1┃general

[split maple]

bc i got lightres stack to finish and then league will be over

[cobalt blade]

im still hopeful they buff spark and i can recreate a god char for it

[frigid wedge]

its ek u just grab the biggest hatred the world has ever seen

[split maple]

maybe as lategame project for next league

[cobalt blade]

doesnt ek have kind of miserable base damage?

[frigid wedge]

inquis spark this league solved proj speed on grafts

[cobalt blade]

Ye i saw the setup

Friend of mine played it

wasnt super strong though just good enough didnt seem like a valdo runner

[frigid wedge]

i mean, the miserable bit is the base cast speed of massacre

[cobalt blade]

oh idk the trans gems for ek

.75 cast time holy

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/h7-fRNTMJbFP

[frigid wedge]

u go nimis

[cobalt blade]

Thiiink id scale ek of the massacre with golems over aura stack though

[opaque sphinx]

why does pob think i have less ev than i do

[cobalt blade]

seeems better with golem buff things

[opaque sphinx]

and es

[frigid wedge]

i got 20m tooltip on it yesterday on herald stack while afk in sims with hh

xD

[opaque sphinx]

what the helly

why does it randomly allocate one cluster but not the other

[cobalt blade]

allocate it save close the pob and then reopen it

[frigid wedge]

im more likely to play mfa next league tho

[cobalt blade]

any time you reimport it will save those clusters taken

[frigid wedge]

maybe try an aurastacker after

[cobalt blade]

dunno why it works like that but i play too many cluster builds and noticed it

[cobalt blade]

based

[opaque sphinx]

fair

tyty

[cobalt blade]

not too bad

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/-JF08shiz4IM

there

almost 50m for a 5 link reave not bad

oh wait thats not including wreathed in light

[cobalt blade]

wreathed isnt real

[frigid wedge]

may need advice on the pob of i get to that, my specialty is phys convert

[opaque sphinx]

wym its not real

[frigid wedge]

but not auras

[opaque sphinx]

its p big dammy upgrade

[cobalt blade]

do feel free to send it over might be able to help

[cobalt blade]

But like how often do you actually stay on it for lucky uptime

[opaque sphinx]

i mean when bossing, a lot

u press it as boss spawns and it usually dies before u gotta move

[cobalt blade]

mmmmm fair

[brazen vector]

how often can I fail to slam the 1500/1900 weight -.-

[frigid wedge]

need to figure out how one makes mfa map fast first

[cobalt blade]

mageblood

[frigid wedge]

that isnt mapping fast

thats just running

[cobalt blade]

Best your gonna get as bow

[frigid wedge]

maybe

[cobalt blade]

hope you have enough damage to 1 shot everything which mfa should

[frigid wedge]

clear is bigger concern actually tho

for non phrecia mfa

btw

[cobalt blade]

uuuuh

Yea im not sure how your solving that tbh

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/CrxyLiEXMPHd

[scarlet jacinth]

I was playing cws poison.. damn corpse pact ff expensive

[cobalt blade]

probs just flat on quiver like you mentioned before hope its enough

[frigid wedge]

might just put chain on lightning arrow

[opaque sphinx]

yeah wreathed is like

40% more dmg

[frigid wedge]

and grab wrath with my blessing skill

[cobalt blade]

That do be lucky with damage ranges

[frigid wedge]

kinda itching to play es

[opaque sphinx]

the flat dmg is even like 6mil there

that one surprised me but i guess my acc is kinda low

[cobalt blade]

idooont know if wraths worth losing grace or purity for more int for more mana

/more lightning res if choir stays

[frigid wedge]

mmh

maybe

probs have to go inquis or hiero

[cobalt blade]

Yeeeh

[frigid wedge]

over deadeye unfortunately

or scion

which sucks

str int mana stacking seems like itd spread me too thin tho...

