1┃general

[muted musk]

that would also make alot of sence. was playing a bit with the idea of starting next leauge as a ultimatum farmer. and realiced that i had no idea of how ultimatum feels below T16

[cobalt blade]

ye not completely sure tho just think ive heard some ulti farmers mention it lol

or read it in a spreadsheet

[muted musk]

you are correct acording to the wiki (schould propperly ahve started there)

[cobalt blade]

that do be a good place to check

[blissful zodiac]

word if advice

don't go to club with a crashout

cause they'll embarrass you

[frigid wedge]

what

[spice pecan]

starfuck crater

no shield

[warm musk]

How realistic is 50% shock on a boss or mob if you elemental overload? Given if you have standard gear so average damage is around 700m w/o shock or elemental overload?

[spice pecan]

photoshopped

[frigid wedge]

holy shit

nice one

yeah

[split maple]

Like 3% drop

Gg

[sour wadi]

noice

[sour wadi]

no its 50/50

because i did 2 starfall craters and got 1 shield

[native abyss]

my ship didnt bring home any divine orbs

sad!

[tranquil sedge]

its relatively low droprate and also u have to find the craters to attempt the boss

so it adds up to a high price

[split maple]

Overall for crater chance and drop chance it's what 1000 maps to expect one 😄 kinda ass to get nowadays

[frigid wedge]

maybe i should make a toxic rain quiver

so i can do stuff w the heister

but id still need help with bosses for idol slots...

[marsh aspen]

Doooode. Finally finished acts. And phrecia about to end... fuck 😂

[worldly bridge]

Smite is such a cool skill

I hope they let you double hit in poe2

And that they dont give it some shitty downside

[frigid wedge]

yeah but Johnathan isnt nice like that

so they probs will

[native abyss]

i hate gold

[pallid frost]

why did the game become bad in act 3? i js cant continue its so boring

[worldly bridge]

Uh

[pallid frost]

until act 3 i loved it

[worldly bridge]

My best guess is your expectations werent in line

[gritty epoch]

Poo2 bad

[frigid wedge]

truueeeee

[worldly bridge]

You expected something greater and havent wuite gotten there yet

[pallid frost]

will a class change help? im playing ranger LA

[worldly bridge]

Maybe just take a break

[frigid wedge]

progression slows down and u actually start needing to think about what ur doing

[gritty epoch]

Switch to 2h mace warrior that will help

[worldly bridge]

LA is super chill

[pallid frost]

i took a break

[worldly bridge]

What exactly is “bad” then?

[pallid frost]

i loved rf but the aoe was js small

[frigid wedge]

changing build/class constantly makes the game a far worse experience

[pallid frost]

boring, i cant play more than 30mins

[worldly bridge]

Ok but like WHY is it boring

Is it the campaign as a whole

[gritty epoch]

Maybe the game isn't for you

[worldly bridge]

Is it because you arent mach 10

Or that yeah

[pallid frost]

nah it js got boring at act 3

and bc im slow

[worldly bridge]

Then speeeeeeed

[spice pecan]

brother you arent playing RF until the end of act 3 lol

[pallid frost]

act 2 you can play rf

[worldly bridge]

Just start running past shit

[pallid frost]

well you can sustain it

[frigid wedge]

so get a movement skill like shield charge

[worldly bridge]

And rush maps

[pallid frost]

no shield cant use

[spice pecan]

why arent you using a shield lmfao

[worldly bridge]

You can run rf as soon as you have fire mastery

[frigid wedge]

this is probably a conversation for #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[worldly bridge]

Bow????

Theyre playing la??

[frigid wedge]

we meant for the rf

[worldly bridge]

They said thar was previously

[spice pecan]

get frostblink and shield charge-faster attacks

[pallid frost]

im playing phrecia thats why i switched classes

[spice pecan]

gg

[worldly bridge]

Oh phrecia

Yeah the game is just harder in phrecia

[frigid wedge]

phrecia makes campaign hard af

[pallid frost]

aint got int for frostblink

[worldly bridge]

That definitely contributes

[spice pecan]

bows are bad

[pallid frost]

for me its still ez

[spice pecan]

do not play bows

[worldly bridge]

Get an intelligence amulet from vendor or from quest

Or grab a large int node on tree

[frigid wedge]

regardless, it makes it harder

[frigid wedge]

so use dash

[spice pecan]

it's insane to me that people see a problem and don't think of how to solve it

[pallid frost]

im using a leg amu

[pallid frost]

im using it

[worldly bridge]

A what

[spice pecan]

???

[pallid frost]

legendary amulet

[spice pecan]

get rid of it

uniques are bad when levelling unless you know what you're doing

[worldly bridge]

^

[gentle chasm]

not all tho

depends what it is

[spice pecan]

edited

[pallid frost]

karui ward is op

[spice pecan]

not really

if you can't fulfill your attr reqs

[grand flint]

whats the hit on deli orb farming? only del orbs?

[frigid wedge]

also campaign just feels like shit for some people btw

[pallid frost]

im ok with dash if i do 5k dps on LA

[frigid wedge]

occasional tink but mostly just orb and splinters

[spice pecan]

first off, ditch that amulet for an int one or a str/int one. get big life and resistances

second off, ditch a life and mana flask for quicksilvers, your character is slow as fuck

[worldly bridge]

Lose a mana flask and get a quicksilver

[frigid wedge]

orbs sell good

[gentle chasm]

or 2

[frigid wedge]

someone ping me when we stop having the campaign convo

im gonna watch youtube

[spice pecan]

is that not what we all do anyway

[worldly bridge]

Omg their poor inventory

[pallid frost]

their?

