1┃general

[bold scarab]

Depends on if you want boonie RF (chieftain) or some other more chadly RF

[karmic gust]

its kinda wild how easy it is to just scam rf players by selling them mid gear for 5 times the price

[icy blaze]

10 div for an RF jewel?! SOLD LIKE PANCAKES!

[frigid wedge]

ok but what content is it actually good at, it's too slow for everything and all the content its paced well for is beaten by afk builds

[past mantle]

Is there any content that RF excless at?

[split maple]

multimod spectre and sell for 20div

[pulsar dune]

There was someone making like 19-39d scepters which were realistically within like 2% of a nebulis

[split maple]

harbs, stacked decks

[final owl]

being slower doesn't mean you make no money

[icy blaze]

LEZ GO!

[bold scarab]

It's good at nothing

[frigid wedge]

exactly

[final owl]

it just means you make less money over the same time period

[bold scarab]

Its bad at basically everything that isn't shield charging through maps

[frigid wedge]

its slow in movement AND it's zdps

[final owl]

you can entirely make up for that just by grinding more if that's your thing

[karmic gust]

well its good at already mentioned stacked deck farming

[frigid wedge]

u make like 10% of what u could be

[icy blaze]

Slow in movement, but Idk about Quin dps

[karmic gust]

because bubbles suck

[pulsar dune]

most vaguely easy things, decks, harbs and such.

[karmic gust]

one of better builds at it even

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[pulsar dune]

blight maps are also decent

[split maple]

i look at herald of hive and despair since its what rf would be if it was good

[karmic gust]

exped probs ok too idk

[pulsar dune]

exped should be fine, yea

[icy blaze]

I can't handle Blight maps, more so Ravage, like wtf what kind of PC do you need for that

[past mantle]

RF is not doing juiced expeds.

[icy blaze]

Just tell NASA I want theirs

[pulsar dune]

you have to build more killing towers

[karmic gust]

with explody? surely it can

[pulsar dune]

can't just freeze/stun everything

[icy blaze]

Juiced expeds is STUPIDLY RIPPY THOUGH

[pulsar dune]

that's how you die

[split maple]

rf is ok for big boom if you can read around fire dmg and less block

[pulsar dune]

IDT most builds can really feel good in juiced exped

[final owl]

mine handles blight ok. I just never make strong enough builds for the super juiced version and all the versions before that are kinda boring..

[pulsar dune]

even really powerful ones

[past mantle]

Nah, ele damage for juiced expeditions is ass.

[split maple]

like plop the bomb, wait 5min for game to lag out the explosions, pick loot

[icy blaze]

Even if I do, that fuckin mob deletes me the moment I move an inch and then I lose the map

[split maple]

or randomly die every so often

rf does that

[pulsar dune]

don't die, that's also important

you do need some defenses

[icy blaze]

I'm way too dogshit at Blight and Delve, probably my lesser known ones. Sanctum, Delirium, and Syndicate on the other hand I enjoyed farming

[frigid wedge]

i think rf is aight as a transition build for before fulcrum/cws swaps

but otherwise

gross

[heady cliff]

stacked decks

[past mantle]

Ele immunities are weighted higher than phys and chaos so you'll be getting bricked by an immune mod very often when going with the hardest expeditions.

[split maple]

even then its faster to go slams bers then respec

[icy blaze]

CoS Chieftain I heard is great at Blight

[pulsar dune]

did like 120-ish easy ravaged blights deathless with these numbers and meh recovery

[icy blaze]

but so far builds I played are either too weak on spells or too weak on physical

[past mantle]

Also ignore armour mod bricks RF builds and is common.

[frigid wedge]

true

[pulsar dune]

it's pretty comfy leveling

[frigid wedge]

eventually ill try fulcrum

[pulsar dune]

but obviously if you can just do alva evo

[past mantle]

RF is gonna be fine for non juiced exped but it's gonna be pretty assge for juiced ones.

[final owl]

no way alva evo 2 electric boogaloo makes it into 3.28 right? or is it going to slip through the cracks

[frigid wedge]

its a bug

[split maple]

you cannot make that bug any more public at this point

[frigid wedge]

that is getting heavy abuse

[split maple]

like its getting fixed

[past mantle]

No way it's not getting fixed.

[split maple]

just fingers crossed not before 3.28

i still got t0 section to finish

[final owl]

yeah seems obvious its getting fully doinked and this is it's last hoorah

[frigid wedge]

maybe it will make ggg realise that we want to drop loot

bc we immediately flock to the thing that drops

loot

[past mantle]

Unless it's setting servers on fire it'll stay til next league. And if it was setting servers on fire, it would've been fixed by now.

[frigid wedge]

and we might get some quant or skth

[final owl]

also things that give you content actually challenging for late build power

[dense idol]

ce qualche italiano ?

[split maple]

now thats what i kinda dislike about evo alva - it requires no build except hh, clear and gull ||and full tree of herald tattoos||

[icy blaze]

Did GGG even comment about fixing ground loot? Or is it just being raised by our community?

[frigid wedge]

they dont give a shit what we want rn

it seems

[icy blaze]

I mean tbh, tile loot seems way valuable, if they start putting foulborn dropping in ground loot, then maybe?

[past mantle]

They're not doing that lol.

[icy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/yall-making-me-tear-up-gif-10540452730693802585

[frigid wedge]

tile loot is my least favourite content in the damn game

[final owl]

if they were more deliberate about how this sort of thing works this wouldn't have to be the case though would it? I don't mean "just give us unicorn vomit HH fodder thx"

[frigid wedge]

it feels like shit

[pulsar dune]

they should just keep buffing more uniques ngl

[past mantle]

The fuck is tile loot?

[icy blaze]

Fuck of course, they want them breach asses juicy!

[past mantle]

Real.

[frigid wedge]

"this thing gives this specific loot and nothing else"

[past mantle]

Buff like 95% of unique weapons.

[icy blaze]

Anything from expansions or other mechanics other than ground loot from maps

[frigid wedge]

instead of generic loot piles

[split maple]

deli reward tile, legion reward tile, blight chests (not pump), heist side room chests, ... tiles

[icy blaze]

Like Syndicate drops allflames, medallions, and veiled orbs, but ground loot doesn't have that

[past mantle]

Do heist side room chests give any reward unique to them other than heist items?

[frigid wedge]

treasures scarab is easiest visual for loot tiles tbh

and deli

[split maple]

tartarean gems

tho also obtainable in logbooks

[past mantle]

Oh fuck I forgot those exist.

[icy blaze]

Buff everything! 90% of the unique are too dogshit to be used, either that or allow us to combine some low ass uniques to make a build out of it

[past mantle]

I don't trust like that.

[fickle glen]

Anyone know what’s this mastery means exactly?

