1┃general

[silent leaf]

i was talking ultimatum gauntlet before

after i said the word CI

i said gauntlet the event

u oke?

😄

you read what i said?

[stoic horizon]

it uses boss buffs taken from gauntlet but its not a gauntlet itself

[royal stump]

WEll

[silent leaf]

ok

?

[split maple]

Blazar getting pissy about CI is so nostalgic

[royal stump]

whatever 😄 ill rather skip this conversation

[silent leaf]

how about my $80 ultimatum decoration

[royal stump]

how about ma full pandemonium set that worth more then that 😄

[silent leaf]

we are talking about nostalgia buddy

[royal stump]

i know

[silent leaf]

you aint even here in the lore

[royal stump]

u know what i missed on

there was a set back in some league

verry simillar to pandemonium

im soo sad that i missed on that one

((

[dark sequoia]

bring back the more es node behind CI

anointable

[royal stump]

ye i only arrived in settlers

[silent leaf]

https://pobb.in/YouRiYJM3DdK banners

[split maple]

is there some reasonable way to get attack mana leech with like no tree investment unique weapon etc etc while droping instant leech and it wont suck too much

[silent leaf]

viridian jewels

[dark sequoia]

jewels can roll phys mana leech

[silent leaf]

oh

no tree investment not sure

[split maple]

adorned abysal setup :/

[silent leaf]

not really i think

[split maple]

was hoping there is some tattoo but is life leech only

[royal stump]

i was forced to buy this set over the one that was verry simillar looking i just cant remember what was called they dropped that set in some league then never relesed that mtx again sadly

[dark sequoia]

is there an eater implicit for mana leech? i dont remember

[silent leaf]

AFAIK

theres none

[split maple]

i need like 35 more passives and droping leech wheel would save me 3

[silent leaf]

leech related for the implicits

[split maple]

its life leeches on gloves

[silent leaf]

what weapon are you

[split maple]

grace of the goddes

[silent leaf]

wtf is that type

[dark sequoia]

wand

[silent leaf]

wand?

wand mastery

has leech

[split maple]

wand mastery is needed for accuracy sadly

[silent leaf]

go get precision + arrogance

[split maple]

ci

and lvl21 precision already

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

[dark sequoia]

gloves can roll mana leech explicit

and accuracy

[silent leaf]

yea im out of ideas lmfao

[dark sequoia]

You could use warlord mark

[silent leaf]

💀

[split maple]

yea that aint an option too

[stoic horizon]

technically crown of eyes has mana leech but thats useless on wander

[cobalt blade]

only thing i can think of is mana leech support

[split maple]

trying to minmax this without going for grasping lightning res crit on chest (which would solve all issues but well unobtanium): https://pobb.in/w-59rQhP1kio

[cobalt blade]

for no tree investment and the limited slots for kboc

[split maple]

tho its already entering a bit of cope level given end of league timeframe

[dark sequoia]

Dunno if cluster jewels are viable strat

[cobalt blade]

Tho i will say losing instant leech makes indigon feel ass

that 5% hard carries

[silent leaf]

indigooners

i remember when first phrecia came

people are begging for indigoons

[dark sequoia]

Is Zerker Indigon a thing with the 30% instaleech?

[silent leaf]

i dont think so?

[cobalt blade]

you could make it a thing

Idunno why you would but you could

[silent leaf]

zerker aint getting shit from the entire ascendacy besides that tho kek

[dark sequoia]

With bloodlines it's easier to do weird stuff

[silent leaf]

theres no bloodline that helps it i think no?

also

im VERY SURE

[dark sequoia]

Maybe like, 40% More node + instaleech, then...lycia?

[silent leaf]

its 30% of instant life leech

[cobalt blade]

maybe breach lord for ignore res

[silent leaf]

not mana

[cobalt blade]

Thats about it

[dark sequoia]

Ah I thought it was all leech rip

[silent leaf]

im 99% sure its life

and not mana

wrong copy

[dark sequoia]

Gladiator witha claw? Lol

[dark sequoia]

There's no way to make indigon claw unless some jank unique comes out right?

[cobalt blade]

cursed as hell that weapon master was actually good in phrecia 2

[silent leaf]

i mean varunastra is there

there's some builds that abuse it with clusters spam

[dark sequoia]

How stupid of an idea is Lancing Steel CoC Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation
with Varunastra

and astral projector

[split maple]

yeah its a bad idea for sure 😄 just thinking about all the options to get a few more passives :&

[silent leaf]

you run 12 clusters and use the spare slots with flat damage abyss jewels, since 12 clusters axe and swords or smth else counts as double for varunastra

[cobalt blade]

Ye fair

[dark sequoia]

Varunastra has similar flat to a high end dagger, no?
It counts as a dagger for bladeblast right?

[silent leaf]

it counts as everything so id assume so

its dogshit flat tho

so you are forced to run abyss jewels

[leaden quiver]

if you want to play blade blast of dagger detonation, vulconus is much more interesting

[stoic horizon]

and the base crit is laughable

if you try to coc

[cobalt blade]

steal masterful form frenzy stack 35 ice bite hat

[dark sequoia]

Varunastra lets you use lancing steel of spraying as a trigger though

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/tasty-tasty-tasty-gif-23230508

[dark sequoia]

okay one thing I want to try is like

monastery bell with shaper influence heist shield

so that you inflict brittle/shock/gain a charge on shield hit.

[leaden quiver]

true sigma

[brazen vector]

Is there a leech synth implicit on jewels maybe

[cobalt blade]

theres no mana leech

[silent leaf]

no mana leech

well there is for weapon

[brazen vector]

Hmm

[split maple]

gear only synth

[cobalt blade]

(should clarify ig none for abyss jewels and i think if your putting in a regular jewel ur better off just pathing instant)

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326803767890542713.webp?size=128

[stoic horizon]

tujtle

[silent leaf]

tutel

[split maple]

looks like the reasonable way of taking leech wheel and insta leech is staying 😄 any low hanging fruit elsewhere i am missing? given the league end soon i will be happy if i finish boots and if lucky shield

[native abyss]

no news

[split maple]

almost got 60 synaptics too, so one pull at slot machine away from fixing crit without clusters 🙏

[brazen vector]

Mana leech from a timeless jewel but thats a no go with adorned

[dark sequoia]

where damage tho

heist base has a lot less evasion than level 84 evasion shield

and brittle is kinda useless since not using seething fury since no ES on shield

[onyx adder]

i mean ok but theres no way 3 passive points is worth that

like ur telling me u cant get 3% dps and 4% ehp off 3 passives at this gear level

[dark sequoia]

I need to resist the urge to leaguestart a meme build

[cobalt blade]

i cant tell if your saying that viridian jewel is better than the mana leech wheel+instant leech or not

[dark sequoia]

Warden Galvanic Field

[cobalt blade]

since that viridian is so much worse than 80 flat 30 lightning res(15% mana)

[whole bluff]

1% dps per point + 1.3% EHP per point, my guess is the DPS is ridiculously easy to get more efficiently, but isn't "relative EHP/max hit" more expensive?

