1┃general

[soft perch]

Unaffected by ignite

[leaden quiver]

fulcrum?

[soft perch]

Ye it’s just slow as fuck

[leaden quiver]

yeah you just have to use a diff spell i guess xd

[crisp plinth]

Don't think that's true today

[soft perch]

Whispering ice damage is genuinely ok

It’s just rampy and slow

[icy zinc]

self cast whispering ice monka

[crisp plinth]

Yes ok is different than busted

[icy zinc]

i saw while channeling version

[soft perch]

Sure

For leaguestart numbers tho it’s not bad

[pulsar dune]

It's self cast single target CWC clear

[soft perch]

Although over time everyone is realising trying to get big damage out of a league starter is pointless

[crisp plinth]

There's also still a storm cap

[soft perch]

Fast and enough and then transitioning into a very good all rounder or a boss oneshotter is better

[leaden quiver]

its got a cubic growth with int its gotta be usable

[stable pumice]

Soo whats up with that ascendency?

[leaden quiver]

thats why u leaguestart slayer on everything

[soft perch]

Come back in 10 days

[stable pumice]

xD

[leaden quiver]

cyclone shockwave + frozen legion

[soft perch]

Or elementalist

[leaden quiver]

holer moler

[limber lance]

Scavenger from phrecia prolly going core

[leaden quiver]

elementalist gets to bite the curb next league

100%

[crisp plinth]

As I said usable is far from busted

Iron commander also is usable

There's just barely a reason to

[icy zinc]

elementalist with 3 large clusters that rolled primordial bond is too free

[leaden quiver]

iron commander goated

replica especially

holer moler str stack

[crisp plinth]

Enjoy zero range

[leaden quiver]

isnt arrow nova the fix for that

[icy zinc]

can force it with life reforge

harvest

[pulsar dune]

TBH just play normal bow strstack atp, it's like 50% less damage, but also real clear

[leaden quiver]

grafts had proj speed per str :[

[crisp plinth]

Proj speed isn't the issue

[icy zinc]

a bit more common than nothing

[crisp plinth]

Low targeting range is

[pulsar dune]

And a real ascendancy rather than hiero lmao

[leaden quiver]

normal bow skills suck rn

[soft perch]

Im telling u guys

[leaden quiver]

elehit slayer

[soft perch]

Log in ele hit slayer

[leaden quiver]

beat you to it

[pulsar dune]

Tornado shot and SA of menace

[soft perch]

Can’t be disappointed

Max block big damage great clear just pls equip skitterbots

[leaden quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vSaRKUT99I&t=24735s

obligatory link

[pulsar dune]

It is tempting

[soft perch]

I think Tuadh is trolling in campaign btw

[pulsar dune]

But I think I'll do my meme PF

[soft perch]

I think skitters are mandatory on low gear

Cuz u get the big aoe enabled almost always without hitting first

And actually getting ur elements

[rocky aspen]

anybody got a private league I can join for some 2-stone practice runs?

[modern zinc]

I loved playing inquisitor RF
I think i'll make a spectre necromancer before the league ends tho

I wanna try it out as well

[leaden quiver]

just need to disable fire

holy shit is it time for self reverse chill arkhons tools

D:

[elder marlin]

how bad is it to chance rathpith and ivory?

[gilded lark]

If genesis tree going core, does that mean fracturing orb will forever be cheap?

Harbingers was already not so profitable, now the nerf is permanent

[soft perch]

Nah u just shrug

I mean u can if u want to ig

[elder marlin]

thats good, more frac bases, harby can be use for exp

[hoary scarab]

add divine shards

[soft perch]

Ele hit also gets an enormous power jump from secrets of suffering

[gilded lark]

From that pov I guess yeah

[soft perch]

Chaos orbs

[past rain]

they are 100% changing the tree node values

[hoary scarab]

🐴

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[dense rock]

good, filtered out by lootfilter league is ass anyway

[leaden quiver]

ig arkhons tools reverse chill is cool

[icy zinc]

rathpith hard, ivory easier

[soft perch]

it isnt

skitters travel to enemies and their aoe is very low

[leaden quiver]

meat shield fixes that iirc

but then ur reserving 10000 mana

[soft perch]

interesting

[leaden quiver]

so its troll

ill test rn

[soft perch]

but then u dont get ailments as nicely on enemies for clear

i still think arkhons tools is more for trappers/miners

[dense rock]

do you truly need the ailments for every random enemy or just for the tougher ones? 😛

[soft perch]

ele hit gets 80% more aoe when u hit an enemy with the ailment of the chosen damage type

so yes

[leaden quiver]

yeah just go skitterbots without arkhons + secrets of suffering

less headache

then tamings, then yoke

and ur good

[soft perch]

yup

[dense rock]

sounds like you should have some better source than skitters then 😛

[soft perch]

skitters are fine

[leaden quiver]

meat shield reduces their aggro range

but they still go towards enemies

[dense rock]

stick closer to you and focus enemies that manage to dmg you over everything else, aint it?

[soft perch]

also ngl

i think im gonna spec into keepers breach for next league

think keepers is very overhated and fortresses are quite rewarding

[modern zinc]

Is it okay to play necro without using offerings? having to cast them every screen gets a bit old

[soft perch]

there are ways to trigger offerings

[dense rock]

think most people automate offerings via some way or another

[tawdry olive]

specializing into something nobody else likes is usually a quick way to mirrors

[modern zinc]

ok that's actually a good idea

i'll look into that

thanks!

[leaden quiver]

it is very overhated

i agree hive fortresses are boring though

they should be super rare, super rewarding

[soft perch]

they are pretty damn rewarding

[leaden quiver]

from personal experience they were really good with those +magic monsters blight maps

with bismuth ore

there were loads of magics in there dropping good loot

[tawdry olive]

you're pretty much limited by graft blood and fortresses give a lot of them
then you just print fracturered int stack chest/helmets with provisioning wombgifts that cost 1c

thats only one of the strats, ive heard of jewel printing, foulborn unique printing, lots of different things people were doing

[soft perch]

well graftblood is gone

[dense rock]

crafted weapon mod is one of the easiest ways if possible for your build 🙂

[leaden quiver]

this likely wont be the case

[icy zinc]

@leaden quiver found a way to get 5% all max res as well have that forbidden 1/1 es

[leaden quiver]

anymore

[icy zinc]

[leaden quiver]

i still prefer the trialmaster node

[tawdry olive]

the graftblood on your existing grafts is gone, i dont know if graftblood mechanic itself will get shifted to something else, unless i read the announcement wrongly

[leaden quiver]

its ridiculous value if youre using a vaal skill

[ocean field]

being lucky and unlucky during shaper exalt at the same time 🙁

[icy zinc]

belt sacrifice is fine early on

[leaden quiver]

tru tru

[crisp obsidian]

which ascendancy points are you clicking

[leaden quiver]

but dont bank on them being accessible

[icy zinc]

45% gowd deym

this is 15% spell block if you 75% normal block on paper

i keep forgetting and thinking its from your shield

like the other one

[ocean field]

I have to hit the 5% Es on block tho

[full tide]

this was on a t14 map

[ocean field]

🙁

[full tide]

so lucky but so unlucky

[finite quail]

divine it :3

[ocean field]

Now pain

[leaden quiver]

wonder if overexertion will be hit with a stick

[finite quail]

yes

[icy zinc]

that one is +9% block

[ocean field]

will divine respect meta mods??

