1┃general

[finite quail]

you will see your character's background top left

[shy furnace]

just get to 90 and get ur prize and quit till next league

[storm marsh]

will do that but not with flicker

so any noob friendly suggestions?

[finite quail]

ur ascendancy nodes should show u aswell

[storm marsh]

i'm open for anything thats 1 button

[icy zinc]

surely someone in phrecia will buy these

[bleak shore]

1 button gaming.

[icy zinc]

cmon lower the damn things

[storm marsh]

thats my lifestyle

[bleak shore]

When you evolve to a two button gamer the world is your oyster

[finite quail]

wildspeaker

[storm marsh]

alright what good is there for wildspeaker

that might be noob friendly

and i'll go look it up

[icy zinc]

wildspeaker animals and einhar animals

its an entire zoo

[storm marsh]

huh

[icy zinc]

yes

[finite quail]

dex stacking

and then dexstacking you make whatever kinda build you want I guess

[elfin shale]

Does Ghost Reaver work with Bone Barrier?

[finite quail]

bone barrier?

[finite quail]

Well it shouldnt

Since your minions dont have ghost reaver

[pseudo axle]

is there a shield that grants ghost reaver?

[worldly bridge]

I would assume “dealt by minions leached TO YOU” means it doesnt work

[pseudo axle]

if so that would work if you could necro aegis it

[shy furnace]

it works

[elfin shale]

No 😔

[worldly bridge]

Theyre still leeching life

[shy furnace]

it works on you, u wil lget es

[elfin shale]

so the damage is not looking good so far

[blissful zodiac]

NOW SOAK THAT SHIT UP

[karmic gust]

all these proxy leech effects work in same way as your own leech

[storm marsh]

would i be able to turn this into that

[finite quail]

Oh they do?

Interesting

[timid scroll]

out of curiosity i tested atlas and idol scarab farm and the difference is disgusting, atlas is about 3x worse. the idol withdrawal in 3.28 will be harsh

[finite quail]

I mean

[karmic gust]

yes its not rly new, baron builds used soul tether before often

[finite quail]

Kind of

[icy zinc]

eh thats alright

[finite quail]

you can lock prefixes, reforge speed until high attack speed and a res

[icy zinc]

not the best crit reforge but it works

[shy furnace]

nah, everyone knows phrecia is fun league

[storm marsh]

yeah so how does one do that

[finite quail]

unlock the "prefixes cannot be changed" craft

you can see where to get it in the crafting bench

then craft it on your gloves for 2 divines

[shy furnace]

buy a pair iinstead of craft

[finite quail]

then using the harvest bench, reforge speed with 150 yellow juice

and you have to repeat those last two steps until you get what you want

basically, its expensive and not worth it

get the res somewhere else, unless yuo have money to burn

[storm marsh]

isnt there a way to get all of the crafting recipes from a single place this is stupid

[finite quail]

no

[shy furnace]

what u mean

[finite quail]

you unlock them all every league

[icy zinc]

your crafting bench to see

[finite quail]

by doing maps

[storm marsh]

ohh man

[shy furnace]

you will learn them as you beat maps

[cobalt blade]

it kinda just ties in with doing your atlas completion

[storm marsh]

okay i better just switch builds then fuck flicker

[shy furnace]

so easy now that u can just easily buy mapss from people

have 5 days till phrecia ends get to 90 if u havent haha

[storm marsh]

i'm at 80

[finite quail]

If you hang on till level 90, you get the last box

[storm marsh]

but i dont like flicker

[shy furnace]

if ur new and trying to practice normal poe1 then do know everyting prob super expensive atm

[storm marsh]

well i do but i dont

[finite quail]

then just swap to another skill bro

[shy furnace]

just do like frost blade or lighting strike then haha

[finite quail]

they were both nerfed this league

hard nerfed

so I wouldnt recommend it

[icy zinc]

fat boys

[worldly bridge]

Literally

Playinf the game gets you to 90

Even with minimum defenses

You dont need to reroll or do divines worth of upgrades

Just dont die and dont open stupid difficult maps

[finite quail]

ok time to try a juiced t16

at level 73

surely this will be fine, surely

[pseudo axle]

ever since they changed boss zones to be exp-neutral, its so much easier to get to high levels

[elfin shale]

fuck i think this build cooks but the spectres having a 2 second base attack time is BRUTAL

[finite quail]

Lmao I'm actually doing fine

Aslong as I dont get hit

[heady cliff]

thats some quick levelling

[storm marsh]

holy what is this

[worldly bridge]

Kinetic bolt

It looks like

[storm marsh]

i knew i should've done a build that had kinetic in the name

[worldly bridge]

Its hard for me to tell since theres an Mtx i think

[storm marsh]

should've just fullowed jungroans build

[worldly bridge]

Cro

You alright

Just flicker until 90

Trust

[fickle glen]

Is there any secret bonus to the skill lancing steel, where if you leave your shards stuck in a boss you deal more impale damage to it?

[finite quail]

dont

[finite quail]

read the wiki page on it

[worldly bridge]

wanders are fun but like

I struggle with them

Hence ky bame 😭

I think theyre too squishy

And i never get enough investment to feel good

[icy zinc]

just go blue life

[spare ore]

ye it is

[worldly bridge]

I do

Hybrid eva es

Its simply my lack of knowledge and investment

[icy zinc]

thats an odd map

the fuck with t1 uniqs yo

[icy zinc]

oh thats like

purple life

xdd

mix of red and blue

[finite quail]

affliction life

[modern zinc]

what do I do now that I completed the atlas

try to unlock all maven bosses?

[worldly bridge]

Get stronk

It

I guess

[pseudo axle]

get your invitations done, yeah

all your void stones

[finite quail]

finish maven, exarch, eater and uber elder questlines

then do eagon's questline

then do a t17

then uber bosses

[modern zinc]

✍️

thank you

[worldly bridge]

Eagon

[pseudo axle]

then uber feared rotas

[modern zinc]

I did one of the eagon bosses already

[finite quail]

and then you have special maven invitations

dont forget these slots

[modern zinc]

I have atoll and strand

[finite quail]

good for you

not what imtalking about

[pseudo axle]

map favorite slots

@modern zinc what build are you?

