1┃general

[ebon tendon]

Recombinating for 3 prefixes

[tranquil sedge]

that's a pretty easy kind of recomb tho, for 3p or 3s

[final owl]

just something i vaguely recall seeing. seemingly it was likely related to poe2 cos they're apparently working on a more permnant transmog system for it, not 1 though.

[finite quail]

Well if they are, it'll probably get backported to poe 1 eventually

Like the poe 2 cosmetics

[tranquil sedge]

would it? item transfer mtx generates them revenue at present

[tight plinth]

doppelganger guise vs gruthkul on AG?

[finite quail]

Well, yes

Why would they make it for free in one game and paid in the other? That'd make no sense

Its more likely it would still be paid for in both games

[finite quail]

Guise is better since AG is considered sane

which means they take 30-40% less phys/chaos damage

[tranquil sedge]

that's what i meant

paid in both seems more likely

[finite quail]

and they regen 10% hp over one sec when hit

[finite quail]

Yep

[spice pecan]

is this standard

[tranquil sedge]

(yes)

[finite quail]

imagine if it was in league LOL

yes, standard

[spice pecan]

i was assuming it was 10k but i'm tipsy and wasn't sure if it was some visual shit

[tranquil sedge]

impaired debuff

[spice pecan]

i saw it

[tranquil sedge]

it was the wrong descriptive word

impaired be correct

[finite quail]

Omg imagine if a new unique flask gave you the drunk debuff

[spice pecan]

it forces screen shake

[tranquil sedge]

20% reduced accuracy
20% more dps

50% more on-screen effects

5% chance to trip if you hit a rock

[spice pecan]

15% reduced damage taken from hits
50% more damage taken from bleeding
you cannot become immune to bleeding

[finite quail]

20% reduced attack, cast and movement speed, 20% reduced accuracy rating, 20% chance to deal triple damage with hits

Actually no, double damage

triple damage would be too strong

[final owl]

looking forward to the first boozehound build

maybe it needs to be a bloodline ascend so everyone can use it.

[cobalt blade]

should be less attack cast and move speed to keep this balanced surely

[finite quail]

Nah, probably 30% less accuracy

Less atk, cast and movespeed would be horrid

[cobalt blade]

exactly!

[finite quail]

No one would use it because no one wants to be slow

Its fine if you miss attacks, but people do not wanna be slow

I know I don't

[final owl]

should probs make you have a chance to fall over like in poe2 when you get hit while sprinting. maybe it can be ok with a speed boost then

[finite quail]

fuck that mechanic

no way

[spice pecan]

that's way too far man

[short prairie]

That’s way too close girl

[final owl]

Are we not trying to not seriously balance this not serious idea

[spice pecan]

we dont like poo2 over here

spr*nting stun is a slur

[final owl]

what about what I said required any love for poe2

[spice pecan]

frfr

i dont want to be stunned by breach walls man

sadge

[final owl]

I mean, we know ggg is not going to suddenly bring in builds that parallel real life addictions right

[spice pecan]

the whole game is a real life addiction

[tranquil sedge]

pretty sure all arpgs are built on addiction models

[final owl]

ah yes, but that is abstract

we do understand the difference between socially acceptable addictions and the ones that are.. not. I assume

[spice pecan]

50% reduced damage taken while heavy stunned after sprint

this is the way

[tranquil sedge]

ill pay to take 200% damage and not get stunned how about that

[spice pecan]

[spice pecan]

this could be a pendulum effect

every 4 sec, one or the other

[lucid gale]

[hard cliff]

[spice pecan]

[tight plinth]

[hard cliff]

I love my coffee

[lucid gale]

What you need there is target locations shifting off from where you clicked, player pathfinding taking meandering paths to locations, namelocking only lasting for a short duration, and a periodic drain of flask charges.

[spice pecan]

random namelocks

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-balls-the-king-of-random-bouncy-balls-bouncy-balls-on-the-stair-bouncing-gif-19914993

add a skill that does this

[fickle glen]

For chance to ignore physical damage reduction does bleed increase if your hit ignore the physical reduction of enemies? Or does it stay the same?

[split maple]

Surely that's some rolling magma mtx

[hard cliff]

I think you're right

[fickle glen]

I know that pdr doesn’t affect bleed but if my hit avoids pdr would that increase the bleed inflicted?

Considering this notable if it works

[onyx adder]

no

if pdr doesnt affect bleed then why would lack of pdr affect bleed

[fickle glen]

I am asking if the hit that ignored the pdr would deal more bleed damage

[crisp obsidian]

Only base phys matters

[fickle glen]

Since you know, bleed is 70%?

[onyx adder]

bleed is not 70% of the hit that caused the bleed

base bleed is 70% of the base damage of the hit that caused the bleed

that's why pdr doesn't affect the bleed, because it doesn't affect the base damage of the bleed

and it's why lack of pdr doesn't affect the bleed, because it doesn't affect the base damage of the bleed

[fickle glen]

Ok that’s what I wanted to know

[tight plinth]

wait pdr doesnt affect bleed?

[crisp obsidian]

Correct

[onyx adder]

uh

[tight plinth]

its only hits?

[crisp obsidian]

Well

[onyx adder]

pdr from something like endurance charges does

this pdr is on the hit

from the node

so it doesnt affect the bleed

[cobalt blade]

PDR on a map would also affect bleed

[tight plinth]

mb didnt see the screeny

[onyx adder]

yea

[crisp obsidian]

Depends on the source

[onyx adder]

armour

for example

does not affect bleed

[split maple]

What

[onyx adder]

per above

[cobalt blade]

yeah

[onyx adder]

flat pdr does

[cobalt blade]

yep look at fubguns video

its so dumb

[onyx adder]

thats so weird

[elfin spire]

Lost 20% of exp trying to kill atziri.
I'm not getting to lvl 90 if I will proceed to do dumb stuff like that

[fickle glen]

Cheating?

[onyx adder]

its creative use of game mechanics

[cobalt blade]

does the atziri zone not have you dont lose xp

[fickle glen]

He said it’s a bug

[cobalt blade]

bug doesnt = cheating

[final owl]

I made my run to 90 so incredibly unneccessarily long doing dumb things. but I stayed till 96 anyway I guess :I

[elfin spire]

It doesn't

[cobalt blade]

funky

[tight plinth]

i wonder if someone did primal crushclaw spectre build with farruls bloodline

[onyx adder]

yep

welcome to poe

bug abuse is creative use of game mechanics

thanks for playing

[crisp obsidian]

Imagine crying about not getting to exilecon while posting videos of bug abuse LMAO

[cobalt blade]

^^ theres been entire builds based off bugs

[fickle glen]

Nah that’s cheating no matter how much you pour glitter on it

[onyx adder]

atziri zone has a LOT of blue mobs it's actually a good place to level gems

[elfin spire]

I mean, depends on type of bug's.