[dense rock]

allowing us to burn currency to increase the level of shit tier uniques could make them usable

[karmic gust]

well foulborns are kinda nice solution to uniques

[past mantle]

GGG saying that unique items somehow outpace rares or whatever and giving rares runecrafts was so pepega.

[icy blaze]

Tbh there isn't a single league that allowed us to combine multiple uniques into one item yet, but I guess that'd be too powerful

[karmic gust]

hopefully we get more foulborns as well

[icy blaze]

That pose a good solution too

[frigid wedge]

impales last x amount of hits, u get chance to add 1 to that amount on hit

[icy blaze]

LMAO WTF

😭

[frigid wedge]

to all current impales on the mob

[dense rock]

Could make strong lvling items in to late game powerhouses with enough currency or something

[fickle glen]

I am asking about the highlighted one

[stoic horizon]

i dont think thats the one they are referencing

[stoic horizon]

remove all impales dealing dmg from all stacks

[karmic gust]

this was actually true at some point but not in a while especially after they buffed rare weapons :d and that def happened before kingsmarch

[past mantle]

I'd rather they just look over the unique pool more, agian, for like the 90th time, because Foulborns are very good and have pretty strong use cases.

[frigid wedge]

oh i blind

[past mantle]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Meanwhile unique bows:

[final owl]

if they just made foulborn orbs part of normal currency and made them ground loot and you could use those on normal uniques to make foulborns and just.. didn't bother keeping the tree at all, it feels like it would have been so much neater :I

[frigid wedge]

all the impales do their dmg at once based on number of hits left

[fickle glen]

What does mean by multiplying its damage for this hit?

[icy blaze]

That's true, I'd want that

[karmic gust]

bloodthirst being 2% and then they make grey wind with 12%

and expect people to care about shit like bloodthirst doomfletch

xd

[fickle glen]

That makes sense but why does they have it worded that way?

[past mantle]

Nah, because that just means low value foulborns don't get to exist.

[stoic horizon]

impales last a number of hits, its there to tell you that the number of hits is not wasted and contributes to the impale damage when removed

[karmic gust]

why is doomfletch so shit when voidforge exists

[icy blaze]

If there's any missed mechanics that I want back, it's the weapon skill tree from Crucible, like wtf that was such a good idea to throw away. Albeit being such a powerful power creep

[karmic gust]

pls ggg

[frigid wedge]

because poe has to be incredibly exact with working without making it clear how its diff to other things

xD

[fickle glen]

I swear they love to confuse players that are unfamiliar with a
Impales

[final owl]

tiers of orbs, different one for T1/0

[split maple]

make it work like tainted mythic

[past mantle]

So just clutter.

[split maple]

chance to delete item, better odds on item classes with more common crapo

[pulsar dune]

going over the unique weapon list in ninja, it's like half caster statsticks, half stacker payoff, first attack weapon on the list is paradoxica (or maybe oblit if you cope a bit)

[past mantle]

Most of those got turned into trans gems.

[final owl]

how can you sell that as more clutter than moving entire mechanics to core :I

[icy blaze]

Asking GGG to fix something feels like being in a toxic relationship with someone lmao

[split maple]

where is grace of goddess 😛

[final owl]

sure obviously tweak em so it doesn't have the result just suggested

[pulsar dune]

oh I forgot grace

yea grace is there ofc

[icy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-ned-frustrated-gif-16169674

[fickle glen]

So the point of that mastery is to stack impales faster?

[past mantle]

I don't really care for them being used for attacks or stats. I just want them to have anything going for them.

[pulsar dune]

which seems good, insanely rare uber drop do be insanely rare uber drop

[stoic horizon]

no, its there to give you a chance for a burst of damage from impales rather than a gradual damage boost

[fickle glen]

So it’s for slow attacks?

[frigid wedge]

its one of those masteries that im p sure no one actually clicks, all it does is reduce ramp for the payoff of having to start ur ramp again

[split maple]

it got buffed to 10% drop rate

[frigid wedge]

its kinda ok for mid hp stuff

[icy blaze]

I feel like GGG should learn more about magic quality in D2r, like some of them are best in slots for some fkn reason and the jewels in D2r literally outshines some of em when put on

[fickle glen]

I see

[past mantle]

GGG has been so good about new uniques in the past 3 leagues. I just want them to take that and apply it to older uniques.
Do one pool of uniques at a time if you gotta but give them some kind of love.

[icy blaze]

I agree

[stoic horizon]

didnt they somewhat do that in keepers already?

wouldnt be surprised if it continued this time

[icy blaze]

"Shoot your shot my guy" we should tell em that

[split maple]

nebulis got buffed yea

[frigid wedge]

i would like to see a more refined version of crucible return i think

with less creep

specifically the bonuses for specific skills

[past mantle]

The answer to that is just an outright. "no"

[stoic horizon]

now with jewellery trees

[icy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[icy blaze]

PLEEEASSSEEEEEEE

FUCKIN DISGUSTING

[frigid wedge]

somewhere between helm enchants and the skill specific nodes for crucible items

[past mantle]

They said they don't want permanent power outside of tree and gear to be added and say that quality on jewellery was a mistake.

[icy blaze]

I WANT MOAR

[past mantle]

We're never getting something like that.

[icy blaze]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

[past mantle]

I agree with them entirely.

[icy blaze]

Idk why they made a mistake with PoE 2's +on skills while PoE 1 handled it so well wtf

[past mantle]

Too much bloat.

[frigid wedge]

i want stuff like glacial cascade uses cold snap on final burst and sst scales based on es on shield and infernal blow and eq scale on armour etc back

those were neat

[pulsar dune]

those are supposed to be trans gems now afaik

[past mantle]

Yep.

Crucible is just trans gems now.

[icy blaze]

why they obssesed on putting everything to gems? If that so why don't we have a gem skill tree?!

[frigid wedge]

yeah but its not as fun, plus half the trans gems are the boring bits from threshhold jewels

[icy blaze]

See what I mean

Like some of them are barely used by the players

[past mantle]

Because making a new item instead of a new tree system makes a lot more sense lol.

[pulsar dune]

but I am kinda down for just more complicated crafts, but it's probably not a good idea for the health of the game.

[split maple]

imagine poor pohx having to update his rf guides so newbs would understand rf skill tree

like dont overcomplicate the fundamental parts

[icy blaze]

LMAO

[past mantle]

It doesn't sound like a tree.

It just sounds like a choice between regular gem and trans gem.

[stoic horizon]

arent support gems basically skill gem "trees" already

[past mantle]

Or maybe even trans gem 2.

It's entirely superfluous without any of the additions.

[icy blaze]

Btw weren't there plans for Cluster jewels to come in PoE 2? But they said it's gonna be a long time before it comes

[past mantle]

Crucible without the power creep is literally just useless.

