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[spice pecan]

i think it's way more complicated than that

but i'm really fucking bad at a10

i mentally check out by that point

[void oasis]

nah nah this is a5 btw

[fossil mural]

this specific map is always the same

[void oasis]

he doesn't give a skill point so hes not that imporatnt right?

[spice pecan]

oh duh yeah, uhh

[fossil mural]

he does

[whole bluff]

I don't know how you set the graphics in your pictures up. If the red line is where to go and yellow line indicates a portal, leave by the waypoiny in reliquary and come back at the portal, it's correct

[spice pecan]

it looks mostly right

[modern zinc]

there's nothing stopping me from playing on trade league and just not trading

[fossil mural]

this is 2p

[modern zinc]

2p

[fossil mural]

2pp

2 passive points

[void oasis]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_King's_Feast it says u just get armour on the wiki is it dead 2 points?

[whole bluff]

You get a passive for doing the kitavas torments quest

[void oasis]

yeah thats in reliquary tho right?

cause i wanna make sure im prepared for league start im trying to get a sub 5 hour campaign

[normal hedge]

no you can skip that one

[whole bluff]

Yup

[normal hedge]

nut where??????

[spare ore]

: O

[whole bluff]

I'd say it's correct. Follow the red line, drop a portal for rooftop, go to reliquary and get to the waypoint in reliquary. Take waypoint in reliquary to town and take the portal then go to rooftop and face kitava in rooftop. After sin saves you from kitava take the waypoint (if needed, it might be automatic) and take waypoint to reliquary. It might be more efficient to do reliquary on the spot before taking portal towards rooftop, just circle the zone and leave by the waypoint, but I tend to forget and make a new portal

Sec, wrong, editing fixed

[normal hedge]

step 1 is wrong

its a pink line

[void oasis]

tysm dude this helps a lot

[whole bluff]

Npnp

[past mantle]

Pretty decent history lesson so far, took 13 minutes to say something silly. Which was that people didn't care about red beast and essence health during Kalandra. (They did.)

[spice pecan]

he wasn't saying that people didn't care about them, he was saying that wasn't the problem that most people were really pissed about

at least that's the way i understand it

[past mantle]

He does say they addressed it and it was a disconnect, despite it being such a widely reported and talked about issue before anyone began talking about loot en masse.

Calling it a disconnect isn't correct, that's only a conclusion that happens in retrospect.

I'm waiting for the Path of Math mention. 👼

[lilac parcel]

what was the website for calculating dust ? per item and reg to search for them >

[past mantle]

This is also followed up by 30 seconds talking about harvest so it's a choice to flatten that timeline and call it a disconnect.

For the title used, he's been honestly very reasonable. Also thank god he shows exactly which posts he's referencing so I don't have to hunt them.

[whole bluff]

There's some spreadsheet on Google sheets you can probably find in reddit. It imports pricing for uniques from poe.ninja, and changing the URL can let you pick which league it retrieves data for

[tight plinth]

ive been finding timeless jewels in pob for the past hour

[brazen vector]

Did you lose them?

[hard cliff]

horrid mechanic

[tight plinth]

i just recently found out how it works so im obsessed

[worldly bridge]

Youre saying you dont wanna spend thousands of divines?

Smh

[robust dew]

Is there some specific way to see your defenses vs lets say uber shaper bullet hell in pob? Or can you only really see it through the cold damage max hit or w/e?

[brazen vector]

My bf tries to explain it to me every league but I dont get it in my noggin so I use the website one

[tawdry olive]

it's to pair with impossible escape isn't it

it kinda just happens

[brazen vector]

Omg I made it into a screenshot :○

[spice pecan]

this was mine on my aurabot :) 7880 caspiro

the only better one was the one that went into top left cluster slot and turned the two 30attr nodes into aura effect, but that jewel was a mirror and only gave me +1 passive

[brazen vector]

I did something similar for 4 slumlords and the blight amulet x3

[spice pecan]

did you play the jungroan slumlord absolution build

[brazen vector]

No

[spice pecan]

O

[brazen vector]

Iirc it was bama

[spice pecan]

makes sense

[past mantle]

Video was mostly good. Calling things that shift constantly around consistently a crutch is a weird conclusion. By what definition are titanic scarabs a crutch but not affliction? Or not triple beyond?
Calling breach a beloved mechanic that dropped ground loot, by ground loot he means global drop pool, is weirdge since it was always an enabler for things except for weird strats like flash breaches.
Things being unrewarding on base and needing scarabs to be worth doing is true.
Wrapping all of it up around to making the Kalandra league some kind of beginning of the end is also strange because he doesn't really substantiate why that's the case. Just a big leap there.
He's also not explicit about party play being his angle but it's very obviousand I agree that party play needs to be more rewarding than solo play, fomo be damned.

[brazen vector]

Couple leagues ago

[spice pecan]

loot started going downhill after ultimatum, not kalandra

kalandra was just the edge of the cliff

also i feel like he substantiated the case against kalandra quite well, pointed out many different things that were changed negatively during that league that weren't even just loot, and showing how they tripled down on many of the changes, while also giving credence to the things they did actually change (archnem essences/beast health nerf etc)

[opal ingot]

wtf?

shift p

must be a mouse click button on teh sides

[ember goblet]

evil keybind

[whole bluff]

I wanna bind my flasks to F U C K Y now that you point it out

[past mantle]

I really can't say that's the case, especially going off by his own video.
He really goes on to show how many good strats there were each league since then and skips the closest thing we had to a league that wasn't great for his definition of ground loot, which was crucible. Wasn't a poverty league by any means, just the amount of money that came from exclusively interacting with the league mechanic.

[whole bluff]

but F is where I have league mechanics

[opal ingot]

ill change mine to bitch

cuz that's what im gonna do all league

[whole bluff]

xD

why does party have to be more rewarding than solo though?

[past mantle]

Because you get 2 to 6 people to play together and cooperate.

[crisp obsidian]

the point is that ground loot has been awful, ofc there has been strats that have been good but overall loot as been awful

[past mantle]

That should be rewarded more than one person playing the game.

[spice pecan]

it literally isn't

[crisp obsidian]

yeah party play is not more rewarding than solo

[spice pecan]

but i don't have the energy to reiterate this for the third time today

[whole bluff]

I just think there's also no reason for it to be

[crisp obsidian]

solo is always better d/h

[whole bluff]

dota is a group game, or wow

[drowsy eagle]

new league

[spice pecan]

if you think empy's group making 8.6div per hour per person is somehow more rewarding than solo play then i really dont know what to tell you

[opal ingot]

cant wait to try the new breach mechanic

[whole bluff]

I'm not saying they make more, I'm saying there's no inherent need for them to make more

[spice pecan]

and they don't

[worldly bridge]

I think by crutch he means that these mechanics had that hidden arbitrary bonus chris talked about

[crisp obsidian]

no ones asking for them to make more than solo's

afaik

[past mantle]

He does not because he talks about this in the mercs section.

