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dusty mesa
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I don't like wintertide because its a brand

dry tree
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Replica allelopathy here I come

karmic gust
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just shitty sustain self cast

dusty mesa
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unfortunately

onyx adder
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Yes

cobalt blade
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i just dont find bows /bow skills fun since no move skills

surreal musk
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imo mines just play like a better self cast cause u dont have to aim

dry tree
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Wintertide is fine the moment you get the brand mastery for it to hop

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It just feels wack before then

onyx adder
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I like pathfinder bow since u have turbo quicksilver from very early

dusty mesa
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also, I hate that most chaos dot builds use multiple skills

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I just want to use one lmao

dry tree
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All dot builds do

dusty mesa
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which is so unoptimal

cobalt blade
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yea with mageblood or PF its fine but you could also just play an actual build at that point

surreal musk
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i enjoy my 3x dot skill + dual curse + frost bomb spam

dry tree
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That's because they have bad dps and high uptime you can just only use one and suck more if you really want

onyx adder
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Well im allowed to do that on pf at hour 3

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Which is a plus

dusty mesa
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frost bomb of instability is a skill I want to make use of

spice pecan
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i think that's another woke cascade spell

dry tree
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Yeah but then you have to macro your health potion

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I mean allegedly

karmic gust
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instability is like one of the worst cascadeable skills pretty sure

junior otter
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How good is hit caustic arrow

onyx adder
karmic gust
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last time i was looking at them

onyx adder
dusty mesa
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it looks like it could be fun if it actually detonated faster lol

onyx adder
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Damage is fine

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Its melee bow so

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Enjoy ig

karmic gust
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you can play it on ballista and its fine mostly

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if you dont mind the clear and thebad clear

onyx adder
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Clear so bad u said it twice

dusty mesa
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death oath is fine right?

karmic gust
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lmao

dry tree
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DO is awful

dusty mesa
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rip

spice pecan
karmic gust
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its 7am and i did not had my coffee yet smh

dry tree
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It's somehow worse than rf despite being buffed massively

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And rf is awful

hard cliff
spice pecan
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i mean you get to use a shield now with the decay + storm burst tech

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so it has that going for it

split maple
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death oath got that ring now going on for it rite?

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still looks ass tho

dry tree
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No

cobalt blade
dusty mesa
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yea at this point Im playing a bow/wand skill

onyx adder
karmic gust
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the ring makes it better

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it do not makes it good

dusty mesa
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or I could poison spark

cobalt blade
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and a bow build doesnt have the cast speed for wintry blast

hard cliff
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death oath is almost playable if you also use a six link vaal caustic Arrow

dry tree
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You need more than that ring and 3 large clusters to fix DO

karmic gust
hard cliff
cobalt blade
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huh

split maple
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you need to invest 1 support into leap slam to feel good pira

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one support

surreal musk
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do = rf but u lose ur body armour slot

cobalt blade
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your investment comes from playing an attack build that has attack speed

hard cliff
cobalt blade
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so like everything other than slams

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and fuck slams

onyx adder
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Leap slam is always fine tbh

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Even early

split maple
cobalt blade
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^

dry tree
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Leap slam is only bad on low attack speed if spammed

split maple
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if you want to use it to move around like frostblink of wintry

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you still need support

karmic gust
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i would def rather leap slam than shield charge every time :d

split maple
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at least faster casting, most cases also spell echo

onyx adder
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The secret to leap slam is it is frostblink

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It has a cd

cobalt blade
hard cliff
spice pecan
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tbh

split maple
onyx adder
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But unlike frostblink u can scale cdr by getting attack speed

cobalt blade
surreal musk
hard cliff
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min

cobalt blade
dry tree
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I mean flame dash does the same thing

split maple
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well see pira thats where your div/h dies

karmic gust
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just not many builds have that

split maple
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its not economy issue its minutes per maps issue

onyx adder
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Yea 100%

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Before ur moveskills have levels and quality they can generally eat some number of penises

surreal musk
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any kraitlyn helpers

hard cliff
cobalt blade
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if your just boots/inconsistent flask uptime id rather than move skills tbh

onyx adder
tawdry olive
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tbh most movement skills in POE can feel kinda awkward because of 2 reasons (that are justified of course):

  1. There is very strict collision, and it halts all your momentum
  2. there is a bit of inconsistency with the blink skills, some walls and gaps you can blink over, some cant
onyx adder
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I would also rather have moveskills than literal nothing templarLul

dry tree
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Simply glue flasks to your boots so they automatically drink on each step

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I don't see the issue

onyx adder
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Now i want to leaguestart pf

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Ngl

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That shit is gas

dry tree
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I want patch notes that make me go "holy shit I'm starting <insert bad skill here>"

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Daniel Ricciardo spotted

cobalt blade
split maple
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you dont need patch notes for that Andy

dry tree
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I need patch notes to do it without feeling like I'm actively self harming

dusty mesa
dry tree
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With patch notes I can claim it's the hype and not a lack of self worth

onyx adder
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Spark is by no means the worst selfcast skill to start if thats ur plan

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Its merely bad at start

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Where the tiers are like

grizzled lily
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just league start heist

dusty mesa
onyx adder
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Earthshatter, great, good, mediocre, bad, unplayable, fireball

cobalt blade
dusty mesa
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not because its good rn Sadge

split maple
dry tree
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I mean I still stand by edc being very fun to start into yellows

split maple
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that gap is wide

dry tree
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Edc just... When it hits level 20 you're looking everywhere for more damage, and it doesn't exist

dusty mesa
dry tree
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So you suffer and pivot