[stoic horizon]

the weapon trees were the only good part of crucible

[past mantle]

You can put everything they did on trans gems.

[heady cliff]

i dont even remember what crucible had except skill trees

[icy blaze]

I mean yeah that was really the point of it, but I guess making it a one time thing for the league makes sense with GGG, they said we were about to witness one of the more powerful weapon crafts in that league

[stoic horizon]

channel thingy, mobs spawn, kill mobs

[past mantle]

That's it.

[stoic horizon]

verisium ore as a whole league mechanic

[icy blaze]

Feels like Verisium tf or at least that's what Verisium nodes are inspired of

[frigid wedge]

i want higher high end crafting that isnt just spend 200d rolling strands

and spend the entire craft trying desperately to keep them

bc theres been no good recent crafting stuff

[past mantle]

That is literally just a recoloured version of crucible, yes.

[stoic horizon]

they also had a special map drop where you could apply trees and do some other crafts iirc

[frigid wedge]

no! its got rocks

[heady cliff]

ore is rocks

literally

[split maple]

idk when was the last time i used anything newer than beastlock for awakener orb

[heady cliff]

tl;dr - we need crucible forge in kingsmarch

[split maple]

crafts pretty stale

[frigid wedge]

yeah i would like cool crafting method stuff

[split maple]

oh okay i did one or two recombis 😛

[frigid wedge]

that isnt just

3 hours of pain

[heady cliff]

F reforge suffix/prefix

[frigid wedge]

.-.

[past mantle]

There were like 5 buffs in the patch for uniques.

[frigid wedge]

recombs gave me trauma and strands are never worth the effort

[past mantle]

All good buffs but it's not a whole lot.

Want them to just look at an entire group of uniques and do something for them.

[heady cliff]

ggg buffed a lot of uniques and made them rarer previously

but then they stopped doing that for some reason

[split maple]

that light radius wand kinda fits the pattern recently

but yeah its one-off case

[past mantle]

This league I can forgive them because foulborns.

[split maple]

even better when they nerf smh and make it rarer like eedge

[heady cliff]

edge is likely deserved

[past mantle]

Edge is deserved yeah.

[split maple]

idk i feel both nerf and rarity change is kinda sad

since due to dmg nerf its only used on ignite builds

so it has way less op niche than before

[icy blaze]

When did GGG gave us a fun crafting method? Most of it probably takes too much time, well the keepers tree seems powerful but not fun at all? The last crafting method I found fun was probably Harvest 3.13. Where everyone is basically allowed to reroll their item's affixes and rack up exalteds and shit to keep upgrading their gear, but GGG said "FUCK THAT SHIT, WE WANT YOU TO PICK UP AND FIND BETTER STUFF ON THE GROUND SO WE ARE REMOVING THAT"

[frigid wedge]

i think that's more bc tricky sucks atm

[split maple]

i dont even consider tree crafting lol

[icy blaze]

Item shitter more like it

[split maple]

look at mercs tricky and remove doryani from equation

would be ass

[frigid wedge]

tree is half baked attempt to make us do necropolis crafting

[past mantle]

I dunno about that one.

[icy blaze]

That's what I actually notice, Idk who is in GGG but someone out there actually enjoyed Necropolis craftin and they want it back to Keeper's tree

[final owl]

it's necropolis with user / UI QoL yeah

[frigid wedge]

except no haunted mods

[final owl]

outside of the being able to / needing to trade to set up the crafts

[past mantle]

Did you guys interact with Necropolis at all?

[frigid wedge]

which is dumb

[final owl]

well that too I guess

[frigid wedge]

a bit

[icy blaze]

I love just spamming it for frac bases in the endgame, hey I'll take anything I can get it I guess

[wheat sinew]

Best league

[split maple]

i think tree can serve as rly newb friendly intro to map progression gearing if its nerfed sufficiently

[wheat sinew]

1 week for 1 craft

Goes brrr

[split maple]

in current state its just sad for game

[icy blaze]

FRACTURED 18% atk sped gloves? 15 divs or so

[past mantle]

These are just not comparable whatsoever outside of the superficial part of wording.

[stoic horizon]

i only sold corpses

[icy blaze]

It's gonna get shanked, and less availability, heard it's gonna appear in Act 6

[icy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-conceited-mhm-oop-gif-25076302

[wheat sinew]

Bros just rumoring

XD

[past mantle]

It's a crafting mechanic going core, it's going to get the stick.

[split maple]

the two parts i care about are can i get 700pdps axe during atlas prog and can i use it for unique jewels - if both are no, i wont tree any 😄

[final owl]

I mean I have the 4 quad tabs i have because of necropolis

[lucid gale]

Let the bodies hit the [trading] floor

[icy blaze]

Fuck I even got a 616 pdps before I finish campaign and carried through yellow maps

It was such a great drop

[icy zinc]

daily log to keepers after a long while into t17 and like 5 div drops of loot

ground loot found

let hope it get better in 328

[icy blaze]

It's bad that they locked it away to t17s though, here's hoping they address this one too

[split maple]

my tree bonker from hc run

tho that was around lvl90 already

[icy zinc]

spittin

[icy zinc]

karui c**per

[split maple]

whats that 3 risk scarbs?

[icy zinc]

alk doesnt like this karui

[past mantle]

Wait til you hear about 16.5s.

[icy zinc]

ye 3 risk scarab

dropped like that

tink

[split maple]

they did them t16.5 dirty with mod nerfs

[icy zinc]

pricy thingies

[split maple]

practically unusuable except for 3 or so strats

[celest bone]

hey guys, anybody willing to give me a couple of c on standard so i can farm shaper for hideout?

[split maple]

hey Jay

no Jay

[native abyss]

nice

[celest bone]

i dunno why ive got no currency on there feels like lots of stuff have been deleted

thats fair, worth asking

[split maple]

settings -> show remove only tabs

[celest bone]

oh ty

[past mantle]

Kalandra jewellery is one of the best systems they introduced for crafting.
Reintroducing recombos was good.
Strands are like 90% good.
Foulborn currency very good.

[icy zinc]

reminds me, some expedition drop currency would get people 3 mirrors at once

[split maple]

fbl augs are a god gift yea

[icy zinc]

that's like league worth in one sec

[split maple]

make flasks not pain to roll

[past mantle]

Did they introduce anything else that I forgort?

[icy zinc]

yeah its crazy kalandra jewelry is still in the game

the strongest endgame option

[icy blaze]

I ended up with this axe in the endgame, I bought it, but I rolled the 8% inc phys mods with the expedition orb, forgot the name, was it tailoring? I got divs to spend so I was like "Fuck it, lez go"

[split maple]

tempering and heist not expedition 😄

[icy blaze]

1189 pdps not the best one but I found it cheap

[icy zinc]

positive upside and mitigated downside + kalandra touch

[icy blaze]

Oh yeah oh yeah

[icy zinc]

thats like 4 rings

[past mantle]

Because it's expensive and it creates items you can't mirror.