[modern zinc]

inquisitor rf

[pseudo axle]

"dps: 0" sounds about right

[modern zinc]

https://pobb.in/psOPMb9MAWhG

yeah my dps is a little rough

[pseudo axle]

why not go earthshatter zerker or something like that

[modern zinc]

not sure how to work it out

[modern zinc]

I like tanky builds

[worldly bridge]

You dont

[modern zinc]

inquisitor 4k regen makes me feel very safe

[worldly bridge]

Rf is slow

[pseudo axle]

thats like, so bad though

[modern zinc]

i've seen people with like 1~4m rf dps

I wish I could be that strong

[pseudo axle]

damage is a defensive layer

and there are such better ways to go about getting tanky

like brother, archmage is right there!

[icy zinc]

ah the mtx

[modern zinc]

yeah I'm working on getting endurance charges

[pseudo axle]

idk how good archmage admittedly is this league

but it HAS to be better than this

[modern zinc]

the "get a free charge every 14s" exarch thing

and then getting charge duration to like 14+

[finite quail]

jesus christ

[pseudo axle]

I feel like I'm watching a crackhead explain how he hustles cans to redemption machines

[modern zinc]

archmage rf?

[modern zinc]

idk how you guys map with 3k hp fr

[pseudo axle]

because we kill everything

[finite quail]

I dont

[pseudo axle]

in an instant

[finite quail]

I'm dying to two hits

[pseudo axle]

idk what pork is doing he's also playing a rather..sus build

[worldly bridge]

Not with your level of investment

Youre better off picking up a spell

[finite quail]

because these stupid beyond mobs wont stop spamming their ranged attacks

[finite quail]

?

[worldly bridge]

If you wanna stay rf you should get fire trap or smth

[pseudo axle]

its hard for me to encourage a build that doesn't have at least 1-2 m dps with tank

and again, I stress, those builds exist, lol

[finite quail]

obv they do exist yes

[worldly bridge]

Yeah but rf is perfectly fine

[modern zinc]

I did

can only get it to level 18 due to dex issues

[pseudo axle]

righteous fire is a deeply medium skill imo

[modern zinc]

I really like it tbh. feels so comfy to play

don't need to target or aim anything or mash any buttons

popped a strongbox? things are already dying around you

no reflex required

[worldly bridge]

Most builds dont need reflex or super aim tho

Rf is just extra simple

Im playing a smiter rn and it’s prob the most mechanical skill ive played eber

You have yo actually position yourself and its not even that hard

[worldly bridge]

Assuming you already have the large dex node

And dex on gloves+ammy?

[modern zinc]

i'm using shaper's touch

and no dex on ammy, sadly

but yes I do have the dex node

[storm marsh]

lmao the dont die part is not working for me atm

[modern zinc]

I guess I should upgrade my amulet soon, it's not that good

[worldly bridge]

Then get gloves with dex or an amulet

Thats the trade off you need

[modern zinc]

I can't

the gloves I can't at least

I'm strength stacking

my weapon rn

[worldly bridge]

Mace?

Weird choice

[cobalt blade]

will say your str is very low for that

the strength stack aoe mod is mace only

[worldly bridge]

Oh youre

Ok youre stacking aoe on rf snd wondering why dmg isnlow

[heady cliff]

astramentis is a generic attribute solver for all stackers early

[pseudo axle]

I think I've decided to take off my current Emperor's Wit, to put on the double corrupted one I rolled.

[cobalt blade]

i mean str does scale RF damage given enough of it :3

[pseudo axle]

And now I'm gonna try and double corrupt the one I took off.

[cobalt blade]

more life more damage

[modern zinc]

lmao ty I forgot that amulet exists

[heady cliff]

wait, str stack aoe on rf? thats a really bad idea

[pseudo axle]

isn't doon cubeyari a thing

also yeah idk strength stacking rf does sound like ass

[cobalt blade]

its the best way to build rf albiet on a scion setup

on inquis it is probably wrong though lol

[pseudo axle]

but this guy is committed

[worldly bridge]

But wizzy is an inquis

[pseudo axle]

idk its so hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see people so obviously committing a huge mistake

[heady cliff]

"str stack" + this weapon screenshot makes it a terrible idea

[modern zinc]

yeah the ES regen is really what makes this build shine

[heady cliff]

this is nowhere near the budget where it starts to work

[pseudo axle]

I'm not even trying to be an asshole here

[cobalt blade]

yeah its a bit bad on their current gear

why i mentioned the str being low

v cluster reliant

[pseudo axle]

go minion if you want to be tanky or something, idfk

minions are basically a defensive layer that means you dont die if you can figure out how to circle strafe

[modern zinc]

I tried spectres and It was the least tankiest thing i've ever played tbh

they were strong and bulky while I was melting with a sneeze

felt like either I invested in them or in myself

[pseudo axle]

brother I don't think thats on the minions I think that's just on your game sense

did you take things like bone barrier, etc

like, you're not even breaking 100k damage according to pob

[cobalt blade]

oh also your not doing split personalities correct

[pseudo axle]

!

[cobalt blade]

they arent worth using without atleast 35-40 distance

[modern zinc]

damn

I guess I should take that elemental top left cluster then

kinda starving on points though

block takes a lot of investment

[hard cliff]

Brother may I have some oats ?

🐄

[worldly bridge]

Glancing blows plus recover on block?

Am i wrong

doesnt that just make you immortal for mapping

[pseudo axle]

time to throw another wit into the double corrupt gamba

wish me luck

wow it just corrupted

noice

no real money lost!