[onyx adder]

it is but its like 30% fake ehp because most of it is coming from arcane cloak

[split maple]

ehp there is kinda hella inflated due to shield so i wouldnt even look at it too much

[onyx adder]

which doesnt have full uptime

[cobalt blade]

also i am going crazy i dontremember timeless jewels having mana leech

[whole bluff]

Ah, cloak. Bane and salvation of the entire archetype

[split maple]

i rly wish there was a checkbox in config for "disable ehp gain from arcane cloak"

[onyx adder]

those stats on the viridian are probably so bad as a blue that u could go 4 mod and get some crit multi or some shit

[split maple]

like i want too look at damage with it and tank without it

[dark sequoia]

do non-unique timeless jewels have any interesting mods

[onyx adder]

idk

anyway mana leech is basically always most efficiently taken as single viridian jewel suffix regardless of build

its op

[silent leaf]

thats what we said initially too

we are circling

[cobalt blade]

hard disagree for an indigon build that rly wants instant leech especially on an adorned setup

[stoic horizon]

they dont do anything special in poe1

[cobalt blade]

your mana just gets destroyed without it

[onyx adder]

no

he said why he didnt want to do that

i explained why that was probably wrong and he should

[silent leaf]

ye adorned

[whole bluff]

Ah, instant leech mastery is mandatory I think? For attack based indigon?

[dark sequoia]

Looks like they just roll cobalt/viridian/crimson mod pool together from poedb

[onyx adder]

with numbers

[cobalt blade]

p much

[silent leaf]

you cant on cobalt or crimson

iirc

[whole bluff]

Idk, not everything is MFA, but still

[silent leaf]

i remember you can only roll mana on viridian

[onyx adder]

thats right

[onyx adder]

yea thats probably true

i didnt see what he actually used the 3 points on until after

he just said it was 3 points

[dark sequoia]

3% DPS loss is worth QOL tho

[onyx adder]

but if ur getting instant leech from that 3 points its difficult to cut

[dark sequoia]

Cause if it sucks to play you arent having 100% uptime anyway

[split maple]

that said if i get 130 unreserved mana somewhere i am hitting next aoe breakpoint... thats another factor

[whole bluff]

Instant leech should probably most of the time just be on your non-negotiable check list. Unless you have more available sources than the mastery

[cobalt blade]

its like 30+% dps loss dropping instant imo

[onyx adder]

no

its only useful for this setup

instant mana leech, anyway

[cobalt blade]

its also mandatory on int acc stack

30+aps is hard to sustain without it

[onyx adder]

99% of the time its useless

[cobalt blade]

outside of that yeah its just good recovery

[dark sequoia]

Unless you can't fix your gloves, I'd just get accuracy or mana leech on gloves and take the mastery.

[onyx adder]

1% of the time its some indigon or mind of the council setup and its necessary

[spice pecan]

well int/acc stack could go mana gained on hit jewel right

[whole bluff]

I just figured everyone needs some form of instant leech if hit build. Not always mana, but almost always something. Unless slams I guess

[cobalt blade]

yes but your very jewel starved

[onyx adder]

instant life leech is just lgoh

dont be fooled

[whole bluff]

Ye

Fair

[onyx adder]

if ur build doesnt want lgoh it doesnt want instant leech

[dark sequoia]

Can abyss jewels go mgoh or leech? And have a piece of gear with abyss socket?

[onyx adder]

they cannot

[cobalt blade]

one argument id make here is es builds

[onyx adder]

yes alright okay smartass

[cobalt blade]

5% for a big ass ES pool is like 200-300 on hit vs 30 lgoh /egoh on watchers eye or w/e

[onyx adder]

if ur build doesnt want lgoh OR ESGOH it doesnt want instant leech

[cobalt blade]

my argument is that the 10x value from a big ass ES pool is much higher value

[silent leaf]

[dark sequoia]

Does it exist as a wand synth implicit?

[split maple]

tho okay thats just droping faster attacks from shield charge so i can slap enlighten lvl3 on spellslinger

[silent leaf]

qol?

whats qol

[brazen vector]

When 1 banner is your build

[spice pecan]

oh no, it's banners

[cobalt blade]

like ill take my phrecia char for example

[silent leaf]

3

[cobalt blade]

thats quite a bit better than say a disc watchers drop instant leech

[onyx adder]

u need SO MUCH es to get 200 esgoh off the 5% btw

[dark sequoia]

oh no banners

[onyx adder]

like thats a 40k es pool

[silent leaf]

OH YES BANNERS

WE STACKING 9 AURAS ON THIS ONE

[cobalt blade]

ghostreaver specifically affects instant

[onyx adder]

and at that point ur non instant leech is hard carrying

[cobalt blade]

so its only 20k

[dark sequoia]

you better be uncapped res without your banners up

[silent leaf]

yep

[onyx adder]

oh yea ok

its still a shit ton

and ur non instant leech is still hard carrying

[silent leaf]

i fucking love my blues

[onyx adder]

so i mean u can click the node but im not rly sold that it does anything worth paying attention to unless ur also hitting extremely fast

[dark sequoia]

I'd love an updated version of Hidden Potential.

