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[past mantle]

Bro what.

[split maple]

reduce life ffs

[lilac parcel]

where is it

[past mantle]

Bro.

I can't.

[lilac parcel]

yes i clicked that

[past mantle]

Why?

[fossil mural]

remove the life brother in christ

[past mantle]

Why would you click both?

[fossil mural]

didnt you just say

you wont bother

and tbh

he cant read

so like

[lilac parcel]

oh i get it one is more one is reduced

[grizzled lily]

forgot either 5% on block or reservation

[lilac parcel]

it gets better one in 2 k shields

[past mantle]

This is kinda crazy.

[grizzled lily]

just do fossils

[past mantle]

You just don't listen.

[grizzled lily]

lol

[lilac parcel]

yes maybe the tree will drop that configuration , t3-t2-t1 maybe something like that

[past mantle]

Tree was better than fossils.

[tight plinth]

[grizzled lily]

im a tree hater

[past mantle]

No bro, you just don't understand how the tree works.

Log into the game and look at the tree.

[lilac parcel]

do it then please

[tranquil sedge]

flowars pulling out punctuation and everything

[lilac parcel]

do it then and put it here so i can see

teach me please

[grizzled lily]

bro

[past mantle]

I always use punctuation.

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/teach-me-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-gif-8215241

[lilac parcel]

here is the webssite do it https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe1&b=7&bi=7747&m=genesis&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=21&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&req={"1980":{"l":62,"g":2},"2007":{"l":69,"g":1},"2008":{"l":86,"g":3}}&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={%22limit%22:88}&gns={%22weight%22:{%221%22:{%221000%22:1,%22-400%22:1},%224%22:{%221000%22:1}},%22tiers%22:{%220%22:{%2250%22:1}}}

[split maple]

dont forget you get multiple items per tree

[tranquil sedge]

even if so its still funny and i approve

[split maple]

and that anyways block chance is better than hybrid es

[lilac parcel]

one in 300 its good 🙂

[split maple]

just 3x harder to hit

[grizzled lily]

the tree gave me overqual triple t1 necrotic and regalias this league

it can drop that shield

in like 10 tries

max

[tranquil sedge]

why tf is tree even being talked about

when this a simple ass 3p recomb

[past mantle]

Average was like 5 per T2/T2/T2 shield or better.

[split maple]

coz blood is free

[lilac parcel]

this this

this exactly this

[past mantle]

Because generating these shields costs a lot less lol.

[lilac parcel]

tree is garbage

[tranquil sedge]

time is money too

[tight plinth]

this wont happen if we had better ground loot

[tranquil sedge]

also like unless ur doing this on 30 qual bases its going to be dirt cheap anyway

[lilac parcel]

well you would have to check every shield on the ground

[tranquil sedge]

just go recomb it and call it a day

[split maple]

my humble treetree chest

[grizzled lily]

stupid numbers

[tranquil sedge]

look at mister perfect adorned with his perfect tree drops

[grizzled lily]

tbh

[split maple]

its t3-t2-t1 prefixes 😛

[tranquil sedge]

its not even that his chest is hard to make without tree

but its stupid that tree can even drop smth readymade like that

[split maple]

suffix owuld be pain slightly

but yeah getting it for free beats crafting

[tranquil sedge]

you just frac int lol and start there

or resist works too

either one

then eldritch chaos or reforge element harvest to finish suffixes

[grizzled lily]

and its even more stupid that u have infinite orbs of regrets

[split maple]

was thinking more recombi prefix

since denses are kinda painge again but yea

[tranquil sedge]

for a 1200 es chest u just dense spam

[split maple]

true that

if grasping mails pans out 🙏

[tranquil sedge]

especially since u can just do this on overqual

still tryna finish minmaxing before league ends?

[split maple]

i just realized its the only treetree slot i got left on char

[split maple]

semi

if something pans out it will, otherwise i wont worry

just blasting out unique collection rn

[past mantle]

Woaghe...

[tawdry olive]

ayo?

[tight plinth]

looks AI

[split maple]

practically i want to replace 2 of my jewels so need a few morigans, impractically i want abyssal socket shield which is royal pita since hollow fossils dont work on shields & i also want es on block on it

also want to go for abyssal boots but truthfuly i am not sure they beat current ones rly

otherwise the thingie is pretty done 😄

[past mantle]

Maybe the tree isn't bad maybe you just don't know what you're doing if you're taking both increased chance to get defence mods and reduced chance to get defence mods at the same time.

[lilac parcel]

its still garbage mate

1% chance for 2 t2 mdos and 1 t1 its garbage

[split maple]

you know you get multiple items per gift

[lilac parcel]

yes

do them all t1

[split maple]

and that you are pretty fucking happy with %hybrid instead of mana or with block

[past mantle]

Oh look, thing I just got from the tree.

[lilac parcel]

its a simple recombination

[past mantle]

Why would I do that?

[lilac parcel]

we had that for 2 years

[split maple]

so pracitcally you get a good hit once per 5 wombies or smh

[split maple]

its 9 bases and shitload of dust

vs doing like 5 maps

[past mantle]

T1, T2, T1, T1, T2, T1 mods.

Woah!

It's almost like the tree cuts half of the low tiers away!

[lilac parcel]

its nto that much

[split maple]

3pref is 9 bases on avg, no?

[grizzled lily]

thats all im gonna say

[lilac parcel]

i literly did this in one day

[past mantle]

I don't care?

[lilac parcel]

had 1,5 milion dust

[grizzled lily]

tree is stupid

[past mantle]

I didn't ask?

It's quite impressive just how much you don't understand what you're talking about.

[split pagoda]

huh, tree is insane

[lilac parcel]

im talking about ggg needing to make a good league and increase loot drop cause they start to have competition and the game will die

[past mantle]

I used it for cost effective crafts to then gamble on and sell off.

[lilac parcel]

what are you talkign about ?

[past mantle]

I am talking about the thing you jumped on my dick for.

[lilac parcel]

chill kido :))

[grizzled lily]

LMAO

[past mantle]

You not knowing how the tree works, trying to prove me wrong by asking for a picture and then trying to recreate my tree wrong?

[lilac parcel]

dont get pumped brother why you simping so hard is just a game after all :))

[final owl]

Man I didn't have nostradamusing the end of PoE on my bingo card for this conversation

[grizzled lily]

?

[past mantle]

If it's just a game how about you learn something about it.