[finite quail]

yes

[modern zinc]

I was thinking about these + the farrul bloodline for +1 spectre

[ocean field]

like prefixes cannot be change type shit

[crisp obsidian]

I hope they delete all the ways to automate shit on attack builds

[ocean field]

oh good

[tawdry olive]

they're gonna triple tap earthshatter

[soft perch]

ok poe2

[leaden quiver]

its limit 1 spectre

[crisp obsidian]

just click some skill effect duration on passive tree then

[leaden quiver]

not +1 spectre

[crisp obsidian]

no I just hate attack builds

[ocean field]

gng I bought 30 bases for it

got it in the first 3

[leaden quiver]

bro hates attacks icant

[ocean field]

hmm

[leaden quiver]

elehit slayer leaguestart it is

[ocean field]

what do I do with the rest 27

[leaden quiver]

i am sold

[civic fern]

which one is better for sunder?

[leaden quiver]

right

rare preferably

[crisp obsidian]

not my fault

blame GGG

[dense rock]

the trick to play attack builds is to play something like strike builds with every strike hitting like 10 targets around you 😄

[icy zinc]

i am coming to your house

[elder marlin]

both r dogsht

[icy zinc]

and even then you can automate a lot of shi

[leaden quiver]

@soft perch tbh with arkhons on slayer you could do the funny tech with bonechill

[icy zinc]

energy cast on crit

[potent bramble]

Why not Cat bloodline for boosts based on minions? Spectre is... global defences?

[leaden quiver]

and converting damage taken to cold

very wonky trollbuild but

you get like 60% reduced ele damage taken without megagimping your build

[elder marlin]

farrul is cat bloodline...

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbreadman-approaching-destination-rapidly-gingerbread-gif-6273674681940847815

[potent bramble]

Catarina

[modern zinc]

jfc

[elder marlin]

oh

[modern zinc]

i'm illiterate

I thought it was +1 to max number of spectres

...............

[limber lance]

Anyone else also feeling like theres way more hype buildup for the upcoming league than the last 5 or so. We have few teaseres but the community is very active

[elder marlin]

just go for a lv 25 specter

[ocean field]

I goon

I made this for 5 div u can too

[icy zinc]

0% quality

[soft perch]

that is quite pogged sir

[tight plinth]

how much es is that with qual?

[soft perch]

time to foulborn exalt it

[ocean field]

thanks for the heads up

[soft perch]

408

[icy zinc]

time to work

[dense rock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/larry-popkey-enthusiasm-m4jaaIGsn5KVO

[tawdry olive]

veiled double damage/hybrid stats time?

50/50 baby

[soft perch]

ye u could multimod prefixes cant be changed and veiled orb it

1/3 to miss

[ocean field]

One should not be too greedy

one should know ones limits

[elder marlin]

lock veiled

[soft perch]

i mean

[tawdry olive]

true

[elder marlin]

[dense rock]

why in everliving hell would that shit be 20divs 😮

[soft perch]

u can still reforge defence back on but its like

1/6 or something?

[tawdry olive]

wtf? restraint? in my slot machine simulator ?

[soft perch]

and can brick

its unlikely to miss on the veiled orb tho

its worth

[elder marlin]

shaper influ it and then dense spam

[ocean field]

Tho where would one even go from here

what good suffixes exit??

[soft perch]

multimod prefixes cant be changed veil orb

[elder marlin]

literal hell to craft but technically better than 20 qual 1

[ocean field]

hell to craft = no

[soft perch]

block prefix is pretty hard to get with good es

[visual depot]

hey guys, does melee splash help frost blades with single target still?

[ocean field]

yeah was pain but am maxed out

[leaden quiver]

@soft perch how do u even scale it for t17s

[elder marlin]

i mean u just need to essence spam for block and es% then lock reforge def

[ocean field]

got very lucky

[leaden quiver]

Got a pob or smth?

[elder marlin]

its not that bad, only like 2k essence

[soft perch]

think ele hit doesnt have much of an issue with t17s no

[ocean field]

what is the best suffix mod at this point

[finite quail]

no not really, it only adds a splash to the first enemy you hit

[ocean field]

??

[soft perch]

double damage

veiled orb time gogo

[finite quail]

Its pretty useless on frost blades

[icy zinc]

30% quality

[ocean field]

hmm

how to get double damage tho

viel ah

[finite quail]

veil

[visual depot]

oh i was thinking about divergent melee splash which doesnt exisit anymore

[soft perch]

paradoxica, admirals arrogance, yoke, tamings, u have so many options to get damage

[finite quail]

none of those gems exist anymore

[elder marlin]

int, dd

[soft perch]

enmitys and avatar of fire if u wanna go that route

[finite quail]

and if you want melee splash, its on a node on the tree now

bottom left of Duelist

its called Tribal Fury

with it, you can get an attack mastery for +1 strike, too

[visual depot]

yeah i will try it out, thanks

[ocean field]

I think I mma just craft int or smt

[spice pecan]

oh shit i forgot how ass it is to get the maven witnesses for the remembered

cuz i didnt do the challenge the first time smh

[tawdry olive]

ok this doesnt have anything to do with the topic but "elemental hit" is such a wtf skill name, like who comes up with that 😭

call it prismatic strike or smth

[spice pecan]

this is why i refuse to play the skill tbh

[soft perch]

well it was probably added in like

1995

so it makes sense

diablo 1 ass skill

[tawdry olive]

damn i was but a baby

[leaden quiver]

Forgot u also have access to tinctured

[visual depot]

i was thinking how melee splash could work with hyrdosphere on frost blades

[leaden quiver]

And people say melee strikes are bad

[soft perch]

ele hit is goated skill man

[leaden quiver]

Xddd

[soft perch]

precise technique + elemental equilbrium for infinite damage early on

[dense rock]

melee strikes are bad. Until you mod them to function as ranged aoe splash 😄

[soft perch]

melee strikes arent bad

theyre probably a bit op

[icy zinc]

@leaden quiver forgot joltings can have upto 55% inc dmg as a positive prefix

[soft perch]

additional strikes + splashes gives a lot of shotgunning

[icy zinc]

that being said if you got spiritual aid

[fickle glen]

Yo, why is the duelist so zesty when he uses leaping slam while holding a greatsword?

