1┃general

[lean urchin]

cheiftan joins the game

[pliant hamlet]

30% chance 25% pops

You don't need scaling with those numbers

kill 10 mobs in an area and the entire screen explodes

soul taker solves a bunch of annoying builds without using a t0 unique with mediocre dps, fury valve or Death rush lets you use a real ringor amulet with the builds

[wheat sinew]

Soul taker brings back my beloved 0 mana without mNa investment cycloner

And am all for it

[pliant hamlet]

it's gotten easier over the years to solve flicker's mana issue, but it's still something you want to solve at some point

Also 5 second death rush ❤️

[wheat sinew]

Another flicker ? 🤣

[pliant hamlet]

When don't I play flicker lol

I really want to do something bflurry next league tho

I miss that skill

[wheat sinew]

Yeah every league had a diff iteration

Xd

[spice pecan]

when chaos flicker

ele wack, phys wack

[wheat sinew]

Bro did that once

[pliant hamlet]

bruh I tried to make chaos flicker work w/ mavens sword

it's so bad lol

[wheat sinew]

With echo forgo

Yea

[pliant hamlet]

Chaos has such awful scaling

[spice pecan]

poison flicker strike of power with PA

[wheat sinew]

Should've gone lightless

[pliant hamlet]

probably lol

[wheat sinew]

So much flat

Amma dip cya gl with stuff

[pliant hamlet]

o7 Thanks for the answer

[spice pecan]

i want an actual chaos brand spell

without doing some dogdoo poison pbod omegalul stuff

[pliant hamlet]

I want chaos dot to get modern support

because damn is it not good

[thick goblet]

i've never thought of that but that would be sick

[spice pecan]

like i know brands are templar-coded and that's not very chaos like

[thick goblet]

brands are my favourite archetype but they're unplayable garbage mostly

[spice pecan]

but still, cmon

[pliant hamlet]

I kinda hope they steal some stuff from the warlock from Diablo 2

[tranquil umbra]

arcanist brand blight of contagion true true

[pliant hamlet]

imagine the tendrils as a brand lol

[spice pecan]

brands would probably be my favorite if spell totems didnt exist

or kinetic bolt

[pliant hamlet]

I'd like spell totems if they weren't gutted so hard

[tranquil umbra]

isn't the only good brand like

pbod

[spice pecan]

pbod yes, arma is ok for campaign

wintertide is fine if you enjoy rf dps

storm is unplayable

[pliant hamlet]

Wintertide is INSANE day 1

[tranquil umbra]

even then I know that pbod has some truly horrendous clear without explode

[spice pecan]

yeah i love wintertide

[pliant hamlet]

The build scales like dogshit but

it hits crazy numbers day 1

[spice pecan]

yeah i only ever played it for sanctum once

amazing at single target stuff, fuck tryna make it map tho

[tranquil umbra]

yeah I've heard it's good for sanctum

[pliant hamlet]

Arcanist brand is incredibly strong

...if you can solve mana issues

[tranquil umbra]

might do a sanctum league with it eventually

[pliant hamlet]

i tried it out on standard and took off my flask and iirc even with 50% mana reduction it was something like 680 mana/sec

like how tf you manage this lol

[spice pecan]

i really want to do some arcanist brand triggerbot sabo but the mana is just way way too much

[pliant hamlet]

yeah

I was doing soulrend of spiral triggerbot arcanist brand

You have to 0 out the mana

[spice pecan]

oh well yeah, that's like the highest mana cost spell in the game i think

[pseudo axle]

how do people make triple synth implicit items? recombinator?

[pliant hamlet]

yeah, It's not playable in trade 🙁

[spice pecan]

lots and lots and lots of vivid vultures

[spare ore]

that would be awesome

[pliant hamlet]

Harvest til you get 3 synth
then roll them w/ vivid vultures

[worldly bridge]

wait a minute these ratios dont make sense

[tranquil umbra]

if you mean how you get 3 synth mods

[worldly bridge]

oh well

[tranquil umbra]

harvest/div card bullshit

[pliant hamlet]

yeah

[spice pecan]

oh yeah harvest to get 3 first, then roll with vultures

[pseudo axle]

does harvest require a new base each time, or is it a reroll?

[spare ore]

reroll

[pliant hamlet]

I think you can eternal it?

oh you can reroll? i didn't know that

[tranquil umbra]

Synthesise an item, giving random Synthesised implicits. Cannot be used on Unique, Influenced, Synthesised or Fractured items

have to imprint it

[pseudo axle]

ah

thats an annoying process

[pliant hamlet]

If you're in trade

just buy a triple implicit

[tranquil umbra]

yeah people sell those

[warm musk]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3912208

[spare ore]

ah shit i forgot u hada imprint it

[spice pecan]

oh no

oh god no

[tranquil umbra]

Old-school Breaches will be replaced by those introduced in 3.27 Keepers of the Flame, with both Unstable and Hive Breach encounters appearing naturally in areas from Act 6 onwards.

[spare ore]

oh my god why ggg why?

[tranquil umbra]

including the ability to control which type of Breach encounter appears in your maps

ok

saved

[spice pecan]

"There will be the usual Scarab and Atlas Tree support for a core league mechanic, including the ability to control which type of Breach encounter appears in your maps"

at least there's this i guess

[spare ore]

i hope we can block breach in the new league

[spice pecan]

but tree is staying

not really sure how i feel about that

i guess 6 links are just permanently free now

[clear aspen]

The tree was a huge issue for early game progression so I'm really not happy with that

[spice pecan]

i mean on one hand a 6l should feel like a big power spike

[split pagoda]

maybe tree gets nerfed?

[spare ore]

maybe

[spice pecan]

but on the other hand, i feel like that's been the case for maybe too long

[tranquil umbra]

the tree gets nerfed by virtue of not having a guaranteed breach in every single area

yall

[clear aspen]

The only way I see it going is that its now a grind to do so people who rush breach early will supply the whole market

[split pagoda]

well youll still be able to get it on every map pretty quick

[tranquil umbra]

WHAT THIS MEANS IS WE KEEP FOULBORNS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[clear aspen]

I mean atlas nodes will make it guarenteed

the benefit is that not every player will have it on every map

[split pagoda]

and atlas nodes is likely gonna make it even better too

im sure itll be nerfed somehow

copium lol

[tranquil umbra]

they'll probably nerf it

by making it so you get the good points later in progression

also like

how would it even work

without graftblood

[lucid gale]

"Sand of a Breach!", the exiles exclaimed.

[lean urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spaceballs-comb-10N0qMA6FLi4BW

[vast cradle]

Rip old breach XP farm, you will be missed 🙏

[lean urchin]

me looking for loot in 3.28

[tight plinth]

I bet breach is gonna be good when its not the main mechanic

And you can scarab/atlas it to your liking

[tranquil umbra]

the fact that you can pick between the breach hive or old-school breach is great

they'll probably do smth like gate fortresses behind having hives though

[daring tree]

Sorry if this isnt supposed to go here or off topic. I'm looking to make my campaign times faster - does anyone know of any good guides from exile/tyty/or others on how to get better at it?