[worldly bridge]

Yes yours

[frigid wedge]

no i tend to sit here and stare at the empty chat until its not empty because im a sad fuck

[pallid frost]

im a male, look at my pfp im the Big Yahu

[spice pecan]

uniques in this game generally aren't great unless you know what you're doing. this is very different than diablo

[pallid frost]

how you know i play diablo

[worldly bridge]

I use they if i don’t know someones gender

[spice pecan]

because you're using random uniques

[tranquil sedge]

cringe as fuck

[worldly bridge]

But ill use he/him from now

[pallid frost]

no one asked you

[tranquil sedge]

turns out if you post in public discord, randoms can comment on you

who knew?

[spice pecan]

drop the uniques from your build, get rares (yellows) with better stats

fix your attributes with your amulet

[pallid frost]

really?

ty for teaching me how discord works

[brazen vector]

neverrrr

[frigid wedge]

oh heavens we used gender neutral language, the thing intended to be inclusive

[worldly bridge]

Also prioritize getting over 75% resistances wherever possible

[spice pecan]

seven-league step is okay on the boots slot

[worldly bridge]

So youre prepared for kitava drop

[spice pecan]

but you have to play around not having jack shit else besides movement speed in boots

[worldly bridge]

I personally try to drop all twink gear asap

[spice pecan]

which is easy for experienced players but hard for newbies

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge HEY HI HELLO UWU

[worldly bridge]

That way i get the feel of the build sooner

[spice pecan]

i personally dont twink with seven league steps unless i have 30ms boots lined up, because the dropoff feels fucking horrid

[worldly bridge]

Im also fast enough i can do campaign in only two play sessions not four

[brazen vector]

I was leveling to 90 on my seven league steps

[frigid wedge]

haii alesia!

gm

[worldly bridge]

True

[grand flint]

i see thanks

[spice pecan]

yeah i leveled my aurabot to 94 in 3.26 on tabby+hollow palm+seven leagues

[blissful zodiac]

3.28 when

[tranquil sedge]

anyone calling themselves the 'the big yahu' probably more leans more towards an 'it' than anything else i reckon

[blissful zodiac]

im rdy for 3.28

[worldly bridge]

True

Im playing a smite slayer rn in std for practice in the mean time

[frigid wedge]

i seem to remember levelling smth to 84 from 68 in blood aqueduct so it could be worse

[tranquil sedge]

i want to be ready for 3.28 but im worried about the patch notes

[spice pecan]

but like i knew what i was doing

[tranquil sedge]

3.27 did not inspire confidence

[frigid wedge]

what u practicing

[spice pecan]

which is super different

[worldly bridge]

Smite slayer xdd

[frigid wedge]

fair

i need to decide what im doing and stress test it as a starter

[worldly bridge]

I JUST said it lol

[spice pecan]

poison EK

make it happen

it's like 1 to 1 the same gearing and tree as poison BV

[worldly bridge]

What is ek

[frigid wedge]

theres a lot going on in this chat 😭

[spice pecan]

but you swap unleash for woke chain

[frigid wedge]

put it on sabo instead and arcanist brand it

with assassin f/f later

[spice pecan]

double mana costs are unfortunately not sustainable

[frigid wedge]

why

just reduce it

and leave extra unreserved

[spice pecan]

it gets huge

[worldly bridge]

Just go blood magic

No mana no problems

[spice pecan]

you cant do that

[frigid wedge]

like the useless little creature i am i am very liable to play a completely unrealistic leaguestarter again

[spice pecan]

you either have to play zhp with rathpith or you have to play eb

[frigid wedge]

such as an int mana stack templar

[frigid wedge]

why tho

just

get ehp?

[worldly bridge]

Its only bait if you let it bait you

[frigid wedge]

also heres a third suggestion... whispers of infinity it

[spice pecan]

if you're sacrificing your entire life pool to trigger the spells you need a way to prevent dying

[frigid wedge]

:P

spell leeched as es

[spice pecan]

doesn't sustain

not even a little bit

[frigid wedge]

did you by chance

[brazen vector]

dont worry, be happy

[frigid wedge]

try to play this

[spice pecan]

yes

[frigid wedge]

and fail horribly

[spice pecan]

unfortunately

[frigid wedge]

and now ur projecting

[spice pecan]

i tried both triggerbots and mines on sabo

with EK

[frigid wedge]

hes projecting

i dont even LIKE ek very much

[spice pecan]

i mean go try it

[frigid wedge]

it has no range without proj speed

[spice pecan]

the spell costs of triggerbots get fucking insane

[frigid wedge]

and atp id rather play spark or reap

[worldly bridge]

This means it just needs more investment

[frigid wedge]

or exsang

[worldly bridge]

Infinite budget

[spice pecan]

spark/exsang/reap are snoozefest

play a cool skill

[frigid wedge]

if im leaguestarting im probably gonna either int mana stack or be a responsible adult and play toxic rain

[spice pecan]

the valley between intstack and toxic rain

lmfao

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[native abyss]

finally got one

[frigid wedge]

sorry you what, spark is funny as shit on high proj speed and exsang has some of the most satisfying mines clear in the game

[native abyss]

[frigid wedge]

ggs

[frigid wedge]

and reap just looks cool

[tranquil sedge]

eastern europeans will say intstack leaguestart is ez

so its doable i suppose

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

but yea thats miles away from toxic rain lol

[worldly bridge]

Reap is the scythe skill right

[frigid wedge]

yeye

[tranquil sedge]

ya

[spice pecan]

will they also cope that TR is still playable

[worldly bridge]

Im used to poe2 reap

Still a really good skill

[pulsar dune]

You can try to buy a whispering ice asap and just play that to Ubers intstacking

[tranquil sedge]

idk

[spice pecan]

like why say you're either going to leaguestart something that isn't leaguestartable, or something that is utterly dogshit

[frigid wedge]

its mostly a case of: i know exactly what im like as a person and i dont make responsible decisions

[frigid wedge]

beasts, heist, lab

not bosses

just zoom

[spice pecan]

you want to sit in beast jail for 2 weeks to get barely 2k int

[frigid wedge]

idk

maybe

[spice pecan]

sounds like actual misery

[frigid wedge]

i wanna play rvob or mfa

[opal ingot]

something something astramentis?

