1┃general

[earnest raven]

I agree kboc needs a buff

[neon veldt]

best case scenario they only nerf it by 30%

[stuck phoenix]

Well, we also have glorious madness

[neon veldt]

yea, but that shit is annoying to deal with

you have to get at least 250% buff expire faster to even be playable

[junior otter]

What's the prediction behind harby orbs being removed

And horizon orbs

[neon veldt]

some ppl say its in another tab

others say the tier system is being reworked entirely

[junior otter]

don't really see what tab it could possibly be

Doesn't make sense to be in fragment

[civic charm]

So how much currency should i put into my league starter until i transition out of it?

[neon veldt]

like, in the currency tab, eldrich currency is kinda sepperated, so it could have another one for map currency

[civic charm]

Should i use my league starter until i farm a MB?

[junior otter]

Completely dependent on many factors

[true tusk]

anyone here want my essences in exchange for some chaos orbs brothers

[neon veldt]

you in keepers league?

[true tusk]

yes brother

[neon veldt]

if my phercia character got transfered i may just give you a few divs, i dont really care about standard

[true tusk]

how do i send u my name brother?

[true tusk]

dm?

[neon veldt]

sure

[junior otter]

I hope it's a big atlas rework

[sand glen]

feels a little early for an atlas rework isnt it

[junior otter]

Early in what way

[hard cliff]

Hello Cankosilo

haven't seen you in awhile

[sand glen]

didnt we just swap to a new atlas in merc league

[junior otter]

No

[normal hedge]

no?

lol

[earnest raven]

Yes

[hard cliff]

What about a mechanic that lets you find a mini pre made atlass tree

Like you can find a crop rotation 12 skill point setup that tattos onto your new fresh atlas

[sand glen]

secrets was the atlas change

[hard cliff]

you gotta rebuild your atlas points

[junior otter]

I got bored of keepers and druid so

[hard cliff]

New skill tree ?

No, now you make the skill tree

[icy zinc]

so league startable icant

[junior otter]

Secrets of the atlas was pretty underwhelming as far as endgame expansions go

[icy zinc]

just let me spawn on the coast fr

[sand glen]

regardless of underwhelming it still happened

[junior otter]

Yeah but it's obviously incomplete

[sand glen]

to think another atlas rework would happen after only 2 leagues is nuts

[junior otter]

The whole burning the atlas thing is just a visual change

I think it's pretty obvious more is planned for that

[normal hedge]

why you keep calling rework when they havent reworked it

[hard cliff]

Felt very under cooked

And takes too long

The lore and stuff was cool tho I guess

good cinematics

the boss fights were also cool

[junior otter]

Yeah people like t16.5 maps but I don't really think anybody likes the memory tears or bosses

[hard cliff]

The boss fights are fun the long trek to get to one isn't

[true tusk]

anyone wanna take my essences in exchange for chaos orbs brothers

[neon veldt]

yup yup, totally achievable on day2 yep yep

[hard cliff]

faustus

[junior otter]

Idk the bosses are like pretty mid imo

They're fine I guess

I do hope they fix feared though

And also fix their invitation so it's not pure ball crushing agony to witness them all

[icy zinc]

day2.1

surely -100% light res ring appear

[normal hedge]

negative lightning res ring is easy to craft

[junior otter]

Not that one xd

[neon veldt]

yup, from random reflecting mirror encounter

[true tusk]

no market ratio brother

[normal hedge]

yeah thats not a ring

[icy zinc]

yeah thats not ring

[hard cliff]

;_;

[earnest raven]

Sexy

[icy zinc]

not ring shaped either

[true tusk]

would u take my essecnce for chaos orbs or u cant ?

[earnest raven]

Kira made a cool ring

[hard cliff]

I quit the league sorry

[true tusk]

alright take care then

[hard cliff]

You got this tho

LOCK IN

[earnest raven]

@opaque sphinx kewl ring

[true tusk]

i wanna empty my self some space

[true tusk]

so i wanna sell them for even cheap so i dont lose them

my stash is full i cant store more

[warm musk]

Given I have research this sem how realistic it is to run 1000 The Feared rotas?

[normal hedge]

takes around 10 min each rota

[slow sonnet]

God damn that's nice

[normal hedge]

so 170 hours

not that bad

[earnest raven]

Kira made it. Lucky bum

[warm musk]

ty I guess I'll just do it on 3.29 instead

[cobalt blade]

2-3 minutes for sirus 2 for dread bout 2:30 for UE and like a minute for cortex

[final forge]

Above time (02:30 GMT) in your local time · Feb 26, 2026, 2:30 AM

[cobalt blade]

assuming minimal downtime

and then loadscreens+killing the actual feared is like a minute as well

(mostly loadscreens)

[normal hedge]

actual feared is less than a minute

[cobalt blade]

You need to roll it

which i count as part of its time

alch exalt vaal

[normal hedge]

yeah takes like 5 seconds to roll

[finite quail]

that lightning damage to attacks against you makes act 1 mobs kill you in like 3 hits

[cobalt blade]

Yeah

[finite quail]

[warm musk]

I'm kind of a slow league starter so I need a few weeks to build up the currency to have a build to run those

[neon veldt]

doesnt doriyani cancel that out?

[warm musk]

pls give us merc esque borrowed powers GGG

[normal hedge]

with bad loadins and uberdotcap build i was farming it in 10 minutes so if you have a better pc i can see 9 ish minutes

[hard cliff]

You can upgrade them

[slow sonnet]

No cause you still need the conversion

[warm musk]

I'll take note but I am unfamiliar with dot builds

[normal hedge]

its was just a example

[finite quail]

Yes and no

[normal hedge]

you dont need to play dot builds to farm it

[finite quail]

Doryanis makes it so your lightning resistance doesnt afffect the lightning damage you take

[cobalt blade]

i could do them in about 8 witha bad pc/loadscreens but it was few hundred mil raw dps build over dotcap

[finite quail]

So you're basically at 0% lightning resistance

[warm musk]

Was thinking of going w my venting character this league

[normal hedge]

you actually would make it faster with a hit based build

[cobalt blade]

and largest variance was UUE if shaper managed to do ball phase

that added about 5-10 seconds per one

[neon veldt]

but if you have like 100k+ armour it should be fine?

[slow sonnet]

Ahhhhh so no wonder builds get away with 85-90% lightning as fire

[icy zinc]

shesh

[slow sonnet]

Here I thought I was poor

[finite quail]

Since when does armour apply to lightning damage?