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[cobalt blade]

molten strike balls instant leech or currently int acc stack take any claw skill or bit of a cheaty thing this on a mageblood flask

its funky with instant leech

and big es

[dark sequoia]

is this your league starter

[onyx adder]

dude

[silent leaf]

i got muted

fucking for forwarding a message

[silent leaf]

nah

[spice pecan]

lmao

[onyx adder]

what i said at the start was that if ur build doesnt want lgoh it doesnt want instant leech

[silent leaf]

i cant get the jewel on league start

#1┃build-planning message

[onyx adder]

molten strike is not a counterexample to that point lmao

[silent leaf]

this was my league start

like week 1

[cobalt blade]

yes but im making the argument ES builds even if they dont want es gain on hit would want instant leech since it 5-10x better

[silent leaf]

i died on HCSSF by fucking rolling pins

and got depressed

ill try again next league

[cobalt blade]

30 on hit is quite different to 300

[silent leaf]

https://pobb.in/9PWOsXsKEFff Bossing
https://pobb.in/pH4Uh7eQ4BHT Mapping

[dark sequoia]

Updated Hidden Potential would probably just be Adorned but for equipped items

[onyx adder]

i will concede that u are correct if u will concede that this is a painful nitpick and pay for the bucket of ice im going to stick my face into until my headache goes away

[split maple]

yes please do give me 70% chance to explode crusader chest

[onyx adder]

fair trade

[cobalt blade]

it definitely is a nitpick because im bored

[brazen vector]

Go sleep

[cobalt blade]

nou

[silent leaf]

you dont really need that

[brazen vector]

Can't, therapy soon

[silent leaf]

since banner champ has 3 ways to explode

[cobalt blade]

ah i see

[silent leaf]

realistically alrd built in

[split maple]

you know whats the difference there blazar

i got that jewel but i dont have 0 motivation to banner

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/taser-cat-taser-cat-gif-13158822872232266472

[brazen vector]

So you have more than 0 motivation to play banner

[analog valve]

when phrecia 2.0 ends, do idols just disappear?

[split maple]

less

[brazen vector]

They stay

[cobalt blade]

i think your the first person ive seen willingly click banners D:

[brazen vector]

But unusable

[split maple]

they go to remove only tabs in keepers if it will be same as phrecia last time

[stoic horizon]

no they just become unusable

[analog valve]

ok ty

[onyx adder]

banner power level is genuinely off the charts

[cobalt blade]

ay but they suck so much ass to use

[stoic horizon]

they are op but clunky af

[onyx adder]

in slower formats like hc or ssf theyre actual top tier setup

[cobalt blade]

completely busted if ur scaling some semi decent amount of aura effect though

[onyx adder]

maybe i leaguestart hc banners next league

that'll learn em

[cobalt blade]

sounds like death would be a mercy

[dark sequoia]

Banners in blight map build?

[onyx adder]

i'll just borrow a @crystal talon pob i dont even have to use my own

getting pobs from the psychopath who plays coruscating elixir in hc is usually a mistake but hey

[dark sequoia]

Has anyone found Worship the Blightheart to be actually worth the anoint?

[onyx adder]

spikey gimme a banner pob when ur online i might league start in hc

[brazen vector]

Do you just weapon swap?

[cobalt blade]

still needing to get a source of conq ground makes it pretty ass

and i dont think conq ground linger carries over to it so you only get it while stationary

[dark sequoia]

Maybe good on occultist to squeeze out a little bit more -chaos res?

[brazen vector]

I might actually meme that banner pob

[cobalt blade]

(or from zealotry/purifying flame i guess generating it but lol)

[onyx adder]

absolutely nothing scales fungus ground or interacts with it except sporeguard

the anoint is pretty funny with sporeguard but doesnt do anything else

[cobalt blade]

yea thats what i thought

it should atleast give you a source of conq ground for the anoint

[silent leaf]

no

i only swap gems

from sunder / perforate of d / earthquake / earthshatter depends on content

[brazen vector]

Aah, that makes it easier

Ill try it!

[onyx adder]

its a waste of time unless ur using sporeguard, 10% -res isnt worth it on most builds as an anoint even if it was up all the time with no condition

[silent leaf]

that why in the videos you see gems there in the inventory kek

[brazen vector]

Makes more sense now, yea

[onyx adder]

like most of the time 10% -res is less than 10% more dps and 10% more is not a good anoint if it doesnt do anything else

[cobalt blade]

its competing with anointing fuckin whispers of doom for -res or punishment and whispers just hard beats it

ontop of whispers not even being the optimal anoint for alot of builds

[silent leaf]

https://pobb.in/YouRiYJM3DdK this is what im going for next league for HCSSF

[onyx adder]

its also a very expensive anoint

idk how much it is in trade but farming prismatics in ssf is annoying

[silent leaf]

there's the leveling tree there if you wanna tryi t out

[onyx adder]

so i assume its expensive

[cobalt blade]

love the item name

[brazen vector]

I have a useless champ lying around, so no leveling needed

[cobalt blade]

i think they reached a div at some point

per oil

[silent leaf]

btw u played the new cat game from Binding of isaac creator?

banger sound tracks

[brazen vector]

Mewgenics?

[silent leaf]

ye

[brazen vector]

Mot yet

[silent leaf]

https://youtu.be/YxXiMTwanZ0?list=RDYxXiMTwanZ0

it has a fucking banger soundtrack

[brazen vector]

lets go

[livid quarry]

im going to play my final build when phrecia ends

[cobalt blade]

is it a character pre golden hand quest

had to grab that on some of my standard test chars at some point

[brazen vector]

Ill never forget the golden hand job ping

this will do

we go rarity stacking

[tame cliff]

is transfer in ~12h?

[elder marlin]

isnt this just like a gold amulet?

max rarity on a synth amy is 20% which is the same as gold amy

[tranquil sedge]

did you reroll some of that yourself? 😮

and how much do 2-3implicit %int bases go for

[brazen vector]

its flat int

[tranquil sedge]

yea but if u made that yourself wondering wat % int could go for
coz 18% do be a lot of int

[stable hawk]

the problem is simplex is so good

so idk how much someone would be willing to pay

[grizzled lily]

wheres ggg

https://tenor.com/view/instant-pleasures-gif-2759910482357403616

[leaden quiver]

what pob

https://pobb.in/sRTDxrZvA5v1

go beast farm broski

470% ms

[hoary scarab]

flush

[spice pecan]

ruthless??

[cobalt blade]

5-10 d in keepers nonexistent in phrecia

[livid quarry]

!leagues

[covert swan]

In Path of Exile 1, challenge leagues last approximately 4 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile 1's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be what you want to play in, but still not where you want to start.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The current challenge league, Keepers, started:
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[cobalt blade]

because simplexs are strictly better than a 3 implicit synth amulet

[livid quarry]

when do we get 3.28 stream

[tawdry olive]

never, walls forever

[leaden quiver]

thursday

[brazen vector]

@silent leaf how did you get the chest plate

[silent leaf]

which

[tranquil sedge]

at least its price makes greatwolfs and synths good to use 😄 as stepping stones

[brazen vector]

life + banenr effect

[silent leaf]

oh ye thats a typo

i forgot

[final owl]

they are obviously preparing to drop a content bomb, thus the silence before the storm. trust.