[cobalt blade]

the only real benefit of deadeye is tailwind and proj vs all the defence and freeing up your crusader anoint by going hiero

and better forbidden jewels

[cobalt blade]

if choir dies its fine since its mostly just clusters

shapers touch op

[frigid wedge]

yeah i mean i guess

but like

ci

and big mana

and indigon

[cobalt blade]

idt you can ci on mfa you lose clarity mana as es

[frigid wedge]

mmh

[cobalt blade]

(ivory solves chaos from going ll)

[frigid wedge]

shame

nty

no ivory

[cobalt blade]

D:

[frigid wedge]

xD

not an ivory enjoyer

[cobalt blade]

it gives chaos damage taken from mana before life

[frigid wedge]

doesn't mean i like the item :P

[cobalt blade]

fair

[frigid wedge]

i haven't clicked ci since 3.25...

[cobalt blade]

low key idk how it solves chaos then you lose so much going ci

holy

i havent not touched it since .24? Or .23

[frigid wedge]

yeah i was trying out splitting steel

[cobalt blade]

o7

was a good skill

[frigid wedge]

mine was zdps

[cobalt blade]

[frigid wedge]

facetanked uber shaper tho

[opaque sphinx]

@whole bluff oi

[frigid wedge]

but pathfinder does that anyways

[cobalt blade]

i tried it on eblade/ee setups a bit

Wasn't the biggest fan of how it felt to use but the damage was silly

[frigid wedge]

fair

i gotta play eblade rvob eventually

[cobalt blade]

(just the stand inside mob for returns stuff)

the sebk setup for that was sick

[frigid wedge]

yeah

only reason he went ee was because he ran out of reasons to get more dps

[cobalt blade]

Could actually be converted into a more aura stack eblade setup me thinks

lol

+1 bbd influence

[frigid wedge]

yeah

ive asked will about it

dps is a bit less w/o merc if u pick back up eb

but its not that bad

[opal ingot]

Foulborn ghostwrithe kinda crazy

[frigid wedge]

bad

no

[cobalt blade]

Ye its still reaching atleast 200+m

On good gear*

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[opal ingot]

Half of your hp is the es's value, so u can take eblade and your es won't get cut in half

Pretty neat for early mapping shenanigans until you get triple t1 es gear xd

[cobalt blade]

snapshotting shit be kinda fucked

[frigid wedge]

i guess no matter what i play im gonna be starting int mana Templar...

[cobalt blade]

lol

Quite possibly same depending on nerfs/buffs

[frigid wedge]

either manastorm rvob hiero or mfa

oh for fuck sake

naca please tell me you have a good leaguestart icicle mines pob

[cobalt blade]

nop not a fan of mines

[frigid wedge]

shit

guess that's an hour of my day today

bc smurf is lazy

[cobalt blade]

why specifically icicle mines

[frigid wedge]

he asked for it

[cobalt blade]

Ah

[frigid wedge]

and apparently i am supreme helper minion

(200 quests for the angler)

[icy zinc]

i think i should add things to sale

[cobalt blade]

feesh

[icy zinc]

(phrecia)

[frigid wedge]

maybe

i should actually play a real leaguestarter

and pivot

...

[cobalt blade]

love terraria fishing :3

and have on more than 1 occasion made a full fishing biome thing

[icy zinc]

[frigid wedge]

i play too much tmod when i play terraria

and steam reset my achievements

[cobalt blade]

oh that's pain

[frigid wedge]

so im missing a bunch

[cobalt blade]

Same but mostly calamity and randomizer mods of some sort

[opaque sphinx]

@whole bluff im prob be busy next few days, if ur still hurting for money lmk i can lend u some or my build to farm with. if u want it lmk and ill pass it before i head to work in ~5h

[frigid wedge]

I've played through calamity like 6 times atp

[opaque sphinx]

gn nerds

[cobalt blade]

holy

[frigid wedge]

gn Kira

[cobalt blade]

Think im at 4 or 5 return every few major patches

[frigid wedge]

we should play it together at some point

:3

[cobalt blade]

once as a trio with some friends where i did flawless supreme calamitas

[frigid wedge]

been meaning to try to hitless everthing on ranger

[cobalt blade]

id be down :3

prolly after3.28 tho

[frigid wedge]

yeye

[cobalt blade]

gonnnna be rusty as hell tho havent touched terraria properly in over a year

[frigid wedge]

same

[cobalt blade]

gonna sleep tho have funs n stuff

[frigid wedge]

i need to know ur opinion on recipe browser

not recipe

uh

magic storage

that one

[cobalt blade]

love it

[frigid wedge]

ayaya

[cobalt blade]

and id say mandatory for calamity

[frigid wedge]

true

gn naca

[frigid wedge]

are u just sending fake items

[scarlet jacinth]

Why..