[frigid wedge]

and both are templars that int mana stack

[spice pecan]

intstack is like, giga not league startables

no, they're mana stackers

[frigid wedge]

i am aware mythik

[spice pecan]

and toxic rain is an F tier league starter

why not just play slams or something decent

[frigid wedge]

toxic rain is the leaguestart u click to do content that doesnt require dps

[frigid wedge]

because boring

[spice pecan]

i hate slams too

[frigid wedge]

i need u to understand my keepers leaguestarter was SHIELD CHARGE

[spice pecan]

in fact i fucking despise slams

[spice pecan]

that's your fault for playing a 2014 mathil build

[opal ingot]

did slams take away your kids

[worldly bridge]

I cant believe my oomf hates slams

[frigid wedge]

would u rather i started mf penance brand and spend 2mo in sanctum jail

[spice pecan]

actually yes

[frigid wedge]

again

[worldly bridge]

How will i ask them to league start with me now

[spice pecan]

very yes

[frigid wedge]

for the third time

[spice pecan]

play pbod inquis and play sanctum

at least that's a decent leaguestarter

[frigid wedge]

OH FOR FUCK SAKE I HAVE TO FIND SMURF AN ICICLE MINER

kms

[worldly bridge]

Huh

[frigid wedge]

someone got a leaguestart for icicle mines

[spice pecan]

tr is terrible and intstack is terrible on leaguestart

[frigid wedge]

thats worth using

[spice pecan]

icicle mine of fanning deadeye is a thing iirc

[frigid wedge]

forgot im his supreme helper minion

[spice pecan]

so you can at least do some atlas prog

[pulsar dune]

Yeh just do the dissolution deadeye thing

It's real

[frigid wedge]

im aware, i need pob, not for me

he wants to do sanctum and bossing w it

xD

[spice pecan]

then go inquis idk

just go zhp and crit investment

[pulsar dune]

Deadeye probably still.better

[spice pecan]

it's not super hard to convert

[frigid wedge]

yeah but im not about to make him a pob for it

[spice pecan]

it takes like five minutes

[frigid wedge]

mythik when i try to make a pob i sit there for 3 hours

because im indecisive

[opal ingot]

smite is so fun

[spice pecan]

dont path to shadow area, path thru scion for mines cant be damaged etc

and then just rebuild the tree on a zhp templar, no block nothing

get 400m dps on 3 fingernail clippings budget

[frigid wedge]

doesnt icicle mines primarily want extra proj for dps

[fickle glen]

If I split my damage in half to physical and fire would that increase my overall damage for bleed and ignite or is it best to have only 1 instead of 2?

[spice pecan]

you anoint multishot iirc

[opal ingot]

i can't believe smite is not a slam

[pulsar dune]

Pretty much just this
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers?class=Deadeye&skills=Icicle+Mine+of+Fanning&timemachine=hour-12&sort=dps&heatmap=true

[fickle glen]

Believe it

[tight plinth]

focusing on one type is better

[native abyss]

never seen this before

5c

[lean urchin]

no, not new

[tight plinth]

thats old old

[spice pecan]

and you just swap to regular icicle mine for single target/sanctum iirc

[native abyss]

i didnt say it was new i said ive never seen it

[fickle glen]

Really? The wiki shows a 90% of ignite damage and a 70% of bleed damage

[spice pecan]

unless im trippin

[pulsar dune]

Wouldn't do it for sanctum, maybe for the bosses

But other than that yea

[frigid wedge]

he acts like a special little baby so ig ill go find a full build guide or smth

[tight plinth]

i mean either go full ignite scaling or go full bleed, i dont see a scenario where scaling both is good

[spice pecan]

or if you want a bosser, you can go OMEGAGIGACHAD

and go scorching ray totems

god that build is so good

[frigid wedge]

last time i suggested him totems he told me it was completely useless till 10d invest

being swt

[tight plinth]

especially if you have the shaper mtx

[spice pecan]

wtf

[brazen vector]

oh noooo 10d investment, what will we do

[worldly bridge]

Totems have such good base power

[fickle glen]

I need to do some math for this

[spice pecan]

totems are very very good before 10d lol

and way better after

i say this as someone who plays multiple different totem builds every league

[past rain]

how can this take 51 hits to make +2 ?

[spice pecan]

shockwave totem is more of a sanctum build because of the freeze

[frigid wedge]

yeah im aware

[tranquil sedge]

?

[spice pecan]

but you can play either scorching ray or ice spear totems for general bossing

[frigid wedge]

but he couldn't get the shockwave totems to do anything

[fickle glen]

I’ll give it a try on my bald Gandalf

[frigid wedge]

for sanctums

[brazen vector]

look at the weights of the mods xD

[spice pecan]

did he do pc stack or selfcurse

[tight plinth]

im guessing craftofexile is saying 51 hits to hit either or

[tranquil sedge]

you should ask for what you want to make

[pulsar dune]

Did he forget to equip astral projector?

[past rain]

ohhhhh

[tranquil sedge]

that question wasn't very clear

[past rain]

i get it

[spice pecan]

pc stack is better for shockwave totems

[past rain]

because its not 3 prefiux everytime

ye

[spice pecan]

but selfcurse is better for ice spear

[frigid wedge]

pc

[tranquil sedge]

wat

[spice pecan]

literally a skill issue then

[tranquil sedge]

send ur coe link wat are you making

[spice pecan]

swt is autopilot thru sanctum

on pc stack

[past rain]

+2 chaos

[tranquil sedge]

how are you making it

that seems like the wrong way to make it but let me double check

[tight plinth]

oh wait its fossils with all the strike throughs

[tranquil sedge]

is this a wand base?