[silent leaf]

banner effect is a prefix

[brazen vector]

yea

[silent leaf]

you go smth else for suffix

[tranquil sedge]

trust
lots of that going round

[tranquil sedge]

he said the b word

[silent leaf]

BANNER

[final owl]

The day I can't huff copium and boof hopium is the day I shuffle off this mortal coil

[cobalt blade]

banner? i hardly know'er

[crisp plinth]

What's a trust

Is it edible

[tawdry olive]

🅱️ anner

[spice pecan]

it's free money that you get if you got good character creator RNG

[tranquil sedge]

must be, ggg's been gorging on it and i think most of its gone now

[warm musk]

You don't need to crit in order to shock right? Even if I have elemental overload? As long as I do 25m average hit damage?

[leaden quiver]

you need chance to shock

[split maple]

You need shock chance

[cobalt blade]

you need shock chance if no crit

[leaden quiver]

crits have inherent 100% chance to shock

[tranquil sedge]

^ shock chance if no crit

[warm musk]

rip

[tranquil sedge]

why rip? post a pob and we can see if there's somewhere to fit some in?

[cobalt blade]

If your running conductivity it gives you 25?% shock

[warm musk]

But I can still shock w the crit done w elem overload or nah?

[cobalt blade]

no

you used to be able to they for whatever reason disabled that a few leagues ago and you actually need shock chance now

[crisp plinth]

bad rng then rip

[warm musk]

Ok got it

nah just playing around w pob

https://pobb.in/Lm4TeoqgUri2

[tranquil sedge]

Ailments never count as being from Critical Strikes: This stat prevents your ailments from ever being counted as from a critical strike, even if the hit applying the ailment did critically strike

huh so this isn't just that it doesn't count as being from crit, it stops you applying it altogether without separate chance to apply?

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Elemental_Overload

[tight plinth]

[tranquil sedge]

....does this builld need shock
lmfao

[warm musk]

It might lol

[tranquil sedge]

-# i know i know minmaxing and all that

[warm musk]

TIL tho for elemental overload

[tranquil sedge]

if only i scrolled down lol
thanks

[cobalt blade]

Ye to me the wording also says it should still shock but eh

[cobalt blade]

jus get a better reflected ring so you can still go crit

like that pob has the mirror crit quiver in it for 240~ crit multi

[warm musk]

Too poor for a better ring as I don't wanna commit that much as of yet

[tranquil sedge]

not related to your question, but why is your mana spend in configuration so low

[cobalt blade]

wild statement linking a pob with legacy shapers the standard mirror chest and quiver

[warm musk]

Those are what I have lol

[cobalt blade]

Fair enough

[tranquil sedge]

80k mana is a config someone with like a 25k mana pool might have
you have more than 10x that pool lol

[cobalt blade]

Do they have cloak spend turned on

cant see that on mobile

[tranquil sedge]

they do

[cobalt blade]

Ye its fine then having that at 80k as well

[tranquil sedge]

but even then its far too low
tho thats only important if something lives that long i guess

[split maple]

i mean 5 positive helicals are made in league

no reason not to have one in that budget in standard 😄

[warm musk]

Can I even reach more mana spend lol this build isnt good at clear tho

[tranquil sedge]

good point, when keepers ends and the shops are merged into standard

might be some more stuff dumped into the market to buy

[cobalt blade]

Arcane cloak ramps indigon spend

and then your lightning rain/storm rain do stupid spend from the inc cost

[tranquil sedge]

i guess if something lives long enough the main issue would really just be having targets to hit LOL

[cobalt blade]

you can spend like your full mana pool per second if stuff lives

[final owl]

73 billion dps and bad at clear. how is that possible :I

[tranquil sedge]

things are gonna die poof

[warm musk]

The armour/mana stackers is safer imo

[tranquil sedge]

you can spend like 3-4x your pool per second if things live

[warm musk]

Played mfa manastacker before back in affliction

[cobalt blade]

For sure ye

[split maple]

kinda funny using indigon just for mfa cost

but if it works it works 😄

[warm musk]

Yep lol

[cobalt blade]

Uncapped 1% more per 1 cost is a helluva support

[tranquil sedge]

lol that part entirely slipped my mind

...fuck does that mean mfa could be playable in 3.28

ignoring the missing bmc entirely?

[split maple]

i think sansshoto was thinking bout mfa next league

yea

[cobalt blade]

its playable rn in keepers

[spice pecan]

conner played it in phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

like, indigon just for scaling mana cost for mfa and call it a day?

[cobalt blade]

Yup

[split maple]

didnt conner do it also in one of pohx pls with usual ascends

[tranquil sedge]

!

[cobalt blade]

Its worse than kboc afaik currently but ye

[cobalt blade]

Ye hiero

[tranquil sedge]

wut

worse dps?

[cobalt blade]

ye

[tranquil sedge]

if its worse dps then there's no point playing it at all

coz its certainly worse clear too

[spice pecan]

could have been, i vaguely remember him doing it on hiero

[cobalt blade]

4000% spell damage and the permanent flat for kboc

[past mantle]

I should make a bingo for things I expect and hope for and then be disappointed when I don't get a single line.

[tranquil sedge]

like the only thing it has going for it is big dick damage and tankiness, if built well

[cobalt blade]

Vs mfa being more reliant on arcane cloak flat basically

[tranquil sedge]

if u take the damage away well you can just make ur kboc tanky too

[brazen vector]

[cobalt blade]

So your average damage uptime is gonna be better on kboc

[brazen vector]

I just six linked in 6 fuses

[tranquil sedge]

okay so playable but not really worth playing at all then seems to be the conclusion

[split maple]

thats state of the art rn: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/SebK-1988/SebWall?i=6&search=name%3Dseb

[past mantle]

Spooned.

[spice pecan]

why does it say an additional curse can be applied to you

[tranquil sedge]

damn

[spice pecan]

there's a limit to how many curses the player can even have?

[tranquil sedge]

thats a lot of mirrors damn

[past mantle]

Self flaggelstion is me not playing my magnum opus out of fear of it not working well enough outside of the pob.

[cobalt blade]

if its being applied by yourself yes

[spice pecan]

interesting

[past mantle]

No if not self curse.

[split maple]

dude been pumping 24/7 invigo blights this league into that build

[past mantle]

You can have all the curses with things like soul mantle easily.

[tranquil sedge]

what's the div/hr on that
and how much do you need to get started if you don't have a supercomputer to play poe on

[tawdry olive]

when i did the strat i mostly didnt care what the div/h was, i knew it was 100% enough to cover investment cost

[opal ingot]

I saw that dude also sell the 5 mod shields I've also been trying to recomb once

[tawdry olive]

the real profit is in gold

you get from 200k to 2m gold per 16.5 dunes

[split maple]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xiJDgOAVBS8JkRd0nq9xp_3UrGbu1ZAk5XSEUtMxEeQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[tawdry olive]

depending on the petal powers

[split maple]

he says 40-45d/h

[past mantle]

God damn.