[steep heron]

no https://poedb.tw/Unrevealed#NotingameUnique

[split maple]

This thing is on poedb yea

[cobalt blade]

yooo ejoris watchstone

[split maple]

Whats even that, items that were in datamine but never released?

[steep heron]

i guess so

there are gems and passives too

[split maple]

buncha of them named dev's something

now this one would be cool to shoehorn into builds

[icy zinc]

cmon someone corrupt brass domes please :-)

actually ill go visit temples myself a bit

[icy zinc]

this is lowkey broken

mostly top tree

[cobalt blade]

not limited to 1

[icy zinc]

zealoth oath - chaos innoculation - mind over matter - pain attunenemnt - iron will - magebane

[split maple]

also this would solve some issues on rightside

[cobalt blade]

Definitely balanced they should implement it

[icy zinc]

many build can pivot this

[opal ingot]

meanwhile me

ikik, gem slot

[native abyss]

[icy zinc]

k, double corrupt alvas are 220c now

[scarlet jacinth]

Those are a lil funny for a build . What minion build uses brass dome tho?

[icy zinc]

technically spiders but also like

i can use on absolution

which is highly controversial cause you'd want doryani prototype

in all its glory

but doesnt matter both fine for this last week of phrecia

[opal ingot]

jesus christ look at that range. why am i not using volatility yet XD

[scarlet jacinth]

I have a spidersilk covenant with those corrupts.

[opal ingot]

put foritfy over volatility

[frigid wedge]

because silly

2h ebladr btw

o.O

maybe

instead of leaguestarting smth with indigon

i act like a responsible adult

and play tr

however

that doesn't feel like me

[scarlet jacinth]

Just do what u normally do, random build. 1 week campaign, then reroll and repeat heh

[frigid wedge]

shh

what if i farmed frogs for 30d an hour

[scarlet jacinth]

Thats a big if

[frigid wedge]

very much so

but i should

[scarlet jacinth]

Lets await patch notes. Mayb there'll be a good new strat

[cosmic raptor]

Hmmm

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[scarlet jacinth]

The same levels of doubt as you playing an actual proper starter

[opal ingot]

maybe i should go smite

[frigid wedge]

i started slams for phrecia...

[native token]

slams is allways right

[opal ingot]

i wonder though, how do smite of divine judgement builds work?

[native token]

slams is allways good

[opal ingot]

like they just rock divine judgement and smite too?

smite to get the buff then divine judgement for the rest?

[scarlet jacinth]

Sans definitely had an OP slam meta build going

[frigid wedge]

what r u even doing

[opal ingot]

ayo... but these dont work on daughter of oshabi no?

[brazen vector]

HOLY SHIT HUGE SKILL TREE

[opal ingot]

oshabi life stacking eb

[bold scarab]

Which version of EK better?

[frigid wedge]

definitely wasnt consecrated path of endurance with no cooldown bypass

[frigid wedge]

for what

[opal ingot]

with this one

[bold scarab]

Idk was gonna yolo EK build next league

[opal ingot]

i legit only have a 6 link and a 2 link

[bold scarab]

Or now

[scarlet jacinth]

It was fast af tho

[opal ingot]

the rest is empty red sockets

[frigid wedge]

ppl prefer massacre

bc circle

[bold scarab]

What ascendancy

[brazen vector]

elementalist

[frigid wedge]

^

ek is traditionally an ignite build

[brazen vector]

OF COURSE ELEMENTALIST

[bold scarab]

Ew

[frigid wedge]

idk why

base dmg is completely doodoo

[bold scarab]

Sad

[frigid wedge]

but ppl like ek elementalist

[bold scarab]

NVM I don't wanna EK anymore ... That's dull

[frigid wedge]

aurastack ek when it was good was the shit tho

[cosmic raptor]

Is this Diablo?

