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hard cliff
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yeah I swapped to vaal reap ignite when I was rolling one and saw how long the damage was gonna take

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Much better choice

shrewd rock
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I have an idea

onyx adder
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Yea just dont ever make the mistake of doing a map with shrapnel ballista

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Holy

shrewd rock
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you can try playing ballista the way GGG originally intended

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by design

cobalt blade
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yeah its a pure bosser

spice pecan
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is shrapnel ballista the str one or the dex one?

hard cliff
spice pecan
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i can never remember which is which

shrewd rock
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you use a 6L bow skill to clear, and then you use a 6L ballista for rares/bosses to supplement yeah

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it's not good

normal hedge
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shrapnel = str stacker

cobalt blade
hard cliff
shrewd rock
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but that's the original design intent iirc

cobalt blade
normal hedge
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siege = dex

shrewd rock
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and it might be fun

onyx adder
shrewd rock
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to play

cobalt blade
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but ye those see play sometimes

spice pecan
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siege ballista is the dex one ye

cobalt blade
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scuffed bosser setups

onyx adder
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Its okay

shrewd rock
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oh really?

wintry lily
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yes

onyx adder
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Bow bossing is not like

shrewd rock
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nice

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GGG's design has come to fruition

onyx adder
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Actually fun or anything

wintry lily
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ive seen some people do it with ts, its not that good on that department tho.

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granted, neither is ts

shrewd rock
spice pecan
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well TS is pretty deadge

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yeah

onyx adder
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But u need to do that otherwise ur map bossing on those skills is basically pathetic flailing

normal hedge
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if u're using ts you already have enough single target

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well, you should

wintry lily
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meh i'd rather just use scourge arrow

onyx adder
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TS is the most popular bow skill this league

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Fyi

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I looked yesterday

normal hedge
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and it always gonna be

onyx adder
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Its fuckin shit

normal hedge
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its fine?

wintry lily
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it do be one of the more iconic bow skills

normal hedge
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lol

wintry lily
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Define "fine"

normal hedge
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just cant swap to it super early like you could before.

wintry lily
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as in, how many divs for it to feel fine

onyx adder
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For a build with as many holes in it as TS not being able to play it early is fuckin shit

spice pecan
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how do you filter on poeninja to NOT include weapon swaps

normal hedge
wintry lily
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So, not fine is what im hearing.

cobalt blade
spice pecan
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i went to search for rare bow and ofc it includes everyone who has a bow on wep swap

normal hedge
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lol

shrewd rock
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meh

wintry lily
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well yeah, if i have to invest that much into a skill to feel fine, the skill itself is not fine.

shrewd rock
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are any of the new wand stuff

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fun

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at least

wintry lily
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I wont tell people to not enjoy it

normal hedge
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yeah no wonder different skills arent league starter viable

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🤯 🤯 🤯

cobalt blade
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you could go here and start excluding everything that isnt a bow but theyn you filter out people with wands in offhand

wintry lily
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but I personally think its a bit too much to call it "fine"

cobalt blade
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or yknow claws w/e

onyx adder
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eg spark

cobalt blade
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if you make spark work its the best skill you can play imo

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but its level of proj speed/duration required is so high to feel good lol

onyx adder
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If u invest a lot and what u get is 3.27 TS then u just spend all ur time wishing u were smart enough to click KB instead

normal hedge
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many skills need investment to feel playable, and thats fine

wintry lily
normal hedge
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regular kb doenst have more dps than TS, its just slightly more tanky.

onyx adder
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Yea look i mean KB isnt strictly better

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The single target is worse

spice pecan
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kb takes way less to at least make playable

onyx adder
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But ur clear is miles better

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And its cheaper

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KB clear is actually cheating in any kind of dense map

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One of the few skills where map clear time scales down with more packsize even without explodies

cobalt blade
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nah its map clear time is just identical regardless of packsize assuming exact same mechanics otherwise

normal hedge
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for example ure comparing a leaguestater viable skill vs one that isnt

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if you wanna be fair you would compare it to ele hit lol

onyx adder
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And kb versus fat rare on its own is sad

cobalt blade
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you dont scale your kb to 1 tap rares?

normal hedge
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also kb has the bugged graft rn so

onyx adder
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Kb versus rare with pack gets hit 200 times and evaporates

onyx adder
cobalt blade
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skill issue i guess

onyx adder
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Ppl scale kboc to do that

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Not regular kb

normal hedge
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nah

cobalt blade
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just HH or playing int stack KB both do it

normal hedge
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hh and multimod wand is more than enough

onyx adder
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Nobody plays int stack kb

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Its all kboc

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For obvious reasons

cobalt blade
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i mean

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your just wrong

onyx adder
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Im lookin at ninja

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If ppl are doing it theyre not here

normal hedge
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683 deadeye with 1k+ int

cobalt blade
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they absolutely are wtf do you mean

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theres even a mirror wand

normal hedge
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vs 830 hieros with 1k+ int

cobalt blade
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alot of the people playing fubguns build swapped to int stack to do blight

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since its marginally better

pliant hamlet
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ScuffThink They're buffing essentia sanguise again?

onyx adder
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Fair enough, its like 5-10% of the ppl playing kb are doing it intstack

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I concede the point

pliant hamlet
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Is 100 flat lightning going to make anyone build around this thing

normal hedge
pliant hamlet
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am I missing something?