[split pagoda]

ur the guy who said tree is garbage cant expect people to take you seriously lol

[grizzled lily]

tree needs to go

triple t1

[vapid moat]

why could that snowstorm not have hit on the week after 3.28 release

[grizzled lily]

the tree is unethical

[fossil mural]

I am not gamecist, but...

dota players

am I right

[dapper parrot]

im dota player

[past mantle]

Is there any kind of -ist you aren't?

[crisp obsidian]

#other-games

[fossil mural]

not a commie 😠

[lilac parcel]

i go cook my kid some food , take it easy guys flo chill brother

[split pagoda]

also craftofexile is wrong for genesis tree, its some necropolis port or something lol

[split maple]

coe was hella sloppy this league

[lilac parcel]

and leave the dick in the pants flo :))

[split maple]

like for fbl currencies they just coppied sanctified fossil

without any data

[split pagoda]

yeah was surprised to see how bad their genesis tree section was lol

cant rlly trust stuff alot of stuff on coe anymore

[past mantle]

450+ shields with the mod.

[split maple]

like smh is that weights are unreliable due to them not being in datamine anymore

[past mantle]

450 shields without it.

[split maple]

and smh is posting halfbaked section without disclaimer

[grizzled lily]

cant expect much from a standard player tbh

[past mantle]

Can't expect much from a guy who can't open the game to read that the tree has 125 modifier tree rating.

"Tree underpowered" guys can't stop outing themselves as illiterate.

https://tenor.com/view/baking-bread-kneading-dough-cooking-gif-25582283

[opal ingot]

yeah i got a triple t1 at 22% XD

it was so mad ridiculous

[grizzled lily]

the tree is almost as powerful as kingsmarch

kingsmarch gives bubblegum

[split maple]

nerf provisioning part of tree and keep ancients at 1 jewel per 20 pls 🙏

[grizzled lily]

tree gives the bases

nice SSF experience

[past mantle]

Provisionings aren't going to stay as they are.

Just no way lol.

[opal ingot]

and the party guys sell the uniques for dusting

[past mantle]

They completely delete the need for common fossil uses. 😴

[split maple]

my fave part of tree was printing runics

[grizzled lily]

and theyre keeping it

[split maple]

saved so so much alt rolling

[grizzled lily]

theyre keeping the tree

kingsmarch

[opal ingot]

wait rly lmao

[grizzled lily]

theyre keeping the mirror making boats

and the t0 printer tree

maybe thats the groun loot

[split maple]

like 1 per 4-5 gifts

[grizzled lily]

we were talking ab

[split maple]

just split to isolate and slap into recombi 😄

then to realize veiled spell dmg would be more dmg once wand was finished -.-

[past mantle]

No judgements on that until we see what they do with it.

[opal ingot]

oh wait

i just realized you meant like the runic mod

[past mantle]

No crafting mechanic makes it into the game without getting tuned down since like Essences.

[opal ingot]

i thought like runic bases

ward base

[past mantle]

Don't tell people but you can set up boats to give you good gear too.

[gloomy talon]

they need to do something about loot lmao

[past mantle]

Is it time for buzzword of the league?

[gloomy talon]

kingsmarch give you more loots than maps does

[tight plinth]

i heard loot

[split maple]

loot is ok for last 3 days or so

[karmic gust]

mod weights are not in datamine anymore?

[past mantle]

Yep.

[split pagoda]

ive seen people still think + phys with -attack isnt the best way to make phys axes with genesis tree

[karmic gust]

doomed

[past mantle]

Poedb has a notification at the top saying they stopped updating those.

[karmic gust]

every useful info getting removed

[split pagoda]

cuz they look at this and think its multiplicative, when in reality doing + phys and -atk gives you 920% extra phys and 0.2 multi to other atk mods

[karmic gust]

my site also got kinda fcked by drop weights not being in datamine either anymore

[opal ingot]

next league they're going to update every mod weight across the board and hide it from us

[split maple]

yeah since poe2 ea launch

[tight plinth]

why you do this gegege

[opal ingot]

something something community discovery

[past mantle]

Really? That long?

[brazen vector]

Feel the weight

The friction

[tight plinth]

they trying to force what happened with poe1 in the beginning?

[opal ingot]

somewhat fitting answer to a different question

first part

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-gif-3752614168229208984

[karmic gust]

idk why some of this stuff even has to be hidden

should be shown in game in first place :d

[past mantle]

Mod weights really shouldn't be hidden.

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/its-because-gif-22684212

[split maple]

the one case where ik for sure weights are wrong is that correct blocker for unveiling +aoe on helmet is pdr when focused and not zombies like coe thinks

prolly a bunch other cases floating around too

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/yon-jonathan-marmot-scream-yon-scream-jonathan-scream-gif-3547319591164560719

[fossil mural]

so community comes together to unveil the mystery 🙂

at least there is recomb

for some weight data

[split maple]

anyways to verify mod weights its theoretically possible with predictable recombi hovers yea

just practically too much work

[tight plinth]

lets all work together guys

🙄

[fossil mural]

How good is toxic rain really? I am assuming damage comes from overlaps

[tight plinth]

yes

[grizzled lily]

its good

for heist

[fossil mural]

Tbh most of the mods fucking suck

[grizzled lily]

xddd

[fossil mural]

So no point in testing them

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[fossil mural]

The issue is I have to wep swap totems

For rain

[tight plinth]

eh?

[fossil mural]

If I want to tank exp

[tight plinth]

youre scaling hit TR?

[fossil mural]

Ill have to go block

[opal ingot]

im really feeling the urge to ssf to 2 voidstones for practice

[karmic gust]

well you need to have whole mod pool accurate for proper crafting simulation

so even if they suck you need the info

[opal ingot]

but i also kinda dont want to play until i know the builds i want to play are getting nerfed or not

[past mantle]

You need to know the total pool for anything to be accurate.

[opal ingot]

by the time the livestream, then the patch notes come out, ill probably lose this interest

guess it's just better to watch a 7 to 10 hour run of 2 voidstones

[tight plinth]

what builds were you planning to do?

[opal ingot]

pconc and mamba

though probably not mamba

cuz i need lots of cash for that

[karmic gust]

what would they even nerf about pconc

lol

[analog nest]

Guys someone knows a good winter orb build ES based that is tanky and fast clear? boss damage can be mediocre idc xd

[tight plinth]

pconc not gonna get touched, slight chance about mamba

[opal ingot]

i dont know 🥹

they nerfed fire trap

[past mantle]

Uses your utility flasks now instead.