[modern zinc]

I guess I could

I was hoping to get a svallin at some point

90% block chance

[worldly bridge]

Svalin,,,,

Thats like

[cobalt blade]

aaaaa fuck svalinn its so bad if you have any decent max hit

es or life on block is like 2-3x better

[surreal musk]

u should 100% go block if ur a top left tree minion build , tempest shield + 2 spellblock wheels + sanctuary wheel + as the mountain annoint

block chance prefix on rare jewels and replica reckless defennnce are good too

[modern zinc]

really? alrighty

I'll try that out then

I have a pretty big life + es pool so that should be fine

[worldly bridge]

Svalin is just propaganda

Dont let the flippers convince you to buy a 50d shield thats worse than a rare

[pseudo axle]

shields are for the weak

what boss should I grind tonight?

I got like 18 div to throw into gambas while I'm waiting for items to sell

[worldly bridge]

Shaper

Get some indigons

Quintuple your input

[pseudo axle]

regular shaper?

[worldly bridge]

If youre phrecia

[pseudo axle]

I'm not

I'm keepers

[modern zinc]

going glancing blows actually saves me so many points

thank you

[pseudo axle]

was NOT feeling the hyped up difficulty for no reason

[cobalt blade]

using your pob (and taking CI/reducing energy shield to use as a basic example) if your recovering 500 es on block you can kind of read it as that much effective "hit pool" on block - vs a svalinn build usually just being 1 shot once they fail a block or anything unblockable whereas with a larger max hit you tank that unblockable thing and recover from blockable hits

(tho never use EHP to determine if a build is tanky im just using it as an example for how much better recover on block is)

the larger the value of that 500 es is (or however much recover on block your getting) the better

[pseudo axle]

indigon isn't even a shaper drop

its an elder drop

[worldly bridge]

Oh my bad

I thought it was shaper

By the texture lol

[cobalt blade]

specifically uber elder

[pseudo axle]

wait

[worldly bridge]

Uber elder is elder

[cobalt blade]

so its double influ

[pseudo axle]

ah so it IS uber elder

[worldly bridge]

Uber uber elder is the bad one because it has worse loot because no indigon

[cobalt blade]

has better loot

just be lucky and drop sublimes

:3

(has gone dry on sublimes multiple leagues )

[pseudo axle]

uber uber elder is cheaper for feared rotas and easier to source

[worldly bridge]

Tier seventeens 🤢

[pseudo axle]

uber shaper sucks because of the bullet hell being annoying/the multiple travel stages

I just buy all my fragments usually

I stopped doing invitations since they got so expensive

lol no way indigon is a 12% drop rate

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt mind ushaper if it werent for all the minibosses with phases tbh

[pseudo axle]

indeed

thats what I mean

if you cut out the beginning phase

with the 4 corners bosses

[cobalt blade]

yea

[pseudo axle]

it'd be a lot more bearable

[cobalt blade]

fine fight w/o those

love when you low roll 3 fucking phasing bosses and it adds an extra minute or 2 of time

[final owl]

aint nobody got time fo that

[pseudo axle]

uber elder is basically free for me luckily

[final owl]

uber elder was surprisingly easy on this build, i expected to get pasted

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if rallying cry can affect my allies with its exertions if it’s auto exerted?

I know the buff can’t

[pseudo axle]

well damn

[cobalt blade]

exerts are only you

[pseudo axle]

anyone on perfect agony this league?

[cobalt blade]

doesnt work the way yo think

[fickle glen]

The warcry says the exerts of the attacks increase per affected ally

[cobalt blade]

damage over time multiplier does nothing with PA lol

[pseudo axle]

well its still a 17~ div jewel

with those two mods

so

we take those

[cobalt blade]

yes for you

[pseudo axle]

also its so depressing how ubers have worse loot pools on a lot of them

than their normal versions

[cobalt blade]

exerts are inherently only you

[fickle glen]

I know that, but I am saying will it increase through auto exert if I have nearby allies?

[cobalt blade]

and you dont have a buff at all with autoexert so doesnt noones affected by it

no scaling

[fickle glen]

Hmm so the buff has to affect allies inorder to increase the exertion

Geh

[fierce rock]

is there a discord for poe speedrunning, or a guide, or like where would i start

[modern zinc]

I just watch speedruns on youtube

[bleak shore]

Could you in theory run Uul-Netol's Embrace, Nimis and Autoexterted General Cry and have automatic bone novas that trigger more bone novas with return? 0 button gaming.

[karmic gust]

i dont think the clones will even be able to trigger bone nova

[bleak shore]

Oh ya they can't trigger skills can't they

[pseudo axle]

is there a way to end/reroll eagon threads?

[bleak shore]

I'm dum

[pseudo axle]

beyond just doing them

[signal hawk]

I don't think so

You can do the white version of the maps to do them fast

You lose juice sure

[pseudo axle]

oh thats a good point

the maps themselves arent worth rolling often

its the invites where the money is tbh

moment of reverence is like 2 div each

[cobalt blade]

they are the same as rolling any t16.5 tbf

slightly more juicy if you get lucky

[thick goblet]

havoc/tyty have good guides
tuadh has good full videos

[pseudo axle]

I just had a GENIUS QoL idea: Have a toggle when you do an uber encounter if you want the uber drop pool, or the original drop pool.

[finite quail]

no

[finite quail]

brother

thats called doing the normal encounter

[pseudo axle]

buying fragments sucks

[cobalt blade]

the only boss this ever makes sense topress on is uber dread

[tight plinth]

wut?

[finite quail]

wdym buying fragments suck

[cobalt blade]

and even then i would say it doesnt if the swords priced at all in the league

[finite quail]

async trade

and faustus

makes both instant purchases

there is no difference now

[pseudo axle]

if you're self farming them it makes a difference

[tight plinth]

wut?

[pseudo axle]

but meh

I'm not married to the idea

[finite quail]

you're not doing eaters often enough if you're farming them yourself in ssf

for it to matter

bad idea

[cobalt blade]

in that case its still easier to farm regular bosses if you dont actually clear the maps

[finite quail]

next

[cobalt blade]

just enter proc altar leave

[pseudo axle]

I doubt a max power charge mask of the tribunal is worth anything

sadge

[modern zinc]

how do people even get magebloods

[pseudo axle]

lootsplosions

[modern zinc]

just run juiced t16's with the fastest build they know and pray?