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oh 250 flat es is nice ig

onyx adder
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The zdps hh kb is much more popular

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Which is what u expect

cobalt blade
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yeah its also 100x cheaper lmao

onyx adder
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Ofc

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Since we're talking about how shit TS is at low gear

cobalt blade
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but ye HH or int stack both just 1 tap rares and has identical clear speed regardless of pack size

onyx adder
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One would presume that is also the context here

cobalt blade
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i mean you shouldnt be playing kb at low budget ele hit just destroys it

normal hedge
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the fastest you can play ts its prolly catarina's quiver but its not better than elehit/kb so not even worth to bother with

pliant hamlet
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I don't understand these buffs. They don't seem nearly enough to push these items

cobalt blade
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bino's one is big

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lotta extra clear

finite quail
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pob bugging tf out

cobalt blade
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sanguis i personally like but it admitedly could be better

sage falcon
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it's really tricky to buff attack weapons

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i commend them for trying

onyx adder
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Which was the conversation

pliant hamlet
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...is it? What's the current range?

normal hedge
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1,5m

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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oh doubling the range is nice

cobalt blade
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oh you meant binos range

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ye doubled lol

pliant hamlet
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Idk I think if they wanted to push it they should have made it like 5m+

cobalt blade
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you do know how big 3m is right

normal hedge
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idk people who play mamba only farm in toxic sewers anyways

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or blight

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xdd

sage falcon
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technically more than double because of how area works

onyx adder
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Eh what buffs

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Did we get something

normal hedge
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its 300%

pliant hamlet
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Binos and essentia are being reworked again

wintry lily
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bino and essentia

onyx adder
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Oh

dim gyro
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i wonder if this means that they're gonna put number ranges on everything instead of "nearby"

cobalt blade
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like thats just a whole pack

wintry lily
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its not particularly worth discussing over, bino is just better

crisp plinth
wintry lily
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essentia is essentia

onyx adder
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Binos is really good with that radius

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Wtf

crisp plinth
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Just make actual t0 stuff good enough to be that rare

normal hedge
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essentia still a dust unique

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pliant hamlet
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I actually wonder, has essentia been tested?

wintry lily
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I mean, no matter how you buff binos

finite quail
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honestly kinda mid teaser, just a couple buffed t0s

wintry lily
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I will still click pathfinder

lucid gale
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I love that my kneejerk explanation to anyone wondering how far a range is in PoE, I answer "a metre is ten units".

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Very helpful for anyone who hasn't played PoE1 since the dark ages.

pliant hamlet
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I play every league and I still think in units

wintry lily
pliant hamlet
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meters is so weird

cobalt blade
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people just dont really realise how good base area is tbh

lucid gale
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Nearbyn't.

normal hedge
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On the cosmological scale, it's all nearby.

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🙂

wintry lily
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from a certain point of view, the person off screen is nearby

final owl
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relative to no teaser it's massive

lucid gale
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Upside of meters is that you've got an actual meaningful reference in your character.

wintry lily
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I do wish one day we will no longer have nearby.

pliant hamlet
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I'm too american to know what a meter is

wintry lily
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I truly do.

normal hedge
pliant hamlet
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i say you should swap it to yards

final owl
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a meter is a little bit less than your arms stretched out horizontally. YMMV.

wintry lily
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I'd take a nothingburger league for no more nearby

lucid gale
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0.9m in a yard

drowsy eagle
normal hedge
pliant hamlet
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lmao

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I like these answers better

sage falcon
cobalt blade
lucid gale
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So just squint and assume yards and you're probably good.

spice pecan
normal hedge
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6'5 is 1,98

wintry lily
pliant hamlet
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I've never understood the point of essentia sanguis, like from a design perspective

spice pecan
# normal hedge 6'5 is 1,98

in my freshman year german class, we had a guy who was 6'5" and described himself in german as being 2 meters tall

lucid gale
loud geyser
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what is it in centimetres?

spice pecan
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which is why i remember it vividly

pliant hamlet
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Anyone playing claws is 1 point from ghost reaver

normal hedge
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hes lying

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2cm shorter

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you should fight him

spice pecan
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he might have been 6'6" idk

onyx adder
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I would use essentia if i dropped it early or if its cheap in trade

spice pecan
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hell no i'm literally a foot shorter

pliant hamlet
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I think it's actually a playable item, I thought it was before

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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I just never got it as a drop

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but

cobalt blade
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with clusters

spice pecan
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i'm a manlet short king

pliant hamlet
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The item just confuses me lol

wintry lily
normal hedge
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which one of them

spice pecan
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the flat lightning on essentia is new right

pliant hamlet
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It's +100

cobalt blade
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it was already there but its higher

spice pecan
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because that's kind of a good chunk of damage

cobalt blade
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1-700 before

normal hedge
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1 ~ 700 -> 1 ~ 800

cobalt blade
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actually quite a big buff if your willing to tempering orb it

pliant hamlet
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I think it's playable right now pre-patch, but ephemeral edge exists

cobalt blade
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feel like it makes it kinda viable

normal hedge
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idk it has 1,7 AS

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rare claw is just better

pliant hamlet
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Rare claw is also tri ele, this isn't

normal hedge
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i mean you can do multi links, tri ele, 1 ele + pen + hits cannot be evaded etc

cobalt blade
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ofc this is excluding synth

pliant hamlet
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Yeah, I get what you mean.

onyx adder
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Its fine early before u can craft a decent claw and the survivability boost is nonzero

cobalt blade
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yeah

normal hedge
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it cant be fine early its a t0

pliant hamlet
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It's hard to imagine playing a claw build and going ES for me

normal hedge
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should be the other way around

cobalt blade
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like if your int claw stacking you will eventually just grab hotm /howa at some point or do an influ claw

pliant hamlet
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I don't think there's any chance that shits surviving hte patch

cobalt blade
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even excluding acc stacking

pliant hamlet
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There's no way they're okay with the int/acc stacking

normal hedge
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maybe essentia + ee if u're playing DS of Ambidexterity but i dont think its any good

pliant hamlet
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I've played for too long to assume that hotm/howa will even be remotely close to playable post-patch

cobalt blade
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like im just saying int claw stacking for the flat

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since yknow es build=int stack

pliant hamlet
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I half expect it's going to not give % int, not give %dex, give 1-6 damage per 25 int, etc.

cobalt blade
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so essentia sanguis is effectively competing with the flat you can get from this and this does beat it at some point