[worldly bridge]

Oh rifht

Sorry i watched it at 5 am

[tranquil umbra]

if group play did make more than solo there would be riots

[crisp obsidian]

these bonuses still existed in some content

in mercs iirc

and then the rest got removed finally

[worldly bridge]

I suppose he means “unintentional” interactions?

Ior maybe something that was just overlooked by ggg

[hard cliff]

by who?

If you team up to riot you're doing group play also

[worldly bridge]

Like hoards

[hard cliff]

[worldly bridge]

Once ppl found hoards it got nerfed into the ground

[crisp obsidian]

but also hoards is not ground loot

that's the point

you have to do anything but kill monsters

to get loot

[worldly bridge]

Then titanic exiles

[crisp obsidian]

explosive barrels, hoards, strongboxes

[worldly bridge]

Then ghosts, just go down the line

[crisp obsidian]

then you had the exile strats where yes you kill monsters but only unique ones

and specific ones

[hard cliff]

I just got banned from dota the other day

[crisp obsidian]

and the rest don't matter

[past mantle]

He definitely didn't when he actively shows multiple leagues getting a lot of mechanics that are rewarding, then get one upped the next league. Having the ground loot richest league, affliction, right after going over 2 really loot pumping mechanics in the previous league, which was ghosting and the other, come after Kalandra really throws a spanner in that thought.

[hard cliff]

feels good

[spice pecan]

abyss hoards themselves are loot tiles, the mobs you had to kill to spawn them were fucking worthless

[spice pecan]

did you break your items

[worldly bridge]

Its not really tile loot because its just a chest right?

[whole bluff]

I was gonna say "rip" but now I'm confused

[hard cliff]

it's a "Play two low prior games to get out of jail" ban

[worldly bridge]

Something like legion warhoards are tile

[spice pecan]

a chest is a loot tile, especially when it comes from a mechanic

[silent leaf]

Low priority

[spice pecan]

low prio isn't that bad, i've been in it dozens of times

[silent leaf]

Your good boy points are gone

[hard cliff]

so I'm done with my two week dota arc

[spice pecan]

queue low prio on SEA

it's a blast ngl

even with dogshit ping

[silent leaf]

Fuck no

[opal ingot]

low prio makes you just play one of the 3 preselected chars, right?

[past mantle]

Nope, he talks about titanics when he says this. Which didn't even get removed next league, just nerfed.

[crisp obsidian]

chests are loot tiles

[spice pecan]

nah dude, low prio on SEA is some of the most fun dota ive had

[silent leaf]

Playing 3 heros you aren't familiar with

Is cancer

[hard cliff]

I am not gonna play low prio games too play turbo

I bought deep rock galactic survivors instead

[spice pecan]

im not even baiting lmaooo

[hard cliff]

I dunt need to be playing dota anyways

[spice pecan]

i got to play CM carry

[hard cliff]

I don't think you're baiting but I think you got lucky

[opal ingot]

yeah ever since they introduced turbo i never played a single game of classic or ranked

[silent leaf]

I remember needing to play leshrac or broodmother or fucking elder titan

[worldly bridge]

Nerfed
To the point people felt it necessary to find a completely new strategy?

[opal ingot]

actually, i dont think i played ranked

im unranked

even after 1k hours

[worldly bridge]

Thats a pretty severe nerf

[hard cliff]

where tf do you live lol

I thought you were American but you in sea?

[whole bluff]

I can imagine it being fun like ARAM

[spice pecan]

leshrac with old bloodstone holy

[past mantle]

Severe nerf doesn't mean crutch, because if it does, affliction is a crutch.

[spice pecan]

yeah im american, but for low prio i specifically queue SEA

[silent leaf]

I never once touched them

[whole bluff]

AP carry on the fairy support, etc (edit: Lulu)

[spice pecan]

because that's where the lp queues are the fastest

[past mantle]

And then we classify the richest league ever as a crutch and nothing is a crutch any more.

[hard cliff]

I wonder why lol

[spice pecan]

cuz they're all toxic as shitfuck

[past mantle]

Which is my point, that his definition of a crutch means nothing.

[opal ingot]

we'll never know

[worldly bridge]

Its a crutxh because hes saying base loot sucks

[opal ingot]

sea players are known to have the best behavior out of anyone in the entire world

we are saints

a loving community

[past mantle]

Base loot sucked during affliction and base loot sucked during 3nem too by that definition.

[worldly bridge]

He was arfuinf that no one noticed the problems because there was always some unintentional or overlooked mechanic that gave ppl ghat loot feeling

Thats what makes them crutches

[spice pecan]

he pretty clearly points out that the reason base loot in affliction was fine is because of the MASSIVE blanket quant/rarity you got from the mechanic

[worldly bridge]

Yes????

Base loot did suck

[silent leaf]

I'm more of a poppy fan

[spice pecan]

that literally carried the entire league on its back

[worldly bridge]

Affliction was just an insane fuckin multiplier

[hard cliff]

us east

[past mantle]

So there wasn't a change since Kalandra adn it was just a shift where loot came from.

Woaghe...

[crisp obsidian]

loot from base content did not suck during affliction cause affliction boosted that

[worldly bridge]

This is a better explanation actually yeah

[crisp obsidian]

that's the point

[worldly bridge]

No????

[opal ingot]

that's hilarious LMAO

[worldly bridge]

Didni say that

[whole bluff]

I had fun doing stuff like throw a snowball with Ashe, shoot your arrow, ride the arrow (cuz snowball) into a target stunned for 5 seconds and kill them

[past mantle]

That's what I'm saying by following your explanation.

[silent leaf]

Oh you mean ingame

[hard cliff]

best part was he did in fact carry hard af

[silent leaf]

[hard cliff]

we crushed

[worldly bridge]

I said to listen to mythik

Afterwards

[crisp obsidian]

EVERYTHING was good loot in affliction, nowadays we have maybe 1 or 2 things that provide loot and those aren't loot from killing stuff

just from boxes etc

or well

[past mantle]

He doesn't actually, because he says how it overshadowed ghosting and the other thing people did in the previous league, which he said was good loot.

[crisp obsidian]

from killing without abusing specific scarabs

[whole bluff]

I just think ARAM is like a comic relief moshpit where you practice your creativity and reflexes and fun things happen ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worldly bridge]

Im also curious what exactly youre arguing for at this point. I remember you said he was unsubstantiated in regards to kalandra?

[past mantle]

Also these weren't nerfed, as he points out.