[tight plinth]

Havoc has a guide

Tuadh is doing a bunch of 2 stone runs with different characters past few days

[tranquil umbra]

yeah you can watch tuadh

see how he optimizes movement in campaign

they are genuinely a machine

[tight plinth]

Yeah i dont think i can do those type of runs

Ill burn out after a few hours

[tranquil umbra]

also hmm where would the genesis tree even be
they wouldn't make a different area just for it

it would be funny if you could just put it in your hideout

[lean urchin]

drop items in hideout??? no way

[tight plinth]

Oh yeah

[tranquil umbra]

oh right

lmao

[tight plinth]

Whats the reason why we cant drop items in ho anyway?

I guess to stop other players from dropping a shitton of items to lag you?

[tranquil umbra]

so that other people can't come in and grief your hideout

[lean urchin]

droppings are to stay in the latrine, away from hideout

[tight plinth]

I think imma be a hive enjoyer next league

[tranquil umbra]

mf gonna be a bee

[worldly bridge]

how do i price check timeless

[spice pecan]

painfully

[worldly bridge]

D:

[tranquil umbra]

1. cry
2. cry harder

[stuck phoenix]

List sky high

Drop price until it sells

[bold scarab]

so what? if no grafts will there still be graftblood? or when you drop a wombgift can you just slap it in the tree instantly?

[stuck phoenix]

I'd assume the gifts will be free to open

[celest skiff]

search the exact number and hope there's already examples to base it on

[bold scarab]

and if that is the case then what about leveling up the tree cuz rn you spend x ammount of graftblood to get most of the points

[stuck phoenix]

Could be fully leveled

Dunno

[bold scarab]

would be nice

[stuck phoenix]

Could be open x gifts

[finite quail]

Tree is not staying

[stuck phoenix]

Could be just gathering the items

[bold scarab]

tree is staying

[tranquil umbra]

Read the post

[finite quail]

What post

[bold scarab]

The Genesis Tree will remain as a method of growing rewards from the flesh of your slain enemies, but Grafts will no longer be available.

[tranquil umbra]

this guy

[stuck phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[celest skiff]

Too bad nobody runs a public record of timeless values

[stuck phoenix]

Eh

[finite quail]

HOW IS THE TREE STAYING

HOW

[stuck phoenix]

It's fun

[half forum]

As it should

[bold scarab]

because it can

[finite quail]

Okay they HAVE to nerf it

they HAVE to

[half forum]

Why

[stuck phoenix]

They're literally taking away graftblood

It's literally changing

[bold scarab]

it wont be fun anymore

kekw

[tranquil umbra]

the nerf is that you have to actively farm breach now

[finite quail]

because GOOD gear is now extremely common and cheap when it shouldnt be

[half forum]

Its great for ssf

[bold scarab]

they are gonna make it just as useless as harvest

[finite quail]

It HAS to be nerfed

[bold scarab]

where all thats left is div gambling

[karmic gust]

now we will need to bring corpses of enemies to tree

[bold scarab]

but in this case probably only used for foulborn uniques

[stuck phoenix]

Just their wombs

[bold scarab]

cuz everything else will be trash

[heady cliff]

Old-school Breaches will be replaced by those introduced in 3.27 Keepers of the Flame, with both Unstable and Hive Breach encounters appearing naturally in areas from Act 6 onwards.

no fortress breach?

[bold scarab]

fortress dont spawn till maps

[heady cliff]

i mean no walled ones?

[tranquil umbra]

so you say until the 20 div wombgift drop

[finite quail]

thats what hives are

[tranquil umbra]

hives are walled ones

[heady cliff]

awful

absolutely awful

[tranquil umbra]

you can edit them out

[finite quail]

keep reading

you can choose which type you want

[bold scarab]

ye if your lucky youll get 1 single div drop in the entire league kek

[finite quail]

in the atlas

[spare ore]

which will happen maybe once in 20 million gifts

[heady cliff]

[heady cliff]

they should have been straight up deleted

[tranquil umbra]

gamblers quit right before they hit big

[heady cliff]

waste of the passive point

[tranquil umbra]

that was the intention I believe

you don't want to deal with them? tough shit buddy

-1 atlas passive

[bold scarab]

now they just need to move over poe2 abyss to replace jun unveiling

[spare ore]

i never hit big wit gambling i always lose :/

[karmic gust]

yet

need to gamble more

[tranquil umbra]

it's like the beyond boss exclusion node

[finite quail]

Honestly I'd be perfectly fine with getting poe 2's abyss in poe 1

[half forum]

The power of yet

[finite quail]

But

Not as the league mechanic

It has to be a separate thing added on top

[bold scarab]

both

[finite quail]

the actual league itself needs to be something different

[bold scarab]

abyss is kinda bad

like

shallow

[tranquil umbra]

too late for that buddy enjoy crafting now costing 1 mirror to get into

[finite quail]

what

[tranquil umbra]

poe2 economy joke

[finite quail]

i wouldnt know

i dont play poe 2

[tranquil umbra]

it's worse than affliction rn

somehow

[half forum]

You will soon buddy

[finite quail]

Nah not realy

I played a bit of werewolf but I just got tired

[half forum]

They are adding RF next league

[finite quail]

Okay?

I've never played with rf

[half forum]

3 charges every wednsday

[hard cliff]

We need a pvp card game league

[finite quail]

And I won't ever play with it

[tranquil umbra]

brutally massacred RF

[finite quail]

no we dont

[tranquil umbra]

we need a pvp sanctum league

[finite quail]

NO we DONT

[bleak shore]

Gwent Leauge.