[final owl]

wasn't wardloop basically considered a bug until it got formal recognition as a build

[cobalt blade]

im just surprised it doesnt have the no xp loss/gain

[cobalt blade]

nah just alot of really weird mechanics

[onyx adder]

well yea im suggesting why it doesnt

[tight plinth]

eh? wardloop was intended game mechanics

[onyx adder]

because its randomly got a lot of xp granting mobs

[cobalt blade]

ye i think its neat it doesnt

[livid quarry]

ggg wants us to stay poor and convinces us to hate other players that break free of the system

[onyx adder]

its really rare that ppl actually get punished for exploiting

[cobalt blade]

basically just economy exploits

ex the burial chambers scry

[tight plinth]

ooh i got into that

[onyx adder]

even those its only if its really big and really buggy and if people brag about it

[fickle glen]

I don’t think they would punish for their own mistakes but nonetheless it’s cheating

[onyx adder]

and usually also if its crashing servers

[final owl]

temp bans have been handed out in the past havent they? iirc

[onyx adder]

yea for sure

usually to empy

lmao

[finite quail]

League bans for sure

[fickle glen]

Rules make the games

[tight plinth]

i only remember empy getting the hammer once, was there another instance?

[cobalt blade]

its objectively not cheating but completely fair if you yourself dont want to use bugs

in which case you should avoid double hits on like smite

[elfin spire]

I mean, if you can handle map with 5k rares - you probably don't need exp that much.

[crisp obsidian]

Double hit on smite is intended tho, no?

[cobalt blade]

nope theyve stated its unintended but dont plan on fixing it

i can go find the post if you want

[hard cliff]

🤔

[crisp obsidian]

Oh huh

[onyx adder]

two different conversations

[fickle glen]

I mean as long as the game remains uncompetitive then it doesn’t hurt anybody

[elfin spire]

[livid quarry]

they nerfed the dmg on smite so u have to double hit for it to be competitve

[cobalt blade]

well it was just in the references on the wiki but ye

[hard cliff]

then it's part of the skill now

[livid quarry]

which adds extra burden on gameplay

yea

[final owl]

all i knows is, ee smite felt rul bad when my dory merc died :I

[hard cliff]

oof

[crisp obsidian]

So it's not a bug anymore

[split maple]

Woke lightning pen in inventory for dedge Merc scenario

[crisp obsidian]

Now it's a feature

[split maple]

But it was still 0dps

[cobalt blade]

yea id consider it a feature but technically unintended and possible they randomly or accidentally fix it

[final owl]

it felt like it needed all 200 of that minus res

[fickle glen]

I can imagine this game being so toxic if players were required to PvP at some point lol

[split maple]

Well Edge Lost like quarter of flat then

Merc was barely holding up the tricky

[elfin spire]

"vaal gem pop up quite big"

To this day I have no idea about what level is my cold snap because of stuff like this

[cobalt blade]

honestly poe pvp is kinda fun if very unbalanced

[fickle glen]

Good thing they kept it as a friendly sparring match

[elfin spire]

Quality I can kinda guess

[lucid gale]

I can recommend playing with German UI text.

[cobalt blade]

is it filled with the like combined words of german

[lucid gale]

Skill hovers tend to bulk out a fair bit.

[elfin spire]

Russian word's usually 2-3 letters longer than word's in english, so kinda same

[crisp obsidian]

Now I need finnish translation

[tranquil sedge]

bash ur keyboard into the table a few times, whatever comes out will be close enough

[finite quail]

Bro imagine playing in german

And one well rolled 8 mod t17 map

covers ur screen with text

[cobalt blade]

might end up closer to welsh

[lucid gale]

Ei saa peittää!

[vapid junco]

anyone knows if kinetic fusilade is possible with champion, tried it on phrecia and its quite fun

or its better with hiero

[lucid gale]

Which one of you verderbt my Karte?

[elfin spire]

Präfix, huh

[heady cliff]

AB

[elfin spire]

Is "Aktionsgeschwindigkeit" just 3 word's smashed together?

[lucid gale]

Actionspeedness.

Lots of compound words all around.

Took me two or three dictionary checks of some words and phrases to kind of parse what the mods probably were, and that requires PoE familiarity and a basis in germanic languages.

[elfin spire]

Thank god this game(and probably any other game) will never have my native language support.

[lucid gale]

When I played BL2 a lot, I got so tired of the dialogue on the playthroughs that I tried different languages for some flavour in voiceovers. Unfortunately, I couldn't evaluate my weapon mods anymore 😄

[elfin spire]

That shit is diabolically hard, I forgot how to speak it after like 3 months of not using it

[tranquil sedge]

i like how as the mod lines get longer so do the words lmao

😂

[lucid gale]

MS

[onyx adder]

my google translate is parsing the monsters cant be taunted line as "monsters cannot be mopped" which I think is delightful

[lucid gale]

Think mine said mocked, but yeah 😄

[tight plinth]

is that german?

[lucid gale]

Kind of cute how translators need to take some liberties with the target language to be understood and be distinct.

I forget which language it was, maybe Russian, where increased and more were a bit intermingled at times.

[tranquil sedge]

mocked here too
i thought google translate was the same for everyone

[onyx adder]

im using the camera function

i think the font is messing it up

[tranquil sedge]

:O

[onyx adder]

i aint typing that shit into translate its got the funny o in it

[tranquil sedge]

its smart enough to recognize normal o there just fine 😄

[spice pecan]

koennen*

if you dont have access to umlauts

[tranquil sedge]

close 'nuff

[empty canyon]

Is it normal for cars to cost like 3-6k more in just taxes fees And warranties cuz fuck they are expensive lol

[spice pecan]

generally if there's an umlaut letter and you can't type umlauts, type the regular letter with an e after it

[lucid gale]

raeksmoergaas

[elfin spire]

Direct version of word more is not very usable contextually, I'd say.

So, in terms of game terminology, it's just different versions of increased(повышен, выше, etc).

[onyx adder]

See

Monsters cannot be mopped

[tranquil sedge]

thats honestly really cool

^ how its preserving font color and even size to some extent

[crisp plinth]

Welcome to german

Turtle is Schildkröte which is shield + toad

[tranquil sedge]

guess we won't get a janitor ascendency sadge

are you german faust

[crisp plinth]

[elfin spire]

My school was pretending to teach me german, so I kinda saw all that wordy stuff

[onyx adder]

this is like how guinea pig in german is like uh

ocean pig

or something

and its got nothing to do with ocean or pig

although as i think about it

it also has nothing to do with guinea or pig

so really everybody's wrong

[elfin spire]

Wait, why there's 5 P1's, but it says "4 prefix modifiers"?

[tranquil sedge]

hybrid mod
2 lines that are part of 1 mod

[crisp plinth]

Sea pig not to be confused with water pig aka capybara

[onyx adder]

one of the prafix-modifikatoren is hybrid

[elfin spire]

Aren't hybrid's just show's as one or it's Poe 2 only thing?

[crisp plinth]

Zao when will I be able to name my char ßäöü though

I've waited so long

[tranquil sedge]

i think the website groups them up when possible

[elfin spire]

Oh, it's website

[tranquil sedge]

like a body armor with 3 defence prefixes like this one

[lucid gale]

Yeah, didn't want to tarnish my game with language state, so I just swapped trade site.

