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[solid thicket]

Ah okay

[brazen vector]

[opal ingot]

results

[sly basalt]

i can't wait to play 3.28 on my new pc

[solid thicket]

Does it work on the phone ?

[split maple]

ramping

[brazen vector]

as long as you watch on twitch connected to your PoE account, yes

[split maple]

got like half a mirr of scarbs to vendor tho gonna take a while

[opal ingot]

23 hours left

until stream

[solid thicket]

Ah aight imma do that

[split maple]

@cobalt blade can i at least do these

[tranquil umbra]

the night before ggg live

[cobalt blade]

is there even a use for tormented spirits ones lol

[frigid wedge]

im scared

im gonna brick it

[cobalt blade]

also i was just messing :p

[hazy kiln]

the anticipation is the worst right now

[tranquil umbra]

nah actually I got Ultrakill Layer 8 to worry about rn

[fossil mural]

shoulda played charlatan

[brazen vector]

[loud geyser]

its killing me

[brazen vector]

charly bricks it

[fossil mural]

if are weak of spirit

skeleton armies ftw

[hoary scarab]

spirit?

poe2 mentioned

poh

[modern zinc]

I can reserve more auras if I keep my mana

I doubt having more life offset the benefits of auras tbh

[frigid wedge]

the absolute fear

i just felt

[modern zinc]

really? I didn't knew that

bit scared of trying it out tho

[sly basalt]

are we gonna have more teasers/ info today?

[modern zinc]

nope

just livestream now

[sly basalt]

damn

why

[hoary scarab]

we gonna have all the teasers and info tomorrow

[modern zinc]

too busy working on the game I guess

[cobalt blade]

yea its funky

[tranquil umbra]

too busy fixing the loot

[solid thicket]

How do i connect twitch account to poe exactly?

I cant figure out how to do it on mobile

[opaque wing]

Well the community team isn't the same people developing the game. Really its probably just the arbitrary this is the schedule they set out.

[frigid wedge]

NO

I CANT MOVE

NO

[crisp obsidian]

No one knows

[frigid wedge]

NOT LIKE THIS

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-719764880701715616

[crisp obsidian]

Imagine being mad when bug abusing fails

[cobalt blade]

sign in on the poe site > my account > manage account > and near the bottom of that it should have twitch link things

[crisp obsidian]

Kinda cringe

[fossil mural]

wasnt evo alva originally not a bug

I imagine it was the same

[cobalt blade]

your stuck in timescale

time isnt progressing in the map

[hoary scarab]

where frames

[ebon tendon]

Funny this bug was even around in 3.26

But seems noone did it

[stoic horizon]

i agree the shield is meh

[frigid wedge]

i cant move

why does it give up

[ebon tendon]

Or those who did said nothing

[frigid wedge]

halfway

and just not let me keyboard input

[fossil mural]

search on bug forum

[frigid wedge]

or game input

i had time to do

twice this amount of mobs

but instead

[fossil mural]

your cpu is absolutely dying

[frigid wedge]

i have to watch it kill itself

[cobalt blade]

basically theres so much shit in the map the server is struggling and slows down time to try catch up

and its just failing to catch up

[frigid wedge]

but it isns slowing

[tranquil umbra]

your cpu is also dying

[crisp obsidian]

I really do hope ggg punishes every single abuser

[ebon tendon]

I freeze but the enemies still get to kill me

Fun

[frigid wedge]

the only reason im using this is because im sick of seeing fuck all loot for the last 3 leagues

[crisp obsidian]

Ok

[fossil mural]

thats why you farm tiles

and stop bitching

[frigid wedge]

and for once my build is suited to the only content that is worth it

rn

[normal hedge]

jenebu is playing the game just fine every league

[fossil mural]

boring loot all the way

[frigid wedge]

tiles are the worst feeling thing other than slams in the entire game

[fossil mural]

I love boring loot

its consistent

[tranquil umbra]

they will fix loot in 3.28

[fossil mural]

it doesnt fuck you over

[frigid wedge]

i would like to mention i still

[tranquil umbra]

by removing it entirely

[frigid wedge]

cannot move

[ebon tendon]

Whats left?

[fossil mural]

make mobs outside of content not drop loot, and make mechanic mobs only drop their loot

[tranquil umbra]

now all loot will directly move to your inventory and no sound will be made

[coral summit]

im placing bets that they dont remove walls in breach but make hive breaches giga rewarding

[crisp obsidian]

Didn't I say every single abuser 🙄

[stoic horizon]

i abuse spending time in my hideout to drop less loot, very efficient way to do that

[fossil mural]

currency is now sanctum exclusive

[frigid wedge]

the rest of my pc is fine

[cobalt blade]

0mV

[frigid wedge]

its literally just poe is stupid

[coral summit]

so nobody will do it and I can just print money with it :>

[cobalt blade]

tile loot is now 100x less common

[stoic horizon]

and item drops heist only

[solid thicket]

Done thank you so muchhhh

[frigid wedge]

i wouldnt be so pissed off i think

if not for this

why does it do this

[ebon tendon]

Nom nom spaghetti code

[fossil mural]

would have been fine if it returned you to the map

and kept the buffs

worse game

[frigid wedge]

exactly

[crisp obsidian]

Cause you are bug abusing

That's why

[frigid wedge]

bug abuse that 2 leagues ago was making more currency without being bugged?

[fossil mural]

bruh you biting that shit

[crisp obsidian]

How is that relevant?

Your issues are literally caused by you abusing bugs

[frigid wedge]

because its the end of a league and its been really pissing me off watching them slowly remove everything that drops actual loot and im sick of it

[fossil mural]

[crisp obsidian]

Nothing I said is wrong

[proven tundra]

can someone please help out a noob, in this Flicker strike pob guide from magefist, what is the Automaton group of gems doing?

[frigid wedge]

that doesnt change the fact that not a single other person using such, is having this issue

[fossil mural]

blood rage

[frigid wedge]

their game doesnt decide it cant be bothered

[tranquil umbra]

Automation Blood Rage is so ass

[normal hedge]

idk send the pob

or just open it and see whats disabled

[fossil mural]

I imagine there is supposed to be a guard skill too

[crisp obsidian]

Try not abusing the bug and see if it happens, if it doesn't then it's caused by the bug that's being abused

[frigid wedge]

also considering its taking me half an hour to deal with one of the maps

[hoary scarab]

prolly immortal call or steelskin

[frigid wedge]

how is it even harmful atp

id make more on my normal farm

i just wanna see shit drop

[fossil mural]

blood rage automation + cwdt guard skill

[proven tundra]

https://pobb.in/9RLVYby48b__

[proven tundra]

sorry, can you elaborate further, am i supposed to put the Blood Rage together on it?