[cobalt blade]

unique farming with a shit ton of rarity

[fierce rock]

find a good div/hr strat and spam it for a while

[cobalt blade]

usually blights in groups though for raw mageblood drops

[finite quail]

high rarity t0 unique farms

or high div/h farms

[pseudo axle]

chris wilson must be personally appeased through endless toil and bloodshed

[fierce rock]

oh like literally dropping a MB, yeah blight is good for that because of the lootsplosions

[finite quail]

or div card gambas

[cobalt blade]

the best way to get it is to just be lucky though

click an ancient wombgift on the tree and get one day 2

[fierce rock]

isn't that just the answer to everything really

[cobalt blade]

(or kill a rare mob in a t7+map)

[pseudo axle]

thats how I got my mirror this league

[fickle glen]

I didn’t know this was daresso until the duelist called him that, so this the person that the siren was heartbroken over?

[pseudo axle]

in addition to all my other insane drops/corrupts

[cobalt blade]

yea

[cobalt blade]

holy blue

[pseudo axle]

that screen is aggressively blue wtf

did the harbingers fold your ass

[fierce rock]

i got a krillsen in a map once, which i'm told is as rare as a mirror. of course i get that instead of an actual mirror

[fickle glen]

Camera effect

[pseudo axle]

I've had krillson once iirc

[cobalt blade]

im stil fucking hunting for krillson

1 mirror in archnem league 2 in affliction 1 in merc no krillson smh

[pseudo axle]

no its not

[cobalt blade]

yes it is

mirrors are farmable krillson isnt D:

[fickle glen]

Taking picture of a screen does that

[pseudo axle]

I only care about divines

[cobalt blade]

its just pure luck

[pseudo axle]

and mirrors

[final owl]

At this stage I would still take the mirror. because I never farm to mirror levels 😛

[pseudo axle]

I was there when the fishing secrets were cast

[fierce rock]

i never got a mirror, but probably because i do a lot of farms that don't lend themselves to getting mirrors

[modern zinc]

yeah

I think he was prettier before he got corrupted tho

[final owl]

i've never done farms profitable enough to result in a mirror within a reasonable timeframe tbh

[cobalt blade]

leaking the fishing secrets D:

[fickle glen]

He would have whooped her ass if he came back to her that big

[fierce rock]

what's funny is that i get really lucky in other ARPGs when i play them, then i come back to poe and it all goes away

how can i channel my luck from other games to this one

[cobalt blade]

get good enough at farming you dont need luck and then you get luckier

[fierce rock]

is the kuduku method still unpatched?

[fickle glen]

Skill issue

[uneven thunder]

uh the 2nd time saying reflect is ass

[fierce rock]

don't roll it then

[elfin shale]

Im kind of legitimately invested in this dogshit build now @sleek barn
https://pobb.in/I7gMNlBWF4ly

its only 45d in Grand Spectrums

[cobalt blade]

what the fuck am i looking at are you playing raise dead on unearth minions

[elfin shale]

maybe

[cobalt blade]

Cursed as hell i love it gl

[elfin shale]

I thought i was cooking but i did not account for Bone Archers being AWFUL

0.5 attacks a second BASE

not sure if there's an Ancient Skull angle, it seemed meh and not worth it compared to +4 spectres and 4 jewels

[cobalt blade]

Id think its worse than wraithlord for the sheer amount of flat

[elfin shale]

i should probably explore permanent buff spectres though

[pseudo axle]

whats the best thing to try and woke orb craft atm?

abyss belts?

twilight regalia?

[cobalt blade]

in phrecia or keepers

[pseudo axle]

simplex amulets?

keepers

honestly I think the league is just running out of steam

people arent buying quickly

[cobalt blade]

prob simplexes then doubt anything else is worth enough to price awakeners orbs

[elfin shale]

what the fuck

[cobalt blade]

affect the price of*

[elfin shale]

UnFATHOMABLY curious about this thing

[cobalt blade]

Think ive heard its okay as a flamelink setup but you are playing link skills

[storm marsh]

is it possible to get a 6 link chest without it dropping?

[elfin shale]

Yeah you can just make one

But if you're asking, making one is probably out of the question. The ideal is to just buy one off the market

[elfin shale]

Hallowed Monarch tho

[cobalt blade]

I forgot they added that

Its the weird minion hh hat right

[elfin shale]

Yeah'

[cobalt blade]

Maybe workable

[elfin shale]

Why tf is this guy better than just using Reaper

[storm marsh]

out of the question why?

[hard cliff]

You know why

[elfin shale]

Its like 1.5 div

[cobalt blade]

cheap 6l is like gonna be 5-10c cost to 6link is more

[elfin shale]

^

Granted this is tree league so you could just get one yourself from the tree

[tight plinth]

how many of those can you get?

[elfin shale]

@hard cliff look at him he is beautiful

[tight plinth]

do their bleeds stack?

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/C_l5Wda-v9k?t=698

I didn't expect this when watching a low effort dota meme video

[storm marsh]

trying to get a chest like this

[elfin shale]

Whatever the max number of Spectres is but im assuming they all share a max bleed

[tight plinth]

like if you have 4, theres 64 bleeds on the enemy?

oh

thats balls

[storm marsh]

or this

[elfin shale]

So you have one Perfect Dark Reaper and then one Dark Reaper that inflicts a normal bleed that can be aggravated

wait perfect can still be aggravated it just isnt by moving

pog

[cobalt blade]

Doesn't aggravate work by making the target count as moving

[hard cliff]

This looks good

I like it

[elfin shale]

nah

different thing

They dont stack and do the same thing but they arent the same thing

[cobalt blade]

hmmm

i see

[elfin shale]

for example

[finite quail]

so you can deal quadruple damage with bleed instead of triple with aggravate

But you have to constantly reapply them

[elfin shale]

You mean with Crimson Dance?

Yeah its neat

You can also do Farrul's Pounce, where you apply a normal aggravated bleed for full damage and then 7 stacks of Crimson Dance

Since the unique makes you gain and lose CD as a pendulum buff

[storm marsh]

how good is chance to suppress spell damage?