[opal ingot]

He's probably also profit crafting on top of blight. That or a viewer gave his gear to him

[tranquil sedge]

huh
that sounds pretty good

[split maple]

my gold avg is like 400-600k with the strat

but i cannot roll maps that good

[tawdry olive]

theres one petal ability that turns monster drops to gold, one that revives the monsters, combined with bismuth and shit... yeaaaaaaaa

[split maple]

since t16.5 are too big chaos sink to roll proper

[tranquil sedge]

considering im happy if i can make 20-30d/hr

[past mantle]

Petal rewards are pretty crazy. Wish they would trim out the bad ones or give you a way to get 2 at once more.

[cobalt blade]

scour binding

[past mantle]

[steel light]

does delirum node in atlas tree that give delirium orbs/cluster as reward works with delirous map?

[opal ingot]

Next patch 16. 5 will always roll 6 mods amen

[split maple]

got one hell of scour sink too

[opal ingot]

Esm do u still have a lot of things left to do on your hiero?

[steel light]

i make around that with 20 white maps with ultimatum, but i have to do all those inscription after which takes more time 💀

[split maple]

emm lock corrupt one jewel, vivid roll one more if i change pathing on tree, boots and shield (kinda cope but not that important again) and if both boots and shield 3 rare abyssals

thats pretty much it

[cobalt blade]

run valdos and make that much per map if your willing to run the most fucked up ones

[opal ingot]

Ahh

[split maple]

unless i get crit grasping mod, when its cluster changes and chest craft in addition, but prolly double dmg

[steel light]

send to void, do not pass go, do not collect $200

[cobalt blade]

even non void if you get in early enough you can make that much

albiet you need to run a lot of live searches

[tawdry olive]

the real meta is learning who the valdo box gamblers are

and just camping in their hideouts

[cobalt blade]

I did that in phrecia a lilbit tho live searching their account instead

[steel light]

what does that do? pray tell

[split maple]

a list of gamblers and a list of gamblers who are bad at pricing you say

[cobalt blade]

few enough people running em just search was fine

[tawdry olive]

the moment they list a good valdo map you instantly snipe it

before it even appears on trade site

[cobalt blade]

You put a regex jn your search and just have a good understanding of price for x map

[steel light]

you'll need the proper knowledge regarding pricing right?

[cobalt blade]

ofc

[tawdry olive]

yea its some esoteric stuff

[cobalt blade]

most valdo runners learn fast though

[split maple]

its basically fliping valdos except when you feel like you want to run one

and fliping is wisdom check

[spice pecan]

wait do you actually sit in some valdo runner's hideout

and just resell them to them in person

[cobalt blade]

no you sit in people gambling boxes hideouts

[spice pecan]

ah

[cobalt blade]

Or you sit in jodox's hideout

who does both

and in keepers had a tab called valdo backlog that was filled with forbidden flame/flesh maps

[opal ingot]

Poe is crazy man

[tawdry olive]

i think the highest knowledge checks probably belong to timeless jewel pricing or vaal temple farmers

[cobalt blade]

theres spreadsheets around with a bunch of good timeless jewel numbers iirc

and theres a haaandful of people that live search those to snipe

[odd fox]

poe mafia

[bold scarab]

That doesn't count because timeless jewels are way too cryptic to even be good design

[split maple]

i still cannot believe what sorta lethal pride i got for 1d in og phrecia 😄

[opal ingot]

Yknow I've asked that question before if timeless jewel numbers are good design xd

[tranquil sedge]

if someone really wanted to do it now, they could do it themselves i mean

now that ppl know how the timeless jewel seed logic

it'd still be a ton of effort, but doable

[keen veldt]

that sounds agonizing

[split maple]

sounds automatable

[keen veldt]

as does reselling FF

[cobalt blade]

My og phrecia one

[tranquil sedge]

automatable is the word you were looking for yep

[cobalt blade]

Highlighted are all %/flat str

[tranquil sedge]

14483 or something like that right

or was that the %dd jewel

[cobalt blade]

Don't remember

[keen veldt]

most things are I’d imagine yeah

[cobalt blade]

ill go check actually

[tranquil sedge]

but its certainly a lot of effort

[split maple]

20% strength, rage on hit, 4% life 😄

[tranquil sedge]

oh 14435 thats a big one too

[cobalt blade]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/Nacasatú-2245/NacaBetterJugg?i=1&search=name%3DNaca 13235

[tranquil sedge]

you can script the part where it does all the math for you
but deciding what combinations of mods are worth how much etc. should be the harder part

[limber lance]

Still no new teaser GRRRRRRRR

[onyx adder]

i think they are but theyre outdated

[opal ingot]

You ask chatgpt to generate you the best numbers

[onyx adder]

ggg needs a better algorithm so u cant predict what goes where

[opal ingot]

And it will hallucinate the best mods for you

[split maple]

i am getting slightly pissy about lack of teaser season too i got to admit

[silent leaf]

Patience is a virtue

And my virtue too is running thin

[limber lance]

Its been 2 days, we should get one this evening

Maybe

[cobalt blade]

from minmax side of things i like being able to see every number from flipping side of things id like it to be unknown

[opal ingot]

🥹

Then every number is a casino

[tawdry olive]

poe in a nutshell

[opal ingot]

Barring a few numbers that streamers figured out is the best for their build

[onyx adder]

thats how t was designed and how it was before the algorithm was reverse engineered

[opal ingot]

Ahh

[cobalt blade]

^^there was the like 7 dd number in ranger area most good players knew

[tawdry olive]

yea timeless jewel scams were a huge thing i believe

[cobalt blade]

yea

[opal ingot]

Tell me about it

[tawdry olive]

because you cant actually tell wtf the jewel does until you equip it

by then its too late

[cobalt blade]

it was one of the few reasonable uses of tft rep

otherwise you were better off just going to trade and trying random ones till you found something useable

[opal ingot]

Question how is it a scam when it's the intended mechanic for ggg to not let you know what it does until u equip it

Unless u mean it's like public chat where someone claims their jewel is almost bis for a meta build ?