[crisp obsidian]

Wow announcing a race for poe2

[crisp obsidian]

Instead of poe1

Smh

[normal hedge]

read the label

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/feed-me-hungry-eating-spoon-full-bite-gif-14656605

[frigid wedge]

wat

[cobalt blade]

cwdt>automation

[proven tundra]

i cant see no label, is there an app for this

[potent bramble]

Not specific to the ongoing debate, but more just in general, I've always been a little lost on what differentiates bug vs exploit vs unintended feature. Like it feels really arbitrary, but could absolutely be a 'me problem'

[normal hedge]

yes https://pathofbuilding.community/

[tranquil umbra]

Path of Building

[brazen vector]

for 3 divines, absolutely fine

[frigid wedge]

oh its very clearly a bug

if u kill smth between the 2 shrines

it breaks

[fossil mural]

bug is when the game isnt working as intended, exploit is intended interaction from game functioning point

[frigid wedge]

if u click another shrine

it breaks

if u dont go straight to alva

it breaks

its not intended

[fossil mural]

unintended feature is exploit

[cobalt blade]

why is there a single red dot in the corner

[brazen vector]

thats for the catgirls to fetch

[normal hedge]

a ggg employer said that bug is there since 3.26 but no one ever found/reported/snitched it

[crisp obsidian]

Unintended feature is when the devs leave a bug in the game as a feature, bug is a problem in the programming causing something to happen that should not and exploit is just what you are doing when abusing bugs

[proven tundra]

oh ok, theres a lot of information left out reading the pob link from a browser

[fossil mural]

tencent reported info on the bug? wow

[cobalt blade]

unintended feature would be like hoiks in terraria

its technically a bug they decided to keep it since its cool

and have gone out of their way to not patch it accidentally

[sleek ocean]

question will once again will attack build tempt me or is it minion / spells xD

[fossil mural]

if I had any

[cobalt blade]

just become the catgirl smh

[brazen vector]

you wont get any

[potent bramble]

Yee. That's usually the mentality I try to utilize, but at the same time I do feel like it'd be impossible to know what is/isn't intended (in a generic sense, not excusing any specific things) until the devs made an official ruling

[fossil mural]

wdym this is what gets them

[frigid wedge]

what if i wanna be a fox

[cobalt blade]

skul

[sleek ocean]

kinda wild xD

[cobalt blade]

become fop :3

fox's are chill they hang out outside my house every once n a while

[crisp obsidian]

It isn't intended until devs say otherwise

[native abyss]

teasers?

[potent bramble]

So it ultimately becomes one of those "there are no good solutions" problems, I guess

[stoic horizon]

more for me then

[brazen vector]

until they remove the source, RIP domi scarab of teaching

[crisp obsidian]

Well there's also using common sense, like with common sense anyone can see that the alva thing is a bug

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sit-waiting-looking-sitting-gif-8267361770141494571

[potent bramble]

If there's a thing that might be a bug, it doesn't matter which way you guess - if you're wrong, you're screwed. Which I suppose is the entire idea behind the term 'grey area'

[tranquil umbra]

jiji we get it you don't like bug abusers but you don't need to say it every 10 seconds

[frigid wedge]

generally if literally touching anything immediately breaks it u can safely assume its a bug

[stoic horizon]

literally the first anime i ever watched, brings back memories

[frigid wedge]

such as this

[fossil mural]

@crisp obsidian need expert opinion is this a bug

[cobalt blade]

:3

[tranquil umbra]

that is an arthtopod

[potent bramble]

Ye, like I said - I wasn't really talking about the specific instance y'all were talking about in that moment. Just the overall terminology

[crisp obsidian]

Not allowed to have a discussion with someone? Omegalul

[tranquil umbra]

I did not say that

[fossil mural]

"discussion"

[potent bramble]

There's 100% instances where something is just objectively a bug

[wraith rock]

live stream means contents and patch notes shortly after or later on?

[tranquil umbra]

this is also not a discussion you are just venting

[frigid wedge]

supposedly not

[brazen vector]

yes

[frigid wedge]

apparently this time

or smth

[brazen vector]

no?

[native abyss]

i do not like bugs

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah just bringing out that some bugs can be realized as bugs with common sense

[frigid wedge]

idk someone said they werent doing patch notes after qna

[fossil mural]

they are coarse and get everwhere?

[frigid wedge]

or smth like that

[crisp obsidian]

That it's not always grey area until devs say otherwise

[rancid peak]

Like 2-3 hours after usually

[normal hedge]

who said that

[tranquil umbra]

patch notes are scheduled now so even if qna doesn't end early they will be posted on time

[potent bramble]

But to use a different example - the interaction between the harvest idol and Kingsmarch during Phrecia 2.0. Turned out to be a bug, and was dealt with accordingly. But until they said something, I would have assumed it was intended

[cobalt blade]

unless ggg says it id just assume its after qna

[cobalt blade]

every other unique idol is limited to 1

[potent bramble]

Because if all the other unique idols were set to limit 1, something breaking the norm was - to me - evidence of a decision

[wraith rock]

same day or other day?

[stoic horizon]

wdym they dont have a big red "patch notes drop" button in their studio?

[tranquil umbra]

they retired it

[fossil mural]

its a unique idol, and every other idol has a limit of one

the wording does not suggest they stack

it was obvious

[frigid wedge]

someone asked earlier and someone said it had been said

[cobalt blade]

And in general unique items have limits either mechanically 2 or 3 ring slots or jewels having limit 1 limit 2 etc(with very few exceptions)

[frigid wedge]

ik

very specific

[opal ingot]

what is the lore reason for this

have i told you the story of how tyty fumbled a conversation with a girl irl

[potent bramble]

I dunno, to me it wasn't. I can appreciate that it was a bug, and I'm not trying to say that it should have stayed how it was. Just saying my initial thought would have been it was a decision that got made instead of a missed line of code

[fossil mural]

its not a tale a redditor would tell you

[stoic horizon]

he plays wow no more explanation needed

[fossil mural]

the wording was clear

[normal hedge]

do you think tyty ever goes outside

[stoic horizon]

[crisp obsidian]

I wouldn't necessary call that a bug. If it said limited to 1 and then it didn't limit it to 1, then I would call it a bug

[native abyss]

not sure why anyone would wanna go outside

[crisp obsidian]

More than most of us I would bet

[heady cliff]

redditor met a rare being and the rest of the story is told in hushed tones at dark corners?

