1┃general

[cobalt blade]

/more exclusive loot

[hexed mountain]

it would be more fun with a more roguelike feel tho yes

[onyx adder]

Yea

some content has too much exclusive loot

Multiple types of exclusive loot even

[cobalt blade]

other content doesnt drop whats meant to be its exclusive loot

[onyx adder]

And some content has 0 or has had it all cannibalized by other mechanics

[split maple]

wdym fossils arent simul exclusive loot

[gleaming gulch]

Scouting reports are gone… im broken

[solar smelt]

I like that they're adding more to the campaign, but I fear a lot of players will just ignore it cause of the "gotta go fast mentality"

[onyx adder]

Delve is resonators only smh try to keep up

[dusty mesa]

And blight

[cobalt blade]

cant forget the synths basically being ritual loot

[split maple]

harvest you mean

[frigid wedge]

and a bucnh of delve only modifiers

[dusty mesa]

Blighted maps give me more fossils actually

[frigid wedge]

and fossils

[native abyss]

guys the teaser

[cobalt blade]

harvest isnt looting it though

[hard cliff]

when you have played the campaign 7468 times that's gonna be a normal response

[past mantle]

It's fine, they already did some additions before and it was a lot of really useful stuff and some that people skipped.

[split maple]

i think simuls should be more fossil/h than ravageds but i rly didnt run much ravageds

[cobalt blade]

beastcrafting for good synths though yea

[onyx adder]

The whole joke is delve isnt for fossils smh

[past mantle]

Chemist's box is goated.

[cobalt blade]

ravaged is more if you can do sped up ones afaik

[dusty mesa]

They’re pretty comparable

But yea I think blighted maps are more actually

[past mantle]

GGG, give me an actually difficult Sanctum without needing a 300d relic and the good sanctum runners can get 40d/h for the rest of their lives every league if they want.

[cobalt blade]

(specifically sped up ones without reduced tower cost so you still get all the lucky chests)

so your actual build needs to be capable of clearing

[dusty mesa]

Blighted maps are actually the most free money in the game

I’ve had my biggest synth hits from blighted actually

[past mantle]

Add an option that sends your character to the void also if they die in sanctum but gives more loot.

[onyx adder]

Meanwhile certain shit mechanics get tattoos AND runegrafts

That u cant get anywhere else

[solar smelt]

I wonder if the mobs that give you tattoos now reset and give you them again if you reset the area

[cobalt blade]

maybe we can pray tattoo campaign drop means no more kingsmarch and they just become a baseline drop

[past mantle]

They won't become baseline.

[onyx adder]

GGG economic protectionism smh

[coral summit]

I keep forgetting that they moved divine blessing to be march of the legion only

maaan

I miss divine blessing being a normal support lol

[bronze falcon]

I heard loot bad. Im in

[cobalt blade]

not with that attitude

[gentle ice]

depends what are the changes to the campaign 👀 , chemist box is pretty good, tattoo one they showcased might be pretty good too, if the changes are on the way and you don't have to do a sidequest to access it like for example the vault in reliquary i think they might be worth it

[thick goblet]

most likely not, most (maybe all?) campaign secrets are once per character

[onyx adder]

Tattoos and runegrafts are things that from a balance perspective should absolutely be somewhere else, at least one of the two

[past mantle]

That patch that added the chemist box also added the fairgraves shortcut.

I'm certain there'll be 2 or 3 things that are just nice like that.

[bronze falcon]

Bring temple to PoE1, break the economy in 1 week

[past mantle]

Think they got up to like act 3 with those changes and that's about it? So they're just continuing that.

[onyx adder]

Id be willing to bet theres at least one person on the writing team fighting the developers on it tho because its flavorfil or some garbage

[bronze falcon]

That shiz nutty

[split maple]

👀

[past mantle]

My hero.

[tribal ridge]

No harbi/horizon orbs or scouting reports on currency exchange in the teaser

[frigid wedge]

esm how do i convince myself to play rn

[onyx adder]

Thanks, i get that from a lot of ppl

[past mantle]

Oh damn.

[lucid gale]

Morning, crew. I see we eat well today

[past mantle]

Zao I need one more item for my bingo.

[split maple]

honestly taking a break every so often is prolly healthy

[past mantle]

It's a good one this time.

[bronze falcon]

I made this handy flow chart earlier for someone else in the same dilemma

[native abyss]

hi zao

[tribal ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rdqpyv/horizon_orb_harbi_orb_and_scouting_report_tab/

[frigid wedge]

ok but i want to want to play

[low lava]

you wait for the livestream like me 😂

[bronze falcon]

Power through man, think of the tinks

[onyx adder]

Out of ur soundproof ggg box to magically discover qol updates with the rest of us, i see

[bronze falcon]

do it for the tinks

[split maple]

go figure out how to juice pandemoniums solo so its worthwhile then ping me

[frigid wedge]

what tinks

[bronze falcon]

Temple forever ruined my dopamine receptors

[onyx adder]

U wait for patch notes

[frigid wedge]

[onyx adder]

Nobody actually ever wants to play poe right now

[dusty mesa]

I need patch notes to ruin my hopes and dreams

[onyx adder]

Thats why we arent playing

[dusty mesa]

Like usual

[onyx adder]

And instead talking shit on discord

[low lava]

O_o

[lucid gale]

Heard about some of them, others were a pleasant surprise.

[dusty mesa]

Nah that’s… way too dumb….

[gentle ice]

all secrets/mechanics you encounter during campaign only appear once per character, there is/was way to cheat tho by using a friend's map and reloading a new area without finishing them with ctrl+click i did rituals in A2 when they got added a few time by doing that

[dusty mesa]

I’ll see myself out

[past mantle]

Okay.

My bingo ready.

[supple verge]

Poe1 stonks

[stoic horizon]

holy essay level bingo

[past mantle]

I know what I want and hope for.

And will most certainly get.

[lucid gale]

Better send that to Santa too.

[past mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-christmas-fnaf-cat-santa-gif-9788324769746832761

[harsh flame]

Does santa have platinum hair and enjoy saying "effectively" a lot?

If so, great idea

[worthy cave]

What's wrong with Farrul?!

[low lava]

memes ruined santa for me

[worthy cave]

What, are the little kitties too OP?

[past mantle]

Generically good. Overshadows a lot of 4th picks on ascendancies.

[worthy cave]

You mean the cats on crit node?

[past mantle]

Yes.

[worthy cave]

And shouldn't bloodlines be good if you're running out of options?

Because the spectre node feels like it requires some massive investment

[lucid gale]

I read the free square to be about your personal red blood. Sounds fair.

[worthy cave]

Gotta get the tiger (10+ divs), gotta have multiple links to keep it alive

[past mantle]

I reworded it to sound like that.

[worthy cave]

gotta be able to maintain a high level spectre gem

and the other one is "you need warcries and minions"

[lucid gale]

Deal with the devil kind of thing.