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It's still very fun to start

hard cliff
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we need glacial hammer buffs

karmic gust
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getting poe2 contagion in poe1 would be pretty nice ngl i think it spreading other chaos dot stuff is more interesting

dusty mesa
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I do keep forgetting ice crash exists

karmic gust
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than it just being ED skill

dusty mesa
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and I do keep wanting to play it

karmic gust
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thats boring as shit

stoic horizon
hard cliff
hard cliff
dry tree
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Dex stack ice crash log in

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Minmaxed in like 23 minutes

dusty mesa
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honestly if spell totems get a buff I wouldn't mind that either

stoic horizon
dry tree
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Spell totems need more than "a buff" lul

cobalt blade
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around then yeah its a bit above average

hard cliff
dusty mesa
cobalt blade
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you just need alot of points to fit in your duration/proj speed/pierce and id prolly force it on an inquis so looota pathing kek

dusty mesa
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that's why we cope on patch notes this league

stoic horizon
dry tree
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At least stay within the realm of possibilities

split maple
dusty mesa
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I've already asked for occy buff, chaos dot buff, spell buff, spell totem buffs

nimble bay
dusty mesa
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I've reached as far as I can

cobalt blade
hard cliff
stoic horizon
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ask for conversion trap buffs

hard cliff
spice pecan
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siphoning trap playable when

stoic horizon
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at least make the dot stack

dark sequoia
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I want transfigured desecrate that just makes desecrated ground and actually does damage

cobalt blade
livid quarry
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would someone be kind enough to share league start plan i can copy

livid quarry
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i have never locked in

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oh wait no patch notes

karmic gust
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or the belt i guess

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whats the belt name

livid quarry
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wfpn?

stoic horizon
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siegebreaker

karmic gust
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but having dot corpse skill could be cute i guess

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so you can actually link shit to it

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but it would be either broken or useless

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so 🤷‍♂️

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hard to balance

livid quarry
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i dont get how ppl play 16 hrs on league start but i think it would be nice to

surreal musk
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i miss dd ignite 😭

onyx adder
dusty mesa
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I wonder if I could make KR ballistas do damage

karmic gust
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yea dd ignite is exactly why it would be hard to balance

onyx adder
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Let me introduce u to AUKUNAS WILL SIEGEBREAKER

hard cliff
# livid quarry would someone be kind enough to share league start plan i can copy

Path of exile 2.5 Breach league is about to go live, and here are some suggestions for strong starters with some info. There's a lot of other good builds too like pizza totems but I haven't tried everything.

CoC Discharge Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwogkq7Y9eE
Most up to date character: ZizaranMaybeHundred
Forum Guide: poeurl.com/PQ...

▶ Play video
livid quarry
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too old

karmic gust
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pretty much

stoic horizon
cobalt blade
ocean field
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why do I only have 1 alva in my map??

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isn't there supposed to be multiple

stoic horizon
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maybe cuz you had 1 run left till temple

ocean field
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nope

ocean field
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yeah

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I think I did like 2 last map

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and 1 before

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oof

cobalt blade
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or this one as ignite i didnt actually know that one existed kek

hard cliff
spice pecan
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leaguestarting bv is kind of pain

ocean field
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ok how to get into the temple

split maple
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click alva in hideout

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take temple chronicle

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throw it away

ocean field
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aiyoo

split maple
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open new map

ocean field
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so buff is over ahh

hard cliff
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@ocean field

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what is the origin of the term glaze

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I get the meaning

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but what's it referring to

spice pecan
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pretty old phrase iirc

hard cliff
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Just the last year

livid quarry
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is shield throw a cheap build

shrewd rock
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Soft launch

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And hard launch

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These days

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For the kids

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Or is that also already outdated

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LOL

coral summit
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hmmmge

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shit, I'm trying to figure out how to drop determination to actually make some aura room while keeping similar amounts of armor but idt it's replaceable for this build

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unluggy.

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defensive auras too op.

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mageblood would make up a decent amount of the armour gap but losing the phys dr+crit reduction mods on watcher's eye sucks too much

shrewd rock
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Dont link me pob

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Just use english

coral summit
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fourth vow divine flesh with zerker defiance for recovery after hits

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with autoexertion and purity of lightning+font of thunder to only take lightning/chaos damage

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and phys

ocean field
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at least that is what I think

coral summit
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scales life with grey wind as bis 1h

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which also makes both 15% life recovery on warcry and defiance % based stuff better

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needs way, way too many passive points

tight plinth
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is there a difference between ff you get from normal eater/exarch vs uber?

shrewd rock
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Do you only have armor as your pdr

coral summit
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4 endurance charges perma uptime, ~60k armour without mageblood if flask is up

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and determination watcher's eye for another +8

tight plinth
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does the uber ones have lke higher chance to get the good nodess or some shit?

coral summit
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but both chest and shield are uniques, so they can't fit in unconditional pdr

dapper parrot
coral summit
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and helmet is also unique

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also cant fit flesh/stone or arctic armour

shrewd rock
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Yeah i dont think its happening lol

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You're getting too much of it from det

tawdry olive
# tight plinth is there a difference between ff you get from normal eater/exarch vs uber?

yea you get FF combos for things like this
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Indomitable_Resolve