[crisp obsidian]

ghosting was nerfed

what

[past mantle]

Eventually, yes.

Not what I'm saying.

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/GfQtoHen4g-D ew i pobbed trickster by accident send help

[spice pecan]

have you been hacked? blink twice

[past mantle]

I'm saying his definition of crutch is such a nothing burger that you can throw anything that multiplied loot into this category. And saying everything after Kalandra is a crutch but everything before was actually different is just a bad conclusion.

[worldly bridge]

Ok trickster isnt that bad guys

[crisp obsidian]

wtf

[tranquil umbra]

I believe they should fix ground loot by applying the gilded allflame on every area by default and making Kingsmarch the only source of currency and equipment

[crisp obsidian]

atleast it's poison

we haven't completely lost him yet

[karmic gust]

maybe it should be LL sabo miner jiquani poison instead

[crisp obsidian]

wait why ar eyou using eternal blessing

[karmic gust]

what else would i use

[crisp plinth]

i think we just need more exciting uniques we can find that actually work outside of 2 belts mainly

everything else cool is locked behind killing bosses hundreds of time

[crisp obsidian]

but you have a bunch of other auras no?

[karmic gust]

eternal blessing just prevents other reservations on mana

[past mantle]

And by the definition of ground loot being global pool drops, things like Valdo's are a big source of ground loot, and if that's the case, ground loot doing good and one of the best consistent money makers.

[crisp obsidian]

o

oh it's LL

[karmic gust]

so everything that either reserves no mana or is reserved elsewhere works

[crisp obsidian]

I saw the ES and thought it was

CI xd

[karmic gust]

nah CI sucks :d

also cant do ci with jiquani anyway

[crisp obsidian]

yeah I realized afterwards

I didn't even look at other stuff

just saw ES

and then eternal blessing and bunch of other auras xdd

[past mantle]

Monkey paw curls.
2 belts only come from Valdo's now.

[worldly bridge]

Idk what to say then

[crisp plinth]

remove the two belts

make 2 other uniques cool

[worldly bridge]

It definitely made sense to me that if fhe entire playerbase was complaining about loot, then one day someone found a broken strat that made things feel ok, everyone ran it, and then it got nerfed only to be replaced by some other niche strat

[crisp obsidian]

I am like 99% sure that he means the removal of the historical bonuses as crutch but I gotta rewatch to be sure

[past mantle]

Entirely reverse your perception on unique weapons GGG and buff basically all of them. 👼

[worldly bridge]

That sounds pretty crutchy to me

[past mantle]

That doesn't apply to titanics, which is when he says this.

[crisp obsidian]

didn't exiles have those historical bonuses

which is why it was so good

until they removed it

[worldly bridge]

All of the strats people felt gave them good loot just kept disappearing

And once they were all gone

[past mantle]

Nope, they had unique mob bonuses.

[worldly bridge]

Everyone realized how bad it was

[past mantle]

Then went on to be good because titanics splittings.

[past mantle]

Lol no.

It's because loot actively got quad tapped this league explicitly, which is what made people look back on things. It's not that everything before was bad, that's just some obtuse revisionism.

[robust dew]

theres 0 chaos damage in the uber shaper fight right?

[past mantle]

Correct.

[spice pecan]

i mean people also thought ground loot was bad in settlers too

it was better in mercs because, guess what, we had another blanket quant buff

but still nowhere near affliction, but noticeably better than settlers

[tight plinth]

fix my ground loot gegege 😡

[normal hedge]

mercs was really good with free extra quant + 16.5s

[past mantle]

And t16.5s, risk scarabs, alva evolvings, blight, titanic rituals.

Etc.

[split maple]

loot felt allright in settlers tbh

[past mantle]

Mercs had like 1000000 things going for it.

[split maple]

rogues wildwood fishing mmm

[crisp obsidian]

mercs had 0 ground loot

even with merc quant

[spice pecan]

even more maps that have more x mods on them though

so

[past mantle]

Mercs also added allflames, forgot about that one.

[opal ingot]

bless the allflames

[normal hedge]

betrayal slop

[past mantle]

Affliction titanics were so .

It's just so much nonsense that's always there that makes so much money.

[crisp obsidian]

titanics didn't exist in affliction?

[normal hedge]

scarabs got reworked a league after

[past mantle]

I meant to say necropolis.

Not even titanics, I meant to say exiles.

[spice pecan]

there was the one scarab before titanic

forgot the name

[crisp obsidian]

woweee

what else did you not mean

🙂

[past mantle]

Just that.

[tranquil umbra]

to protest PoE1 we will all play PoE2

[spice pecan]

no thanks

[opal ingot]

i will not subject myself to torture

[karmic gust]

mercs had a lot of ground loot no? with evo shrine :d

[past mantle]

Keepers is possibly the poorest league, in terms of his definition of loot, we had since Sentinel except maybe Crucible? It's also very hard to have any real measure going from Mercs to Keepers.

[normal hedge]

idk breach was really good in mercs

[crisp obsidian]

I wouldn't really call that a lot but even then you had to use a specific scarab to get loot

[past mantle]

Breach was surely a thing in mercs.

[karmic gust]

yea but it was regular monster loot

[opal ingot]

@normal hedge do you already have a plan on what build you'll play for 3.28

[crisp obsidian]

scarabs should be supporting loot

[karmic gust]

it def counts as ground loot

[crisp obsidian]

not creating all of it

[tranquil umbra]

it was creating all of it because of a specific interaction

[past mantle]

I did breach to 100 in Mercs and some more. It was getting beat out by most mechanics in temrs of profit that league.

[karmic gust]

stuff like league mechanic rewards are not ground loot or fixed rewards like the exile reward tiles

but rest def is

[void oasis]

from the solaris temple where is the solaris concourse? is there a general tip/hint as to where to go? im tryna speed run?

[crisp obsidian]

ye I mean it does count as ground loot, didn't say against that

[karmic gust]

breach was fine if alva did not existed in mercs it would def be one of best money makersr

[crisp obsidian]

I said there wasn't a lot of it :d

[karmic gust]

but alva was just breach but better

[royal stump]

• Guis one question how to filter the inscribes on trade site but to show the results for x20 chaos not x10 ?

[past mantle]

Snap's definition of ground loot is global drops basically.

[opal ingot]

idk i just went with vibes. you can download lailloken ui. it has a bunch of tips on telling you where to go

[karmic gust]

and we had breach in like

almostngood state

was so close

then they rework breach

[past mantle]

Namely currency, scarabs and uniques.