[worthy cave]

that's pretty specific I'd say

[wheat sinew]

Happy about the div card qol

Pepethanks

[worthy cave]

STILL WAITING FOR MASTER DISTILLER ON PATHFINDER TO NOT BE HOT GARBAGE

[wheat sinew]

Nuh uh

[past mantle]

Nah.

[worthy cave]

So what's their point, then?!

They're not extra power, they cost you your same ascendancy points.

[wheat sinew]

Mark the goat, the point

[gritty epoch]

Pbod buff when

[wheat sinew]

Oh shi

Too much headline

[worthy cave]

If you got two bloodline points just for taking down the boss, that'd be one thing

[gentle ice]

yep ritual and shrines too maybe i'll do more ritual now... 😅 i always leave the maps without even checking ritual rewards 🤦‍♂️

[worthy cave]

Rituals are wildly unrewarding

[past mantle]

To enable you alternative build paths to fill in weaknesses, not to just replace the 4th choice on an asc.

[worthy cave]

It's a whole lot of nothing until you get what...Perfect Forest Tiger?

[past mantle]

Who thinks this?

[sterile depot]

Horizon and Harbinger orbs gone from faustus - no more map tiers questionmark?

[worthy cave]

and what nodes actually do that?

Olroth needs some very specific investment (lots of ward, which has huge opportunity costs)

Aul requires giving up your boots gems (and finding Aul), which is just kind of pathetic compared to Jugg's unstoppable

[past mantle]

Basically most of them really.

[worthy cave]

Bloodlines asking "does your build have less than 4 good nodes? Here's a consolation" is just...awful.

It means that the ascendancies with fewer options are punished further.

Meanwhile, ascendancies like slayer or elementalist have a whole candy store of choices

[hexed mountain]

aul is a troll bloodline tbh , with 4 gems you can get the action speed immunity form an AG and he's not dying with meatshield minion life and elemental army

[neon veldt]

bloodlines should be cool, build-enabling ascendacies, not what they are right now

[split maple]

i can settle there, right?

[worthy cave]

You mean with garb of the ephemeral?

[gentle ice]

i made lots of profit with rituals personally last time i've played it 🤷‍♂️ , i just don't really like running it, most mechanics are pretty good to run and there's $$ to make everywhere imo 🤔

[past mantle]

Nah.

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[past mantle]

They should be options to fill out needs at a cost of something not just ascendancies again.

[hexed mountain]

i'd much rather get an AG 4 linked in boots and keep my ascendancy points

especially when you can add other sup items on it

[past mantle]

Really should just be delegated to utility and defence.

[worthy cave]

Again, if you see bloodlines that way, they should be accessible through bloodline points, not spending your own ascendancy points

[past mantle]

No.

[hexed mountain]

well last time i said they should be actual bloodlines like buffs to your character related to the bloodline , and i stand by that

[worthy cave]

Otherwise, you should select ascendnacies with 4 good nodes

(elementalist, slayer, potentially champ)

[whole bluff]

bloodlines do have a great use case for making ideas without 4 labs on the best ascendancies not feel so bad

[past mantle]

Builds lead you to things that you have to make up for.

[worthy cave]

and stay away from ascendancies with limited options (non-chaos pathfinder just doesn't work)

[cobalt blade]

i would on all of these happily drop a node for aul

[signal hawk]

That's are what normal ascendacies are for

[cobalt blade]

action speed immune is so good

[cobalt blade]

hi i run valdos

posseessed feared kills them

non possessed feared also kills htem

[lofty fox]

Transfigured gems change is so good

[cobalt blade]

basically anything outside of normal mapping really

[hexed mountain]

recover life on block shield

[whole bluff]

just making them equally powerful is somewhat bloaty, although I dont mind options, but then you need to devote more dev time to balance them

[cobalt blade]

so fun fact

theres a ghost that disables recovery

[whole bluff]

so I think it makes sense for bloodlines to be weaker

[hexed mountain]

its not hard to make an AG basically immortal (unless there's no block valdo)

[worthy cave]

I mean I'd think the point is "lacking options?> Here are some cool ones to consider"

[cobalt blade]

theres no block valdos

AG's will die in valdos

[hexed mountain]

i know , i mean unless its one of the no block valdos

[whole bluff]

but that's what we have

[worthy cave]

Not "lacking options? Well, we're gonna laugh in your face"

[gritty epoch]

Looks at chieftain

[worthy cave]

Chieftain, Gladiator, Pathfinder

Chieftain: Valako + explode + ??????

Gladiator: okay you got your lucky block, now what? An axe + bleed pops?

And if you don't want to go the bleed pops route? You're just screwed?

[gritty epoch]

They should let us spend extra 2 points to buff an ascendency node

[cobalt blade]

war of attrition

[past mantle]

Half of the bloodlines are niche but good, as they should be, and the other half needs to be buffed to be more usable or just changed entirely to not be generically good.

[worthy cave]

I mean the Farrul spectre bloodline seems like a trap

[cobalt blade]

just dont remove aul and im happy

[whole bluff]

I think it's probably more time efficient to make sure all ascendancies are decent than trying to keep 10 extra ascendancies on par with the 3 options every char currently has

[worthy cave]

"Oh hey I have al lthis power so long as my minion doesn't die"

[cobalt blade]

i like getting action and crit immune for 2 ascend points

[cobalt blade]

if your not running valdos the perfect guardian turtle lives

the others die though

biiit too weak

[worthy cave]

well I'd think you need to 4L the thing

[signal hawk]

I mean glad having block is weird when champion art is literally holding a shield

[worthy cave]

21/23 spectre, minion life, meat shield, empower

and would wanta +2 to all minion skills helmet

[cobalt blade]

nah it lives with just the 3 link afaik

[worthy cave]

Champ is fortify, glad is block, slayer is leech

[cobalt blade]

spectre life meat shield

[eager lion]

Oh no! Horizon orbs and scouting reportd gone?

[whole bluff]

I wouldnt mind if farrul bloodline could be a bit more choose with the spectre, if that's a problem

[hexed mountain]

if you got empty links open you can slap some cwdt bone offering too

[signal hawk]

Guy with a shield fortifies, guy with no shield blocks, slayer is fine

[past mantle]

Oshabi seals? Great.
+1 Ring? Also great.
Corruption's Embrace? Entirely udnerrated lets hope they buff it.
Aul aura nodes? Basically unusable.

[hexed mountain]

slayer slays

[past mantle]

You can block while dual wielding.

[cobalt blade]

imo best thing on oshabi

[hard cliff]

theirs a support gem for that

[past mantle]

I should've put "finally a buff to dual wielding after 20 leagues" on the bingo.

[signal hawk]

Glad art is literally doing a "come at me bro", is he not fortifying himself for impact

[past mantle]

That one very good.

[hexed mountain]

meanwhile pathfinder on the art has a BOW

[past mantle]

Seals is actually night and day for BV and SRS.