[karmic gust]

true

[opal ingot]

when everyone is memeing about rf builds low st prior to that

[tight plinth]

that is true, they do be nerfing shits for shits and giggle sometimes

[past mantle]

Yeah, things like GROUND LOOT.

[opal ingot]

did someone say GROUND LOOT

[fossil mural]

Right total weight would change too 😩

[opal ingot]

i remember the days of pre kalandra, when we had GROUND LOOT

[past mantle]

Joining the war against ground loot on the side of hating ground loot.

[grizzled lily]

i love ground loot

[heady cliff]

we had GROUND LOOT in mercs too

[past mantle]

Oh shit Snap, didn't know you were here.

[karmic gust]

i remember the days of last league

when we had ground loot

they just nerfed everrything for no reason this league

[heady cliff]

and before that, back to basics also had GROUND LOOT

[fossil mural]

Overlaps

[opal ingot]

yeah it's your boy snap

[karmic gust]

its not possible to nerf those

[slender adder]

Can I still upgrade my old preem tabs from before merchant tabs were a thing? Or was that highk limited time only

[karmic gust]

because you can always shoot pconc under your feet and have 100% overlaps with whatever many projs you have

[heady cliff]

just consider all explosions as a single skill, ez

[opal ingot]

according to this answer, yes

[fossil mural]

"Additional projectiles land randomly in an area around the first projectile"

[slender adder]

Hell yeahhhh

Thank you

[opal ingot]

no

[past mantle]

Big fan, love the newest video, it was soooo good that you shouldn't make any more ever again. 👼

[karmic gust]

that would be basically rework to the skill but sure they can do that i guess

[fossil mural]

I need to reroll my jugg into chief

😩

[karmic gust]

might as well uninstall at that point ngl

[fossil mural]

I feel like chief pops wouldnt be too good for exp

Wait, can you block them?

Are they spell?

No right

[past mantle]

Secondary damage.

Can't block.

[tight plinth]

time to clean my character slots

[opal ingot]

let me help you unburden your divines

kidding, how many characters have u had so far

[fossil mural]

Still an issue of max res and red damage taken

😩

[tight plinth]

i dont have any anymore, everything goes to the homies in the guild

i also didnt have many because they nerfed ground loot

[gritty basin]

hey they said that the tree will remain after the keepers league but graftblood will be removed

does that mean we can still use it in standard after the next update?

will it just cost something else?

[fossil mural]

They didnt say blood is gone exactly

Just that blood in the grafts will be gone

[stuck phoenix]

And that grafts, which is the only way to store the blood, will be gone

[fossil mural]

Maybe the tree will get blood directly

Or something

[normal hedge]

maybe you just need to throw the wombgift without any blood at all

[stuck phoenix]

I bet the blood is just gone

[gritty basin]

yeah that sounds reasonable

[past mantle]

That's my hope.

[fossil mural]

Hopefully lmao

[tight plinth]

i bet you will be able to equip grafts with the breach ascendancy

[gritty basin]

that would also make sense

[karmic gust]

i think they should switch the system to be more kingsmarch like

every hour you will need to water the tree

[fossil mural]

With timers

[karmic gust]

otherwise it will die

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[past mantle]

Farmville 2.

[karmic gust]

every week you can collect rewards

after they grow

[normal hedge]

yeah and every wombgift you use also needs 100k gold

[fossil mural]

And if you are offline

You need to pay map farmers

[karmic gust]

also might as well put the tree to kingsmarch

[past mantle]

Honestly gold might be a reasonable balancer.

Another gold sink.

[fossil mural]

Why does every god ask for money

Fucking religion

😩

[olive cosmos]

Hello

[gritty basin]

damn bro

[normal hedge]

how else they'll be rich

[lilac parcel]

pitty

[fossil mural]

Ditty

[normal hedge]

diddy

[fossil mural]

Tiddy

[past mantle]

Really don't care about grafts being gone idk.

[grizzled lily]

i love getting teased by ggg

[past mantle]

They sure existed and were there.

[fossil mural]

The only thing I know is they made impale chance not feel ass to get

[lilac parcel]

the magister one is so hard to get this is 2 weeks of alteration spam

[heady cliff]

calm down, Satan

[gritty basin]

do we have some info about foulborn items?

[warm musk]

Is beast the only "good" farm in standard if you don't have legacy mf gear?

[lilac parcel]

i farm harbingers maps and scarabs on t16.5 rolled and crafted by me

[grizzled lily]

wow

ur tough

[lilac parcel]

and i get 1-3 div a map i think

profit

[warm musk]

Ok ty

[lilac parcel]

and lots lots of gold

100 k a map

[normal hedge]

farming scarabs in 16.5s is literally 40% less loot compared to fortress

[warm musk]

How long does it take to complete 1 map?

[ocean folio]

what are you looking for exactly?

[opal ingot]

how can we fix this problem as a community

[gritty basin]

what Happens next patch

[normal hedge]

add barrels to every single map

[warm musk]

Ty, follow up questions. You get good supply of this?

[lilac parcel]

well depends on your build

for me 5 min

[tawdry olive]

Barrel support

[lilac parcel]

what do you mean by supplies?

[heady cliff]

Horned Scarab of Explosive Barrels

[warm musk]

I assume in standard there's less supply of scarabs

[ocean folio]

take a look at #poe1-news
there is a post about what happens at the end of 3.27

[lilac parcel]

im self-sufficient in maps and scarabs

[warm musk]

That's w/o MF gear right?

[lilac parcel]

i have quant ger , but without also

look at my scarabs i only use 2 scarabs

harbingers

and harbingers that makes them boss harbingers thats all

[warm musk]

How can you have quant gear and not also have it at the same time?

[normal hedge]

guys its easy to fix ground loot, just swap the monster's drop tables to the barrel's ones

[lilac parcel]

normal habingers scarabs drop like 3-4 in a stack

[tight plinth]

i have so many witches

90% of my characters

[lilac parcel]

i do have it on some maps depends on the mods

this are the kind of maps i farm

i make them myself roll chaos on them then beast craft on them more mods

[tawdry olive]

Say no more, monsters now have the same drop table as the barrels on Twilight Strand in act 1

[lilac parcel]

you can sell a sanctuary map with one div in standard

[warm musk]

Ty for the info I'll try something similar to that instead

[lilac parcel]

what build you do ?