[cobalt blade]

armour doesnt apply to dots

[cobalt blade]

doryanis

[finite quail]

Oh

[normal hedge]

since they made doryanis

[finite quail]

That's right

I completely forgot about that part

[normal hedge]

3.11.0
Introduced to the game.

[finite quail]

My bad

[normal hedge]

could you even get negative resistances in 3.11

[icy zinc]

its better to mitigate doryani thing with redirects than armour

[sly basalt]

For someone that never did an CI/ES build, what you recommend?

[normal hedge]

by that i mean -200%

[slow sonnet]

Damn, maybe the reason I keep dying is skill issue

[slow sonnet]

And not lightning damage lol

[cobalt blade]

i think with ventors barely?

[normal hedge]

[thick goblet]

wait till patch notes

[icy zinc]

this redirects 100% of lightning to 50% chaos and 50% cold, oops had to relook

[cobalt blade]

-88 from ventors with quality and then thread of hope stacking

[slow sonnet]

So the easiest way to get low lightning res is with Kalandra rings and Kalandra's Touch

And amulet

[cobalt blade]

Think sirus was in the game then

[normal hedge]

3.11 was harvest

[icy zinc]

there is a belt that reduces your resists

[normal hedge]

[icy zinc]

also melding is -80% res

[slow sonnet]

Also true but it's like 15

Melding is also big

But it can impact your main res due to lowering max res

[ember goblet]

ventors?

[tight plinth]

Isnt malachai ring like -90 or some shit

[cobalt blade]

its -25

[sly basalt]

That's always worthy, I was just curious

[cobalt blade]

immortal flesh rolls -15--25

[icy zinc]

malachai ring is +90% positive

really gutters ring tho

[north cypress]

guys, I saw the breakpoints in balormage guide for holy relic necro, does it count the 20% from passive tree as well?

or before counting?

[tight plinth]

Oh its onlt -20

[slow sonnet]

Is it?

Maybe I thought of the wrong belt

[cobalt blade]

yes

[signal hawk]

Also remember that negative res is capped at -200% (iirc)

[cobalt blade]

yes

[slow sonnet]

No it is 25-15 you're right

[tight plinth]

I was talking about the ring i mentioned

[slow sonnet]

If you use Rakiata keystone you'll need more anyway because it also affect negative res

It's probably the easiest way to deal with lightning damage

[cobalt blade]

yeah rakiatas makes you need -330 or something since your kitava -res is also reduced by it

[signal hawk]

Oh yeah I didn't read the chat people already said it

[cobalt blade]

very much doable though because offf mirrored helicals lmfao

[slow sonnet]

True, just make sure the other mods don't suck

I have a necklace with mana loss on enemy kill

[signal hawk]

Just be careful with the rare and elusive lightning dot

[slow sonnet]

Had to path around for mana cost nodes

[cobalt blade]

can you not just take 2% mana on kill and offset that

[neon veldt]

oh god, how much?

[slow sonnet]

Like -30?

All cause I use a ring with minus int

[cobalt blade]

yeah 2% should offset that its fiine

[slow sonnet]

And no other 200 int amys are on market

For cheap

I mean

[ember goblet]

i have 200int irl

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/lBkylEnqxhsx

How do I improve this ?

[cobalt blade]

by deleting it slams bad

[signal hawk]

I think I have like 173 int/44 str/25 dex irl

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-cat-eyes-crying-fFa05KbZowXiEIyRse

[golden moat]

the nimbus 2000 as a unique item perhaps

[slow sonnet]

Isn't that just Seven League Step?

[cobalt blade]

but uh warcry hat and overexertion support on your mainskill would go a long way

[tranquil umbra]

HMMMM

[hard cliff]

I want a ball and chain skill

[golden moat]

new class confirmed

[hard cliff]

You are right

[neon veldt]

like swinging a ball on a chain or like throwing it and pulling it back?

[tranquil umbra]

flails

[ember goblet]

i don't understand warcrys. but dont explain them to me either

[hard cliff]

Normal and Transfigured solved right here

Vaal version you drop two big balls and a high damage pillar in the middle

[tranquil umbra]

ok dawg

[peak heron]

https://tenor.com/view/dowedeservedestruciton-destruction-doctor-strange-do-we-deserve-gif-14904255190281914356

[hard cliff]

I can illustrate it if needed

[signal hawk]

You scream something and scare people

[tranquil umbra]

no thanks

[ember goblet]

what did j just say

[neon veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/nub-nub-cat-silly-cat-silly-cat-gif-7927275529595398900

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-pizza-hot-dog-1Ju5mGZlWAqek

[slow sonnet]

You seen the meme of a skeleton screaming and banging a shield?

[ember goblet]

sybau

[hard cliff]

Dude I got a crazy idea for a video

[icy zinc]

rahhh

[hard cliff]

Feed your dogs a bunch of condiments and see which one he likes best then make him the ultimate dog hot dog

[ember goblet]

sybau gurt

[neon veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ow3Dz39q0Gw

[native abyss]

dog wit da butta

[native token]

17h till we know if slam is t0 or not

[icy zinc]

Cool. Anyway here’s pi 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481

[neon veldt]

not enough pi

give me at least 5000 numbers

[signal hawk]

Slam will be t0 on announcement and T2 on 20/20 gems

[icy zinc]

wut for free?

[neon veldt]

never actually done RF before, so i will do that this league

then swap to cast when stunned and farm until i can do something cool

[final owl]

wtf is the stream at 6am AU time. What time is that NZ?

[final forge]

Above time (06:00 AEDT) in your local time · Feb 25, 2026, 7:00 PM

[ember goblet]

can you give me a closed form for e

[serene latch]

Hey so it's my first POE1 league anyone able to help me do some of the challenges and get my champion online?

[peak heron]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-spiderverse-click-wait-patience-gif-15649873037655585839

[ember goblet]

the league ends in like.. 6 days

or something

[neon veldt]

i can never take him seriously, bro looks so goofy

[serene latch]

yeah... I'm at like t1 maps.

[final owl]

this doesn't really answer my question. But. 8am NZDT for anyone curious. Which seems to me to be a mildly crazy time to start a stream. But I guess this lines up with northern hemisphere better?

[final forge]

Above time (08:00 AEDT) in your local time · Feb 25, 2026, 9:00 PM

[slow sonnet]

Yeah I'm so sorry

[serene latch]

I hit a brick wall hard on my build I followed and I don't know enough to fix it.

[finite quail]

You got a pob for your build?

[final owl]

post a pobb.in link here or something

[neon veldt]

uhhh, #1┃after-acts-help

[final owl]

or that I guess

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/xuUfWdJgudLf

[stuck phoenix]

Ez just take a break and start fresh on Friday next week

[opaque sphinx]

On the bus atm so missed the convo but that’s how I dealt with conversion

[signal hawk]

I think they choose the time to get most people to watch from the entire globe

[serene latch]

kinda bored of POE2 RN and wanted to give poe1 some more of a chance.