[normal hedge]

all he does all day is wow and osrs

[tranquil umbra]

man I love zizaran's bits where he just imitates tyty

and he does it so well 😭

[potent bramble]

That might be a better way for me to phrase my thought, actually - because yeah. If it explicitly says one thing and does another, I would say it's a bug/obvious mistake. If it doesn't say anything, any it's not clearly broken (in terms of mechanical function), I would default to assuming it was a change made to try something new/different

[frigid wedge]

that map had very few scarabs but i think the tinks made up 4 it

[opal ingot]

i need a link brother

[fossil mural]

same wording, but the ring doesnt double your ignite if you wear two

[frigid wedge]

a whole TWO

wowie

xD

[crisp obsidian]

Could call it an unintended feature :p

[fossil mural]

this tinked

with filterblade

[frigid wedge]

catalysing and valdo

[fossil mural]

[loud geyser]

is that lair of the minotaur

💀

[fossil mural]

yeap

[tranquil umbra]

that's an elder guardian

[frigid wedge]

no that is an enslaver map

[loud geyser]

oh

tinked map?

[frigid wedge]

shaper maps have stars on border

[fossil mural]

they all tinked with a base filterblade filter

[frigid wedge]

no

[loud geyser]

r u in levelling filterblade

oh

[frigid wedge]

it didnt tink

[loud geyser]

ye

[frigid wedge]

it makes same sound as a t16.5

[cobalt blade]

whens the zizaran thighhighs arc smh my head

[frigid wedge]

which is the same sound as an ex

[fossil mural]

how do you know

he is not in it

[frigid wedge]

just go watch mathil

[fossil mural]

now

[cobalt blade]

true

[cobalt blade]

lol

[fossil mural]

assziri cosplay

was goated

[frigid wedge]

how my mapping strats feel these days

[frigid wedge]

ok but like

[fossil mural]

actual thighhighs

[frigid wedge]

the zana one actually looked good

this one was interesting

[cobalt blade]

that one was fire

[hoary scarab]

its not gay if its mathil

[fossil mural]

its not crossdressing if its poe

[frigid wedge]

what the hell

[fossil mural]

the quality had gone up

[frigid wedge]

icl this is one of the few times where i gotta say it was kinda cute

[cobalt blade]

got the nipples right

[cobalt blade]

Yuuh

[frigid wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/b12ss0/ziggyd_reacts_to_mathilda/

[sly basalt]

we don't have any lady cosplayer for poe ?

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/goon-alert-gif-14317033356293330298

[sly basalt]

just asking

[fossil mural]

for a friend

[normal hedge]

check the message above yours

[frigid wedge]

dslily sometimes sorta does for her intro

but its only kinda

[fossil mural]

she streams in them

sometimes

[frigid wedge]

yea i dont watch her

[sly basalt]

are her builds good tho ?

[fossil mural]

I am not sure she makes her own builds

all ive seen is someones build

[frigid wedge]

idk

why am i still getting notifs for this shit

leave me alone

[fossil mural]

r*eddit

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[sly basalt]

103 upvotes, big

[cobalt blade]

P good if sometimes clunky

[rare heron]

is the source code of craft of exile public?

[cobalt blade]

ngl any time i see dslily mentioned now i just think of the bean bath stream

[frigid wedge]

the what

[cobalt blade]

That was an interesting one to get tossed into from a random raid

[cobalt blade]

Yes

she did a hottub stream basically in beans

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[fossil mural]

I wouldnt call this

ugh

a bean bath

more like

bean-adjacent

[frigid wedge]

meanwhile raven and her beans

wait thats outdated

lemme find recent beans

she has a problem

with beans

[brazen vector]

liking something isnt a problem

[cobalt blade]

oh its that person think shes been recommended to me before but never watched lol face looks familiar

[native abyss]

hate beans

[cobalt blade]

beans good on toast :3

[native abyss]

wtf

mods?

[fossil mural]

Building a wall of bean cans

Is a lil bit

A problem

[frigid wedge]

she on a weekly basis orders a 12 pack of heinz beans

and stacks them

[fossil mural]

Bait used to be believeable

[frigid wedge]

titled: the bean saga s3 episode 7

[cobalt blade]

based lucario in the background

[cobalt blade]

I mean im serious but sure

[fossil mural]

Pineapple belongs to a pizza more than chicken

And sweet pizza is still pizza

[cobalt blade]

Actually i remember the video now and i did watch it it was some big ass bar of chocolate being ordered accidentally

[cobalt blade]

Hawaiian pizzas gud dunno bout sweet pizza

[finite quail]

Based Naca in chat

[cobalt blade]

nou

[finite quail]

No us

[cobalt blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-pet-petting-cat-meme-cat-gif-15527107817750122353

[opal ingot]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxiydFAzybtd3yW4eF8SIjzT1R3n0u1eav?si=dBN7lUntDvkgTxzU

xd

[stoic horizon]

oh its the "i accidentially bought a huge chocolate bar" girl

literally the only thing ive seen from her

[frigid wedge]

first time i saw her she was screaming bro has xray for grippers while doing smth with her beans

[finite quail]

who is this person being posted in chat

[frigid wedge]

we were talking about beans

[heady cliff]

mathilda

[frigid wedge]

nah this is uh

raven alternative

[finite quail]

anddddddd?

[frigid wedge]

no one has changed the topic

please feel free

[heady cliff]

nvm chat scrolled a bit

[opal ingot]

man imagine a 5 hour 30 minute 2 voidstone run while looking at chat 60% of the time

top ccs are crazy

[heady cliff]

you just need to remember build gems, items and all area layouts

and like five time-saving tricks

[ebon tendon]

[nova lion]

and you need a lot of time to practice :]

[cobalt blade]

get that weapon swap leap slam for campaign too assuming non sceptre axe dual wielding setup for inc dmg

[opal ingot]

cant i just pay real money to have the knowledge downloaded into my brain

[stoic horizon]

just eat a book

must be raw

[nova lion]

cooked are more digestive

[stoic horizon]

but have a worse bite to knowlege absorbtion coefficient

[lucid gale]

I don't think I've seen any clarification posts in either direction, the GGG Live post has this wording:

During the livestream you'll learn all about the 3.28 expansion for Path of Exile, its challenge league and other content. After the livestream, Path of Exile’s Game Director Mark and Game Designer Octavian will answer your questions live in a Q&A session with ZiggyD.

Some peeps might infer that deez notes are implied to come at stream conclusion like in the past, while others might take it as them coming later.