[stuck phoenix]

It was so good that it was nerfed

[storm marsh]

so not that worth to get it

[stuck phoenix]

It's still pretty popular

The nerf was from 50% to 40% base mitigation

And some builds were given some of it back so it's less for those builds

[umbral crag]

It is still a very solid source of mitigation in the game for builds that can get 100% of it

Obviously, if you can't hit near 100% of it without making major sacrifices to the build then it's not for your build, as with any other source of damage mitigation

[fickle glen]

Does crimson dance keystone stack bleed with a single duration or 8 different durations?

[spare ore]

it is a really good layer of defense 100% still worth grabbing if you can fit it in

[dry tree]

It's keeps the 8 highest damage bleeds as separate durations

[stuck phoenix]

Technically speaking, bleed always stacks (essentially) infinitely, it's just going to only apply the highest dps bleed at any given point in time

All bleed durations will still very much be independent

[fickle glen]

Very good, I was hoping it’s attack speed based

[stuck phoenix]

In a sense it is, though past enough speed to sustain 8 stacks it won't do much aside from make you reach max dps faster

[fickle glen]

That’s the goal

[fickle glen]

I feel like it will be hard to maintain even with very high attack speed due to the supports I’ll be using with it

[stuck phoenix]

Are you sure it's worth it then

[fickle glen]

Absolutely, if the bleed goes really fast

[fickle glen]

Sadism and rupture

With a few modifications to the duration through passives and gear

[stuck phoenix]

In the process of thinking this up

Did your ever think to yourself, I should just run Impale

[fickle glen]

Haha I like to try everything

[stuck phoenix]

Have you tried impale

[fickle glen]

I am highly considering implales tho

[stuck phoenix]

🤨

[fickle glen]

No I have not

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

Xd

[fickle glen]

I have trouble understanding how it works even after reading the wiki about it

[crimson spear]

Is Grattus Signet considered viable for Cast on Critical Strike builds?

Also I found an error on the POE wiki that it doesn't mention Grattus Signet on the page for Unnerve (but does on the page for Intimidate).

[stuck phoenix]

Tldr: hit enemy, next few hits hit harder

[storm marsh]

okay for now this is the last piece i need what would it take to make something like this

[fickle glen]

That’s all I can really think of, I can’t grasp the mechanics for it, or atleast I always think I am wrong when I get an idea bout it

[stuck phoenix]

It really isn't that much more complicated

At default, it boosts the next 5 hits for 20% of the hit

It's 20% right

I forgot

Anyways

You just sum up them for as many hits as they last

[umbral crag]

Fractured base, fear essence till cold dmg, pcbc and veiled exalt, pcbc and reforge crit

Probably like 30-40div depending on price of veiled exalt

[storm marsh]

jeez

yeah no i aint balling like that

[umbral crag]

Veiled exalt and the fractured base is probably the expensivr part of it

[brisk wadi]

Guys, any date when phrecia ends ?

[stuck phoenix]

Is veiled ex worth it over the Veiled chaos gamble I wonder

[umbral crag]

Ehh good point ig

Since prefix there is alrdy 2 of it

[stuck phoenix]

Also, especially since you can just... force it

You triple meta

Oh wait no

I'm dum

That's not possible

[fickle glen]

Does this mean it does less % the more impales there are on target?

[stuck phoenix]

Guh

How

[fickle glen]

I counted 20 x 5

Idk my guy

Impales are confusing

[stuck phoenix]

Also it's 10%

Anyways, it's basically just, 50% more damage, but it's delayed

[cobalt blade]

its technically possible if you have a heist base with can have +1 crafted mods

[stuck phoenix]

No, the issue is your prefixes are full

You just prefix lock and pray if you do it

[fickle glen]

Hold up let me try this, does it deal more damage by % the more impales there are? Like 10 impales is 100% damage of the previous hits?

[stuck phoenix]

One

It's 10% of each

[cobalt blade]

oh right they probably actually care for the cold

[stuck phoenix]

But they only last 5 hits by default

Dunno if you can reach 10

[hard cliff]

I love the cold

[stuck phoenix]

You can force cold of a random tier with harvest though

How hard is it to roll the cold

[fickle glen]

I reread the wiki about it, it seems it goes well with attack speed too

[stuck phoenix]

Attack speed helps you reach max dps faster

[fickle glen]

But question is… will I have enough points for both bleed and impales

[stuck phoenix]

Bro

[stuck phoenix]

Bleed is not based on hit damage taken

Most of your things that scale bleed do not scale impale

Most of your things that scale impale do not scale bleed

[stuck phoenix]

Impale is

[fickle glen]

Yeah so?

[stuck phoenix]

You can't run both

[fickle glen]

Says you!

[stuck phoenix]

I've done bad builds

Like melee bleed witch

Or elehit burst full commitment

[fickle glen]

I don’t think witch is made for that xD

I am running duelist rn

[stuck phoenix]

The latter of which being attack and spell and being the worst build I ever made by a long shot

[stuck phoenix]

And it's a significantly less questionable idea

Than trying to scale both impale and bleed

There's fun challenge as a build concept to see how bad it goes

And unjustifiably stupid ideas

[cobalt blade]

uuh i feel like its too cooked to get abad tier but maybe

[stuck phoenix]

I'm tempted to but can't be bothered to name all the stats you want as bleed that are worthless on impale and vice versa

[fickle glen]

You know what I am gonna add ignite to it

[stuck phoenix]

If you want to be miserable, go for it

[fickle glen]

That fire mastery is just begging me to add it to the mix

[stuck phoenix]

The world is your oyster

[stuck phoenix]

There is literally no such thing

Oh you mean hits?

[fickle glen]

It’s right there in the duelist tree area

[stuck phoenix]

To scale the impales specifically

I mean sure, it's cope but sure. But it's not a bleed node

And it's not an ignite node

So it doesn't fit

Because it only scales one of three things

[fickle glen]

Says who?