[past rain]

yeah

i find out if i make ilvl 82 i can remove chaos dmg

[frigid wedge]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3685029

[past rain]

then its 1 in 12

[frigid wedge]

for leaguestart

[pulsar dune]

You need ilvl 82 or 4 socket resonators

[tranquil sedge]

that's just for +1 not +2 right

[tranquil sedge]

the 1/12?

hmm

[pulsar dune]

Nah, chaos wands do land +2 with fossils pretty well

[spice pecan]

yeah juju is the guy for swt, but your buddy either built it incorrectly, doesn't know how to play totems, or doesn't know how to play sanctum

shockwave totem is like arguably the freest build for farming sanctum

[surreal musk]

with those 3 fossils getting +1 / +1 / spell dmg is garunteed if u get 3 prefix yeah

[surreal musk]

on ilvl 82-

[pulsar dune]

Ilvl

[spice pecan]

i was doing i83 tomes at like level 72 without a timeless on swt

[native abyss]

wtf rich

[tranquil sedge]

oh cool

[past rain]

make ilvl 82

[fickle glen]

Cassi, the math shows an increase in damage by 8% if I had both

[spice pecan]

build is fucking busted for sanctum

[pulsar dune]

Or you have to go 4 sockets to drop the attack mod

[spice pecan]

but yeah juju is goated for swt

[pulsar dune]

(which means you can do it on a suffix fracture)

Ilvl 82 fractures aren't really a thing

[tranquil sedge]

wait

what wand base is this

some wand bases have 'cannot roll caster' on them yeah? that will stop fossils working?

[frigid wedge]

fair enough

u got an order of upgrades for it

idk how many more times i can play pbrand

[tranquil sedge]

@pulsar dune @past rain

[past rain]

any

spell dmg

[tranquil sedge]

no look at my next sentence

[spice pecan]

+1 totem shaper shield -> decent corrupt replica restless ward, then uhh

+1 power charge heatshiver

wait the heatshiver comes first i think

[past rain]

yes

[pulsar dune]

Uncorrupted badge

[tranquil sedge]

so you can't do that on some wand bases basically just keep that in mind

you'd have to recombinate if you wanted it on those bases instead

[spice pecan]

a lot of the upgrades are corruptions so you basically want to get +1 pc heatshiver first and then the rest come later, after that you want rmr cluster to fit in pain attunement

from what i remember

once you get pain attunement and your corrupts, it is very hard to fail sanctums unless you run into lasers/dont know their hitboxes

[frigid wedge]

from leaguestart

[frigid wedge]

like

what u buy first

to get it going

[spice pecan]

league start storm burst or flameblast of celerity totems

then get the uniques to transition into swt

[pulsar dune]

I take it double CIP astral proj isn't really viable huh

No freeze sounds painful

[spice pecan]

don't run CIP because you do cold damage

[pulsar dune]

Especially with swt pushing everything around

[frigid wedge]

astral proj isn't cheap early

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, that's the big bottleneck

[spice pecan]

it's <10c by day 2

[spice pecan]

the reason you run cold convert over lightning is because freeze mitigates this, but freeze is also a great defense and you dont rly need damage from shock

[pulsar dune]

Yea, and heatshiver hatred

[spice pecan]

yeah

[pulsar dune]

It do be good

[spice pecan]

once you can get watchers eye combo for 100% cold convert you can drop hrimsorrows for rare gloves too

maybe with 35% unveil if you need

[pulsar dune]

Double CIP Expedition end LOGIN /j

[spice pecan]

phys shockwave totem empire's grasp on blight tho

is so fucking funny

[pulsar dune]

That I do believe

[spice pecan]

it's not good in any way

but it's funny

[pulsar dune]

I gotta play reverse knock back kineticism shrapnel ballistas sometimes

But it's just way too hard to make that setup do anything relevant

[dark sequoia]

Is Somatic Shell still at 0% use? lol

[spice pecan]

scope out astral projector under 10c, scope out +1 pc heatshiver under 1d, find a decently priced badge, nowadays i think you need pc ralakesh but you could maybe run endu ralakesh

[frigid wedge]

iirc u run frenzy ralakesh

and use pcharge grand spectrums

[fickle glen]

Anyone know which slam skill (str only) has the highest base damage?

[spice pecan]

yeah i last played it in 3.25 when we had good ralakesh, we didnt run grand spectrums at all

but that's an option

[pulsar dune]

Spectrums aren't going to exist realistically

[frigid wedge]

perforate of duality has highest damage effectiveness per skill use

[spice pecan]

the problem is is that you really want to get the rmr cluster to go low life

[dark sequoia]

My plans for next league are:

1. Eviscerate Ignite Leaguestart
2. Mjolner Static Strike for funsies
3. Trauma Pillar of the Caged God memes

[fickle glen]

Isn’t that str and dex?

[spice pecan]

which costs a ton of passives

[frigid wedge]

its just what i see a lot of

[frigid wedge]

idk man

[spice pecan]

ye idk, i havent played it since ralakesh change

you CAN also play it as selfcurse

[fickle glen]

Looking for str only slam

[frigid wedge]

ik it hits like 11 times with conc effect support

go look then

[spice pecan]

if you play it as selfcurse tho then i think it's a bit worse

and needs more gear and really wants mageblood

[pulsar dune]

Doryani gloves are 1k DE

[frigid wedge]

yeah im just sick of constantly using penance brand for builds

[pulsar dune]

But that's a bit meme

[spice pecan]

soul mantle gives you a 7L

and self flagellation jewel gives you giga damage

get 100% reduced curse effect and boom

[fickle glen]

Asking is looking lol

[frigid wedge]

and other sanctum build is discharge or bama, neither of which is very good anymore

[frigid wedge]

we're clearly having a conversation though, i gave an answer and if it is wrong i need you to look and then come back and tell me I'm wrong

[spice pecan]

the other sanctum builds i would consider would be icicle mines, ice spear totems, or maybe like poison srs

[frigid wedge]

but rn doing smth

[spice pecan]

discharge of misery is viable if you have money

[frigid wedge]

what

[pulsar dune]

@fickle glen depending on exact context
Crushing fist
EQ of amplification
Tec slam of cataclysm

[frigid wedge]

are u doing w misery

isnt it completely ass

[spice pecan]

you can cast it fast as fuck with 8 digits of damage per cast

it's not great

[frigid wedge]

rather just

70m single cast

on norm discharge

[fickle glen]

EQ stands for?