[cobalt blade]

theres a handful of times you dont actually have a4th node so you just spend 1 small on oshabi 1 small on your ascend tree lmfao

[hard cliff]

that's wild

[past mantle]

That's only if your glove slot is taken up.

[hard cliff]

you are a little crack head

[worthy cave]

Toxic Rain PF is a thing

[cobalt blade]

shapers touch int/intstr stackers

[past mantle]

Yeah, defo some good use cases.

[worthy cave]

and remember spell bow PF for throwing explotems?

[hexed mountain]

havent seen one of those in years

[whole bluff]

that is still a problem, but I think the solution is not same power lvl on bloodlines as regular ascendancies

[worthy cave]

PathOfEvening starts that build

[whole bluff]

more like some ascendancies suck

[hexed mountain]

PF should just be two daggers we all know its all mambas

[worthy cave]

but yeah Toxic Rain can use a revert

[past mantle]

Mostly, yeah.

[cobalt blade]

i mean yeah ofc not that would make builds too homogeneous i think its called

[fossil mural]

Wait, doesnt that font exist already? So they just made it more common?

[cobalt blade]

no

[whole bluff]

yeah

[cobalt blade]

the current font is random of the type

so pbod will become dissipation or conduction

now you can always choose dissipation

[fossil mural]

ic

[whole bluff]

idk if I care a ton for homogenous, I probably would. atm I just want more spells to be good

[signal hawk]

also talking about bloodlines, what graft point will do now that there is no grafts?

[past mantle]

I don't think the options we have on asc that are available to everyone should be generic and only something you go for if you really like a playstyle, need utility or want to enable a special type of building around.

[cobalt blade]

everything being homogenous is bad just makes it all fucking identical

boring as hell

[whole bluff]

but I think GGG would care and spend resources I would have liked to see spent elswhere, if bloodlines were too powerful

[cobalt blade]

half the fun of poe is finding a billion ways to scale shit differently

[hard cliff]

jewels

[whole bluff]

true

[past mantle]

Yep.

[signal hawk]

yeah I can see that I guess

[cobalt blade]

my guess is gonna be ignore fire res one

to fit with the ignore cold/light

[hexed mountain]

fire pen if two fire ring equipped

although there's no fire breach boss there so maybe they do something different

[whole bluff]

It makes a lot of sense to make sure it's not homogenous. I just dont know if I ever felt like homogenity was as much of a problem as simply what I wanna play having at the time no options.

[gentle ice]

pbod will be nerfed like hexblast anyways so that lab change won't affect it directly 😏

[whole bluff]

but I agree, just not from experience cuz I suppose that's not how I think about it usually

[cobalt blade]

i mean do you ever think about playing a spell realize its so much better as eblade

and then just not build it because boring to do that again

[frigid wedge]

what supports have the highest multiplier to cost?

excluding lifetap

[past mantle]

Corrupting cry is 1000% xddd.

[whole bluff]

if I wanna play a spell I'm happy at least eblade exists 😅

[hexed mountain]

second wind

[past mantle]

Huntleader is just too generically good and it does complete with actual ascendancy points on pure damage it gives.

Huntleader ain't it.

[hard cliff]

hey now

you can also do this with archmage for some variety

[whole bluff]

though frustrating it always struggles with mageblood vs balbala

[cobalt blade]

chain and multistrike are 1.5x

[frigid wedge]

no bueno

[cobalt blade]

fair

[tranquil umbra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rdqpyv/horizon_orb_harbi_orb_and_scouting_report_tab/

[hexed mountain]

works with heralds as they are considered to have a cooldown , idk what spell you want to buff

[whole bluff]

maybe true though, eblade does seem boring to go for next league

[cobalt blade]

oh wait eri are you doin this for mana forged

[whole bluff]

I probably just dont even consider it

[dusty mesa]

It’s okay because self cast spells (including cdot) are gonna be giga buffed

Trust

[whole bluff]

for sure

[frigid wedge]

sorta yes sorta no

[tranquil umbra]

clueless

[past mantle]

Cdot as in cold dot?

[dusty mesa]

Chaos

[frigid wedge]

just testing how much of an issue it is to actually automate a lightning arrow

[cobalt blade]

ah

[frigid wedge]

mostly to show alesia

[past mantle]

Oh that got buffed pretty hard with the breach ring, no?

[cobalt blade]

then i think the norm is to get faster proj corruption on your bow for an extra 1.2x

[hexed mountain]

if horizon orbs are gone imma crash out

doing rotas without horizon in ssf is PAIN

[dusty mesa]

Chaos dots, aside from poison, don’t compete really

[tranquil umbra]

yeah imma also crash out if they remove horizon fully

[onyx adder]

Yer that shit is bad

[dusty mesa]

Even with a crap ton of investment

[tranquil umbra]

I really hope they implemented another currency for rerolling guardian maps

[whole bluff]

I'm like thinking, what if I make another CoC eblade, but with 3 flask mageblood and traitor, that seems giga, and its a cheap mageblood. But then I did play like 3 eblade since like 3.21 maybe

[onyx adder]

Even in trade u dont wanna go back to the bad old days of atlas completion rotas

[whole bluff]

and I go like... dual stack ivory tower again?

[onyx adder]

Can remove harbie orbs and scouting reports idc

[frigid wedge]

needs to be quiver

[tranquil umbra]

or maybe made chaos orbs reroll the guardian by default

[dusty mesa]

Apparently chaos dots are semi comfortable to complete atlas, but they struggle on void stones

[cobalt blade]

wuut

[signal hawk]

Imagine being a vampire in Wreaclast: "I'm going to suck your blood" "Get in the line freak"

[onyx adder]

Although without scouting reports it becomes a lot more annoying to do a lot of challenges in every league

[frigid wedge]

i need a 3L to cost more than a 6L

[onyx adder]

If u care about challenges

[cobalt blade]

ohhhhhh

maloneys

[onyx adder]

Ah well we see what ggg does

They probably replace

[frigid wedge]

yeye

[gentle ice]

it doesn't matter that much in trade*, but i loved horizon orbs 😭 i hope they're still in

[cobalt blade]

chain/return then are i think your 2 best

2 1.5x's

[frigid wedge]

yeye, prob

[dusty mesa]

Wait why is there talk of there possibly not being horizon orbs?