[bold scarab]

Ek archmage kekw

[pulsar dune]

you can play EK shrine stacker with gold charlatan

[icy zinc]

[frigid wedge]

truee

but that's just herald stack with charlatan gull and blunderbore

[pulsar dune]

you really bother with heralds?

[scarlet jacinth]

I just want bama back

[brazen vector]

fellowship

[bold scarab]

Don't really have a good ascendancy for phys spells sadge

[brazen vector]

just fracture yourself, its free

[bold scarab]

Just like extremely generic stuff like trickster but that doesn't count

[icy zinc]

free NOWAE

[cosmic raptor]

No idea what that is

[bold scarab]

Bloodmage in poe1 when

ok to be fair bloodmage is the worst phys ascendancy in poe2 but still

[cosmic raptor]

Hopefully never

[icy zinc]

almost there

sacrifice of blood

[bold scarab]

Lol

[pulsar dune]

phys spell ele isn't that generic

[bold scarab]

Ye but then your going ele and not phys

[pulsar dune]

it's heralds instead of just stacking bond

true true

[bold scarab]

I want phys phys

[frigid wedge]

they go venarius+lost unity+hh

[bold scarab]

Something that even reap/exang can benefit from

[pulsar dune]

scion

[bold scarab]

Also EK and other blade spells ofc

Altho I think blade blast is part fire no?

[frigid wedge]

reap and exsang benefit from phys as extra scaling

[frigid wedge]

no

[bold scarab]

Oh nice then

[frigid wedge]

phys phys kinda sucks unless u plan to go entropic devastation impale

[bold scarab]

But ye if I'm playing a phys skill I wanna stick to hit or dot as phys

Phys spell

[frigid wedge]

entropic devastation impale is for spells

[bold scarab]

Ew uniques

[pulsar dune]

could play deadeye ek I guess

[bold scarab]

I don't think so

[frigid wedge]

https://pobb.in/u/paintmaster%232396/vStYOe2mR3Gz

this exists

[bold scarab]

+2 proj is like nothing when you already have 15

And they can't shotgun

[frigid wedge]

return helps

and iirc normal ek is sequential

[bold scarab]

Ye I was gonna put return on it anyway

Lel

[bold scarab]

It's not

[pulsar dune]

true, deadeye would have to go fury valve

which would be kinda crazy clear

but probably completely excessive

[bold scarab]

Big clear zdps uwu

[frigid wedge]

every ek build is big clear zdps

[bold scarab]

I actually thought about EK sabo

[pulsar dune]

sabo with some sort of trigger is probably the strongest form, yea

[frigid wedge]

its automating bv for unload there

with automation lock

[pulsar dune]

replica maloney is always funny

[bold scarab]

Ye but EK ... Use the passive that gives chance to return ... Use the passive that gives triggerbots

Uh

Idk about the rest

Kek

[pulsar dune]

(also is automation better than detonate)?

triggerbots, 40 CDR, blind, return

[bold scarab]

True

[frigid wedge]

eventually ill play a sabo build

[bold scarab]

The next time I played sabo I wanted it to be a miner/trapper ... But every time I play one of those it's on anything but sabo

Lol

[pulsar dune]

it's really just rolling magma these days

[frigid wedge]

sabo hasnt been good for mines or traps for a while thj

rolling magma is only good bc it saves u getting a nimis

[bold scarab]

Ye ik and it's irritating

[frigid wedge]

for random proj directions

[pulsar dune]

hey, nimis is expensive

[frigid wedge]

its not even for the return

its for random direction

[pulsar dune]

and not like the other sabo nodes are exactly bad

[cosmic raptor]

Any megablods?

[bold scarab]

They just aren't good

[pulsar dune]

well, they are worse than ele

[bold scarab]

Like

They are worse than almost any other ascendancy

Almost

[frigid wedge]

i hate how good elementalist is

[bold scarab]

I don't

[pulsar dune]

yea, they struggle to hit the 20% more

[bold scarab]

I think the old old version of elementalist is far superior tho

[frigid wedge]

every time i suggest a build that isnt literally melee, i get told to do elementalist

[bold scarab]

Old elementalist had passives that synergized with specific heralds and specific golems

[pulsar dune]

lucky crit with no downside would still be pretty mid

[bold scarab]

Alot cooler

[elder marlin]

Whats a good twink gear setup to leveling a templar?