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nah no shot they nerf base howa lmao

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theyll just remove acc per int from foulborn

spice pecan
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oh shit guys, the dark souls 2 event starts on friday, i'm about to be a Bad Red Man

normal hedge
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2k int its 200 ~ 2400 flat

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idk

pliant hamlet
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You have more optimism than me

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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Is there no synth int mod?

onyx adder
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Ye i mean surely nobody is suggesting u use this claw after like

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Day 5 or something right

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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Yeah then i expect it to go to 1-6/10 at best

crisp plinth
cobalt blade
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maybe day 3

onyx adder
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Its purely just there as an early game plug for damage

normal hedge
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it should be better than howa, just because its a t0

cobalt blade
crisp plinth
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An endgame plug for damage shouldn't be t0

pliant hamlet
cobalt blade
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it maybe goes back to 10 but 10 is still fine

pliant hamlet
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I'd build around it if I ever got one

normal hedge
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uhm its double leech rate per instance

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not a big deal tbh

cobalt blade
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so theres 2 different "double leech" mods

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the one on sanguis is the bad one

normal hedge
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yeah

cobalt blade
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the good one is whats on ghost reaver maximum total recovery

pliant hamlet
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I'm more interested in the leech not removed at full es

normal hedge
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sure but you can already do that

cobalt blade
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you can force that with ghost dance stuff

normal hedge
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with ghost dance

spice pecan
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just dropped trap support in roofless, time to play wintertide brand traps? chaosthinking

cobalt blade
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10050 energy shield > 10000 evasion

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you now have overleech

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yipee

slim island
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now which t0 unique is gonna be the #1 disenchant fodder

cobalt blade
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probably bloodseeker

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if its not changed

onyx adder
cobalt blade
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yeah i dont personally bother with it

pliant hamlet
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the fact that bloodseeker never found a home blows my mind

cobalt blade
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idont think its necesary for 99% of content

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just bigass hit pool is fine

warm musk
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Hoping they wont remove kingsmarch so people will buy my unid entropic for 80-100+c

onyx adder
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Overleech is a strong stat fwiw

pliant hamlet
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Life Leech from Hits with this Weapon is instant This is one of the most powerful effects we've ever had

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the fact that bloodseeker sees zero play is crazy to me

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Especially against things like dots that tend to troll these int stackers when theres no mobs around

cobalt blade
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since losing your actual recovery over time is so ass

pliant hamlet
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maybe, I think it's more about bloodseeker doesn't have enough damage

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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7% crit in this day and age on a 350 pdps claw

cobalt blade
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basically no chance you die to a dot before reaching a mob at that point

pliant hamlet
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it's just not enough

cobalt blade
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around the 10k es mark overleech feels real good though

normal hedge
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even at 10k

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lol

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naca

cobalt blade
crisp plinth
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Before some used it to get the leech now you click 1 wheel and got good enough instant gain

normal hedge
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i only did ghost dance overleech in phrecia 1.0 to farm rogue exiles

pliant hamlet
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Yeah, that's fair. insta leech node was a mistake lol

normal hedge
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in regular poe you dont have to worry about that

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especially nowadays 🥀

finite quail
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Yall can anyone chip in and tell me if there's any other skills I can use for something? I have like 6 sockets open and I'm racking my brain trying to think what else I can use but I can't remember what https://pobb.in/cJSrXRpsKSB_

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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So this past league i played olroth ward with a zillion hits per second, which is analogous to bloodseeker

onyx adder
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It felt bad when no mobs were hittable

cobalt blade
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you could do a vaal haste

onyx adder
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I dont really rate these infinite-recovery-as-long-as-im-hitting-stuff setups theyre nice in some content

cobalt blade
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ah fair

finite quail
onyx adder
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But def not all

finite quail
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Oh nvm that would be fine

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I could do both

cobalt blade
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vaal smite uses fuck all souls iirc

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so it should be fine

pliant hamlet
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huh, I forgot they reverted vaal pact to its old version

cobalt blade
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you could enhance your assasins mark mark on hit

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and empower your vaal smite

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just shuffle around sockets

finite quail
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empower would be 2.5% dps so kinda meh

cobalt blade
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enlighten your stuff here if it lets you fit in something i guess or drop reserve

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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Could enhance blood rage

cobalt blade
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this is getting into dregs but you can link leap slam to momentum to make it faster Pogott

finite quail
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Since it resets with every skill use

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That'd be more for levelling probably

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Hmmmmmm....

cobalt blade
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yeah but its still smth if you cant find any other use lol

finite quail
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Hmmmmge....

cobalt blade
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blood rage enhance is free atk speed too i guess

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but probably also mid

pliant hamlet
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could use some cwdt thing

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vortex bonechill still works doesn't it?

normal hedge
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you mean cold snap?

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(less aoe, 5s duration instead of 3)

pliant hamlet
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I couldn't remember why flicker used vortex, it's instant cold snap wasn't

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yeah cold snap would be better here

finite quail
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That's better

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And it'd be even more dps if I got unbound fury ff

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and dropped barkskin

normal hedge
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have you tested hits cannot be evaded + crit multi and remove accuracy from tree?