Indomitable Resolve is a hidden notable Ascendancy passive skill for the Marauder.
It is not found on any current Ascendancy Tree and can only be allocated by socketing matching variants of Forbidden FleshForbidden FleshCobalt JewelLimited to: 1Requires Class: <Character Class>Allocates <random Ascendancy Notable> if you have the matching modifi...

coral summit
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this is i think the longest i've spent on any one pob

dapper parrot
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sounds like ur trying to do too much

coral summit
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I mean no, it's a pretty complete pob and from testing the defense seems absolutely cracked already

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i'm just trying to figure out if there's wiggle room to pushit further by making room for other stuff

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and I don't think there is lol

dapper parrot
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then sounds like ur good

coral summit
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there is the weird feeling of the defense shell being almost wasted on basically a roided up earthshatter though

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but i'm unsure of how one would actually make it work with better skill archetypes for pushing further content without seeing what the new league has to offer yet

shrewd rock
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I mean ngl

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It sounds overinvested

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You dont nearly need that much shit

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To have decent defenses

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Which means you can swap out some slots

dapper parrot
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yea i mean i think if ur not doing hardcore you kinda want to just kill things faster

tawdry olive
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i get it though, if im not a walking tank im not satisfied

shrewd rock
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To make other stuff work

hard cliff
coral summit
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it's basically delve tier defense but not sure how to push it past the ~300mil dps mark

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without starting to take out things that hold the entire build together lol

hard cliff
coral summit
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i wouldn't call it outright delveproof cuz iirc delve still has -max res nodes

hard cliff
coral summit
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but it has enough armour and less dmg taken mods that it kinda doesn't care about anything except the biggest of t17 phys as extra map mods or like 40% pen

hard cliff
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serous question

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giga blight?

onyx adder
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Valdos

dapper parrot
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50k delve

coral summit
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I think if I wanted to push it past 2k delve it'd need to start pushing slightly bigger numbers

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mind you the highest i've ever been is like 1.5k and that still worked on a 200mil build but iirc that's about when rare monsters start getting huge

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i think the problem is i'm comparing it to actual stacker builds and it is definitely not one

dapper parrot
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yea thats not that deep

coral summit
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it gets fucked by a decent number of map mods

dapper parrot
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i think

coral summit
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(well, t17 ones.)

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it's really, really hard to fully t17-proof a build with current mod pool

grave vine
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3 second mod kek

onyx adder
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Thats easy to proof against tho

coral summit
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just going thru the list I still can't do reflect cuz I have no way of deleting the tiny bit of phys damage on weapon, max res for obv reasons, i could action speed proof it by swapping FF or yoinking balance of terror temp chains but they're clunky for just that, charge theft/cooldown recovery rate cause problems

onyx adder
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It fucks everyone equally but doesnt make any build unplayable

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So u just make ur build bigger and thats how u beat it

coral summit
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less armour/defenses are still playable vs ele damage but self damage starts being a problem

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(well, reflect is magebloodable)

grave vine
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Its just a bad mod idc

dapper parrot
grave vine
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Should not be in the game

coral summit
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the remove life on hit one is absolutely ass tho

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cuz i have no avoidance

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is it supposed to be remove 5% of max life on hit or current life

dapper parrot
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does defiance not counterbalance that

onyx adder
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The remove life on hit one is ignorable tbh

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Its only a real problem for minions

coral summit
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it probably helps but I have no idea how that mod actually works

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if it removes 5% of maximum, it's vulnerable to getting shotgunned by packs on engagement

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if it's current then it's probably fine

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i just remember playing a trickster ages ago and that mod just straight up deleted it when it had the little shavronne lightning constructs as a mob type

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in necropolis league

dapper parrot
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as i understand it, it only really fucks builds with little recovery and avoidance with huge life/es pool

onyx adder
dapper parrot
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i dont notice it on my builds

coral summit
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hm

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well maybe then as long as it doesnt get shotgunned by the very first pack

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it has enough time to build like 3-4 stacks then it's fine

onyx adder
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Its an irrelevant mod unless u have an AG

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Trust

spice pecan
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has pestilent strike ever been a "meta" skill

onyx adder
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No

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Its playable fwiw

spice pecan
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i think about this skill from time to time and i get sad because it's sad

coral summit
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it's uh

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reading on the description basically poison infernal blow?

dapper parrot
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wat the frick is pestilent strike

coral summit
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except it spreads dot

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instead of on-hit kaboom

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yeah theres better ways to get clear and the st doesnt seem impressive

dusty mesa
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I need to go to sleep

coral summit
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also mamba pathfinder is in the game

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sooo

spice pecan
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it's like, worse mamba in every way i can think of

dusty mesa
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I'm over here pob'n something I have no business pob'n

coral summit
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that has been me for the past 48 hours

dapper parrot
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xdd

dusty mesa
dapper parrot
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pobin is fun

coral summit
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i've been terrorizing this channel

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ever since

dusty mesa
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this is the base of what I have and why would I even want to barrage KR

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that's so boring

coral summit
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isn't barrage like

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a genuinely awful support

dapper parrot
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i dont believe it works

dusty mesa
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not for damage

dusty mesa
coral summit
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also i'm not even sure how it would interact with kinetic rain

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putting it on ballista totems is funny as shit though

spice pecan
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for single target

dapper parrot
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yea i really wanted it to be good

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i tried it with mines tho

coral summit
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honestly the thing that bugs me about kinetic rain having played it on leaguestart as elementalist

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kinetic rain of impact*

hard cliff
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is kboc totems good?