[frigid wedge]

xD

[spice pecan]

you get 70m per cast

[pulsar dune]

Earthquake

[frigid wedge]

earthquake

[spice pecan]

multiple times per second

[frigid wedge]

why tho

it has so much less dmg than norm discharge

and also, how would u charge sustain

[spice pecan]

because you have money and you put it into a charge stacker

you play slayer

[frigid wedge]

how does it SUSTAIN tho

u consume the charges

for every cast

[spice pecan]

idk, scold's bridle or precursor stuff

[frigid wedge]

how are u maxing out all 3 types multiple times per second

[spice pecan]

i haven't played that shit but i've seen it

[native abyss]

anyone running legion idols

[frigid wedge]

other than using volls amulet which bricks ur max charges i dont think theres good ways without farrul

[spice pecan]

you only care about power charges

endu and frenzy take care of themselves iirc

[frigid wedge]

frenzy gen is on hit in 99% of cases and endu generate once per second

[spice pecan]

i'm not sure either discharge is particularly good for sanctum anymore tho

[frigid wedge]

farruls fur is the best way to make discharge viable for anything

[spice pecan]

but i just know that discharge of misery was used for it

[frigid wedge]

discharge before ralakesh changes was v good in sanctum

[spice pecan]

ye that was my point

[frigid wedge]

with current state of ralakesh its really mid

u cant gen max of all charges by standing for 0.5 sec anymore

so farruls is next best thing

[spice pecan]

pbod -> swt -> icicle mines/ice spear totems

is like my top 4 for sanctum in that order

[dark sequoia]

Monastery Bell + Shaper Shield has been a charge generation thing I've been wanting to try but idk if it's any good

[spice pecan]

after that it's like discharge -> poison srs/poison RAW ->basically anything else

[frigid wedge]

raw?

[spice pecan]

ranged animate weapon

[pulsar dune]

Animate weapon of ranged arms

[frigid wedge]

oh

ew

for sanctum?

dont u need to resummon every room

[spice pecan]

yeah, both of those poison builds do a shit ton of hit damage

so dot cap doesn't matter

who cares about resummoning, it's already C tier anyway

[frigid wedge]

true

i wonder if bama can still perform

bc the dura change isnt rlly relevant in sanctum

[pulsar dune]

Apparently bouncing concoction feels decent in sanctum

[frigid wedge]

other than on lycia

[spice pecan]

i haven't seen bama sanctum, i don't really like the idea of teleporting in front of a mob

[frigid wedge]

i imagine u click mirror arrow most of the time

and blink arrow to follow it

[spice pecan]

but then you can still get clipped by aoe

and dodging lasers with blink arrow seems cringe as fuck

[brazen vector]

Kinda auto summon with bladefall of thratus anyways

[spice pecan]

also this, you just run bf of tartar

and just unleash cast

[frigid wedge]

it used to be bama swt and pbrand for sanctum

for a league or 2

idk how u ran the bama sanctum stuff

[spice pecan]

yeah bama is not a build i am very familiar with

[frigid wedge]

i just know it was considering a tier

[spice pecan]

it doesn't seem super great since you can't take advantage of pain attunement or LL in any way

[frigid wedge]

maybe

[spice pecan]

but it might have been in its heyday

[frigid wedge]

maybe

[spice pecan]

but it is a minion/proxy build

so it can't be terrible tbh

[frigid wedge]

mmh

maybe

might try swt

[spice pecan]

i recommend it, league start as stormburst or flameblast of celerity totems

don't swap once you get astral projector at like level 40, it's bad

get the entire pc stack or selfcurse setup, whatever you choose to do, first

[frigid wedge]

right

[spice pecan]

you can swap before lowlife tho

as long as you get a decent timeless

[frigid wedge]

so can stormburst/flameblast do the sanctums

[spice pecan]

i wouldn't recommend either of those for sanctum tho

flameblast lacks single target and stormburst has too much ramp

[frigid wedge]

so wth do u do to get the gear

[spice pecan]

but you can try

you do white maps

or yellow maps

[frigid wedge]

ew

[spice pecan]

you can try to transition in act 10 before kitava

and do low level tomes without timeless/LL/etc

but i just opted to do it in like late white maps

[tranquil sedge]

how much do you need

currency, that is, in chaos?

[spice pecan]

astral projector, badge of the brotherhood, replica restless ward, ralakesh, hrimsorrow, void battery, heatshiver, malachai's loop

[tranquil sedge]

ballpark?

[frigid wedge]

atp just dont play sanctum

[spice pecan]

depends on how many divines the ralakesh boots are tbh

[frigid wedge]

need the entire build to start it

[spice pecan]

you can run rare boots as hiero but

[tranquil sedge]

if you ensure you buy heist contracts each time you level up from when you can access rogue harbour you'll acquire a nice stockpile at act 10

if you run all those focusing on the 3 contract types with currency chests, between that and misc loot and rogue markers you'll make 100-150c+ easy in 2h or less (depending on how fast you are)

[frigid wedge]

whats the point

[spice pecan]

i mean this is why people play pbod inquis for sanctum rushing

this is like the second fastest sanctum rusher

[frigid wedge]

thats depressing

as fuck

[spice pecan]

it's not really that slow tbh

you CAN do it before a10 kitava at least

but it's just better if you get into the 80s-90s

because of timeless and cluster shit mostly

at least from what i remember

but juju definitely knows more than me, i would take his thread over my word

[spice pecan]

also yeah this can get you the ralakesh you need

but idk if grand spectrums are in the picture at this point with the ralakesh nerf so

also the selfcurse setup is less gear requirement but less damage, too

so you could hobo a selfcurse setup for low level tomes, get some raw div, and transition to pc stack

selfcurse is probably annoying to play in sanctum tho since you have to sit at the start of a room for like 2 seconds before moving

[opal ingot]

poe is so fun

who can top this game

[frigid wedge]

this game can top me

i mean

what

[spice pecan]

[frigid wedge]

must have been the wind

[spice pecan]

cat sat on shoto's keyboard and typed that

can confirm, i was the drywall

[frigid wedge]

mhm

def

-# my cats are downstairs...