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and accuracy from gloves

finite quail
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I have not tested that, no

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Forgot that even existed

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But its a prefix though

normal hedge
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yes you remove one of the flats

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idk if its going to be better, just an idea

finite quail
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Hmmmmmge

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Lemme see

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Its only a 10% dps loss if I remove the cold roll and replace acc with crit multi on the foil

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Lemme check

normal hedge
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ehh if you remove the accuracy wheel the best thing you can grab is primeval force and it would be about the same

cobalt blade
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enables going for abyss jewel on glove as well

normal hedge
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but the hits cant be evaded sword is slightly easier to craft

cobalt blade
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over the a cc

slim island
final owl
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I mean we aint gettin patch notes tomorrow :I

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Or at least, that isn't what has been promised

finite quail
normal hedge
finite quail
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Checking a couple more things and I should maybe get to 14.5m

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wtf since when do the timeless jewel borders move around in pob

cobalt blade
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recent update u can toggle it off in settings iirc

coral summit
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we are getting patch notes tmrw

surreal musk
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why are u using a replica heatshiver thats giving u 4.5% more dmg

coral summit
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we always get patch notes after the reveal stream and q&a

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they aren't the final version though cuz they always update them with new balance changes and such from looking at community discussion

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(they see if ppl brainstorm something incredibly broken that they missed)

finite quail
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I wonder if paradoxica might be more dps...

onyx adder
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Still hoping we get patch notes after stream so i dont have to listen to ziggy lob softball questions for an hour

finite quail
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I put it on at the start of the pob, havent looked at replacements yet

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But its to be reviewed since I know it can be better

cobalt blade
coral summit
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paradoxica is always decent damage but it is very very reliant on having a lot of flat damage elsewhere.

cobalt blade
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like an ice bite setup or smth

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(which prollynot worth the investment)

finite quail
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I have the PERFECT IDEA

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REPLICA ABYSSUS

coral summit
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or paradoxica on something like ele hit avatar of fire

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no

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do not play that LOL

cobalt blade
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horror

finite quail
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LMAO

coral summit
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I can say from experience

finite quail
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Instant pain

normal hedge
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i would never play paradoxica

coral summit
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replica abyssus is just a death printer

finite quail
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dw its a joke I'd never run abyssus ever again

coral summit
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THERE IS ONE WAY to play it though

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and that's flawed refuge shield with bound by destiny and divine flesh.

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this does not solve you taking 40% increased dot on top of still needing resists for dots though

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but it's just incredibly dumb and never worth trying to pob lmao

normal hedge
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lambie i know you didnt asked but i personally think agressive bastion isnt worth it for 6 points, its only giving you 10% block

onyx adder
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Regular abyssus on the other hand is often more useable than ppl think it is

coral summit
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i mean, as long as you actually have good armour/end charges

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it's pretty good

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but you definitely need to respect certain boss fights more with it

onyx adder
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Really the best way is to just not take physical damage

coral summit
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I meeeean, yeah

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but it's also really hard to convert very large amounts of phys taken to ele nowadays

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unless you're doing like, scavenger cloak of flame+lightning coil to immediately get 80%

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(the problem is you're running lightning coil there which has aggressively bad stats other than that one line)

cobalt blade
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but if you can solve the ailment avoid id personally take as the mountain instead

normal hedge
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yeah but you can replace cannibal to another mana mastery on ranger area

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something of battle

surreal musk
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isnt this pob overcapped on block by a shitton

coral summit
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honestly i like the spot unique chests are in in poe for the most part

cobalt blade
coral summit
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they dont have as garbage base stats as they do in poe2

surreal musk
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o

coral summit
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and most of the good ones actually do something worth using over a rare

loud geyser
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interested to see opinions on the dagger?

cobalt blade
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think id drop that mastery though -1% block is fine

normal hedge
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essentia bad, binos is niche

coral summit
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the base damage on bino's is still kinda unimpressive but the radius on poison prolif is insane

cobalt blade
coral summit
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4x more area covered per prolif

neon steppe
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@karmic gust have to tag my poison homie over the 3 meter poison prolif

cobalt blade
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personally do like essentia sanguis but i know its prolly mid

loud geyser
normal hedge
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uhm

loud geyser
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nvm wait eblade overlaps the wep ur using

coral summit
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i think essentia means they're nerfing ghost reaver

cobalt blade
normal hedge
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do you know how energy blade works

loud geyser
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scratch that

coral summit
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by the wording

normal hedge
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xdd

coral summit
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probably making ghost reaver no longer double your leech thing

normal hedge
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essentia is also super niche

cobalt blade
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yeah its just a fun unique

loud geyser
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to be fair what isnt niche

coral summit
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ES overleech and very good stats other than the base damage on it is pretty strong

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cuz flat damage is always solvable

cobalt blade
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i mean the base damage is good if you get lucky lightning

loud geyser
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yeah but

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lucky hit graft is removed :(

cobalt blade
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so like if it still exists foulborn blue dream

loud geyser
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im so sad that its going away but also kinda happy i dont have to play around repositioning on a fucking electric donut every 10 seconds

coral summit
#

but yeah, +200 es on a weapon is pretty big

cobalt blade
coral summit
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especially if they do what i think they're gonna do

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which is nerf es bases

cobalt blade
#

also exists on the nightmare version

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not too hard to block cap if you go claw/shield

loud geyser
cobalt blade
#

yes

coral summit
#

yep

loud geyser
#

everytime i find that theres a jewel i haven't seen

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jfc

coral summit
#

mods like that exist for cold/fire damage as well on the red/green jewels, but they are much less useful unless you're doing something niche

loud geyser
#

feels like i looked over them 10000 times

coral summit
#

like running a weapon base with a naturally large damage range

loud geyser
#

and still i get surprised by a new one (i havent seen)

coral summit
#

this for instance with red dream lucky fire dmg on attack block

#

is pretty good

#

if you just make it a huge phys stick and convert/gain phys as extra fire

finite quail
#
#

Aight, leaving it there

coral summit
#

the obvious problem is that it isn't an eventuality rod so most warstaff players will not use any other base

cobalt blade
finite quail
#

Not too shabby but would require investment and static strike isnt the best

spice pecan
cobalt blade
#

not as good as lightning but still decent

coral summit
#

arent fire per str weapons like 3-5 range or smth

finite quail
#

ss warden pob?

spice pecan
#

i've also kind of heard that static strike really wants big slow weapons and there isnt much better than marohi erqi

coral summit
#

or 2-4

cobalt blade
finite quail
#

No I just cooked it rn

#

looking at wiki and stuff

spice pecan
# finite quail ss warden pob?