coral summit
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is that it's not bad but it feels like the only hole it patches is sorta early single target

hard cliff
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maybe just kb

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ballista tbh

coral summit
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otherwise it feels like you should just be playing kinetic blast

proud pebble
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like if kinetic rain of impact had 100% overlap it would be completely balanced.

coral summit
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to get through the rest of the map four times faster and spend maybe half again as long on the boss

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for still net higher efficiency

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kinetic blast/kboc are just way too op tbh

dapper parrot
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yea that skill did not need to get fricken taken out back

coral summit
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i think even if kinetic rain did infinity damage it'd still just be mechanically inferior

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than kb

dapper parrot
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100

coral summit
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people would still just use kb for 99% of stuff and gemswap to kr for bossing

dapper parrot
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clear is so bad

coral summit
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It's a very visually pleasing skill, mind you

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but like.

proud pebble
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eh i think its fine

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like it can be worse and scale worse

coral summit
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wait 1-2 seconds for it to blow stuff up or point in the general direction of a screen with KB and watch it and three generations of their family explode

dusty mesa
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I change this to a bow skill and I get like 10x damage

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that's probably over exaggerating

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but still

coral summit
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it's like trying to use regular earthquake for clear vs just playing ground slam of whateverthefk the trans version is

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on slayer

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sure the radius on the aftershock is huge but by the time that goes off the ground slammer is already 2 screens away

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cuz he cleared that screen and the next one

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the pet skill that I wish was playable is lacerate of butchering

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but that 40% base attack speed

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is literally unplayable dogshit

hard cliff
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that's insane

coral summit
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Like, the base aoe and damage effectiveness is wild

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629% twice per cast, and has a base aoe of like 7m forward

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but 40% speed.

dapper parrot
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try it on acc stacker?

coral summit
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it also forces you into 2h

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so you cant dual wield or use shield

dapper parrot
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oh

coral summit
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i think the fastest i managed to get it on a zerker with both multistrike and giga rage stacking was like

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4aps

dapper parrot
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you could prob get like 7 on str acc stack juh

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jug

coral summit
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it's basically half the damage of eviscerate with slightly smaller aoe and no condition to use but the tradeoff is being locked to 2h+the slowest attack speed in the game by a country mile

ocean field
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I was dying 3 times in alva and was confused I was dying cause build is supposed to be immortal then realized

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🙁

dapper parrot
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xdd

coral summit
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oof lmao

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yeah i do not like how you have to pob your exact cluster jewel

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to figure out if the stupid thing is where you want it before you buy it

spice pecan
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i don't understand

coral summit
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just let us pick where the notables are

spice pecan
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did you like not take the notable in the back or something

coral summit
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i think he thought it was going to be one of the two front ones

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and prolly didnt check pob to make sure

ocean field
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from meglo

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to large cluster jewel

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for unspeakable gifts

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forgot to take it back

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rip

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this does not affect the evolving shrine right

cobalt blade
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it does not

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shrines arent auras

dapper parrot
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uh no

ocean field
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ok

hard cliff
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clusters suck

tight plinth
hard cliff
spice pecan
ocean field
stoic horizon
lucid gale
coral summit
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evolving shrine is a shrine buff, not an aura

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and afaik there is no source of reduced shrine buff effect in the game.

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the only thing iirc? that affects it is the t17 map mod that has buffs expire faster on you

livid quarry
dapper parrot
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just buff expire faster

coral summit
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that mod is what i like to call the no fun allowed mod

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because i am a serial warcry buff abuser :V

dapper parrot
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yea im often an arcane cloak enjoyer

hard cliff
dapper parrot
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xdd

coral summit
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honestly if we had the keyboard space and easier ways to make warcry buffs last like 15-20 seconds

hard cliff
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arcane Cloak is really strong in the right build

coral summit
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i would absolutely manual cast every warcry

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also if we could get exerts to more than just +1 on tree without having to use one of the worst 2h basetypes known to mankind

hard cliff
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yeah choosing war cry and banners is a button issue not a build one

coral summit
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impact force propagator my beloved, impact force propagator my hated

spice pecan
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or crushing force magnifier

coral summit
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the implicit is the entire reason to pick it, the base stats on it are atrocious

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third slowest base type in 2h maces and the lowest base phys out of all 4 of the higher level bases (not including karui maul)

short prairie
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Internet speed so slow in China

coral summit
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the implicit is insane when you can use it but you're locked to a 2h base that barely has the dignity of being better otherwise than a friggin' reaver axe

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and at least the 1h lets you use a shield

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which is like one of the strongest item slots on your character.

hard cliff
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even a bit of block is VALUE

coral summit
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its not even just the block its the other stats

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a rare shield on an armour char is like, max res/crit reduction/big chunk of life on top of that block

shrewd rock
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Shields op

coral summit
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on es stackers it's up to nearly 500 base ES+int+insert veiled mod here and one more

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which with their insane inc es is like usually 4-5k ES

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and then theres a bunch of unique shields that entirely make characters

coral summit
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i'm using probably one of the least used unique shields in this game, font of thunder, and it straight up lets me not have to scale cold or fire res or use sublime vision

coral summit
hard cliff
coral summit
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i'm genuinely afraid of some streamer catching on to font of thunder+grey wind existing because previously the issue for damage scaling was that rare 1h axes are kind of dogshit

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for scaling slam damage

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just cuz you want big one-hit dmg

hard cliff
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very powerful

karmic gust
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i dont think font of thunder is taht unpopular

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there were bunch of builds with it past few leagues

coral summit
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its like a 3c unique the entire way thru