[spice pecan]

sorry i am a certified Totem Enjoyer and i love talking about them

[frigid wedge]

mythik likes the shafts

[spice pecan]

i'm only 204% gay according to my husband

idk if that's 204% increased or more tho, he doesnt play poe

[frigid wedge]

lmao

fair

im not loveable enough for that type of shit

[spice pecan]

nor am i but somehow he has been with me for 13 years now

[frigid wedge]

damn

nice

not jealous at all

[spice pecan]

be jealous of my totem knowledge

or be jealous of people who shitpost in here better than me

[frigid wedge]

nah

[opal ingot]

someone tried to do uber exarch for the challenge

but he can't get the challenge to count

but any other ubers can

[spice pecan]

i only heard about sirus being bugged for maven witness stuff

i forgot ive been standing in an ultimatum for like 20 minutes

mobs killing themselves slowly on my tempest shield

[frigid wedge]

ggs

[brazen vector]

good thing you only need 4

[opal ingot]

where's the mod that says "remove dogshit offers"

[brazen vector]

you want bargain

[opal ingot]

bargain for shit ground loot

[brazen vector]

if you only have shit syndicate members, sure

[modern zinc]

not big enough

glad we still have like 3 weeks to improve build before 3.28 hits

[frigid wedge]

str stack it

and go screenwide

[modern zinc]

the dream

[opal ingot]

holy

[modern zinc]

that's pretty good

[opal ingot]

we ramping

i will supply the market with syndicate medalloins

[frigid wedge]

gl sage

[native abyss]

W

[frigid wedge]

i need a tr quiver i think...

fuck

how do i even like

[opal ingot]

ty

[frigid wedge]

fit my stuff

if im replacing a 6L

i lose 40% inc life by socketing in my gloves

...

and i havent got enough mana

for skill use

h m m m m

[opal ingot]

lesson learned

dont open syndicate safehouse near fortification

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[opal ingot]

dogshit game

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[brazen vector]

what happens then?

[opal ingot]

abandoned safehouse

same thing when you move an inch after you open a safehouse and you didn't take care of intervention

whenever an event starts it auto abandons the safehouse

[pulsar dune]

yea, it's always annoying when that happens

[frigid wedge]

yeye

i may need someone's help later getting my conqueror idol slots

if anyone is willing...

[icy zinc]

this one extra block been bothering me

fk

[frigid wedge]

i have like 71 63

xD

[icy zinc]

:P

the rest can be acquired in jewels mostly

[frigid wedge]

rearguard + mastery is all of my block

[icy zinc]

and maybe eldritch body/craft

oh quiver

[frigid wedge]

yeah...

i need a new quiver so i can actually kill things

oshabi is annoying

[icy zinc]

bow block op

[frigid wedge]

mmh

i cant do the strat i want tho bc i need 4 conquerors and like 3 totems

[frigid wedge]

can only fit 2

[opal ingot]

i just realized

isn't recombing a 4 mod idol kind of fucked

the best you can go for is 2p1s + 1p2s

ah wait nvm i had a brain fart

im looking for 2 mod output,not 3 mod

so it's 62% twice

[whole bluff]

Is there any way to make a lifebased oshabi good?

Or will it just be squishy whatever I do?

[tough anchor]

Hey guys, is it possible to automatically upload the character in to POB or do i have to manually update everything in it

[whole bluff]

You can go to a tab where you have import options, search for your account, do it automatically

[tough anchor]

I searched for it and it says my account name but the tree and everything else is still empty

[whole bluff]

Pick the character in the list and click import jewels and gear + import gems (or something like that)

[opal ingot]

i saw someone with 22k hp oshabi

with 300k evasion

guess the items

[whole bluff]

But those are lifestackers

[tough anchor]

Thanks!

[whole bluff]

Using grey wind axe and foulborn evasion per flat life armour

[opal ingot]

yea

[whole bluff]

Man, the strongest part defensively on the ascendancy, but if you need gems you get: empty glove, 40% inc life

[brazen vector]

erm

[spice pecan]

nice dyadian dawn holy shit

time to play ba of vigor ignite

[pulsar ice]

Hate to be a poe ninja warrior but it's crazy how bad other people build around this skill

[opal ingot]

you bastard

[brazen vector]

4 flask and 50 dex

[fickle glen]

Hey, if my character gets sent to the void, is it possible for it to be rescued?

[brazen vector]

no

its basically deleted

with everything on it

[fickle glen]

Dang why does that even exist

[pulsar ice]

(the stashes are not deleted, only character's gear and inventory)

[fickle glen]

Such a high risk

[opal ingot]

challenge

and also a way to make money

[brazen vector]

thats the point xd

[undone gazelle]

so that you can bait ppl with a mageblood reward

[opal ingot]

and also to justify some builds being over the top ridiculous

[fickle glen]

Happened to you?

[undone gazelle]

nah, just sell it to someone who can run it

[brazen vector]

Ofc tree tree has to give me a megabald when I just bought one earlier >w>

[undone gazelle]

double corrupt it

[whole bluff]

just vendor it ez

[brazen vector]

Nah, gave one to my bf and the second is better so he gets that too

I dont need one

[whole bluff]

tries to look like a vendor

[brazen vector]

What's your catch phrase

[icy zinc]

is that a mayjblud

fuu

nice

[stuck phoenix]

Why is that both compressed and stretched

[brazen vector]

First meaningful drop from tree tree since keepers started

[brazen vector]

Why not

[whole bluff]

too fool for school 42069?