[opaque sphinx]

Bound + dual purity watcher + tempered by war

[finite quail]

you got a pob for your build or not

for if you want help

[serene latch]

Uh, I'm trying to figure out how to import it just a sec.

[stuck phoenix]

Ok. My recommendation still stands

[finite quail]

All good

You have to put your account name, the # symbol, and then your discriminator

the discriminator being the 4 numbers after your account name

on the website

[final owl]

yes makes sense I guess.

[neon veldt]

foulborn hand of though and motion probably getting gutted, right?

[slow sonnet]

Name, hashtag and bunchanumbers

[opaque sphinx]

I was gonna quit the league but gamba all my money on that ring and it hit, so I was forced to make a build around it but couldn’t afford pof sublime so that’s where it ended

[finite quail]

like this

[stuck phoenix]

27 messages

Bru

Xdd

[opaque sphinx]

I got like 98% conversion cuz I ran out divines to use on watcher

[finite quail]

thank you for purchasing the 50 points pack
thank you for purchasing the 50 points pack
thank you for purchasing the 50 points pack
thank you for purchasing the 50 points pack

thats all it is

[slow sonnet]

"An item in your wishlist is on sale"

[stuck phoenix]

Buy supporter packs then

[wide cairn]

What time is reveal tomorrow?

[finite quail]

11am pst

[stuck phoenix]

Big timer on the website

[neon veldt]

17hours left

[ember goblet]

14:00 for me

i

have

[hazy kiln]

it's the usual tension of "every hour we make it nicer for ourselves makes it worse for EU"

[ember goblet]

an

EXAM

[hazy kiln]

same with the actual launches

[slow sonnet]

Sometimes you want to buy 1 thing

[neon veldt]

9pm for me, chilling

[wide cairn]

Thanks guys.

[tranquil umbra]

2 pm I am on my volunteer shift

[final owl]

I understand the reasoning I guess. Just mildly sadge. I'm not waking up at 6am for a stream. But I kinda want the mtx :I

[final forge]

Above time (06:00 AEDT) in your local time · Feb 25, 2026, 7:00 PM

[slow sonnet]

12 pm isn't terrible

[neon veldt]

wake up, turn of stream, go back to eep

[tranquil umbra]

the mtx is available for 24 hours

[slow sonnet]

Oh true, you can just watch a streamer

[tranquil umbra]

you can watch any poe streamer

for 45 minhutes

[ember goblet]

I HAVE AN EXAM DURING GGG LIVE

[final owl]

oh it doesn't have to be the ggg livestream. good to know.

[serene latch]

sent my ninja link

[tranquil umbra]

cope and seethe

[finite quail]

yeah you got 24 hours for it

[finite quail]

where

i dont see it here in chat

[tranquil umbra]

if you don't ace that exam 3.28 is doomed chair

[serene latch]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/vortex_haze-1516/character/VortexHazeKEEP

[tranquil umbra]

work your ass off

[final owl]

in that case, fine with it, just hope I don't wake up to "community_party_disaster.gif"

[finite quail]

Lemme check it out

[slow sonnet]

Nice

[serene latch]

sent it to your dms at first mb

[ember goblet]

it's combinatorics mostly, aka ts is free asl

[worthy cave]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913284 yet another attempt to get PF shit nodes buffed

[neon veldt]

i have an exam on the 5th, 1 day before the league

[ember goblet]

same

i hahe an exam friday and had one today as well

[sacred bane]

Tbf community would be evstatic no matter what if groundloot went up so they have an easy out

[finite quail]

did you forget some supports?

[modern zinc]

mirage league soon?

[sacred bane]

Early map mods and 2 unused sockets

[final owl]

If there is any amount of doubling down (sextupling down?) on the ground loot situation i think the mood is gonna be grim tbh. Also depending on what GGGs take on "fixing" the endgame is. we will see..

[serene latch]

I think iirc I needed 2 more red sockets

and didn't have enough orbs to gamble to make the 4 red I needed

[ember goblet]

buy a 6l chest with the correct sockets probably

6l are exceedingly cheap since its end league and also keepers so tree

[mental violet]

I'm so excited to see this announcement

[final owl]

you're in a tree league, just buying a new 6L is probably cheaper

[finite quail]

Well dont leave em like that, use some other supports that help out your dps while you try to get more chromes

[sacred bane]

Community fix: more groundloot from more content not just one very specific thing and fix ubers
Ggg fix: to be seen

[icy swan]

will evisirate getting buffs ?

[finite quail]

these arent doing anything for you

[surreal musk]

https://pobb.in/1plQa5dD5uCo real day2 gear

[finite quail]

wait until patchnotes

[modern zinc]

I didn't knew elemental equilibrium still existed

[finite quail]

Oh well, precise technique is working

[golden moat]

gimme the nimbus in game

[humble condor]

i guess no teaser for last day?

[modern zinc]

tf is this

[finite quail]

But elemental overload and equilibrium sure arent

[finite quail]

no

[finite quail]

his looks so ai generated

[ember goblet]

i love ai

[humble condor]

confirmed or you just guessing?

[finite quail]

actually its not even doing anything

[golden moat]

its glorious

[finite quail]

if there was a teaser today it would have been posted hours ago

since it hasnt, there is no other teaser

All that's left is the livestream tomorrow

[golden moat]

fye

[final owl]

We are in the "community holds it's breath in anticipation of being thoroughly whelmed" phase

[worthy cave]

what game is this?

[tranquil umbra]

PoE

[final owl]

it's just ai slop

[tranquil umbra]

^

[worthy cave]

ah, I thought it might have been from another game

[eager lion]

They surely won't get rid of Atlas right

[neon veldt]

probably not, but maybe maps will be item level based and not tier based, idk

[final owl]

No. I mean. It's a "rework" not a "complete dismantling of the game from the ground up". To me that means changes to how the atlas works. But it does not mean the atlas is gone.