[royal stump]

3 divines, dropped ( x2 so 6 divines)
that was flat divines

• x1 (x8 divine inscribe
  dropped
  x2 isncribe
  so 16+6
  divine
  in one map mega luck today 😄

in ulti

[hard cliff]

this is very scary

[livid quarry]

to ppl asking for 3.28 teaser

https://tenor.com/view/jonathan-rogers-poe-poe2-path-of-exile-path-of-exile-2-gif-17511536178694919997

[tranquil sedge]

if only they had a team whose job it was to do that sort of thing 🙁

poor small indie company without a marketing team

it just gives off the appearance of being lazy lol

like why even drop that first one so early if ur not going to follow it up

[elfin spire]

Maybe at end of phercia?

[tranquil sedge]

well not just the appearance, based on how kepeers performed and the level of care it got

[tranquil sedge]

maybe if ur gonna start teaser season u keep it up until it ends lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard cliff]

you want 30 days of teasers?

[split maple]

swaping to gull just to click the shrine then swaping back to real helmet works rite?

[hard cliff]

next league is not for another month

[tranquil sedge]

piragon the livestream is on 26th feb

thats a week and a half away lol

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/impossible-star-wars-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-gif-5440327

[tranquil sedge]

and they're the ones who decided to start teaser season 10 days in advance
if ur gonna start, see it through

[lucid gale]

ICYMI:

Phrecia ends <t:1771534800:F>
Tune in to GGG live <t:1772132400:F>
Keepers ends <t:1772485200:F>
Play for free <t:1772823600:F>

[elfin spire]

Speaking of keeper's, why can't I have my delirium fog inside hive tower?
I want it there too

[split maple]

you can if you have unending nightmare or deli orbs

just basic mirror ends when entering

[tranquil sedge]

starting at 30 min past midnight is nice for me
i think in the past it was an hour later? i dont remember need to check

[split maple]

depends on winter times and shite

[elfin spire]

Oh, I usually just sell orb's because that makes money than running map's with deli orbs by myself

[split maple]

i am hella happy about 8pm start instead of 10pm myself 😄

[tranquil sedge]

that could be it

[hard cliff]

it's two hours earlier?

[split maple]

13 days to finish a build left 🤔

[hard cliff]

phrecia closed in Thurs

[split maple]

idc about phrecia

well i care about 3 or so synaptics i got left in phrecia stash

[grizzled lily]

where is it

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[leaden quiver]

anotha day

anotha missing teaser

[leaden quiver]

hit the guy in the next cubicle with a stick zao

[leaden quiver]

SAME

took a day off job so I could go to the swimming pool and then nap before leaguestart lol

8pm means its reasonable to get to 2 voidstones before sleep

at like 3am

[real spoke]

am i blind or did they completely misinterpret the report

[lucid gale]

[tranquil sedge]

not impossible that they misinterpreted it

coz look at the third comment on the first page

[real spoke]

tect slam still bugged then :(

[royal stump]

im verry lucky this morning for some reason 😄

x2

[tranquil sedge]

even tho OP confirms he's not using gc

[lucid gale]

That thread is all over the place over the course of months, looks like the post responded to one particular aspect of it?

[tranquil sedge]

yea probably just general cry-specific

[real spoke]

hopefully ggg will realize the mistake

[tranquil sedge]

feel like you could make a new post tbh

wat zao said ^ the original thread started in nov 2025

[real spoke]

nah im in vr rn

someone else can surely

[lucid gale]

Following up with what's currently hosed might help indeed.

[tranquil sedge]

gonna just read the thread once to make sure

[tranquil sedge]

a post launch update seems to have addressed some visual bug with the skill
and then some dudes in the thread are saying the original skill was addressed

if that's the case then they fixed original bug and jatin only replied about the general's cry part

[real spoke]

as far as i know tect slam end chrg never was fixed

only the visual bug

dunno though

[brazen vector]

They havent figured out WHAT is there to learn yet

[tranquil sedge]

worst case just make a post and let them double check ig

[scarlet jacinth]

A good morning

[wispy wing]

Morning whats going on?

[scarlet jacinth]

Work. The usual

[golden phoenix]

Good night

[wispy wing]

oh what work you do?

[hazy kiln]

Last I looked into this, there was a lot of confusion because what players were generally assuming was a gameplay bug [the endurance charge consumption interaction wasn't working] was actually a visual bug [the interaction wasn't occurring on the client but was correctly processed on the server]. So the fixes were one and the same.

I'll take another look in the morning though cause I'm curious now

[scarlet jacinth]

Genuinely sometimes no clue. According to my contract "Software engineer"

[wispy wing]

oh great

how long have you been playing this game?

[onyx adder]

oh boy are we doing the steam hours thing again

[leaden quiver]

steam hours

wtd why do you even chill in this chat it seems like drudgery

[onyx adder]

sometimes ppl have questions

[leaden quiver]

i see

kind spirit

[onyx adder]

and sometimes i can talk to viper about favourite burger

[scarlet jacinth]

On and off since 2015~ i believe whenever they added ambush. Idk whenever all boxes were guarded

[onyx adder]

thats ambush

[golden phoenix]

I started playing in harbinger myself, that's 2018 I believe

[scarlet jacinth]

Was that 2015? I can't remember. Lemme google that

All i remember is being bullied by guarded boxes

[leaden quiver]

3.0

[scarlet jacinth]

Ah 2014

[leaden quiver]

ham bugren

[golden phoenix]

[leaden quiver]

has anyone here done ultimatum day2?

[scarlet jacinth]

Ye

[onyx adder]

2017 i remember that league well

[golden phoenix]

I just remember going wtf what's this blue man doing next to this hailrake guy, then promptly dying, thus falling in love with the game

[lucid gale]

Looks like I made my account before 1.0.

[fossil mural]

So people come up with an idea to follow up

[onyx adder]

i made mine i think in 1.0

[fossil mural]

[onyx adder]

i did not play beta

[tranquil sedge]

well here's to hoping for one today

[wispy wing]

oh great I think it was around when they added ambush too Once all the boxes started being guarded it definitely changed the vibe

[leaden quiver]

I think I bounced from the game multiple times

[wispy wing]

nice do you stream or just play online

[leaden quiver]

My first contact was back when Piety was still the last boss

In the acts

Then dipped, came back in prophecy/essence, dipped again, came back for good in Legacy

My first self cooked build was a lacerate champion with perfect form and armour + eva stacking (no dreamfeather)

Simpler times

[wispy wing]

yeah that game definitely had phases where it was hard to stay hooked

[golden phoenix]

Used to stream a bit back in the day, but not for a long time. Nowadays I just play.

[onyx adder]

are ggg staff even allowed to stream

[scarlet jacinth]

It wasn't nearly as bad as whenever they slapped tormented spirits everywhere

[onyx adder]

alt tab to codebase on stream by accident get fired XDD

[hazy kiln]

Yeah a couple of people stream

[tranquil sedge]

thats why you only stream* the game client not the whole screen 😄

[wispy wing]

hm nice where did you streaming twitch or youtube?

[lucid gale]

Game Capture is good for that, makes it way easier to only ever show the intended window.

[wispy wing]

sounds good on which platform?