[karmic gust]

and delete all the fun

xd

[normal hedge]

not really, waiting for patch notes, i wanted to start KF but not sure if its going to survive

[opal ingot]

honestly im never gonna get good in acts if i keep relying on that tool XD

[thick sparrow]

Looking to follow a guide for Molten Strike of Zeneth, is it the red path my priority as a I lv, I'm 78 now.

[past mantle]

And that is exactly what Alva did.

[tranquil umbra]

to commemorate this we will introduce the 0.4 temple in 3.28

[opal ingot]

makes sense

[karmic gust]

yea that would be my definition too

[whole bluff]

I might make my cwdt jiquani a real build with poison ice spear tbh

it already is poison ice spear, just a mess

[past mantle]

It's really just a video that kinda goes against his own point when you establish what "ground loot" really means by his definition.

[normal hedge]

they surely going to buff toxic rain and it gonna be op

[crisp obsidian]

the biggest problem is the loot coming from specific modifiers

and nowhere else

most of it

like enrage strongboxes

abyss hoards

etc

[karmic gust]

i think something like evo shrine and the more reward boosters are prtty much perfect way to boost ground loot

so the old breach scarab as well

[past mantle]

The only real takeaway from that video is that they should buff party play to be better than playing solo.

[karmic gust]

and the blight scarab

[past mantle]

Flash breach one?

[karmic gust]

yea

idk if thats the name

[tranquil umbra]

we should make it so ground loot instead creates loot tiles

[karmic gust]

but the more rewards per previous breach

[crisp obsidian]

but what modifiers are there to boost loot

from monsters

[karmic gust]

or something

[crisp obsidian]

what can we use to boost loot atm

outside of evo scarab

[karmic gust]

well now we cant do shit

because they removed all of it

[crisp obsidian]

what about last league

outside of evo scarab

[karmic gust]

blight and breach scarabs

also stuff like extra monster mods

from bismuth etc

those are just regular multipliers to the loot

that dont add specific rewards

and are very strong

[crisp obsidian]

bismuth is gucchi, blight and breach means we are forced to run two mechanics

from what 10-12 diff ones?

[past mantle]

Blight, risks, evolutions, all flames, flash breaches.

[karmic gust]

well they added the reward stuff to legion as well kinda

[split maple]

ephemeral allflames were good last leg

[crisp obsidian]

legion is not rewarding

at all

[karmic gust]

so they just need to do more scarabs like that

[crisp obsidian]

legion is absolutely dogpoop loot

[split maple]

but truthfully a lot of loot was like hoards not mobs 😛

[spice pecan]

i ran legion this league

[opal ingot]

red just means the most commonly specced nodes for those who use msoz, but you also have to consider different classes might be using it, and some builds might have invested so much currency that the tree they spec on is not something you can follow becuase it would probably involve using lots of expensive clusters and jewels or whatnot

i think it would be better if you sort it by the time machine, and set level minimum/maximum limits, set the class, and check the various characters and how they progressed

you could do that and spend lots of time cooking your own stuff or just watch a guide

[spice pecan]

i got literally zero items from the mobs themselves

all my loot came from clicking the boxes

[past mantle]

Oh yeah hoards, entirely forgot.

[normal hedge]

legion is tiled loot

doenst count

[past mantle]

Also giga rogue exiles in ritual.

[crisp obsidian]

hoards don't count either

[normal hedge]

yes

[crisp obsidian]

which was removed

deleted

[normal hedge]

same for strongboxes

[crisp obsidian]

gone'd

[past mantle]

So what?

[spice pecan]

i'm aware, it's just very odd that a mechanic where the entire point is to kill as many mobs as fast as possible... is only a tile strat?

[split maple]

like if we looking strictly at monster loot, the most fun i had last league was ephemerals

[crisp obsidian]

????

[karmic gust]

i guess this is flat rewards yea

[crisp obsidian]

tiled loot

loot tiles

[past mantle]

Bro.

[spice pecan]

still nothing from the mobs, it's all boxes

[karmic gust]

actually no it doesnt add new reward boxes on top of monsters no

[spice pecan]

it just juices the boxes more from what i could tell

[whole bluff]

is this good? cuz it seems very very fun

[crisp obsidian]

ah you were answering that part I c

[tranquil umbra]

there is an atlas keystone for this

[spice pecan]

it's fun but quite rippy

[past mantle]

You need to get a grip.

[karmic gust]

i saw someone doing it with blight of contagion last league and it was very rewarding

[whole bluff]

I might try it then

[past mantle]

Evolution shrines needed to stay.

[whole bluff]

either afford ff profane bloom or get explosions on a shadow

[past mantle]

That was good hard content.

[whole bluff]

and use foulborn embalmer

all the stuff

[opal ingot]

i tried this once on my 0 budget la in 3.24 that barely worked and managed to scrape off a headhunter cuz it was like 10d or some shit

i got my ass handed

[karmic gust]

yea they should def revert to last league evo shrines

idk why they hate difficult stuff being rewarding

[past mantle]

They don't hate certain difficult stuff being rewarding and I don't get why they're so selective about it.

[crisp obsidian]

cause ggg hates when people can farm loot

[worldly bridge]

double evo isnt intended

[past mantle]

Allflames didn't get touched, valdos still there.

[worldly bridge]

a single evo is fine ofc

[karmic gust]

im not talking about current bug

just last league evo shrine

[worldly bridge]

flo said smth abt evo

i shoiulda reply pinged

[whole bluff]

valdo in a way is just funneling global loot to the people with the best builds, skill, and will to risk chars

imo

[karmic gust]

ah alright

yea i hope he doesnt mean the bugged ones xd

[past mantle]

I don't.

[worldly bridge]

most ppl arent even like

touching valdos

valdos should be considered an exception

and the rest of the game balance shouldnt be weighted around their existence

[crisp obsidian]

that's not what he was saying

he was saying some diff content is fine

like valdos

but other is not

for ggg

[whole bluff]

I think thats why they are good tbh, cuz GGG thinks theyre so hard that people doing them dont really count, or its just as if the item dropped baseline

[past mantle]

Exactly that.

[karmic gust]

they love stuff that has complete brick mods being rewarding

pretty sure

[worldly bridge]

they apparently dont

[past mantle]

Allflames don't brick tho.