[opal ingot]

whaat that's a fun orb

[dusty mesa]

Did I miss something

[cobalt blade]

wasnt on the currency exchange in teaser

[cosmic raptor]

When new leg

[hexed mountain]

on the teaser there was no horizon/harbi orbs on the currency choice

[dusty mesa]

Oh

[onyx adder]

Idk what u idiots are trying to do but it looks like mfa

[whole bluff]

wut

[dusty mesa]

Bro I’m not buying map completion

[whole bluff]

so they gonna breachify atlas

[onyx adder]

And messing with mana costs

[normal hedge]

nah, they moved them to a subcategory called "map currency"

[hexed mountain]

to be fair the new league could also give something similar

[cobalt blade]

maloneys

[onyx adder]

In which case idk what ur attempting but the solution is usually lifetap on one of the links

[whole bluff]

this breachification better be gooder if that's what it is

[onyx adder]

Oh maloneys

[cobalt blade]

and eri specified no lifetap

[whole bluff]

that would be nice

or not a problem at least

[cobalt blade]

since i also thought mfa at first^

[frigid wedge]

rilay

what supports u got

for la

[onyx adder]

Alright well this is some advanced autism i'll leave u to it then

[frigid wedge]

dw

i got it

[gentle ice]

would be weird to remove horizons right after changing them so they can roll guardians maps tho especially since it was a very liked change 😅

[hexed mountain]

plot twist : they removed it just for the teaser to ragebait

[cobalt blade]

almost as weird as making breach one in a map right after adding the ability to have as many open as you want

[frigid wedge]

yeah im just gonna lifetap the 6l

[normal hedge]

eh

i dont remember

awakened fork, trinity

[cobalt blade]

terrible cursed idea

inspiration and enlighten 5 to reduce cost of 6l

:D

definitely worse than just life tapping but maybe technically works

[normal hedge]

woke ele dmg

i dont remember the rest

[cobalt blade]

return? or nimis la

[full lava]

mr naca what farming strat is good for early lets say someone who have a decent build what would you reccomened?

i need them currency bad

[cobalt blade]

ms*

[lucid gale]

Halfway through the week already

[cobalt blade]

and i have no idea currently

[fossil mural]

wait till next leg

[normal hedge]

yeah nimis. i think i had to put inspiration, i was using mirage archer but i had to remove it when i was going to get the shrines so its kinda annoying so you just swap it to another 30% more dmg link

[fossil mural]

😩

[cobalt blade]

ah

[full lava]

well im new and i kinda wanna experiment with sum stuff

what strat is like very profitable and easy to do strat

[cobalt blade]

destructive play is probably the least investment thing you just take all the boss map drop nodes+destructive play and run guardian maps

(elder/shaper/conq)

[fossil mural]

is that even good anymore

[cobalt blade]

chisels

its always good

[normal hedge]

destructive play is really good

[fossil mural]

yea

its one week

before leg ends

[cobalt blade]

yep and people are fucking around with evo alva

[brazen vector]

@split maple it worked

[golden moat]

bro these QoL changes are insane

[fossil mural]

I can just give you my osin, I think Ive figured out my leg start anyway

[golden moat]

so hype

[hard cliff]

[golden moat]

GGG cooked

[fossil mural]

no essence qol

🥀

[dusky iron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rdsnaw/hi_i_am_mark_from_grindinggeargames_with_the/

[cobalt blade]

yo what if they remove essences

biggest qol

(specifically essence mobs)

[onyx adder]

Should be a keystone

[golden moat]

the campaign additions and transfigure gem QoL is enough for me tbh. also the currency exchange stash window

[fossil mural]

literally better atlas

[cobalt blade]

every rare in your map randomly has 1-4 essences and doesnt need to be broken out please

[onyx adder]

Essence mobs are released and enraged on map open

[gentle ice]

you could run betrayal, it's not too hard?, give lots of xp, and syndicate token/allflames are selling well

[onyx adder]

Id click that even if it made em rippy

[fossil mural]

its not a very common font, idk how important it is

[fossil mural]

so true

[onyx adder]

Dont lie u guys would too

[fossil mural]

also if you have explosions

it will kill them

[cobalt blade]

obviously

[tranquil umbra]

I would not because I want the corrupted essences

[limpid jewel]

Gonna be my first league start

nervous lol

[fossil mural]

essence farming would speed up like

2x

[gentle ice]

i'm probably gonna spec into expedition/betrayal on league start personally if ground loots are unchanged

[keen veldt]

eckbock trade league start also known as ssf

[split maple]

yo amazeballs

[cosmic raptor]

Hi i am Mark from grinding gear games

[valid coral]

why mark has such handsome voice...

[finite quail]

no I wouldnt

why tf would anyone get that

that way you cant corrupt em to get special essences

[cosmic raptor]

That's how they get you

[fossil mural]

who gives a fuck

[brazen vector]

just giga squishy now xd

[fossil mural]

just blast calc

[split maple]

svaline?

[valid coral]

i will MTX for my king

[frigid wedge]

yeah i realise theres a few more pieces than i considered that need swaps

technically u can but i dont think atp in league its worth bothering

[onyx adder]

Most corrupt essence mods need a balance pass in 2026 actually

[frigid wedge]

bc u need decent cdrr

[fossil mural]

I like this this is true for poe2 as well

[onyx adder]

Theyre mostly too shit to bother recombing

[fossil mural]

ggg never fails

[onyx adder]

Like have u seen essence belt mods in 2026 holy

[split maple]

tbf even if belt mods were amazeballs

they would be on belt slot

[bold scarab]

need poe2 0.1 and 0.2 essence system

[split maple]

like alchemist genious honestly isnt bad

but who would use rare belt after first week and then you dont want to invest into that slot

[tranquil umbra]

alchemist genius when the headhunter and megablood

[fossil mural]

peak

or burning ground

[bold scarab]

like 0.3.1 and 0.4 system is good when it comes to the perfect essences ... but like it was nice that you could take a white item and make it blue with 1 guarunteed mod ... and then take that blue item and make it rare with a second guarunteed mod

[hard cliff]

yes

[brazen vector]

good idea

[fossil mural]

when in doubt

slap svalinn on

honestly almost as bad as mb

[split maple]

and harder to get

like them settlers uniques in general rly need a saner way to get them

[tranquil umbra]

no you will wait patiently for the captain to commandeer your ship

[onyx adder]

Shut up and click kingsmarch nodes nerd

Its the ggg way

[split maple]

even with full atlas invest and scarbs

its ridiculus, like 1k maps on avg

so like lab jewels relegated to valdos

[past mantle]

Those dropped from valdos?

Didn't know that.

[split maple]

emperors? vast majority of them on trade is usually foils

svalinne got a few boxes added this league

[tranquil umbra]

no one wants to farm lab lmao

[onyx adder]

Next league atlas and scarabs removed, all kingsmarch nodes and scarab effects become baseline

GGG has decreed that this is the future

Shut up and spam ur defiled cathedrals maybe u get mageblood before svalinn

[split maple]

got me 2 mbs this league, one from wretched cards one ethical ground drop

gave up on svalinne after idk 400 maps

[hard cliff]

@onyx adder
AlvA burning the atlas

[golden moat]

wait scouting reports are missing from the tab window in currency exchange AND harby orb and horizon orb are gone in the QoL video in currency exchagne.... atlas rework confirmed?

[brazen vector]

actually no, I go from 0% attack and spell block to 40% attack and 27% spell block

[hard cliff]

what happens next

SHE LIT THE ATLAS ON FIRE

[tranquil umbra]

it's Zana bro

[opaque wing]

Wrong woman there bro.