[stuck phoenix]

You wanna put a metaphorical stick in your wheel? I will hand it to you

[fickle glen]

Imma be igniting and impaling and bleeding enemies

Absolute chaos

[stuck phoenix]

There will be no chaos

[thick goblet]

last epoch type build

[stuck phoenix]

Just 0dps

[thick goblet]

wait till they add poison

[stuck phoenix]

:)

[fickle glen]

I don’t see the poison

[stuck phoenix]

You're blind

[fickle glen]

xD

[stuck phoenix]

There is no "That fire mastery is just begging me to add it to the mix" fire mastery begging to be added to bleed impale

[fickle glen]

Yes!

[stuck phoenix]

There's one that helps impales and not bleeds

As I already said

You can add it to an impale build, not a bleed build

And you also can't add it to an ignite build

So if you're trying to do all 3 at once it's clearly terrible

[fickle glen]

Ugh wait ignite relies on heavy hits huh

[stuck phoenix]

Ignite works the same way as bleed

[fickle glen]

But I can’t stack it

:<

[stuck phoenix]

It stacks about as much as bleed does

2 or a few more, what's the difference

From one niche source

[fickle glen]

🙁

I guess I’ll have to stick with the boring 1 effect sigh

[proper solstice]

classic poe moment, either be bored or be too weak to play the game

[stuck phoenix]

You can find ways to spice up your build that don't involve sucking the dps out of it

[fossil mural]

Poo2 can be built like that doe

Better game

[fickle glen]

Cap, you just want to get rid of me

IT WONT BE THAT EASY

[tawdry olive]

fr its a delicate balance between letting you do whatever you want and yet also making you feel like what you did mattered

because if you really can build anything and have it wreck content then people wouldn't care to put thought into it

[worldly bridge]

If you could slap together an insane build with default attaxk it wouldn’t be fun

[worldly bridge]

What makes it fun is precisely this, youre correct

And i think poe still manages that very very VERY well

I am naturally very optimistic though, add to the fact that i only been playing the games seriously since a year and a half ago

I just dont have the same level of “jadedness” that vets do

[proper solstice]

you must not play melee builds

[worldly bridge]

I play slams often

And played rf a couple times

[proper solstice]

not being jaded after playing slams is impressive

[worldly bridge]

Slams fun

And yes i recognize that earthshatter is just the BEST slam

But also like

Thats fine? Its ok that ice crash isnt as nice as earth shatter

Its just the nature of the beast

[stuck phoenix]

It could be, but only if that required a specific unique to make it worthwhile

But there's no support for default attack

[spice pecan]

i feel like we have too many slams

[worldly bridge]

The game is still in an amazing place regardless of what people with 10k hours say

[stuck phoenix]

No way to make it viable

[worldly bridge]

I also agree that there are tons of relatively easy changes that can be made to JUST skills or JUST ascendancy or JUST league mechanics

That can improve the game

[proper solstice]

hollow palm ice crash was really fun until that league ended, sadly ssf wouldn't tolerate that kind of build

[worldly bridge]

But i also think if the game was forced to be frozen in time, right now wouldnt be a bad time at all

[worldly bridge]

Sounds very fun

Is cadence good btw, if you tested it

It reads like a weird built in blood and sand

[worldly bridge]

Yeah :<

I really like what theyve done with “implicit” skills in poe2. Allowing them to be scaled and supported

Abberaths fury is hopefully gonna be real one day in poe2

[cobalt blade]

its honestly kind of fun to fight ubers with default attack on already strong builds lmao

[worldly bridge]

Full 6link

[cobalt blade]

but building something specifically for default attack is cursed as hell

[worldly bridge]

:o

Ill consider this some time

[cobalt blade]

if you do try it on a stat stacker

[stuck phoenix]

It's just way worse than building to use an actual skill always

[cobalt blade]

yee

[stuck phoenix]

Because you lose all support gems

[worldly bridge]

True but its much funnier

[stuck phoenix]

And the stats from the gem

And modifiers to gems

[cobalt blade]

but funny to fight stuff with an actually playable default atk lol

[proper solstice]

almost 8m with fists? nah that's unethical

[cobalt blade]

well with claws

[fossil mural]

What dps did empy get with auto attack

[cobalt blade]

it was in the billions because group play

[wide nymph]

Fuck POE1, fuck POE2.
Where's POE mobile like they promised?

[spice pecan]

path of phone

[fossil mural]

Not just group play, it was 5 aura bots or something

[cobalt blade]

yes that is group play

[spice pecan]

5 supports, one was an aurabot

[cobalt blade]

and it was an aura bot curse bot warcry support mana guardian and something else

[spice pecan]

that is group play

[stuck phoenix]

That's group play

[spare ore]

ew fuck outta here with that

[onyx adder]

Exilecon in 9 months we get our once-per-three-years update on poe mobile

[stuck phoenix]

Unarmed is a lot less scuff since you get gems and actual uniques specifically for it

[wide nymph]

Honestly thats all Im looking forward for.

[stuck phoenix]

Or did you mean unarmed default attack

[proper solstice]

ig i meant basic attack not unarmed

[fossil mural]

Its already in the game. In a form of a warcry. Which you need glory for. Which you get by igniting.

[cobalt blade]

for unarmed you can actually reach a 20-30+m tbh

[onyx adder]

Plus ur a BEAR

[cobalt blade]

either hollow palm cursed setups that get 1 shot or facebreakers with some source of added phys

[fossil mural]

Poe players and reading 😩

[proper solstice]

though now im over here asking myself why i even use a skill if I'm not at 8m dps

[fossil mural]

Actually I looked at champ

And its pretty easy

To get flat phys

[cobalt blade]

yeah that do be a source of it

[worldly bridge]

But i mean from boots

I know abt the cry

[fossil mural]

What I am saying is its not happening

[worldly bridge]

It will

One day

[worldly bridge]

#2┃general

I will continue convo there

[fossil mural]

Abyssus and abyssal jewels and woespikes

[cobalt blade]

horror channel

[fossil mural]

Not that hard to go above 1k flat I think

[cobalt blade]

if your running abyssus good luck living

abyss jewels yeah tho not too bad

[fossil mural]

Dont get hit

Abyssus is just too much damage. 500 flat 😩

[cobalt blade]

bro has the dev abyssus

[fossil mural]

Nightmare build to make

Cause so few slots

What would people even gacha for

There is like what

3.5 waifus

[worldly bridge]

Mageblood

Items

Duh

Also we have lots of baddies in poe

The entire expedition crew

[wide nymph]

All ascendancies are locked behind Gacha.