[finite quail]

rf but it has a fixed duration and a 10 second cooldown

[tranquil umbra]

RF now costs one endurance charge every server tick

actually no

RF now bypasses your resistance

[native abyss]

all enemies now have RF as a buff

[ebon tendon]

💀

[finite quail]

That's what you'll look like after using rf

[ebon tendon]

Funny

Rf when -1% max res

[pliant hamlet]

👀 The Genesis Tree will remain as a method of growing rewards from the flesh of your slain enemies, but Grafts will no longer be available

That's surprising

[tranquil umbra]

tbh if that's how they make Foulborns stay in the game, I'm 100% down for it

[odd fox]

so if I got this correct the shit breach wall bs is going core but you can choose which breach you want(old or new) but they are also getting rid of grafts. this is so weird

[tranquil umbra]

grafts are definitely kinda overpowered

for how free they are

[odd fox]

that is true

my graft gives me like free 4k hp with 100% uptime(100% uptime is expensive to roll for, but im sure there are cheap OP ones for other builds)

but why is breach 2.0 going core, who asked for this wtf

[spice pecan]

i mean at least you can block the wave breaches on atlas or with scarabs

[odd fox]

what a waste of pixels on my atlas tree

also don't tell me I have to spend more atlas points to block breach 2.0

[spice pecan]

probably just to block the wave ones

[tranquil umbra]

there will be a keystone probably

like the beyond boss keystone

it just makes sense

[odd fox]

they better give us more atlas points for that shit

[tranquil umbra]

it's one point dawg

if you are actually speccing into breach

otherwise just block it completely if you really REALLY do not want to see it there is a node for that

[worldly bridge]

i should run cloister ritual more

this isnt even like, well planned out or anything

or ritual idols

[thick goblet]

huh they're keeping tree? either it has to be neutered enough to be useless for rares or another league where rog is worthless and mid game gear is free

[tranquil umbra]

they will probably nerf it with level requirements

instead of feeding graftblood to it

you have to level up your character to unlock more nodes

[odd fox]

that would make sense

[tranquil umbra]

also idk about you but I'm personally fine with mid game gear being cheap

[odd fox]

i heavily rely on skill gems for defense and offence(during mid game) so the tree makes no difference

[worldly bridge]

tree is great for you then

free 6l

[odd fox]

that is true

[wheat sinew]

Woooo genesis tree remains

Back to slumber

[hallow saffron]

more like boooo

[odd fox]

as long as I can get 6l for 1 alch lmao

[thick goblet]

felt too easy in ssf imo

[wheat sinew]

Happiness

will be the usual Scarab and Atlas Tree support for a core league mechanic, including the ability to control which type of Breach encounter appears in your maps, if you have a preference one way or another!

Last part is joy

[wheat sinew]

Kind of appreciate that part ngl

[tranquil umbra]

listen I understand some people want mid game gear to be a meaningful upgrade but all I can say is you pick the buttons you press

[modern zinc]

I'm gonna have to post in #1019646743299764255 before the league starts

I can do all content but it's slow and I feel like I could be even tankier

I died a few times in the It that Esh & Tul fight

[tight plinth]

i wonder how you gonna get the tree to work without grafts and no graftblood

[modern zinc]

I'm sure they might go core

just replace breach

[tight plinth]

it is going core

[spice pecan]

you probably get wombgifts as drops from the breaches

and just no more blood idk

[tight plinth]

no need for graftbloods i suppose

just pop em in and bam

[modern zinc]

bam

[ember goblet]

wombgifts become untradable

[spice pecan]

nah i dont think that will happen

[odd fox]

they will just make wombgifts a bit rare

thats all

[ember goblet]

do you have any evidence

[tight plinth]

idk about that, so youre gonna do a breach and potentially get nothing

[tranquil umbra]

it's called speculation

[spice pecan]

my dad works at jagex, he told me

[ember goblet]

oh ooo oh oh ohooohh oooh

[tight plinth]

is your dad ash?

[odd fox]

ash ketchup

[spice pecan]

no my dad is cammy from street fighter

[tight plinth]

cammy works in jagex

[spice pecan]

she is british after all

[tight plinth]

wait cammy is bri ish?

[spice pecan]

she's from england yeah

in the lore

[ember goblet]

brits better than frenchies thats for sure

[modern zinc]

ew

Announcements - What Will Happen When the Keepers League Ends

[tight plinth]

i thought she was from america bald eagle screeches in the distance

[modern zinc]

interesting

[spice pecan]

nope, ken and guile are the US ones

[ember goblet]

old news unc (1hr ago)

[tight plinth]

charlie is american yeah?

[modern zinc]

I was in bed

[ember goblet]

is your bed running

[spice pecan]

oh nash is american sure, but i only know the sf2 roster nationality mostly

[tight plinth]

thawk real american

[spice pecan]

he's mexican

lol

[mighty plover]

hola soy nuevito estuve jugando y eso ya soy como lvl 16 pero me gustaria entender mas el proceso con alguien

[spice pecan]

holy shit

[tight plinth]

goddamn

how much for mirror service on that badboy?

[spice pecan]

600d

probably

[worldly bridge]

do i gamble a single apoth

[tight plinth]

always yes

[spice pecan]

do you hate money

if so, yes

[umbral crag]

Damn foulborn rathpith almost 200d now

[worldly bridge]

ez

i shouldnt

i really shouldnt

the juice calls me

[pseudo axle]

not even doing double corrupt gamba smh

[spice pecan]

i just realized the guy who made the worst poe guide video also did one for stardew

huge

[worldly bridge]

KFLASFDKJLDSHKLSDHJ

AAAAAAAa

[tranquil umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/help-gif-9858523764566581784

[wraith rock]

would GGG make room for more exclusion nodes? because one node was replaced

in atlas

[tight plinth]

you lost it all didnt you?

[fickle glen]

I had no idea rats can attack you in this game until now when I got attacked by a rare rat 🐀

[worldly bridge]

no

im going to get more juice an dsell to get the belt

[tranquil umbra]

they'll just add it back

they only replaced it for this league

[hard cliff]

very scary

[livid quarry]

arent the cards worth more than the belt?

if u actually had 5/5

[worldly bridge]

2 cards for like 43 divines, 4.5k yellow juice, and 3 divines to roll flasks

[worldly bridge]

idc

i just want the belt

[livid quarry]

i just meant u might hvae gotten it if sold 4 card

[tranquil umbra]

it doesn't feel the same

if you buy it

[worldly bridge]

my initla plan was ot farm harvest until i could buy it

[hallow birch]

anyone else dcing when traveling to someones hideout for a purchase? happens a few times a day

[spare ore]

true

[tawdry olive]

least gambling addicted POE player

[fringe harness]

does my attack inflict bleed if i deal no phys?
if no, is there away to inflict it when i cant deal phys?

[spice pecan]

you cannot proc bleed without some physical damage

[tawdry olive]

you need to deal phys damage to bleed normally, there's been builds in that past that converted 99% but left 1% so you could bleed/poison

just to trigger effects

[spice pecan]

yeah some builds take like the bottom right bleed wheel just for extra crit, as long as they have at least a little phys

[tranquil umbra]

I haven't ever dropped an apothecary

[tawdry olive]

but you might jsut kill yourself from reflect because god knows even 1% of 1% could kill you

[final owl]

I dropped my first apoth in phrecia 2

[livid quarry]

gamble

[native token]

I love that we have perma tree

Perfect

[final owl]

you think it's going in unchanged for some reason?