Hey guys, Goratha here, just wanted to keep you guys updated on my plans for the event that's happening soon.

This will be my attempt at making a HC SSF warden build work. Static Strike + Max block should be tanky enough, and with the tech in this video should do enough damage, in theory at least!

As always you can follow along at https://www....

▶ Play video
cobalt blade
#

which means its still an above average jewel socket

coral summit
#

anyways

#

time to do last sleep before stream

finite quail
split maple
#

And you slap on volatility too

coral summit
#

i will see you all tomorrow when chat is running at mach ten

spice pecan
#

ah

cobalt blade
#

ill prolly hide from herewhen that happens kek

split maple
#

But like for lightning we can pretend it's 3.25 again and take lucky ammy

#

And cope on not going crit

#

Cope a lot

hard cliff
#

GGG should add tariffs you can impose on other players to siphon gold but they can nullify them by killing you by invading your hideout

finite quail
#

So that's a no go

#

Oh, wait

finite quail
#

I could maybe ff one of the other nodes

#

experienced herbalist is 10c

spice pecan
#

as long as the travel node doesnt matter

cobalt blade
#

FF focal point Pogott

normal hedge
#

ff/ff master distiller

cobalt blade
#

theres actually an extremely niche use case for master distiller lol

#

charges from them can still be consumed with the flasks disabled from nameless bloodline

finite quail
#
#

Now that's better

normal hedge
#

yeah i read about that

cobalt blade
#

yknow ive just noticed pobbin doesnt show warden nodes in top right

finite quail
#

oh you're right wtf

plain mason
#

guys i have a doubt

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last league blink arrow nerfed from 25 sec to 5 sec right ?

#

will that gonna reset to 25 sec ? or remains same for next league

split maple
#

Same unless changed again

normal hedge
#

We know the same as you

split maple
#

Skill gem changes are not limited to league

plain mason
#

ok

icy swan
mortal veldt
#

what would they have to do to make bows good again?

onyx adder
#

Ele hit is pretty good tbh

#

Fundamentally bow niche has always been to run fast around maps and blast easyish content very quickly for loot

#

Right now KB is eating its lunch

normal hedge
#

nothing much just buff single target, buff defences, buff every single bow skill like they did to melee in 3.25

onyx adder
#

Personally i think right side defenses are a lot of the issue right now

#

Nobody is playing traps or mines for the same reason

#

Suppress got nerfed so if u want defenses ur probably int stacking or similar

normal hedge
#

if deadeye had a strong defensive layer it would be enough to be popular again

thick goblet
#

yeah right side needs something, even just more life nodes to start with

normal hedge
#

Suppress should be based on evasion so armour builds cannot abuse it

onyx adder
#

I dont like suppress as a mechanic in general tbh

spice pecan
#

i actively detest suppress

surreal musk
#

int stacking and block/recover on block are so much stronger than other defensive options so u need a really good reason to not play a build that doesnt use these

#

imo bows are out of meta because of kb + int stack

spice pecan
#

fuck there's a +1 cold sceptre in the shop in roofless and i can't get an alteration

onyx adder
#

My pitch would be to instead give us enough passive utility flask sustain on tree that with a bunch of other flask nodes u could sustain ele flasks

spice pecan
#

literally crying and shitting rn

finite quail
finite quail
finite quail
#

thats what I want

worldly bridge
finite quail
#

Nerf tinctures but have them apply to any kind of hit damage

worldly bridge
#

is this actually that good

#

like

#

lets be real

icy swan
cobalt blade
finite quail
cobalt blade
#

previous was 1.5

#

regen's w/e

finite quail
#

Supposedly from what wiki says, uncommonly you're considered your own nearby ally

onyx adder
#

3m radius is SO big

finite quail
#

Wait wh

coral crystal
#

big hand

crisp plinth
#

I kinda want to play mines or traps or totems again but they all feel various levels of dead

cobalt blade
#

like thats 3m radius mika

onyx adder
#

Have we ever had a 3m base explody effect

cobalt blade
#

thats absurd prolif range

worldly bridge
#

ok but did i SS that partof the item

#

no

#

i have no problems with that affix

onyx adder
#

Bereks was dumb as shit when it was 25

umbral crag
#

What's pf's prolif range again

cobalt blade
#

1.5

#

iirc

worldly bridge
#

what is the point of 400 regen for allies

cobalt blade
worldly bridge
#

on a poison prolif item

cobalt blade
#

it affects you apparently

#

so you just get 400 regen

worldly bridge
#

🤔

onyx adder
#

12 no?

worldly bridge
#

no shot it affecst you

cobalt blade
#

wiki says it does im too lazy to check

solid laurel
#

Wonder if we'll see big nerfs and buffs, the meta has kinda gone wild with all the "stacking" archetypes

worldly bridge
#

why would they just give an item 400 flat regen

worldly bridge
#

immortal flesh in the corner crying

onyx adder
#

Eh wiki says 15 alright

#

I cbf testing

solid laurel
final owl
#

i don't think the "endgame rework" is going to cover build meta

solid laurel
#

I'm a stacking enthusiast myself but still

#

My builds are still ethical

cobalt blade
normal hedge
#

Cannot wait to play jiquanis again

solid laurel
#

Imagine they make all league currency drop only from their league

#

Stuff like essence and fossils

normal hedge
#

That would fix delve

mortal veldt
#

lmao they would have to delete kingsmarch fr

final owl
#

and nothing of value was lost

blazing spear
#

i wanna leaguestart blood sacra, then transition into blade trap

solid laurel
#

Or just repurpose Kingsmarch

onyx adder
worldly bridge
#

thats my point

#

its

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seemingly random

final owl
#

genuinely think they should just take away the lessons learned from what people liked about settlers and just put them in the game again via a new league mechanic. The year of settlers will never be forgotten

onyx adder
#

The right side life node already gives u a pile of instant recoveryand if u rly want more u can click the mastery

worldly bridge
#

maybe its for tainted pact actually and self poison?