[icy zinc]

hell if i know

[stuck phoenix]

It looks stupid, but maybe that's the point

[icy zinc]

god damn

[brazen vector]

Yep x3

[icy zinc]

i miss 3.27 having those for 50c

[brazen vector]

You say that whenever you are approached ?

[brazen vector]

9 additional wisdom scrolls, respect the hustle

[icy zinc]

cheaper version

[dusky void]

howw TF do i get a ES body with 6 off colour sockets AHHHH

[whole bluff]

been a long time since that used to happen 😕

[modern zinc]

use the bench socket trick

[frigid wedge]

with great pain

[frigid wedge]

ur making a 6L

[modern zinc]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1225970748808630314

[modern zinc]

yeah it'll be expensive

[spice pecan]

bench jeweler trick is rough for 6 offcolors tbh

[modern zinc]

what isn't tbh

[frigid wedge]

best thing u can do honestly is just white socket tbh

[brazen vector]

its really not expensive :D

black morrigans are free for the 6 link

[spice pecan]

but it's probably your best option aside from getting 4-5 and praying on a blanching

[spice pecan]

the links arent the problem generally

[brazen vector]

jewelers are also dirt cheap

[spice pecan]

isnt it like 220 jewellers per time you click 6 and then 5

[icy zinc]

blue life users when they need to off colour 240 int twilight to all greens or all reds

[pulsar dune]

for 6 off colors you should definitely roll reduced attr requirements first

especially on a regalia

[spice pecan]

What does that have to do with colors tho

[brazen vector]

oh nooo 6 chaos per try, what will we do

[frigid wedge]

colour affinity is based on raw attrib requirement

less attrib is less affinity

ie easier to roll an off

[stuck phoenix]

Rather than "raw", it's just the actual attribute requirement

[spice pecan]

it's still far higher int than str/dex

[stuck phoenix]

If I hear raw I think without modifiers

[frigid wedge]

yeah but it helps

[frigid wedge]

fair enough

[brazen vector]

just socket recipe it, ngl

[spice pecan]

"i crack my fetch lands to thin my deck"

is what it sounds like idk lmao

[frigid wedge]

its still easier with lower req

[stuck phoenix]

You mean colour or count?

[brazen vector]

colour

[stuck phoenix]

Uhm

[brazen vector]

since this was about colouring

[stuck phoenix]

Have you looked at the numbers

[spice pecan]

it's still 100% int, 0% str/dex

isnt that what matters

[opal ingot]

XD

[stuck phoenix]

Of course not

[frigid wedge]

the amount of the requirement also matters

[stuck phoenix]

The higher the difference, the greater difference in odds

[icy zinc]

i just buy 5k chromatics and spam 2 off colour in crafting bench

[spice pecan]

huh, didn't know

[icy zinc]

eventually you get 5-6 off colour

[stuck phoenix]

Chromatic calculator

[spice pecan]

i thought it was just percentage

[covert swan]

Socket colour crafting calculator: http://siveran.github.io/calc.html

[frigid wedge]

thats why off colours on blunderbore are such a bitch

[stuck phoenix]

You need 100 times more

[opal ingot]

speaking of off color, i spent so much unnecessary currency on making the 10% inc damage per unlinked 2h socket graft work

only to find out the damage gain i get from it is barely 1% increase

[frigid wedge]

AYAYA

[opal ingot]

mainly because oshabi has a metric ton of inc damage bonus from its ascendancy

that 40% inc is nothing

[stuck phoenix]

Sorry, that's for 3 forced. It's 300 times more for forced 2

Assuming he wanted pure single off colour on twilight regalia

[brazen vector]

so hard

[stuck phoenix]

Are you stupid or just trolling

[native abyss]

whoa

[frigid wedge]

the 5th and 6th are the issue

alesia

[brazen vector]

they are off colours too

[frigid wedge]

yes but its still a ton of jewellers

[stuck phoenix]

Anyways, that's literally using the socket craft rather than colour craft

[brazen vector]

its 6c of jewelers

[frigid wedge]

per click

[brazen vector]

why would you ever colour craft

[brazen vector]

oh noo

[stuck phoenix]

And yeah it's what you gotta do

[ocean field]

Gng I have decided to drop the wand build

[stuck phoenix]

Hucu was saying to

[frigid wedge]

can i have it

[brazen vector]

so am I stupid or just trolling?

you decide

[ocean field]

Drop as in not do it

[frigid wedge]

damn

[stuck phoenix]

Ngl, thought you were someone else for a moment. My apologies

[brazen vector]

I said jeweler recipe FROM THE VERY START

[ocean field]

Too stupid and too much effort to make any non es stacking builds to wrk

[frigid wedge]

what were u cooking up

[icy zinc]

watuhel

[brazen vector]

youre good

[frigid wedge]

im convinced i just heard someone get slammed in the head with a frying pan

[ocean field]

Assassin kblast

[spice pecan]

yeah that makes a lot more sense now

[frigid wedge]

just move to tricky and int stack

[ocean field]

I was intstacking on assasin as well

[frigid wedge]

with what wand

[ocean field]

but I digress

[ocean field]

kinetic wand

[frigid wedge]

ok but what mods

[stuck phoenix]

Anyways, you go from 15.5 attempts to 14.2 attempts per socket, so it is worth to roll the reduced attribute requirements in raw value, though maybe not necessarily your time

[stuck phoenix]

Xddd

[ocean field]

lightning per int

addiontional light

int

[opal ingot]

int per int

[frigid wedge]

u can get spell dmg per int lightning per int

on a kinetic

[stuck phoenix]