And burns a lot of good item bases.

[split maple]

and makes stackers OP

[prime hill]

holy shit

[icy blaze]

That's true, reflecting mist absolutely skyrockets the power creep with jewellry and here we are with GGG complaining jewellries are too powerful or some shit said earlier

[past mantle]

They can be OP when they start getting good kalandra jewellery.

[prime hill]

what doesnt make stackers op

[icy zinc]

thats good

[split maple]

are stackers even OP before misted rings tho

[icy zinc]

one of the kind

[prime hill]

im reading and pretty much everything makes stackers op

[past mantle]

They can have whatever power theny want when it costs like 1 mirror on average to make those.

[split maple]

except int accu which is blatantly op

[past mantle]

Yes lol.

[icy zinc]

more stacking comes from large clusters

[prime hill]

well can get them online before misted rings

[final owl]

what does OP mean in this context. is it not ok to beat the game? or do we mean that level of power is too easy to obtain

[prime hill]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[split maple]

it rly dont tho?

like to hit 2+1- is 1 in 3 or smh

and mists arent that expensive

while bases have 4/5 refund

and 2+1- is good enough for a lot of stuff

[prime hill]

normal build items like focused etc are relatively easy to craft

int stacker amulets etc?

yeah

you're wrong there

[split maple]

intstack doesnt go for mirrored ammu

influenced incr too important

[prime hill]

theres not only 1 setup for builds

besides doesn't change my point

[split maple]

show me a intstacker using misted ammy that wouldnt be better with influenced simplex

like i am just saying misted rings dont cost a mirror on avg to make

[past mantle]

Good enough but also good enough doesn't even require going for Kalandra on a bunch of them.

[prime hill]

I mean that point is right but what are you saying about general craft costs just doesn't add up

[prime hill]

and it's just average of luck

[split maple]

okay what mist craft with 2+1- costs a mirror

since thats the ones i am saying dont

[prime hill]

theres ways to make certain crafts easier, like essences etc for more cost, or you can lose sanity over other stuff

[split maple]

sure 5+ costs a lot

[prime hill]

2+1, lets say you hit it on what you need on average of 3-4 amulets

[split maple]

like heck even 3+2- i dont believe hit a mirr with sane economy, thats still 1 in 8

[prime hill]

you have to either craft 3-4 amulets

or buy them

[celest bone]

man you ever look at a stashtab and think wtf was i doing this league

why do i have so many

[prime hill]

if you're lucky

it's just like 200~ divs cost

if you're not

you're looking at a mirror tbh

[split maple]

dont forget base refund

[prime hill]

yes

not too related, but I have tried for exsang focused last league and was yoloing them

I had 2 hits in 17 amulets

xdd

[split maple]

sure its possible to go unlucky

[prime hill]

because crafting was just

essence

[split maple]

but when talking crafting cost you need to talk averages

[prime hill]

then winning 50/50 yolo

average of misting stuff depending on prices will usually land at 350 divs

[split maple]

like i once went 17 missed fracs in a row, that doesnt mean fracutring costs 17 frac orbs

[prime hill]

for normal misting items that isnt double influenced simplex

[split maple]

wdym

[prime hill]

and early league is like 100-120 divs with

[split maple]

you cannot mist influenced

[prime hill]

thats what I mean

lol

[past mantle]

I think we're going to deep on the actual specifics here.

I meant that thing is expensive so it's fine for it to be strong.

[prime hill]

nah

in this chat

we wanna nuke everything thats strong and expensive

so our gamer dads can play the game in same footing as people that spends shitton of time learning the game

[past mantle]

If it's 1 mirror or 0.77 of a mirror doesn't matter exactly.

[prime hill]

jesus christ

[split maple]

i still dont know where we getting 3/4 of that 0.77 of a mirror cost

[shadow socket]

i have 47 children and 22 wives and have 0.2 picoseconds to play per week, pls nerf mageblood

[prime hill]

same man

[stoic horizon]

how many jobs

[shadow socket]

12

[split maple]

like its 3xcost of rolling + 3/5 of base cost + 3x cost of mist on avg to make 2+1- ring

[frigid wedge]

is there any reason i can't just

[split maple]

sure there are economic situations where helical, mists are expensiveish and mirrors cheap

but on avg its rly not close

[frigid wedge]

use the alva strat as substitute for adversaries and divinity

and juice the shit outta scarab things

[prime hill]

a mirror outside of absurd leagues usually averages around 700~ divs no

[split maple]

ping me with results

[prime hill]

average is still like half a mirror

and tbh

[split maple]

yea and mist is like 10-20 div

[frigid wedge]

when i do later sure

[prime hill]

it's even worse when the heist jewels are fought after in leagues

[split maple]

helical what 50div

so idk where we get to like 1/3 of mirr of crafting cost

[past mantle]

Mist is only that cheap this league since the div card got added, no?

[prime hill]

kind of

[split maple]

mist is samey since settlers at least, no?

[past mantle]

Nah.

[prime hill]

and most of the league strats had shitton of packs aka

more reflecting mists

[past mantle]

Last league it was sitting on 50d pretty consistently, I was investing into them a lot.

[prime hill]

and peak of keepers was still like

15d per mist

[split maple]

last league also had shitload of div

like evo alva and hoards devalued them hard

[frigid wedge]

mmh

i think

hmm

[past mantle]

Mirror was about 1.5x what it is now previous league.

[split maple]

but yea poeninja says 40-50d for most of league droping to 20d for mercs, so fari point ig

[past mantle]

But mists were 2.5x.

[frigid wedge]

do i replace fractured rares or invasion scarab

one of them has to go

probably fracture right

[split maple]

replace one champ with nemesis sans

[frigid wedge]

so i can roll for scarab

[split maple]

and stil lroll for fractured 😛

[frigid wedge]

but i want twooooo

[past mantle]

So not making up for the full 3x cost but it was more expensive by a good margin last league.

[frigid wedge]

my game hates frac+ double beyond

[past mantle]

Mist card nice.

[split pagoda]

i think stackers are generally not very problematic, there’s just always that one stacker that ends up being insane lol

[frigid wedge]

if im testing this im making my life worthwhile

xD

[split maple]

just dont take the bloody volatile cores, you get 1k of them on screen

[split pagoda]

Like int accu stack this league or doryani merc intstack last league

[frigid wedge]

with 92hh buffs and 9 bajillion things dying per second i dont notice anything im p sure

i end up on 15k es and like 8k life

[split maple]

they tank my perf for some reason even more than just frac map

[past mantle]

Or life stacker this league or life stacker last league or es stacker last league.