I mean if you're skeptical of GGG having enough manpower to even do an endgame rework I don't understand how anyone imagines they would have the manpower for an effort that would be 10x more work

[rocky pendant]

no teasers today? I bet the stream will spoil us

[final owl]

don't bogart all the hopium there

[neon veldt]

we got big teaser yesterday, they said 1 big teaster this time instead of many small ones

[spice heart]

Hope they replace it with idols

Fingers crossed

[eager lion]

They already have the towers endless world assets ready from Poe2 though

[rocky pendant]

surely

[sand glen]

that would kill the game

[spice heart]

Lul

[sand glen]

idols can stay in phrecia

[worthy cave]

Feels like no matter what attempt I make to try and get PF's useless nodes unfucked, it's spitting into the wind 🙁

[spice heart]

It would certainly generate a lot of crying

[eager lion]

Reworking the best thing about POE is crazy, I can't believe it's a real possibility

[spice heart]

That’s for sure

[finite quail]

https://pobb.in/2qUIK_Tx3jgK

[worthy cave]

Is the only way to get feedback across is to make bingo boards on reddit?

[finite quail]

nah

[spice heart]

Ya

[finite quail]

dont replace something that a lot of people like

[worthy cave]

Removing horizons = big y i k e s

[cobalt blade]

ee less D:

[finite quail]

instead, make idols optional

[neon veldt]

they could add like a slot for a few idols on the tree tho

[finite quail]

?

[worthy cave]

6 idol slots on tree?

[cobalt blade]

no elemental equilibrium and flat fire on left right

[worthy cave]

Ala cluster jewels?

[hard cliff]

I agree with you @cobalt blade

[finite quail]

now tell me why you would take elemental equilibrium

[cobalt blade]

because the first hit of EA the arrows apply EE for -res

[worthy cave]

EE only applicable on EA ballista

[tight plinth]

I agree with mathil

[worthy cave]

lightning on some sort of ring to trigger the EE for fire damage

[sand glen]

they could also make a bunny girl mtx for all toons but they wont

[cobalt blade]

and then the explosion part deals fire damage and gets affected by that -res

its like a whole thing for EA

[finite quail]

yeah

to other elements

[spice heart]

No

Delete atlas tree

Only idols

[sand glen]

worst bait ever

[spice heart]

It’s not bait

It’s what they should do

[cobalt blade]

you just dont get flat fire anywhere and scale that flat fire

[spice heart]

Idols don’t have to be identical to phrecia idols

[cobalt blade]

since your initial arrows dont have fire if you dont get it on gear anywhere

[spice heart]

There are a bunch of changes they could make to improve them

[finite quail]

Ahhh okay, I see

[spice heart]

But we’ve had atlas tree long enough

Time for it to go

Time for a change

[sand glen]

bait

[cobalt blade]

its mostly used for ignite versions of EA though idk how viable it is for hit based

[finite quail]

Do you even need to inflict exposure with EE then?

[tight plinth]

In case you forgot, ea has no built in conversion

[cobalt blade]

nop you just need EE to inflict it

[finite quail]

I have never played with ea sorry

[finite quail]

I see

[final owl]

IF anyone is silly enough to believe we're getting idols to replace the atlas I will happily set up a bet on a betting platform of your choice for whatever amount of money you like

[spice heart]

Congrats on having no mental model of any consciousness other than your own

Big brain man

[umbral scarab]

I am going nuts guys, tomorrow can’t come fast enough… I may have to ko myself with a rock like in South Park so time goes faster

[sand glen]

your huffing copium stop before you end up in a coma kid'

[finite quail]

https://pobb.in/FvM97K56Zblu

Should be a lil better now

[spice heart]

“It is impossible for someone to genuinely have a different opinion from myself”

Barely even human

Monkey status

[finite quail]

If idols were to ever be added to the basegame, it would be an optional league modifier

[sand glen]

bait

[finite quail]

like ruthless or hardcore

[cobalt blade]

tha ring would still brick it but ye

[spice heart]

Chimp hooting at passing animal

[cobalt blade]

just for like accurate damage calcs

[spice heart]

Disagree

[finite quail]

Didn't notice that ring

[final owl]

I reckon there is a small possibility of them adding idols as atlas "jewels". regardless, it's never going to just straight up replace the atlas.

[finite quail]

Yeah he'd have to change it

[spice heart]

They could if they wanted to

[cobalt blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[finite quail]

Bro atlas jewels would go hard as fuck ngl

[spice heart]

Could make sine changes

[finite quail]

ATLAS PASSIVE TREE CLUSTER JEWELS

[spice heart]

Make them modifiable

Or at least target farmable

Etc

[finite quail]

ATLAS MEGALOMANIACS

[spice heart]

There are a million chances they could make

[cobalt blade]

atlas voices

[finite quail]

UBER SIMULACRUM THAT DROPS ATLAS VOICES

[cobalt blade]

time to spend 6 mirrors on our atlas trees

[spice heart]

But “impossible “ lmao ok

[finite quail]

Okay that would actually be a pretty good shakeup of the atlas meta ngl

[final owl]

words like impossible aren't really useful in this context. we're talking about relative probability

[finite quail]

adding atlas sockets

[spice heart]

I agree it is unlikely

[warm musk]

Why does using the legacy vessel of vinktar not make my mana leech instant? https://pobb.in/yAwHr4AEQH8E

[finite quail]

Just like how jewel sockets and clusters were a large meta shakeup

[spice heart]

I think with some adjustments it would be an amazing change though

Not carbon copy of phrecia idols

[cobalt blade]

do you have the correct legacy vinktar

on your actual char

[modern zinc]

on your actual

[warm musk]

Its this right?

[finite quail]

[modern zinc]

nice

[cobalt blade]

yea just making sure you have the correct one in game

but it only gives life instant and mana not es

[finite quail]

its not turned on in pob

[tranquil umbra]

average standard build

[stuck phoenix]

True

[finite quail]

[finite quail]

226k mana

[cobalt blade]

it could be more

[finite quail]

And he doesnt take mind over matter

Thats odd

[cobalt blade]

ES based

[warm musk]

Ty I was looking at RoA

[finite quail]

oh nvm

I forgot

mom is for life damage being redirected

not es damage

sadge

[warm musk]

if I look at Storm Rain my leech becomes absurd

[cobalt blade]

(you can get %more mana on crucible trees)

[finite quail]

we need foulborn keystones now to make mom redirect es damage to mana

[ember goblet]

we need a foul born class

[gritty garnet]

gee billy how come your mom lets you take damage to two pools

[ember goblet]

im going to name my 3.28 character chairclr_keepers

[finite quail]

scavenger in 3.28

[cobalt blade]

holy fancy looking leech

[finite quail]

regular scavenger and foulborn scavenger will be added so scion has 3 ascendancies

[neon veldt]

scavanger and aristocrat maybe

[finite quail]

no not aristocrat

foulborn scavenger

[cobalt blade]

nah they add behemoth

and armour stacker becomes the best build

:3

[finite quail]

holy shit a cat

[cobalt blade]

mee

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

[neon veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sniff-cat-cat-kiss-gif-26410942

