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[coral summit]

VAA is just cheating th

tho*

[cobalt blade]

well ye but vaal AA isnt real :p

[coral summit]

but real talk i will probably actually start using it

[coral summit]

for super super early bossing

like first 4 voidstones "please do not delete my portal" kind of thing

cuz normal AA doesnt even need to be on, you just need an empty gem socket for it

but yeah this is my current iteration of "I definitely believe I will spend long enough in beastlock hell for this and not stop two jewels in" pob lmao https://pobb.in/hKY0T959l2uZ

[karmic gust]

there is basically no reason to not run vaal aa for maven at least because memory game will just break it so you arent even stuck after

[coral summit]

there are many, many outs for the new league mechanic to relieve a ton of build pressure in any direction

but all of them pretty much have to be like graft slots where they dont compete with existing gear

[surreal musk]

no tailwind elusive boots ?

[coral summit]

nope

it needs the suffixes

cuz it needs stats for leadership's price

[warm musk]

The reason you can't talk memory game is probably because you both drop end charges and fortify?

[karmic gust]

if you put DF here you could get some very nice stuff with impossible escape

[coral summit]

The problem is putting it there means dropping admonisher

cuz it overwrites it with a random vaal notable

and admonisher is too good not to take

[karmic gust]

ah yea

[fringe idol]

So I have to ask do we think energy shield/energy blade will remain? Do we expect ES nerfs?

[coral summit]

I considered taking it near minion instability with a minion instability impossible escape on the way to EB

since you can get five notables there

but adorned setup just ended up beating it out

and the two one-point chaos+max chaos res nodes are just too good IMO

[karmic gust]

i mean ngl

its not that much

assumingyour config is correct

[coral summit]

it's the warcry speed

on a 3x manual warcry setup

[karmic gust]

oh you are self casting 3 warcies ew

[opaque wing]

IMO I expect no changes there. But i've seen a lot of people calling for ES nerfs. (IMO we just need Life buffs slightly more if anything, but I feel like we're at a fine spot)

[coral summit]

yep

[karmic gust]

yea thats a rip i guess

[onyx adder]

Look man

[coral summit]

with only two you could drop admonisher

but with three that aint happening

[cobalt blade]

unplayable build o7

[onyx adder]

Pob needs its big numbers

[coral summit]

i could run urgent orders but it's like

that breaks into 5 sockets

[onyx adder]

We are gonna echoes of creation 17 warcries

And we are gonna like it

[coral summit]

with 3 warcries+flammability+urgent orders

cant do that

but honestly it's not that bad imo

it's not giga reliant on the warcries for actual damage output in the way that a base phys weapon gets roided up by infernal cry

[fringe idol]

given that you can now 100% get penance brand of dissipation in 1 run do you think EB inquisitor starting Arma brand till later is viable?

[karmic gust]

does any of your stuff actually cost mana so you need the clarity with that ring

as thats ez socket save and tehn you could move 5 link to weapon

[coral summit]

no, the clarity is there specifically for tincture

[karmic gust]

with urgent i guess

[coral summit]

also that's a 1h axe

[cobalt blade]

- mana +flat mana regen from clarity

[coral summit]

cuz each mana burn stack is only 1.5 mana per second

[karmic gust]

ah low mana tincture

[surreal musk]

i am pretty sure u can get better boots/gloves than that with that level of investment it just dont look right , is there no way to make attributes work with abyss socket / tattoo adjustments

[karmic gust]

ok that makes more sense

[cobalt blade]

i do think gloves can be replaced as well

[coral summit]

cant fit abyss sockets

too socket hungry

[cobalt blade]

no shot accuracy is bis there

[surreal musk]

i mean on the gloves and boots.

[coral summit]

thats with blind on

[opaque wing]

My understanding is that QoL is for one of the crafts you get in like merc or later lab, not the generic always one. So You'd be arma brand until 3rd lab and runnnig it until you get it. That said that doesn't sound the worst, so sure, as long as you know how the EB inquis start goes already that seems a viable plan.

[cobalt blade]

hmmm

[coral summit]

without blind it's 96% hit chance, but i usually go by if unblind hit chance is higher than blind chance on hit it's fine

this setup specifically dropped three martial prowesses that made accuracy easier for voices LOL

There is a much easier way to do this but it has to drop adorned to do it.

since adorned stops being better than rare jewels

if it only fits like 4-5

[fringe idol]

I did it in the pherisa league as scion, I don't know how much different it is but I actually loved playing it, it was a TON of fun and probably a top 3 build I have ever played after it was online.

[coral summit]

if the league gives us a nice hits can't be evaded source it's gg

no need for any acc

[fringe idol]

I assume you start with dual obliterator

[coral summit]

The int can be a bit lower if I lower some gem levels, but dex can only be as low as str and str cant really go below like 159

so the gloves and boots end up being by far the easiest part to work with

just cuz they dont get much flex in terms of suffixes

and then cuz grey wind+eighty morbillion %life you just want double t1 life+hybrid life.

[surreal musk]

abyss socket

[cobalt blade]

abyss sockets require you to remove gems

[coral summit]

abyss sockets would require dropping like

frostblink or molten shell

[karmic gust]

also if you want to tank memory game and not be reliant on armour, why eve bother with 4th vow

that chest generally sucks anyway

compared to doppel

[coral summit]

dgg would be better for stuff like that

but with defiance at least in the majority of content the armour to chaos goes a lot further with fourth vow

[karmic gust]

i think your mitigation is good enough where the ehp difference doesnt rly matter

[coral summit]

and with basically no block that layer is how it kinda just avoids dropping below a certain % of hp

[karmic gust]

and you do get a lot of regen as well anyway

the 10% regen is pretty nice after all (and you have it perma up because of echoes)

[coral summit]

i guess they're kinda interchangeable depending on map mods

if it's a map mod that bricks armour then would 100% run dgg

does memory game still need to say more than 3 hits on pob to not die, or did they ever fix that

[tight plinth]

Dgg sounds like a rap group

[coral summit]

I think the bigger thing is that a lot? (not all, but a lot) of builds that tank memory game use immortal call to help with it

and immortal call cant mitigate chaos dmg

But yeah, it's kinda doomed from the getgo just cuz it also doesnt get two of its bigger mitigation layers

sap/fortify for that lol

[karmic gust]

well immortal call for ele doesnt rly scale either so your molten shell should be better at that anyway

[cobalt blade]

afaik its been fixed but not corrected in the mouse over

[silk scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn4hHGjVtkk

[wheat sinew]

mirage

we getting new mirage skills boys /s

[coral summit]

ic

but yeah, I don't mind that it cant tank that specifically since it still gets to eat everything else for fun except maybe ghosted feared stuff w/ certain ghost mods

[cobalt blade]

like my jugg tanks brain blast just barely with IC but pob only has memory game at 1.72 lol

and for memory games it never goes below half lol

[tired reef]

Hi, after Keepers, will the "BreachStone" rifts still be obtainable❓

[coral summit]

the what

[tight plinth]

Wdym

[opaque wing]

As far as we know, breachstones items will be gone, as they're not a part of the keepers version of breach

[wheat sinew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rdvum3/loot_from_13000_uber_shaper_runs/ 💀

[native token]

they drop from the tree

[cobalt blade]

do you mean the breach colonys

[coral summit]

thirteen thousand uber shapers

[compact rampart]

Anyone who did oshabi seal unleash mind telling me how it was

[coral summit]

what the HELL-

[dark sequoia]

Do I understand correctly that 'herald skills deal increased damage' and 'increased damage with herald skills' and 'damage while you have a herald' do NOT affect the damage of Herald of Ash?