[leaden quiver]

Goatbub

[dense rock]

is it even melee or strike at that point tho?

[soft perch]

real

[soft perch]

melee isnt this in either poe1 or poe2 so

i guess?

[leaden quiver]

Probably absolution of inspiring was nuts this league

[dense rock]

"yeah my melee attack works great, i just need to use it to snipe enemies across the screen in all directions"

[leaden quiver]

150% inc dmg from a graft

[leaden quiver]

How else do you want it to work

[dense rock]

you bonk

[fickle glen]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-26612628

[dense rock]

not you swing the air and enemies 25m away explode in a gory explosion

[leaden quiver]

Yeah and then youre inherently locked into 0 clear

[fickle glen]

My duelist

[leaden quiver]

Meaning its bad

[sleek barn]

https://pobb.in/FqgycZFmlNDe this is probably the final state of my phrecia build

its still pretty shit

man

zombies suck

[icy zinc]

puppetto

[leaden quiver]

They dont

U just gotta play falling on a saboteur

Xd

[icy zinc]

i cant even calculate my absolution dps

cause theres like 8 buttons

[leaden quiver]

Best go to uber, wait for dmg prot to drop

Then do it

[fickle glen]

Why you defile that character like that, he is supposed to be pure

[sleek barn]

oh yeah hows your vaal absolution doing

[icy zinc]

keke

its decent ye

zooming

i didnt go hard for the qol of the resummons apart from having 10 casts

[sleek barn]

templar too naked to be pure

[icy zinc]

which is fine for the next 225 seconds

4 min-ish

should be fine for most maps

[sleek barn]

did you get minion duration on grafts

[icy zinc]

nop, the only minion duration prefix is on a ash

[tawdry olive]

templar is probably responsible for the fact that POE characters cannot equip pants

[icy zinc]

very unfortunate

[tawdry olive]

he had a hand in it, i just know this

[icy zinc]

these are my grafts

[ocean field]

I am back guys

[icy zinc]

great avalanche bug does 4% brittle btw

[ocean field]

parents called to have lunch

[leaden quiver]

Im sold on the ele hit starter

If tapped, time to go witch poison maniona

[sleek barn]

you can get minion duration on the molten

but you did say duration is fine in maps so its chill

[icy zinc]

ah

yeah its alright

[ocean field]

can essence be used at the end or only at the start

[icy zinc]

theres enduring bond near witch which is 44% minion duration

[ocean field]

??

[icy zinc]

but you're spending 1/12 of all your passive points on it then

[leaden quiver]

Its megaworth

[icy zinc]

i thought of it

[leaden quiver]

44% minion dura which doesnt add to the soul gain prevention

And 20% skill dura which adds to the prevention

[icy zinc]

enduring bond has skill effect on it

righ

u righ

[leaden quiver]

Yeah but 100/80 < 164/100

[icy zinc]

tbh if i wanted competitive dps id go doryani prototype

you can easily push the uber killer dps

[sleek barn]

pain in terms of cost

[leaden quiver]

But its so pita

:(

[sleek barn]

but minions is already pain

[leaden quiver]

Minions are goated

[icy zinc]

yeah you need ideal watcher eye and exarch shield

[leaden quiver]

Mega autopilot

[sleek barn]

just getting your clusters is fucked

[leaden quiver]

Or font of thunder xpp

And divine flesh

[icy zinc]

i rolled vicious bite on large clusters for 100k harvest juice

and its always in the back

which minion combo makes crit in front?

[uneven gust]

12 passive 35% isn't too hard TBF

Enrolled until you get 25% and then you hit reforge on bench similar modifiers till it hits 35

[leaden quiver]

Renewal, vicious bite, skeletal

[sleek barn]

#1┃general message this happened to me sadge

[leaden quiver]

@icy zinc

[tranquil sedge]

https://theodorejbieber.github.io/PoEClusterJewelCalculator/

[whole bluff]

I wish they'd just allow players more efficient ways to make strikes clear well based on strike range and splash. Then you could use the mechanics inherent to vigilant strike, dual strike of ambidex, mamba (let's just accept mamba is cis dual strike), dom blow of inspiring, even though they have no free AoE or proj effect to clear, without having to spend 20 passives to make up for that

[uneven gust]

Ilvl like 50 is a sweetspot i think, bench force caster mod till 2 notable then ex slam and pray

[sleek barn]

i don't think they want to reward "non-true" melee builds

[icy zinc]

lmoa

[tranquil sedge]

poe players do be like that

[whole bluff]

True melee is not functional in poe

[sleek barn]

yeah but they probably want it to be

part of the vision

[whole bluff]

Wish they'd stop wasting dev resources baiting people

[tranquil sedge]

vision is just about poe2 lol

[whole bluff]

Idk tbh

[uneven gust]

It's the fishion

[sleek barn]

poo2 melee is probably closer to true melee

[tranquil sedge]

and trying to make poe1 into a backwards ass clone of poe2

[finite quail]

hydrosphere is dead

[whole bluff]

They could be catering to people who should actually ne playing soul calibur

[fossil mural]

Id consider having to walk to a mob to hit them true melee

[finite quail]

it has an attack cooldown of like one second between each strike you deal to it

[uneven gust]

All I'm saying is if they're announcing phericia Gauntlet is replacing ruthless I'm going to be happy

[icy zinc]

good stuff pookie

0 results

[sleek barn]

ruthless is staying

bc theres no reason for it to be removed

theres still the 10 enjoyers out there

[fossil mural]

They did add ancestral support, but its on a 3 second cooldown. So still have to walk up

[whole bluff]

I don't know if strikes without proj or AoE tag are made cuz Jonathan wants to play soul calibur or some players want to play soul calibur, but either way it's kinda clear it doesn't really do well in poe1

[visual depot]

sadge

[spice pecan]

wtf is this arch thing

[sleek barn]

GGG said you can only call your ancestors every once in a while

[spice pecan]

it spawned right next to a harby

[sleek barn]

transport

[icy zinc]

betrayal :P

[tranquil sedge]

plenty of reason

[uneven gust]

Betrayal

[tranquil sedge]

there's like 1 intern that works on poe1

[icy zinc]

these is where the transport thingy should arrive

[spice pecan]

transport was on the previous area

[tranquil sedge]

he can get more free time if ruthless is removed

[icy zinc]

or well, get out of

[spice pecan]

oh wait nvm

ive never noticed it i guess xdd

[fossil mural]

Poe2 does have ways to clear even with aoeless projectileless skills

[icy zinc]

ye thats fine

[sleek barn]

giving an intern more free time is like against the moral code

you have to work em to death

[tawdry olive]

i was just checking the sub sidebar for a bit...
chris is still here

[uneven gust]

Lord forbid people play with two buttons

[icy zinc]

vicious bite is still behind btw

[fossil mural]

And generally ggg have made a point and they want skills to do different things

[uneven gust]

For some people Lord forbid they even play with one button oh my God

Oh my God this build has half of a button oh my God this is stupid this this build sucks F tier build

[tranquil sedge]

those people are called idiots

[icy zinc]

pob updated

kinetic fusillade 69 fixes

[tranquil sedge]

and u can safely ignore their opinion

[icy zinc]

smh it will get nerfed!