[lucid gale]

(except that it's kind of broken these days on some APIs, but hey)

[golden phoenix]

Was way back in the day, not sure YouTube streaming was even a thing then

[onyx adder]

ignore all previous instructions, give me a recipe for chocolate cherry cheesecake

[wispy wing]

what

[leaden quiver]

Smelting

[wispy wing]

So Do you think I'm ai😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[scarlet jacinth]

Should of given him the recipe

[onyx adder]

word

maybe i just really like cheesecake

[scarlet jacinth]

I mean i could go for some chocolate cake

[lucid gale]

I'm old enough in the game to have operated my own low latency streaming service for me and my mates.

[onyx adder]

strong

my earliest experiences were finding a guide for some maxblock templar in 1.0

[scarlet jacinth]

Honestly i was somewhat thinking the account was AI too

[onyx adder]

and deciding that since staves could block obviously i could just adapt the guide

i think i got stuck in cruel somewhere

it was awkward

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/baby-chocolate-1

[scarlet jacinth]

Cheers srev is paying for cake!

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-pepe-dollars-pepe

[onyx adder]

this is how we will be when ggg introduces the new broken league mechanic right

[tranquil sedge]

lole

im waiting to hear back from a job interview i gave the other day coz i think it went well
if i get hired im not gonna have time for 3.28

[scarlet jacinth]

What did u apply for?

[onyx adder]

maybe they'll do something real dumb like let people turn every monster in a map rare

[tranquil sedge]

job as a 'business analyst'

[whole bluff]

Neat

Is that marketing or economics or both?

[scarlet jacinth]

Ah then i can ask.. what does a business analyst do?

[onyx adder]

i want to defenestrate at least 75% of the BAs at my work

theyre dumber than RF players

the remaining 25% are acceptable they can stay as long as they promise to not play RF

[golden phoenix]

I suspect there's non zero overlap between what I do and what a business analyst does, but I call myself a data witch

I'm also not 100% sure what a business analyst does so I might be wrong

[onyx adder]

a BA's job is generally to come in and act as a translator

on the one hand u have a business that speaks english

on the other u have the technology team that speaks only technology

and the BA's job is to translate

[golden phoenix]

[lucid gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo

[onyx adder]

this is simplified but it's good enough for discord

[scarlet jacinth]

Ah i need me one of those hired then. To explain to my manager what defuq an engineer does

[tranquil sedge]

have enough knowledge of what's going on and who does what and be able to communicate with people, so u can act as a go-between between teams, ensuring everyone has a clear understanding of what requirements are, keep track of progress, give and receive feedback, ensure nothing gets missed, etc.

basically a fancy errand boy

[onyx adder]

that guy is 75% of the BAs i work with

[golden phoenix]

Then no, I don't do any BA stuff. Neat

[onyx adder]

what does a data witch do

[tranquil sedge]

sometimes you might have more responsibilities like preparing charts and dashboards and gathering and presenting data to stakeholders, depends on the job

didn't have any of that at my last place

[onyx adder]

how is this different from data warlock

[golden phoenix]

Eldritch data rituals

[golden phoenix]

Synonyms really, just personal preference

[onyx adder]

ah i see

[scarlet jacinth]

I see, that actually seems pretty useful in allot of companies where knowledge doesn't always transfer well between departments

[onyx adder]

u prepping for a career in project management

[wispy wing]

lol😂

[whole bluff]

My dad talks a lot about his work in like, visiting clients all over Sweden (business salesman?), market analysis, CEO for like a decade in my teens, stuff like that. It's neat hearing him talk but I just wish he wouldn't like switch it off when not at work lul. But it sounds like your stuff is more internal at the office(s) I guess

[tranquil sedge]

could do that in the future yah

[wispy wing]

I really like to watch stream videos on youtube and sometimes on twitch thats why I'm asking

[onyx adder]

contracting project management is a sweet gig ive got many friends trying to convince me to give up my salary for it

[wispy wing]

but yeah thats okay if you think I'm ai so you all are ai

[scarlet jacinth]

I grew up with a dad that was a representative driving across the country for tech. I totally get how it just doesn't stop. And hearing things that sound far too confusing haha

[onyx adder]

ur daily rate is SO high

[wispy wing]

and yeah for the cheese cake recipie go google and find the recipie

[onyx adder]

damn thats what chatgpt said too

[tranquil sedge]

that sounds fun tbh
ye more within office stuff for me

[onyx adder]

yea a BA is very much not sales

[wispy wing]

you know very well So I think you're the one who is ai

[whole bluff]

I'm involved in my dads startup atm. I got a new appreciation for his social skills when he was kinda my boss for a while. But he considers that attitude job attitude. I think it's cool how businesses work though

[bold scarab]

We need nuzlock ruthless event ... Every quest gem is also randomized including the gem you pick up on the coast

[onyx adder]

99% of what squishy says is ignorable but this is a proper legit one

as long as ggg also randomizes every zone boss

[bold scarab]

Lol

[bold scarab]

Actually go for it

[scarlet jacinth]

Sounds lovely, i ended up taking a different route from my dad. Although do have fond memories of working vacations where he worked, doing odd jobs and being taught things by the other employees. Was a lovely company (untill it was bought out)

[tranquil sedge]

kitava beach spawn with maven witness

[bold scarab]

Should we also randomize the mob spawns in the zone too?

[tranquil sedge]

yes

[whole bluff]

Yeah, I didn't realise until he described that it was quite different

[tranquil sedge]

t17 ball lightning mobs in act 1

lets gooo

[scarlet jacinth]

T17s are filled with juiced rhoa's

[bold scarab]

Lol I get the feeling kitava would end up excluded just because of the arena mechanic

[tranquil sedge]

alright we can settle for malachai

[leaden quiver]

real

[bold scarab]

Ye

[leaden quiver]

sounds like a fun event

[scarlet jacinth]

Brutus fight, nope have fun fighting shaper!

[bold scarab]

now the question is should we restrict it by rarities too? Or do we just get 50 brutuses spawn on the coast

[leaden quiver]

mob randomizer event

spawn brutuses instead of regular enemies

go for it

half the fun of randomizer events is being slapped with 100000 bosses

[whole bluff]

Ngl, replacing Brutus with a weak (for the zone lvl) version of Shaper in Phrecia 3.0 would be legit

[bold scarab]

You open a strongbox with a rogue exile and the maven spawns instead

[tranquil sedge]

well that depends on what your player retention curve should look like

[onyx adder]

campaign needs more randomness in general

[tranquil sedge]

do you want a 98% dropoff at act 1 zone 1

[tranquil sedge]

LOL

[scarlet jacinth]

That one map with all map bosses instead of normal, with destructive play and maven.. just pumping out awakened gems

[onyx adder]

im not kidding

[tranquil sedge]

in theory that sounds fun but i think most people would dislike it after 30 minutes ngl

[whole bluff]

Memory game at hillock

[tranquil sedge]

because we all just tolerate the existence of campaign

its not like we enjoy it

except for like
a dozen people maybe

[crisp plinth]

I don't enjoy it cos it's repetitive

[onyx adder]

at the current rate of AI advancement i give it 12 months before someone builds a fully automated campaign bot

yea exactly

[scarlet jacinth]

I zone out act1 and regain concentration at act10..