[coral summit]

Those all should affect it

[tight plinth]

Quetzal is madlad

[hybrid harness]

is 13k enough to now that 1.8% is correct or could it still be 2%

[vale compass]

exile no longer sane

[coral summit]

heralds get scaled by most damage sources as long as they don't say by attacks or spells

[cobalt blade]

could still be 2% but its close enough

[golden moat]

without video evidence how can we trust this

[coral summit]

you can even scale them with minion damage w/ spiritual aid

[tired reef]

I'm referring to the Breach, those purple arms, that drop Splinters; by collecting 100 you can obtain a "Breachstone".

[coral summit]

Ohh yeah no those breachstones haven't existed since the start of Keepers

[gritty epoch]

95% confidence level that on 97% of the time the data conforms to 1.8% (I made them up)

[stoic horizon]

ggg released a post about what happens to breach in new league few days ago, go read up

[cobalt blade]

ah probably gone since that was old breach

[coral summit]

the breach specific items now come from either the genesis tree, or hive fortress/colony chests and boss

[tight plinth]

Im 99% sure thats not how that works 98% of the time

[dark sequoia]

PoB is saying spiritual aid does not scale it.
Yet is saying Berserker's 40% MORE does.

And saying cluster jewel 'damage while you have a herald' does not.
But ele focus does?

[warm musk]

Sorry it was all fake

[coral summit]

Berserker is 40% more generic damage

which applies to everything in the game

i'm not sure why spiritual aid doesn't work since it converts minion damage to generic damage

[stoic horizon]

so is spiritual aid

[tired reef]

Sorry for not explaining this well, I mean, will that mechanic from Standard still exist after Keepers ends? I know it doesn't exist in Keepers.
I'm just starting to work on that mechanic and it's quite difficult; I wouldn't want it replaced by something else.

[cobalt blade]

it will probably get removed in standard

[gritty epoch]

U mean breachstones?

[rough tulip]

no, old breach is gone as soon as keepers goes core

[dark sequoia]

I don't want to make a jank build and get lycia ascendancy only to find that, somehow, the herald node doesnt work on herald of ash

[stoic horizon]

again, ggg already made a statement on that, go find the post

[cobalt blade]

the old breachstones themself will still exist but theyll be unobtainable again if so

(most likely)

dont think they said those are being deleted in standard

[gritty epoch]

Legacy breachstones

[cobalt blade]

p much

[gentle ice]

i miss old breaches 😭 (more specifically breachstones) even tho it was boring, the xp was good and it was pretty fun to do them with flicker strike

[dark sequoia]

'Easy' way to test if herald of ash is affected by minion damage with spiritual aid would be using absolution of inspiring and speccing in and out of spiritual aid?

[karmic gust]

berserker shouldlnt scale it either i believe, because its base damage is based on overkill damage so the way it scales is probs to prevent double dipping

[coral summit]

i'm pretty sure elementalist flame golems already double dip

i remember the herald of ash numbers on my old slam elementalist being stupid as shit

back in 3.25

[karmic gust]

hoa not scaling with generic increases is also in pob changelog looks like so it looks very intentional in pob at least

[dark sequoia]

To my understanding, the only things that should scale it are literally 'damage over time' and 'burning damage'

But PoB is including some sources of elemental and global damage but not all

[warm musk]

How to calculate the damage taken from the Die Beam of sirus in pob?

[coral summit]

it would dot cap on the afterburn with only like a 3mil overkill

[tired reef]

Perfect, I like that mechanic, the bosses are super difficult, I haven't been able to beat them. 😅

[karmic gust]

support gems being exempt from the rule would make sense

because that cant double dip right

but other rthan that no clue

but based on the description you are right yes

and dot multi also

[cobalt blade]

theyll be legacy items so youll need to like buy them on standard console which lol gl

[empty bronze]

wtf

[coral summit]

sirus die beam is 4900 average damage, split 25/75 between phys and either fire, cold, or lightning

[empty bronze]

i just found out theres a shortcut in act 8

[coral summit]

so if your elemental mitigation is all the same

[empty bronze]

did anybody else know about this?

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Hidden_Underbelly

[cobalt blade]

yes

[rough tulip]

i think you might be the first one

[coral summit]

or 2900 phys+inflicts CB

[dark sequoia]

It's also saying 'increased damage with herald skills' from Empowered Envoy cluster notable does not apply to Herald of Ash.

Yet says More damage with herald skills from Farewell to Flesh does

[lucid gale]

I found that in the middle of the night at a league launch, amazing feeling of wondering if I was still sane, amazement in exploring something completely new.

[cobalt blade]

its 3 beams

[coral summit]

ye it hits 3 times, picks a random beam each time

[rough tulip]

very impressive there is a wiki page already for something just discovered

[cobalt blade]

one does 25/75 fire the other 25/75 cold and the third 25/75 lightning

p sure its always all 3

[coral summit]

he can pick pure phys as well

[karmic gust]

i think the inc damage with herald skills just doenst work properly in pob at all

[empty bronze]

apparently it was added in settlers league

i had no idea

[cobalt blade]

oh it can do a pure phys one?

funky

[coral summit]

these values dont include 70% more damage from unique monster rarity

[karmic gust]

but yea idk

[cobalt blade]

ive just always gotten shocked when not shock immune so assumed its each ele +the cb being applied

[coral summit]

but yeah if u have 0% phys reduction and 75 elemental res

[ember goblet]

guys whats everyones fav hideout

[karmic gust]

would have to test in game

[dark sequoia]

Also for some reason it's saying Unbound Avatar from Warden is working with herald of ash.

[cobalt blade]

celestial

and if i had it celestial nebula prob

[coral summit]

you take 1230 phys/1230 elemental damage per hit, 3 times

[tight plinth]

Aurora

[coral summit]

with a 1/4 chance of taking 2900 phys dmg

instead of phys/ele split

this is also assuming 0 suppression

918* ele dmg, not 1230

also doesnt include highrolls or crits

[karmic gust]

wildwood. i used baleful before but its literally impossible to fit in some of mtx map devices there

[coral summit]

or if you're shocked/affected by spinny beams

[karmic gust]

which is wild

but oh well

[dark sequoia]

This is frustrating.

I need to, what, use nightgrip and void manipulation (to have no damage range and no phys or ele) and try to see if unbound avatar is noticeable change to herald of ash

[crisp obsidian]

Wait till patchnotes I know but I kinda wanna just login pf sa into pf mamba

And farm feared

[coral summit]

give us uber feared GGG

[karmic gust]

surely they are buffing self cast this time for sure

[hard cliff]

what's the best ascendancy for blade blast?

[thick goblet]

im probably ssf starting gcf mines on either elem or scav

[dark sequoia]

What's the biggest single hit you can do?
Crushing Fist?
Discharge?

[coral summit]

tec slam of cataclysm

or discharge

[karmic gust]

well neither is close to vaal flicker

[coral summit]

ok but who actually plays vaal flicker

[hard cliff]

is that fixed now?