[worldly bridge]

since theyre likely doing another pass on t17s

[karmic gust]

no but valdos do

[worldly bridge]

well ig

valdos are different

i literally just said balance shouldnt weight towards valdos

[karmic gust]

also t17s having brick mods is biggst reason why they were so rewarding in first plcae too pretty sure

[crisp obsidian]

t17's aren't really hard

[worldly bridge]

so

[crisp obsidian]

just annoying

[karmic gust]

because they love that shit

[worldly bridge]

yeah exactly

i could probably run 17s on like over half of the chars ive made and im shit at the game

but im not gonna spend time rolling over action speed slow, drowning, awakeners desolation etc etc

[karmic gust]

but only thing content with brick mods achieves is that it pushes builds out of meta

and ppl paly something else

[split maple]

last league t17 felt balanced allright due to t16.5 being strong - like if you didnt want to run them you didnt need to

[karmic gust]

and thats it

[split maple]

this league t17 mod nerfs fucked t16.5 over in the ass

[worldly bridge]

i think before we say wether or not 17s need a loot change, we need to get their intention straight

are they there for loot

or for ubers

or maybe both? maybe ubers get moved back to keystones

idk what theyll do

but as of right now 17s are not "ok"

[tranquil umbra]

when you enter a t17 you will now start playing PoE2

[worldly bridge]

in general

idc what anyone here says with thousands of more hours than me

17s are NOT ok

[crisp obsidian]

I don't think anyone thinks they are fine

[worldly bridge]

so many people do

[livid quarry]

the layouts contribute a lot to the difficulty

[pulsar dune]

Maybe just move the frags to the non-ubers ngl

[worldly bridge]

the sentiment ive gotten from this chat is that people hate the stupid mods and thats it

[opal ingot]

add the layouts too

its dogshit

[livid quarry]

gotta tank dmg in the face when theres no space to dodge

[crisp obsidian]

people hate the layouts

[worldly bridge]

they love EVERYTHING else (well actually layouts yeah)

[crisp obsidian]

more than the mods

xdd

[worldly bridge]

but i personally dont mind the layouts

theyre not that bad

[split maple]

my issue with changes to ubers to being keystone based or non-uber boss drop frag and shite is that some of non-ubers are absolute pita to access

[crisp obsidian]

they are bad

the layouts are the worst part

[worldly bridge]

but then again i ran like 200 cells maps last league

so im a psycho

[tranquil umbra]

Belly of the Beast layout

[split maple]

like farming ue, sirus, dread etc is faster with ubers than with non-ubers for feared

[pulsar dune]

It's a mite unthematic ngl

[split maple]

so changing uber access to being pinacle based would make feared rotas like idk once per few days instead per few hours

[opal ingot]

make 16.5 always roll with 6 mods

[pulsar dune]

Why are the hardest bosses in the game all in the same pool, but pinnacles have actually interesting buildup

But yeah, would fuck over ssf

[karmic gust]

well the change itself was good but ubersr being more accessible than regular versions is def weird

but all the boss loot being tied to ppl clickign uber keystone before was def ass

[split maple]

i kinda want ubers to stay accessible and pinacles to become more accessible

[worldly bridge]

do you guys think being able to vendor frags to get other frags would fix the problem

[split maple]

especially incarnations

[pulsar dune]

Hm, maybe

Incarnations are really rough

[worldly bridge]

if i have four barans frags and i just vendor 3 to convert to the next one, then 2 to the next, then 1 to the next

[pulsar dune]

But even ue is a damn process

[split maple]

you can harvest swap dear

[karmic gust]

doesnt harvest swap frags

[worldly bridge]

maybe just for the uber elder frags?

[worldly bridge]

no shot

[tranquil umbra]

yes shot

[pulsar dune]

20 fights

[split maple]

all non-uber fragies are swapable

[tranquil umbra]

this guy is so stoopid

[worldly bridge]

wait frags are fine then??????

[opal ingot]

give him a break 🥹

[worldly bridge]

you just clear whatever you have then do like 3 maps of harvest

[split maple]

issue is you need to run 16 maps 2 elders and 2 shapers for one uelder fight or alternativelly a few t17 for one uue

[karmic gust]

yea then see whats atually required to do regular uber elder fight for example :d

[worldly bridge]

its she pls

[opal ingot]

yeah give her a break 🥹

[pulsar dune]

Maybe the second UE onwards should be easier to get

Make UE drop two frags or smth

Maybe at a reduced rate

[tranquil umbra]

I mean tbf if you are doing guardian rotas while getting to UE you get more loot

[worldly bridge]

ok back to all ears

[tranquil umbra]

and swapping which guardian you are fighting is also very easy

[worldly bridge]

364/484

[tranquil umbra]

horizon orbs my beloved

[split maple]

another issue is that you farm t17 anyways while guardian maps kinda want you to dedicate time for them - either wasting time with dp and boss drop wheels (so needs to be separate atlas) or you need to use influ of conversion scarb, so again cannot drop during basic strats

like i have rn full stash tabs of t17

[worldly bridge]

make harby orbs convert maps to guardians

[split maple]

and barely anny guardians

[worldly bridge]

WAIT

new orb

turns any non guardian map into a guardian map

[tranquil umbra]

how to completely destroy Destructive Play

[worldly bridge]

yessss yessss more currency tab bloat

[worldly bridge]

:3

[pulsar dune]

Isn't the main loot from DP maven frags and chisels these days

The first couple days guardian maps were 5c each on the high end

Maybe 7

[tranquil umbra]

I use DP to supply guardian rotas but ig that's not everyone

[karmic gust]

chisels being so pricy would def be my main reason to run DP

[split maple]

its faster to get chisels from betrayal tho

[opal ingot]

Yeha rin is bonkers

[karmic gust]

i havent touched betrayal in a while but if thats the case sounds pretty good

[whole bluff]

DP is just there to give more loot when doing formed or twisted for me

[opal ingot]

Yeah for ssf people xd

[split maple]

but like my main issue with ubers vs pinacles it that you obtain access to ubers on the passive (since you droping and farming t17 practically no matter what you do), while pinacles need dedicated effort (to drop guardian maps, to run them, etc.) its just annoying

[pulsar dune]

It's just rin and scarabs, haven't ever seen anything good from grav or random currency

[tranquil umbra]

exactly

[whole bluff]

the maps, I just buy the maps

[opal ingot]

You just spam Intel and make connections and rush syndicate medallions

[split maple]

you get like 5-10 chisels per 4 maps yea

[pulsar dune]

And Cadiro, but I'm always out of gold

[terse sleet]

Guys how good is being able to curse hex immune enemies?

[karmic gust]

not very

[pulsar dune]

Do you mean hexproof?

[karmic gust]

also if you are talking about the occu node

then yea hexproof is differentthan curse immune

[pulsar dune]

Don't think hex immunity is in the game

Exped has curse immunity

[tranquil umbra]

hexproof is hex immunity

[terse sleet]

That what I meant ye

[limber lance]

Does ggg release teasers on a Saturday?