[cobalt blade]

Yea i havent either so taking previous precedent of patch notes a bit after qna over "someone said it in general" without a source lol

[frigid wedge]

i only got 1 of the phrecia boxes but im not particularly upset with it either

[cobalt blade]

yo thats a sick portal

[lucid gale]

We'll see together on stream day \o/

[cobalt blade]

[opal ingot]

wow

[stoic horizon]

got that one too from first box

and got the cat pet from second

[tranquil umbra]

I keep forgetting to open these xD

[cobalt blade]

press i think its n by default and search for your boxes?

[frigid wedge]

do you have to sit there and see how much restraint u have in not opening a file in ur emails or do most of the staff team genuinely just have to wait to know what changed

[frigid wedge]

its k and then u click microtransact stash

[cobalt blade]

theres a button to open the mtx stash directly as well

which i thought was n by default lol

[cobalt blade]

think i got cat from first and some crystal level up effect from second

[frigid wedge]

i dont have anything bound but i think i have n for incursion map so sounds aabout right

[opal ingot]

my mtx listis K

[analog shoal]

Still pobing Reaper bleed damage and making some breakthroughs 😌

[frigid wedge]

naca ur doing a lotta pogging today

[cobalt blade]

wuh same amount as usual no?

if i am its cos bored though

[frigid wedge]

ah yes, void

i think

im in a toxic marriage with an atlas strat

[stuck phoenix]

It was rather two missed lines. The line on the item to limit it, and the line on the stat to make it not stack.
Either one could've been missing and it'd have been fine, both together wasn't

[cobalt blade]

love void cards still wanna hit a mirror or mageblood from them at some point

[frigid wedge]

are you by chance a feet enjoyer

[lucid gale]

Nah, not gonna answer that.

[cobalt blade]

which actually thinking of void cards do you know if turning in a gambler and then getting a void from the gambler will auto turn it in with the div card change zao? :o

[opal ingot]

i got osmething really valuabl from the void

[cobalt blade]

completely useless information but ive been curious lol

[opal ingot]

but i forgot what it was

[frigid wedge]

i was mainly just curious bc i seem to remember someone else saying they're having to avoid clicking smth and saving it for the reveal or smth to that effect, although im never sure how well i trust my memory on that

[frigid wedge]

like i dont wanna see notes

but thats fair to not answer

[dusty mesa]

Zao knows but doesn't know, ya know?

[golden moat]

are provisioning wombgifts still gonna exist in 3.28?

[lucid gale]

For myself, I have accepted that I'll naturally know about and work on stuff.
Doesn't take too much away from actually experiencing it yourself in the end, as the end product is greater than the sum of its parts 😄

[opaque wing]

We don't know, but I personally assume yes.

[lucid gale]

Probably helps that I DGAF about build crafting or efficiency.

[dusty mesa]

NDA got them in an appropriate chokehold

[golden moat]

nice gonna prolly league start breach/expedition

[dusty mesa]

Not caring about build crafting??

[opaque wing]

The question is where on the atlas passive tree the breach nodes go, do they go left, or do they move beyond back to the left and put breach on the right

[golden phoenix]

Might've been me, I try to avoid learning stuff but I've failed spectacularly this time

[lucid gale]

I can't build myself out of a wet paper bag.

[frigid wedge]

i could probably make good builds but i personally wanna mess w the silly shit

hence

[golden moat]

will there even be an atlas tree anymore.... who knows. horizons orbs, harby orbs, and scouting reports are gone

[brazen vector]

why that helmet btw

[frigid wedge]

excellent question

its 210% inc dmg

[cobalt blade]

i love dissecting peoples questionable but neat idea builds on ninja and making them good

[native abyss]

i follow guides 😎

[frigid wedge]

and some nice qol

[dusty mesa]

Look as long as the team knows chaos dot and self cast spells needs some love.... no need for confirmation of anything

[frigid wedge]

bc my golems dying doesnt remove the buff when u get 2 of each

[brazen vector]

I dont need 5000 golems

if they die they die

[frigid wedge]

if they die

[barren river]

Whats the best class for nuking?

[frigid wedge]

i stop regenerating mana

and lose my es

[frigid wedge]

and melee mitigate

[opal ingot]

everything in this game nukes bro

[lucid gale]

No-one ever died from losing ES <_<

[frigid wedge]

so

[barren river]

Ok thanks for the info lol

[frigid wedge]

and i lose having a swarm of golems while trying to dodge shaper bullet hell

[brazen vector]

why dodhe

[lucid gale]

Reminds me of a mate of mine playing something that strongly relied on endurance charges a few leagues ago.
Constant stream of "what the fuck, I died, @#$#@ charges" on voice when he played that toon.

[brazen vector]

just tank

[frigid wedge]

ideal

[blissful zodiac]

finna work my first night shift tmwr

[coral summit]

Lmao, someone did not build charge generation huh

[blissful zodiac]

guess i can watch the live

[frigid wedge]

my consecrated path of endurance had ralakesh

[potent bramble]

This is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

[frigid wedge]

and still failed to gen endurance charges

for

diff reasons

[cobalt blade]

ive been wondering how badly do the golems mess up boss targetting

[dusty mesa]

Also what if profane bloom pops proliferated non ailment chaos dots so I could play contagion 👀

[coral summit]

mob mentality is insane, but you also have to have the chieftain infinite power notable to make it good

[lucid gale]

Generally on top of charges, just niche scenarios like theft, phases, or dry spells I guess.

[blissful zodiac]

next time play a juggernaut

[brazen vector]

minions arent that bad, in a party its much much much worse

[blissful zodiac]

or cluster jewels

[cobalt blade]

yeah i know its bad in party from duoing

[lucid gale]

More guaranteed sources might've been hard to build into the build, considering how special they tend to be.

[coral summit]

Fair enough, yeah

[cobalt blade]

just havent touched minion in long enough im unsure exactly how bad it is there

[frigid wedge]

it was ancom and it didnt gen bc i actively removed that capability

[lucid gale]

I love that guy, they craft fairly high-end builds from scratch and intentionally don't look up how other people build them.

[cobalt blade]

arns?

[frigid wedge]

arns

[cobalt blade]

[frigid wedge]

i like fist of war

it beeg

[dusty mesa]

I love tossing out random changes in chat. Maybe in four leagues one of them sticks

[coral summit]

but it sounds like someone internally hasn't died often enough to a random charge theft tormented spirit to remove it :>

[frigid wedge]

and makes the skill less of an eye sore

[lucid gale]

I've mentioned meta uniques to them in the past that they had no idea existed and applied, going "ooh, hmmm" and you can see the cogs turn in their head.