[split maple]

well hopefully no legion rework anytime soon

[cobalt blade]

sell jewel that has "5 dd" for 1 mirror person buys its not 5 dd

[opal ingot]

Oh lol

[tawdry olive]

yea basically you can lie about what the jewel does, you might even really have that jewel, but not sell the actual one to them

etc

[cobalt blade]

basic scam but timeless jewels were ripe with that

[silent leaf]

ngl i kinda wish they just remove the duration on the timeless conflict

[opal ingot]

Lmao that's hilarious af

[silent leaf]

but its just me problem as a banner player

since i need a bit of time to recoup

[cobalt blade]

The other one was also people doing build sales on tft

[silent leaf]

[split maple]

what so you get unlimited number of boss kills

[cobalt blade]

And giving you a different lethal pride than the one in their pob

[silent leaf]

nah, 1 emblem = 5 boss kills

[split maple]

that would suck ass

[silent leaf]

buff rewards

[opal ingot]

Then when someone catches on "oh shit I gave u the wrong number sorry tehee lemme give u the real one back"

[silent leaf]

would make my life in ssf also a lot easier

[cobalt blade]

Ya prolly

[opal ingot]

Yeah man it's hard to make that mistake

[silent leaf]

i dont have to stress as much

[split maple]

just level a build with clear for 5ways if you so serious bout them blazar 😄

[opal ingot]

So it's definitely intentional 99% of the time

[split maple]

like anyways having a clearer is handy for a lot of content

[silent leaf]

ngl the only 2 builds ik how to do is Melee or RF

and thats kinda

[tawdry olive]

based

[silent leaf]

the only 2 characters i play each leaug

lmfao

[cobalt blade]

rf is based

[tawdry olive]

i too am a melee attack enjoyer, its most of what i play

[cobalt blade]

same but i wanna be spark enjoyer just hard to make it feel good currently

in comparison to attacks

[tawdry olive]

i have zero knowledge of minions, so i keep quiet when the minion bros are discussing how not to flush divs down the drain because they gemswapped their spectre or smth

[silent leaf]

i REALLY

REALLY want to be a spell or proj enjoyer

but the shit you need

to do dps is pain

[split maple]

i hope tree will still be good for jewels next league

being able to make a cws is rly handy

[silent leaf]

im more of a "play 1 week worth of time and fuck off to PL" typa guy

[cobalt blade]

(although my problem is constantly comparing it to 1b damage inquis spark thats no longer possible)

[silent leaf]

the problem for me is

"why the fuck is every fucking gear needing +3 all gem bullshit"

[cobalt blade]

yeah thats fair

[silent leaf]

like why is every fucking amulet

either + level gem bullshit or outright atziri foilable

[cobalt blade]

Imean amulets easy

[split maple]

idk i only made +levels amulet once so far

[cobalt blade]

can force it with aug

[split maple]

in idk how many builds

[silent leaf]

i just want it to be Life + res

[cobalt blade]

just need to alt for +1 generic skill

[split maple]

did you see mine from last league

[cobalt blade]

Nop

[cobalt blade]

big talisman hit too god damn

[split maple]

used to be a coral ammu ya 😄

[cobalt blade]

that beast craft ammy to talisman is so ass on the weightings lmao

[silent leaf]

I CAN I PUT MY BALLS IN YOUR FANGJAW

[split maple]

Anoint was the most time consuming part of the craft

[cobalt blade]

ama sleep tho yall have fun o/

[split maple]

I think I droped like 3 prismatics before second Golden -.-

Gngn

[silent leaf]

gngn

[opal ingot]

Gn

[surreal musk]

how do u do the prefixes on this

[split maple]

alt+aug +all, regal hoping for suffix, clean

multimod preflock harvest aug life (need full suffix to not get leech). hit t2 there

oh wait no, force+phys first

multimod preflock phys flat harvest aug phys, then do the life thingie

[surreal musk]

ah

[brazen vector]

@silent leaf

be proud

https://pobb.in/ZkHT5s2Nv-YG

[silent leaf]

wrong copy

fuck

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/833581198114553856.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=InaClap

the banner army is growing

[split maple]

i rly need to get on the alva train, i am getting masive fomo rn looking at screenshots

like wtf is this

[brazen vector]

oops, my rings arent catalysed and I need to wait for my gold shipment later

[brazen vector]

I dont trust my PC with killing 3k rares PER alva

[limber lance]

Fomo on endleague? And its also just bugabuse

[split maple]

league didnt end yet 😛

[limber lance]

In heart and soul

[split maple]

also they now had what 2 days to fix it

[tawdry olive]

poe teaches us that "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods" is bullshit get on that train asap choo choo

[fossil mural]

Would they even bother

[split maple]

gonna put it into legitimate to run category at that point

[limber lance]

Theyre all chilling rn, no poe teasers either

[surreal musk]

our intern is working hard on 3.28 no time for bug fixing

[fossil mural]

Exploit early exploit often

Now more than ever

Cause ggg stopped banning for it

KEKL

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/J8KGf6j-bD5Q I had to add a circle to the tree

[limber lance]

Anyone here into hideouts? Im looking for a small efficient HO that is nature themed and on the brighter side

[spice pecan]

have you checked out hideoutshowcase?

[surreal musk]

https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/4267/title/Nier 2B Luxurious Hideout v.1.0

[spice pecan]

please no

[brazen vector]

PLEASE YES

[limber lance]

Yeah always, just a bit tedious to navigate

[elder marlin]

ok wtf is this, where is the starting point for the fossils node?

[brazen vector]

Zoom out

[elder marlin]

is this like some kind of double secret passage

from a 1 path node

[brazen vector]

Or from the current node down

Would make it 4 paths which is still possible

The 1,3,4 rule doesn't apply here, thats for certain

[elder marlin]

theres nothing

this pathing is cursed

[tight plinth]

isnt it on this bend?

[brazen vector]

Thats also possible yea

[elder marlin]

rule of hidden path node, it must be connected another source

[uncut drift]

There is also a rule that there must be at least one empty chunk between the start node and the target node.

But most likely this is a generation bug and the passage was absorbed.

[elder marlin]

or its from the asurite node and its a double hidden path

1 go up to the currency, 1 go left to the fossils

the only explanation i can give

[uncut drift]

impossible

[elder marlin]

i mean my current delve generation is almost impossible

[brazen vector]

Try the 2 possible nodes with the empty chunks

If nothing there its bugged

@silent leaf its too much piano for me :(((((

[uncut drift]

Where I wrote the bug, you can see that there are two paths between two nodes, which shouldn't be the case. This happened because the path above it prevented the creation of an additional node from which a path to the hidden path could have originated.

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dance-sea-lion-gif-18060641275691946665

[silent leaf]

is fine

[tight plinth]

werent you going to bed like an hour ago?