[warm musk]

Just put the Whisperer nodes on Heiro pls GGG

[finite quail]

templar ascendancies need some reworks ngl

[neon veldt]

sabo needs another rework

[finite quail]

Hierophant and inquisitor desperately need a shakeup

They have been virtually the same since they were released iirc

[cobalt blade]

inquis is fine

one of the strongest ascends in the game the whole time

[finite quail]

Yeah but its the SAME THING

every league

[final owl]

Heiro was p.good the last time I did one. I think that was just before last major nerf though

[finite quail]

it needs to change

[cobalt blade]

they could maybe change thee fanaticism node to be less shit though

[finite quail]

Hiero needs actual brand nodes

There's basically no brand ascendancy in the game rn

[cobalt blade]

yeah but i dont want them to change it and now its assassin level unplayable

D:

[finite quail]

WDYM ASSASSIN IS FINE

[cobalt blade]

UNPLAYABLE D:

[tranquil umbra]

perfection doesn't need to change

[finite quail]

seirously this node is absolute dogshit

[cobalt blade]

if it werent for trigger bots it would be nuts for arma brand

brand recall automation armabrand nonsense(just for the CDR)

[tranquil umbra]

ok sure the brand node is ass but the rest is fine

[finite quail]

ANY SKILL where you have to WAIT over half of its fucking duration for it to go into effect is UNPLAYABLE

ITS FUCKING TERRIBLE

[neon veldt]

sabo needs rework more

[gritty garnet]

they tried with the nimis thing

[neon veldt]

guardian too

[ember goblet]

i think ele needs a buff

[finite quail]

Sabo is now an ff ascendancy

[gritty garnet]

but it didn't really make up for trickster just being better in most ways

[cobalt blade]

sabo wouldve been nuts if they didnt nerf splitting steel xdd

wouldve been an insane starter

[neon veldt]

trickster is literally a better mine ascendancy then sabo

which is supposed to be the mine/trap ascendancy

[tranquil umbra]

that's what happens when you give trickster insane generic nodes

but yeah I think witch needs a buff

[normal hedge]

sabo is too niche

[eager lion]

6 billion dps?

[tranquil umbra]

Standard build

[finite quail]

standard

[warm musk]

That's w the Valdo config too. W/o it's weird. https://pobb.in/-CeRPdQE0M27

[ember goblet]

3.28 viable or nah?

[coarse prawn]

Its a standard build, just see the chest

[ember goblet]

yah im being sarcastic

[finite quail]

cheap to leaguestart yeah

you just need about 50 mirrors ish

easy to get if you pick up rares and do your chaos recipe early on

[neon veldt]

just drop a mirror in every zone at leaguestart

[ember goblet]

maybe if i flip some chances early its viable

[sleek barn]

not enough fire res

[ember goblet]

thanks for the build!

[sleek barn]

i thought it was 45k fire res?

[ember goblet]

no only 23k

[sleek barn]

dang

im not in with the meta

[lucid gale]

What's the plan up to reach the minimum drop level tho?

[ember goblet]

hmm

[sleek barn]

ask zao to drop mirror for me

[ember goblet]

idk

ill figure it out

[neon veldt]

rolling magma

[ember goblet]

i hear fireball is quite good at league start

[ember goblet]

can someone std minmax vaal fireball

[dim gyro]

rolling magna always gonna be really strong cuz it hits like 2+ times depending on size of enemy

its annoying to play though

[cobalt blade]

one thing to note an individual hit can iirc "only" do 2.1b damage similar to dot cap but not divided by 60 lol

[sleek barn]

what is that abyss jewel for

[cobalt blade]

naturally less damage taken modifiers make that cap less hittable

[warm musk]

Yep that's why I only do this for valdos and was thinking of going ts for most of the game

[tranquil umbra]

what does "life flask does not queue" mean

[warm musk]

for the boots

[cobalt blade]

yea if you can get the arros prolly fine

[sleek barn]

once you reach full life the effects of the flask will still be active

[cobalt blade]

you cant use 5 life flasks to get 5 flasks worth of duration

[sleek barn]

thats the BiS?

[cobalt blade]

it just replaces the last life flask use

[tranquil umbra]

oh that's how it works

[sleek barn]

not triple synth or whatnot

[cobalt blade]

triple synth is better

[warm musk]

I think w MFA 9 cdr is better?

I might be wrong tho

[sleek barn]

seeing that added minion cold damage makes me sad

like the rest of the build is so polished

[warm musk]

That's what I have lol

[sleek barn]

i mean no shade

this build is doing more than i could posssibly imagine

oh shit

[warm musk]

Tbf I don't craft my gear

[sleek barn]

t0 weapon buffs

i can see essentia sanguis being ok

idk ab binos

[spice pecan]

wait what's different about binos

[junior coral]

binos jsut has more crit or what

[sleek barn]

higher regen

lol

[junior coral]

lol nice meme

[spice pecan]

the flat lightning on essentia is kinda juicy

[warm musk]

They just buffed acc stacker ol?

[hazy kiln]

poison radius is a) doubled; b) shown

and then yeah regen

[cobalt blade]

og poison radius is 1.5m yea

[sleek barn]

also more chaos res

[ember goblet]

dude they spoiled the whole reveal

[cobalt blade]

not bad

i like the essentia sanguis seems playable

[potent bramble]

The player typically does not qualify as 'allies' in text like that, right?

[sleek barn]

no

it would say you and nearby allies

[potent bramble]

As in you can't be an ally of yourself

Ye, that's what I thought

[sleek barn]

wait

[junior coral]

poison radius doubled is kinda yuge no?

[sleek barn]

lol no

[tight plinth]

because you are your worst enemy

[junior coral]

assassin mamba log in?

[sleek barn]

it works in this instance

you count as your ally

[potent bramble]

facts

[sleek barn]

according to wiki

GGG before you buff Binos change wording

[shrewd rock]

Is binos mainly just used in viper strike?

[warm musk]

So tidehunter is not included?

rip

[shrewd rock]

Essentia sanguis looks pretty good

Thats a pretty sizable amount of flat

[dim gyro]

yea. dont think binos gonna get much of usage increase though

[tight plinth]

its pretty expensive tho, id rather have triple ele claw i think

[spice pecan]

[cobalt blade]

yknow double leech on sanguis makes me suspect it might be gone from ghost reaver hmmm

[dusky grove]

true

[tight plinth]

you guys ready for the live stream?