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im not sure if that means it's outright unpopular or if it's just really common

spice pecan
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font of thunder is that one unique that i pick up and it like, randomly always sells

surreal musk
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idk i look at the # on grey wind then look at the # on EE and cant see how grey wind is good

coral summit
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it's 12% flat instead of up to 15% max

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no variance, and even though life is a bit harder to stack

leaden quiver
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Font of thunder is cool because you get to do purity of lightning + will of esh since keepers

karmic gust
leaden quiver
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And its cool

coral summit
#

it also lends itself to both hit or dot based stuff

karmic gust
#

but pathfinders use it

hard cliff
coral summit
#

you dont

karmic gust
#

i think jung had like 2 or 3 builds with it or something

hard cliff
coral summit
#

well you could use cruelty support

stoic horizon
#

ignite slams login

surreal musk
#

ignite EE ele is just infinite better

coral summit
#

i think both lance and steelmage got pretty decent results out of it in keepers league

hard cliff
surreal musk
#

huh

hard cliff
#

lol wrong link

coral summit
#

brrrrrrother

hard cliff
#

I'm trying to make that work

#

but the main skill is bugged or not I can't get a clear answer

coral summit
#

i think you can get +1 endurance on a shield

#

so you would definitely do grey wind

#

the problem with not running elementalist is that you have to scale ignite chance which is a waste of passive points

hard cliff
#

so you gotta sit their and whack off to get max rage for peak ignite or can you use a war cry

coral summit
#

the problem with running elementalist is that you start on the top side of the tree and will be pathing most of the way down.

stoic horizon
#

just do elementalist slams

coral summit
#

Autoexertion can let you generate 2 rage per warcry

#

with minimum 10 power

#

but you need to do funny stuff for that

hard cliff
coral summit
#

staggering autoexert gem quality

leaden quiver
#

good build, probably unnerfed after keepers

hard cliff
ocean field
#

This means I still have 4 incursions left right

#

as in 4 temples per map

#

if I don't do this

coral summit
#

77 lightning res and uncapped

#

is this pob just wrong when it's fetched from ninja

leaden quiver
#

defo something wrong i saw vids of it killing feared

#

maybe alira quest?

coral summit
#

oooh

#

that'd do it

#

wait no it's 97 and set to kill all

#

it was correct on fetch

#

the rings arent qualitied at all tho

#

quality'd

#

w/e

leaden quiver
#

anyway

#

its good

#

since the rings give you +4% max res

stoic horizon
coral summit
leaden quiver
#

purity of lightning scaled by them also gets you to like 88% easily

coral summit
#

hes getting -60 from lightning coil is whats tanking the shit out of his lightning res even with giga purity of lightning

#

and getting owned by stat/accuracy reqs on his rares

#

its not a hard fix tho

#

swapping out that one jewel with poison chance for lightning res fixes it

#

the dmg looks really good for the budget, im just fussy about the total life+max hits

#

obv it's made it to 97 but i cant imagine playing a life build without like 5.5k life anymore

#

and a bunch of extra stuff

leaden quiver
#

well, its also high block

#

spell supp

coral summit
#

it is, but he still gets like

#

twoshot even by regular shaper balls if his block screws up

#

if it's not suppressed*

#

forgot pob doesnt calculate suppression unless it's 100%

oak axle
#

i honestly kind of wish when poe made game trailers they made sense, like there was zero gameplay.... 2/10 effort really

coral summit
#

ok the numbers with good suppression make more sense

#

honestly i almost feel like the intended way of using the unique breach rings is eternal blessing or sublime vision with how much reservation penalty they add, but he does still manage to fit two auras plus a flat cost one

#

it bringing back blasphemy auras is really funny though

#

since it doesn't exclude curse auras

leaden quiver
#

Pride, Determination, Flesh and Stone, Vulnerability Blasphemy + War banner

#

lmao

coral summit
#

oml it works on war banner

#

its too bad the chaos one exists and literally only works on despair+envy

#

and envy is locked to exactly two(2) unique items

#

why even is envy locked to unique items

#

it's like... anger for chaos damage, and that seems very unimpressive

leaden quiver
#

anyway will of uul netol is busted

#

can play spells or attacks with it tbh

coral summit
#

if i did not have to go to bed i would try to see if like

#

spell impale reap worked with that

#

just for shits and giggles

leaden quiver
#

hopefully scavenger is coming

#

good spot for inc phys stuff

ocean field
#

gng is map tab usefull

spice pecan
#

yes

tranquil sedge
#

yes.

ocean field
#

espically if you run like 1 map ie. jungle valley

tight plinth
#

second best tab

tranquil sedge
steel light
#

50m shipment, 0 shard ScuffGiveUp

ocean field
tranquil sedge
#

its useful because it holds up to 72 of every single map, at every single tier

ocean field
#

yeah but when you get to t16 do you care about lower tiers?

tranquil sedge
#

even if you only run a few t16 layouts, it still holds 72 each of the 4 shaper guardian, 4 elder guardian, 4 conqueror, 5 t17 and valdo puzzle box maps.

dark sequoia
#

What's stronger ignite, eviscerate or maw of mischief

tight plinth
#

youll understand once you get one

#

the map tab i mean

tranquil sedge
#

and its not like just coz you run a few t16 layouts

#

that other layouts don't drop

#

you can still loot them, hoard a full tab, then bulk sell them

#

it makes deposting your loot faster and cleaner after each map.