[finite quail]

nerfed tree

:3

giga nerfed

hopefully

[final owl]

if tree is actually unchanged, gifts will be hard to come by

if gifts are easy to come by, tree will be giga nerfed

[opaque wing]

It has to remain competitive as the primary reward of Breach, so I don't think it'll be a giga nerfed as people as crying for

[finite quail]

Eh, disagree

[native token]

I hope it's the same

[finite quail]

It should be nerfed and gifts should drop less frequently

[native token]

It's fun to make gear with it

[finite quail]

In its current state its far too strong to get insane gear for basically nothing

[earnest raven]

Slot machine tree

[native token]

It's just good starter geae

[finite quail]

Completely invalidates early game crafting because you just tree everything into existence

[native token]

Nothing you use after week 1

[modern zinc]

I like hybrid builds because it's kinda easy to get lots of Life + ES on gear
and just the flat bulkyness already gives you so much tankyness

[finite quail]

Brother I don't think you understand

[final owl]

it makes legion irrelevant, it makes gettitng 6L inexciting, it makes early crafting kinda irrelevant

[finite quail]

The amount of really good gear that poops out the tree is very high

And people sell that gear most of the time

So it doesnt matter if you dont get good gear from it too often

Other people do, and you buy that gear

[native token]

Idc what people sell tbh. I just want to make my own gear

[leaden mural]

I don’t think people realize not being in keepers league how unfun leveling that tree will be day 1 and 2. Not having breach in every zone

[finite quail]

Good gear should be difficult to get

[honest panther]

I dont recall, what happens to gold when leagues merge? Should I spend all my gold in phrecia?

[finite quail]

Adds ur gold to parent league

[modern zinc]

next league mechanic is gonna be even more poggers

no one will care about that shitty old tree

Dreamer is a bad guy anyway

[leaden mural]

Like I can’t imagine new league coming out and me spending my first day trying to level the tree while doing atlas to make money. That sounds like a waste of time. Now late game sure for certain foulbornes and max out breach nodes but early progression not without keepers

[livid quarry]

are phercia players stille hyped bout next leag

[modern zinc]

I'm always hyped about next league

new poe1 league in march, new poe2 league in april

poe 3 when

[spare ore]

we aint need a poo3 poe1 is good enough

[modern zinc]

yeah poe1 is amazing

[opaque wing]

PoE3 is PoE Mobile that's being confirmed at Exilecon

[modern zinc]

idk why they made poe2

[modern zinc]

glorious

I hope it's an idle game

[finite quail]

duh

[modern zinc]

this way I can play it while I play the other poes

[native token]

Maybe we get tota aswell in 3.28

[final owl]

oh i'm over phrecia. I'm in delve trying to self-find and kill Aul just for the hell of it

[finite quail]

I remember when they announced poe mobile at exilecon and it was basically poe 2 gameplay in poe 1 maps, and the phones people played on heated up super hard during gameplay

if poe mobile is still being developed which isnt likely, its gonna need a complete graphical overhaul for it

[opaque wing]

Tota probably isn't happening until they finish their current stated stack of stuff, including unique rewards of sanctum

[native token]

Tota best mechanic

[finite quail]

No thanks

Tota looked mid

I don't wanna sit in a tournament for half an hour when I could be mapping instead

[opaque wing]

Then don't, the glory of PoE is that you control your endgame.

[final owl]

whatever it is i just hope it's not more delayed rewards

[finite quail]

Exactly, I wont

[surreal musk]

they should just remove provisioning wombgifts only have unique/currency as rewards or even just unique

[finite quail]

I just hope they dont spend their time getting tota back when they could spend that time adding something else

[native token]

Tota was alot fun for me

Beside delve best mechanic

Still sad that they turned delve as a half a mirror per hour strat to something worse

[finite quail]

half a chaos per day

[native token]

From half a mirror per hour

[modern zinc]

I want to make a void farmer build in 3.28

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-cat-chat-larry-meme-chat-meme-cat-gif-10061556685042597078

[tranquil umbra]

having the tree exclusively for uniques/foulborns is not a bad idea at all tbh

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[livid quarry]

feels like extra step

should just drop if only uniques

[tranquil umbra]

[hard cliff]

Another facebook mechanic

Just like Settlers and Betrayal

😩

[tranquil umbra]

idk man I'm fine with the current tree as a core mechanic because I don't really care about the progression

[wraith rock]

tree diarrhea

[final owl]

I don't care so long as i'm not forced to wait around for scant little waves of breach dudes protecting someone chalupa can just regenerates whenever they want

[wraith rock]

now..i think there's odd number of contents..will GGG make room for odd number in atlas?

[tranquil umbra]

breach already has a spot for itself

[wraith rock]

heist wasn't there before

[tranquil umbra]

?

[worldly bridge]

what do i play now thast i ahve a mb

with four days left

[wraith rock]

heist was replaced with rock ores

[tranquil umbra]

they will just replace the heist block node

no?

Heist was in 3.26

[fickle glen]

What is a good cluster jewel for a mace user?

[wraith rock]

yeah but i dont want heist either

[tranquil umbra]

that is an entirely separate statement than what you said before

[gritty garnet]

don't forget to top up your tree with rogue markers

maces get fortify cluster (overlord) which is always nice if you're not in duelist area

[wraith rock]

hence odd number of exclusives...

[opaque wing]

They'll probably just yeet one of the less used ones and still have an even number

[tranquil umbra]

yeah can we send torment to hell pls

what do they even do

[opaque wing]

A lot of quant boosting

But also not relevant as they're not blockable content

[wraith rock]

IMO they should buff torment mechanic..make the ghosts less stupid and aggro to rares screenwide and offscreen

[tranquil umbra]

they'll just replace the heist block node for the breach block node
aka revert what they did for this league

[worldly bridge]

good

thats what they do

[wraith rock]

from what i understand, any additional content will be in the pool of chance of spawning in maps so putting heist in the unblockable list(again) when people don't want to do heist

[opaque wing]

That is likely yes

[worldly helm]

looks like GGG teased scion ascendancy

[wraith rock]

so it's a con for players who don't do heist

[opaque wing]

Yes, you will have to probably accept that, just like it used to be in the past

[finite quail]

torment needs a complete rework

[tranquil umbra]

you can just
not click smuggler's caches?

like I'm sorry what is this complaint

[finite quail]

torment has always been mid

[wraith rock]

it affects the chance of spawning other contents in maps

[finite quail]

mid mechanic, mid niche strats

mid scarabs

mid tree nodes

[tranquil umbra]

and are you not already guaranteeing the mechanics you actually want to farm?

[finite quail]

It's like

[wraith rock]

no...

[finite quail]

part of an era of poe that doesn't really work anymore

[tranquil umbra]

what.

[opaque wing]

I assume they're meaning, that it takes up space in the map, which can take away from spawns of content you do want, like how spawning betrayal can reduce the number of harbingers in your map

[worldly bridge]

ok but doesnt this apply for literally every other form of content

[opaque wing]

Which sucks, but its something that just is how the game works

[worldly bridge]

why are you only arguing for heist

[wraith rock]

unless you use scarabs to guarantee it

[fickle glen]

It’s always gross when you kill these giant spiders and then baby spiders come out of their womb ready to fight too lol

[worldly bridge]

not true

[final owl]

I'm no spiderologist but i'm pretty sure they don't have.. wombs.