onyx adder
#

Its just buffed

worldly bridge
#

i never saw it before

onyx adder
#

No more random than it was before

cobalt blade
#

was 200 before

worldly bridge
#

well then

icy swan
#

evisirate could regen % hp/mana for dmg it do. i was missing some leaching with it

worldly bridge
#

i would have complained about it before

#

my point stands

onyx adder
#

And the answer would have been that the item is ancient lmao

icy swan
#

and dot should do dmg 2 x faster

onyx adder
#

Same as whoever was asking about the implicit on essentia sanguis

worldly bridge
#

all vaal claws have it

#

its not a unique affix

finite quail
onyx adder
#

Answer is the same

normal hedge
onyx adder
normal hedge
hexed mountain
#

Never use essentia sanguis whats the change?

onyx adder
#

More damage

hexed mountain
#

Also bino is just the 400 flat regen?

finite quail
finite quail
#

from 1.5m to 3m

hexed mountain
#

Aight thats nice

cobalt blade
hexed mountain
#

Someone knows what pf prolif range is?

onyx adder
#

1.5, apparently

#

I thought it was 1.2

hexed mountain
#

Oh damn

onyx adder
#

Wiki says 1.5

#

3 is enormous

normal hedge
#

300% inc

hexed mountain
#

So bino is straight out much better prolif

normal hedge
cobalt blade
#

its ridiculous

onyx adder
#

Bino is very good now

hexed mountain
#

Slayer affliction charge mamba with bino to get hilarious prolifs?

#

Imagine 10m range prolif , thats the entire toxic sewer map in one mamba strike Pogott

onyx adder
#

Its still a shit actual weapon but the mod makes it useable as a weapon swap mapper for pretty much every poison build if thats what u need

finite quail
#

what does slayer have to do with prolifs

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or affliction charges

hexed mountain
#

Aoe

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More frenzies

finite quail
#

thats not what binos does

onyx adder
#

Binos doesnt scale with aoe

hexed mountain
#

Really?

#

Sadge

cobalt blade
#

ya

onyx adder
#

Really

cobalt blade
#

nor does master toxicist

finite quail
#

its nearby enemies are poisoned

onyx adder
#

Same as bereks

hexed mountain
#

There goes the 10m prolif dream

finite quail
#

not that that's really needed

#

with 3m of prolif

#

lmao

#

very very overkill

onyx adder
#

This also lets u vaporize rares early

hexed mountain
#

I mean on 10m you could litteraly clean the entire toxic sewer map in one cast except maybe boss room with the bridge

onyx adder
#

Since the entire pack prolifs to the rare instead of like 1/3 of it

hexed mountain
#

On pf you are already killing 3 rooms when you juice

hexed mountain
#

I need to see how hilarious toxic sewer gets with 3m

finite quail
#

you forget poe doesnt have the entire map active at once

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its only a radius of about 3-4 screens thats active

onyx adder
#

Its probably the same as old bereks

#

U know what gets a lot better with 3m prolifs btw

hexed mountain
onyx adder
#

Like actual infinitely better

finite quail
#

You didn't know that?

proven tundra
#

can someone explain the Vorici Chromatic Calc to me quickly please? https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

if the combination i want tells me that "Vorici 3R" is the cheapest option, how do i do Vorici 3R? is it just selecting "At least 3 red socket" option in the crafting bench over and over again? Thank you

onyx adder
#

Its our other purple buddies

#

Legion

hexed mountain
#

How far from each other are penance bois?

proven tundra
hexed mountain
#

Too far i guess?

finite quail
#

I think?

onyx adder
#

Unless the item is already 6l

#

And sometimes even if it is

finite quail
finite quail
#

3.5m-4.5m

onyx adder
#

Nice try

hexed mountain
#

Shame

#

Would have been a fun swap for pinnacle to dot cap on lower gear

proven tundra
proven tundra
#

pure evasion base

onyx adder
#

How many chromes is it telling u

proven tundra
#

700

finite quail
#

3r would be best yeah

onyx adder
#

Probably better to just chrome it

#

With bench

proven tundra
#

okay thank you

finite quail
#

jeweller trick would get expensive quick

onyx adder
#

Jeweler trick in this case would be if it was like a full blue base

finite quail
#

Since the game really doesn't want to give you the color you need lmao

onyx adder
#

Well jeweler trick here is like 500 jewelers or something

finite quail
#

350

#

per try

hexed mountain
#

Oh didnt see but essentia sanguis also gets a massive 250 ES now

onyx adder
#

U need to get ur 4r first

coral crystal
#

just vaal it and use tainted chrome duh

onyx adder
#

The 350 is almost always a one-off

finite quail
onyx adder
#

Because its ur last colour and its green

finite quail
#

start from a 4 socket, jeweller trick until 4 red, then craft the other two sockets

loud geyser
hexed mountain
#

Looks like an actually good weapon

finite quail
#

Unless the item is 6linked already

celest skiff
#

I remember coloring this sucking

finite quail
#

Aint bad

#

Also 8% base crit

finite quail
cobalt blade
#

the alternative route is bench 3 socket blanching for 3w as your first 3 sockets

#

and then jeweller trick

#

how i do my off colours now^

finite quail
#

Yep

proven tundra
cobalt blade
#

nah its an omen

#

omen of blanching on the exchange

#

its probably cheaper to just jeweller for 4r though

#

only 4 off colours is easy enough

celest skiff
#

harvest used to be able to progressively bleach an whole item couldn't it

finite quail
cobalt blade
#

so its a 6/6*5/6*4/6 etc

#

(tho youd do the first 3 with blanching)