surreal musk
#

i cannot imagine playing this game without a map tab holy

tranquil sedge
#

in short - buy the tab if you don't have it and you have money to spend

surreal musk
#

even just doing atlas completion

frigid wedge
#

lmao

tranquil sedge
#

yeah. there's a reason we tell new players its currency + frag + map + merchant to start lol if they finish campaign and want to keep playing poe.

frigid wedge
#

i bring back my screenshot from yesterday

ocean field
#

btw I am planning to get essence as well

tranquil sedge
#

get essence if you farm essence a lot

#

otherwise skip it

ocean field
#

oh

surreal musk
#

essence is like lowest priority id reccomend to a trade player

junior otter
#

Essence is good, I actually think div stash is almost worse to have than not

dark sequoia
#

I've been playing since Breach and never bought a stash tab until Keepers, with the points I had from PoE2

junior otter
#

Because you just end up wasting time picking up trash cards to rot in your stash

#

Instead of actually filtering 99% of cards

cobalt blade
#

nigh Impossible to sell stuff there kek

tranquil sedge
#

imo, tab priority should be:

  1. currency + map + frag
  2. 1x merchant
  3. divination
  4. essence if you do essence
  5. (delve is nice to have, fossils do take up space, maybe consider that here)
  6. a set of 6 extra stash tabs, or a quad tab

then whatever you want after that

cobalt blade
#

alternatively a quad over 6

frigid wedge
#

me with my delve tab

#

and no essence or extra 6

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

okay true i suppose delve is useful as well
hmmmmmmm

#

where do i put that in the list

ocean field
cobalt blade
#

you kinda need to track shit like journalist

cobalt blade
ocean field
#

I bought a lot of the 6x stash tab XD

tranquil sedge
cobalt blade
#

eg blight if your doing those or deli/delve

#

mmm fair

tranquil sedge
#

deli is kinda dog tbh

#

blight is also dog if ur not wasting time looting shit oils

spice pecan
#

i just got one of all the special tabs

#

when i came back

tranquil sedge
surreal musk
#

i think all u need is map tab and ur good rest are unessecary just qol, unless u choose to farm that mechanic as your main thing

cobalt blade
#

blight is nice for quicker anoints imo

cobalt blade
#

ultis actually one id rank up high thinking about it

tranquil sedge
#

yea i have one of each tab except flash and gem

#

those seem useless

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

Gems useful if you do alot of maven

spice pecan
#

flask tab comes in handy when rerolling ngl

cobalt blade
#

just dumping all the gems in there price later

tranquil sedge
onyx adder
#

Gem is useful if ur doing content that gives u unusual gems

frigid wedge
#

the only reason i have delve tab is because I am far more prone to picking up fossils than I am to picking up essences

spice pecan
onyx adder
#

Right now thats basically maven and lab

spice pecan
#

after the twink flasks have run their course

tranquil sedge
cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

where u can place the flasks in a nice position to click

spice pecan
#

i mean yeah

cobalt blade
#

People do gcp recipe early on in heist

spice pecan
#

but i dont have many non-quad normal tabs left

#

so

cobalt blade
#

ontop of trarthus gems now

tranquil sedge
#

fair

onyx adder
#

If all ur doing is gcp then dump tabs are fine tbh

cobalt blade
#

feel like youd be cleaning it out too often but fair

#

maybe a quad

onyx adder
#

I hate delve tab it tilts me that theres only one crafting slot in it

frigid wedge
onyx adder
#

I just use a quad and put my crafting projects on the right side of it

#

Also its got no space to load up resonators

#

Which i mean who the fuck loads up one resonator at the time

tight plinth
#

🙌

cobalt blade
#

over doing batches in ur inv

#

fossils are so cursed in stash

onyx adder
#

Ive never had this error

heady cliff
cobalt blade
#

i encounter constantantly kek

frigid wedge
#

my issue with delve tab is that if i have multiple filled resonators of the same type they still have to be placed in a normal tab

heady cliff
#

rest of special tabs are mostly useless if you dont run them a lot

frigid wedge
#

like wtf is the point of the 2 big slots if not to stack a filled resonator

cobalt blade
heady cliff
#

if you dont farm/gamble stacked decks, you likely do not want div card tab

cobalt blade
#

no sane person would do it like that but yeah

heady cliff
#

if you mostly ignore essences, essence tab is served by 1/4 of normal tab

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

iwould kill for that for doing prime resonator crafts

frigid wedge
#

even just yk

cobalt blade
#

so much clicking

heady cliff
#

four fossil slots around delve crafting slot and a button to autofill selected fossils?

frigid wedge
#

let me fucking control click without needed to remove all unsocketed resonators from this realm

heady cliff
#

someone ping GGG pls

spice pecan
#

let me fucking remove fossils from resonators

heady cliff
#

that would be a colossal qol for delve tab

surreal musk
#

they could make an interface in delve tab where you put a resonator in one side and the fossils in the otheer and as long as you have the required fossils/resonator you just click a button between them and then click the item

spice pecan
#

so that i dont have to chuck random socketed resonators to rot in tabs

frigid wedge
#

like, i have to manually fill all of them and if theres A SINGLE different resonator it wont let us click multiple