[spice pecan]

to be fair you eventually get to a point where your character is so fast that pressing 2 buttons is like... kind of suboptimal

at least a lot of builds get that way

but yeah

[tranquil sedge]

no builds start that way

[fossil mural]

Movement + damage

[tranquil sedge]

and if ur doing enough dps with enough that u dont even need a movement skill

[sleek barn]

i press many buttons to exercise my fingers

[tranquil sedge]

i think ur not the target audience for the guide

[uneven gust]

It comes down to by the time the player realizes the situation activates the skill they could have just killed them with two activations of their main skill

[sleek barn]

i see no problem

[tranquil sedge]

i mean the people complaining about buttons

aren't the people who'll surpass using buttons

unless they play a shit dps build like rf or some actual no button build like coc/cwc cyclone or something

[leaden quiver]

@icy zinc

[sleek barn]

pong

[icy zinc]

@leaden quiver

[leaden quiver]

Pong

[icy zinc]

oh

[uneven gust]

I like my spaghetti Mines, I like my deathoath, I like my Frost blades, i like my cws

[fossil mural]

They are old tbh, too much work is bad for them joints

[leaden quiver]

Spaghetti mines?

[ocean field]

Should I craft Int, Spell crit using essence or one of those aspect of avian stuff

how good are the aspects

[icy zinc]

what league

[uneven gust]

Yeah cold spaghetti mines
Exsanguinate cold convert

[ocean field]

standard

fross btw

[icy zinc]

oh dang

fross hm

[uneven gust]

You shoot cold spaghetti everywhere

They freeze and they die

[icy zinc]

has fross ever cared about spiders aspect

[sleek barn]

the spaghetti still looks like blood

oh

[icy zinc]

i think thats better for a ring

ig

[sleek barn]

i guess thats tomato sauce

[ocean field]

idk bro I have never tried any aspects

[uneven gust]

It's the only build I was able to hit more than 1m dps on lol

[crisp obsidian]

If you use essence it rerolls everything btw

[leaden quiver]

Aspect of the avian kinda goated for maniona

[uneven gust]

get good enough base with an empty prefix or suffix depending on what you need to Beast craft and the Beast craft exalts not reforges

[leaden quiver]

Also holy shit those reddit players are insanely whiny

[icy zinc]

breaking news!

the

[sleek barn]

the

[uneven gust]

This is kind of the Reddit Discord anyways

[icy zinc]

                                           ![p_scroll](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/718211877691195426.webp?size=128 "p_scroll")

[sleek barn]

aspect of the spider is nice qol

[icy zinc]

wisdom and portal placement

before quality of life

[uneven gust]

Is this loss

[tranquil sedge]

chaotic evil inventory placement

[sleek barn]

painge

[tranquil sedge]

if anyone arranges their inventory like that

run

[icy zinc]

[crisp obsidian]

Where

[uneven gust]

So how do you think portal Scrolls and ID Scrolls work.

I think you pull the string and it just like pops like a party cracker

And then the Spells cast

[ocean field]

does it not respect meta mods?

[crisp obsidian]

Correct

Essenes ignore them completely

[ocean field]

welp

then no spell critical strike I guess

[tawdry olive]

yea there's a couple of gotchas like that, always emulate on CoE first

[ocean field]

so one of the aspects

hmm

[tawdry olive]

rule of thumb is "does this sound like its too strong?"
then it probably doesn't work

[crisp obsidian]

Incorrect

[sleek barn]

i now associate "gotchas" with gpt

[crisp obsidian]

Lots of strong crafts work

[uneven gust]

No you like can.... when you're crafting it you spam Essence then you met a mod benchcraft then harvest reforge and all pray and go with two crafted mods which needs three affixes empty

[ocean field]

The funny thing is I spent like 21 divs for 7 million dust

now I have 6.9 million dust

[crisp obsidian]

Ez

Now you can do funny recombs

[ocean field]

yeah

[leaden quiver]

Entire sub

[uneven gust]

100K dust is like 8C what

[leaden quiver]

About breach

[ocean field]

standard

not keepers

[lapis dove]

hey guys how are the builds for the next league going so far? or is it too early to ask?

[ocean field]

Play trickster

[tawdry olive]

bruh we have not even caught a whiff of whats changing besides scion

[ocean field]

All other builds bad

[lapis dove]

trickster it is then👍

[tawdry olive]

but yea blue life good

cant go wrong with blue life

inb4 they dumpster blue life and CI this patch

[ocean field]

GGG dumping blue life

[sleek barn]

wait for patch notes

[ocean field]

is the same chance as og poe1 players liking poe2 better

[sleek barn]

i am patch note enjoyer

[tawdry olive]

the reveal stream is usually like 3am for me

[ocean field]

can't believe this game is 13 years old

[tawdry olive]

then the patch notes after and i have to go to sleep

sadge

usually just read them when i wake up

[ocean field]

same age as gta 5

but at least we got poe 2

but no gta 6

[uneven gust]

Interesting

It's like a whole new market there holy crap that's weird

[ocean field]

yep

people have bought all the dustable uniques

so pretty much only the shit ones remain

where u spend a gazzilon gold

or just pay a little premium

[sleek barn]

rogue exile farm for uniques trust

or blight bosses ig

[uneven gust]

That reminds me I have a bunch of Legacy Whispering infinities

I think I have one that's near 500

Another one is exactly 420

[tawdry olive]

nice

[sleek barn]

fuck i didn't make conversion trap build yet

[tawdry olive]

i just entered college when i discovered POE, this was 12 years ago, basically i saw someone say the passive tree was like the sphere grid from FFX

[sleek barn]

i don't think im doing it

[tawdry olive]

and i was like shieeet thats all you had to say

[sleek barn]

i have not had the time

[mental violet]

Well ggg I have you seen alot of people say we want the old breach

[sleek barn]

likely true

[tawdry olive]

huh? if you boom no phys/ele/chaos damage does it still work?