[karmic gust]

hey that wasnt the question :d

[coral summit]

what was wrong with it

[hard cliff]

people said it was not consuming end charges

this league

[crisp obsidian]

I wish 😭

[coral summit]

oh

[dark sequoia]

I don't think herald of ash will play nicely with vaal flicker

[coral summit]

well i have no clue

you don't need that much overkill damage to make herald of ash dotcap if you're playing an ignite build already

just don't run deadly ailments on your main skill

[hard cliff]

hey

do you want to see my build idea?

[coral summit]

if ur playing slam elementalist, fist of war plus other big slam supports w/ echoes and other stuff will get you to like 15-20 million slams on hit

lets see it 👀

[dark sequoia]

I was thinking of something like energy blade ignite eviscerate with ivory tower/lycia bloodline for life reserve.

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/vZVnQ2d.png @coral summit

[tight plinth]

Das not pob

[hard cliff]

This is the drafting phase

[coral summit]

i've got a build that's pretty close to what you were looking for back from 3.25

lemme go find it

[dark sequoia]

Or if HoA already dotcaps, just playing crushing fist energy blade (2h somehow?) and focusing on hit damage

[hazy kiln]

as far as I can tell it is fixed. there was a lot of confusion because what players were generally assuming was a gameplay bug [the endurance charge consumption interaction wasn't working] was actually a visual bug [the interaction wasn't occurring on the client but was correctly processed on the server]

so when we fixed the visual bug and patch noted it as such, people assumed there was still a gameplay bug present, when actually it seems like there was never a gameplay bug to begin with

[hard cliff]

Thank you for the extensive answer <3

[tight plinth]

Tomorrow league reveal yeah?

[hard cliff]

Wiki people please update the books

🎥

[tight plinth]

I should sleep now so day goes faster

[coral summit]

very very unoptimized but here https://pobb.in/lHmBxSAysk1S
theres also this dude that has done a shitton of ignite elementalist builds https://www.youtube.com/@prototypeb1256/videos @hard cliff

[ionic delta]

you know whats 3.29 gonna be

poe: dust 2

[crisp obsidian]

I want to know what 3.28 is

First

[dark sequoia]

Hey viper do you know if increased damage with herald skills applies to herald of ash since it is not burning damage or damage over time

[warm musk]

Any ideas why this happened? I had like 19 then after I wanted to change again

[hard cliff]

Yeah I know it's 100% better on elementalist 😩

[coral summit]

oh are u trying to do it on chieftain

or smth

[hard cliff]

Yes

[coral summit]

hmm

[hazy kiln]

not off the top of my head sorry, I just know that forced anti-double dipping stuff on HoA is miserable

[coral summit]

okay if you're doing chieftain i would straight up just go the grey wind lifestack route

[surreal musk]

gcf mines slept on way stronger than fanning

[dark sequoia]

ooof
thanks though

[coral summit]

and run like, dawnbreaker or something

[hard cliff]

Well that sounds fun

How hard is grey wind gonna be to get on leaguestart tho

[coral summit]

its the most common drop from breachlord bosses

it's like 40% drop rate per kill

so you rush your two stones then start running breaches

[dark sequoia]

I leaguestarted flame wall spellslinger warden this league and it was amazing but made of paper. :(

[hard cliff]

Flamewall spellslinger is CRAZY

[surreal musk]

if ur playing ignite attack ele , eblade or EE are just infintely superior to anything else

[coral summit]

so i don't think it should be that hard unless they annihilate the rate of getting hivebrain glands

[hard cliff]

Yeah 😩

[dark sequoia]

Maven Scorch Boots + Warden Scorch on a fire DoT wander is very fun

[hard cliff]

maybe I go chaos dot trickster or occultist

[coral summit]

but I would genuinely consider going berserker instead of chieftain for grey wind as well

[hard cliff]

How does that work

[coral summit]

because this line

[native token]

berserker earthshatter ❤️

[coral summit]

Each Rage also grants +2% to Fire Damage Over Time Multiplier
gets scaled by rite of ruin's 50% additional rage effect

so you go from 2% dot multi to 3% dot multi per rage

and you also get some MUCH needed attack speed to make it feel better

your overkill damage will also just be way higher for herald of ash

[dark sequoia]

Herald of Ash with Foulborn Rathpith...
But getting 80% increased per cluster jewel seems efficient.

[surreal musk]

foulborn prices next league pepelaugh

[coral summit]

so yeah you get like 52 rage and have 156% fire dot multi from rite of ruin.

[dark sequoia]

I don't want to lifestack unless I can use ivory tower because Lycia bloodline makes me want to reserve 99% of my life.

[coral summit]

on top of 78% more hit damage and 78% inc attack speed

this will offset grey wind being a pile of shit 1.3aps weapon

[dark sequoia]

Hmm...
Is there a way to automate flamewall without it feeling bad?

I have a dumb idea of like, battlemage's cry zerker with grey wind, ravenous passion, and flame wall.

With like, any projectile melee skill.

[cobalt blade]

cwdt flamewall

also battlemages cry can do it

[dark sequoia]

Zerker because double exerts

[gritty garnet]

I've put flame wall and sigil in svalinn before to pad dps

[dark sequoia]

Less damage hurts

[gritty garnet]

nobody uses flame wall for its own damage

[cobalt blade]

the less damage wont apply to projectiles passing thru the wall

[surreal musk]

a build where ur trying to do both spell fire dot and attack damage isnt gonna work

[dark sequoia]

I'm focusing on using the flame wall DoT

[cobalt blade]

holy

[dark sequoia]

Just using grey wind for the rage dot multi

Not life stacking at all

[karmic gust]

is that even better idea than just +level double dot multi weapon

[cobalt blade]

thats just worse than a dot multi wand

[surreal musk]

def not

[dark sequoia]

Zerker for 40% more, double exerts for battlemage cry trigger, and increased rage effect

And ravenous passion for rage damage applying to flame wall dot

[surreal musk]

this is what pob is for , make ur idea in pob and see its dps 😄

[gritty garnet]

I've used it on rf by picking up rage + warcry wheel (automate infernal cry + power for rage) instead of saving points for clusters

[dark sequoia]

tbh battlemage cry build sounds miserable

I made a cold dot zerker with the same concept using frost blades of katabasis as the trigger

[gritty garnet]

but it's barely any better than some random tree/ multimodded scepter

this was before going into the actual witch area for dot multi on tree

[hard cliff]

Is Imbalanced guard ever good ?

[coral summit]

nope

well it technically has use cases but you are never ever going to go out of your way to use it as your solution

because it will brick something else in that encounter

[dark sequoia]

its not good lad

[coral summit]

actually hmm grey wind probably not the greatest idea for ignite early on until like

[dapper parrot]

the impossible escape jewel for it is

[coral summit]

we find out if foulborn rathpith still exists LOL

cuz i think a generic phys stick with phys as extra fire would b better

at least early on

[hard cliff]

Does "Melee skills deal X More area damage"

[coral summit]

its just so hard to beat the elementalist package

[hard cliff]

does that affect my ignite 🤔

[coral summit]

_>

[hard cliff]

No ?

[dapper parrot]

ignite is based off hit dmg that proc'd it

[coral summit]

iii don't think pulverise affects it

yeah it doesnt

if it specifies more melee or area damage it doesnt scale the ignite

unless it also says attacks also do more damage with ailments

[hard cliff]

Yes

so true

[coral summit]

man now that im looking at these gloves/boots I really do wish there was more I could do with them lmao

having the suffixes hard locked kinda sucks

but i don't think I can get more damage out of any other amulet when it also gives me +max lightning res

[hard cliff]

Bro I just found the SICKEST unique for this build

[coral summit]

oh yeah foulborn belly of the beast

gives you max rage as well

[hard cliff]

FOULBORN ?!