[split maple]

dbl foulborn opressor?

[hard cliff]

@opaque wing @tranquil umbra
I'M SO SORRY

[tranquil umbra]

dbl foulborn oppressor will be so expensive 😭

[golden moat]

atlas reworked confirmed, rip

[cosmic raptor]

Real

[dusty mesa]

This is what we want

Wdym rip

[stoic horizon]

too real

[golden moat]

i just got used to it

[crisp obsidian]

We wish

[onyx adder]

God i hope so

[golden moat]

scouting reports, harby orb, and horizon orb are gone in the QoL video. its inevitable

[onyx adder]

Even just a rearrangement

[split maple]

emm generic life on block t1 block t1 life rare i am kinda running out of ideas there

[onyx adder]

Make me think about atlas in the first week or so

[split maple]

who would have thought relying on divine shrine as main defence would make charly hard to replace

[dusty mesa]

I’d love for something new to do

[onyx adder]

I dont even need anything new although it would be nice

[brazen vector]

when I hold down rightclick hard enough, it works with my current setup

[onyx adder]

I just dont want my first week of atlas tree to be the same as its been for the last idk 6 leagues

[dusty mesa]

As a clear speed player, it Would also be cool to get void stone shards from every map boss that combine into 4 voidstones and they can’t be purchased or sold

[onyx adder]

Uber elder is kinda a chore at league start

Maven is fine

[dusty mesa]

Yea I just don’t like waiting to do UE

[native token]

It's not even take long

Like 8h after league start and you shoud have it

[dusty mesa]

You haven’t tried to non trans KBlast down UE I see

[onyx adder]

Every elder guardian phase transition takes 57 years

[dusty mesa]

Or any non meta bossing skill

[onyx adder]

And u have to sit through 2x4x2 of them

[split maple]

taking campaign easy exploring new side rooms

[onyx adder]

💀

[dusty mesa]

Now multiply the time taken by 4 if you aren’t a boss skill

[split maple]

tad less

you maven witness

[native token]

If a league starter can't do uelder or maeven I would say it's a bad build

[dusty mesa]

Not real math but my point stands

[split maple]

and invite drops fragies

[onyx adder]

Yea thats true

2x4x2 then because never lucky

[split maple]

so like 2x5-6 boss fights

chimera takes half of that time

its kinda annoying

[onyx adder]

Chimera still less aids than eradicator

[dusty mesa]

No one said the builds can’t do UE or Maven

It’s the fact that it takes longer if you want to play non meta. Plug and playing every optimal league starter is actually so boring

And yet I have to be a slave to it like everyone else

Like I want to play chaos dot but if you think I’m not paying for an UE carry so I don’t have to do the work, you’re wrong lmao

[native token]

You dont have to play a meta skill. I've done so many 4 stone runes with the most ass trash skills

[dusty mesa]

You’re shifting the point. Just because a build can do it, doesn’t make it fun doing it

I can sit there and dodge Exarch balls for an hour straight on any build. Doesn’t mean I want to lmao

Why dodge when I can just one shot

[native token]

If you hit 1 mil dps with modern defensive maeven and uelder aren't taken long

[dusty mesa]

Anyway, I’m hopeful for some kind of endgame rework. Endgame has been the same copy/paste meta for so long with a couple of outliers

[onyx adder]

Poe 1 is just too optimized atm if u dont suck nuts

We need a table flip

[dusty mesa]

I’m not allowing myself to be rage baited any longer

[onyx adder]

Nonsense, casie would never rage bait anybody

They are the best

[native token]

Exactly

[dusty mesa]

[native token]

But I think if you have to buy a carrie

You are shameles

[dusty mesa]

I never have to buy a carry

[native token]

Good boy

[hexed mountain]

there's more shameless than buying carries

[dusty mesa]

[hexed mountain]

i wont say the name but i saw while looking for trades in phrecia some streamers who were putting mid items for 50 divs , probably for their viewers to buy

[native token]

Imagine you have to buy a carrie with async cheating

[dusty mesa]

Smh

[opaque wing]

Have you ever considered being a good troll instead of aiming for the lowest bait possible? 😛

[native token]

It's not a bait

[lone night]

[native token]

Instead of wasting 50c for a boost just buy upgrades and one-shot maeven

[dusty mesa]

I’m just heavily coping this league. I’m expecting endgame rework, Occy love, chaos dot love, self cast spell love, spell totem love

[onyx adder]

Damn are UE boosts 50c

[lean urchin]

rmember, 1 janitor. skeleton crew

[lone night]

This league will be nice

[native token]

Idk how much people have go pay to be boosted

[opaque wing]

They got octavian focused up this league, and he was the mind behind t17s and the scarab rework, so I'd argue its not unreasonable to assume endgame is getting some love.

[dusty mesa]

T17 uber maps were such a cool idea in theory

They weren’t implemented well

[hexed mountain]

we getting T18 maps

[opaque wing]

I'm hopeful for a map mod rework across all of endgame.

[onyx adder]

Theyre in a good state now imo

[dusty mesa]

I remember conquerors and the t19 maps

[onyx adder]

At launch they didnt make sense

[dusty mesa]

I do think they’re better now for sure

But there’s something still off to me and idk what it is

[native token]

Aslong we get a full out of map mechanic

[hexed mountain]

an entire atlas rework would be a banger

[proper thistle]

So is PoE 1 going to lose updates or be shut down once 2 releases or

[split maple]

Now that's cheapo by your standards tho cmon

[lone night]

No

[split maple]

Still better than zozo bait

[proper thistle]

What

[opaque wing]

Both games are supported at the same time because they're different

[hexed mountain]

PoE1 will keep going until poo2 closes due to player count

[onyx adder]

Poe2 seems to be doing aight playerwise

Got its own core of ppl that wont play poe1

[crisp obsidian]

@karmic gust how hard would ggg have to nerf poison mamba for it to be not good for ubers next leag

[onyx adder]

They even complain like we do

[hexed mountain]

PoE3 will be the real PoE2

[dusty mesa]

Poe2 will be good one day

[proper thistle]

I'm just thinking I wanna put quite a bit more time into 1 to learn more, maybe 1k hours or so before i move onto 2 so just curious on it

[dusty mesa]

It just sucks waiting for that

[low lava]

Poe 1 aint going down anytime soon.