[warm musk]

No clue yet. An armour stacker if they destroy choir manastacking

[normal hedge]

thats prolly a buff

[warm musk]

I don't have any characters in standard just saved up some gear and extra currency for armour/manastacking or mfa manastackere

[lilac parcel]

i do strand maps to get simmulacrum shards they drop between 180 and 280 a map

when i hit that memory strand that converts item into gold i make like 300 k a map

i mostly do it for kingsmark and dusting and recombinations onestly :))

[warm musk]

Idk what that is I usually don't map nor craft. I haven't even visited kingsmarch this league

[lilac parcel]

i dont map eiter

in kingsmarch jsut 24/7 farm

and dusting

and recomb

and sent 50 million ships

[karmic gust]

have you tried sending 1 ship instead

[lilac parcel]

:)) i get you

1 ship with 50 mil value

zero up to 7 shards

but mostly 3 to 5

[stuck phoenix]

That's not how you spell pity

[lilac parcel]

the ideaa is that im a father a worker a husband dont have much time to play during the week , so i farm 2-3 maps just to keep the farmers going

[split pagoda]

ill play armorstacker when u can go transcendence again

[lilac parcel]

i speak 4 languages man , half of each

[whole bluff]

I think he meant a cave factory. I could see that being called pitty

[split pagoda]

or some other way to solve ele max hit pops up

[stuck phoenix]

I speak 2 languages fluently

[whole bluff]

Like a smithy but you make pits

[lilac parcel]

you could 4 but half of it

[stuck phoenix]

And a few select words of a third

[heady cliff]

casual

[heady cliff]

is that third a russian by any chance?

[stuck phoenix]

Español

[whole bluff]

I speak an arbitrary amount Danish, Norwegian, Latin, Spanish, Italian, and some others

[lilac parcel]

lol man hvofor taller do dansk?

[whole bluff]

I got hugs and handshakes after singing Time To Say Goodbye once

[lilac parcel]

i live in denmark :))

[warm musk]

I just want to share that I only have 30 more runs left before I finally stop farming Uber Shaper and reach my final league goal of doing 13k runs. That's all!

[whole bluff]

Inte flytande. Men jag är svensk

[lilac parcel]

horrible country must move to norway

[tight plinth]

oui

[lilac parcel]

you live in malmo area ?

clsoe to the bridge cph?

[stuck phoenix]

That's not how you spell Malmö smh

[tranquil sedge]

oh that was you?

[whole bluff]

Nah, fjollträsk

[tranquil sedge]

jfc lmfao

there's 'built different' and then there's built like you LOL

[whole bluff]

(Stockholm)

[past mantle]

Legend.

[gritty epoch]

13k wtf

[lilac parcel]

nice city i loved it when was there

[past mantle]

I hope you kept the data on the drops.

[gritty epoch]

Father let me help you

[radiant heron]

If they make Crit lacerate glad good again...

[whole bluff]

I think I likely remain here unless something big happens. The northern suburbs is my home

[past mantle]

They won't.

[tranquil sedge]

the funny part is he isn't even the guy i was initially thinking of lol, based on the wording of this reddit post one of his reddit posts

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1pxmh1l/hard_drive_boom_so_heres_my_findings_from_5000/

[gritty epoch]

Assume 5min per run that 45days of Uber shaper

[warm musk]

Yep that's me

[tranquil sedge]

oh it is?

dam

[gritty epoch]

Pure dedication

[tranquil sedge]

234 sublimes

damn

[gritty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[lilac parcel]

i travel to malmo like every 2 weeks to buy alcohool and food

in malmo

[past mantle]

Mad respect.

[lilac parcel]

with your weak svensk krona

[whole bluff]

Malmö is cool

[past mantle]

So what's your opinion on shaper?

[warm musk]

Idk if it's just my sample but Starforge is more common than Sublime

[past mantle]

Good fight?

[whole bluff]

Thank (M) I guess/think, idk

[warm musk]

Sirus is better

[whole bluff]

Or thank all our politicians

[past mantle]

What's next on the chopping block?

[lilac parcel]

:))

[warm musk]

Fortunately. none. I have thesis this sem so Standard it is for me

[lilac parcel]

i wish once you kill any boss to be able to remove the invulnerability phases they get

harvest sirus everyone

they should have it only once for the story

[warm musk]

Tbh I just finished most of the backlogs of shows that I wanted to watch

[whole bluff]

Btw, what if they made a harvest keystone that made harvest mobs unlock free crafts instead of dropping juice?

[lilac parcel]

free crafts no man lifeforce to precious

[warm musk]

I think 15k+ is possible tho if some crazy person farms like 200+ per day

[lilac parcel]

to versatile

[past mantle]

Sounds like a ssf only keystone, no?

[lilac parcel]

but more lifeforce would be good

[split pagoda]

then again keeping some friction in the form of invuln phases can help keep the bosses profitable for more lower end players

[whole bluff]

It's mainly an idea for SSF, that you'd get way more but less flexibility

[whole bluff]

Mostly yup

[past mantle]

You know what they say about SSF.

[tight plinth]

the vegans of poe?

[whole bluff]

They're gay? If they're gay girls are they by any chance bi with lots of tattoos and still slim?

[tranquil sedge]

why is why i can tolerate elder maps

[tight plinth]

another tuadh 2 stone run

[past mantle]

I don't really have anything, it was just a way to let you fill in what you think fits.

[whole bluff]

Ah, lul

[past mantle]

I think me and SSF players are polar opposites.

[tight plinth]

smite ascendant? dahek, is that a thing before armor stacking?

[whole bluff]

I can like some self-crafting for profit

[past mantle]

I like to mess around with mechanics and new items and builds and they like the gearing.

[split pagoda]

i like both trade and ssf, both fun experiences just quite different

[past mantle]

If I don't have access to almost every tool to make builds I sleep.

SSF is very different, yeah.

[lilac parcel]

ss forces you to craft

[past mantle]

I like it on occasion. When there's an event.

[lilac parcel]

you good at crafting ?

[whole bluff]

Prolly like most established players: I need an item, find a cool craft, make some extra, fund next few items (now and then), research market, leads to research meta, etc

[tight plinth]

i dont have the time nor the patience to make my jank ass builds in ssf

[past mantle]

I'm not good at crafting but I am able to read CoE so I'm like top 1% crafters.