Holy shit 12 rage

[coral summit]

it replaces all res with rage

but it's a pretty rare foulborn to begin with

[young estuary]

hey guys is the stream at noon pst on thursday? or 1pst?

[coral summit]

11am pst

2pm est

[young estuary]

ty<3

[coral summit]

It's also a pretty weak chest in terms of defense when you're already playing an archetype that leans on the squishier end

[lavish sand]

guys should start a build two handed melee or one im new at the game

[coral summit]

2h all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE5EXr4Fx0I

[normal hedge]

for further questions #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help would be the appropriate channel

[hard cliff]

@coral summit
https://pobb.in/tMpefmCzPP6g

[coral summit]

why the archdemon crown

[hard cliff]

I dunno I just grabbed a random es/armor helmet in pob

You could put auras in that tho

or the warcries

who knows

I dunno if this is even playable

feels like trying to rage stack + End charge stack at the same time is weird

[coral summit]

the big thing is that you need a way to recover endurance charges between attacks

[hard cliff]

I could prob also buy the exert helmet later

[coral summit]

cuz it deletes all of them at once

[rough tulip]

cool build, how do you plan to stay alive

[coral summit]

and you can't go ralakesh since it has to actually consume the charges

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/punch-yep-OpvUphysvKumQ

No 2nd attack needed

Just kill everything first hit

[rough tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-sesame-street-man-fainting-falling-faint-puppet-faints-gif-18818014

first dot u find

[coral summit]

so you need at minimum enduring composure, jugg notable, or end charge if you've been hit recently from elegant hubris

[tight plinth]

Have you considered retaliation for the skill?

[coral summit]

you cant rly leaguestart it

[hard cliff]

the endurance charges that I am spending to attack with and 200 energy shield divine shield

[coral summit]

:^)

[hard cliff]

🪦

[coral summit]

but yeah early on I was doing ground slam of earthshaking for ignite

[rough tulip]

i guess if you REALLY wanna show off your portal MTX

[hard cliff]

It's so over

https://giphy.com/gifs/graph-its-over-mixed-state-SrIyCbkmeCUNjMeKDp

[coral summit]

you can use a generic phys stick and go ice crash with cold to fire

and vatar of fire

avatar* of fire

[hard cliff]

To what end

[coral summit]

it gets you a bunch of phys as extra scaling

[hard cliff]

If I am playing ice crash again i am doing cadence

with the funny mace

[tight plinth]

Kevin hart funny or chapelle funny?

[coral summit]

cataclysm is unfortunately the most annoying slam in the game to build around LOL

[hard cliff]

I should just build it to kill stuff with and drop the ignite gimmick

[coral summit]

you legit have to build around getting charges back really fast or use it with general's cry

[hard cliff]

That's juggernaut in that case

End charge stacking

[coral summit]

general's cry is the usual way I see it built

[hard cliff]

Damn that's crazy

3 war cries

[coral summit]

because they will spawn in with max charges and do one big yeet>disappear

[hard cliff]

Busy

[coral summit]

they dont benefit from overexertion or other exerts

so you dont run echoes

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-wwe-wweraw-wweonnetflix-X6n12vrWC5GCcnpZFN

That's me and my boys

[finite quail]

That was fixed

[tight plinth]

You could ralakesh cata no? It doesnt need to spend end charges

[coral summit]

huh

[finite quail]

That no longer works

[hard cliff]

How do you get bodies for general cry tho

[coral summit]

what do you mean it was fixed

cataclysm gains damage for every charge it removes

[tight plinth]

Isnt that the intended mechanic of gen cry?

[coral summit]

it's not like flicker or cons path where it gains per charge you have

[finite quail]

it was unintended behavior that the generals cry things would get charges and consume them

from tsoc

[coral summit]

that's so fucking stupid wtf

[hard cliff]

Which slam fires a wave of stuff forward at enemies ?

[coral summit]

the skill is already borderline unplayable

it has 1.4k effectiveness if you remove TEN charges

which is already an insane level of investment

[hard cliff]

Hooooly shit let's goooooooooooooooo

[finite quail]

Wait hold on

I know I remember seeing that somewhere

[coral summit]

and now you need to somehow gain 10 charges back in between every attack

WHEREAS YOU JUST PLAY EARTHSHATTER

[finite quail]

I dont see it anymore in wiki

[coral summit]

AND HAVE LIKE 1.1K

WITHOUT ALL OVERLAPS

You can hit 4 overlaps pretty easily on a good number of bosses with earthshatter out of 6 and thats nearly 1.5k effectiveness

[tight plinth]

Thatd be weird if they did that specifically just for cata

[coral summit]

why would you nerf that interaction

[tight plinth]

They didnt

[gritty garnet]

tectonic slam of placebo

[hard cliff]

I have a stupid question

what does impale look like

can you even notice it

never played an impale build

[coral summit]

it doesnt rly have a visual effect, but it's ramping damage for getting decent numbers of hits

or you use woespike stuff

if u do 10k damage to an enemy, with no impale ffect by default it'll store 1k damage as an impale

and each hit you do after regardless of size will do an additional 1k impale damage for however many hits that impale lasts

default 5, up to 8

with +2 pride +1 on tree

[gritty garnet]

should be spikes and shit on the mob with the debuff but that could just be call of steel proccing

[tight plinth]

^

[coral summit]

o

i didnt even realize it had a visual LOL

[tight plinth]

There is some visual, but ots hardly noticeable after everything else on the screen

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/px255s32IEg

This looks really fun

[gritty garnet]

I do notice it on my character during deli which gives mobs impale sometimes

[hazy kiln]

one at the top is impaled

[hard cliff]

Thanks

[coral summit]

how on earth do u see the grey effects in deli LOL

grey on grey

[elfin spire]

does killing monsters in hive tower contribute to dilirium progress?

[elfin spire]

looks like no

[hard cliff]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1ll04do/326_slayer_ice_crash_of_cadence_all_content/

besides acquiring the gem this looks super easy

All your weapons early are cheap ass uniques too

then more expensive uniques

Not sure how I feel about running flame golem and animate guardian tho

Maybe I'll drop that and only have 90 million dps

[final owl]

whats wrong with golems

[coral summit]

if you arent playing elementalist they explode

really easily

and if they die they don't auto-resummon

and they have a decently high base mana cost

[hard cliff]

Animate guardian more of the problem but it can't die now so shrug

He also uses a weapon swap tech for end charges

we not doing that........

[tight plinth]

Golems on non elementalist is more than likely pob padding

[hard cliff]

"Use the RedBlade shield and Euduray warcry at the second weapon set, enter the map switch, and use the warcry, then switch back"

[final owl]

oh thats fair i'm too lazy for swap shenanigans

[hard cliff]

I honestly mostly just hate the sfx

this is a crazy weapon combo

Wombo combo

[surreal musk]

https://pobb.in/XmS1B_yyVGvI memes

[hard cliff]

This was my last build in keepers league

You got me beat on dps tho

[coral summit]

oye redblade banner also doesnt work that way anymore iirc

o wait it does still have infinite power

is2g redblade got changed semi recently

OH no it just does something different in poe2 that's what I was thinking of

[hard cliff]

INFININITY

SCALING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn4hHGjVtkk

Cool stuff

[neon veldt]

if horizon orbs and kirac missions are gone, what the fuck is happening to the atlas

42hours until reveal

aaaaaa

[final owl]

things. things are happening to stuff. possibly many things and many stuffs.