[potent bramble]

Honestly I think it depends on if they make changes to that one set of gloves. B/c poison prolif is (afaik) the main reason people use Bino's, so if you can get that elsewhere and get boost your attack/poison values instead, that's probably still worth it

[shrewd rock]

Its hard to say bc theres some interesting stuff you can do with it

[ember goblet]

I have an exam during ggg live

[final owl]

I am annoyed by how far away the livestream is and have been for days :I just tell me the things. not knowing is the worst.

[shrewd rock]

I havent thought thoroughly for example

For if you had antiquarian

[potent bramble]

You have like 18 hours to get your instructor hooked on PoE so they'll let you play the stream in class with the chat hidden

[dim gyro]

best usage of it would be for something like mamba but PF has build in prolif and the 100% damage doesnt work with binos

[ember goblet]

no ill just uh

watch it later

[shrewd rock]

Well you can do assassin

For more dmg

[potent bramble]

But what if, hear me out

High hit/low speed Cyclone

[tight plinth]

the sanguis? how you gonna poison?

oh hit based

i keep forgetting

[gritty garnet]

I miss when the regen on binos scaled with poison damage

[halcyon prawn]

Enemies are poisoned within a 1.5 3 meter radius of the killed enemy.

bino's change

[ember goblet]

31.5!!!!

[halcyon prawn]

lol

[ember goblet]

🤩🤩

[halcyon prawn]

and the regen is 400 per second

now

[dim gyro]

? binos doesnt work well with multiple poisions u want to have a single high poison since it only transfers strongest poison

[potent bramble]

Hence you gotta go high hit/low speed

But it's still Cyclone, which means you get knockback immunity

as well as 'always moving'

And you get to go in a circle. Which, really, is the most important thing in this game

[ember goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[dim gyro]

i think PF actually is still more damage

[potent bramble]

(The goal is not to make a good build. The goal is to make a build that's so bad/meme-y that it loops back around to good again)

[gritty garnet]

with the conditional yeah

[dim gyro]

alch mark + master toxicist combo just too strong

[blissful zodiac]

gonna assume those t0s in #poe1-news will still be dust fodder

[shrewd rock]

I'm actually not sure

[blissful zodiac]

will they still be dust fodder yes or no?

[shrewd rock]

perfect agony can go pretty hard these days

[halcyon prawn]

does AoE scale the area now that it says "3 meters"? or is it the same as before with Bino

[shrewd rock]

though i haven't fucked around with pob in a while

[blissful zodiac]

keystone or cluster?

oh mb thats pure agony

[charred condor]

Hi guys

Has anyone got mirror from tree yet?

[ember goblet]

people have yes

[dim gyro]

suprised ur saying that when alot of ppl are saying its underpowered https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1reh52a/lets_talk_about_perfect_agony/

[charred condor]

Noice

[shrewd rock]

come on man.

pob it yourself, or explain your logic

[hard cliff]

Anyone got any pre patch note league start ideas ?

I am currently looking at ice crash of cadence slayer 👀

[shrewd rock]

do anything than quote some random dude

on reddit

LOL

oh my god lol

[humble condor]

@finite quail you were saying? seems we did get a teaser after all

[hard cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/497470821359419395.webp?size=44

[dim gyro]

i mean.... ur a random dude too and u never pobed it either lmao

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cheezburger-bird-popcorn-funny-gSRkSblDEjUuk

[charred condor]

Can u have an anointed amulet equipped and the same notable also allocated on the passive tree?

[blissful zodiac]

poe ninja

[shrewd rock]

yeah but i've pobbed it last time i played

[blissful zodiac]

and copy a build

[elfin shale]

Yes but you dont get double benefits

[shrewd rock]

the problem with it is dot cap

[hard cliff]

Hell yeah brother

[charred condor]

Ok

[hard cliff]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[blissful zodiac]

and get a foulborn frost breath

[shrewd rock]

but that's a problem every poison build has to deal with

[charred condor]

Cus I need it for 3rd spectre

[hard cliff]

Hey I have a dumb question

[charred condor]

And don’t want to grind from the specific beyond corpse again

[blissful zodiac]

hear me out

[shrewd rock]

and no, i haven't "never pobbed it either". I literally pobbed it last time i played in merc

[blissful zodiac]

dual strike ambidexterity non strengh stacker slayer

[shrewd rock]

i just skipped 3.27 because it looked like it was gonna be bad

[charred condor]

It’s pretty good

[blissful zodiac]

with lab now giving 100% to choose transfigured gems

[hard cliff]

Can you combine Wintertide brand with creeping frost ?

[sand glen]

you chose right. it was blah

[charred condor]

I have not kept up with the teasers what’s gonna be next league

[sand glen]

dont know yet outside the name

[charred condor]

Oh

[shrewd rock]

i think GGG is neglecting poo1

because they went all in on poo2

[charred condor]

Intentional spelling?

[final owl]

3.27 was a mixed bag, but you can feel the bandaids to fundamental issues

[charred condor]

Oh wait nvm

[final owl]

we are collectively crossing our fingers for something said a while back about 3.28 to mean all kinds of excitingly positive things.

[charred condor]

What thing exactly?

[final owl]

endgame rework

[charred condor]

Ohhh

That would be a big thing

A complete change to maps

Wow

[reef vortex]

bino's teaser makes me think... we dont have a poison nova spell in the game... we should

[tranquil umbra]

poisonblast

[final owl]

I think the expectation is a change to how T17 / ubers work, and some modifications to how atlas works

[tranquil umbra]

instantly procs all poisons on target

[charred condor]

So not a massive change

[elfin shale]

We cant be trusted with that and Low Tol

[charred condor]

What would you change bout the atlas

[final owl]

we have no way to know. it should be some big changes. But it has the potential to range from nothingburger to totally different feeling game.

[tranquil umbra]

don't worry it has a two second cooldown like its sister

[reef vortex]

a skill that consumes poison/ignites to deal some of the damage instantly would be very cool

[cobalt blade]

that first comment is by far the stupidest part of it

PA would be maybe playable if these actually fuckin worked lmfao

[charred condor]

What are some issues u guys would like changed?

Like urgent ones

[cobalt blade]

lack of proj speed scaling vectors making spark bad

otherwise just remove damage every tuesday(3/10 seconds) and add back ground loot and im happy

[final owl]

ground loot is the hot topic currently.