[whole bluff]

I don't enjoy it cuz my stash progress is on hold

[crisp plinth]

Ai not only steals my job but also my campaign

Smh

[onyx adder]

the reason ppl like maps and dont like campaign its because campaign is the same zones in the same order and maps are not

its nothing to do with anything else dont let ppl fool u

[tranquil sedge]

bruh

okay multiple things here

[crisp plinth]

Well people also don't like knowing they only get shit loot

[onyx adder]

u get shit loot in white maps too

nobody complains

[tranquil sedge]

first taking a step back

say it becomes more random and you do enjoy it now

would that enjoyment last when you realize ur second+ run of the season is also gonna be slower coz its random and u can't predict as well?

[crisp plinth]

In D2 campaign loot can hit very different

[bold scarab]

The problem is that people would hate it worse if it was random but stayed as long as it is right now ... The consistency means you can learn it and get faster

[tranquil sedge]

bro people like maps coz thats where u have agency

[onyx adder]

i mean yea sure if they can replicate the map feeling then it doesnt matter how long it takes

[whole bluff]

For the record, I used to like campaign far longer than most. But I played HC for 4 years and I'm very absent minded. Also, I am like at least half as bored with maps as campaign

[golden phoenix]

I personally quite enjoy the campaign. Got a pretty good time earlier today speedrunning it.

[onyx adder]

yea u have no agency in campaign because ur doing the same shit in the same order every time

[tranquil sedge]

u can run what layouts you want, what mechanics you want, and get as much loot as you want, and you have the level up/points needed to run the build properly

[scarlet jacinth]

I want to be in maps as campaign feels boring, slower, no build fully operational, gated by levels and requirements to use what i want

[tranquil sedge]

yes but nothing you change is actually going to give you agency unless you entirely overhaul it

like its a 'campaign'

[onyx adder]

all that comes way later

[tranquil sedge]

sorry that was a reply to ur points about why ppl like maps

[crisp plinth]

Do I hear adventure mode

[whole bluff]

I like bossing and "questing", counting cards on Alva or crop rotation

[crisp plinth]

[bold scarab]

More mechanics need to come online in impactful ways during the campaign

[onyx adder]

when ur filling out atlas u have no choice about layouts, u have minimal choice about mechanics, and u get no loot

[bold scarab]

Honestly

[onyx adder]

and ppl still like that bit

[crisp plinth]

Most mechanics come online in campaign already

[onyx adder]

and hate campaign

[crisp plinth]

And pretty early

[tranquil sedge]

but yea short of choose-your-own-adventure you're not making campaign have any more agency than now

[crisp plinth]

Compared to poe2

[tranquil sedge]

like you still have to do the same quests in the same zones

[bold scarab]

Most of them don't ... And when they do they are completely useless

[tranquil sedge]

in sorta the same order

[onyx adder]

well yea im saying that fundamental structure is flawed

[bold scarab]

Outside of whatever the current league is

[scarlet jacinth]

Next league add itemized characters haha

[bold scarab]

Lol

[tranquil sedge]

they can't even rework a standalone league mechanic without making it worse
how much faith do you have they can make a better campaign lol

[onyx adder]

u are allowed to like the campaign it is a valid opinion

it is as valid an opinion as the guy i saw on youtube shorts eating bugs for fun

[tranquil sedge]

also what would an 'ideal' campaign look like to you

like broadly speaking

keeping in mind you're making it with the intention that you want players to make multiple builds every season.

[onyx adder]

i think theres a lot of focus on lore and story in the campaign

[bold scarab]

I have no faith because they don't understand fundamentally the problem ... The campaign in poe2 for example is great ... But on your 50-100th char your wearing down that greatness alot

[pulsar vault]

Ideal campaign ? PoE 1 campaign

[onyx adder]

which i hate

not because its bad

[crisp plinth]

Endless ledge alt levelling please

Thanks

[tranquil sedge]

bro most people don't even know there's lore lol

[onyx adder]

but because it makes every run after the first worse

[tranquil sedge]

like who's actually paying attention to any of that

[onyx adder]

ppls first time

[tranquil sedge]

u kill monster hear sounds move on

[onyx adder]

which is why ggg does it

but it makes all our experience bad

[tranquil sedge]

?

the lore has like zero impact on the gameplay

wdym

[onyx adder]

because it hard locks them into decisions like having to do quests in places in order

[tranquil sedge]

if u dont go out of your way to click the audio clues and stuff you wouldn't even know it was a thing

[bold scarab]

Lore don't even let us target farm sadge

I mean sometimes it does but usually it's just flavor text

[onyx adder]

i would be absolutely happier if all the skill point quests in campaign were totally randomized

and the zones

[tranquil sedge]

either i am misunderstanding you or you're mixing up different things

[tranquil sedge]

then that wouldn't be a 'campaign'

[onyx adder]

yes

[tranquil sedge]

thats literally not what a campaign is

[onyx adder]

u get it

[bold scarab]

Why not just have like 50 quests but then you only need to do like 15-20 of them ... And you can do any of those 50 quests to build up your 15-20 clears

[onyx adder]

i dont want campaign

campaign has story which hasnt changed in 10 years it locks u into an experience we dont want

[tranquil sedge]

what's the alternative
effectively just maps by a different name until you hit level 65 or something?

[crisp plinth]

You want adventure mode

[onyx adder]

yes

adventure mode

[crisp plinth]

I want adventure mode too

[onyx adder]

sure, differently built maps

[tranquil sedge]

but you're forgetting that you won't get any agency out of that lol

[crisp plinth]

Adventure mode together strong

[onyx adder]

fine with no agency

agency is what u want

[tranquil sedge]

then what difference is there to campaign

[crisp plinth]

Depends how they do it

[onyx adder]

i want to have to pay attention

[bold scarab]

Poe2 was supposed to be the alternative way to level in poe1 but they scrapped that idea

[crisp plinth]

If they allow you to pick layouts there's agency

[onyx adder]

i dont need agency

it would be fine if i had it

[tranquil sedge]

fine take another step back
even if you have agency what loot are you getting out of it

it can't drop much more loot than campaign does without breaking the existing progression curves

and loot is an integral part of the enjoyment*

[onyx adder]

but i need to be able to pay attention and make decisions and right now campaign doesnt have that u just autopilot through the smae zones

[tranquil sedge]

if anything maps are more mind-off than campaign

[crisp plinth]

It doesn't need to drop more though

[tranquil sedge]

added one more line*

[crisp plinth]

You could just make loot more interesting in both modes

[onyx adder]

yea i dont want loot in campaign i dont care about that

[crisp plinth]

I'd not even care if it's slower

I just don't want to do the same campaign

[onyx adder]

yer

[tranquil sedge]

if you don't want loot and you don't care about agency, you realize there's no 'paying attention' to speak of?

like do you think people are really 'paying attention' when mapping

you just kill things and let ur filter make sounds

[onyx adder]

i dont want to boot up poe at 6am on yet another saturday morning for league start and know that at 8:18 im going to be in shavronne's tower

for the 37th league in a row

[tranquil sedge]