finite quail
#

Chromes cost 3x as much as jewellers do

#

So you'd save a nice bit

proven tundra
#

okay, ill go watch a youtube video on how to do the jeweller trick. im new to all this, thanks for all ur help

cobalt blade
#

you bench to 2 sockets>you do two red sockets bench> 2 to 3 socket bench if its not red you bench 2 socket and repeat

finite quail
#

So if the item you want to color is not 6linked, you start it out with three sockets, craft 3 red colored sockets with the bench, then in the bench, you alternate between the 4 socket and 3 socket crafts until you hit your fourth red socket

cobalt blade
#

same for 3>4 4>5 5>6

finite quail
#

Once you hit the four sockets, you craft 5 and then 6 sockets

onyx adder
#

Are chromes so expensive in trade huh

#

Then yea u should jewelers trick

#

The pain is if u brick on the 6s

cobalt blade
finite quail
#

Ofc, if you hit a color you dont want, you go back to the previous socket craft, and then craft the next one again until you hit your desired color

#

being green in this case

finite quail
cobalt blade
#

for the first 3

finite quail
#

@proven tundra did you get the explanation?

cobalt blade
#

my kinda chest Pogott

normal hedge
#

offcolor slop

final owl
#

I always forget about white sockets and end up faffing about with chromes. dear brain, pls note this down and keep it somewhere useful for next time. thx

cobalt blade
#

offcolours my beloved

proven tundra
# finite quail <@238167094514941962> did you get the explanation?

yes, so right now i should turn it into 3 socket using jewellers, then use chromatics to turn it 3r, then start using jewellers to turn it into 4 socket and hoping the 4th is a r, if not, turn it back to 3 socket and 4 again.

then after 4r, aim for a 5th and 6th g. however, this also means i must have the 5 sockets and 6 socket crafts unlocked right. i dont seem to have the option now.

is my understanding correct?

cobalt blade
#

correct

cobalt blade
#

if you scroll to the bottom it should tell you where to find those socket crafts

finite quail
#

In the crafting bench, at the bottom, you can see the locked crafts

#

If you hover over them, it will tell you in what location you can find those crafts

#

Those two are found in unique maps, if I remember correctly

cobalt blade
#

idt they are

finite quail
#

oh, I was wrong

cobalt blade
#

according to poedb

proven tundra
#

it says Ashen Wood and Channel, im not sure that they are

final owl
#

I tend to just throw the deets into vorici and just start clicking unless the numbers are crazy high. Surely rngesus will bless me.

finite quail
cobalt blade
#

that was last leagues

finite quail
#

Have you finished the acts yet or in the past?

proven tundra
#

i've finished acts

finite quail
finite quail
#

They are on the atlas

proven tundra
#

okay, so i need to find the crafting recipe in those maps

finite quail
#

You might not have them yet, so if you want to do this, you will need to complete those maps first

#

If you're playing on trade, you can buy those maps pretty easily

proven tundra
#

the tiers do not matter, right

finite quail
#

Nope

cobalt blade
#

ye tier doesnt matter

finite quail
#

Any tier is fine

cobalt blade
#

just run the t8 and t11? base versions i think

proven tundra
#

ah okay. thank you both!! @cobalt blade and @finite quail. it does seem like the 5th and 6th socket jewelling trick is going to get expensive quick. but could be cheaper than 700 chromatics. the exchange is selling them at 2:1 chaos right now

#

thanks again

finite quail
#

No problem

cobalt blade
#

should def be cheaper for 4 off colour

proven tundra
#

haha and @onyx adder too! thanks all, u've all been a great help. i'm gonna try and get the crafting recipe first..!

onyx adder
#

The other thing we gotta ask given where u are is are u sure this chest is worth coloring and linking

#

Cos half the time we teach ppl this shit and they sink 300c into a 3c chest

cobalt blade
#

yknwo its so late in the league that didnt even come to mind kek

royal stump
#

@fossil mural yeeey i fixed ma problem , i was wondering to ask you how good you are at window 11 becouse , UHM what i usually do at the beggining of every league and mid league, i clean my pc from dust i tent to do this every 2 months. Now what happens was , i also refresh my window and reset it to the factory data, then what happens is i had all the last drivers installed , all juice updated etc everything. i was having lags and shutterings like crazy but i did not realised whgat could it cause it, now i found out that thre are two fans in gpuc corner , one under gpu another on top of it for the mb. Under gpu fan was a cable that is not connected to anything, is an extra cable for other tasks that doesnt have to be used . Now i found out that that cable was stuck in gpu fan and that couses shatterings, so removed slighty the cable and problem fixed. That was why i tried to reach out with you 😄

spice pecan
#

get down

onyx adder
cobalt blade
#

holy english

royal stump
royal stump
cobalt blade
#

yeah i figured :p

final owl
#

if you aren't good at computer why would you format back to baseline. every 2 months. that is wild

cobalt blade
#

will say its not a bad idea to do that every year or 2

royal stump
#

i mean at general knowledge

onyx adder
royal stump
#

now i enjoy 150 fps in ma hideout 😄

final owl
spice pecan
proven tundra
#

in the market tab in the game, the specific socket setup cost around 5-10 divine orbs, so i figured to craft it myself instead on a cheaper base i spent much much less chaos orbs on it though. not sure if it's the right move still

onyx adder
royal stump
#

cheeky bastard

potent bramble
#

Meanwhile I'm over here... I don't think I've powercycled my rig in probably 3 months

onyx adder
#

Some things can only be resolved by bleach

royal stump
potent bramble
#

Wait no! I went to Florida a little bit before Christmas, and I shut the rig down for that trip

cobalt blade
#

5-10div for 6 link with those colours or 6 socket with those colours

spice pecan
final owl
#

the cable stuck in fan thing happens. usually you notice quickly enough because your temps are silly..

proven tundra
royal stump
cobalt blade
#

probably would be cheaper to buy pre linked and im gonna take a wild guess at diallas?