[brazen vector]

At least I can now also share the bananerism

[silent leaf]

nah

it was for naca

the gn

[brazen vector]

There we ho

Go

[silent leaf]

i bestow you my cat files https://files.catbox.moe/emqa6g.rar

300+ of them

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-chat-juju-juju-cat-gif-16905771

[elder marlin]

jewelry node is the wrong node

so does the currency node

[opal ingot]

i like me some minimalist, verdant and not suffocating hideout

[tight plinth]

this is george, hes been naughty

[uncut drift]

My friends like this work, and if you want, you can place the necessary NPCs closer, in the style of the Fellowship of the Ring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VitAwj1Yl2Q

[fickle glen]

Hey, does cast when damage is taken support counts the damage of blocked hits or nah?

[brazen vector]

Blocking is a layer of defense that will entirely prevent damage from an enemy hit

[fickle glen]

Got it

[brazen vector]

unless you have glancing blows you wont get a cwdt setup going

[elder marlin]

just as i predicted

[crimson hearth]

i used up all my divines trying to craft a helm but failed am i doing smth wrong

[split maple]

okay thats a legit wtf

[split maple]

what sorta helmet?

[elder marlin]

double hidden node

[crimson hearth]

using horror essences

[split maple]

you dont need a single divine for that

okay 2 div

prefix can be done with matrons

[crimson hearth]

i used 18 lmao

[crimson hearth]

i want the suffix only the hypo and conc and ele dmg

[leaden quiver]

Yeah you spam horror essences until you get the supports dont you? Then reforge crit with locked crafted

[elder marlin]

essence horror until hypothermia

lock reforge crit

[split maple]

horror untill hypo, sufflock reforge crit 50-50 for spells, then ex ex matron scour ex ex

[crimson hearth]

well yeah my rng is trash i blew threw like 50 only got it 3 times

[elder marlin]

pray u hit high spell

[split maple]

thats not trash rng

thats a tad better than avg

[uncut drift]

it's photoshop

[crimson hearth]

i annul to remove unwanted prefix/suffix every time it removes hypo

[elder marlin]

i wish it was

[crimson hearth]

and the one time it works and i locked suff i accidentaly reforged crit twice so i ruined it

[split maple]

ouch

but yea its character building craft 😄

if playstation runs out of horrors dont forget you can harvest swap other corrupt essences (insanity etc) to them

[crimson hearth]

so like what now im 0d 0 essence and uh my farming is rng rly

[whole bluff]

Speed of light may be relative, but at least delve... no wtf

[crimson hearth]

(hiest)

[split maple]

calcif + adaptation + stability + 2x adversaries, t16.5 or t17 rolled for more rare mobs

[wheat sinew]

[split maple]

should be a few corrupt esses per map

[elder marlin]

double hidden node

[lucid gale]

Honorary Steve.

[blissful zodiac]

flickerstrike deadeye

sounds so weird

[limber lance]

very cool hideout thank yyouo

[crimson hearth]

calcif is extinct on ps

[blissful zodiac]

probably good for ssf tho

[split maple]

so go do scarb farm

[crimson hearth]

or like 80c each

[crimson hearth]

fair enough

[blissful zodiac]

fucking voidborn keys are dead on xbox also lol

[tight plinth]

do expedition and reroll tujens

[blissful zodiac]

I cant even gamba rip

also ngl im deleting my phercia characters lol

[crisp obsidian]

poe1 is never getting another teaser rip

[split maple]

another option is to do scarbless city square rush just with essence atlas and map device

like 30sec a map

[crisp obsidian]

only poe2 teasers from now on

[wheat sinew]

goods

:D

[crimson hearth]

im doing that rn actually

[split maple]

should be enough corrupt esses per hour, but its tedious af milion loading screens

[crisp obsidian]

not good

[crimson hearth]

problem is

i cant even survive the corrupt essences

[uncut drift]

[wheat sinew]

0.5.0 update including all the changes we will be making to the endgame

only part of poe2 update that matters xd

[crisp obsidian]

no part of poe2 update matters atm

[crimson hearth]

like i stack alot of mods and the ghosts and just get 1shot lol

[crisp obsidian]

who cares

[whole bluff]

In poe 3.28 players will be able to experience the frustration as GGG develops another game

[crisp obsidian]

poe1 league is closer

why are they even talking about poe2

[split maple]

you running scoured maps right?

can even drop a few tiers down

[wheat sinew]

because poe2 endgame has been a sore

[crisp obsidian]

so what

[crimson hearth]

alch

[crisp obsidian]

it's like 3 months away still

[split maple]

if corrupt esses mob kill you scour lol

[wheat sinew]

it's a good thing to ensure players that updates are gonna happen

[crisp obsidian]

we have a poe1 league close by

yeah cause players are so dumb

that they think they aren't updating ever again

[crimson hearth]

il just get a cb immune jewel

[crisp obsidian]

XD

[tight plinth]

poe2 isnt gonna affect poe1

[wheat sinew]

some think the current endgame will stay

so yesn't xd

but yeah, waiting on poe1 teasers

[crisp obsidian]

yeah imagine trying to reassure poe2 players about an update that is 3 months away

instead of giving any kind of teaser for poe1 players

like sheesh

it's so dumb how little ggg appreciates poe1 players

nowadays

or ever tbh

[wheat sinew]

https://tenor.com/I0sW.gif

[crisp obsidian]

I play both

I like both

I want to play both

I want teasers for both

[wheat sinew]

poe1 update is still 2 weeks away xd

[split maple]

livestream is in like a week tho

[crisp obsidian]

but I want teasers on their respective times

[split maple]

i want to get teased cmon

[wheat sinew]

SAME

I'm coping

[crisp obsidian]

stream is not

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-told-you-so-tongue-pet-animal-gif-7294033793699489450

[wheat sinew]

I'm just coping okay xd

[crisp obsidian]

it's ok

[spice pecan]

give them millions of dollars, get treated like second class citizens when the shiny new thing comes along

[wheat sinew]

maybe tonight we get 2

trust

[crisp obsidian]

you mean 2 teasers for poe2

xdd

[brazen vector]

we get 0

[wheat sinew]

shhh

[split maple]

dear ggg everything i want is screenshot of 1 (one) divine orb on ground in map

i will be happy

[crisp obsidian]

dear ggg all I want is even one word about poe1

one picture

one whatever

just give us something

[wheat sinew]

dear ggg all I want is quick assign button for blueprints

[brazen vector]

granted, its sekhemanctum

[tawdry olive]

🔫

[split maple]

if sekhemanctum will have divs i will fall to my knees outta happiness

[crisp obsidian]

I think they were gonna bring sekhema to poe1

but cause of the crying they had to revert

and do something else

[brazen vector]

do I try sanctum next league

[split maple]

and by have divs i mean smh like 10 raw div per hour at least pls

[wheat sinew]

[wheat sinew]

imagine

would be funny

[split maple]

its like div a tome on avg rn

but unique relics carry

like just run balance of terror ones

[brazen vector]

like the marvel leaks which were called wrong by actors but in the end were real kinda scenario

[crisp obsidian]

the thing is I can imagine it

[tight plinth]

whats the div/h of current sanctum, its less than 10?