[bold scarab]

I think the 3 shaper passives on elementalist today kinda are boring

[pulsar dune]

KF low duration lw

poets pen somewhere in there, probably needs travel skill cdr eye on templar

[bold scarab]

Like they aren't bad ... Not by a long shot

But yee

Idk

[brazen vector]

[pulsar dune]

shaper of storms and golems on one ascendancy is pretty crazy, and the other nodes are also good

[bold scarab]

Doesn't make them not boring ... And how much they generalized the golem and herald passives too

The only interesting part of elementalist is actually the worst part of elementalist

[frigid wedge]

the kf setup has got to be the most expensive actually worthwhile twink levelling setup in history

u spend 30-60d on a watchers eye

[bold scarab]

The conflux chain

[elder marlin]

Build look interesting af

[bold scarab]

I mean Bastian of elements is pretty cool too but not as cool

Lel

Elementalist should get pseudo trinity

Owo

When you cast one element it buffs the other 2 xD

Wait that's just ele equalibrium

[frigid wedge]

0 playrate node

[bold scarab]

Lel

[frigid wedge]

actually

if its a duration buff it would get pretty good playrate

you just pick ur movement skill according to ur main dps

[brazen vector]

it is :3

[bold scarab]

Ye I was thinking about that

Kinda

Or like

[split maple]

Isn't bastion pretty comparable with suppress now

[bold scarab]

Actually wait now I'm thinking of poe2 frost wall so nvm ... Nvm it's bad

[split maple]

If not stronger

[elder marlin]

Can i have pob pls

[bold scarab]

Nah it's like 2k flat ele dmg reduction

[frigid wedge]

bastion is just steelskin but ele

[brazen vector]

mine isnt really done yet, but I can send regardless

[bold scarab]

The only good thing is that shaper of flames does a small phys to fire conversion

[frigid wedge]

i have a pathfinder version for norm league

[bold scarab]

So you can block a little phys with it too now

[elder marlin]

I alr have occult version

[frigid wedge]

fair

[elder marlin]

Not harby tho

[bold scarab]

It's 40% right?

[elder marlin]

That aoe is insane

[split maple]

I Got so fucked by that node being bugged early league

[bold scarab]

The phys to fire on ignited enemies

[split maple]

You actually took more dmg with it before they bugfixed

[bold scarab]

Lol

That's funny

[split maple]

Was wondering why my slammer felt so squishy

[old pike]

getting server disconnects

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/UjLH0CF_Dvyd

weak sauce for now

[frigid wedge]

your flasks

[brazen vector]

need a better waepon and a second ring

[frigid wedge]

they hurt

[brazen vector]

and flasks

[bold scarab]

now we just go CI elementalist with shaper of flames and Bastian of elements ... And now you got every hit type covered kekw

[brazen vector]

as my therapist always says

One step at a time!

[frigid wedge]

fair

[bold scarab]

Chaos from CI
Ele from Bastian
Phys (partially) from Bastian

[frigid wedge]

i tend to prep half the gear for second builds and then swap EVERYTHING

and flasks is always one of those

bc like

flasks

[scarlet jacinth]

Back to Ci, bloodmage, eldritch battery build for peak ehp

[bold scarab]

Lol

[elder marlin]

2 betrayal

[brazen vector]

no, its already hard to cap res as is T_T

[bold scarab]

I hate swapping

I mean

[elder marlin]

Alira

[bold scarab]

Like when you have to like lvl as one thing and then completely change all your sockets and stuff for a different build

It just sucks sooo bad

[split maple]

anyways bastion is kinda crazy crazy good defensive node

[elder marlin]

Just do like a giga helical or cogwork

[split maple]

comparing to suppress on my heralder

[bold scarab]

Also the fact that I can't just level wit the skill I'm gonna be playing later (excluding lvl requirements to get the skill)

[limpid basalt]

are there problems with the game?