[brazen vector]

@lucid gale any future plans of adding a "throw poop" skill?

[dim turtle]

drugs

[coral summit]

the map mod is fair enough, and rare monsters removing a charge on hit is fine occasionally

the tormented spirit that deletes all charges on hit is kinda dumb tho lol

[cobalt blade]

love thiefs grip

keeps those pathfinders outta the fun valdos :3

[dusty mesa]

That already exists for every self cast spell rn

Poop would do more damage

[native abyss]

im stupid

[coral summit]

what the hell did u die to

[lucid gale]

Mr Lahey has the scoop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuoAdirVFW4

[frigid wedge]

bullet hell

from shaper

[onyx adder]

I know from chatting to devs at exilecon that post death rage has directly caused nerfs XD

[cobalt blade]

ima be real i cant tell if their doing anything here from the bitrate/render res but o7 on not being stun immune

[coral summit]

oooh

dude i barely saw those balls

[frigid wedge]

i have to stand an inch away from his face

[coral summit]

had to rewatch it 3 times

[frigid wedge]

and then i die anyway

[blissful zodiac]

so you shot yourself in the foot?

[dusty mesa]

Im curious which one was the most rage inducing

[onyx adder]

Exarch balls are famously the worst for this kind of setup

[blissful zodiac]

or more complicated for that

[coral summit]

Oooh god yeah

exarch balls on any minion build

[onyx adder]

I dunno i didnt ask

[frigid wedge]

33% chance for triple dmg when i was only clicking skill frequently enough for fist of war anyway meant there was no reason to bypass outside of clear, which felt fine anway

[blissful zodiac]

exarch balls in general*

[dusty mesa]

wasn't there something dumb in archnem

that was super dangerous

[blissful zodiac]

so arns anguish no ralakesh

[cobalt blade]

also maven take this in uber

[blissful zodiac]

got it

[coral summit]

I mean, exarch balls in general are just rippy but can be played around on anything else

[sleek barn]

ok bot is done

[coral summit]

but if you play a minion build you just... aren't dodging shit

you have to build tank for it

[cobalt blade]

flasks

[lucid gale]

"Oh hey, this is actually bullshit." kind of thing? 😄

[dusty mesa]

you get to build tank for it

[sleek barn]

yeah flask itself is a link

[frigid wedge]

actually had both

[onyx adder]

Ya

[sleek barn]

but not flasks

[frigid wedge]

but i think my current build is a bit more foot shooty

[sleek barn]

also theres a random undefined on the bottom

[cobalt blade]

i know it just looks silly :p

[blissful zodiac]

so what in the hell

[frigid wedge]

cant consume brutal charges for consecrated path

only endurance

[cobalt blade]

i think thats the video url?

[blissful zodiac]

yeah but ralakesh counts as having maximum endurance

[frigid wedge]

played around the cooldown

[frigid wedge]

counts as

u dont actually have

any

[coral summit]

I would be very surprised if the topic of lingering aoe effects pausing and resuming on load-in hasn't come up at least once, but I'm not sure that's actually fixable beyond just knowing to not move until grace period is done lol

[blissful zodiac]

ngl I wouldve ditched arns imo

[frigid wedge]

that... is a very attractive set of points

[onyx adder]

Isnt there some wall of text from mark1 on instance pauses somewhere

[coral summit]

I vaguely remember Lance voiding at least one character to synth slam visuals not loading in when he loaded back into the map lmao

[dusty mesa]

Im so ready for tomorrow

[lucid gale]

<t:1772132400:R>

[cobalt blade]

nother thing i would hope comes up is effects like unstable tentacle fiends explosions pausing off screen and then exploding once your running around again (usually invisible at that time)

[coral summit]

and synthete nightmare famously takes fifteen eternities to finish that entire channel, sooo

[lucid gale]

One work and one sleep away \o/

[coral summit]

okay yeah no i hope they delete unstable tentacle fiends entirely

from map mod pool

that HAS to go.

[cobalt blade]

[frigid wedge]

i think action speed slows are more of an issue

tbh

too many of them

[coral summit]

That too, but just in terms of completely unfun maps to run

[frigid wedge]

and only 2 asc by default have points for it

[coral summit]

unstables rank top 1 by a lot

[cobalt blade]

i dont think they are much of an issue wi th aul existing now but admitedly im fine with spending the 2 point tax for it

[dusty mesa]

If any of the bigger changes go through that I want to see this league, I'll buy another $90 pack

[onyx adder]

To be fair to the rest of us, while i like lance's builds and think he puts a lot of effort and knowledge into them, the guy is mechanically basically a walking skill issue

[bold scarab]

and one of them got gutted for anything that isnt freeze

[frigid wedge]

"Players and their minions deal no damage for 3 of every 10 seconds"

[coral summit]

because even if you build a good phys max hit, the unstables also get phys as extra mods

[opal ingot]

"players are sent to the void when they die"

[onyx adder]

So if theres anybody who is gonna forget to stand correctly while mapping its probably lance lulw

[cobalt blade]

yeah damage every tuesday is ass but its not action speed slow

[coral summit]

so unstables basically always end up oneshotting you unless you block xdd

[onyx adder]

I dont actually mind no damage per 3 that much

[coral summit]

see the circle "oh ok, time to loot the best stuff and never come back to this part of the map"

[frigid wedge]

ngl I wouldve ditched arns imo

[dusty mesa]

I did have a friend (he's way better at the game than me) say that I'm better at void stones than him because I play zdps builds and have to actually dodge

[cobalt blade]

also my personal favourite rip of his is the first synthete slam one in a no suppress map

[onyx adder]

Its one of those things where u want to reroll it because its annoying but it will very very rarely kill u

[coral summit]

I do also think the awakener's desolation/runes of searing exarchs are also kind of a pain in the ass

[bold scarab]

its too annoying

there is no playing around it

[cobalt blade]

because he didnt know it was a spell

[bold scarab]

either you can or you cant

proximity shields you get close

[cobalt blade]

eh desolations fine its stationary so you can just avoid it

[coral summit]

to be fair, the actual slam itself looks like it should be an attack

[bold scarab]

other mechanics actually have interactions

[cobalt blade]

runes moving is a bit more annoying

[bold scarab]

but invuln

is just wait

[coral summit]

but the rotating beams are 100% spells

[onyx adder]

Ground effects in t17s kinda awkward just because t17 layouts are already bad

[coral summit]

yeah

[onyx adder]

If t17s were normal maps theyd be irrelevant

[coral summit]

they're pretty narrow so you always end up having to walk through them at some point

which means a moment of -max res and no recovery

on top of whatever big degen

[opal ingot]

xd

[loud geyser]

im thinking of leaguestarting a slam build for mirage 🤔 i hear jugg and slayer are good?