royal stump
#

with in my scenario was that funny cable

onyx adder
#

Cant be diallas its a dex base

cobalt blade
#

oh true hm

spice pecan
#

trying to decide between chaos golem or BV

royal stump
#

❤️

spice pecan
#

i'll take bv in a5 or something maybe, need to drop unleash support for it to be playable anyway

final owl
proven tundra
cobalt blade
#

huh

#

lithe is not that expensive

royal stump
# final owl well it does depend what fan is being stopped from spinning. but fair

ye becouse probebly when i hoovered ma pc inside i moved slightly some cables under the gpu all over the place , and it took me 10hours of ma nervous sistem to be fked to realise that the simple fix was to - just push the cables down under the fan cooler so it ownt affect his working speed UHM i almost feel embarrased coz of ma stupidity sometimes

final owl
#

yeah 10d would be with a useful corrupted implicit or something

royal stump
#

🫣

final owl
#

a 6L bronns is usually what.. a couple D maybe?

final owl
proven tundra
#

tbh i have no idea- i just used the search and filter function, 4r2g lithe and the cheapest one shows 5d

cobalt blade
#

heres a 3w2g1r pre linked for 2

cobalt blade
#

and go thru all the possible permutations

proven tundra
#

Ah, that's really smart..! i never thought to use white too hahaha

cobalt blade
#

yaaa

#

thats gonna be cheaper than doing it yourself ontop of linking

#

(note you may wanna check the other permutations too im too lazy to do all of em)

potent bramble
#

I do wish the site automatically considered white sockets when you search for color combos

#

Or at least had a toggle for it

royal stump
cobalt blade
#

because of triads grip+diallas

hexed mountain
#

Do the forbidden tec

royal stump
#

😂 UHM

proven tundra
# cobalt blade

how do i search for that? did u just go through trial and error permutations?

cobalt blade
#

ya

hexed mountain
#

Alva a 6 socket cutthroat garb

#

To get 6 whites

cobalt blade
#

3r2g1w 2r2g2w etc etc

hexed mountain
#

Then chance it up with the tainted one

onyx adder
#

See

cobalt blade
#

its a bit tedious but not too bad

final owl
#

a crazy amount of power in PoE comes from being willing to wade through tedious stuff.

onyx adder
#

Always ask if its actually worth linking

royal stump
potent bramble
cobalt blade
royal stump
final owl
cobalt blade
onyx adder
#

I stg ppl are always like i must 6l this zero value chest and na dude just buy it

royal stump
brazen vector
cobalt blade
#

hiii alesia :3

finite quail
#

Hello alesia

final owl
#

yeah the cost is only to your sanity and we all have too much of that in 2026 amirite

royal stump
#

😄

#

gigidy

cobalt blade
#

wut

finite quail
#

what

royal stump
#

sorry 😄

#

never mind 😄

cobalt blade
#

isee

proven tundra
# onyx adder Always ask if its actually worth linking

im hesitating on the crafting part because 6 jewellers : 1 chaos on the exchange now probably i cant afford. does this ratio seem right or am i doing something wrong. i remember just last week it was around 20-30:1

#

it might be cheaper to buy it with 2D

cobalt blade
#

sounds right for deadleague and it is cheaper

brazen vector
#

@cobalt blade @finite quail Heya Glorpilove

cobalt blade
#

its like 1-2d just to link

#

lol

royal stump
#

someone help me clean this trash out 😄

onyx adder
final owl
#

whatever 1500 fusings cost. or i guess beast can be cheaper sometimes

cobalt blade
#

its cheaper to morrigan or omen link in trade

onyx adder
#

Are omens so cheap in 2026

brazen vector
onyx adder
#

6l omen doesnt exist in ssf

cobalt blade
#

1500 fuses are more expensive since people gamble linking kek kek

onyx adder
#

U make like 10 6ls first

potent bramble
#

Actually I'm on mobile right now, but can someone who's not gonna have a horrible time check and see if searching for a socket color requirement of 0 will exclude a color?

onyx adder
#

Then u hit 6l omen and ur like why does this exist

cobalt blade
#

and morrigan is 250c

royal stump
#

i farmed a few of it this league

crisp obsidian
#

Omg binos is so good now wtf

potent bramble
#

'Cause if you wanted a 4r/2g chest plate you could search for 0b/2g and then 0b/1g and save several rounds of editing and re-searching

crisp obsidian
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Gona be like 50d item

finite quail
cobalt blade
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did not know it does that is funky

onyx adder
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Its just a good item now

potent bramble
cobalt blade
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time to do str stack binos for good flat Pogott

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just ignore that hit based is objectively better

vapid junco
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is it possible to play flicker as soon finishing campaign with terminus est?

cobalt blade
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but yeah it does make some searches easier

finite quail
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SUre

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It'll be kinda painful though

vapid junco
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saw magefist did it but not sure if missed anything 🤔

finite quail
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He does it most leagues

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Its definitely doable

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But you need to have a high tolerance for it

crisp obsidian
finite quail
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As in, a high tolerance to builds feeling clunky as shit

vapid junco
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what makes it clunky? not enough crit to generate charges?

next pawn
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holy hammer looks sickk

cobalt blade
# finite quail But you need to have a high tolerance for it

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Low_Tolerance just play it with low tolerance poison flicker

Low Tolerance is a notable passive skill.
This passive skill can only appear when placing cluster jewels into the player character's skill tree.
The mod can only appear in a Medium Cluster JewelMedium Cluster JewelPlace into an allocated Medium or Large Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Added passives do not interact with jewel radiuses. R...

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ez fix smh my head

finite quail
cobalt blade
finite quail
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Its a lot of things

cobalt blade
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so your damage is just ass compared to playing any other skill and a good weapon

finite quail
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I hated it

cobalt blade
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:333

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but it fixes tolerance!

vapid junco
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aahh i c i c

cobalt blade
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low instead of high

proven tundra