[lilac parcel]

what you do when you need like a hinekora ?

the magic one beast ?

[past mantle]

I'm a big jank fan.

[split maple]

run 20 maps?

[past mantle]

That's why I was messing with the corpse explode in Phrecia.

[lilac parcel]

for 1

[whole bluff]

I play trade lul

[split maple]

like mors rly aint that bad of issue once build is online

[tight plinth]

jank is fun yep

[split pagoda]

Im yet to do an actual ssf leaguestart but I feel myself getting closer to doing it every league lol

[split maple]

2 scarb dupes them

[split pagoda]

so far my ssf playtime is in the form of fresh starts later in the leagues

[lilac parcel]

i aet 20 vultures on a trash craft

didnt hit anything

[past mantle]

I still have a CWDT flicker on the back burner I need to finish before end of league.

[split maple]

vultures are kinda easier than mors

just spam reports

tho its true you usually want bulk

and thats where you got to learn to settle a tad

[past mantle]

My white whale build, cwdt flicker.

There's like 6 things this league that enable it and they'll be either nerfed or gone after it xdd.

[tight plinth]

every time i get to a point i hit a wall in ssf, i look in coe how i need to craft my upgrades and i just give up seeing how many ess/fossil/harvest juice i need

[dense rock]

make a flicker build with enough selfdmg to trigger another flicker via cwdt on each attack

[lilac parcel]

why stopped man ?

[past mantle]

Oh wait hold on.

[lilac parcel]

why did you vaal it ?

[past mantle]

That's actually not a bad idea.

[split maple]

coz no motivation to farm enough mors for 6 corrupts on gild

like if i needed just one fair enough

[past mantle]

I have a 2nd CWDT, I could put in frost blink there.

[split maple]

but you never need just one

[past mantle]

So it would be doubly uncontrollable.

👀

This is the first time in like 8 months someone gave me good build suggestions.

[past mantle]

Now I HAVE to finish this build.

[dense rock]

flicker with high self dmg and cwdt+frost blink, cwdt+flame dash, cwdt+lightning warp and some uber disco mtx effect on everything. Make it seem like nonstop flashbangs going off on your screen while you perform warps every 0.2 secs

[lilac parcel]

what addorned you have ?

[past mantle]

Going to be using wave of conviction of trathus so that's there.

[lilac parcel]

bro wtf

[split maple]

ssf man

you should try it

[lilac parcel]

how ?

how you got that how much time ?

[split maple]

by getting lucky on second set of fragies

[dense rock]

that bullshit on ssf is some of the most unethical bullshit i have ever fucking witnessed

[lilac parcel]

mb in ssf

[past mantle]

Shoutout to the most underrated node ever.

[lilac parcel]

people who have mb should be slapped

[past mantle]

Rate my travel nodes.

[dense rock]

looks kinda mild compared to the stat stacker mercs from early poe2 😄

[split maple]

wretched cards

[past mantle]

I'm also really happy with this timeless.

[lilac parcel]

this not ssf man

[fossil mural]

look at adorned pf set ups rn

[past mantle]

11% pdr from these. 🐒

[fossil mural]

its literally all travel nodes

[lilac parcel]

it is lol

this league i got 2 cards for the mageblood

farmed it faster thru expeditions

[past mantle]

Build should end up with 10000 combined es + life pool that's recovering every single tick if I calced this right.

[tight plinth]

how do you mass complete your atlas in standard again?

[past mantle]

Do one map.

[lilac parcel]

old t16

[past mantle]

Should fill in to your most completed version.

[split maple]

make sure to do it in a way that bonus completes

[lilac parcel]

corrupted?

[split maple]

otherwise you just get basic completion without apoints

[dense rock]

just going around the outer edge of the entire tree picking stats and jewel sockets, aint it?

[fossil mural]

yeap

[dense rock]

figured as much 😛

[past mantle]

Still crazy to me they almost halves jewel slots.

So sadg.

Chat is this good?

[dense rock]

only if you convert 100% of elemental and chaos in to physical

[lilac parcel]

why the f they made capri sone straw out of paper , this makes me mad

[past mantle]

I was actually thinking of using the shield that converts ele to phys.

But shield is 8% pdr and max fire res, hard to say no to that.

Oh wait I can get +1 max end on a shield too and I don't care about the armour on it either.
That might be huge.

Okay that solves 90% unconditional PDR.

We love to see it.

And you know.

90% max res plus 50% less ele damage.

Oh and perma for uptime. Okay.

That might be strong?

[hard cliff]

fucked up

[lilac parcel]

my kid drinks it sometimes but i cant pierce the bag with that trash straw made out of paper

[hard cliff]

you gotta normalise him carrying around a personal quart of orange juice

maybe on some kind of rope

[lilac parcel]

im to stupid to understand

[proven tundra]

can someone help- i play on SG server, its ping is spiking super bad, i switch to NZ server (next best), however when i enter the Lab, it switches me back to the SG server in-game. is there a workaround?

[heady cliff]

ctrl-click for a new instance when you enter lab waypoint, maybe

[proven tundra]

ok thank u, ill try

[hard cliff]

I'm not really referencing anything just making a joke

[proven tundra]

that worked perfectly, i think it's throwing me back to the old instance. i didnt know it worked like that

[crisp obsidian]

Ye, gotta create a new one when switching servers

Only if it has been a long time or the instance crashed is when you don't need to

[tight plinth]

bro it didnt work 😭

only 1 completed

should it be old map?

[lilac parcel]

yes

[past mantle]

Yeah has to be previous league map.

[lilac parcel]

t16 corrupted old version

what if you dont have maps ?

cant find any no one sells tehm?

you have to take it again one by one ?

[past mantle]

Yeah.

But people just sell them.

[lilac parcel]

get one from the stash man from remove only

you should have tons no?

[tight plinth]

this looks old

[whole bluff]

That's a relic I think

[tight plinth]

yaaaas

[opal ingot]

hax

[lilac parcel]

you on standard?

[past mantle]

Okay back to normal numbers.

[tight plinth]

yeah im testing something

[whole bluff]

Man, I need to go to gym today. Instead of figuring out something I wanna do in keepers

Literal empty evening and poe1 is snooze

Do people expect lycia bloodline or herald effect nerfs in general?

[past mantle]

Heralds yes.