[coral summit]

diiid somebody say kingsmarch mappers

[loud geyser]

i wanna see my screen pop xd

[coral summit]

xdd

[onyx adder]

I mean ur supposed to blink over them but its still kinda annoying since sometimes theyre hard to see or whatever

[bold scarab]

we need the opposite of proximity shields ... where if you get too close they cant be hit

[coral summit]

Dude the exarch runes are borderline invisible

[opal ingot]

chris wilson response 4 years ago in an interview

[hexed mountain]

entire patch note drops tomorrow

wait a bit

[coral summit]

at least the awakener's desolation effect is VERY distinct

[loud geyser]

oof then they have haste aura and other movement speed effects and permanently on top of you

[coral summit]

but if you dont paint those exarch runes bright, eye-searing red

i am NOT seeing them

[loud geyser]

oh fair, they seem to have been healthy picks these last few leagues

[cobalt blade]

its only runes that apply -max and its only -max fire so mitigatable w/ melding and maybe ive just done too many 17's on minmaxed chars but they arent that bad if your paying attention

[onyx adder]

Chris wilson is an actual boomer

[fathom bison]

hi
is this game available on ps4?the og one

[loud geyser]

should be

[fathom bison]

what is it abt i lwk wanted to stsrt

[hexed mountain]

yeah but neither are safe from nerf , jugg's accuracy node has been a problem for a while and slayer is slayer

[fathom bison]

*start

[coral summit]

yee, on my upcoming build it'll be fine since i only take lightning/chaos so the max fire doesnt do anything

[bold scarab]

make it so that when they cant be hit they also cant hit you but instead give a debuff that makes every other enemy hurt more

[coral summit]

but on every build i've played before

it's a huge pita

[onyx adder]

I dont want a spreadsheet i want it FTPed to cloud so i can write dashboards of my item drops

[cobalt blade]

fair nuff

[loud geyser]

imagine diablo but it's actually really good and you'll be investing the next 2 years of your life trying to comprehend how amazing the game is

and still wont scratch the surface

[onyx adder]

Without having to scrape it out of my inbox

[onyx adder]

Theyre absolutely not that bad but they do slow u down and can sometimes kill u

So in my head theyre worse than 3 per 10

Which slows u down but cannot kill u

[loud geyser]

i thought jugg was good for endurance stacking

[hexed mountain]

it is but that is not problematic

accuracy stacking on the other hand

[cobalt blade]

i personally think 3 per 10 is worse because you can crash your instance

[fathom bison]

is this online or?

[cobalt blade]

ex ancestral call+molten strike

[onyx adder]

Its hard to make t17s dense enough to crash ur instance tbh

[loud geyser]

its online, but not an MMO, you can play with big parties, with 1 friend, or just play alone

[cobalt blade]

containment

or shrines

[coral summit]

I remember back in heist league when we still had rares that gave invuln to nearby monsters

[cobalt blade]

mostly containment open 3 boxes lol

[coral summit]

I had a flicker build that would crash my instance

[cobalt blade]

its very crashable in the 3 second per 10 time frame for some skills

[onyx adder]

Probably possible but i havent managed to do it

[karmic gust]

i definitely dislike more the grounds than 3 per 10

and 3 per 10 actually also has counterplay with debuff expiry

[cobalt blade]

ground has counterplay with paying attention

[karmic gust]

no recovery on invisible dot grounds has none other than just moving away when you start dying

[bold scarab]

least you can be immune to the ground effect

[onyx adder]

Burning ground immune should beat exarch runes

Change my mind

[frigid wedge]

yeah but the only build with enough to do that is the one with the deli debuff shit

[karmic gust]

thats not counterplay when the grounds are invisible, e.g you can only notice them after already walking into them

[dusty mesa]

I wish

[frigid wedge]

if corpses didnt hide shit like exarch ground

maybe itd be aight

[dusty mesa]

those runes are the only thing that kills me in uber exarch

[finite quail]

but it's not burning ground

[winter pier]

Yo boys anyone has a link to some good duo party play builds for leaguestart

[finite quail]

no cause patchnotes arent out yet

[onyx adder]

Did i stutter

[stoic horizon]

check snap on yt

[cobalt blade]

maybeb this is just how my pc's handling it but when their "invisible" its just a black square so its very distinct

[karmic gust]

well temporal rift is already pretty big

[cobalt blade]

but fair enough

[winter pier]

Aight thx

[finite quail]

did I, stutter?

[winter pier]

Ye I meant in general

[dusty mesa]

cant remember the name, but some guys always have spark/aura both pobs

[hexed mountain]

i notice the T17 ground effects by having my life not come back up

[karmic gust]

you can also get some on watchers

[onyx adder]

Lmao i dont think we should balance around ur graphics card errors

[karmic gust]

just halving it or so already makes pretty big difference

[finite quail]

Still no cause patchnotes arent out yet

[cobalt blade]

nah its just old newer ones would load it properly

and the effects themself are very distinct loaded properly

[finite quail]

without patchnotes we don't know what will be good and what wont

[winter pier]

Brother when I find builds that were good last league that don't get nerfed I know the build is good like are we slow

[coral summit]

At least for exarch runes specifically, they'd bother me less if they had a more distinct warning before spawning in/their effects actually started

[bold scarab]

btw saying you can be immune doesnt mean i think its good ... i put it right under invincibilty and reflect mechanics in the top 3

[frigid wedge]

i know that whatever i am playing wont be

and thats enough for me

[coral summit]

because as is, you just kill a mob and it spawns on their corpse and the effect is instant

[winter pier]

I'll look it up

[frigid wedge]

[finite quail]

Brother, the point I'm making is we don't know what the upcoming changes are

[coral summit]

so it's just like "ok very cool"

[winter pier]

I never asked for a good build for the next league did I now

[finite quail]

you asked for leaguestart

[karmic gust]

the grounds should have priority over deli fog at least

[winter pier]

Yes I wanna start playing 3.27 today

[karmic gust]

would already make them 3 times better

[finite quail]

Considering current league ends in a few days, it's an understandable assumption to make

[cobalt blade]

but ye those are the 3 mods i just dislike dealing with on any map and every build gets minmaxed to running every other mod(and cannot be leeched doesnt actually seem to roll on 17's which is funky)

[finite quail]

So quit being an ass already

[cobalt blade]

(tho i do risk and will still run maps that randomly roll them ofc)

[frigid wedge]

on armourstacker?