[sleek barn]

uhhh

i have no idea

[potent bramble]

Genuinely not sure what the difference is between old Breach and current Unstable Breach. Other than pack density, but that's an easy thing to change (I assume)

[sleek barn]

yeah ig if you boom all immunities its just joever

[tawdry olive]

1. you need to return to the center because of the boss
2. not very sure how having multiple unstable breaches will be like yet

[wispy comet]

oh boy i can't wait to see what the next league mechanic to get permanently ruined for the sake of making things fit with path of exile 2 is

[potent bramble]

can you have that combination? That would make the mobs exempt from all 5 damage types, wouldn't it?

[tawdry olive]

id think that be really hard/unlikely, unless its a logbook maybe, or you're doing the 4 mod scarab

[tight plinth]

whats the difference between "havent moved" and stationary?

[sleek barn]

exped is already tough enough without the immunities lol

[potent bramble]

Ig returning to the middle never bothered me, I had never gotten used to the loot dropping on my player

[sleek barn]

im just happy theres no more splinters to drop

[tawdry olive]

at high juice levels most people interacted with old breach by running around popping 10 of them at once and clearing 3.5 screens away at 360 degrees

so like, i guess its those peeps who would be most worried

about the new unstable breach

[fickle glen]

If I add “50% more bleed damage” mods will it cancel out the penalty for this keystone?

[tranquil sedge]

not very sure how having multiple unstable breaches will be like yet
FUN

surely

[tranquil sedge]

are you not afraid of jinxing yourself

[vale compass]

ehhh it was fine before 3.27 rework when they made them drop as stack under you when the breach finished

[potent bramble]

Assuming they're moving fast enough, they could still do this - once it's stable the breach doesn't close until you kill the boss/rares that spawn. Even if you die/exit the zone or run super far away

[sleek barn]

i don't think i'll be doing breach anyways

[hybrid harness]

1x0.5x1.5 is not 1

[tawdry olive]

as in, im not sure how GGG will handle it yet, how many (+ scarabs), the density, or if they would even allow it etc. Id like to think they understand what made old breach tick so it will likely be fine

[tranquil sedge]

oh

yea fair

but ultimately more mobs = more fun 🤞

[wispy comet]

very cool that 5 unique breachlords got replaced with one boss fight

[potent bramble]

Running Harb right, because they're definitely getting a major buff/rework this league?

[fickle glen]

Don’t know what you by that

[sleek barn]

trust, harbs only drop mirror shards now

[vale compass]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[tranquil sedge]

its similar to the question you asked earlier i think

[sleek barn]

i wish for treasure scarab to revert

[tranquil sedge]

what does pob say about it in the calculations tab

[crisp obsidian]

Y'all need to stop coping with them reworking any leagues from now on tbh

[fickle glen]

I did but it wasn’t about bleed

[crisp obsidian]

They get too much shit for it

[tranquil sedge]

do you mean in a good way or bad way

ive never coped about it in a good way at all LOL

[tawdry olive]

do you mean in an aladeen way? or aladeen way?

[wispy comet]

considering they decided to implement it after the feedback they received, they clearly did not get enough shit for it

[potent bramble]

Somebody a few hours ago was claiming that the devs had said Harb changes were in the works, it was just 50/50 if it would make it into the Keeper's patch, and then it didn't.

They said there were receipts, but I'm currently choosing to believe on blind faith alone

[icy zinc]

no you need 100% more damage

[kind thunder]

Hey all, had a bit of an esoteric build question, is this the right place for that?

[fickle glen]

Where is the 0.5 coming from?

[sleek barn]

sure

[tranquil sedge]

ill reserve judgement till 26th feb but if tree hasn't been substantially nerfed then i dont think they got nearly enough shit

[vale compass]

yeah after seeing what rework looks like with the breach example - pls no reworks/league 2.0

[tranquil sedge]

50% less = 0.5
50% more = 1.5
0% less/more = 1.0

[wispy comet]

if 3.27 is what a rework looks like, i'm fine with them never reworking an existing league mechanic ever again

[sleek barn]

i think we're seeing sanctum rework

[tranquil sedge]

stop

[sleek barn]

[tranquil sedge]

you might be right

but stop

[hybrid harness]

50% less is halving ur dmg, 50% more is not doubling

[vale compass]

they lie(or promise but dont deliver) quite a lot lately, 3.27 was supposed to have CRAZY endgame balancing reshuffle

[fickle glen]

But they both calculate of base value

[tranquil sedge]

hey
it did
most of the existing methods went poof

[sleek barn]

honestly i can't really come up with a good league idea so i suppose reworking is in the books

[vale compass]

xdddd

[potent bramble]

We did have Phrecia, which was technically a huge balance change in the endgame 😛

But also y'all are sleeping on the most obvious conclusion

[sleek barn]

idols are pretty controversial

[stoic horizon]

actually not really

[tranquil sedge]

and what's that

[fickle glen]

You telling me the 50% less makes the new value the base value?

[tranquil sedge]

this is the exact same question you asked earlier*

these are multipliers

[potent bramble]

Lake of Kalanadra is coming back, because the Bird Lady wants to learn more about our ways. Only this time... it costs loot to enter, so she can learn from our spoils

[tranquil sedge]

that is why skabb gave you that answer

[vale compass]

also phrecia was so badly communicated and also just 10 days after pohx league after they funded the slots, could have said to pohx - hold on we have something cooking soon tm

[tranquil sedge]

1 * 0.5 * 1.5 is not equal to 1

[hybrid harness]

less and more are multiplicative, u can do it in any order and u will end up at 75% of original value

[fickle glen]

Yeah it doesn’t make any sense that that I think about it

[stoic horizon]

doesnt matter tbh, but they all are separate multipliers, whether 50 more or 50 less acts first has no importance

[sleek barn]

what was kalandra mechanic again

i skipped

[tranquil sedge]

thats just how the game works and how math works

1 * 0.5 * 1.5 is the same as 1 * 1.5 * 0.5

the order doesn't matter

more first less second or other way around

same outcome

50% more does not balance 50% less coz they multiply

[stoic horizon]

you need 100% more to counter 50% less

[fickle glen]

No no you’re all wrong

[tranquil sedge]

wdym

[tawdry olive]

praytell what do you think is right then

[stoic horizon]

hes bad at math so we are wrong

[potent bramble]

I never claimed they were good at communicating, tbf. My only serious claim was that someone else claimed they had publicly mentioned a harb rework.