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

yes but like

#

its dumb

cobalt blade
#

very

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
#

im swapping to an early sebk setup or im putting the build back in stash

cobalt blade
#

Average speed for double wand no shield charge kek

frigid wedge
#

i want my shield charge

#

but he has no attack speed anyway

#

so wtf is the point

#

attack maybe twice a second

cobalt blade
#

Ye you cant get too much because of indigon

#

Its fake dps and can lower it

#

kinda need faster attacks linked to shield

ocean field
#

@tranquil sedge after buying those 2 I will still have enough money to either buy a quad stash tab or a 6x stash tab which one would be better

frigid wedge
#

also meant to be aul setup

#

and im not getting aul bloodline

#

im using farrul bc aul is too much work

#

the build is meant for fuckin delve

cobalt blade
#

if you want i can look for one for you tmr i like delving

brazen vector
surreal musk
#

tell ur friend to craft a new chest

#

1k es twilight with that level of investment is questionable

frigid wedge
#

hes in turkey

cobalt blade
brazen vector
#

I have an aul

cobalt blade
#

worth dropping the hybrid inc for flat mana

frigid wedge
#

alesia

#

no

#

i believe its hybrid mana es flat

#

btw

#

instead of raw mana

#

which is ewwww

cobalt blade
#

ah makes sense

brazen vector
cobalt blade
#

worse than flat but ye fair

crisp obsidian
#

where teasers??

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

the only redeeming quality of this kboc is that it hasnt given me a migraine because the attack speed is so shit

cobalt blade
#

Had to buy celestial one for mine for that

#

also lags less

frigid wedge
#

yeahh

#

idk

#

i wanna play a wander

#

but like

#

an actual fast wander

cobalt blade
#

proper int stack wander?

#

non mana setup

frigid wedge
#

maybe?

#

str stacker is more interesting just bc of jugg as

#

tbh

#

shield charge go nyoom

crisp obsidian
cobalt blade
#

yeh thats another route if you dont mind playing life for sure

#

Prolly honestly more damage without much less tank kek

frigid wedge
crisp obsidian
#

it is a fast wander

cobalt blade
#

esp if you reach og sin levels

frigid wedge
#

jiji its inextricable fate

#

its not fast

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

Tbf its with the anoint

frigid wedge
#

just grab the foulborn jewel

cobalt blade
#

Oh yeah those jewels exist ontop of the one bloodline

#

For 50% convert

crisp obsidian
#

idk why you think it isn't xdd

frigid wedge
#

because its a poison build with inextricable fate?

surreal musk
#

what do u need convert for isnt all ur flat from alberon

#

unless u have synth implicit fire dmg per 10* wand

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

ur converting fire to chaos

#

bc no non chaos

#

for alber

surreal musk
#

what fire tho

cobalt blade
#

synth ofc

#

its so much damage

frigid wedge
crisp obsidian
#

cause it sounds like you didn't

#

xdd

cobalt blade
#

did you play it pre or post vinespike

frigid wedge
spice pecan
#

we are not playing inextricable fate + vinespike cordial in 2026

#

we have evolved beyond this shit

frigid wedge
crisp obsidian
#

sure what's the evolution

#

show me

spice pecan
#

literally anything else

#

beacon of madness

#

fucking anything lol

frigid wedge
#

the evolution is called just waiting till u can have osin

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

or lycia bloodline

#

with the foulborn

crisp obsidian
spice pecan
frigid wedge
#

not the thing that requires 4 hits to poison a white mob

spice pecan
#

just do that

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

thats for sure

cobalt blade
#

Those madness debuffs require so much investment to make then not feel ass

spice pecan
#

stack a bunch of reduced debuff duration

#

yeah but you dont have to hit a white mob 4 times to poison it

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

Ye

spice pecan
#

and there's enough sources of reduced debuff duration

frigid wedge
#

but also

tranquil sedge
#

you can buy a quad or just save ur money to buy another unique stash like delve or essence later

coins dont disappear from your account, ur not forced to spend them immediately

spice pecan
#

like temporal rift

frigid wedge
#

inex fate just feels like absolute dogshit

tight plinth
#

does it?

frigid wedge
#

beacon of madness at least gives pseudo prolif on top of all dmg can poison

spice pecan
#

yes it does

surreal musk
#

inex + vinespike is usable on things that do 50% phys so ur still able to clear without vines , like explosive trap

cobalt blade
#

Its fine if your playing something that hits alot awful if your not

surreal musk
#

but not being able to poison without 5 vines is meme

crisp obsidian
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

But its more of a bossing unique than mapping outside of tanky maps

surreal musk
#

3*

frigid wedge
#

literally deen kboc struggle to poison during clear with inex

crisp obsidian
#

also the boots apply atleast 1 grasp

frigid wedge
#

every second

crisp obsidian
#

.5

frigid wedge
#

not on hit

crisp obsidian
#

so you get atleast 1 grasp from the boots, then you just need two hits

#

and that is very easy to do

frigid wedge
#

doesn't that require standing still

crisp obsidian
#

when you attack almost 10 times a second

frigid wedge
#

to do literally anything

crisp obsidian
frigid wedge
#

have u considered just

#

not playing a dot wander, with a core unique that has anti qol

spice pecan
cobalt blade
#

Yknow

crisp obsidian
#

show me

spice pecan
#

bro

cobalt blade
#

You could just not convert damage on kboc and mana stack

spice pecan
cobalt blade
#

Its all phys to poison with anyway

frigid wedge
spice pecan
#

yeah that too

crisp obsidian
spice pecan
#

that one is showing a lot of the support characters too

final owl
#

so i logged into keepers. i hate remove only tabs D: genuinely first time i've ever had to deal with them given i've never logged into standard.