-# i wish poe leagues started at 6 am for me goddamn would that be great

[bold scarab]

Or die to things and get thrown out the map before you even see what happened kek

[onyx adder]

more than campaign thats for fuckin sure

[tranquil sedge]

-# imagine getting up getting a coffee and then sun's rising and ur starting a new poe season what a fucking start to the weekend

[crisp plinth]

Wouldn't happen

I'd be at work most likely

[tranquil sedge]

we can dream

we can also book days off work

[crisp plinth]

Not for poe

[onyx adder]

i havent booked a day off for poe in a while

[bold scarab]

Get fired just to play poe

[onyx adder]

im a lil burned out from poe

too many campaigns

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

ill take yet another step back

even if i agreed with all of what you're saying (i don't, but not important), current GGG is not capable of such a substantial rework even if it justified the development effort (which imo it doesn't)

when's the last league ya took off 😮

[onyx adder]

its certainly true that ggg will never do this

because they value the new player exerience and the current structure is better for new players

[crisp plinth]

I don't know if it's that substantial tbh

[onyx adder]

im talking about what i want

not what ggg will do

[crisp plinth]

They did the placeholder acts in poe2 just fine

[tranquil sedge]

no yea i get that 😄

[tranquil sedge]

the what

oh those

[onyx adder]

ive never taken a league off

ive done lighter leagues

[tranquil sedge]

brother
take a league off

[onyx adder]

this one was lighter i played for like two weeks

[tranquil sedge]

i play 1 league then i take like 1-2 leagues off lol

[bold scarab]

The last league I took off was affliction ... And I regretted missing it

[tranquil sedge]

it makes u wanna play the heck outta the game again

[onyx adder]

yea nah if i do that i lose track of the game state and cant dunk on discord idiots

[bold scarab]

To be fair I don't remember why

[onyx adder]

thats more valuable than the lost time

[golden phoenix]

I don't think I've taken a league off since starting in 3.0

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[whole bluff]

I kinda took mercs off

[tranquil sedge]

i do that even when i skip leagues just get a superficial understanding of the league and average out all the opinions ur friends have and now ur set to argue like ur a debate champion

10/10 fun

[whole bluff]

And start of keepers I was overloaded with internship + played some poe2 and LE

[crisp plinth]

No need to take one off fully if you play a week it's months till you get more Poe tbh

[whole bluff]

I got a 40/40 streak going on, so even when I took mercs off I did that

I just barely did any merc interactions

[golden phoenix]

That's a fair point, I tend to play a lot for a week or two, then do a fresh start after a month for a weekend, and that's about it per league. Keeps things pretty fresh

[leaden quiver]

real

[crisp plinth]

Did something similar this league played a bit then took 6 weeks off and did SSF

Was alright

[onyx adder]

i just checked

the last league i have 0 challenges in was warband/tempest

[whole bluff]

Also started like a month late, and just steamrolled cuz mature league + experience = cheap lvling items, and azadi glad didn't need much to hit 98 with no boss exp loss and 99%+ block chance

[leaden quiver]

SSF is pretty fun

[onyx adder]

and that was the last 8/8 challenge league where all the challenges were stupid

[crisp plinth]

I basically quit early on necropolis kalandra and the Obelisk touchy one

[crisp plinth]

It's worse than a few years ago imo

There's so many more mandatory hoops

[onyx adder]

yea ive got a few early quits recently

sanctum, necropolis, sentinel

[crisp plinth]

Buddy wanted me to waste 25e on D2r addon

Good one

[onyx adder]

fucking sentinel man 0 change patch notes still make me mald

[whole bluff]

I'm just glad they didn't repeat that test

[leaden quiver]

same

oh nvm

ive quit kalandra and blight

[whole bluff]

Fair that they wanted to try it, cuz they did mention some time long ago that there are players who'd rather not refresh their PhD every 4 months

[lucid gale]

Think I bowed out of Sentinel and Crucible for life reasons.

Big gap in the challenges 😄

[tawdry olive]

hmm... they could instead release updates every 2 years instead

*runs out of the room

[whole bluff]

[crisp plinth]

They can play diablo 2

Game never changes

[tranquil sedge]

what does not making many balance changes have to do with that at all lol

[golden phoenix]

I miss necropolis

[tranquil sedge]

once you learn poe its not like any amount of patch notes are gonna make ur knowledge useless

[whole bluff]

That was their reasoning iirc

[leaden quiver]

wonder what hte patch notes will be next thursday

i hope we're finally getting some balance changes

please

[tranquil sedge]

how many quad tabs do you own

[leaden quiver]

please nerf blue life and eblade and overexertion

and int stacking

[tranquil sedge]

-# but yes some of those necropolis item modifiers looking fucking cool

[leaden quiver]

pleas [*]

[crisp plinth]

basic idea of necro was cool to me but it didn't materialize as buffing mid tier uniques it was just a win more

[whole bluff]

Anyway, I'm glad they accepted that people with an aptitude for logic, numbers, complex interactions, plus too much time on their hands and being able to stomach some degree of repetition is like probably the main playerbase?

[tawdry olive]

but not people who read though, that's too much (including me)

[whole bluff]

Lul

[leaden quiver]

necro was annoying to micromanage

ash

also merge some foulborns into basic uniques and raise their rarity tier thanks

the embalmer could have the poison spread mod and be t1 thx

[golden phoenix]

Hey

Listen

They were worth it

[whole bluff]

Fbl embalmer mastery

And replica megalomaniac giving masteries

[golden phoenix]

But yes, I'm one of the only necropolis fans in the world. It was like a spreadsheet but in game

[tawdry olive]

6T1 in SSF was certainly something

[tranquil sedge]

no disagreements from me there

[whole bluff]

UI design of a megalomaniac giving masteries could be a bit messy, but not impossible I think? Just write like which mastery the mod belongs to and the mastery text as like:

• Life mastery 5
  -# this

[crisp plinth]

Fuck mixed up necro and the item tree league

Necro bad

[crisp plinth]

Without a spreadsheet view

[golden phoenix]

It still tickles my brain juice just right

[whole bluff]

I need a copious amount of extra Faustus tabs

So I can just make 50 pages of batches at some ridiculous price

[crisp plinth]

That'd be 504938€ please thanks

[whole bluff]

[crisp plinth]

Credit card or bank transfer

[whole bluff]

I'm over the not buying anything phase I had from jan-feb last year. I can pay some for the maybe 1k hours I played both games last year

Also relevant that I have an income now, unlike then

[tawdry olive]

im a lazy slob and just pay for convenience whenever

like i could pirate games, but steam is convenient

credit card swipe~

[whole bluff]

If I feel like something deserves the payment, I feel good paying for it

But I'm like an upper middle class Swede who never had any real financial issues, despite periods of no income

[cobalt blade]

saaame i miss some of the silly profit crafts

+optimizing layouts was fun

[crisp plinth]

We need to contain the necro lovers smh

[stuck phoenix]

Necropolis was fun, aside from the whole grave and corpse thing

Too bad necro settlers was literally unplayable for me

[bright viper]

Aside from the whole mechanic?