[karmic gust]

i dont mind unstables those are tankable for days with decent enough phys mit

[winter pier]

Xd bro wasn't helpful at all to the question just kept saying we don't know when 2-3 ppl clearly knew and answered and I'm the ass hmm

[frigid wedge]

issue with tentacles is that in normal mapping u need tops like 18k phys max

and they actually need an ok one

[winter pier]

Anyways thx for info boys

[cobalt blade]

my problem with them is phys as extra

[frigid wedge]

and ppl dont build w that i mind

[cobalt blade]

i have been killed by them with well over 500k ele max hit because i run -max pen maps with phys as extra

[frigid wedge]

naca

i think

thats on you

[karmic gust]

i also run those and i wasnt killed by them :d

[cobalt blade]

naturally :3

[coral summit]

yeah at that point ur actual max ele hit has to be like 30k

even worse if no crit immunity

[cobalt blade]

but yeah guard skillless it can tank 1 maybe 2 with -max pen phys as extra but its very deadly

[cobalt blade]

aul is free crit immune

[frigid wedge]

please

xD

[coral summit]

fair enough

[ember goblet]

the issue is you only have 1 life!

[cobalt blade]

so true

[coral summit]

the problem for me is that I play bad builds that require every single socket known to mankind

so I can't take auls

LOL

[cobalt blade]

i mean

i should use those sockets for like a blade flurry 4 link its like 20-30% more damage

[frigid wedge]

i have 1 socket i can move

[cobalt blade]

i just dont care

[bold scarab]

so minion builds?

[coral summit]

(this build would be fifteen times better if I went elemental hit instead of earthshatter)

[frigid wedge]

can you find my easy swap in swap out socket

its very hidden

[cobalt blade]

surely that weirdly colored one

[frigid wedge]

wat

[karmic gust]

i guess if you are relying heavily on max res then yea

i generally dont have issues with tanking them on pf

with much lower max hit

[cobalt blade]

the trans one :p

[cobalt blade]

ye

max res and arctic

[frigid wedge]

thats bc most of pf mitigation comes in the form of dmg spread and actual global changes

[cobalt blade]

no flesh and stone on this setup ofc

[frigid wedge]

rather than res

[cobalt blade]

oh and that totally balanced statline from int

such a balanced stat line

[coral summit]

yeeep

int stacking is definitely balanced

definitely not being taken out back and shot this league

[frigid wedge]

hey look i have 10d investment rf dps

[cobalt blade]

surely not

[frigid wedge]

and a bigger rf than the average rf build

[hexed mountain]

been broken for years , surely this league

[bold scarab]

jug?

[karmic gust]

i mean if they nerf the foulborns then you are back to struggling with damage on int stackers

[cobalt blade]

wut you just dont play it as accuracy stacker

[karmic gust]

i do think that heist jewellery needs to be shot in the head tho i dont rly mind the per stat bonuses you get

[coral summit]

naaah dont nerf my manifold ring

i only just discovered the tincture tech

[frigid wedge]

its a support skill rf

[coral summit]

give me one league to play it LOL

[karmic gust]

yea and then you lose all the attack speed scaling and like half of your flat

[hexed mountain]

man i wish peni brand worked with more cast speed

[cobalt blade]

well yeah but you just click eblade and play with lower defence all the flat in the world

[hexed mountain]

RF of arcane is so cool , but all the actually good skills dont work with more cast speed

[karmic gust]

still no attack speed tho

[loud geyser]

i have an RF mtx i got and haven't used since i dropped it in secrets of the atlas

RF is reliable leagustarter yea?

[karmic gust]

but yea eblade is pretty much your only option for good damage then

[frigid wedge]

honestly the degen from my rf deals less dmg than the rf saves me from

[karmic gust]

yes

[coral summit]

i mean if we get scavenger

[cobalt blade]

ay but you can prolly get to 6-8 aps with 1 or 2 atk speed clusters

[coral summit]

its just a low life eblade league isnt it

[frigid wedge]

it breaks barrels out of range of killing me

[cobalt blade]

for sure

low life eblade league with shavs on jewels

my personal hope so i can play an aura stack sparker

[bold scarab]

RF of blasphemy ... works like blasphemy support but instead of reserving mana it makes the life/es burn worse

[hexed mountain]

ngl if we get scavenger the hottest part is that the scion FF will give scavenger nodes which are 10 times stronger than ascendant nodes

[karmic gust]

does aura stacking even work still

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[coral summit]

shavs>battlemage>either bloodline or death rush/leadership's pr-

bro.

[frigid wedge]

just worse

[cobalt blade]

yeah but you dont go as hard into aura effect

its just more total auras than the average build

[frigid wedge]

u go introspection over aura effect mediums

[coral summit]

ascendant being able to get leadership's price for two(2) jewel sockets

...though you can already get secrets of suffering

for one lmao

[hexed mountain]

i never used FFs on scion , could you FF a node on a class you used? (like pick pathfinder and FF deadeye)

[coral summit]

(though it isn't conflux and needs crits to start)

[hexed mountain]

just to know if scavenger will have to FF out of the 4th wheel only or can take two per wheel

[cobalt blade]

yes

[hexed mountain]

damn so you can get two weapon nodes with FF

[coral summit]

Okay yeah thats a good question, how would FF even work for scavenger since they have like

actually 30+ choices lmao

[frigid wedge]

same way it works on scion

[cobalt blade]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mercenaries/character/Nacasatú-2245/NacaTemplarMercenaries?timemachine=week-12 the aura stack eblade setup i played in mercs lol the damage was closer to half a bil because doryani merc

but on a low life setup youd get alot more damage

even without mercs existing

[hexed mountain]

the good ones are about to be expensive as f tho

[coral summit]

can ascendant FFs roll path of the X or w/e

or no

[cobalt blade]

no

[coral summit]

ok so thats 18 notables across all of ascendant

if you can pick anything off scavenger that's uh...