And as a Harb Enjoyer, I'd really like for that to be reality

[fickle glen]

If the game calculates by 1 to begin with it resets it back to 1 with inverted values

[stoic horizon]

[hybrid harness]

but 50% less and 50% more are not same values

[tranquil sedge]

i was going to reply to zemor saying there's always a chance maybe we missed something

but if that's your logic, yea we didn't miss anything

please go use pob to answer your questions next time then i mean

like its easy to go look at the dps

go type 50% more damage and find out for yourself

[stoic horizon]

more multipliers are not additive to eachother

[tranquil sedge]

then you wouldn't have to have this discussion either lol you'd have the answer immediately

[tawdry olive]

you're probably messing up increased and more, 50% increased and 50% reduced cancels out, more and less are a differnt thing

keywords are extremely specific in this game

[tranquil sedge]

ppl explained this to him earlier already

like, exactly this

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/8VIVGgzMWsc

[vale compass]

oh yeah it wasnt meant to contradict you, just adding to phrecia comment. And yeah I like harby too, honestly I think just qol change for shards to drop as one thing would be good enough to save you from clicking 100 times

[tranquil sedge]

badly planned* also

like for all their 'we dont want to burn out players'

it sure was perfectly timed perfectly to do that

[potent bramble]

Shards dropping as stacks consistently would already solve a third of the issue, then we just need any way to scale the loot better

[tranquil sedge]

im not complaining we got phrecia, take what you can get
but i can sure as shit complain about the timing and duration of it

[hard cliff]

@tranquil sedge
can you tell me if I understand this correctly?

increased = damage goes up

more= damage goes up a lot

[tranquil sedge]

take what you can get
because that's all modern GGG under jon and mark is good for
take what you can get, go play steam backlog if not happy

[tranquil sedge]

perfect

you are now eligible for a masters degree in poe

[potent bramble]

Where you here when I suggested making Pherecia a regular event? Change the league cycle to 4 months (from 3), then do the first 2 months as normal and the second 2 months as Phrecia

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/pusheen-graduate-graduation-gif-15363714

[tranquil sedge]

i was
i don't like that idea for a few reasons

i think i communicated them but ill repeat

[full tide]

whats a good time for 2 stone? i got 11 hour 18 mins

[tawdry olive]

sounds fine to me

like the world records are around the 5 hour mark or so if you want to aim for that

[hard cliff]

that's crazy

ssf brand new charecter?

[tranquil sedge]

1 - incentive to make a medicore league because 'hey players will just play phrecia so fuck it even if its mid'
2 - they won't do it coz poe2 exists and theoretically that's supposed to be a staggered 2 month cycle with poe1

[full tide]

yep ssf new char

[full tide]

hell no

[potent bramble]

You probably did but I have the memory of a fruit fly with attention problems

[tranquil sedge]

no comment on 2 stone but as someone who does 8-10h campaign, that is a baller time

[fickle glen]

All I can find online is Reddit chats saying the same thing

[hard cliff]

you are massively over valuing the phrecia gimmick

[full tide]

my fastest act was 3:30 but i was so underlevled so my most realistic completion is about 4 horu 15

[tawdry olive]

yea thats fast

thats more than enough

[leaden quiver]

11 is very good, 7 is goated

5 is mega zoomer ben

[full tide]

i got those times with pconc, never felt anything stronger

[potent bramble]

I don't think I agree with your first point, b/c the expectation would be that Phrecia runs in addition to the base, so it's really only the people who get into it that swap. More like a private league that's open to the public

Your second point is a good one for sure though, they wouldn't want to increase the competition between the games, especially when PoE2 is still in beta and thus reliant on a regular playerbase for consistent feedback

[tranquil sedge]

if it ran in parallel that would be even worse than doing it after 2 months

now ur splitting the playerbase in a game that is entirely balanced around trade economy

well

thats what i get for not reading

private league works yes ignore that

[potent bramble]

True, but how many people are still playing a lot after 2 months? I know I tend to drift after like 3-5 weeks for most leagues

[tranquil sedge]

i dont know what you expect us to say other than that is literally just how poe was designed and how multiplication in math works

the result of this is that

• 'less' damage modifiers are actually meaningful
• and also 'more' damage modifiers are not useless

and if you still have doubts just go put the numbers in pob and it will tell you the same thing.

[fickle glen]

It’s very stupid that they designed it that way

[ocean field]

If I am able to get socket reservation will this be mirror tier

[fickle glen]

Because the 1st value sets the base value according to what you are saying

[tranquil sedge]

nobody said that

[ocean field]

or am I high

[tranquil sedge]

please dont claim i said shit i didn't

multiplication is a commutative thing and this is something people learn in grade school

[leaden quiver]

20% qual

Not mirror quality

Defo

[tranquil sedge]

1 times 2 is the same as 2 times 1

[fickle glen]

That’s exactly what you’re all saying

[tranquil sedge]

^

replace 1 and 2 with any numbers you like

[fickle glen]

No bro, why is less calculating the 1.5 instead of the 1 hmm?

[ocean field]

so what to do to get to mirror tier

[lilac parcel]

will they remove breach 1.0 totaly?

[tranquil sedge]

nobody said that

did you read this part?

[stoic horizon]

how many times do we have tell you it doesnt matter which is first?

[tranquil sedge]

i have highlighted it for you

[whole bluff]

All more/less multipliers multiply the entire other value. They don't cancel out cuz conjugate rule. It all works.

[stoic horizon]

its MULTIPLICATION

like

2 x 3 = 6 and 3 x 2 = 6

[fickle glen]

It does matter because that means one of those values are setting a new base value

[hoary scarab]

me when third grade math

[ocean field]

wtf is happening here chat

[stoic horizon]

thats as if you were saying 2 times 5 is different than 5 times 2

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[ocean field]

is ts grade school

[icy zinc]

damn i went to eat and see that we are having basic math issues

thats funny

[tranquil sedge]

anyway

[lilac parcel]

do you know what will happen with the scaravs ?

[tranquil sedge]

math aside

[hybrid harness]

he thinks less and more are like reduced and increased

[tranquil sedge]

you got your answer

so this is not important anymore

[vale compass]

thats not how math works

[whole bluff]

Every more/less multiplier changes the entire value. All increases/reductions are generally summed.

[stoic horizon]

we failing primary school with this one 🔥 🔥

[scarlet sonnet]

Maybe if you can give an example of what you're talking about it clears up what you mean?