[whole bluff]

The buff part

[past mantle]

I don't think they'll be that severe. Requires a good chunk of set up to get it going.

[whole bluff]

Idc about herald of void autobomber

[past mantle]

I think the rest of Lycia won't be touched.

[brazen vector]

Buff effect in general will be axed

[whole bluff]

Rip

Maybe I have something I wanna do in poe1 then

[past mantle]

I feel like you need too many tats for it to be axeable.

[umbral crag]

Maybe they'll axe the initial power

Coz even at cheap it's insanely strong

Tats only make it stupid level of strong

[whole bluff]

Are heralds of purity/ash/agony also considered OP?

[umbral crag]

And even then its not even that expensive relatively

[whole bluff]

Cuz I don't wanna play flat heralds

But it's all giga so...

[past mantle]

Nah.

You're better off scaling those with rings instead I feel.

[fossil mural]

getting "nearby enemies have malediction" day one helmet is probably not a thing yea

[past mantle]

Herald of Ash kinda got hit hard and is mostly eh.

Might go back to Herald of Purity next league since this exists now.

[sleek ocean]

really excited to return to poe!

[lilac parcel]

wait a bit more until 6 of march

i really hope that that make a wish part of the videos they posted is about some altar where you wish for mirrors

[sleek ocean]

ofc for new league

[past mantle]

You can get 8 Heralds of Purity just running around and get up to 99% more damage for them from Lycia.
Sounds fun.

[sleek ocean]

i skipped phrecia 2

[past mantle]

Really just needed to double the max amount of minions for them to be fun.

[opal ingot]

get ready for phrecia 3

with 2 weeks of uptime

[past mantle]

Is there any source of minions can impale at all? Is it just purely the impale gem?

Impale gem and cluster node.

That's not great huh.

[sleek ocean]

dreadnbanner used to be there but removed

[past mantle]

Do I just do unnatural strength then because pure phys sure looks like cheeks on minions.

[fickle glen]

I miss playing my steam games 😭

[lilac parcel]

skyrim on a console?

i only played it once on switcch , sold the switch the next day

[fickle glen]

That’s computer

[past mantle]

That's clearly steam.

[lilac parcel]

dont they have steam on consoles also?

[past mantle]

Nope.

[fickle glen]

Seriously?

[past mantle]

What asc is even good for minions nowadays?

[karmic gust]

how would console publishers scam people if steam was on them

[lilac parcel]

dont know have they ?

[karmic gust]

ofc they dont

[lilac parcel]

never had console only for like 2 days

[fickle glen]

No

[dry tree]

Consoles don't run wandows my guy

[karmic gust]

also you can see mouse cursor there lol

[lilac parcel]

i had ps1 like in the 90s

[dry tree]

Did it run steam?

[lilac parcel]

:)) no man you know what a ps1 is ?

it was with cd-s

[karmic gust]

wasnt ps2 able to run linux for a while, so ps2 technically could :d

[fickle glen]

I used to go to an arcade place that had one when I first played it

[lilac parcel]

yeah me also paied by the hour

it was like 10 cents

[fickle glen]

Yo LOL

[past mantle]

There was a lot of smoke and steam coming out of it when it was running, does that count?

[lilac parcel]

ma father gave me half an hour on saturdays , we were poor af

[fickle glen]

I used to sell fruits to go play in the arcade 🤣

[whole bluff]

Imo, it's not a no-brainer to not use multiple heralds

[lilac parcel]

recycle glass bottles :))

5 botles was an hour

[tawdry olive]

holy triple negative

[whole bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fickle glen]

Multi herald is good for witch

[karmic gust]

just drink 5 bottles while playing for hour, infinite gaming glitch

[whole bluff]

It means what it means though

[past mantle]

That's like 4 negatives, you lost me.

[brazen vector]

I just want a herald style ascendancy in core

[lilac parcel]

well at least i know habibi is over 25 :)) i wish discord forced people to say real age , we really need internet id

[livid quarry]

get ur coffee and energy drinks rdy for league start

[karmic gust]

there is lycia and elementalist how many more of them do you want lol

[whole bluff]

Phys spell with: purity/ash/agony, and all dmg can poison, ends up with a higher dmg multiplier than just 1 of them

[fickle glen]

Witch???

[brazen vector]

Elementalist is just a jack of all trades

[past mantle]

You should combine purity with either ash or agony, yeah.

[whole bluff]

Even though lone messenger exists

[past mantle]

Lone Messenger is not very usable.

[whole bluff]

Yeah

[past mantle]

I think it's there for HoT builds only.

[fickle glen]

I think they should rework elementalist tbh

[tranquil umbra]

wrong, elementalist will never be ballin'

[fickle glen]

That golem auto respawn should be a support gem not an ascendancy

[tranquil umbra]

that
would be stupid icl

[brazen vector]

[whole bluff]

Could just be default golem behaviour

[fickle glen]

Golems aren’t meant for witch only

[whole bluff]

I mean, they shouldnt be

[fossil mural]

they are

[brazen vector]

Just link golems to cast on x and you have auto respawns too /s

[fossil mural]

I did that in acts

[tranquil umbra]

truth nuke

[fossil mural]

automation ballin

[past mantle]

Look at what you did, you let GGG know they forgot something and now Elementalist is replacing Stepth Curry. Happy with yourself?

[narrow yoke]

i dont know why everyone doesnt just grab a holy hammer....its obviously meta!

[tranquil umbra]

cast on death stone golem

[whole bluff]

You can put golem on BMC

[solid laurel]

Is the attack rate capped at 30 or am i misremembering

[fossil mural]

I am 98% starting cf glad

unless that gets nerfed

[karmic gust]

actions per second are

[past mantle]

~30 for non-channels.

[fickle glen]

Is that what they mean by ballin?

[tranquil umbra]

corrupting fever?

[whole bluff]

1 action per frame, channel and multistrike are different

[solid laurel]

seeing poe ninja people with 64, figures its just pob warrioring

[past mantle]

What does glad do for CF?