[worldly bridge]

Like come on?

[spare ore]

fr they do be baddies

einhar too i'd kill to roll him

[worldly bridge]

Youre telling me you wouldnt want to have a date with any of the guys on expedition

[stuck phoenix]

How about cosmetics that don't fall into the cool or edgy categories

[worldly bridge]

Breaks immersion

[stuck phoenix]

Fuck immersion

[spare ore]

your lame

[proper solstice]

the ui would be so cursed

[worldly bridge]

We cant have sexy mermaid mtx because it breaks immersion

[stuck phoenix]

What about my lame

[worldly bridge]

Unfortunately

[stuck phoenix]

Unfortunately

[spare ore]

your lame is lame

[stuck phoenix]

Wuh

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704

[vague storm]

This good enough for A5 Kitava?

[spice pecan]

that amount of str in acts is crazy

[cobalt blade]

scion

[cobalt blade]

🥺 that would be a fire mtx

[vague storm]

This is a persinal record at A5 for me. Funny thing is it could be higher if I got lucky with some FB rolls from tree

[stuck phoenix]

No clearly it would be water

[spice pecan]

you might onepiece kitava with brutus lead sprinkler or something

[crisp plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chenongyun-cat-12

kitavas pov

[cobalt blade]

true

[fossil mural]

Isnt there a fire elemental from skyrim mtx?

[vague storm]

My PoV

[ocean field]

Absolute cinema

[cobalt blade]

think your volatiles need some pen as well

bit weak on the damage side of things with only -max less defence and aoe

[spice pecan]

wheres your no damage every 10 seconds for 10 seconds mod

[ocean field]

btw I asked help

for this map

the guy who cleared the plot

took the 9K juice

XD

[spice pecan]

that's why i never ask people for help clearing anything xdd

[livid quarry]

is taht t17?

[ocean field]

16.5

[brazen vector]

SO WE DID GET AN EXILE CON CHANNEL

[tropic flint]

this is totatlly random, i just switched to pc and was wondering what keyboards and mouse are people using

[stuck phoenix]

More like it never left

If you scroll up it has messages from years ago

[brazen vector]

For you maybe, I was asking a couple weeks ago if we can get a exile con channel on the poe1 category and it was declined

[stuck phoenix]

Well, it's not really different now

#exilecon-1

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/U8o397QjQZEA

[stuck phoenix]

And I don't think we had a poe2 category least exilecon

So it was just moved to a different category

I dunno if it was hidden inbetween, but I assume it was at least locked

[ocean field]

I have eeked out almost all the damage from this build while not being squishy af

But I have realized when you are at 100m 150m does not make that much of a difference

so I am planning to switch this drasitcally to ensure build can hypothetically can take on as many mods as humanely possible

Any suggesstions

??

[spice pecan]

no idea about assassins tbh

[ocean field]

And on a side note how much area of effect do you need to ensure fross overlaps

[dense rock]

gl getting much tankiness out of build so heavy on uniques

[ocean field]

this build is not too heavy on unqiues tbh just need 2 the wand and the gloves

other I just put it there

[split maple]

eh when in doubt swap in svalinn ig

[ocean field]

hmm good idea

honestly one of the best options however

where do I get recover on block now

[split maple]

any your watcher rly should have discipline es on hit

good thing they can have 3 mods 😄

[ocean field]

yep will make that switch

[ocean field]

yeah if only I was rich

but I'm poor

I am gonna do some market manipulation next league

to ensure I get me some divines

btw how bad is impaled

should I ensure I am immune to it

[split maple]

not rly noticeable

[ocean field]

in like meth addicted t17 maps

[ocean field]

I see

[split maple]

like if you have good enough generic defences for meth addicted t17

you wont notice impale

[ocean field]

I see

do you know the aoe for fross overlapp

??

[brazen vector]

[spice pecan]

57/115 atlas, i think this is the first time in a while where i've not dropped a div by level 90

[ocean field]

@split maple brooooo

where are u

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-2-gif-2888687789582496283

[ocean field]

Damm

[split maple]

making breakfast

and rly idk bout fross overlaps

i just slap max in pob if i pob it and dont play it so dont have to actually worry if it works

[ocean field]

I see

what more defensive layers can I add other than max block supress

I think just stacking ES is a good option

[brazen vector]

ESGOH

[onyx adder]

Impale is just another damage mod

Unless u have any armour

In which case its a blank mod

[ocean field]

0 armor

ES Evasion build

[onyx adder]

Then its just another damage mod that can be dangerous with certain mob types

But not worth building to cover

[ocean field]

I just need to get the protection mastery thingy

[onyx adder]

Its not worth the passive point

Its easier to control by not standing in phys shotguns

[ocean field]

Yeah but I tend to do that

espicially in harvest

yellow juice shotgunning

[brazen vector]

stop doing that

[heady cliff]

what even frequently uses impale except simulacrums?

[brazen vector]

t17s

[heady cliff]

people roll for currency in current league?