[worldly bridge]

you can guarentee with chance on the tree +8% base chance

i think its 8

[wraith rock]

which content is 100% in every map?

[tranquil umbra]

you spec into it

[worldly bridge]

whateve content you click on the atlas tree??

[fickle glen]

These baby spiders break them open tho

[worldly bridge]

like whatre you talking about blwagh

i dont see the problem here

its gonna be a SINGLE NODE change

youre gonna live

your div per hour is gonna be fine

[wraith rock]

im talking about bigger picture here...if poe is still popular decades later, there will be much more bloated contents

[worldly bridge]

its been out for over a decade

[final owl]

so long as i can avoid walls covering 30% of my maps and i don't have to do defense breaches i'm ok with it

[worldly bridge]

i think that issue would have occured by now

[fickle glen]

It’s not

[worldly bridge]

and they have fixed it

youre being bad faith and just wanna argue

[opaque wing]

They'll have to address that sure, and they will when it becomes a problem, which it isn't yet

[worldly bridge]

i say we all just disengage

[surreal musk]

its not hard to understand why people are unhappy , theyve been dealing with annoying ass walls in their maps for 3 months and now they are gonna have to spend atlas point tax to block breach if they dont want it to happen in 8% or whatever of their maps now

[wraith rock]

yeah and another decade from now

[worldly bridge]

wait youre telling me a LIVE SERVICE game needs to keep UP TO DATE and LIVE to stay relevant and popular?

nooooooo

how will they surivive, being forced to FIX THINGS

its over guys, wrap it up, poe1 dead before its even lived

[worldly bridge]

now saying it like this is much more reasonable

i can see where tahts coming from

[wraith rock]

finallly

finally

[tranquil umbra]

yeah and if you really do not want it then you spec into the block node

[worldly bridge]

i hope they make a change to the walls or just remove them all together

[final owl]

I just don't like new breach much. but I kinda feel the same way about it as i do Kingsmarch. I can deal so long as I don't have to interact with it

[tranquil umbra]

that's the beauty of the atlas tree

[worldly bridge]

dont be so high and mighty, you were being kind of a jerk

i was only mirroring you

if they end up not changing the walls, then youre not gonna brick your strat spending four points to block breach

[wraith rock]

and then there will be 10 more..my point is the exclusives should be free and not in the tree

[worldly bridge]

most people block content of various forms anyway even if it is actively detrimental to them

[wraith rock]

you were acting ignorant

[tranquil umbra]

I have never had random extra content actively hinder me

you can just ignore them

[wraith rock]

it reduces chance of spawning other contents and I asked you before - which content is 100%?

[tranquil umbra]

the ones I spec into

are you this dense

[wraith rock]

which is..?

no, cuz that's not true

[worldly bridge]

sigh

alright fine ill play

no there is no content that is inherently 100% chance to spawn

[modern zinc]

I think I'm gonna try Ice Crash

looks like a very good clear skill with it's huge aoe

[wraith rock]

thats why I asked you which ones

[fickle glen]

I wish I could fly like maven does :<

[wraith rock]

Abyss for example doesn't have 100% even with atlas

[pseudo axle]

there are some with 100% with atlas

[tranquil umbra]

ah of course you pick the only mechanic that has a unique way to cap its appearance rate

[pseudo axle]

betrayal has 100% chance to cap appearance via atlas

[tranquil umbra]

to the block list you go funny man

[pseudo axle]

abyss is a bad example considering that entire mechanic is probably F-tier out of all possible atlas mechanics to choose from

[wraith rock]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[fickle glen]

Noooo warrrr I dooo?

[spice pecan]

tfw it was S tier last league

[tranquil umbra]

abyss fissure of snaking

[pseudo axle]

yeah I'm annoyed I missed out on that opportunity tbh but I had a worse laptop at the time

sadge

[tranquil umbra]

abyss is good for leveling

that's like the best thing about it

[worldly bridge]

whats the base % chance for content to sapwn again

is it 8 or 2

[spice pecan]

8% iirc

[tranquil umbra]

it depends

[cobalt blade]

depends on the content

most are 8% some 12

[tranquil umbra]

the npc tied mechanics are 2%

none of them are 12

[worldly bridge]

ok so abyss is 100%

without blocking

[cobalt blade]

wasnt box 12

or shrines

i feel like one of them was

[tranquil umbra]

box is 24

[cobalt blade]

ah 24 i see

[worldly bridge]

this + literally any rare map

[tranquil umbra]

Shrines it says unknown so uh

[worldly bridge]

grab all the other abyss stuff too ofc

and you get 100% xdd

so yes even abyss can be 100% with low investment

[tranquil umbra]

Mika they are baiting just ignore them

[worldly bridge]

yea i know

but theyr ealso just wrong

and i cant let that stand

[cobalt blade]

then make it sit D:

[tranquil umbra]

they are baiting by saying Abyss because they know that Abyss has a unique way of capping chance to appear

[worldly bridge]

76% from tree + 8% from base + at least 16% from map mods

and if youre complaining that you can get 100% abyss 1 hour into maps then youre just dumb

[fickle glen]

Can my chaos resistance reduce the damage this flask does to me?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[worldly bridge]

yes

[tranquil umbra]

yeah they use it with CI

jk

[fickle glen]

Excellent

[worldly bridge]

hey its 10% spell suppress

and phasing

its not useless with ci

[tranquil umbra]

just get a regular ass flask

[fickle glen]

I found this, it’s my treasure!

[cobalt blade]

yo if you use it with supreme decadence and CI you get .7 ES on use!

(actually dont know if it converts to 100% es on use or not with decadence but i assume not)

[tranquil umbra]

I didn't say that to you

forbidden taste is funny

[worldly bridge]

ok i think i wanna try and play some melee before phrecia is over

with my new mb

but idk what i wanna play or if i have enough currency to build anytying

[tranquil umbra]

Vaal Ground Slam technology trust

[worldly bridge]

any suggestions

i like ground slam

what do you play it on aristocrat?

[tranquil umbra]

oh no I really mean vaal ground slam that was my crackpot idea before they buffed the shit out of wildspeaker

it was meant for architect of chaos

[worldly bridge]

weird

[tranquil umbra]

the funniest melee build I can offer you is of course flicker but uh

[gritty epoch]

Why'd they delete grafts

[worldly bridge]

ive never played flicker

[tranquil umbra]

oh really

[worldly bridge]

it just doesnt really interest me

[tranquil umbra]

phrecia is great to get a taste of flicker

[worldly bridge]

i could give it a shot

wildspeakeryeah?