Or in other words, about 8% cheaper
1-(14,2÷15,5) = 0,083870967741935483870967741935

[frigid wedge]

u just have to awaken the spell dmg on to it

[ocean field]

how

[stuck phoenix]

Well, disregarding the alt cost

[frigid wedge]

take one wand with lightning per int, and a diff influence wand with spell dmg per int, awaken one onto the other

[ocean field]

oh

[frigid wedge]

prefix lock, veiled chaos unveil ele pen and then do suffixes

[opal ingot]

is my attention span fucked or are hive fortresses just a bit too long

[stuck phoenix]

Fucked

[frigid wedge]

too long

i can afk them and they still take too long

[stuck phoenix]

They're quite long but like

[opal ingot]

i feel like blight did it quite perfectly

[stuck phoenix]

Not terribly long

[frigid wedge]

ive watched mika run a map and a half of crop rota while i sat in a fortress

[brazen vector]

I make emotes while afking fortresses

[frigid wedge]

lmao

maybe i should craft a couple dot quivers

[ocean field]

dude what to switch for the amulet

[opal ingot]

bro this 155% chance to give rank on execute might be limited to just 100%

[ocean field]

amulet too expensive

[frigid wedge]

greatwolf

[ocean field]

hmm

[frigid wedge]

or astramentis

[ocean field]

but greatwolf pob's don't do damage tho

why

it is like a 10x reduction

or rather people just don't make them I guess

[frigid wedge]

bc ur losing % per int and ur only getting 2/3 of the % inc

also of ur poor enough to need greatwolf ur not rich enough to make rest of build as good

so pob is worse

[ocean field]

wallahi

how much are we talking for a decent build

[frigid wedge]

its an int stacker

guess

xD

[ocean field]

2 mirror

or am I lowballing

[frigid wedge]

probably

about right

[ocean field]

wallahi

[frigid wedge]

including simplex

[brazen vector]

Just craft a budget int stacker amulet

[frigid wedge]

that works too ig

just awaken dmg per and % int

[brazen vector]

Yea

[ocean field]

hmm

[brazen vector]

Or %attributes, %int awakener and beast lock into reforge influence for damager per int

On an int base

[ocean field]

how close can I get to my current build's damage

[frigid wedge]

idk what it is

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/eKBFGLqvV8KG

[frigid wedge]

not very

unless ur gonna shotgun every single blast

w nimis

[ocean field]

this is not a mapping build so I would even take like 50% of the damage

[ocean field]

oh

well fuck me sideways

[frigid wedge]

ok

when

[ocean field]

well now

since I spent like 5 hrs

[frigid wedge]

50% is probably achievable

with wall of force

[ocean field]

yeah

with positioning and shit

damm

not to mention this build like 300 div just 2 expensive items there one is light of meaning other is mageblood

I lowkey might just stick to fross gng

and keep my mental peace

Anyway thanks for tips

I might use them to make fross better

by intstacking

[dusky void]

how good is dmg of enemies hitting you is unlucky?

[ocean field]

meh

[dusky void]

i could take it inctead of cloak of flame and go from 72k phys max to 55k phys max

[ocean field]

I guess you could try

[dusky void]

and its 20% move speed better shotgun protection probably may try it

[ocean field]

dude btw

unlucky is just roll

so I doubt it increases max hit

since u can still get hit for the full hit damage if you get well unlucky

[dusky void]

yeah but during shotguns where i get hit alot and my recover on block with glancing blow tries to work against it making enemies deal instead of 1000 only 900 dmg can help

[ocean field]

ah

for shotguns

just get recover on block or smt bro

much easier

[dusky void]

yeah because ehp doesnt look too good

thats with recover on block

[ocean field]

you'll be fine

I am fine with ts in any 8 mod map

t16 and t17 unless I get fumble by standing on stupid shit

[dusky void]

i realy hope the build ends up beeing good currently leveling it its a fulcrum ephemeral edge ES stack ignite build

[ocean field]

hmm

[dusky void]

last phercia i already wanted to use scavs fulcrum

[ocean field]

btw how did u even get to 72K max phys hit

are you converting es to armor

wait even that will not be enough

[dusky void]

and i think that will be the best fulcrum or eviscerate build i think fulcrums proplem is it has no single target eviscerate is super clunky if you combine them it will excell at both

[ocean field]

is this with or without immortal call

[dusky void]

no 20% taken as chaos 30% as fire thats why im thinking about dropping the 30% as fire if its too much

[dusky void]

that was against uber pinnacle and with frost shield thats without frostshield and normal pinnacle

[ocean field]

so no immortal impressive

[dusky void]

17500 ES is big

[ocean field]

oh

u at 17.5K

no wonder

[dusky void]

i got literally my 2 BIS rings with 2 BIS implicits lol

[ocean field]

I am at like 10K

[dusky void]

the glancing blow pathing looks so ugly i hate it

[frigid wedge]

yes

[opal ingot]

wheres my damn syndicate medallion

give me the money

[frigid wedge]

in alesia's merch tab

[opal ingot]

damn i didn't instakill hivebrain gland bosses

[dusky void]

do you have the armour ES mastery for 5% recover on phys hit?

[stoic horizon]

they are crazy in phrecia

they feel much tankier

prob depends a lot on rng mods too

[icy zinc]

gland thingy is nice for opening 6 chests

and leaving

[opal ingot]

lol now my left click is refusing to respond sometimes

[opal ingot]

mods didn't have any defensive, only crit

maybe my build is just ass

[stoic horizon]

nah mine felt much harder than usual as well

couldnt do it on my miner that melts exarch before he can ball phase

[opal ingot]

oh nice

[ocean field]

I have the recover 5% es on block mod on shield

[finite quail]

@spice pecan btw

[frigid wedge]

do you have block

[finite quail]

I just looked it up

thats the only filter

11 people playing it

only 6 past level 90

[frigid wedge]

yeah bc its super eh