[sleek barn]

i don't think scav is getting FF

[coral summit]

23

[cobalt blade]

if they make her core it would be a really stupid limitation to not allow that

[coral summit]

so unless they prune some of the less-used ones

[karmic gust]

why wouldnt it get FF that would make no sense

[coral summit]

that would be ultra inflation

[cobalt blade]

like its a minmax thing i would pay a mirror for those jewels if thats what they get priced at

[coral summit]

of the scion forbidden combo pool

[karmic gust]

thats like not giving deadeye ffs randomly

[cobalt blade]

yea^

[karmic gust]

or warden after rework

[bold scarab]

FF needs to be deleted from the game

[cobalt blade]

i mean i dont rly see the issue

it just lowers the price of valdo maps for them :D

[karmic gust]

also this is just attrib stacker smh

was kinda hoping theres some setup thats not so reliant on ammy

[opal ingot]

i rate this 8 out of 10

[karmic gust]

so i can slap fury valve on it for spark

[sleek barn]

on my bingo board if scav gets no FF

[cobalt blade]

well yea its hard to beat that :p

if scav becomes score tbf

[sleek barn]

we wait for patch notes

[cobalt blade]

you could just use fury valve

if its not completely reworked

since thats on scav

[coral summit]

how does fury valve even interact with skills that fire multiple projectiles by default

[karmic gust]

oh scav has fury valve?

[coral summit]

not x additional but just x projectiles

[karmic gust]

you keep them

[cobalt blade]

ya

[coral summit]

ooh

but any further modifiers make every single base proj split that many times?

[karmic gust]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJiIssEYog pretty much this happens with spark

[opal ingot]

the splits also split?

[sleek barn]

no

[coral summit]

sick

do the split projectiles count as the original cast for hit limit, or do they count as new entities that can hit separately?

[karmic gust]

original

but you get more chances to hit on cd

[opal ingot]

aw

[coral summit]

ahh

[karmic gust]

and for spark of unpredictability more proj speed randomization

[coral summit]

so it's still insane but not completely busted

[karmic gust]

and direction randomization

[dusty mesa]

does the split refresh duration btw

for spark

[karmic gust]

its pretty insane for unpredictability

[hexed mountain]

oh damn i tried spark with refraction runegraft and thought fury valve would do the same

[karmic gust]

less insane for regular spark

[karmic gust]

no

[dusty mesa]

ah so not as OP as I'd hope, but still pretty strong

[cobalt blade]

its different wording

refraction is max 1

[blissful zodiac]

how about you split these strawberry cheesecakes

[frigid wedge]

i love ex sslamming half of an item

[karmic gust]

but unpredictability is best spark anyway soo

[cobalt blade]

so true

[cobalt blade]

uh did you missclick slam a suffix

[frigid wedge]

which one

[cobalt blade]

crit chance over having cannot roll attack stuff

[blissful zodiac]

GG BRO TIER 9 FLAT FIRE

[frigid wedge]

it needs flat lightning

[blissful zodiac]

go mirror service the quiver

Definitely a gg item

[dusty mesa]

[blissful zodiac]

OH AND T1 LIGHTNING RES LETS GOOOO

[frigid wedge]

so ur either spending 2d per attempt or ur spending currency to go: cannot roll, ex slam into dmg with bow, multimod, suff lock, scour, suff lock add remove lightning

its def less effort to just

slam

slam again

[cobalt blade]

were you not doin cannot roll attack>slam inc>multimod/matron>add light>craft as once you hit

fair enough

[brazen vector]

Mana stacker uses lightning res on quiver

[blissful zodiac]

SEE GG

[frigid wedge]

26-40|suffixes literally sat there with this in my crafting bench with sum exalts and scours

and not having to move

instead of 3 diff benches and waypoint use

etc

[earnest sapphire]

guys u wanna see a teaser leak

https://i.redd.it/eqiaqhdcellg1.gif

[frigid wedge]

alesia is taking it from me tmr anyway

idek why im bothering on t2 cc instead of multi or veiled res

icl

im too outta it for this shit

imma go

oh right

[cobalt blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[frigid wedge]

spite ess is 14 per div

and has no stock in chaos

thats why

[opal ingot]

https://youtu.be/M-fr4mFBoGI?si=QDe5CkTUOCMpnQTK

i love how clean this is

[brazen vector]

I sleep too

Gn

[cobalt blade]

gn alesia :3

[modern zinc]

sleep well and have sweet dreams

[sly basalt]

Hype

[sly basalt]

yeah, this feels so good, it should be official and in game lol

[modern zinc]

are you guys fr?

[opal ingot]

Hmm?

[icy zinc]

https://i.redd.it/eqiaqhdcellg1.gif

i want this so bad

as a poe 2 atlas enjoyer

[icy zinc]

holy heck

they improved it

[earnest sapphire]

im amongst enemies

need extraction

[icy zinc]

i also played poe 1 for uhh 13 years?

since beta basically

[earnest sapphire]

no u havent

2012 wasnt 13 years ago bro

dont say that

[opal ingot]

Graphics are really clean, he puts really vital tips for sustaining like the diagonal setup which is by far the most understandable explanation I've seen.

has some small tips that are huge like the harvest swap, recommends the league mechanics I like for fast gearing without overloading you with all the possible mechanics you could do

[onyx adder]

Btw i had a look at forbidden jewel drop rates from the various youtube unboxings and approximations from trade site

Looks like every jewel is equal weighted other than the uber ones

[icy zinc]

thats good

uber ones are like 2/7 good

rest bad

[onyx adder]

ie it doesnt roll class first then jewel

[icy zinc]

[earnest sapphire]

why would it do that?

[onyx adder]

So if theres an actual nother zillion ascendancy nodes coming from scavenger then that might dilute the pool

[earnest sapphire]

like drop more for ur class?

[onyx adder]

Theres 19 scion jewels

[icy zinc]

only ever heard or seen fatal flourish be useful

[cobalt blade]

correct

(source me running too many valdos)

[icy zinc]

ah ye the scavenger

hopefully she's disabled

[cobalt blade]

unleashed potential is broken

[onyx adder]

So yea if we actually get scavenger

[earnest sapphire]

marauder one was good in 3.25

[cobalt blade]

nine lives is good for looper builds

sometimes a few hundred div

[earnest sapphire]

cause msoz had infinite dmg it was worth losing dmg to take 25% less dmg

[onyx adder]

U might have to pay more for ur FFs

[opal ingot]

Oh no

[cobalt blade]

indomitable resolve is taken for valdo runners on marauders yea

[icy zinc]

I GUESS marauder one is fine with like the schizzo deli ascendancy

[earnest sapphire]

i mean like

[cobalt blade]

you should go read schizo

[icy zinc]

its still minus dps

as well as 2 jewels

[earnest sapphire]

doing like

400m dps vs 500m dps isnt even that noticable

[icy zinc]

and other node from chieftain or berserk or juggernaut

[earnest sapphire]

but taking 25% less dmg might let u tank a ton more shit that u previously couldnt

[icy zinc]

perhaps

its deffo more than 10% less dmg

[cobalt blade]

its a massive amount of tankiness

[icy zinc]

it d obe

25% fortify