[tranquil umbra]

yeah

[worldly bridge]

you just get free frenzy upon second lab

i think

[tranquil umbra]

normally starting flicker is pure aids but wildspeaker lets you start after cruel lab

[worldly bridge]

i kinda want something to do legion actually

[final owl]

i started flicker in keepers and it wasn't aids at all :I

[worldly bridge]

flicker is a strike so thats kinda yikers

[cobalt blade]

whar about spark scavenger eblade

low life w/ shavs

[spice pecan]

and obliteration

[cursive radish]

Did poe 2 got full released yet ?

[spice pecan]

no

[livid quarry]

whats wrong with flicker being a strike

[worldly bridge]

can you do low life without traitor keystone

[tranquil umbra]

flicker works for legion if you are not doing schism

[cobalt blade]

i think youd go void batt over oblit

[spice pecan]

oh yeah void battery is in there too

[cobalt blade]

shavs enables you not to use coruscating

on scav

[worldly bridge]

oh trueeeeee

[spice pecan]

yeah but ivory tower + coruscating + cloak of flame

that also sounds sweet

[cobalt blade]

eh cloak isnt that needed

[spice pecan]

and then you use traitor until you f/f pathfinder

gg

[cobalt blade]

you can just click the es/arm mastery 5% es on taking phys damage lol

[tranquil umbra]

you really don't need cloak yeah

[spice pecan]

i fucking hate physical damage

[worldly bridge]

but why spark

[cobalt blade]

spark fun

really just pick any spell skill though

[tranquil umbra]

eblade can use

[worldly bridge]

doesnt eblade only work for attacks

[tranquil umbra]

any spell

[cobalt blade]

spellblade

[spice pecan]

spellblade support

[tranquil umbra]

battlemage

[cobalt blade]

you can also do attacks tho yeah

oh yeah battlemage is also on the scav nodes isnt it

[tranquil umbra]

yep

[cobalt blade]

over going void batt

[spice pecan]

nycta's lantern

[cobalt blade]

lmao

shiit now i wanna build it

[tranquil umbra]

that's why if they add scav to core

[cobalt blade]

forgot nycta's was there

[tranquil umbra]

I am building eblade

[tranquil umbra]

arguably inquis is still better but not having to use coruscating is nice qol

[worldly bridge]

waitiwatiwatiwaitwait

kinetic bolt

[tranquil umbra]

again

[worldly bridge]

does that work with fury valve shenanigans

[tranquil umbra]

oh you mean a different bıild uh

[worldly bridge]

i want to try a wander again

[cobalt blade]

id say scions better because you get more points =more total ES

[worldly bridge]

i want to make it work

ok i gotta go do smth brb

[tranquil umbra]

that's one way to look at it

[cobalt blade]

you also get better pathing

[tranquil umbra]

you do miss out on crit with scav

[cobalt blade]

and can abuse scion jewel sockets better

[tranquil umbra]

but yeah

[cobalt blade]

i feel like you can make that crit up with mageblood

over not needing to go traitor

[tranquil umbra]

that is true

perma diamond flask

[cobalt blade]

yea

also res flasks more int on your gear

/85-90 max res

and lethal pride over brutal restraint for more str

[worldly bridge]

oughh chieftan mb 🤤

i love me rf

[tranquil umbra]

in phrecia?

[cobalt blade]

waow your rf now? /silly

[worldly bridge]

Was

In keepers

[tranquil umbra]

I've seen connor using militant faith actually

[cobalt blade]

yeah thats another option

[worldly bridge]

Everytime im like ok no more builds im getting bored i go tempt fate

[cobalt blade]

i like that option if you get min frenzy on your reflected ring

otherwise dont think its worth losing frenzies and no sane person wears ralakesh on an eblade char

you lose way too much

[tranquil umbra]

watch

[cobalt blade]

[tranquil umbra]

that is gonna be my aspirational build though if it's even possible to begin with because who knows what exactly they will be doing with scion next league

[cobalt blade]

im hopeful its just second scion ascend and we can steal shavs on jewels

[tranquil umbra]

meanwhile we'll be doing blight gaming

[cobalt blade]

id rather actual ascendant but with the odd good node from scav

[terse topaz]

whoah the tree is staying? dang i guess 6L for everyone day 1 then unless it's mega nerfed

[spice pecan]

less access to wombgifts since breach wont be in every single area

but yeah 6Ls will be easier still

[terse topaz]

yeah, it still seems like rushing breach at beginning of endgame might still be the way to go, but youre right that for most people it will be at least another day of playing to get enough blood to upgrade the tree to get the good equipment branch set up

[fickle glen]

Really? Omg I love that tree

[hard cliff]

where are you getting this info

[terse topaz]

lol it trivialized pretty much all gear below tier 16 maps in my opinion. It just fills that mid-tier gap perfectly in early endgame to the point it was better than anything else

[spice pecan]

read the news channel

[fickle glen]

Yes that’s what I was thinking too!

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt call invalidating all the other ways of gearing perfectly filling in the early game lol

its kinda boring

[final owl]

the tree is staying. I don't think it's clear if it will be modified / toned down via any of the obvious methods though (how easy to obtain gifts are, will it still require blood, etc)

[hard cliff]

it's a scion video bro

[cobalt blade]

#ggg-tracker

when keepers league ends

[terse topaz]

i would not be surprised if the equipment branch is reworked and doesn't print 6l gear with at least 3 or 4 BIS affixes

[hard cliff]

that's not a news channel

[spice pecan]

oh not sure why its not in news

[fickle glen]

Naca anything below tier 15 doesn’t give any good gears

[spice pecan]

but yeah

[cobalt blade]

your not a news channel

[cobalt blade]

yep and you had to run essences harvest or use fossils to make some basic gear

[hard cliff]

cool

[spice pecan]

new breach stays too, both kinds

[cobalt blade]

now you click the tree like 10-20 times and your done

just kinda boring

[hard cliff]

not good

[spice pecan]

but you can use scarabs/atlas to disable certain types of breaches

[fickle glen]

That tree will make it good to get good gears

[spice pecan]

i wonder if we get breachstones back

[final owl]

I don't think it makes sense for tree to stay and it be as powerful / accessible as it was. we will see I guess

[terse topaz]

hm, i would also hope they either dramatically increase the speed of the defense one or even increase the top end difficulty. (or just delete walls lol...).

[cobalt blade]

for early gearing yes

[crisp plinth]

Damn waking up to bad news, rip old breach

[fickle glen]

Most people that don’t want it are just worried about their market sales. Pretty selfish if you ask me.

[livid quarry]

feels like the game is balanced for grindy poe players

[crisp plinth]

You're unraveling a big mystery in a game made by grinding gear games

[final owl]

the only thing they needed to make core was foulborn stuff imho. otherwise reverting to old breach is a strict upgrade

[livid quarry]

[terse topaz]

yeah i was mildly hoping they would just add "enfouling" orbs or something and the new pinnacle boss. But again I think at least tree will have some kind of balance pass.