[dusty mesa]

It’ll give you enough time to wait for a solid patch

[low lava]

or late

[cosmic raptor]

I love poe2

[hard cliff]

GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-water-ai-GO07NzrhLWmvcdsJc0

[lone night]

I hate the mapping and the atlas

And it’s a different game

[hard cliff]

YOU CAN HAVE THE ATLAS @lone night

BUT ORIOX IS MINE

NOW WATCH THIS COUCH FLY

[lone night]

[native token]

I hate in map mechanics like affliction. It's just bad. I like mechanica like tota or heist way more

[surreal musk]

fross , pbod, fussilade in teaser , elementalist not in teaser 🙏

[onyx adder]

I agree we need tota back

[hard cliff]

[onyx adder]

And buff void sphere

Void sphere of rending actually real skill btw

Carries poison bv single target

[hazy kiln]

I've tried multiple times to make a pure void sphere of rending build, every time I forget that there's no reason not to run BV alongside it

actual goldfish

[onyx adder]

Its good ngl

I played a bit in phrecia on arakaali

[hard cliff]

BladeVortex with void sphere spam for hard mobs/bosses

Hmmmmmmmmm

[bold scarab]

void sphere needs to be alot flashier/stronger

[onyx adder]

Could see it would scale well

[hazy kiln]

yeah the problem is just that I've played poison BV five times already

[onyx adder]

Yer same

[hazy kiln]

I don't really want to play it again

[frigid wedge]

i keep like

opening this pob

clicking 3 nodes

[onyx adder]

Including when u guys didnt KILL IT AND FEED THE CORPSE INTO A WOODCHIPPER

[frigid wedge]

and tabbing out

[onyx adder]

Sorry tourettes

[frigid wedge]

what

[gentle ice]

i should try it again, i used to love void sphere when i started playing poe but it's pretty meh lol

[low lava]

O_O

[frigid wedge]

how do you develop tourettes for a full sentence on ur keyboard

[normal hedge]

guys viper just confirmed bv is getting buffed

[onyx adder]

Regular voidsphere is unplayable

[hard cliff]

I want that exploding ice crystal spell to get buffed to playable

it looks really cool

I forget the name

[low lava]

them hands lives their own life i guess 😂

[onyx adder]

Yer

I have hands tourettes

Very rare

Only applies to typing

[hard cliff]

Be safe

[frigid wedge]

i saw some guy who had a tic to very slowly to the full prayer thing from christianity

[bold scarab]

how long until keepers ends

[low lava]

The guy with the mic ?
I think he has a cooking show, where his ticks trigger constantly and he tries to cook 😂

[gentle ice]

a week or so

[bold scarab]

oh F

[frigid wedge]

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DPrd63aDl-G/

[hard cliff]

This could be a tom petty song title

ZOOMERS LOOK IT UP

[low lava]

yep that guy, i think he is part of a cooking show too.

[frigid wedge]

interesting

my fucking eyes tell me no

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[frigid wedge]

what if i just keep adding half the tree

xD

[split maple]

There two pretty sweet points top left from like your fourth passive from start

[low lava]

needs more circles i think 😂

[frigid wedge]

its for mfa

hiero

[split maple]

Don't forget unnatural instinct ES lom

[gentle ice]

i wonder if there are builds made specifically to have shapes drawn on the tree 😅

[frigid wedge]

i will indeed forget

:D

[sacred bane]

Be the first

[cobalt blade]

its almost a scion tree

[frigid wedge]

does that please you?

[cobalt blade]

Yes :3

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/blep-bleh-silly-tongue-out-anime-gif-16935416

[low lava]

_>

[cobalt blade]

Although its also probably incorrect since youd wanna path for mana splits me thinks

[cobalt blade]

Unless its adorned*

[frigid wedge]

hmmm?

[frigid wedge]

idrk atm, not sure where i wanna go with this

i just want indigon widowhail and a big mana quiver

[cobalt blade]

fairs

[modern zinc]

yeah that's a bit too early for cruel izaro on a melee build

[low lava]

Just think i remember what show that was 😂

[frigid wedge]

i dont know what it is

i just like the gif

[low lava]

Oh yeah same, just made a ! in my head when i saw it again 😂

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[low lava]

The power of being tired.

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Edge_of_Madness

Holy shit it's soul edge

[cobalt blade]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Asterisk_War its apparently this anime after some quick searching lol

[low lava]

speaking of, who the pfp.
The one from academia ?

[low lava]

Yup 😄

Been a bit, since i read/saw it

[frigid wedge]

unfortunately

[low lava]

Why unfortunately XD ?

Its a hill of a show

[cobalt blade]

never seen it before but it looks uh mid

lol

[normal hedge]

asterisk is pretty bad

[low lava]

Hero with powers that are locked. fights for it and get punished by using his power. Handful romance as well.

its meh

[cobalt blade]

yeah i looked at the base plot lol

[onyx adder]

I swear marketing pants to anime girls is a huge and completely untapped market

[granite roost]

atlas rework?

[frigid wedge]

ok a. ive never actually cared for mha overall
b. i watched like 1 season and got bored bc cringe so most of my consumption is in clip form
c. honestly i just have the pfp bc the colours atp

[cobalt blade]

based for that last one purple cool

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[low lava]

Yeah i didnt care either, i skipped like 2-3 seasons.
The start and the end is the best 😂
Yeah, its why most of use use random pfps as well. Purple is great.

[onyx adder]

U have some chutzpah to say that after four months of staring at breach hives

Im gonna be having purple PTSD for years

[frigid wedge]

id need a pfp that matches my other decorations now

[cobalt blade]

i didnt mind the colours of breach just the presence of it

[low lava]

what color we talking 😂

[dusty mesa]

I still get scared of walls

[cobalt blade]

sane thing with doing endless harby endless blue /blue man group is fine

[brazen vector]

@split maple I have a headhunter for you waiting in trade

[onyx adder]

🧱

[brazen vector]

[dusty mesa]

“The walls aren’t real, they can’t hurt you”

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-the-wall-gif-25370159

[onyx adder]

GGG went through the whole purple era a few years ago

Prophecy into breach into uh

Something else purple

[brazen vector]

Affliction was pretty purple to me

[cobalt blade]

legion kinda purple affliction stuff all chaos damage things

[dusty mesa]

I know this is a joke, but this was me everytime I walked into a wall. I was just like “go away” three thousand times

[frigid wedge]

gotta match my flowers and my starry

[dusty mesa]

We need another green league

[onyx adder]

U know what

I want metamorph back

[low lava]

Shinobu Kocho.
Hotaru Tomoe from Sailor ?

[dusty mesa]

Metamorph was actually fun

[onyx adder]

It was mid but still way better than some of the shit mechanics ggg actually kept

[dusty mesa]

Compared to like sanctum and settlers

Well, settlers was fun

Until it wasn’t

[pastel ruin]

i seem to remember always needing eyeballs for metamorphs and having a million of everything else?