[tranquil umbra]

no

[karmic gust]

suspicious lack of teasers so far

[pulsar dune]

It's unaffected by hexes if anything

IG we'll have to learn during the league

[opal ingot]

Just you wait the reveal is gonna be fuckin massive

[crisp obsidian]

it can only mean good things

[pulsar dune]

The secrets are kinda thematic

[opal ingot]

The reveals are merely mirages

[tranquil umbra]

the reveal will include fishing

[karmic gust]

poe3 announcement

[normal hedge]

secrets of the ground loot

[opal ingot]

Just wanna know, when do ggg usually post patch notes before league start?

[crisp obsidian]

I said good

😔

[crisp obsidian]

after stream

usually

[tranquil umbra]

mirages of ground loot

[normal hedge]

right after zigg's interview

[opal ingot]

Ic.thanks

[karmic gust]

its now scheduled apparently btw

instead of right after ziggys interview

[normal hedge]

💀

[pulsar dune]

5 days til reveal right?

[opal ingot]

Uhuh

[tranquil umbra]

Yes

[karmic gust]

i guess to make ppl hate the q&a a bit less :d

which makes sense

[whole bluff]

it's a good thing ziggy can yap with them however short or long they want imo

[pulsar dune]

Honestly kinda based, yea

[opal ingot]

Better post the hot question ziggyd

[pulsar dune]

Q&A is nice, and the vitriol was real since it was stalling the patch notes

[normal hedge]

at least its ziggy and not talkativetri

positivitytri

[opal ingot]

So tell me again why talkative Tri is so disliked

[fossil mural]

so

whens them notes out

[opal ingot]

Poor guy is fighting for his life in reddit whenever there's a post about him xd

[karmic gust]

hes clueless about the games and pretends he isnt maybe?

[tranquil umbra]

too talkative for their experience level

[fossil mural]

he got the invite and the haters didnt

[opal ingot]

Ahh. Reminds me of the time he mentioned something about totems and ghazzy saying that shit ain't true lol

[pseudo axle]

tried doing the incursion/evolving shrine farm, dear LORD its so rippy and computer-melty

[fossil mural]

no one truly knows how totems work

its a classic

[fossil mural]

just play charlatan

literally cant die

[spice pecan]

he used to come off as like, toxic positivity to me

[tranquil umbra]

what I'm hearing is buff spell totem

[tight plinth]

doesnt help that he has a very punchable face

[pseudo axle]

I'm in keepers

[whole bluff]

toxic positivity is very annoying

[spice pecan]

i'm glad i know how totems work

[fossil mural]

yea okay

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-that-you-think-that-teddy-lockwood-you-i'm-so-glad-you-see-it-that-way-that's-a-good-way-to-look-at-it-gif-51373181724100686

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/lain-serial-experiments-lain-discord-logging-on-degenerate-gif-23473725

[fossil mural]

also turns out

[tight plinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/491956804042096650/1067818549751586907/oldge_typing.gif

[fossil mural]

if you put 1k divs into a build

[tight plinth]

this is me on discord

[fossil mural]

it works

[tawdry olive]

it does kinda feel like GGG doesnt take interviews from people with enough knowledge to ask hard questions anymore

[native abyss]

old as hell

[tawdry olive]

at least for POE1

[fossil mural]

pretending like its not all staged

[tight plinth]

i want quin to do the interview. hes going to ask the dog scenario to mark 100%

[opal ingot]

Check this shit out

[tawdry olive]

guy is okay in.. short bursts, iunno what he's like outside of the random clips i see of him

but if he like that all the time... man

[opal ingot]

https://pobb.in/5LFqE9fQqoLW

@fossil mural

[tight plinth]

hes an acquired taste

[karmic gust]

is that self casting tornado? ew

[opal ingot]

And he has a herald on another slot

[karmic gust]

not even arcanist at least

[opal ingot]

The longer you look at it the more your eyes bleed

[karmic gust]

thats disgusting

[fossil mural]

I am sorry for you

[normal hedge]

Havoc's guide on maxroll does the same, and people actually recommend that here lol

[icy zinc]

them larges look fucked sir

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/goemon-impact-dashing-roller-skating-ganbare-goemon-mystical-ninja-gif-1022209279324362034

[icy zinc]

thanks for telling me its fractured

very important

[split maple]

pobb.in display of clusters is fucked

not depending on pob

[normal hedge]

if theyre maxroll they dont show

[fossil mural]

am I missing something

[opal ingot]

No you're not

This guy is giga RMTing

[icy zinc]

tf

[karmic gust]

doesnt havoc just make leveling guides

for leveling it makes sense

[icy zinc]

the rmt files

[opal ingot]

The reason for his gem selection is because of the colors

[karmic gust]

i guess

[normal hedge]

he has a kb endgame pob

[karmic gust]

but otherwise sounds stupid

[normal hedge]

with selfcast tornado

[opal ingot]

He doesn't know how to change color

[tight plinth]

wait this pob has actual items on it

[fossil mural]

lmao

[tight plinth]

i thought it was a league start pob lol

[karmic gust]

yea its rmt pob

[fossil mural]

literally unclicked cluster

[karmic gust]

prettys ure

xd

[icy zinc]

it was said to be 1000 div as a joke

[tranquil umbra]

who made this

[icy zinc]

pre emptive description

[split maple]

but like if this is rmt pob

what did the money go for actually

[opal ingot]

Some dude I found on poebuild subreddit

[fossil mural]

bad trades

[icy zinc]

the zimbabwe

[icy zinc]

damn, poe build subreddit links without 500 million dps shock ticked?

[opal ingot]

Yeah he didn't say it was 1k div but I think some of the items here can total to 1k xd

[fossil mural]

it was a money laundering scheme

[icy zinc]

strange

[opal ingot]

Simplex is half of it

[split maple]

simplex and helical are 90% of budget there

[icy zinc]

ye simplex do look like one

even more annoying to craft simplex now

[normal hedge]

i love that he has 2 golems

[split maple]

like ignoring these two the hardest item to craft are flasks

[normal hedge]

and a tincture

[fossil mural]

look

at the rings

[icy zinc]

strange golemalist without primords

[tranquil umbra]

-55 crit multi

[tranquil umbra]

we gotta jail this guy

[fossil mural]

well now thats one hella of a ring

[tight plinth]

he has 1 dps per chaos orb invested 😭

[icy zinc]

cheapest frac fail ring ig

evasion hm

[tawdry olive]

that ring seems like a budget holdover that you buy from someone's failed garbage
but if he actually spent a few hundred divs on it tho...