[hard cliff]

hopefully not take twenty minutes to allocate every league

[bold scarab]

In the grand scheme of things the gear is pretty bad

[fickle glen]

Not bad for early gearing, grand schemes will wait until endgame

[bold scarab]

Functionally tho it will be massive for just getting your char going

[bold scarab]

Ye not bad for early

Assuming they don't gut it before it releases again

Cuz they trashed harvest beyond recognition already

[crisp plinth]

Tree invalidated all mid map gear they have to gut it

[final owl]

and a handful of mechanics are almost irrelevant because of it

[strong viper]

ik this is the chat for poe1 but does anyone here know when the next league for poe2 is?

[bold scarab]

More like it solves a problem that existed in that space

[final owl]

why would you not just ask that question in the poe2 chat

[cobalt blade]

never its cancelled now

[crisp plinth]

Actually needing to find updates is t a problem

[final owl]

clicking the channel down there is less effort than typing the question in the wrong game channel

[crisp plinth]

It's what the game is about

Tree shits out 6ls and very good equipment early

[nimble bay]

BUSTIN HOFFMAN

[hard cliff]

we need a delve rework that integrates it maps into delve

[final owl]

yes, tree is like someone just handing you a 6L and a 1000dps axe day1. the journey is the point, not the destination

[cobalt blade]

yeeeep^^

[fickle glen]

Everyone has a different playstyle

[cobalt blade]

gearing faster doesnt really make the game funner it just makes you quit faster once you reach your goal

[fickle glen]

Says you!

[cobalt blade]

yup and it holds true

[opaque wing]

Not universally

[cobalt blade]

i quit once noticeable upgrades start costing over a mirror unless the league is really fun

[final owl]

yeah. once achievable upgrades aren't on the table i lose interest

[livid quarry]

i quit once an upgrade start costing more than 30d

[cobalt blade]

(per item and noticeable being around 3-5% defence or damage combined ish)

[terse topaz]

agreed, everyone has a investment, time or currency, where subsequent upgrades are just too expensive the for power or content they unlock, mines also at the 50-100 divines level.

[cobalt blade]

yeah

[light kiln]

i was buying 1k ES body armour for less then 50c day3 lol, the gearing aspect is just lost at that point

[final owl]

it depends on the build and league for me. I bought lucky block jewels in keepers, but that's past my usual investment level

[light kiln]

and already 6l also, its crazy

[final owl]

it just seems dumb to make so many things largely irrelevant via bringing in a mechanic that just craps out crazy amounts of gear the existing mechanics can't compete with

[cobalt blade]

yeah and you could spend like 2-3 div to get that with t1 fucking int and open suffix for % att at one point lmao

[light kiln]

yeah

the tree is just too OP in my opinion

maybe they can nerf the weighting for tier 1,2 to be more rarer

[final owl]

there are a few very straight forward ways they can tone it down

[light kiln]

its crazy to think people walking with almost perfect t1 ES day 3

[heady cliff]

thats not exactly how it works

[final owl]

we wait to see if they choose the stupidest possible one, or none at all I guess

[heady cliff]

you quit when noticeable upgrades take too much time to farm

that would be a different points with 3 div/h farms or 50 div/h farms

[cobalt blade]

yeah thats like a day and a half per upgrade

[crisp plinth]

Well tree is either mandatory or a waste of time no in between most likely

[opaque wing]

I think that tree is probably going to be mildly touched, and it'll last for a few leagues before getting majorly hit, not because of balance concerns, but more a change of pace as GGG moves for metashifts.

[crisp plinth]

Also rip breachstone levelling

[terse topaz]

dang, and now I just remembered about merc league. I know they said theyd add them back, but I literally have no idea how they could adequately nerf without destroying what made them interesting

[light kiln]

yeah thats what i hope, i really hope they kinda nerf the tree a bit

[cobalt blade]

your force linked to them

if they die you die gl

[final owl]

I don't want mercs back :/

[spice pecan]

i want mercs back so badly so i can aurabot again

[terse topaz]

lol mercs felt more like an "event" than a league with how they warped the meta

[light kiln]

lmao true

[final owl]

just give more options for player builds, don't distribute that additional power to a dumb extra NPC I have to RNG find and then spend time gearing up. bleg

"oh no my doryani merc died I will leave this map now"

[cobalt blade]

i like it when the merc your gearing involves alot of rares

[heady cliff]

FUN DETECTED, NERFHAMMER EXPECTED

[cobalt blade]

if ur just grabbing 8 uniques to toss on them its boring as hell though

[opaque wing]

But the dumb NPC enables usage of existing things in new interesting ways. The problem is that a few outlier examples like Doryani's warped the entire game around them.

[terse topaz]

maybe just deleting the item quant but keep the difficulty increase? and maybe toning down the number of auras you can have

[heady cliff]

min resistance of 0 for mercs solves dory

[light kiln]

giving player 2 aura for free is kinda dumb ngl

[heady cliff]

for 50% more monster health?

thats not free

[cobalt blade]

i like the reflected ring base route

[light kiln]

do you really notice the difference ?

[heady cliff]

50% more? sure

[bold scarab]

Make it 3 then

[final owl]

I have never liked having to think about / deal with multiple characters in any RPG, A or otherwise

[livid quarry]

did u guys not have to recall mercs all the time becuz they would die form degen

[cobalt blade]

these ones 5:1 to get a craftable one and hope you get a good mist

needed to craft 2 but it solved their defence rly well

[light kiln]

you get more loot tho, so that 2 benefit for 1 downside

[potent horizon]

I feel the same way minus dragon age series

[earnest raven]

Quatro

[fickle glen]

I play them all

[bold scarab]

Lol

[heady cliff]

the point is that auras are not free

[terse topaz]

lol it was crazy how many more gear slots you had to think about

[spice pecan]

this is why i did single character tactician runs of BG3 and DoS2

[light kiln]

i was thinking the more hp is more to a downside for more loot

[cobalt blade]

i just liked crafting gear for them to force them to live the most fucked up maps

was kinda fun

[light kiln]

rather than for the free aura

[cobalt blade]

toss them into 3-4 risk maps

[potent horizon]

Dos2 is so good I love lone wolf as a perk

[crisp plinth]

Port Merc ui to animate guardian and we're golden

[final owl]

I just find I can care about one guy.. my guy. and that's it. anything further is an annoyance

[spice pecan]

even with lone wolf, 1 character tactician was still way harder than bg3

[bold scarab]

I've been saying that since merc league

[final owl]

plus mercs mean you get to marinade in the decidedly mid experience that is minions in PoE

[potent horizon]

Oh dang I didn't expect that for some reason I can't find the ability to just get passed act 2 on BG3 I always quit I need to stick to one run until I finish it

But divinity is so good I played through it twice

[empty bronze]

so was there any secret stuff in phrecia this time?