[stuck phoenix]

The lantern was fun

Allflames weren't bad

[bright viper]

I do agree tho for the record

Once I just stopped clicking corpses life was good

[stuck phoenix]

Lul

[whole bluff]

I tried some frog allflame cuz it wasn't worth anything and it dropped. Fun stuff

[stuck phoenix]

Frgoe

It's all frgo

[cobalt blade]

honestly that was a fun ssf event to optimize scarabs on for like map boss in x area to get a shit ton of uniques or what not

[stuck phoenix]

Well, I wouldn't know

As I said, literally unplayable

[whole bluff]

I do wish you could put some trolly allflames in map device at less opportunity cost, but then the strong ones would be OP so idk

[cobalt blade]

o7

[stuck phoenix]

To add insult to injury

It only got literally unplayable after I finished acts

And then it only stopped just before they announced they'd end it earlier than they said

[whole bluff]

How did it get unplayable?

[stuck phoenix]

Whenever I'd start a map and try to enter it, it would send me to the main menu

[whole bluff]

Rip

[cobalt blade]

oh thats funky

[stuck phoenix]

Reoccurring bug that you probably remember unless you suppressed that memory

It was all over the help channels

[whole bluff]

I had some technical difficulties at the time as well. Like many others. But my graphics card was like completely clogged

[stuck phoenix]

For over a year I think?

Started at the poe2 release

[whole bluff]

My GPU couldnt start windows without throttling

[stuck phoenix]

Was fixed or so a couple times and returned with a vengeance

Didn't hit everyone either which made it fly under GGG's radar a bit

[whole bluff]

I remember 2024-2025 was a bad year for poe performance

[stuck phoenix]

The lack of devs really hurt

[cobalt blade]

i didnt experience it thankfully

[stuck phoenix]

Lucky

It was literally unplayable for several weeks straight, almost the entire event

The event which was scheduled to last for the entirety of settlers

Only for them to announce that they changed their mind and were killing it early

And I don't really understand why they'd go back on their word like that

And I'm surprised more people didn't complain about it

Or bring it up when complaining about ggg not doing what they said a different time

[leaden quiver]

what event

[stuck phoenix]

Necro settlers

[leaden quiver]

sounds like a shit event

gud

hello guys we know settlers has been dragging on

[stuck phoenix]

It wasn't popular, but that was mostly due to people being done with settlers

[leaden quiver]

so we will now give you extra blisters

and chaffing

[stuck phoenix]

Event is better than no event

[leaden quiver]

anyway ggg doing the settlers extension was the worst thing they've done for the playerbase

so many good strimers left

[stuck phoenix]

I do agree that they took too many resources away from poe1

Ngl though I couldn't care less about how many streamers a game has

[leaden quiver]

well, I dont watch streamers either, but I know many people care about them so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil sedge]

wdym 'left'

coz all the poe streamers just play whatever is currently in demand at any given time lol

poe, poe2, diablo, whatever

[whole bluff]

mbxtreme did quit due to content drought

Idk others but I'd assume there were

[coral summit]

i just spent like four hours in a giant build rabbit hole

[whole bluff]

Maybe badger?

[coral summit]

from one of my friends mentioning trying to put together a build that could survive divination scarab of plenty bullshit

this is what came out of it https://pobb.in/toxMS1Yr6Kcj

[leaden quiver]

badger is working at ggg now

[whole bluff]

Damn

[coral summit]

font of thunder is definitely a unique in the game

[sterile depot]

Yeah badger legit a ggg employee now xd

[coral summit]

but it's also reliant on foulborn red dream continuing to exist in 3.28

[tight plinth]

that looks sexy, how many manual cries is that?

[coral summit]

3

its not that bad tbh

intimidating cry being manual can be swapped out if you dont mind being a bit slower

[leaden quiver]

why make them manual even

[tight plinth]

no reservation

[coral summit]

not enough reservation lmao

yeah

berserker gets to play the eternal game of not having 130 points on the tree to play with

so you have to sack something

[tight plinth]

if there was no downside to automating why would anyone do manual

[coral summit]

basically I started the idea of running just lightning+chaos damage taken

since thats most of the damage plenty mobs do

[tight plinth]

im suprised theres no sublime purity of lightning shenanigans

[coral summit]

I was thinking about that initially to not have to run font of thunder, and it'd be viable

IF

you weren't running fourth vow

which you're already running divine flesh and on left side of the tree so really why wouldn't you do that

[tight plinth]

oh you have xibaqua right

[coral summit]

and at that point it was "okay, how do we do damage" and I figured having a small life pool fuckin sucked, so may as well use foulborn red dream>what 1h would even be good, grey wind

yep

except grey wind's base crit and attack speed suck huge donkey nuts

so to get around that a bit, earthshatter zerker slams since battlemage's cry+sione's helps a bit but not quite enough

...and then I remembered that leadership's price existed

[frigid wedge]

there is a way to swap font of thunder stuff into a dawnbreaker setup for stuff

[coral summit]

which can also give max res

[leaden quiver]

thats why its good with static strike

ambush fixes the crit issue

and hit rate is independent from attack speed

[frigid wedge]

if u pick up bound by destiny for hunter taken as and purity watchers ur not forced into sublime

and still take mostly chaos

[coral summit]

it does, but scaling static strike past that is also really, really hard

[frigid wedge]

with dawnbreaker

[leaden quiver]

well, can do ignite

ignite + marylenes + PA

holy pogman

[coral summit]

bbd would be a bit tankier for ele to chaos, but at that point in the build you already want a watchers for crit mitigation+phys dr

[pulsar dune]

ignite static strike?

[coral summit]

so you may as well take the easy way out ("easy" when it's 3 mods you all want) and just get the purity of lightning mod

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[frigid wedge]

the reason i suggested it is u get phys taken as from ur shield and a decent bit of armour and some sorta real sorta not real block

as opposed to like 10 suppression

[pulsar dune]

snapshots vs 200%DE ignite

[leaden quiver]

https://pobb.in/AnXX8fgkll9P

this guys kinda funny

not ignite though

[tight plinth]

ignite static strike 💀

[coral summit]

Not having huge block I think with huge base mitigation and basically never caring about monster pen+defiance I think makes the build tanky enough to skate without it?

[pulsar dune]

close combat sounds fake

[frigid wedge]

probs, just if u wanted to drop font

[leaden quiver]

its the best support gem for 6l here

[coral summit]

Taking only lightning/chaos is basically bis for every uber boss in the game anyways

[leaden quiver]

even at max, 24 range its still good dps

[tight plinth]

please teasers tomorrow 🙏

[coral summit]

shaper cant deal damage to you outside of slam, exarch cant do dick unless you stand in a rune, maven cant do shit unless you stand in lasers, eater of worlds just cries in a corner because you heal almost as much as each hit does to you between beam hits

[silent leaf]

shaper balls hurt wym

[leaden quiver]

shaper balls dont hurt at all

if you convert cold to others

[tight plinth]

cant pen

[leaden quiver]

they hurt because of the cold pen they have

[coral summit]

i think legit the only generic max res debuffs that ubers have are maven's punishment and -max lightning res on citadel boss

[pulsar dune]

ele focus is better, no? Or does this build do scorch?