[icy zinc]

[fossil mural]

this isnt real

[normal hedge]

int stacker without the int stacker unique jewels

🥀

[fossil mural]

100%

[opal ingot]

Man I wish I had the reddit link. Too bad I deleted my reddit account l

[fossil mural]

bait pob

[icy zinc]

i wouldn't mind increasing my dps for 5k per 5k chaos orbs

[opal ingot]

Let me see if I can search using the pob

[split maple]

isnt evasion ok mod tho for that evaes mastery

[icy zinc]

thats like every hour increasing your dps

end of day 60k

[split maple]

like the only issue with ring is -multi

[opal ingot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1pmiu85/kinetic_black_int_stacker/

[fossil mural]

its a 5% dps ring

[crisp obsidian]

why is there a tincture

[tawdry olive]

>kinetic black

[fossil mural]

that gives him like nothing else

[opal ingot]

why everything

[karmic gust]

?????

[karmic gust]

lmao

dude is even aware that hes stupid

[icy zinc]

he did mention the flask should be changed

[karmic gust]

but cant decide if kb wander should go crit

[split maple]

taking "Increases and Reductions to Spell Damage also apply to Attacks while wielding a Wand" is kinda funny

[tranquil umbra]

whirling blades 😭

[fossil mural]

bro he has a small unclicked cluster

that shit is

so funny

[opal ingot]

what are the 2 instant travel skills better than dash?

whirling blades

[cosmic raptor]

@fossil mural sup

[opal ingot]

👏 👏👏

[karmic gust]

dude not even being able to recolor his sockets

[fossil mural]

check the pob

above

[split maple]

can someone bother to check if this is the same guy who failed at recoloring already last league

[icy zinc]

although rmters are still exist, it was funny seeing clearly suspicious hh builds when their account had 2 characters and thats about it

[fossil mural]

you think its a bad actor

[karmic gust]

stole moms credit card and made KB build, unlucky

[split maple]

i remember that being a reocuring thing

[icy zinc]

decades ago

[cosmic raptor]

Phrecia

[gritty epoch]

Crit stackers

[fossil mural]

this gives as much dps

as his ring

[opal ingot]

dont kbers use the foulborn one

that gives you more lightning flat per kill

[split maple]

well its surprise that his ring isnt actively gimping his dps

[tawdry olive]

rmt is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be.... unnatural

[icy zinc]

coordination with the 5.5% more dps 🥵 🥵 🥵 🥵

[split maple]

atziri is ok for kb, the flat per kill is more for 5ways

but like its hella budget choice

[opal ingot]

ahh

[icy zinc]

flat per kill is nice on shrines evolution beyond maps

[normal hedge]

the flat one is good, atziri is okayish, spell dmg + block + es on block bis

[icy zinc]

gotta go fast

[crisp obsidian]

I am bis

[icy zinc]

bistch

[normal hedge]

u're a party player c word

[icy zinc]

/s

[opal ingot]

so his mom's credit card reached the limit before he could buy an es on block shield 🥹

[crisp obsidian]

me? never

[normal hedge]

literally aurabot only

[crisp obsidian]

I only duo sometimes

[split maple]

he managed to get simplex and bricked helical lol

[tawdry olive]

how does rmt'ing work anyway, do they go and buy the individual items?
cause if they're just buying a build aint no way it turns out that horrendous right

[split maple]

i hope mom wont be too angry when bills arive

[icy zinc]

aurabot mf yoinker

[opal ingot]

im guessing they just get the divs and they use their free will to purchase the items on their own

[fossil mural]

there is a market for both

[normal hedge]

think theres many ways like buying entire builds on tft, buying currency and buying items

well, 2nd -> 1st

[tranquil umbra]

this one definitely bought divs and not the build

because it's unfiltered dogshit

[crisp obsidian]

let's not discuss rmt

please

[tight plinth]

^

[tranquil umbra]

also yeah

[fossil mural]

hey at least its 115 ms

[tight plinth]

lets talk about his enlightened lightning golem

[fossil mural]

idk I like the useless cluster more

the cherry for me

[tranquil umbra]

somehow writing kinetic black instead of kinetic blast is for me

[fossil mural]

sounds like a super hero name

[spare ore]

lmao

[normal hedge]

i love kinetic black of clustering

[tawdry olive]

kblack

[opal ingot]

and not putting one of the reservation skills in the enlighten slots xd

[fossil mural]

has anyone done like a troll build yet

[tranquil umbra]

let's talk about enlightened tornado actually

[fossil mural]

where things seem normal

but at a closer inspection

[tranquil umbra]

empy

did a what

200 billion dps on poe ninja build

[normal hedge]

rookie numbers

[tawdry olive]

isnt that just every bait youtuber league starter

[stoic horizon]

yeah

and it couldnt kill mobs in campaign zones

[tranquil umbra]

bro it couldn't kill mobs IN THE COAST

[stoic horizon]

insane 10d comfy cyclone starter budget rmt site link in description

[tranquil umbra]

[crisp obsidian]

peuget is correct here

[icy zinc]

just buy from others, NOOBSHIT

[crisp obsidian]

if he didn't advertise it as ssf leagstarter

[icy zinc]

its like the blade vortex hierophant

where do you get bv? templar doesnt get it

[split maple]

still trading before 4 voids is giga cringe

[icy zinc]

[split maple]

just slows you

[normal hedge]

4 voidstones nah

[fossil mural]

lies

[crisp obsidian]

I'll still be faster than 99% of the players

[tranquil umbra]

I am getting my res capped

[crisp obsidian]

no worries to waste 5 seconds

[icy zinc]

not listing unique for 5c sales at act 6

[opal ingot]

id rather die than beg at town for someone to trade me a gem

[crisp obsidian]

whose telling you to beg at town

[zinc frost]

I'm not sure in what channel I need to ask this question but I just started poe today and I wanna hear if someone can help me with a ranger build

[icy zinc]

doesnt stop from experienced hobos in new york

[crisp obsidian]

#1019646743299764255

#1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

#1┃endgame-help

[fossil mural]

beg here as well

[icy zinc]

#2┃looking-for-group

[fossil mural]

its not against the rules if you frame it as a joke

as slepa would say

[native abyss]

need to borrow megabloos

[tawdry olive]

would be really funny if someone dropped a mirror for me, haha

[fossil mural]

UwU

[crisp obsidian]

about to modmail you all

[tawdry olive]

1984...

[fossil mural]

jiji the modmailman

[icy zinc]

dont go to school tomorrow

[native abyss]

i write mod mails with feather and ink

[crisp obsidian]

don't come to general chat tomorrow

[tranquil umbra]

can I borrow somebody's spine chat it's for science

[crisp obsidian]

I'll be modmailing everyone

[icy zinc]

i will... i will... displace my wisdom and portal scroll...

[normal hedge]

modmail this

[icy zinc]

rogpop

[whole bluff]

what you gonna do with it?

[tranquil umbra]

that's none of your business

[icy zinc]

CONFIDENTIAL

[whole bluff]

fair enough here you go *hands over spinal cord*

[icy zinc]

the peoples talkativetri yap has made my algo catch this https://youtu.be/4MUGi2I8ZcY

well done peeps

[tawdry olive]

huh...