frigid wedge
crisp obsidian
#

holy yeah

#

nvm these builds look so good

#

thank you mythik

#

for showing me the way

#

XDXDXD

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

not showing u the way, just have unending hatred for inextricable fate

crisp obsidian
#

you aren't mythik

frigid wedge
#

those boots could be deleted and if be happier for it

crisp obsidian
#

I get that you personally hate the boots

#

you can hate em

spice pecan
#

you could also just... fuck the boots and use med clusters

crisp obsidian
#

?

spice pecan
#

brb my fish is drowning

crisp obsidian
#

ah now he claims he is baiting

brazen vector
cobalt blade
#

over inextricable

spice pecan
frigid wedge
#

but still dont like this one i have gear for rn

spice pecan
#

just saying that there has to be something out there that's better than them

#

but you do you

crisp obsidian
frigid wedge
#

id never gear this out of personal choice

crisp obsidian
#

just change the r word to bait

spice pecan
crisp obsidian
#

ez

spice pecan
#

right yeah

whole bluff
#

Imo, beacon of madness give great clear on questionable value. Vine poison can give boss dmg but unless you have poison prolif I don't see how your clear doesn't suffer

cobalt blade
elder marlin
#

how does overloaded circuit work? do u get extra random notable if u have all allocated node? do u get duplicated node at all?

#

or its just a double currency map crafting cost for 3 points

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
whole bluff
#

Build around only 100% poison chance after 4+ hits. That means explosions are just sad. So you have to rely on hit dmg, clearing skill itself, or prolif

cobalt blade
#

understandable but do note mfa will have the same speed problem

#

Maybe a tiny bit better with an as quiver

#

(since you cant abuse atk speed per dex chest mod like the whisperers)

pulsar dune
#

beacon is the one that gives you evil debuffs

spice pecan
#

beacon is separate

pulsar dune
#

but its all damage can poison is just there, no ramp needed

#

oh wait I see what V is saying, my bad

spice pecan
#

but I get called the r word for suggesting something else kek

crisp obsidian
#

no one called you the r word

spice pecan
crisp obsidian
spice pecan
#

you sure?

crisp obsidian
#

yes

#

I am sure

spice pecan
#

right

crisp obsidian
#

right

#

you can't read

#

I forgot

spice pecan
#

that's definitely what you meant

crisp obsidian
#

:D

#

yes

cobalt blade
#

you most definitely implied it with that image instead of editing it

crisp obsidian
#

it exactly is

spice pecan
#

and not just to not get timed out

crisp obsidian
#

LMAO

#

it's literally sent

spice pecan
#

you spoilered it too

crisp obsidian
#

the second after I sent the picture

#

yes

#

imagine going from "haha I was just baiting" to this

#

holy

spice pecan
#

when did I say i was baiting

crisp obsidian
#

ah so your fish is drowning huh

spice pecan
#

do you know what that means

#

it means literally anything else is better to do than x

#

watching paint dry, etc. is the same thing

crisp obsidian
#

oh it's used differently here then

#

shrug cultural differences then

wheat sinew
#

Oh the realization

fickle glen
#

Fight fight fight fight

wheat sinew
#

I gotta do the jewel farm every league

#

💀💀💀

crisp obsidian
#

which jewel farm

limpid stream
wheat sinew
#

Fuck man

#

Red nightmare foulborn

#

Or any foulborn

crisp obsidian
#

I mean

#

that would depend on them staying in the game

fickle glen
#

Who’s gonna draw blood first

wheat sinew
#

It was that bad, but they staying

cobalt blade
#

the fun of gsf/ssf

wheat sinew
#

Yeah but that one was actually draining

#

I got 4 t0s before the red nightmare

#

XD

cobalt blade
#

lmao incredible

fickle glen
#

I got my money on mythik

limpid stream
#

Same

#

But it seems they've scattered

wheat sinew
#

Took 2 weeks, ~352 jewels.... To get a single red nightmare with the correct foulborn

#

Lmfao

#

Got every other jewel on the market tho so happy days

crisp obsidian
cobalt blade
#

could you work with double foul or did it need to be single?

wheat sinew
#

No they are equal weight xD

crisp obsidian
#

guess I was lucky then lmao

fickle glen
#

Real men settle their arguments in the pvp arena

wheat sinew
#

I think I shared an image of the jewels just from the foulborn versions not being used

#

But basically it looked like nightmares are t1s

#

And foulborns are like t0.5 or some shi

wheat sinew
final owl
#

so what is the setup for double evo alva, 2 x evo, is anything else important?

wheat sinew
#

Limiting factor was I was eating our entire gsf supply of ancients xD

crisp obsidian
cobalt blade
#

and then last scarab isnt super important afaik prolly market dependant

crisp obsidian
#

someones gonna be eating all of X

cobalt blade
#

i think most were running theee rare monsters spawn beyond tho

#

but im sure like nem isnt that much worse if beyond destroys ur frames

final owl
#

I'm gonna assume nemeses isn't a bad choice

naive rivet
#

So we’ve got genies this patch right?

wheat sinew
#

Oh that's cool

wheat sinew
final owl
#

I had frames enough for evo alva in merceneries at least

ember crow
#

Viridi is Ahkeli

silent leaf
final owl
#

hmm'ok double evo didn't really work on that one D:

past mantle
#

Quite impressive.

tight plinth
#

i didnt know there were 60 episodes kek

#

ive only seen 3 i think

barren river
#

what do I do in this situation 😳

crisp obsidian
#

you wake up

#

and stop sleeping

past mantle
tight plinth
#

throw smoke mine on scaffold