[heady cliff]

i might start extremely meme kinetic fusilade occultist with anathema

[solid laurel]

on viper strike

[fossil mural]

he has block

[karmic gust]

no thats multistrike

[whole bluff]

Nah, multistrike

[karmic gust]

multistrike is 1 action for 4 attacks

[solid laurel]

OH

[tawdry olive]

anything that starts with "extremely meme" sounds good to me

[whole bluff]

So they attack twice per frame I would assume. I don't know how it works

[fickle glen]

Pretty sure it’s 1 for 3

[whole bluff]

Awakened multistrike just became 33% extra more dmg

[solid laurel]

So its possible to hit 120 attacks per second with woke multi technically? 😂

I think my pc would implode

[karmic gust]

well im assuming these ppl arent poor

[heady cliff]

and that is reflected in its price

[karmic gust]

and have woke multistrike

[tawdry olive]

woke multi my GOAT

[whole bluff]

Then flicker it

[fickle glen]

I am poor!

[past mantle]

Yes, in theory.

[karmic gust]

skill issue smh

[whole bluff]

Youre gonna have no idea where you are at all times

[heady cliff]

Just stop being poor then.

[fickle glen]

Ok!

[past mantle]

Channels just count as one action per channel so those can go above 30 very easily.

[whole bluff]

And in fact, you're in 4 locations per frame

[tawdry olive]

int acc stack casually reaching 30 attacks per second and can go higher, i love poe

[heady cliff]

And you always moved but never moving.

[fossil mural]

Awa multistrike is only more damage than normal multi if you dont hold walk

🤷

[past mantle]

Put that arctic armour on.

[dusty mesa]

awa multi on my spooders

[past mantle]

Awakened multi on my skulls.

[fossil mural]

I bet they hold walk too

[whole bluff]

Awakened cascade on my bladefall.

[dusty mesa]

man maybe I should play spooders again

[karmic gust]

minions just get stuck in place with multistrike thats why its not the best for clear there

cant even cancel animations, so stupid smh

[dusty mesa]

solve clear with occy pops

ez

[past mantle]

Minions finish all 3/4 hits.

[karmic gust]

i was swapping multistrrike with melee splash i believe on spiders when i played them

[past mantle]

You just remove multistrike for clear.

[dusty mesa]

yea thats what you do

I only throw multistrike on bosses

[past mantle]

I embraced ruthless for my ele hit build instead of multistrike.

I never knew you could stop so many uber moves with stun.

[lilac parcel]

iks there a tool like awakener poe trade ? that you just hover over a unique item and it shows you dust value ?

[fickle glen]

Yo, why is this not a white colored gem?

[karmic gust]

if you had morer damage there wouldnt be moves to stop smh

[steel parrot]

anyone knows why you no longer respawn on waypoint when you respawn? Same when another player teleports to your area

[stoic horizon]

because its blue

[past mantle]

I wish.

[fickle glen]

It should be white since it’s universal

[dusty mesa]

so do we think kboc is getting hit

[past mantle]

Uber Elder don't care, uber elder will finish his slam.

[stoic horizon]

wait till you learn about empower and enchance

[karmic gust]

i dont think kboc needs to get hit much really

[past mantle]

And then I will accidentally save myself by having him get stunned out of it.

[karmic gust]

without bugged tornado graft 1/3 of your damage is gone already

[opal ingot]

granted, but it can only fit on white sockets

[karmic gust]

and hopefully they will nerf the amulet and thats it

[fickle glen]

Don’t you agree? These miscellaneous gems needs to be white

[opal ingot]

kinda feels like half to me tbh

[stoic horizon]

i dont really care ngl

[fickle glen]

No, white can fit on any color

[heady cliff]

they are RGB instead, thats trendy

[past mantle]

Them having colour is a benefit.

[opal ingot]

not for this one

[fickle glen]

The benefit is?

[opal ingot]

we need drawbacks

[karmic gust]

depends on your positioning i guess but could be

[heady cliff]

being affected by +x to str/int/dex gems

[fickle glen]

Where does it say that?

[sand glen]

it can be affected by that is what they are saying

[stoic horizon]

in game code

[past mantle]

Things like this.

[fickle glen]

Ok I gotchu

[past mantle]

It namely comes up for Empower.

The other two not so much.

I think Enlighten is hard capped even.

Nvm it ain't.

[toxic token]

So does anybody play like the regular mode after ur the league is done or do every player just play leagues

[past mantle]

Most people just do leagues.

[stoic horizon]

both exist

but most do league only yeah

[fickle glen]

I play standard

[stoic horizon]

most dont even last till the end of a league

[toxic token]

Fair

[past mantle]

It has the new stuff and downtime between leagues is like a week so no real reason to standard basically.

[stoic horizon]

standard is just for testing random stuff

[fickle glen]

Says you! I am building my army in standard

[stoic horizon]

and for newbies who cant get used to losing a character

[past mantle]

Standard is completely untenable. Legacy gear is a completely different.

[dusty mesa]

I'm mainly considering it for the poison wander anyway

[karmic gust]

there its more likely they will just nerf the light radius stuff

[cosmic raptor]

I love grok

[past mantle]

Are people running that outside of acts?

[karmic gust]

no clue

[frigid wedge]

a couple ppl

[stoic horizon]

grok is this fake?

[frigid wedge]

not many

[cosmic raptor]

No no

[past mantle]

I was levelling with it and it didn't feel very pushable to end game.

[karmic gust]

i mean its 1k flat if you cant push endgame with it then idk what are you doing

more like 1.5k i guess

[past mantle]

You're giving a lot of item slots for that tho.

[karmic gust]

your weapons and thats it

you can get light radius on rares otherwise

as upgrades

[past mantle]

Not really.

[slow sonnet]

Sometimes playing standard is fun

Like if I have a guy still in standard I play

[past mantle]

Unless you're going to throw helicals at the build, rings and helmet get a total of 45%.

[karmic gust]

i mean obviously you use helicals

[past mantle]

For a total of 85%, another 40% being from the weapons.

[karmic gust]

why wouldnt you?

[past mantle]

Without mirroring them that's still pretty lowge.

[crimson spear]

Is getting a gem to level 17 closer to one-third or one-half of the total experience needed to get it to level 20?

[karmic gust]

its 22% radius, and that is like 80 flat, how is that low

[dusty mesa]

I just farmed t16s with it and I didn't struggle for damage once lol

and I didn't really scale it for past that, but it maps comfortably

[past mantle]

You can just Kalandra ring a good helical so shouldn't be that bad to get like 140%.

[tawdry olive]

going from 19 to 20 takes more exp than going from 1 to 19 iirc, maybe some gems are different but thats the general case
of course, not counting gems with weird level caps

[past mantle]

That's like 1k flat average.