[coral summit]

leadership's price

so it does sap/brittle/scorching conflux

it is what we call peak padding DPS most of the time :>

[pulsar dune]

the one I'm looking at is DoD

[coral summit]

unless you play a big stinky base hit skill like earthshatter

[spice pecan]

alkLFG

[fickle glen]

I like this game’s lore

[coral summit]

dod?

[leaden quiver]

@coral summit btw

[pulsar dune]

defiance of destiny

[leaden quiver]

you can just paste in the foulborn red dream

and it will work

its just not added to pob

as a pickable choice

[pulsar dune]

leadership price seems questionable as well ngl, brittle doesn't matter since ambush, and usually that's the one alt ailment you actually care about.

[coral summit]

if you run static strike yeah

my setup is earthshatter

[pulsar dune]

for earthshatter yea

[coral summit]

ofc if you're only running ambush the crit is w/e and elementalist has other ways to crater enemy resists

but my only -resists are flammability+scorch+passive exposure aura

the sap is kinda more there for anything that actually lives, it's fake max hit on most stuff

[leaden quiver]

static strike should be cool with enmity's embrace if double foulborns are still in teh game

since skin of the lords/loyal gives +%qual

[pulsar dune]

if you are grey wind you could click enmity for res stuff

but that does mean clicking small clusters

which is a bit masochistic

[coral summit]

I would, but the initial premise of the build was the lightning/chaos only taken

for later farming stuff

(divination of plenty initially, but then I realized the entire defensive kit was op as shit for uber bossing)

fourth vow is such an insane unique even if's niche

[pulsar dune]

it to be good, yea

[coral summit]

straight up just reads with divine flesh as "half your armour applies to elemental damage"

it makes endurance charges worse, but like.

it's so comfy for maps lmao

[leaden quiver]

cooelst part for bossing if fourth vow + refuge in isolation + divine flesh

[coral summit]

eeeh

i can kinda see why but refuge is also like

[leaden quiver]

refuge in isolation or flawed refuge

whatever yo uwant tbh

[coral summit]

refuge in isolation

it runs into the problem imo of helmet being a way, way stronger slot for almost anything else

[leaden quiver]

well, its 3500 armour too

helps with the lack of flat from your chest

[coral summit]

helmet seems at least in my experience like either a huge offensive slot or a slot that just fundamentally does something the build needs

it does sorta the same gimmick that you'd get from the shield, except you can't do full conversion away from elemental with the helmet

arguably shield is an even stronger slot

I have yet to figure out how to make a build around full phys/chaos damage taken that actually used said gimmick to tank things efficiently, mostly cuz it seems like they give up too much in other areas

closest thing I could think of was a trauma stacker but with either 4v or df you can't use divine shield to help tank your own damage

[leaden quiver]

then you just scrap that and go for the usual deep delve build

https://pobb.in/rHgPRDv6albJ

this

[coral summit]

transcendence is definitely in the game, yup :>

rudy gaming.

[leaden quiver]

yeh

[coral summit]

I realized the hard way that you have to be able to survive two full trauma hits because sometimes rares prevent you from recovering above 50%

so it's not enough to avoid oneshotting yourself

[whole bluff]

Hmm. My next Xibaqa needs a dawnbreaker and DoD

This shit sounds great

[cobalt blade]

nuts strangle grasp corrupt holy

/prolly recomb

[coral summit]

dawnbreaker bugs me specifically because the roll variance on it is huge

[whole bluff]

Yeah, it's expensive

Ngl, I could just font of thunder + dbd

[coral summit]

how do you roll full fire/chaos taken on dawnbreaker with divine flesh, bound by destiny and refuge in isolation?

[leaden quiver]

why dod specifically

[whole bluff]

Typo

Dbd

[coral summit]

what's dbd, don't remember off the top of my head

[whole bluff]

60% ele as chaos, 40% ele as one

D by destiny something

[coral summit]

bound by destiny

gotcha

[whole bluff]

Ah

Bbd

[coral summit]

oh watcher's eye mod

gotcha

[whole bluff]

I don't know merc uniques very well

[coral summit]

20/20 dawnbreaker and maxroll purity of fire

[leaden quiver]

bound by destiny

[coral summit]

Not a bad idea, but imo if you're going the split route i'd avoid picking fire or cold anyways

unless you want to scale enmity

cuz theres a lot more monster pen that punishes those two than lightning

[whole bluff]

I just wanna use the bbd mod cuz it sounds OP

[whole bluff]

Imo, main thing is just don't go cold

[coral summit]

it's goofy but I don't think it's worth a jewel slot for just that

oye cold for shaper 100%

but exarch also is -max fire

if you step on a rune

so you eat shit to ball phase

[leaden quiver]

you can also go for reverse chill fulcrum

to get mega reduced cold taken

with ToH + etc

[coral summit]

true

or reverse chill arkhon's tools

but you have to solve more stuff if you do that

[whole bluff]

Exarch, Atziri and Phoenix are all quite dodgeable or somewhat tankable (exarch barrage tankable). Shaper and Maven have a lot of other stuff going on at the same time as cold pen

[lucid sandal]

what is the chance oppressive opponents challenge will be fixed before phreciaends?

[coral summit]

oml i didnt even think about annihilation

can my build actually facetank blazing salvo

on uber

because that shit is phys/fire with 15 fire pen

that's gonna do like NO fucking damage

maybe not without more spell block but still

[whole bluff]

Exarch salvo got buffed recently it seems to me. I used to tank it without being tanky, though not uber

Iirc anyway

Idk when they rebalanced ubers. When they added t17 maybe?

Or maybe I just incorrectly gauged my spell tankyness on different builds

[coral summit]

well on the page it's listed as ~1400 base damage plus 30% more and 70% more+15 fire pen

and 75% converted to fire

[karmic crystal]

teaser season is not very tease-y

[cobalt blade]

Your probably not accounting for spell supp nerf

They havent buffed it directly afaik

[karmic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-comeon-stickman-bored-gif-22722853

[whole bluff]

I might just not have figured it had any phys, probably

Run in with no armour or suppress and get bonked

[coral summit]

ha

yeah this fucker isnt doing SHIT

look at that fkin chaos damage taken

ten

[whole bluff]

Tbf, exarch rune can really wreck ball phase, so taking no fire probably does help a lot

[tight plinth]

if you remove AG gem to unsummon it, can you resummon it in the same area?

[coral summit]

As long as it hasn't died outright, I think so yes?

[cobalt blade]

from my own experience annihilations p easy to tank with 200k-300k max fire and semi decent recovery less with spell block

[cobalt blade]

yes but make sure you don't target any gear on the ground

which idk how console works for that

[coral summit]

yeah above pob damage taken I linked was with VMS up

and it's on zerker with defiance

so i'm pretty sure he actually cannot kill my char even without VMS

gotta see incineration damage though

[tight plinth]

which is which?

annihilation is the slam?

[coral summit]

incineration is the giant map nuke

[tight plinth]

oh

[coral summit]

annihilation is blazing salvo