[surreal musk]

new faustus tab for map related items

🙂

[stone cloak]

God im forced to play poe 1

so sad

cant wait for poe 2

oh fk wrong chat

[empty bronze]

fun fact

you can rotate people in your mind

[ember goblet]

i literally

have a math exam

during ggg live

😭 😭

[coral summit]

idt they're gone

[hazy kiln]

😭

[coral summit]

i think they just moved them to a different part of the UI

[hazy kiln]

vod will be on youtube later

(I know it's not the same)

[coral summit]

because horizons are kind of important for early map progression

[normal hedge]

you can do it again next semester

[ember goblet]

can you guys send me ggg live 2 hour early just for me 🥺🥺🥺

[hazy kiln]

no 🙁

[coral summit]

dont suppose we can get any word on if horizons are actually gone since you're around viper, or did they just get shuffled down further on the UI?

or is that spoilers

[hazy kiln]

that would also be tricky for the Q&A part since it's literally live lol

[hazy kiln]

no comment sorry, if something happened you'll find out in the stream/patch notes!

[coral summit]

fair enough

[ember goblet]

nocom

https://tenor.com/ouTxNZsgRJT.gif

[coral summit]

either way it should be fine, i believe in GGG

:>

[hazy kiln]

:>

[tidal river]

Buff Stormbind

[opaque wing]

Knowing is unfun, we need 2 days of panic speculation just to be shown that they moved them down the UI. The panic speculation can get so wild!

[silver geyser]

Poe 1 has gold now? I searched for a video on YouTube explaining how it was introduced into the game and what its purpose is but couldn't find anything.. all of the search results were about farming strategies. Can someone explain to me how gold came to be a currency in the game and what it is used for?

[ember goblet]

thats it. im playing poe2

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[drowsy eagle]

Kingsmarch, trading fees, and gambling

[final owl]

gold came in in settlers

[opaque wing]

It was added in Settlers of Kalgur league, used for that leagues mechanics, and later expanded to be used for Async trade and Currency Exchange

[coral summit]

what kiser said yeah

it exists as a tax basically for certain mechanics

[silver geyser]

Async trade. Interesting. So is crafting currency no longer the meta medium of exchange?

[coral summit]

It still is

[cobalt blade]

you cant trade gold

its just used as friction for trading

[coral summit]

but you get taxed a certain amount of gold that just gets deleted to do instant trades of any type

[silver geyser]

Ahhh

[opaque wing]

No, think of gold as a gameplay time tax, where as orbs are still used as actual currency for trades

[coral summit]

so that bots can't just do infinity trades a second

all the time

[empty bronze]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Gold

[silver geyser]

So async is penalized versus traditional live trade. Got it. That seems fine

[coral summit]

It's not a significant penalty if you actually play the game

[final owl]

nobody uses live trade anymore

[coral summit]

as long as you aren't doing content that gives you 0 gold

[cobalt blade]

its barely a penalty so noone actually uses traditional search outside of hc trade

[silver geyser]

This is a shame

[final owl]

I can sort of see why you might feel that way. But I don't really agree with the sentiment

[coral summit]

if you do certain map blasting strats you end up with way, way more gold than you can ever use.

[normal hedge]

no, this is the future

[empty bronze]

i do sometimes

[silver geyser]

It was one of the few mechanics forced player to player interaction

[empty bronze]

like my standard characters are broke lmao

[coral summit]

unless you dump it into kingsmarch or gamba it all away at faustus

[empty bronze]

so if i wanna test stuff i gotta trade the old way

[cobalt blade]

kingsmarch is basically the only way you could run outta gold yeah

[tidal river]

Also forced to waste alot of people's time

[coral summit]

even with kingsmarch you can print more gold than you use

[empty bronze]

old trade wasnt fun interaction

[cobalt blade]

i just sit on 1-2m always in inv everything else goes into kingsmarch to not worry about that though

[empty bronze]

it was dming 30 people and getting ignored

[final owl]

the downsides of live trade far exceeded the upsides. async is a straight upgrade.

[ember goblet]

people use it to see how many times they get pinged in game for things they dont know how to price

[coral summit]

if you do strats that capitalize a lot on added packs+magic pack size you end up with legit like 2 million gold an hour

[cobalt blade]

i got the odd fun interaction where people would ask why i have so many replica dream feathers or some other unique listed

from mass templing

[coral summit]

haaaa yeah thats gonna be me this league

[final owl]

I know technically people still use it, like the knobs who for some reason seem to get an ego boost out of being the lowest listing if you forget to switch to only instant trade.

[coral summit]

i'm gonna DESTROY the market for a few items

[cobalt blade]

alot of those are price fixers

[final owl]

sure that seems obvious

[coral summit]

font of thunder? goodbye
echoes of creation once i start fishing for 90% reservation? goodbye
tempering orbs once i start going for temple corrupts on grey wind? GOODBYE

[cobalt blade]

hope someone isnt using woke trade >price checks on site >defaults to non instant trade >person prices at x chaos on instant you snipe it

[coral summit]

i dont even want to think about how many tempering orbs i'm going to eat

[tranquil umbra]

font of thunder oh no are you doing the evil fucked up conversion

[coral summit]

on the quest for fortify and +attack speed

[ember goblet]

i want to make mirrors early and then instead of buying gear i just control the market of like 2 scarabs singlehandedly

[coral summit]

with 10% increased fire modifiers

[cobalt blade]

if you dont need 15% its not too bad even mass templing

tbh

[coral summit]

50% lightning 50% chaos yup

[cobalt blade]

also can axes get fort as a corrupt?

[coral summit]

yep

they can

[cobalt blade]

Funky

Thought it was just sword

[coral summit]

one hand has melee hits have chance to fortify

2h is socketed gems are supported by fortify

[cobalt blade]

ahh right

[coral summit]

the sane alternative is to run fortify support for a long long time

and just eat the 20% less dmg

compared to another support.

[cobalt blade]

steal fortitude from champ

[coral summit]

(which is what I will be doing)

[cobalt blade]

[coral summit]

cant do that, playing zerker

[cobalt blade]

well skill issue or something

[coral summit]

and i gotta steal infinite warcry power from chieftain

but yeah i specifically need the 10% one, not 15%

8% increased doesnt hit breakpoint from 12>13% of life as added fire, 15% has downsides my build can't use

[cobalt blade]

ye 10's reasonable gl

[coral summit]

-3 sockets is a brick and 200% increased attribute requirements is a brick

3 green/3 blue sockets are also bricks lmao

[empty bronze]

i think this league is gonna be swamp themed

[finite quail]

Are you sure

[coral summit]

so i specifically need either all sockets are red or reduced speed modifier magnitudes

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-cat-pat-cat-cat-pat-love-cat-gif-8327343031414150876

[empty bronze]

yaaaay

[finite quail]

Get petted get petted get petted get petted

[simple stag]

yeah that obviously only increases light radius. But then you can't use wreath of phrecia so worthless. /dismiss

[finite quail]

rf dog

[north cypress]

may I ask, regarding holy relic build, with dialla chest, ideally I want 1 green socket to put holy relic in, and the remaining 5 should all be red for the +2 right?