[frigid wedge]

yeah but i have life and es on kill

[split pagoda]

With intstacker I meant es stacker, and I dont think life stacker last league was that insane

[frigid wedge]

so unless i get 1 tapped im full on both

[split maple]

which life stacker was insane?

[prime hill]

speaking of it

playing exsang miner and trying to mist amulets were profitable because

[past mantle]

Life stacker is always consistently very powerful and this league it was half of builds because you could use it for dots too.

[prime hill]

pretty much same 2 lines as pbod/phys ele dot

[frigid wedge]

i mean

+8 is +8

[prime hill]

yep

just trying to tell that I've tried a lot this league

[frigid wedge]

that suffix sucks ass for emines tho

[prime hill]

yep I sold it for 2 mirrors

because build overlap on that amulet

[frigid wedge]

dayum

[split pagoda]

Yeah lifestack is powerful for sure but like this league’s int accu stack or doryani merc stackers last league are just on a different level, thats the point where it gets problematic imo

[prime hill]

and one picture to jumpscare harvest haters in here

[frigid wedge]

its been 3 leagues and i havent clicked a mist

[split pagoda]

id be ok with them not nerfing stackers beyond nerfing claw for 3.28

[prime hill]

this was like 2.5 weeks into league 😔

[frigid wedge]

someone here had like 380 HoM this league

was insane

[prime hill]

yep

I don't farm mirrors to get demi god gear, neither I have that much time

[heady cliff]

divination card

[prime hill]

I just farm enough to make league enjoyable and do what aspirational build there is

[prime hill]

and yes, that aswell

[heady cliff]

that is the main reason

[prime hill]

maybe I was lucky to drop 3 mists this league

but then in general I was lucky with general drops aswell

3 apothecaries, lock, mirror

[frigid wedge]

i wanna actually make a decent lump of currency in a league

[prime hill]

lmao

considering I only did juiced blights for 1 and half week

[heady cliff]

1. buy house of mirrors card 2) buy some yellow juice 3) click harvest gamba until you get either 0 or a "decent lump" of currency 4) if previous step failed, try again next league

[frigid wedge]

yeah no

[prime hill]

how to make someone quit game entirely

[heady cliff]

when i get bored of league, i gamba cards

either i quit league or i get a few more weeks with some uber build

[shadow socket]

i poofed 10 HoM week 1 of keepers

[split maple]

i think if i migrated to trade rn i could liquidate to 5ish mirrors

was a lucky league

[frigid wedge]

i gamba cards when i have 150d

and get bored

[prime hill]

usually same

[frigid wedge]

ill click 1 or 2 apo

otherwise

[shadow socket]

i gamba as soon as I have any currency at all

[frigid wedge]

nty

[shadow socket]

not cards though

[prime hill]

bought and made pbod gear

gambled rest

gave some in g1 and to friends

made myself an decent aurabot build aswell to play with ppl

then bricked like 15 mbs in a row

[frigid wedge]

only thing gambling got me this league was my herald tats

and only like half

:P

and my helmet ig but that's bc i was templing a bunch of them

and it was 1d each so it doesn't count

[past mantle]

I think it's problematic that so many scaling vectors are just stacking one positive stat that you want as much of and end up getting damage.
They exist in every price bracket and are too competitive.

Stack life, which you want as much of, and get spell crit and inc % solved.
Stack blue life and get flat damage solved.
Stack blue life using red life and get flat damage and crit solved.

Stack int and solve pool, accuracy and flat damage. (This is fine because it has actual cost behind it.)
Stack armour and solve ele defence and % inc. (Also fine because price of entry was so high.)

Something like perseverance has a soft cap of usefulness and even as a scale defence get offence item that's fine because it also takes up the most powerful item slot.

Just a lot of these things and even more getting added.

[prime hill]

armour stacker scion, my favorite 1 div build

[umbral crag]

Idk, i got int acc jugg to 100m dps on a budget

[split maple]

intaccu should be ignored in stacker discussions imo

like build is ridiculus too much compared to others

and will anyways get hit separately if ggg doesnt go insane

[umbral crag]

I think thats just the nature of being efficient in games like this when pushing hard numbers

[past mantle]

Another fine one is Emnity's.
Stacking res means a whole load of nothing really.

[frigid wedge]

int acc stack is what happens when ggg forgets to think before they add smth

[umbral crag]

^

[split maple]

like nerfing statstacking bc of intaccu is like nerfing pbod due to heraldstacker and both are going to happen

[frigid wedge]

accuracy stacker has always been pretty balanced by the fact it has very little access to any defences

[native abyss]

lucky for ggg i dont think at all 🔥

[frigid wedge]

letting ppl do the thing that is #1 for getting defences in the game on accuracy stacker was a mistake

esp with how hard they let it scale dmg anyway

[past mantle]

I didn't even mention that here.

[umbral crag]

Also how we still on this topic of stacking for the last couple of hours

[split maple]

you didnt

Lacro did though

[split maple]

patch notes waiting room

[prime hill]

im bored while working

[umbral crag]

Yeah, im just pointing out coz his msg said its fine coz it has actual cost behind it. Im trying to say its not, thats how broken it was

[prime hill]

saw the discussion still going on

chimed in

[past mantle]

That's my point?

[split pagoda]

Yeah scaling ur overall dps + defense from one stat is where it can get out of hand if the scaling is too insane like int accu stack this league

[umbral crag]

U said its fine ._.

It really isnt because the barrier of entry is not as high as youd think

[split pagoda]

Dex stack is a thing too and can get super high dps it just doesnt get the defense at the same time

[past mantle]

Where?

[umbral crag]

Unless im misunderstanding that sentence haha

[past mantle]

I said int stack was fine because of the cost, int stack and accstacker aren't interchangeable.

[umbral crag]

I could be

[cobalt tulip]

what search parameter to use to search for this reservation efficieny implicit , no matter what variation I type nothing shows up in filter

[umbral crag]

Yeah then its just misunderstanding then coz its basically just int stacking too

[frigid wedge]

the problem was more that accuracy stacking is a v high dps thing anyways, but sourcing % and flat for it usually sucks and the best route was abyss stacking with precursor for % acc per frenzy bc it didn't source, and then u get to get all ur % from the same metric u get flat from by scaling intel, which also happens to be the best defensive scaler in the game rn

[past mantle]

That is fair.

[cobalt tulip]

damn its comes under enchant, its confirmed i have one brain cell

thank you

[pulsar dune]

y'know what we need, foulborn iron commander that does intstack ballistas

[opal ingot]

now u have two

one is for hating urself and the other is knowing enchants in the trade search

[frigid wedge]

hahahaha no

[karmic gust]

that would surely be balanced :d

[pulsar dune]

I mean, you don't really get flat, no?