[charred condor]

Less or more

Or rarity controlled

[final owl]

T17s making the current mechanic farming meta worse than it was is up there

[cobalt blade]

a 100x multiplier to ground loot

[twilit matrix]

0 times 100 is still 0

[dim gyro]

This comment from Deathbeam previously i think still applies to Perfect Agony even after the buffs

Crit is bait, seriously (especially now with ralakesh nerf). Master Toxicist is almoist double damage on average because most of your damage actually comes from snapshotted alch mark poison, so you can snapshot this doubled poison instead. This obviously doesnt rly work with ambush. Also you still need to cap/close to cap crit for clearing without ambush, which stretches your already stretched tree too much because of (ideally) double voices. So in the end you end up with less survivability and usually also less damage (i spent some time pobbing highest possible damage setups with mamba and when i tried with crit it was usually way worse, obvs even bothering with this stuff was only worth it for exiles because on good setup you are uber dps capped anyway even when focusing on damage less and defenses more, and this is also where crit is just bait)

[final owl]

We want to actually see things dropping off enemies in maps that aren't tied to league mechanics

[cobalt blade]

yeah

[charred condor]

Like uniques?

[final owl]

and endgame strats are in a pretty dire state these days too

[charred condor]

And good rares

[hard cliff]

Action speed is worthless on a totem build, yes ?

I mean besides laying em down faster i guess

[final owl]

the rares thing is a whole thing unto itself I guess.

[cobalt blade]

i feel like it technically has higher potential but its not actually better in practice from the investment needed to crit cap

since fuck ambush xd

[charred condor]

Oh yea any other good sites for build guides

Other than maxroll

[cobalt blade]

poe ninja maxroll youtube

[tranquil umbra]

I think rares should not drop as ground loot so I don't have to bother with deleting them from my filter smile

[cobalt blade]

and the poe builds subreddit if your bored and wanna look at memey builds

[final owl]

rares should drop identified so they can be filtered for ones worth paying attention to, or they need to fundamentally change. imho

[charred condor]

Yea

Like about 99% of my rare drops are unidentified

[sand glen]

would need a change to chaos recipe if that happens not that i know of many that utilize it anyway

[final owl]

But GGG does not like this idea, they do love to "balance" things with "friction" which essentially means aspects of gameplay that are gated by how frustrating and tedious they are

[charred condor]

So I might miss good rares by just randomly clicking

[pastel zenith]

chaos recipe is really decent first day

[normal hedge]

no one should be doing chaos recipe nowadays, its a waste of time

[pastel zenith]

good way to make your first few divines and rotate to a good farming setup

[normal hedge]

also its miserable

[twilit matrix]

about 100% of my rares drop unseen since theyre hidden

[sand glen]

its ultra miserable

[final owl]

I have never bothered with chaos recipe, I have enough fiddle and tedium in my PoE leagues

[tranquil umbra]

first few divines?? I am not doing that shit until I get a divine bro

[sand glen]

id be out of the item level for chaos recipe before i had half a div

[dim gyro]

i feel like its so much worse nowadays cuz chaos to divines are like 100:1 within the first 24 hours now

[cobalt blade]

chaos recipe for multiple divines is psychotic

[normal hedge]

its a poe2/10 ragebait

[cobalt blade]

you just fill up a tab with ilvl 74? and below rings

and do 83's with one low level ring

[dim gyro]

i remember when it would be like 30:1 after first 24 hours

[final owl]

I mean it comes down to this - for rares to be worth IDing, they need to be rare and usually actually good. The current system is "here is a giant pile of horse poop, you get to try and find the pony hiding in it! enjoy!"

[hard cliff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721138659448848414/1476424497161568437/image.png?ex=69a112f6&is=699fc176&hm=4090347d10cbf5bfa22bf407fc7f9e8d50730ae736b706a0dab42a53ee997abb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[cobalt blade]

surely they make heist smart loot core game right

[hard cliff]

Chat is this a buff ?

[cobalt blade]

1.5m >3m's and double regen+higher chaos res

[twilit matrix]

ofc

[potent bramble]

Objectively yes. Impact remains to be seen

[dim gyro]

i remember saying that they needa reduce amount of trash that drops and ppl here compained saying that it would reduce the amount of bases that drops

[cobalt blade]

it would yes

[final owl]

we hardly even need bases to drop with the tree in game as it is

[tranquil umbra]

are you picking up bases past the first few days

[cobalt blade]

im more thinking overqual bases

[tranquil umbra]

unless they are overqual

[twilit matrix]

did they said anything about the breach tree going core?

[cobalt blade]

ye its going core

[tranquil umbra]

they said it's going core

[cobalt blade]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3912208

[twilit matrix]

ew.

[tranquil umbra]

they will undoutably change it

[cobalt blade]

hoping the tree itself gets nerfed outside of ancients tho

[dim gyro]

ppl been complaining since they posted that

the tree actually killed my money making strat i usually do for first week. Rog crafting

[twilit matrix]

to be fair, no matter what they post, ppl will always complain

[final owl]

I think they are fully aware of the complaints

and I imagine they feel like they have a workable solution in mind

buuuuuuuut

[tranquil umbra]

people will complain that it's going core at all regardless

[dim gyro]

i think ppl just dont want the wall breach and only want the circle one instead

[tranquil umbra]

even if they stab it 900 times

[final owl]

of course. They shouldn't have officially stated it's going core without providing the details around what that actually means.

[tranquil umbra]

they said you can get this with the atlas

and viceversa

[final owl]

That isn't something where positive anticipation is going to take the helm

[dim gyro]

if its like what they usually do it'll be reduced chance at walls and not removing it entirely

[tranquil umbra]

I feel like it will be similar to Endless Tide

[hollow nexus]

Wats the point of phys leech

Why couldn’t they change that to attack leech

[cobalt blade]

because thats the claw base

[normal hedge]

its becaue of the base

but ghost reaver is getting nerfed

[cobalt blade]

doesnt really matter though just temple it

[normal hedge]

🥀

[hollow nexus]

True

It’s just like when u read it, it don’t make no senese

Ele weapon with phys leech

[normal hedge]

its a poor choice, but it doenst matter

[onyx adder]

Claw implicits are one area that deserves looking at just because theyre ancient

I cant even remember the last time they got updated

Mind you the last time ggg looked at dagger implicits they all got nerfed by 50% so be careful what you wish for

[warped sigil]

do we know if bloodline ascendencies are going core?

[sage falcon]

arent they alr in std

[simple stag]

they hinted at ascendant maybe

[sand glen]

they were considered core this league

[sage falcon]

bloodline isnt phrecia

[cobalt blade]

yeah their in standard

[simple stag]

oh myb

so many ascendancies now xd

[spice pecan]

thats fine if they give us back pristine fossil tbh

[warped sigil]

if theyre in standard does that mean theyre core? just curious for prepping my build next league

i dont really play standard :P

[shrewd rock]

this comment is pretty specifically for mamba though, since he's talking about snapshotting for alchemist mark.
i don't think fundamentally perfect agony is as bad as you make it out to be. Thereare def. ways to make it workable reasonably, though it's not going to be a fubgun meta ofc

though that's not saying much, bc the dot cap is pretty easy to hit these days

[cobalt blade]

ya

tho there is a chance they get nerfed/changed in some way

[normal hedge]

i hope so

most of them are bad anyways

[wintry lily]

GGG : Wish granted, xgoh claws reduced by 55%

[dim gyro]

I was talking about mamba though....... cuz thats what benefits of binos the most...