[sleek barn]

depends on the support gems

best to pob it

[cobalt blade]

i think its green for everything other than empower? most of the time

support quality better than support levels

[north cypress]

oh you're right, 30 quant seems ways better than +2 for support gems

does empower benefit from a red socket?

[cobalt blade]

yeah +2 to empower is +2 to your main skill

and i think hroc ran that

[north cypress]

basically 1 red 5 green is bis

[sleek barn]

best to pob it

[tight plinth]

if my gamepad has rapidfire built in, would that be breaking tos?

[ember goblet]

uh

probably slightly

scroll clicking is fine because 1 scroll = 1 click

[signal hawk]

if you do it too quickly they will dc you

too many actions per second kinda stuff

[finite quail]

as long as its one action per one input, should be fine

But if you're pressing once and doing multiple actions, thats a no no

[final owl]

how on earth would they even be able to tell

[tight plinth]

by the amount of time between actions

[spice pecan]

170% quant eternal conflict legion

[tight plinth]

a whole stack of jewellers

[spice pecan]

this map also had a reflecting miss and a nameless 1cer

apparently perandus signet is 7c

[drowsy eagle]

why portal scrolls before wisdoms

[final owl]

how would this look any different to just mashing loads of buttons simultaniously

[tight plinth]

it will always be a consistant amount of time

[final owl]

we actually think they are running PoE client inputs through some kind of captcha?

[tight plinth]

i dont know, youre asking me how they can tell

[spice pecan]

because yes

[final owl]

It's trivially easy to add randomised delay to automated actions

[spice pecan]

that's not how turbo controllers work though

the only delay you'll get from an autofire function would have to do with the polling rate of the controller

[opaque wing]

The game is played all server side, they get all your inputs live yes.

[onyx adder]

This is one of those things where u can technically get banned and if u do ur not allowed to complain

[tight plinth]

im not gonna discuss how to bypass tos lol

[onyx adder]

But ive never heard of anyone getting banned for it

Cant talk about it more because sometimes mods get mad

[final owl]

i mean of course they do the game does not work if that isn't the case. I mean running it through some kind of "non-human input detection" algorithm specifically

[spice pecan]

but also i can't even see where a turbo controller would be beneficial in poe at all

its not like you need to mash through dialog

[obsidian atlas]

I don't know anyone who smokes that died from lung cancer

[onyx adder]

Fwiw mashing the button for fuses is much faster than the automatic button hold

Like 2x faster

[spice pecan]

until the polling rate fucks you over and it slows to a crawl

but sure

[onyx adder]

Still much much faster than the auto hold

[spice pecan]

wait

oh yeah no you don't have to put a dpad input between each fusing nvm

[tight plinth]

how you get all charges to be the same maximum again?

slayer node and which?

[finite quail]

badge of the brotherhood

[tight plinth]

then you stack max pc right?

[spice pecan]

yes

[lofty portal]

So guys, Poe or resident evil 9?

[final owl]

how long does the RE9 season last

oh that's right it doesn't have one

[spice pecan]

since when does uber cortex give random headhunter?

am i dumb?

[lofty portal]

The re9 story will get spoiled overtime

[final owl]

I guess I am aware that technically resident evil games have a story

Err.. PoE is my choice if that isn't obvious. I couldn't care less about game story spoilers

[opaque sphinx]

what if instead of all these changes, faustus moved ur mouse automatically to the text box when u went to search for something

[hexed mountain]

Spawns rares between bosses

[sick ocean]

What is Faustus doing in my room?

[spice pecan]

yeah i'm not wearing headhunter

i just didnt realize that apparently the map can straight up give it to you as a mod

[onyx adder]

Since forever, its a synth map mod

Do u ppl not read uber cortex mods or something

[spice pecan]

no?

[opaque sphinx]

yerp

[spice pecan]

why would you?

it's cortex lol

[onyx adder]

I guess its month 4

[final owl]

re-read this sentence. you know the answer

[onyx adder]

Cortex is probably the fight in poe that difficulty depends the most on map mods

[opaque sphinx]

yh but u cant see them till ur already in it

[onyx adder]

Its squashy but wrong mods means it can just delete a lot of builds randomly

[spice pecan]

don't think i've ever run into that but i suppose

don't remember the last time i died in a synth map or cortex

[opaque sphinx]

and at that point u dont rlly have choice, u justa gotta do it regardless

[spice pecan]

but i guess it could have reflect or shit

[opaque sphinx]

if ur hc i can see reading them, or if the fight is drastically harder and kills u

[tight plinth]

how many times have you tried searching for something and it opened the mtx ui?

[opaque sphinx]

every fuckin time dude

[onyx adder]

One presumes he is, in fact, already in it

[onyx adder]

If u dont read that cortex has aoe and eat a giant boss slam and die u probably deserve it

[tight plinth]

idk why i think its default that you can search, when no other window is like that in poe i think

but every time, i search without clicking the searchbox

[opaque sphinx]

well ye thats what i mean, unless u randomly die u dont even bother reading them

[spice pecan]

the aoes/slams from cortex charge up for 30 years, if you die to one ever it's because your monitor wasn't turned on

[opaque sphinx]

sc players dont care much about anything until its apparent that thing is an issue

[spice pecan]

like one of the golem slams legit winds up for like five entire seconds

and puts a big blue circle on the ground for that entire duration

[opaque sphinx]

the only move that ever gets me is the balls

cuz i think i can facetank when i cannot facetank

if ur standing on the fat mofo when he starts spinning that shit chunks

[onyx adder]

Cortex can also roll turbo obvs

[final owl]

I would go as far as to say that's the entire point of SC

[onyx adder]

Double turbo even

Its not an issue when u can evaporate the fight but absolutely its better to read mods lul

[earnest raven]

🤔

[final owl]

the secret development name for PoE before release was danger balls

[opaque sphinx]

the move where he sticks his arms out n spins

if ur standing on his face it hurts real bad

[primal shuttle]

wats a good currency farming strategy, i always just do maps randomly and dont rly think about it

[opaque sphinx]

any that u enjoy

pick one and go

[elfin spire]

damn, second deli boss cooks me so hard, i can't get past wave 8

[opaque sphinx]

simulacrum checklist:
5m dps+
ailment immune
crit immune
recovery on hit/block or just really high dmg avoidance
aoe

[elfin spire]

i'm not getting to 5mil any time soon, hell naw

[opaque sphinx]

then ur not beating simulacrum any time soon, hell naw

its endgame content above pinnacles for a reason

[onyx adder]

U dont actually need any dps to complete simu if all u want is the bloodline or whatever

Mobs stop spawning after a set time

Few mins i forget exactly its prolly on the wiki

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but dont u need to kill the bosses still

[onyx adder]

U just need to not die 6 times and u need enough dps to not fail to kosis

[opaque sphinx]

regular mobs despawn but not them?

[onyx adder]

U need enough dps to not hard fail to kosis as he has an es recharge mechanic

Which is a low floor but does exist

[opaque sphinx]

i mean valid

the rest of the checklist still applies tho

i guess u can cut aoe too if u have tank cuz of the despawn shit

[onyx adder]

Yea

If ur just super tanky u can do simus u just wont earn any $

[wintry lily]

me when doing cws chieftain before having the gear for more dmg and wondering why the sim has been going on for 20 minutes :

[onyx adder]

20 minutes still gets u ur bloodline tho if thats what u want

If ur farming it then yea its horrendous

Lul

Ur 2 reward waves

[mortal veldt]

what would they have to do to make bows good?