[karmic gust]

you have hyrris

or whatever is the name of quiver now

[pulsar dune]

yea that's garbo

but IG it's more than nothing, which could be enough to bring it up too high

[opal ingot]

rip brotha

[past mantle]

She poising my prism til I.

[opal ingot]

oh yeah there's that

[wheat sinew]

That reminds me we need more unique quivers

[opal ingot]

they cut the quiver in two

[karmic gust]

and you also get boots

it would def be more than enough

[past mantle]

Another thing that was a stacker that sucked was Cry Omniscience.
Really just sucked out the air out of the meta when that dropped because it was so generically good. 😴

[frigid wedge]

honestly can we be real for a sec

int stacking is the biggest issue with stacking

because without any uniques or item mods

its worth doing

[wheat sinew]

Str stacking for asp on jugg

Kek

[frigid wedge]

requires specific ascendancy point

and doesn't have benefit for caster

[tranquil sedge]

int stacking only stands out over strength and dex stacking to everyone because it gives % es lol

[crisp obsidian]

we need bleed for spells finally

please ggg

[tranquil sedge]

like if strength gave %life, everyone's complaints would include strength too

[frigid wedge]

yes that's why im saying it

[tranquil sedge]

ah im just clarifying that stacking int isn't a bad thing, its just that its a lot stronger than stacking strength or dexterity (lol poor dex)

[wheat sinew]

Reaper /s

[stoic horizon]

is there even any spell that would be good at bleed?

[dense rock]

summon skeleton 😄

[crisp obsidian]

bunch of good phys spells no?

[wheat sinew]

Volatiles

[crisp obsidian]

can also create new ones

[frigid wedge]

dex stacking so ass bc it only gets useful defensive tools with boots or gloves

[stoic horizon]

most phys spells do fast hits

[tranquil sedge]

dex do be left in the dust

strength at least gives some life

[stoic horizon]

not one big one

[tranquil sedge]

int gives lots of es

dex gives...evasion

they could use a bit of love yup

[stoic horizon]

guess what also can get tons of evasion

int stack

[past mantle]

Int could use a bit more HATE.

[stoic horizon]

[wheat sinew]

Thankfully you can convert it into suppress as well

Magebane supremacy

[frigid wedge]

if me just uh

[tranquil sedge]

magebane's fun yup

[dense rock]

cant you transfer eva to armor or someshit? 😄

[frigid wedge]

reverse the direction on shapers touch

[tranquil sedge]

while i would ordinarily support int nerfs, taking into account how ggg behaves, im just gonna cry into the wind and ask for no nerfs

[frigid wedge]

that would b neat

[tranquil sedge]

sure but armor is a lot less impactful than getting more raw hitpool

[frigid wedge]

instead of dex to str str to int int to Dex we flip it

[crisp obsidian]

that's kinda huge no?

[frigid wedge]

that would be interesting

[tranquil sedge]

wat about pbod

[wheat sinew]

Oh speaking of, I wanted so much stacking to be more accessible via experimental jewelry, coped so hard about the card being semi-rare, didn't expect it to be nimis rare xD

[frigid wedge]

unearth is phys

[split maple]

pbod rly doesnt need bleed

[prime hill]

I like how physical spells work best as mines

[tranquil sedge]

oh nvm it has 50% implicit phys to lightning

rip

[past mantle]

Base conversion kills that.

[crisp obsidian]

yeah same problem as divine ire

[frigid wedge]

bleed reap it is

[tranquil sedge]

what about seismic trap

[crisp obsidian]

they could give transfigured versions tho

[tranquil sedge]

thats a spell

[frigid wedge]

more dots for ruetoo

[stoic horizon]

i suppose yeah thats cool

[tranquil sedge]

or trans seis trap

[crisp obsidian]

yeah trans seis it would be

[frigid wedge]

honestly we don't need spell bleed bc half the non convert phys spells r dots anyway

[crisp obsidian]

or they can just create new spells?

dafuq

[split maple]

thats sweel

[wheat sinew]

I summon the bloodflies

[crisp obsidian]

delete the troll spells and skills

[onyx adder]

Explosive trap

Of MAGNITUDEEEE

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/swole-muscles

[stoic horizon]

and we still mostly convert them ourselves

[frigid wedge]

maybe we could balance current ones a bit better

[stoic horizon]

uhhh doesnt it convert?

[crisp obsidian]

ye that would work too

[crisp obsidian]

not magnitude version

[frigid wedge]

yeah bc phys as extra is stupid

[stoic horizon]

yeah looks cool

[heady cliff]

sounds about as good as TAWHOA, FOREST'S STRENGTH

[onyx adder]

Correct

[onyx adder]

It has MAGNITUDE

[pulsar dune]

50% stun duration is such a flavor win

[wheat sinew]

Storm call of trathus

[pulsar dune]

But man, is it worthless

[frigid wedge]

icl storm call of trarthus pisses me off

it has an entirely different visual

[sterile depot]

I hope foulborns don't become super omega rare bro, I wanna leaguestart impending doom again 😄

[stoic horizon]

that all depends how garbage breach becomes

[wheat sinew]

It does seem like it could work

[frigid wedge]

no other trans gem has literally no visual similarity to its norm vers

its ugly as hell

[wheat sinew]

Just mtx it

Lmfao

[frigid wedge]

looks like the shit that comes out your nose when you break it

[frigid wedge]

but normal storm call is pretty

[wheat sinew]

Is ittt

XD

[frigid wedge]

prettier than the blood filled clump of snot yes

[onyx adder]

Maybe i will play explosive trap OF MAGNITUDEEEEEE next league

Im sure i can figure something out

Probably wont be bleed tho

[frigid wedge]

lul

[pulsar dune]

I mean,.it's a trap, equip sunblast and it's GG damage

[frigid wedge]

ewwww

sunblast depends on the trap ur using btw

[pulsar dune]

every trap lasts for 4s except ice trap of hollowness at 2s

(and this makes less of a difference than you'd think)

[fossil mural]

if you put less duration in it

[onyx adder]

Please instead consider the following

[frigid wedge]

sunblast is icky

[onyx adder]

Explosive trap of MAGNITUDEEEEEE has 30% less trap throw speed

[pulsar dune]

trap duration isn't skill effect duration

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ew-yuck-gif-9386865

[onyx adder]

It does not have 30% less mine throw speed

[pulsar dune]

oh god

[onyx adder]

Please further consider that swift assembly double dips

[frigid wedge]

sunblast is the ONLY source of reduced trap dura in the game

[pulsar dune]

which means you can stack more throwing speed before running into overthrow issues LOGIN

but yea, proxying it via mines seems feasible

even without minefield

well, without minefield

you'll overthrow with minefield

[onyx adder]

Swift assembly 156% more damage support very neat so cool

[pulsar dune]

hey, 30% better than minefield by default

[onyx adder]

Imma go pob this it sounds legendary

Unfortunately mined traps do not scale with mine damage

Which sucks, they come out of a mine they ought to count as a mine

[frigid wedge]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vvklN2UM2pY

[fossil mural]

3.24

thats basically ancient history now

[frigid wedge]

i played the same thing last league

i was grabbing one w endgame footage

bc his start guide doesn't include post sunblast

[tranquil sedge]

what was the reason people stopped playing seismic traps as much?
was it just the flat damage nerf in 3.19?