[tranquil umbra]

why is the channel name in Japanese

[tawdry olive]

the japanese doesn't make sense so i assume it's just for aesthetics?

[spice pecan]

is that jerma

[tranquil umbra]

I am not joking when I say jonathan made me start doing it like this as well

[icy zinc]

the forbidden druid cosplay

[fossil mural]

NINETY fucking minutes?

christ have youtubers just stopped writing scripts

at all

we even invented ai

[normal hedge]

why hes about to cosplay vegeta

[opal ingot]

teen

[fossil mural]

oh ffs

[icy zinc]

[fossil mural]

still

I put the video at 1.5x

and it still feels like its at 0.9x

[finite quail]

it looks like it spells trap lord

[icy zinc]

to simulate 19 out of 90 you'd have to put on x4.7368~

just so you know

[finite quail]

like the letters resemble those words

[icy zinc]

btw the accelerate speed will be paywalled soon

in youtube

[opal ingot]

like the entirety of it?

[finite quail]

3x speed already is

[icy zinc]

OH NO 1.25

[opal ingot]

i think it's paywalled at 3x

[icy zinc]

oh rip 3x

[normal hedge]

i'm sure you can bypass that with an extension

[finite quail]

Yep

[opal ingot]

only a matter of time until google nukes all the extensions

[finite quail]

Not paying YouTube a fucking dime for anything and not watching their ads either

[tight plinth]

does tri even play poe?

[finite quail]

Then I'll move to mozilla

[fossil mural]

bro immediately starts lying

[normal hedge]

then we'll use bilibili instead

[fossil mural]

from the get go

yea trap lord alright

[finite quail]

the thumbnail didn't inspire much confidence

[fossil mural]

unironically soon to be less censored and controlled than yt

[finite quail]

dailymotion

[crisp obsidian]

some european alternative will raise to the top fsfs

[normal hedge]

no

fuck europe

[crisp obsidian]

xdd

[tranquil umbra]

none of the shit I want will be there so

[fossil mural]

everyone will move trust

[tranquil umbra]

clueless

that's what they said for twitter with artists

[frigid wedge]

?

what we doin

[crisp obsidian]

offtopiccin

cause no one is modmailing

[tight plinth]

HOLY

[spice pecan]

GET THE FUCK DOWN

[opal ingot]

grok can you summarize for me

[normal hedge]

essaying

[tranquil umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/help-gif-9858523764566581784

[normal hedge]

the 2nd line is very accurate

[tawdry olive]

i am happy for you, or sorry that it happened, good day 👍

[frigid wedge]

i aint readin allat

[crisp obsidian]

Tri isn’t dividing the community — elitist gatekeeping is. Saying someone “isn’t qualified” to ask questions because they’re not a PoE1 veteran or hardcore min-maxer is exactly the kind of mindset that pushes people away. You don’t need to spreadsheet every mechanic to have a valid voice, especially in a new game.

This is a dev interview, not an interrogation. Not every question has to be hyper-technical or designed to “catch” the devs. Different parts of the community care about different things, and that’s fine.

You can’t claim to want all voices heard while dismissing anyone who isn’t “pro enough.” PoE2 isn’t owned by veterans. More perspectives ≠ division. Gatekeeping does.

[normal hedge]

bring ziz back

[tranquil umbra]

@ gork can you make me a kinetic black build pls

[native abyss]

kinetic black

[cosmic raptor]

Kinetic black

[tranquil umbra]

?

did I stutter.

[finite quail]

DUDE JUST GOT STRAIGHT UP MURDERED

[opal ingot]

[crisp obsidian]

https://pastebin.com/ve2TUESD

[cosmic raptor]

Xd

That's kinetic blast not kinetic black

[normal hedge]

average fubgun pob

[opal ingot]

okay ill give it you straight this time, no fluff, no errors, and fully revised - just like what you asked for

[crisp obsidian]

noob

[opal ingot]

idk how to do em dashes

[fossil mural]

smh old man not keeping up with the memes

[cosmic raptor]

I haven't been in this junk server in a while

[fossil mural]

its the pob I told you about

[crisp obsidian]

actually you have been here for almost a year

[cosmic raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272339443910447196/1338390553116540989/hammercar.gif

[fossil mural]

the one with the unused cluster

[tawdry olive]

― i just switch to the japanese keyboard and type this dash when i need to meme it

[native abyss]

delete cats

[tawdry olive]

i have no idea if it's the same

[cosmic raptor]

Doesn't mean i open the server

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-excuse-me-what-well-excuse-me-what-the-helly-you-nasty-gif-13472785094487061193

[crisp obsidian]

best part tho

[opal ingot]

looks good enough

huge

[normal hedge]

bring back helm enchants

[icy zinc]

[split palm]

too much yap for me to read ngl

[cosmic raptor]

Bring black

[tawdry olive]

3.28 black gems confirmed

[spare ore]

im scared

[cosmic raptor]

[normal hedge]

cannot wait to play poisonous black of bouncing

[icy zinc]

Johnatan

Jonathan or John

whhhhich one

[cosmic raptor]

Coc fross but black

[fossil mural]

black coc fross

[native abyss]

righteous black fire

[fossil mural]

🫦

[cosmic raptor]

Righteous coc fire

[fossil mural]

wheres black

[cosmic raptor]

In 3.28

[fossil mural]

thats mirage

and they are more like

tan

[tawdry olive]

Wait this one actually sounds kinda cool

[normal hedge]

only available in poe2

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-sharingan-activate-gif-14793397

[split palm]

that is an actual ai summary

[opal ingot]

now the question is

did he use chatgpt or grok

[split palm]

I'd say chatgpt

due to the long dash

[fossil mural]

I think he 100% pretends to use ai

but just does it himself

[spice pecan]

if you fire projectiles off this ledge, they go straight down, works on both sides all the way to the top of the stairs

[split palm]

long dash is AI like 90% of time nowadays

[spice pecan]

[fossil mural]

thats how he gets you

[opal ingot]

yeah

[split palm]

there is a dot at the end

[opal ingot]

chatgpt constantly uses emdashes

so 2 years from now when we get cool paragraphs with no emdashes

[crisp obsidian]

Nowaeee no way

[opal ingot]

youll never know

[fossil mural]

he knows you know

[crisp obsidian]

I summarized it myself

[split palm]

@gork fact check this

[opal ingot]

that's how ai gets us in the future

[split palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-warriors-gif-17866764483270738307

[fossil mural]

badass kittens hitting the shields

pog

[split palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-centurion-centurion-cat-cat-army-cat-centurion-army-jovial-merriment-gif-7666711929833421464