[final owl]

give bows skills that are good?

[surreal musk]

remove the flat damage on most bow attacks but increase their damage effectiveness by 2-3x

[steel light]

100% reflect, rarely a build specs for it since it takes 5 nodes and a minor patheon, or recovery/leech

[coral summit]

Do you need to do the full heist questline of a unique contract to run one you bought from someone else?

[steel light]

think no

[onyx adder]

Bows are fine for what theyre supposed to do atm imo

Theyre just not wands so why play bows when wands exist after last patch

[final owl]

I had this weird idea each weapon archetype should have multiple options for skills viable late game

[surreal musk]

wands didnt get buffed last patch

they got some new skill gems that were bad other than fussilade

anda new base type which is also bad

[tranquil umbra]

can we get a dot multi base wand thank you

[steel light]

why nubs don't do invig 🙂

[tranquil umbra]

cooked

[steel light]

went past well done to congratulation

[umbral crag]

Doesnt look that bad at all

[steel light]

they walked past cws

[warped stone]

Yea pls or like already have the search field active so you just type into it instant when opening… or it can go back to where you previously were/or have a whole tab be favourite

[heavy charm]

Anyone can screenshot the current currency exchange?

[onyx adder]

Sure but kboc in particular got a lot of buffs both directly to the skill and indirectly via good foulborns for mana stacker being available, buffs to grace of the goddess, and via runegraft of refraction

I didnt know this until i looked but a lot of kboc players seem to like wall of force on top of tornado too

[steel light]

imagine opening something with search box, and u have to click onto it or ctrl + f before u can type in a search 🚮

[hexed mountain]

Kboc was OP last league already

KF came out OP

[keen veldt]

nado graft too

[onyx adder]

It was a good skill at higher budget absolutely

[hexed mountain]

Not really a buff problem. Bows been shit for a while

LS been taking all the bow user base for a while

[gritty garnet]

people also spellslinger hydrosphere but it's more opportunity cost without daughter of oshabi

[hexed mountain]

Mostly seen tornado slinger personally

(and warpslinger on KF which is hilarious to play)

[keen veldt]

seems hard to squeeze since kboc is mana stack generally no?

[onyx adder]

This is much more common

[hexed mountain]

Kboc is max mana damage

[final owl]

tornado warp slinger is a good time. feels good.

[hexed mountain]

Not max unreserved

So its very worth to reserve tornado

Feels a lot more consistent damage boost than for KF due to tiny tornado duration

[keen veldt]

tornado yes, but + hydro is harder, I was just trying to stay above 5k unreserved for hierophant cloak etc

[gritty garnet]

yeah it's entirely possible for your tornado to expire before your first projectile hits if cursor is far away

[onyx adder]

Kboc doesnt run hydrosphere at all due to slot pressure, regular kb can run it alongside tornado

[gritty garnet]

hence the lightning warp so you're right on top

[hexed mountain]

Yeah on my KF warden i ran warp and tornado but had the tornado slinger as hotkey and only activated it for bosses

To have more mana available to warp during mapping

[gritty garnet]

I did gem swap warp into hydrosphere when I didn't want to teleport into shit

[hexed mountain]

Also fleetfoot wheel during mapping sessions. So fun with warp

[keen veldt]

for kf I just ran hydro cus tele was dangerous and nado on controller is aids

only ever is 1cm in front of your char

[hexed mountain]

Really hoping they dont murder KF

Such a fun skill

[onyx adder]

They tend to murder skills that are strong very early

Skills good only late tend to get a pass unless theyre oppressive

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but here there is quite the opportunity cost

[hard cliff]

what do you run kinetic ballista on?

[onyx adder]

So i expect kf to get wrecked and kboc to probably stay as is

[hexed mountain]

Warden is love warden is life

Oath of spring is just too strong

With the number of hits from KF

[bold scarab]

No

[hexed mountain]

Was legit ramping to 100 under one second

[gritty garnet]

yeah I was considering getting a pair since they're like 3 div tops

[bold scarab]

Besides you would go deadeye to get more proj and terrain bouncy

[tranquil umbra]

I wish for unspeakable terror to befell kinetic spells

[keen veldt]

it’s not the Poe ninja topping ff (heavy amm) but it’s quite good

poeninjamaxxing

[hexed mountain]

Tinctures legit quadruple my damage

And oath with replica heatdhiver then more than double on top

[bold scarab]

lol

[hexed mountain]

The damage isnt even in the same realm

As deadeye

Warden has no defences but is more than double damage over every other asc for KF

[steel light]

does delirum orb (scarab) drop follows the rule regarding scarab type being blocked off?

[karmic gust]

i dont think anyone is playing KF on deadeye

its mostly elementalist because elementalist actually also provides defense

on top of damage

and defense is what you dont have

[gritty garnet]

the defense is flicking your cursor and warping out of the way of aoe

[keen veldt]

league start elementalist kf gonna be ridiculous levels of comfort and zoom

[tranquil umbra]

but you must remember
the best defense is overwhelming offense

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but i prefer having much more damage and better position on tree (without IE i mean, with IE witch is fine)

[steel light]

8%
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers?skills=Kinetic+Fusillade&sort=dps

[tranquil sedge]

i hope we get a buff to normal (not trans) poisonous concoction lol, in terms of fewer charges used again or something like how it used to be

that skill is functionally useless as soon as you get pconc of bouncing

and only coz they gutted how it works in terms of charges

[karmic gust]

that is basically nobody

[gritty garnet]

concoctions but in the shape of hammers

[tranquil sedge]

asd hoping for holy concoction?

[karmic gust]

there is no way they arent nerfing KF early

its way too busted

[prime hill]

damn I actually sleept after I said that

[hexed mountain]

Im fine that few people touch warden KF. Going to be effortlessly first on dps ladder again

[prime hill]

and we got the reveal 3 hours after I sleept

[final owl]

how is KF busted? it just seems pretty decent. on oshabi it was just like flickerstrike with control if you want it

[tranquil sedge]

small but nice qol

i liked the lab one the most

[karmic gust]

i dont think many skills come close in the damage and clear while leveling to KF

[prime hill]

but eventually we all need to have a full rest day after struggling with 4-5 hours per day sleep

[hexed mountain]

I was at close to 100M dps on SSF gear, wirh full screen clear and lightning warp on attack

[karmic gust]

later its pain in the ass as it doesnt rly scale

[prime hill]

div card qol, pog

[tranquil sedge]

we'll just say we got it coz you went to sleep as is the tradition

[karmic gust]

because of gearing requirements

[final owl]

i don't think that's inherently a problem? unless you were doing that with crap gear that took you no effort to obtain

[tranquil umbra]

that is when you swap to kb or kboc

[hexed mountain]

I have a warden pob on balista KF level 80 with no items except a white wand to enable the skill doing 2.5M dps.

[tranquil umbra]

yes we get it

[steel light]

@tranquil sedge other than shrines node what gives magic/rare packs without needing scarabs?