[frigid wedge]

some very dark purples there i see

[pastel ruin]

or was it brains

[dapper parrot]

eyes

[cobalt blade]

theres also faris from steins gate i think she was kinda between purple and pink (albiet been a whiile since ive watched that)

[low lava]

Then there is Cure Selene from Twinkle and Shido from date a live.
Gonna add in Athena from Saiya 😂

[low lava]

Never saw that show 😂
My mate hyped it to much

[cobalt blade]

would recommend is gud

[dapper parrot]

wish i could watch steins gate for the 1st time again

[cobalt blade]

saaame

(and based pfp)

[native token]

is steingate good ?

never watched it

[cobalt blade]

Yyuh

[low lava]

When i get in the mood again.
I have, watched and rewatched to many as a of late 😂

[cobalt blade]

well its good if you like sci fi esc anime/shows

[full lava]

how long is mainatenance for trading

[frigid wedge]

eventually ill watch stuff

[low lava]

My watch list is too long 😂

[frigid wedge]

i just kinda

[dapper parrot]

1 bite at a time 🤠

[frigid wedge]

dont watch

[low lava]

i have gotten to the point, where watching stuff alone. Is the boring part 😂

[frigid wedge]

mm

[cobalt blade]

yeah I only rly watch shows when frens drag me into it now lol

[low lava]

Just waiting for new stuff to peak my interest :3
Currently waiting on some to stop so i can binge.

[cobalt blade]

kinda fun been like a year or so tho since it last happened :p

[low lava]

send over some of those 😂
My network is too small

[cobalt blade]

lol

[native token]

@split maple 2 days till slam practice start

[low lava]

bonk

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[dusty mesa]

I need patch notes

[low lava]

Still prob going dual strike starter

[modern zinc]

same

[low lava]

unless they take that to the trash

[modern zinc]

why would they

it's dual strike

it's already in the trash

[low lava]

Forgot to add the of Ambidexterity part XD

[modern zinc]

i'm not sure how much better that is tbh

[cobalt blade]

the big brightbeak starter

[low lava]

Yee

Champ Dual Strike of Ambidexterity.

[cobalt blade]

its pretty damn good once you have a good flat main hand

[dapper parrot]

nerf global melee dmg

[low lava]

No thanks haha

[finite quail]

okay

nerfing every type of damage

[dapper parrot]

thats ggg mission statement right there

[cobalt blade]

and now all the melee proj and area skills still dominate

[low lava]

i just hope i can remember how i did it last time.

[cobalt blade]

since yknow melee damage portion doesn't apply to those

[dapper parrot]

ls back on top lets go

[low lava]

argh steam shit down

[finite quail]

Yep steam down

[finite quail]

Hey Naca

[low lava]

Wanted to check my ninja imports to see if i had my champ still there

[cobalt blade]

hihi

[cobalt blade]

it do be Tuesday

[low lava]

Oh

Damn. Was only able to find this shet https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mercenaries/character/Zuues-1248/HaymakerHenry?i=1&search=items%3DRare%2BJewel%26name%3Dhenry

[lucid gale]

A surprise every week since the dawn of time ^_^

[cobalt blade]

lol ye

[low lava]

i keep forgetting its a thing 😂

[split pagoda]

i dont think dual strike of ambi is a great starter but its playable for sure

[low lava]

Who i am not saying its great.
I just like how it feels on a champ for a starter.

Just trying to find the tree for it i had made

That jugg was a end-league boredom

[cobalt blade]

its okay if your in trade and can grab clusters day1-2

[split pagoda]

not saying to anyone in particular just talking about the skill in general

[cobalt blade]

quick and deadly is such a large part of the scaling

[split pagoda]

yeah the clusters are huge

[low lava]

i try and farm clusters myself.

ye

Oh i remember those boots. 😂

[cobalt blade]

also i am judging that weapon why do you have atk speed on it

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-cat-pat-cat-cat-pat-love-cat-gif-8327343031414150876

[low lava]

shoudl try and double corrupt that shit again for the lols

[cobalt blade]

[low lava]

My claw ?

[cobalt blade]

no your paradoxica

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monkey-sad-depressed-bored-gif-14632661802414689947

waiting

[low lava]

Probably the best i had laying about from farming.

[spare ore]

waow

[low lava]

Not needed, thats for sure 😂

[finite quail]

Yaaaa

[low lava]

Its like that weird synth eye i have. Could have gotten a better.

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-funny-smile-happy-gif-7621419476068285580

[cobalt blade]

i mean its quite a bit worse since your losing flat str and the dex/int do basically nothing and the atk speed does literally nothing

:p

[finite quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507526277918621697/1475986405380329525/cat.gif

[low lava]

yeah, its pretty shitty. I was pretty much just done with the league.
My mate wanted the build to have fun. But never got it 😂

Sold the boots when they got moved over to standard

[cobalt blade]

lol

wait your mageblood also isnt blessed

[low lava]

Eh ?

[cobalt blade]

31 str

instead of 42

so 26 str roll implicit

[low lava]

Ah yeah. It was the best i had left from doing my armourstacker.

[cobalt blade]

its just 10 blessed orbs and you were a str stacker D:

[low lava]

Hehe yup. :3

[onyx adder]

💀

[stoic horizon]

[dusty mesa]

Pretty crazy laziness there

[coral summit]

Are there any ways to take straight less/reduced lightning damage outside of goofy as shit corrupt implicits?

[low lava]

Haha, oh i have been worse with some things

[onyx adder]

Actually i hope the new league mechanic is bad

[cobalt blade]

take it as fire damage then arctic armour

[hybrid harness]

2 days til league arc over I cant fucking wait

[coral summit]

if only lol

[onyx adder]

Ive been looking for excuses to leaguestart hc for a while and if its good i will click it too early and die as usual

[cobalt blade]

otherwise i guess you have wise oak

[dusty mesa]

Lmao

[cobalt blade]

reduced/less damage taken is a very sparse stat :p

[low lava]

which league was the one with many LS builds ?

[coral summit]

for good reason yeah

[cobalt blade]

settlers

return sword enchant

[low lava]

Oh damn. Had forgotten all about it

[coral summit]

I kinda want to drop blood and sand and just run flesh/stone instead of tempest shield

[cobalt blade]

also the vls enchant yea

[hexed mountain]

Crucible too, return proj annoint was hilariously unbalanced

[low lava]

i guess that was the soul stuff

[coral summit]

because I think that just makes my build outright unkillable to anything not phys damage

at this point in budget

[brazen vector]

no I did not just vendor 12 fortunate cards

[hexed mountain]

More endurance charge would help with both

[cobalt blade]

you should go try tank a possessed deli feared valdos

:3

[onyx adder]

Sources of EDR obvs

[coral summit]

do endurance charges still stack with armour, or do they both count as damage reduction

[hexed mountain]

Eternal damnation

[coral summit]

or is it just endurance charges make armour better

[cobalt blade]

make armour bettter by a bit

both apply pdr but endu charges dont get squished unlike armour

[karmic gust]

its same stat, its pretty much just added together

but also if you are divine flesh you can get a lot of pdr from the jewel itself

[coral summit]

how much generic increased damage do monsters get per tormented spirit

20 or 30%?

before other mods

[dark sequoia]

PoB is saying that elemental focus and Unbound Avatar affect my Herald of Ash damage.

But the tooltip for Herald of Ash says it is only affected by 'damage over time' and 'burning'

Is PoB wrong?