[spice pecan]

i keep saying this every time it comes up, but literally there was no chance that would ever happen

we already have sanctum and suckmyass is 1:1 the exact same thing

[split maple]

wit balance of terror runs should be proper

its just kinda sad for actual raw div drops

[brazen vector]

wanted to play PBoD anyways finally x3

the ZHP version

[wheat sinew]

poe2 sanctum actually less punishing for no hit tho

fuck the lasers or barely visible meteors thjey added in sanctum 2.0

[tawdry olive]

i think GGG is just caught in this brutal cycle with 2 games where they have to make their work count for both somehow. They are also far far more restricted in being able to just say "nah this league kinda suck scrap everything"
They cant justify that now, all the effort on content wasted

[spice pecan]

yes because they have to make it doable for melee (and for poe2 players)

because it's mandatory

[wheat sinew]

they fucked sanctum with the updates man

q.q it was so good on release

[crimson hearth]

how do i get double influenced again i forgot

[spice pecan]

the 40-50% nerf in 3.26 was so fucked

[split maple]

awakener orb Mhmd

[wheat sinew]

definitely not biased cuz I had an osin but now I can't cuz I can't see the ground effects

[spice pecan]

awakener's orb

[wheat sinew]

[split maple]

and check ilvl

you want exactly ilvl84 - to get t1 spell crit but to not have some suffixes in pool

so easier to horror roll

[tight plinth]

what watchers mods are expensive nowadays?

[crisp obsidian]

dot multi

[crimson hearth]

ohh

my helm was 83

[wheat sinew]

es combos

[spice pecan]

life gain on hit, cold/lightning to fire, es gain on hit, there's a lot

[split maple]

then you can get at best +2% spell crit

[spice pecan]

it really depends on the combos you get

[split maple]

which is barely enough to cap crit on heralder

[crimson hearth]

il just get 84

im on craft of exile rn why cant i make it double influenced

tryna see how many tries on avg

[stuck phoenix]

Awakener's orb go brrr

[split maple]

i got me t2 crit so using this to compensate 😄

[crimson hearth]

cant find the option

[stuck phoenix]

Ok I have no idea where it is on coe

[split maple]

https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe1&b=56&m=essence&e=1235&i=|2|3|&lv=84&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=21&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&req={"1763":{"l":68,"g":2}}&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={%22limit%22:88}&gns={}

[stuck phoenix]

It is the only way normally though to turn an item double influenced

[crimson hearth]

oh i was using simulator

[split maple]

one trick you can consider is if you hit any res on essence spam with open suffix - harvest swap res to cold - sufflock reforge cold. hypo isnt guaranteed, but its pretty likely

since there is influenced cold prefix

you have to lucky annul res of then tho

so only do that if you value divines less than horrors

[spice pecan]

oh we krangling?

[crimson hearth]

ofc not bro

[crisp obsidian]

no I was just showing them it's there

[spice pecan]

oh, so no dyadic resonators then huh

[crimson hearth]

spending entire gear budget on the helm alone smh

[split maple]

well i suggest hitting it 😄

[crimson hearth]

il sell my svallin

[split maple]

dont

tho with svalinn it kinda makes sense to go for unveiled +2 levels on helmet after exalting conc

since you have one less +level slot

[crimson hearth]

i dont understand sht but yeah!

[split maple]

spells scale like crazy up to lvl30 in most cases

after lvl30 scaling is halved

[tranquil sedge]

more restricted in being able to just say "nah this league kinda suck scrap everything"
nah
they can very easily do that

what do you think phrecia 2.0 was

[split maple]

with benched aoe levels on helmet and svalinn you can usually hit lvl29

so it makes sense to unveil aoe levels for +2 to hit lvl30

if you have rare shield you can just get +lvl on it instead, but its way worse survivability

[crimson hearth]

oh yeah thats why i tryna get this amu from curio

[crimson hearth]

true true

[tranquil sedge]

that's all skills in general isn't it*

[split maple]

just take venarious astrolabe if you dont have focused

[split maple]

most attacks dont have flat but yea fair 😛

[tranquil sedge]

yeh attacks usually benefit less from gem levels, but still more per level below 30 than above

[crimson hearth]

i just know im gonna loose my sanity tryna get it

[tranquil sedge]

how long to farm and buy one on console trade

if u dont wanna heist?

[pulsar dune]

That's the craft with the 50/50 recomb no?

[crimson hearth]

console its 600d lmao

i got simplex twice so its possible im sure

[split maple]

1 in 4 preflock reforge caster

cast speed is only caster suffix on amu

[crimson hearth]

im hiesting either way for currency so might asw

[tranquil sedge]

and getting +2 phys is just a cannot roll attack aug phys, 50/50

[pulsar dune]

Ah nice

[tranquil sedge]

no recombing needed for this craft

[pulsar dune]

So yea it's pretty easy, if obnoxious

[tranquil sedge]

yea
going to be chaos spamming +1 all skills many times

[split maple]

recomb is for these life/dot multi/maybe maybe crit focuseds

[crimson hearth]

i mean i could always grind another simplex and sell for all the gear i need

[crimson hearth]

recomb gives me a headache

[tranquil sedge]

i could always grind another simplex get lucky*
ftfy

[crimson hearth]

huh

[tranquil sedge]

getting simplexes also requires luck

[split maple]

you still going for bv or for pbod

[crimson hearth]

yaa true

[crimson hearth]

pbod

had some problems with aoe scaing so dropped bv

[split maple]

then you can just

[crimson hearth]

please dont say its rare i discarded it like twice

[split maple]

venarious?

like 10% drop

[dark sequoia]

what's the best ascendancy for non-ailment fire DoT?

[pulsar dune]

should be dusting those, 500k each

[pulsar dune]

elemantalist, chieftain, hiero if totems

[crimson hearth]

nvm

[split maple]

and support gem level roll dont matter

you only need +3 skill

[crimson hearth]

what does star aligned mean

[dark sequoia]

What about Warden? They get Scorch, Unbound, etc

[spice pecan]

warden has negative defense

[split maple]

that you get conflux

[pulsar dune]

if your skill hits big enough to actually get scorch, maybe