[shrewd rock]

well I wasn't lmao.

[surreal musk]

life gain on hit implicits are very strong if youre playing a life based build

[shrewd rock]

I was talking about general usage of binos

as an assassin

instead of needing to go pf for prolif

[wintry lily]

shh, its weak, ggg buff plz.

[surreal musk]

theres a reason es on hit disc is one of the most valuable watchers eye mods xd

[loud geyser]

mamba is so fun but poison build feels like cheating

chaos dmg so strong :x

[gritty swallow]

This person needs yezus

[wintry lily]

ah but thats not claw, ggg plz nerf blue life

[loud geyser]

huh

i have allah i dont need yezus

[dim gyro]

feels nice pressing mamba and everything on screen dies

[hard cliff]

I got a crazy idea

[loud geyser]

YES

the explosions are satisfying

[normal hedge]

no one was talking about that one

[dim gyro]

i do have a feeling mamba is gonna get nerfed though

[hard cliff]

Champion Impale Ballista Barrage

[shrewd rock]

@onyx adder Was there any changes to the core game in 3.27 that you thought made the game particularly interesting that you think someone who skipped it would enjoy if they came back?

or was it overall kinda eeh

[hard cliff]

Honestly at that point I should just go lancing steel champ tho, yeah ?

Is self cast impale even viable

[loud geyser]

nah its too niche

[dim gyro]

think ppl were also doing on hit ele mamba too

[shrewd rock]

unless there's some creative way you're getting more damage, my first instinct is that you might not be happy with your damage

[onyx adder]

Changes to core? No

[wintry lily]

for some god forsaken reasons

I read "hit ele mamba" as "ele hit mamba"

[shrewd rock]

since the game has power crept a lot since lancing steel was added and the paradoxica+savior combo was popular

[wintry lily]

I need a nap.

[onyx adder]

There were almost no changes to core in 3.27

[hard cliff]

yeah you are so prob right

[shrewd rock]

anything non-core that is worth coming back for you think?

[surreal musk]

lancing steel got murdered with the 'projectiles cannot return' nerf

or was that just splitting

[normal hedge]

not counting acc stacker would be 3%

[hard cliff]

Is their anything thematically similar that's good ?

I kinda just wanna throw metal at people but not spec throw

real metal

[shrewd rock]

I think that if you're able to go crit + impale AND have decent defenses you might be happy with it

[hard cliff]

American metal

[shrewd rock]

but you definitely need to pob it

lmao

[onyx adder]

Um

What are your feelings about the colour purple

[surreal musk]

nm it was splittin steel i was thking of

[hard cliff]

Actually serious if their is a good "throwing metal" skill

[onyx adder]

Like, as a general thing

[shrewd rock]

ngl i think it's kinda ugly

[onyx adder]

I see

And how do you feel about walls

[loud geyser]

ele damage can always be utilized for attack builds, especially with osin for chaos setups

[dim gyro]

think they treated it as a better dual strike

[onyx adder]

Does the thought of a nice high brick wall make you chubby in the pants?

[dim gyro]

cuz mamba doesnt have the -30% AS dual strike does

[onyx adder]

Ok, then no

[shrewd rock]

fuck

wait

they're actually gonna make the new breach core?

didnt everyone hate it

[onyx adder]

All y'all can summarize that shit for dis

I cbf its long

[dim gyro]

alot of ppl do

[wintry lily]

Everyone is basically hoping that the tree nodes/scarabs can fully block the wall breaches

[opaque wing]

A lot of people were vocal about it, if that means a majority or not is a different question.

[wintry lily]

or they'll just block the whole breach

[hard cliff]

Is bladefall still uber viable ?

[wintry lily]

I personally didn't mind the wall breaches, they do be kinda boring tho.

[shrewd rock]

bf/bb should be

it's a 2 button skill

and those generally have more power iirc

by ggg design principles

[hard cliff]

I like two buttons as long as BF can still clear trash most of the time

[shrewd rock]

maybe you should just go meta

[crisp elm]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KJABJ8YF8E1HP5DCNV9A238B/4x.avif

[wintry lily]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[dim gyro]

think imma try PBoD or KB this upcoming league. never used thiose skills be4

[crisp elm]

[sand glen]

same ai slop a second time

[shrewd rock]

ok it's looking more and more likely i skip 3.28 as well lmao

if ggg isn't gonna put effort in

[wintry lily]

Might as well skip until either poe1 dies or poe2 dies then.

[dim gyro]

waiting on the livestream tomorrow.

[onyx adder]

U know what u should do

[shrewd rock]

i'll prob just skip until poe2 does 1.0

and play that

[onyx adder]

U wanna guess what im gonna recommend

[dim gyro]

im not playing poe2 til the promised endgame rework

[onyx adder]

Its the same thing i always recommend

Are u excited

[shrewd rock]

no

[onyx adder]

U should

[shrewd rock]

bc patch notes

[onyx adder]

Wait for it

[shrewd rock]

is not gonna change my dec

[onyx adder]

I said wait for it

As if spoilers

[shrewd rock]

ruined

[hard cliff]

Are ballistas meta ?

[spice pecan]

bladefall probably wants woke spell cascade but we've had this conversation in here before

[shrewd rock]

no

as much as faust hopes

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/thelonelyisland-movie-lonely-island-palm-springs-mCsEY24fPYTUL5V0n4

[shrewd rock]

i dont think ballistae

have ever been meta

but they'll do ubers

[spice pecan]

i think they were pretty good in archnemesis

right?

[onyx adder]

The problem with bladefall clear is its bad

[hard cliff]

not even explosive arrow ballista ?

[cobalt blade]

EA elementalist/champ were meta for a while

[onyx adder]

Unless u gem swap

[peak heron]

no its good for leveling early just drop turrents through the map and collect xp

[shrewd rock]

ah

[spice pecan]

if you don't mind waiting 5 business days for damage, it's good

[onyx adder]

Because the radius on conc effect bladefall sucks dick

[shrewd rock]

ok EA doesn't count

i think he means like

real ballistas

[cobalt blade]

people also have done shrapnel ballista dex stackers for bossers for a while

[wintry lily]

sarrow ballistas are meta in my heart.