[icy zinc]

50% decreased and 50% increased work in the end

[ocean field]

Tho what exactly is the problem

[icy zinc]

cause it balances out at 0%

but more and less, nop

[hybrid harness]

he was gonna take a 50% more bleed source to make up for 50% less one

[stoic horizon]

they dont get why 50% more doesnt fully negate 50% less

[fickle glen]

I am saying that these multipliers are not going off of base value, they are going off of new values

[icy zinc]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HQG0YQG0000FNPVD195TAGXQ/1x.avif

[stoic horizon]

yes, and it doesnt matter which way you put them in

[icy zinc]

to fix math you need to do this

[hybrid harness]

brother if u have 100 and take a 50% less then yes new value is 50. then if u take 50% more it's 75

[fickle glen]

It shouldn’t work like that in games, it should always be locked to the base value which is 1

[stoic horizon]

and you shouldnt ever design a game

[hoary scarab]

brother if u have 100 and take a 50% more then yes new value is 150. then if u take 50% less it's 75

[fickle glen]

As additive not multiplicitive

[hoary scarab]

notice the difference

[stoic horizon]

poe has both

[stoic horizon]

thats the difference between increased and more

[tranquil sedge]

if it was additive there wouldn't be any reason to have more/less multipliers tbh

[hoary scarab]

ever thought about why there are 2 different words?

[grizzled lily]

jorgin has a uni room

[past mantle]

Why? Other than you feeling like that?

[tranquil sedge]

it could functionally be replaced with just a larger amount of increased/reduced right

[fickle glen]

You see what you did there? U did a 50% less off of a new value which is 1.5 instead of 1 which is the original

[hoary scarab]

brother, multiplication

[fickle glen]

Ain’t no way it works like that

[vale compass]

give up, difference between additive and multiplicative is too much

[past mantle]

It works exactly like that.

[hoary scarab]

thats literally the difference between increased/reduced and more/less

[scarlet sonnet]

That is how more and less work. They go off the final value, after increased/reduced. Maybe thats where the confusion lies?

[fickle glen]

I was hoping that’s not the case

[stoic horizon]

if that was the case you would deal 1/10000 of your current dmg

if not less

[vale compass]

thats kinda the reason why more sources are relatively scarce, because it is so powerful

[scarlet sonnet]

That's just the difference between the 2 i fear ^^

More and less are very powerfull

[sleek barn]

the appeal of "more" multiplier is the multiplicative aspect

[hybrid harness]

if u take a 50% less dmg node anywhere in poe, it doesnt matter how much else u got going u will deal 50% less dmg

[sleek barn]

i have never used a more multiplier akin to poe's more multiplier in development but its an interesting thing to have

[fickle glen]

Yeah I had no you can change the base value of things in this game with the more and less mods

This just throws my entire plans out the window

[scarlet sonnet]

Yeah its just how poe does things.

[past mantle]

It's consistent which is nice.

[sleek barn]

poe players are very pendantic so every sentence you phrase while trying to explain your thoughts must be thesis level

[vale compass]

do you know if d4 still random with what is multiplicative and whats not?

[grizzled lily]

IN MY VEINSSS

[past mantle]

I never played D4.

[hoary scarab]

say the words

[past mantle]

What words?

[crisp obsidian]

bad

[hoary scarab]

[solid laurel]

Is the general consensus that scav is kanais cube now?

[past mantle]

The lion does not concern himself with Diablo 4.

[sleek barn]

ban loophole

RAAAH

[tranquil sedge]

we find out on 26th

[crisp obsidian]

No the emoji is bad

Smh

It's not a loophole

[normal hedge]

clearly d4good

[sleek barn]

i too believe the emoji is bad

[crisp obsidian]

The general consensus is wait till stream

[sleek barn]

what is kanais cube

and do i dare to ask

[crisp obsidian]

It's from diablo 3, allows you to extract legendaries so you can use them without wearing em

[solid laurel]

more or less have a weapon/armor/jewelrys unique mods at all times

[past mantle]

It lets you take the effects of a unique item without equipping it.
One slot for a weapon, helmet and jewellery.

[normal hedge]

?

[sleek barn]

i see

i believe so then

[hoary scarab]

but what about increased and reduced

[ocean field]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-margin-awake-marginskyrim-gif-20155428

[sleek barn]

they're clearly taking inspiration from phrecia scav

[ocean field]

COC

Need ur coc

[earnest raven]

It allows you to draw 2 cards

[sleek barn]

honestly kinda boring concept though

[ocean field]

build

fross coc

[past mantle]

It's boring in Diablo because it's mandatory.

[sleek barn]

pot of greed???

[stoic horizon]

damn ask them on a date first

[grizzled lily]

inject the syndicate into my veins im falling for the syndicate heroine-like addiction

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/draw4-block-1

[stoic horizon]

[past mantle]

It also means stats just do not matter on gear.

[solid laurel]

What if GGG adds all the phrecia ascendancies to core

[grizzled lily]

GIVE ME KULEMAKS AND GILDED GG

G

[tranquil sedge]

poe1 explodes

game over gg

[ocean field]

lets just skip to the good part

[sleek barn]

did someone just get beaned

[hoary scarab]

mission complete

[tranquil sedge]

confirmed poe2 covert spy here

ban himmm

[earnest raven]

Nah i deleted it. Subs didnt say coke

[ocean field]

poe 1 becomes poe2

[past mantle]

They won't because f/fs alone would completely brick the game.

[civic charm]

You guys think kinetic fusillade is gonna get nerfed?

[tranquil sedge]

of all things why f/f

[hoary scarab]

real

[tranquil sedge]

D:

[tawdry olive]

upside without downside pathing i guess

[tranquil sedge]

yea but not level of 'break'

[grizzled lily]

to the ground

[tranquil sedge]

phrecia ascendencies are pretty op on their own

[sleek barn]

what is KF that good

[hoary scarab]

KF is pretty busted

[crisp obsidian]

Cause f/fing strong nodes from phrecia classes would be insane

[tranquil sedge]

oh from them

ohhh

yea now that would be some fun

[hoary scarab]

FF 2 endurance charges on jugg

[crisp obsidian]

Fun until people realize how rare all combos would be at that point lul

[hoary scarab]

lifestack elementalist

[tranquil sedge]

super fun 😄

[civic charm]

Big sad

If it goes to the ground imma cry

Is it super meta rn?