[stoic horizon]

if my math is right then its 1/9 roughly

[crimson spear]

Thanks. Not the answer I wanted, but it is information.

How did you do your math?

[karmic gust]

and theres also 30% on mastery

[tawdry olive]

yea cant give you the specifics, but based on that, 1->17 is definitely less than 1 half of the total exp needed

[stoic horizon]

taken exp values from wiki, added all values to lvl 17 and divided by all values up to 20

[dusty mesa]

and 10% on light of divinity

[crimson spear]

Pretty annoying. But I can work with it.

[past mantle]

So that's about 180% radius? Yeah, seems goodge.

No way you don't run wreath on that tho right?

That's almost 100% inc aoe.

[karmic gust]

well depends on build

[crimson spear]

I tried looking for exp values on the wiki but couldn't find it

[karmic gust]

obvviously on poison you cant

otherwise sure

[dusty mesa]

I ran wreath, but yea I didn't do poison

[tawdry olive]

you need to search for the specific gem

[stoic horizon]

total exp column in the level progression in any gem's page

[karmic gust]

example of helical upgrade on poison build tho over single loris lul

[crimson spear]

Ah, thanks

[past mantle]

There's an XP section.

[split maple]

what if we go lowlife

and double fbl loris

[stoic horizon]

ah wait the total exp is all exp since lvl 0 did it wrong then

[karmic gust]

idk what foulborn loris even does ngl

[dusty mesa]

your damage is lucky on low life

[split maple]

its kinda op

[stoic horizon]

it is

used it in phrecia

[karmic gust]

oh thats pretty cute

[split maple]

deezel running that on low life bows

[stoic horizon]

also its giga cheap

cuz not much ppl run ll

[split maple]

one of them sleeper foulborns

[karmic gust]

it would be cheap regardless

its on loris

[stoic horizon]

yeah

served me well on my eb

[past mantle]

That is pretty fatge.

[karmic gust]

you would still only run one tho even if ll pretty sure

and then helical on second

[past mantle]

Yeah only one.

[split maple]

yea you only need one lucky after all 😛

so lucky, attack speed and 30ish lradius

[karmic gust]

without the LL graft next league LL life builds will be a lot more boring again tho

they rly need to make that some buff or guard skill or whatever

[stoic horizon]

no free endu

[karmic gust]

made petrified life so much more interesting

[past mantle]

How much is lucky for it even? Should be like 12.5% more?

[pulsar vault]

Or new nodes "Generate a endurance charge every second while on low life" clause to the marauder/duelist area

[brazen vector]

I mean a 2 passives armor cluster with enduring composure is easy to fit into most builds

[finite quail]

Damn, 20 all ele res, 20-25 chaos res 12-16 aps and lucky damage when on low life

That goes so hard

[pulsar vault]

Yes but you still need to be hit

[finite quail]

lucky is usually a 20-25% dps increase

[karmic gust]

also 33% more recovery rate on top

[brazen vector]

You will be hit

[karmic gust]

it depends on damage range

[finite quail]

for lightning damage or volatility support stuff its usually more

[past mantle]

There's no rule of thumb to lucky damage.

[karmic gust]

eclipse has 2 to 5

and then with volatility on top

[dusty mesa]

this is a deli mirror t16 and I didnt really scale it too much

[finite quail]

I did say usually

[past mantle]

Okay but you're also replying to me asking about a specific case.

[karmic gust]

its differrent for every damage type so not usually either :d

[toxic token]

Fair

[finite quail]

Well if you want a specific answer to a specific case, its usually better to test it yourself

[finite quail]

It has been usually like that for me based on my experience

[tight plinth]

[fossil mural]

isnt lucky damage formula pretty simple

[tight plinth]

yes

[past mantle]

I did actually, that's why I got the 12.5% amount and I was double checking.

[finite quail]

If you wanna go by the numbers you're free to do so, but from what I've experienced its usually 20-25% more dps on most builds I've done

going as low as 15% a couple times

[past mantle]

Ok.

[dusty mesa]

probably only playing lightning builds

[finite quail]

[finite quail]

Er no, that would be the opposite then

It'd be a bigger increase

[karmic gust]

should probs accountvolatility there as well as theres no way you are skippingvolatility ever with lucky damage right

[past mantle]

That is true.

[finite quail]

[brazen vector]

[karmic gust]

so 0.6 to 8

damage range

[finite quail]

Holy moly

Glorpina

[brazen vector]

[finite quail]

[tight plinth]

2 more days mang

[brazen vector]

3

[tight plinth]

im in the future

[finite quail]

holy hammers being added

[tight plinth]

only 2 for me

[finite quail]

means slams getting nerfed

across the board

calling it already

[brazen vector]

Holy Hammers being added means unholy builds get nerfed

[signal hawk]

Holy Hammers is already my league start so I'm not worrying too much

[finite quail]

my leaguestart is still glacial hammer of shattering elementalist

[fossil mural]

holy hammers means added new damage type - light

[finite quail]

hahahahh

[brazen vector]

Light-ning

[finite quail]

phys damage with conversion to lightning

[tight plinth]

this league im not gonna give away my build, i dont have a working build in standard

[signal hawk]

Holy Hammers Scavenger with whatever new support they probably also adding for "holy" skills

[karmic gust]

how do you even sustain wild strike of extremes btw

[finite quail]

leech

or the es cost amulet

[tight plinth]

doesnt the amulet make it all es

[past mantle]

That's 38% more from the look of it.

[finite quail]

ghost reaver for attack es leech, claws for life gain on hit, and mana leech/mgoh

[tight plinth]

thats a lot of more

[past mantle]

Whispers basically.

[finite quail]

Nah it should be doable with leech and gain on hit

Maybe a little clunky perhaps since you need a significant amount of lgoh but it should be doable

[past mantle]

It was actuall 14% more.

I should've considered the personal feeling of what the average % more from lucky is when I did my math the first time.

[karmic gust]

going for ghost reaver sounds super ass ngl

i guess technically you can just ghost reaver eb and then solve life recovery somehow

[fossil mural]

press life flask

[karmic gust]

but whispers solves everything at once so that kinda sounds best anyway

[past mantle]

Yep.

[karmic gust]

actually what if

replica sorrow pathfinedr wild strike of extremes

[finite quail]

Yeah

[past mantle]

You end up with like 100 costs on everything, just annoying to deal with compared to just going whispers.

[finite quail]

But why not be weird and experimental