[frigid wedge]

fell out of favour

also iirc something killed it

either that or explosive trap just passed it

[tight plinth]

at one point seismic trap was the talk of the towwn

[frigid wedge]

yeah i can't remember whst happened

[tight plinth]

was it jung who popularized it?

[frigid wedge]

idk

[onyx adder]

So many reasons

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[onyx adder]

Seismic got walloped

Sabo got walloped

Other things got buffed

[fossil mural]

this should be additive with wither right

[tranquil sedge]

dunno what that mod is
but based on the wording i feel like it should be additive ye

[fossil mural]

expedition

I am trying to find a way

to ignore that

cause

90% red damage taken

makes it so ass

and you cant shock them either

most of the time

[karmic gust]

it should be additive with wither, shock and other stuff

like the gloves

[fossil mural]

I am thinking glad or chief with something chaos thats not hit based

like those chaos puddles

[tranquil sedge]

that mod doesn't specify hits, sir

[fossil mural]

there is 30% avoid hits

mod

[tranquil sedge]

oh thats a different one ye

[fossil mural]

I tried a few maps now

with double remnant scarab

[tranquil sedge]

yeah RF, toxic rain, caustic arrow, anything with explode, etc. are good map expedition/logbook farmers

[fossil mural]

and they basically always have

capped avoid capped red

rf just does so little damage

from what ive seen

on early pobs

and its hard to block regen cause the only source thats not hit based is only 50%

[tranquil sedge]

it does not have impressive damage output yes but it makes up for that by ignoring lots of remnant modifiers

if you need to combat regen u just throw out a frost bomb when necessary

[split maple]

Doesn't rly matter in that context

You have enough density

[tranquil sedge]

you also get built in explode ^

[split maple]

Just need to kill a few normal mobs

[karmic gust]

also exped mobs arent that tanky

they just have bunch of avoid damage mods and resists

[fossil mural]

if you ignore red damage and max reses

[split maple]

Basically the only part of rf that is annoying is having to regex maps there

[tranquil sedge]

yea your remnants can make them tanky
but when you can ignore most of the mods well...that kind of answers itself

[split maple]

And read for fire immune

[karmic gust]

max reses doesnt matter when you are chief no

[tranquil sedge]

ye

[fossil mural]

well I am still trying to decide

[split maple]

Smh reading ascendancy nodes

[fossil mural]

cause rf is also not chaos

so no wither

and that really small damage is then reduced by 90

xdd

[tranquil sedge]

i mean ive played toxic rain into expedition logbook running at leaguestart in the past

[split maple]

By what

[tranquil sedge]

i had fun doing it and that was when the damage on it was a lot less

[fossil mural]

this has been capped

at 90

for 10 maps

ive tried

[tranquil sedge]

i mean

thats kind of on you though by not reading remnants if you dont have the dps for it

or if u just blindly big boom it

[fossil mural]

thats what I am trying to figure out

how to do it very early

like day 1-2

[tranquil sedge]

honest answer?

[split maple]

Day1-2 you read lol

[tranquil sedge]

if u want to do expedition, go run logbooks

not fkin maps

and read the remnants

[split maple]

Early it makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

bulk buy black scythe books and run them

[split maple]

Some folks did woke expe day1-2

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/there-has-to-be-a-way-stan-marsh-south-park-s8e9-something-wall-mart-this-way-comes-gif-22284021

[split maple]

Since woke scarb isn't priced around harvest yet

So you shit out logbooks

[tranquil sedge]

woke scarab for expedition o.O

[fossil mural]

thats what I want

[onyx adder]

Ppl out here collecting remnants that dont add loot like theyre pokemon

[tranquil sedge]

interesting

[fossil mural]

Ive been obsessed with it ever since chad mentioned it

but he wont tell what he did or what he thinks is best

[tranquil sedge]

okay well heres a different question

so what if u hit 90% reduced damage on the mobs

[split maple]

didnt he do eblade slayer

[tranquil sedge]

it'll take a little longer to kill them, big deal?

[split maple]

into eblade glad valdoing once he farmed enough expedition to finance

[tranquil sedge]

as long as its not bricking your maps, thats all that matters

and you can keep increasing your dps constantly as you reinvest in the build

[fossil mural]

oh he did it day 2 and he said it felt bad, and he thinks he knows whats the best build to actually do it day 1

[tranquil sedge]

corrupting fever is a good expedition build too

[split maple]

chado is rly good at both saying a lot and not enough at same time 😄

[tranquil sedge]

play it with piercing kinetic bolt to apply cf, on champ or witch

but again im speaking in context of logbooks, but those have higher remnant chains anyway

[grizzled lily]

cws expedition

[split maple]

you wont have cws on day1

[fossil mural]

is cf applied

[grizzled lily]

put the bomb

[fossil mural]

even if proj does no damage

[grizzled lily]

leave the computer

[tranquil sedge]

kb applies cf via hit, you dont care about hit damage

[fossil mural]

okay thats nice

[grizzled lily]

kinda yea but usually day2 you can get it

[pulsar dune]

You can be hit for 0 damage, yes

[tranquil sedge]

even if you stack up on 2-3 max block chance remnants it doesnt matter you hit so often that it works out anyway

[grizzled lily]

esp if league mechanic is profitable

[lilac parcel]

since d2rwarlock came out i havent sold anything in standard

it killed standard

[split maple]

i think imexile did some guide for cf kblast for legions early

[fossil mural]

legions are just so different

[tranquil sedge]

oh i edited my earlier message
i meant to say kinetic bolt not blast

[split maple]

yeah they dont need any defences

[grizzled lily]

standard is making me money

[tight plinth]

theyll be back, its not like d2r has months of content to do

[grizzled lily]

without me being there

[lilac parcel]

lol nothing

[grizzled lily]

it is something

[lilac parcel]

something a few days apart

[grizzled lily]

i only put gems

[fossil mural]

and there is the mastery

so it doesnt matter

[tranquil sedge]

true

[grizzled lily]

standard is ffs

ssf

[lilac parcel]

theyreally need to put ground loot back in the game and make a good league , the last one was absolutly garbage

[fossil mural]

its also hard cause idk whats easy to get day 1, Ive never been to maps day 1

[lilac parcel]

and there is still no loot at all in the game

[fossil mural]

so idk what to pob rn

and try ingame

[lilac parcel]

not even me farmign with multi mirror tier almost nothing

[tranquil sedge]

you can leaguestart any of the builds mentioned earlier

[past mantle]

Is ground loot the buzzword of the league?