[cobalt blade]

i think its 30% atk cast move speed and damage per spirit

[junior pebble]

hi im new to poe, idk if i should play poe2 without playing poe1. is it still worth it to play 1 or should i start with 2?

[hexed mountain]

Yeah 30 all around was surfcaster node before they modified

[hexed mountain]

Very different games. PoE1 is faster paced. PoE2 has better graphics

[coral summit]

quint ghosted 100% deli sirus meteor

[stuck phoenix]

poe1 is still being updated

it's as good a game as it has ever been

[cobalt blade]

he doesnt meteor in valdos maps

[stuck phoenix]

poe2 is still in early access

[cobalt blade]

wait are you the 100% mom build

[coral summit]

does he not?

nope

[stuck phoenix]

so clearly ggg aren't quite happy with it yet

[cobalt blade]

ah ok i was gonna say theres a really funny thing that kills you in there for that build

[coral summit]

oh yeah thief's grip would kill me for sure still

[cobalt blade]

(also kills coruscating)

[stuck phoenix]

also, poe1 is free (though for long term play you'll want to spend 20-30) while poe2 is 30 if you want to try it before EA ends

[coral summit]

cuz -4 endurance charges

[thick goblet]

poe2 is the significantly better casual experience imo
poe1 is free though

[coral summit]

actually no

it doesnt

1.3 hits before death LOL

[karmic gust]

how is thiefs grip still in the game anyway

[cobalt blade]

do note

sirus spinny thing gives you 80% inc damage taken

and its by far the most dangerous ability

[coral summit]

Oh yeah I mean if that hits me I'm still dead as shit

[onyx adder]

Glorious vanity is randomly a really good source for many niche stats that are hard to stack

[coral summit]

losing blood and sand is like

350m>300m dps but it bumps up my max hit so fucking much

swapping from tempest shield to flesh/stone

[crisp obsidian]

Ggg hates flasks

[karmic gust]

yea especially with impossible escape its so nice

[cobalt blade]

i think its fine because of how rare it normally is

[coral summit]

the problem there is I need to source shock immunity elsewhere, which means either dropping movespeed or curse reduction

on one of my mb flasks

cant fit it on boots

[cobalt blade]

cant get it on abyss jewels?

[coral summit]

:<

[cobalt blade]

random hat/boot abyss jewels or smth

[coral summit]

nope

[karmic gust]

the other possesed mods dont have build disabling effects so its kinda cringe

[cobalt blade]

f

[coral summit]

zero room for it

[karmic gust]

and they removed the nemesis modifier for example as well

[coral summit]

and its absolutely mandatory cuz i will always be shocked with font of thunder+self damage

if i dont

[karmic gust]

but not thiefs grip smh

[ornate aurora]

Guys please, don’t play bad games.

[low lava]

We arent

[cobalt blade]

thats why we arent playing 2

[ornate aurora]

Just a reminder

[stoic horizon]

ok i will stop playing league of legends

[onyx adder]

I swear if u drop dead tomorrow i could say nice things about thiefs grip from halfway around the world and u would mald so hard u would come back to life

[cobalt blade]

thats fair i just think its fine because rare but if tormented spirits ever became more common it can fuck itself lol

[crisp obsidian]

Thiefs grip disables pf from doing valdos

Which is sadge

[cobalt blade]

nah you just play mageblood pf

[crisp obsidian]

Well void valdos with ghosts

[crisp obsidian]

Ewwwwwwwwwww

[cobalt blade]

and you can just ignore valdos with ghosts

[ornate aurora]

Ghosts aren’t real guys.

[cobalt blade]

i mean people do it in softcore for poison builds lol

[karmic gust]

yea but its worse than non mageblood

[crisp obsidian]

It also disabled me from doing ghosted rogues

Or ghosted bosses

[karmic gust]

it also prevents corruscating builds from doing valdos

[cobalt blade]

yea a lil bit but yknow your solving shit for the hardest content

[karmic gust]

or endu stackers

[cobalt blade]

yeah coruscating is just fucked for possessed ones

charge wise you can solve that

just need min charges

[stoic horizon]

yeah? then explain this -> 👻

[cobalt blade]

pita but fixable

[karmic gust]

yea but that disables IC instead

again making you weaker

[cobalt blade]

so i actually disagree there it just lowers your timing for IC but makes you tankier

[coral summit]

ok wait I can get rid of blood and sand and enable that useless aspect of the spider

that was just sitting there before

[ornate aurora]

That’s obviously a pirate

[coral summit]

h a

[cobalt blade]

you can consume no endu charges and still tank w/e with your yknow 10 endu charges+40% less from IC

but you need to understand what does and doesnt kill you

[coral summit]

ok if u had to pick between losing 26 ms and curse immunity

what would u pick

[cobalt blade]

and exactly when it triggers

depends on res overcap and action speed immune

if action speed immune id drop curse

[coral summit]

res overcap is not very

[onyx adder]

Damn, all three of those guys must be so sad

[coral summit]

and not action speed immune

[cobalt blade]

fuck the ms then

temp chains maps are ass

[coral summit]

bet

i figured out how to fit adorned in this build but every single jewel needs the 2% reservation efficiency implicit

so uh

that's gonna be a fun time

[warm musk]

Any chance you'd share your build?

[karmic gust]

well you can tank less still so that is still making you weaker

[onyx adder]

I remember talking to a new player once and they were like i love temp chains maps

They make my white quicksilver flask last longer

[cobalt blade]

only if you manage to generate all those charges back in a second

[karmic gust]

well it would be a lot more popular if single possesed mob did not killed you right :d

[cobalt blade]

and you cant always do that :p

[onyx adder]

It would be a lot more popular if forgetting to press flask did not kill you too

But u cant fix that by changing thiefs grip

Spikey is still the only human being ive ever personally met who is sufficiently neurodivergent to use that item

[cobalt blade]

coruscating?

ive ran coruscating builds multiple times lol

also wardloopers which have the same problem but worse since you just instant die if you fuck up

[karmic gust]

yea but thats just skill issue

thats fine :d

[coral summit]

hmm

yeah the only two outright things this build cant tank before map mods/funny valdo shit are uber eater sphere fuckup and memory game

i think everything else it can tank

[cobalt blade]

wait you cant tank memory game??

thats not super hard to tank

[coral summit]

no, divine flesh makes that really hard lol

[cobalt blade]

also means you cant tank brain blast

fair actually it would crush your armour lmao

[coral summit]

yep

its like the one attack in the game where i take more chaos dmg than lightning

[cobalt blade]

brain blast does like atleast double or triple the damage xd

[coral summit]

after mitigation

[onyx adder]

U know what divine flesh cant ever tank

[coral summit]

I mean, if I used vaal arctic armor

[onyx adder]

Atziri reflect

Its actual aids

[cobalt blade]

incorrect

mageblood flask craft gives generic reduced reflected damage taken

therefore it can tank it