[onyx adder]

Im the same

[cobalt blade]

only weird mods on the phrecia risks

afaik

[onyx adder]

I think i just really hate turn based combat in games that can have 30 participants at a time

[spice pecan]

i need to replay bg3 now that they patched it a bunch, i did my run on release

[cobalt blade]

like increased/reduced char size inc damage while dead einhar exile hunter and atziri i think

might be one or 2 i missed

[onyx adder]

I tried multiple times and yea theres a good game in there somewhere if u could decouple it from the shitty rpg systems its based on

[final owl]

honestly feel like Einhar slipped someone at GGG some cash to make sure he was in literally every map you ran

[livid quarry]

i used to hate beasts but with trade i find them useful

[cobalt blade]

i only encountered him as the exilehunter in vaal pyramid when he rolled there for the hour or whatever when i was running some destiny lairs

if you mean actual einhar encounters just dont put in einhar idols

[livid quarry]

bought many matron from auction

[final owl]

I removed einher from my idols! ofc

he was still in what felt like at leastt 80% of my maps

[livid quarry]

and run out of rare beast

[cobalt blade]

holy

[final owl]

honestly annoying you can't just fully block him

[cobalt blade]

i hope they reduce the gold costs of these but i love being able to buy full tabs of em with async

[onyx adder]

In any case u dont need to do anything with einhar beasts that u dont want to

[potent horizon]

Have you played Warhammer 40k rogue trader?

[onyx adder]

Theyre not dangerous

So u can just run past them if their existence offends u

[final owl]

but they are annoying.

[spice pecan]

i have not

[cobalt blade]

they are on day 1 if they roll soul eater

[final owl]

Red beasts tend to .. chase?

[cobalt blade]

they really like rolling soul eater in my experience

[night lagoon]

What if i want to pet them einhar beasts?

[potent horizon]

I just bought it and it's interesting reminds me of pathfinder kingmaker a little bit

[onyx adder]

Pretty much every red beast is too slow to chase u

[onyx adder]

I dint know that

Im sold

[terse topaz]

lol red beasts with soul eater if youre entering t16 maps feels absolutely horrible lol

[onyx adder]

Kingmaker is rly good

[potent horizon]

And KOTOR yo knights of the old republic is one of my favorite games of all time

[livid quarry]

what do u do with full tab?

[potent horizon]

Kingmaker is awesome

[earnest raven]

Im surprised hes a bother. Even when i wasnt farming beasts anymore, i would just ignore

[night lagoon]

Same devs

[cobalt blade]

vivid vultures or just crafting shit with matrons

[onyx adder]

Yea soul eater sucks if ur trying to do the content im suggesting just walk past em if u dont like em

[livid quarry]

ahh when i play flicker beasts always slow me down

[cobalt blade]

or beast locking stuff

[onyx adder]

Which beats soul eater

[potent horizon]

Ahhhh that explains it they did great the Warhammer aspect is awesome you can even be a psyker

[cobalt blade]

ya doesnt always work depending on the map your in at league start doing your atlas completion tho

[blissful zodiac]

imagine if scavenger goes core

would be wierd

[cobalt blade]

or on your build if your not fast

[blissful zodiac]

just free random unqiues

[final owl]

if you play a fast moving build like flicker / KF LW you can't ignore them. you just suddenly find you're stuck on a dumb beast waiting for einhar to capture. it's not that big a deal but I also don't understand why it would be a problem to be able to actually stop him from being in your maps.

[blissful zodiac]

1% tho

[night lagoon]

Did they finally do proper voice acting for 40k? I only played kingmaker and wrath.

[onyx adder]

I dont think ive ever encountered a soul eater mob thats too fast to escape plus too dangerous to kill

[worldly bridge]

what do i annoint this with

[onyx adder]

Harvest maybe but thats got an easy exit

[worldly bridge]

never done a ravaged map

[potent horizon]

I believe so I only played the beginning portion before work and they had voices

[blissful zodiac]

slow slow slow

[night lagoon]

I didnt like how they cheaped out on a lot of armor designs and voice work in the previous titles. The role playing aspects were god tier tho’

[blissful zodiac]

lucky lucky lucky

[onyx adder]

U just doin it for completion or u farmin

[blissful zodiac]

even more lucky lucky lucky

[night lagoon]

Thats how they did the other games too.

[cobalt blade]

speeeed

[blissful zodiac]

SPEEEED IS KEYYY

[night lagoon]

Early game has VA and sometimes the main lines but 0 side activities have voice.

[cobalt blade]

the faster the blight ravaged the more fun it is :333

[livid quarry]

its not the beasts are dangerous it breaks flicker flow when u auto target it so u have to stop flickering

[worldly bridge]

just for fun

[blissful zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksepticeye-gif-9790346

[onyx adder]

If ur just trying to complete then its triple uh

Orange?

Which one gives u cheap towers

[terse topaz]

completion and cheapness ive just done the first three oils, for farming id pull up a guide. can make it very rippy and somewhat expensive

[cobalt blade]

amber

[onyx adder]

Then u just build a fuck ton of stun and slow towers with 1 green tower per cluster

And go make lunch

[blissful zodiac]

amber amber amber

[potent horizon]

Ah I think I saw someone say if it was fully voiced and had the UI and certain game play elements of BG3 it would've been their game of the year so maybe they didn't add more voice lines

[blissful zodiac]

then uhhh

idk

[worldly bridge]

can i get the oils i need all in one single message

please 😭

[blissful zodiac]

no

[onyx adder]

Triple amber

For easiest

[cobalt blade]

i think the normal one once ur geared is 3x amber 3xcrimson 3xopal if their cheap

and my personal pref is replacing opal with teal for speed

[fickle glen]

Are there any maps in this game that take you to a world of the future?

[onyx adder]

Then like whatever is cheap, crimsons or teals or something

[terse topaz]

just do three amber, or sometimes I just do the first 3. can get fancier if you want

[onyx adder]

@worldly bridge just do this

[night lagoon]

Currently they represent a quality that used to be AAA in 2009 aka DA Origins.

[potent horizon]

I love DA origins my favorite dragon age

[onyx adder]

Honestly im fine with limited voice acting and lower graphical fidelity

Because triple a RPGs take 5 billion years to make

[night lagoon]

My main gripe with these proper role playing title is always the combat. 😄

[fickle glen]

I have not seen any robots in this game other than some mechanized monsters

[night lagoon]

I suck at them and pick skills based on role playing aspect not power leveling

[onyx adder]

And if ppl are good at making combat systems and writing characters i want them to pump that out not wait 4.5 years for some underpaid animation rigger to finish making sexual position number 42 for the gooners

[split maple]

I kinda feel like I should login to standard and blast a few breach maps for the good old times sake