[tranquil sedge]

rf, tr, ca, cf, etc

[split maple]

i am tired of pobing boneshatter just to see on friday earthshatter is untouched so can do just basic ass bers anyways

[fossil mural]

yea I know but its important to know what gear you can realistically get

[grizzled lily]

thats all they care

[tight plinth]

yes

[lilac parcel]

it has been for like 3 years no

there is nothing dropping

[past mantle]

Has it?

[split maple]

merc was allright loot

[grizzled lily]

yep

[split maple]

also affliction was technically less than 3 years ago, no?

[onyx adder]

Why do u need to pob boneshatter tho

[past mantle]

Not technically, just actually.

[lilac parcel]

i have never ever blocked mecanics in poe 1 standard but with keeprs i think it will be first time ever i block a mecanic

[onyx adder]

Isnt that skill so optimized its basically bottable

[grizzled lily]

this league yea for sure it was kinda shit, but for 3 years? bold numbers

[split maple]

bleedshatter of complex looks to me basicaly second best option for ssf start

so if earthshatter is ded doing that

[onyx adder]

Yea but that build is copypasta

[past mantle]

There's been no ground loot since nem3 trust.

Youtuber told me.

[onyx adder]

U dont need to pob it

[tight plinth]

whats the breach thing that you go inside in called? fortress?

[past mantle]

Yes.

[lilac parcel]

tell me a clasic build which can facetank uber maven and uber awakener

[split maple]

just needed to eyebal how shit gear i want for t17

and didnt do that build yet so feel slightly paranoid

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno

[lilac parcel]

tell me a build which you do uber maven and can literly go outside for a walk and not die

[tight plinth]

did they say you can only get protect and unstable kinds of breach? or is fortress also in the mix?

[past mantle]

No fortress.

[tight plinth]

sadge

[grizzled lily]

bro is like that one kid meme

[tight plinth]

i liked that one

[lilac parcel]

i have spent millions blood in the tree , and thousands of womb gifts and got jack shat

[past mantle]

Too much busy work for me.

[past mantle]

I think you're either bad or cursed to be unlucky.

Either way it sounds deserved.

[grizzled lily]

one build thats classic and afks uber maven please

[lilac parcel]

why deserved brother , you enjoy an peer when you see him struggling ?

[split maple]

i got from tree so far 2x t0, 4x dbl fbl respite and stash tab of jewels, some even usable

its decent

[fossil mural]

or he is just lying

[split maple]

even ignoring how it shits out overquals

[tight plinth]

i got a rathpith and an aegis

[past mantle]

Yeah.

Suffer for my entertainment.

[lilac parcel]

the onyl think from keepers i liked they wont brign to standard the grafts

[tight plinth]

and some good fractured bases

[final owl]

am i seeing "tree is bad it gives nothing" being argued now for real

[split maple]

still no ktouch tho -.-

[lilac parcel]

brother tree is good until level 70 , for links and starter equipment after 80 and when you get to have decent clear , its garbage

[past mantle]

Lol.

[lilac parcel]

maybe occasional divine and dust for shippments

[past mantle]

I would simply drop more things.

[split maple]

tree gives high overqual bases on regular tho

like thats the main value for me rn

and absolutely needs to be nerfed next league

[lilac parcel]

high base with 2-3 good explicits for continue craft?

[split maple]

27%-30% top class bases

[past mantle]

Tree made a lot of really good shields for me that were 1/8 to hit wish shaper exalt for recovery on block.

[lilac parcel]

show me one

print screen here so i can see it

[split maple]

like this

[final owl]

it poops out nice fractured bases, idk man, i got a couple FB unique jewels and stacks of currency. it's pretty rng obvs but overall it has been good to me.

[fossil mural]

1c on trade zzz

[lilac parcel]

:))

[split maple]

not my fault arm/es bases aint popular rn 😛

[past mantle]

What do you need a print screen of exactly?

[lilac parcel]

of the good shield borther

[past mantle]

It was int shields that rolled 2/3 good es prefixes and then I hit them with a shaper exalt.

[lilac parcel]

show me

have one ?

make it in craft of exile

[past mantle]

Huh?

[lilac parcel]

you got something like this ?

[fossil mural]

hybrid mod

ICANT

[past mantle]

Yeah.

[split maple]

swap life hybrid

to better hybrid

[lilac parcel]

what exalt you hit it for what?

es on block ?

[fossil mural]

es on block Id guess

[past mantle]

Brother.

[grizzled lily]

xd

[lilac parcel]

what man i wanna see the chances

[past mantle]

It's right here.

[lilac parcel]

5%

[split maple]

if you miss you preflock reforge defence

a bunch of times

until you hit it or fill

[fossil mural]

and then you cope annul

[fossil mural]

and continue

[split maple]

its rly easy craft

[lilac parcel]

yes if the tree drops that yes its okay

[past mantle]

[split maple]

otherwise you just recombi prefix

[past mantle]

Okay, I think we figured out that you're just bad at the tree.

[fossil mural]

and then craft block chance

[split maple]

hopefully with t1 block chance or %hybrid instead of life hybrid 😛

[fossil mural]

3 mod recombs in 2026

[split maple]

here they make sense

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-lucilfer-1999-hxh-gif-16928957668416418915

[split maple]

since otherwise you need to multimod preflock any prefix reforge defence

to reserve prefix for later

and that gets slightly pricy

[past mantle]

There were a bunch of things like that, especially with ES gear.

[lilac parcel]

zero chance

[past mantle]

What?

[split maple]

please spec in tree

there are buttons under screenshot

use them

[lilac parcel]

yes sorry

[fossil mural]

naaaaaaaaah

[lilac parcel]

take that back let me speck

[past mantle]

I am not teaching you how to use CoE.

You can't even read which exalt I used.

[fossil mural]

dota players smh

[grizzled lily]

dont u have hydrid mana also?

[fossil mural]

if I go toxic rain or caustic arrow I cant use shield right

even with totems

[tranquil sedge]

you'll be old before that's done, good call lol

[lilac parcel]

yes you can put mana

[grizzled lily]

why life then

[split maple]

why the crusader there

like its pain in the ass to hit crusader es on block

[fossil mural]

thats for reservation

I believe?

[lilac parcel]

well after 3 k shields you will get one did i speck right the tree?