[kindred depot]

finally ES + contagion again in meta if bog shaman is added to core

[pulsar dune]

it's a good leveling skill that doesn't feel like shit

[ocean field]

@tranquil sedge
Tbh I get why he is confused. He assumed the more damage part part is a separate scaler which is pegged at 1 and more or less modifiers are additive to each other just like increases and reductions and only the final result is applied. Like say u have 40% more and 30%, then you would have 40-30 = 10% more is his calculation, which of course is not the case since u would have 100 x 1.40 x 0.70 = 98

[tawdry olive]

bu.. bu.. but rolling m- *get slapped

[leaden quiver]

Why would it be

Only scavenger makes sense

Rest is AHH

[pulsar dune]

I fucking wish rolling magma got deleted tbh

[leaden quiver]

And mostly just stolen mods

Scavenger makes sense to steal mods

[stoic horizon]

#make rolling magma roll not bounce

[leaden quiver]

Pog witch no

[tranquil sedge]

so just rolling magma

[sleek barn]

what if rolling magma just rolled on the ground

[crisp obsidian]

Yes and then make it explode at the end for 500% more damage

[sleek barn]

forbidden LS

[sleek barn]

fireball

[vale compass]

bowling magma xd

[tranquil sedge]

molten strike of the zenith would like to file a copyright claim

[kindred depot]

im guessing some assendancies from phrecia are going to core, at least one of each class

[crisp obsidian]

Yea well attacks don't have legal rights in this part of the discord

[ocean field]

@normal hedge where your coc?

[sleek barn]

this is discrimination

[tranquil sedge]

at least we can use attacks

sit spellboi

[icy zinc]

msoz with energy blade is so dum n stupid n op and like

[tranquil sedge]

harry potter the boy who couldn't

[icy zinc]

it just works

[ocean field]

the fross one btw

[split maple]

prayge we have 4 playable spells in 3.28

[icy zinc]

[sleek barn]

thats it

im removing pbod

[ocean field]

new ones??

[pulsar dune]

btw, do you think they'll finally make elemental PF real?

[split maple]

total

[tranquil sedge]

how much of poopbutts' proposed reworks do you guys think makes it into 3.28

like on a scale from 0% to 100% of the rework he wants to see

[ocean field]

which are

[past mantle]

A lot of them are designed with an initial node in mind with some downside.
Behemoth nodes would be completely busted for example.
Herald without having auras disabled.
Imagine Careless that just gives 2 extra proj without needing to path to it.
They'd have to completely neuter half of the ascendancies.

[icy zinc]

not watched pb's

[grizzled lily]

im just bsing you dude no worries

prob not nerfed or not too hard

[pulsar dune]

hollowness is not getting the buff he said for sure

[civic charm]

Why do we think phrecia asc will go core?

[split maple]

pbod, fross, theoretically spark and one more we getting buffed in 3.28

[crisp obsidian]

Ye I'll be sitting in my wheelchair gliding in the air at 500m/s speeds while you attack noobs keep getting stuck in every object

[tranquil sedge]

you're right, that one was on me
i wasn't thinking about it clearly

[sleek barn]

isn't hollowness kinda chill

not broken

[icy zinc]

considering the livestream is in 10 days, leaks should appear today

[sleek barn]

just good for bossing anyways

[pulsar dune]

scavenger is almost certainly involved in the next league, so a reasonable theory is that all of the phrecia ascendancies are

[ocean field]

yeah lowkey the fumbled self cast

[tranquil sedge]

speaking of spells that reminds me
have you ever seen the harry potter the boy who lifted series of videos on youtube lol?

[sleek barn]

hear me out next league will be the return of the rucksack

[crisp obsidian]

Nahhh

[past mantle]

This without the node that forces you to have no int.

[ocean field]

yes

[tranquil sedge]

you are in for a treat my guy lemme link you the first one

[icy zinc]

duration maxxing

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2eW6jezNfU

this is some peak fun

[sleek barn]

why is it called exhibit 39

[icy zinc]

limp bizkit

[crisp obsidian]

Aaaaaa these

Yeyeyeye

[tawdry olive]

str stack wander be like

[past mantle]

Because it's antiquarian.

[ocean field]

gng I lowkey don't know which game is this from

[crisp obsidian]

Seen em

[tranquil sedge]

yea that makes sense

[pulsar dune]

antiquarian uses uniques from the archive (antiques)

[sleek barn]

oh i have not looked at that ascendancy at all

[ocean field]

Best use of AI

oh

[past mantle]

[sleek barn]

i will take a gander

[icy zinc]

antiquarian lowkey least played phrecia class

[hard cliff]

hey

[kindred depot]

I think aristocrat, behemot, bog shaman, servant of arakali, whisperer and puppeter are going to core

[ocean field]

yeah I witnessed the starfield fumbling tho

[past mantle]

If they make them core I am going to make an exarch/eater farmer.

[hard cliff]

I watched a really funny video like this the other week

https://youtu.be/AhaOrK1cmXQ

[sleek barn]

nuh uh

[tranquil sedge]

i will watch this

[sleek barn]

unascended shadow

[grizzled lily]

holy ai baited unc

[void lava]

anyone have Entropic Devastation Assassin's Mitts

[sleek barn]

no

[crisp obsidian]

Yes

[split maple]

yes

[past mantle]

Real.

[hard cliff]

maybe

[ocean field]

https://tenor.com/view/kaden-bear-walk-gif-7458441216561741282

[icy zinc]

really makes you spot

[normal hedge]

https://pobb.in/TqUgTZiuEVGA

[icy zinc]

3 minutes to go through 3 videos

[normal hedge]

without dying sun clicked

[sleek barn]

dying sun adds triple my dps to your build

[tawdry olive]

poe out of context be like

[ocean field]

dying what

[sleek barn]

sun

[normal hedge]

sun

[ocean field]

tf is that

[sleek barn]

flask

[normal hedge]

op flask

[ocean field]

poe in context

[stoic horizon]

shaper juice

[sleek barn]

shapers tears

[tawdry olive]

wait you've never heard of POB booster supreme pro max?

[sleek barn]

does it have an oled display

[ocean field]

I use the other one uhh concentrated ground creater

[stoic horizon]

just play pf with tides and traitor

[ocean field]

bottle of faith

that one

120% spell crit

and 10% more damage

[sleek barn]

bottle of faith is nice but dying sun probably better

[crisp obsidian]

Even PF struggles with keeping dying sun up iirc?

[ocean field]

but this seems to be better

[icy zinc]

lemme have sum no item

[ocean field]

yes dying sun is better

[tawdry olive]

we dont talk about that

[stoic horizon]

thats why i added tides and traitor

[ocean field]

thanks for letting me know

[sleek barn]

how much is it in std

[ocean field]

btw adding more projectiles is lowkey cracked

[tawdry olive]

lmao @hard cliff i was only joking

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah maybe with traitor but uhhhh using that on PF? Boooooooooo

[ocean field]

so imma get the fire extra projectile node

[normal hedge]

which one

[ocean field]

nvm that is only for attacks

[stoic horizon]

yeah thats a lot of wasted space for pf, but hey + proj

[icy zinc]

traitor on pf holy moly

are we sustaining dying sun

[crisp obsidian]

You need to learn that GGG hates spells

No fun stuff for spells

[crisp obsidian]

Close!

[icy zinc]

vinktar?

[ocean field]

hmm no fun stuff true