[hexed mountain]

(level 20 gems tho) which you wouldnt have yet level 80

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno

[steel light]

u've failed me

[tranquil sedge]

all the answers that came to mind involved scarabs lol

[tranquil sedge]

guess im never getting a green name then sadge

[steel light]

no vouch for u

[crisp obsidian]

When will GGG make an actual spell ascendancy, like they have made attack ascendancies

One can hope right

[tranquil umbra]

Scavenger

[hexed mountain]

They should rotate ascendancies every league

[tranquil umbra]

you will play eblade

[hexed mountain]

We have 6 per class

We could just do rotations

No elementalist next league

[split maple]

"insufficient mana does not prevent you from casting spells" with 7 empty travel nodes in front

[crisp obsidian]

We have 6 per class but still 0 spell ascendancies is funny

[crisp obsidian]

Xddddd

Would be toptier

Asc

[hexed mountain]

Less than 48h till scavenger reveal

[crisp obsidian]

Less than 48h till GGG wins goty

[hexed mountain]

Poe3 anouncement when

[crisp obsidian]

I still find it funny that PoE is not part of this ever

[karmic gust]

should games that dont function without being updated even be included in that category

[prime hill]

elementalist had its time

😔

[hexed mountain]

Game awards are a meme at best anyway

[crisp obsidian]

Idk dota 2 has been part of it for 5 years and I am pretty sure that game would die faster than PoE w/o updates

But also funny BG3 won that months after final patch

"to this day" my ass

[karmic gust]

ah, yea that doesnt make sense at all then

[final owl]

do people seriously actually care about game awards of any kind. if so, why

[hexed mountain]

Devs do it seems. Its all devs jerking each other off

[prime hill]

lol

dota's not gonna die faster than poe without updates

unless you mean 150k player count means death of the game

[final owl]

dota2 has been safely sitting near the top of steam player counts for donkeys years

[prime hill]

and dota had its no proper patch times aswell

and its gonna get worse with icefrog mainly working on deadlock

[dapper ridge]

Game Awards has lost its prestige just like every other award show

[crisp obsidian]

I would consider a game to be in a dying state if it bled from 700k to 150k players

[final owl]

if the mobas die it's just because they failed to get a new generation of players into the game(s)

[prime hill]

dw

[dapper ridge]

That's mostly how modern gaming is

[prime hill]

LoL turned into a full on mobile game

[north cypress]

if it dies, it dies

[prime hill]

so anyone who doesnt want an arcadey moba experience just plays dota now

[dapper ridge]

Cater to the new gen, forget about the players you already have

[grave vine]

You get this new mtx for free id you have bad frames

[steel light]

only when the games i like won something

[crimson spear]

I'm excited to be getting the new league announcement and Pokemon Presents 2026 on back-to-back days

[remote sparrow]

But also means more deadlock updates

[prime hill]

good

cs and dota community don't deserve anything tbh

[rapid star]

Guys this build has me wearing this body armor but it requires level 45

[remote sparrow]

I like Dota 2 ok but deadlock is Just so peak THE MOVEMENT, so crisp

[remote sparrow]

And what issue your not Elon lvls mean nothing lol

[mental violet]

uh oh reddit knowns something

[rapid star]

It is when ur not a high enough level to use it

[onyx adder]

Im not adhd enough for deadlock, it looks awesome tho

[remote sparrow]

Ah sooooo ya need to power level using other leveling skills to that point

[tight plinth]

light mode reddit

[rapid star]

Wum

Wym

[remote sparrow]

I am 31, but I am that ADHD It tickles all of my flashing lights and arcade shooter needs feels like a new school take of a quake shooter

[remote sparrow]

Like I am going to play a niche wander next leauge using gladiator but its a awful leveling build so I am going to level as a smite strike build untill I can respec later on

[junior otter]

Not to be ungrateful but why are they bothering with these acts changes

[loud geyser]

yay 1 more day

[junior otter]

I don't know if I've ever intentionally entered the act 8 sewer sections

Barely ever bother to open the flask box in act 1

[loud geyser]

prob cuz acts are tutorials to actual game

[junior otter]

Never go into the inner sections of the cliff edge map after sunken cave

[loud geyser]

so new players get an idea of whats to come

normal players usually play as they normally do

[surreal musk]

going thru underbelly is the campaign meta now

[short prairie]

Dayum

Stream is 3am China time

[junior otter]

Really? What does it skip

[short prairie]

[surreal musk]

imperial fields and promenade

[junior otter]

Hm

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-id expected a lot worse from impending ngl, i might play it next league if they nerf wand memes

[surreal musk]

kill gemling legion > underbelly > drop port at intersection in underbelly > solar 1 wp > town>portal > lunaris 1 wp , drop portal in bath house near yugal on way

[short prairie]

Deartbeam the true ranger lover

[remote sparrow]

Don't you need awakend spell cascade to really make it pop?

[candid moon]

Impending Doom mentioned

[karmic gust]

also any idea how the 20% chance to not consume affect dps?

[short prairie]

Doesn’t that mean 20% dps increase

[karmic gust]

you go from 2 to 3 overlaps so you just need to get more cast speed before that if i understand the skill correctly

[surreal musk]

what if you get lucky and proc it 9999 times in a row

[brazen vector]

Why infernal blades?

[karmic gust]

i just needed dagger

[brazen vector]

Ah

[karmic gust]

and other rdagger implicits are useless

[remote sparrow]

So its like a 30% more multiplier?

[karmic gust]

in that pob i go from 10.33 to 9.58 triggersr

so not even depeds on your cast speed i think

[karmic gust]

well no clue :d maybe?

[remote sparrow]

I really enjoyed it when I played it YEARS ago but I thought they "removed" the interaction with the gloves and it is ni longer playable?

[karmic gust]

they nerfed the overlaps i believe

as before you could scale the aoe and get all of them

[candid moon]

I havent played in a while, but my assumption would be that it does nothing if you have perfect cast speed and cdr ratios already?

[short prairie]

We shall call you rangerbeam from now on

[remote sparrow]

Pathfinder defense is allways sick with flasks and petrified blood full hp interactions

[karmic gust]

yea, it would depend on how often you are casting while on cd

i think

but then technically you can just grab more cast speed

to get damage out of it

[candid moon]

Could you? If it's off timing it could be net negative. Kinda requires maffs

[remote sparrow]

Its at end of day a pfinder poision prolif build thou right?

[karmic gust]

well ID has charges so off timing shoulnt matter that much

[karmic gust]

yea just pf poison build

[remote sparrow]

Essentially its similar to CoC you can optimize it but it will still work even if its a "unoptimal" not mathed out ver

[karmic gust]

or at least in pob im getting dps from random cdr mostly in linear way even though in normal trigger setup i would be hitting breakpoints

so idk whats up with that

but i assume its right

[onyx adder]

Surely u cant leaguestart it tho

[hexed mountain]

i mean you can just start pconc

[remote sparrow]

Or Toxic rain

[karmic gust]

yea i would only play it after getting doedres

[candid moon]

That was the meta back in Tota for ID till you get gloves

[karmic gust]

also shako is only like 25% dps increase over doedres so thats pretty nice, no need to aim for it

[onyx adder]

Yea thats what i meant

[short prairie]

How your ranger always have 40k phys max hit while mine always have 4K

[onyx adder]

Not the literally can u play it from level 1

The oh shit i started ID and foulborn doedres is now super hard to get

[onyx adder]

Its just PB progenesis

[karmic gust]

yea that pob doesnt even have endus :d