[ocean field]

I am addicted

[split maple]

I don't think I ran a single impale mod t17 this league true

[ocean field]

to high explode harvest

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-punisher-punisher-daredevil-punisher-court-scene-punisher-court-speech-gif-9280760464850102883

esm

how to reduce damage from volatile cores

??

that fucks up me

[finite quail]

bigger lifepool

higher fire max hit

suppress

[ocean field]

oh

supress works

[finite quail]

yes

[ocean field]

noice

[bold scarab]

How often do you ever get impaled

[finite quail]

did you think a floating ball of magma that chases you around is an attack

[ocean field]

also is there anything like reduce damage from explosions or area that works

[finite quail]

no that's not a thing

[ocean field]

Not that much

[bold scarab]

Honestly ... You can never tell

[finite quail]

there's reduced damae taken from aoes

but not "explosions" specifically

[bold scarab]

Yeeeee I usually use that mastery in ruthless to get corrupted blood immune

[finite quail]

Yes you can

And if you can't, you're inexperienced

[bold scarab]

Or blind

[finite quail]

That too

[bold scarab]

Owo

[ocean field]

or braindead

I am braindead

[bold scarab]

Hey that's my line

Lel

[rigid void]

Heylooo

Every one piece gooldy rogar

[spice pecan]

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-get-much-higher-so-high-one-piece-one-piece-is-real-gif-27101910

[dusky void]

does furry valve work with shield throw of thratus to get many shields around an enemy

[brazen vector]

Wiwiwawa

[frigid wedge]

wiwiwi

[frigid wedge]

goes to ur cursor point so u
i imagine targeting point would b what it's splitting towards

[brazen vector]

Why not just test it

@frigid wedge I bricked the idol i bought from you, eri

[frigid wedge]

u could probably use uh, penance mark

[frigid wedge]

nice one

[spice pecan]

wait wait wait

[frigid wedge]

what

[brazen vector]

I waited enough

[spice pecan]

could you brick an unset ring into hateful accuser and socket in mark on hit

[frigid wedge]

its nameless not unset

[split maple]

hateful accuser aint chanceable brickable etc

[brazen vector]

Doesn't work

[spice pecan]

damn

[split maple]

its not global drop

[spice pecan]

i thought i was cooking for a minute

but also yeah wrong base type anyway

[brazen vector]

You were cooking with toilet water

[spice pecan]

dont judge my recipes

theres a reason i dont make my own builds

[brazen vector]

I will judge

[dusky void]

with snipers mark you throw 1 shield and than it can split and have multiple shields shooting shards does that work with valve aswll because if yes it sounds broken 24 splits or so

[spice pecan]

i thought it always throws only one shield

[brazen vector]

I might be addicted to poe

I dreamt that I had a map that dropped divines like it was affliction again but I noticed my filter hid the exact stack size of 4 divines and it made me sad

[frigid wedge]

the difference is fury valve splits TOWARDS mobs

sniper mark just splits

[dusky void]

yes but with snipers mark if you throw 1 shield that splits into 2 and than you have 3 shields throwing shards

[steel light]

gravicius lives

[brazen vector]

It dropped you ;3

[dusky void]

so if there many mobs it works if not than it wont split to anyone?

[cobalt blade]

would the modifiers to proj numbers not fuck over all ur mini shards

like if it does work youd just get a bunch of shields that do 1 proj

[dusky void]

idk

[onyx adder]

doesnt work

fury valve doesnt behave like snipers

fury valve + sst of trarthus = 1 shield that shoots 1 projectile that splits 25 times

[lilac parcel]

wtf

[dusky void]

ah sadge is 3 splits enough with snipers mark or should i get 2 more mark clusters?

[dusky skiff]

what idols should i get to farm eater of worlds in my maps

more packsize or chance to get altars

[earnest raven]

A mix, i like more altars

[icy zinc]

get idols that let you merge idols

sell shovels

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1r54vzs/phrecia_double_corruption_end_league_gamble_20x this shoveler

[steady elk]

Seeing a lot of poe1 saved!! comments

What's trial of kekmas?

[spice pecan]

what?

[icy zinc]

kekmas

[earnest raven]

Best content

[spice pecan]

its literally just sanctum but in poo2

[steady elk]

I know nothing about it other than it being in poe2 and everyone hating it

[spice pecan]

yes, because you have to do it to ascend

[steady elk]

[spice pecan]

no idea why ppl thought that was getting added to poe1 when we literally already have sanctum

[earnest raven]

Its the ggg dream. Those damn masochists

[spice pecan]

they're the exact same mechanic

[steady elk]

So what's the complaints about then?

[spice pecan]

ppl hate it in poo2 because it's mandatory

[icy zinc]

the beaten housewife mentality

[spice pecan]

unless you dont want to ascend

[steady elk]

Fair enough

I have 160 hours in poe1 idt I've done a single sanctum still

[spice pecan]

it's one of those mechanics where you need a very specialized character to do it

sanctum runner builds literally only do sanctum and maybe some bossing, they can't map

i used to enjoy making sanctum runners before the 3.26 nerf

[cobalt blade]

exception being eblade setups tbf

single skill swap and your golden for mapping lol

[spice pecan]

i mean they don't really run a ton of es

but yeah maybe you can gem swap for a clear skill

[cobalt blade]

even at 10k which eblade you really should be at that point if your a sanctum farmer its fine

[frigid wedge]

depends on how zhp ur sanctum build is tho

[toxic geyser]

how many days till phrecia ends?

[frigid wedge]

if ur playing the one with 10 unreserved life and eb ur not taking that mappong

[frigid wedge]

ends thursday thr 19th this week

[spice pecan]

yeah, i don't think they even run coruscating elixir for sanctum iirc

[frigid wedge]

they dont

they just fully reserve everything available to

[cobalt blade]

depends its usually ran until you run into the flask affliction but not with balbala

just as a precaution

[frigid wedge]

depends if like smurf you consider yourself a "professional osin runner"

[cobalt blade]

ye if your osin running you dont bother ofc

just for more general eblade setups

[frigid wedge]

he ran 1 scripture iirc

[spice pecan]

void map and osin run are the only things i havent done in poe i think

and that's not changing

[frigid wedge]

i need to try valdos

as a main strat

[cobalt blade]

I've tried 2 failed one first room during actual sanctum and one in tota because my game lagged(after doing over 50 flawless regular ones in a row )

[spice pecan]

day 1 trickster valdo farmer sitting in each map for a half hour

[frigid wedge]

day 1 isnt even trickster

its glad

[cobalt blade]

its glad past day 1 as well