[bold scarab]

Not really

I mean it's good

But like

Idk

[brazen vector]

I am poor poor

[bold scarab]

It's better than barkskin on warden at least

That's like the only thing I can give it

[elder marlin]

Same 🤝

[icy zinc]

i got the power

heeman

random map mod ig

[bold scarab]

But like

It's no fortify

[brazen vector]

have 200d in shit that doesnt sell, so I guess I dont have 200d

[bold scarab]

It's no concentrated ground on stationary

It's no heart stopped

[elder marlin]

I have 1d

Like literally

[bold scarab]

It's no leech minion dmg to you on necro

[elder marlin]

If i sell every currency i have i could get 1d

[bold scarab]

Like there are so many things defensively better than Bastian

But at least it's better than barkskin

[frigid wedge]

isnt bark skin kinda strong tho

[bold scarab]

If you take all 4 passives sure

Cuz the suppress

But that's way too expensive

Also Bastian is only 2 lel

[split maple]

idk its stronger than fortify for ele dmg

kinda sad it doesnt deal with phys directly

but its still rly big dmg reduction

and perma uptime

[bold scarab]

Fortify op tho

[icy zinc]

this aint even 16.5

just happen to roll like this

funny

[split maple]

dotn get me wrong - bastion is still one of worst elementalist nodes

but elementalist kinda has a lot of OP nodes

[bold scarab]

It's one of the least boring nodes at least

[icy zinc]

bastion is defence but nobody likes defence

[bold scarab]

I find it funny that the 3 worst elementalist nodes ... Are also the least boring

[split maple]

like convergence is straight away like 30% dps on brands

[icy zinc]

blastin

[bold scarab]

The convergence conflux chain and bastian

[split maple]

comparable to lycia bloodline on heralder

if there wasnt pc from ff you would prolly ff one elementalist node just to take more of them

[bold scarab]

I hate ff

Screw all the necros yoinking the golem passive

[split maple]

i got fflame liege and if i somehow ever drop fflesh for it i am taking convergence no thinking needed

[bold scarab]

Not that I want them or anything ... I just hate that elementalist isn't the best golemancer

[elder marlin]

Ci gaming

[bold scarab]

Give elementalist the herald phrecia passive

Owo

The one where you chose between the 5 heralds and get a big buff xD

I wish herald buff effect scaled herald minions sadge

[split maple]

entire max hit investment on passive tree needed on one screenshot

[bold scarab]

Lol

[split maple]

that foulborn is so so underrated

[bold scarab]

ic

Just wondering

Would you say the best spell slinger ascendancy is scion?

[frigid wedge]

sabo

[marble flicker]

what is this blatant rmt strat

[bold scarab]

Cuz you can grab both the guardian reservation passive and the sabo cooldown passive on scion

[frigid wedge]

yeah but ur losing out on triggerbots

[bold scarab]

True

[frigid wedge]

well ig it depends on what ur slinging

[bold scarab]

I mean idk

[past mantle]

This but with investing into defence and recovery.

[bold scarab]

I was just saying in general cuz getting both the reservation and cooldown passives in 1 ascendancy

[frigid wedge]

its 35% less dmg but double the number of casts

so

[past mantle]

The golden rule is that if you want hc style /deaths you build like you're in hc.

[frigid wedge]

big

[bold scarab]

But if it's not thaaaat big then ye

[frigid wedge]

if u just get gem levels for spellslinger u should be fine

[limpid basalt]

does using ctrl + click bypass the landmine warning when buying things from other people on fautus? was buying maps

[bold scarab]

Isn't there a way to bypass the triggerbots penalty

[frigid wedge]

iirc

[pulsar dune]

Minions probably work, tho I'm not 100% sure

[frigid wedge]

ehhh

not really

[ionic briar]

why do ice agents have 338 sniper rifles ? xD bro was roaming the street whit it aswell

[bold scarab]

Arcanist brand? Altho that would mean losing a support gem and therefore losing 25-30% of your damage anyway

[frigid wedge]

arcanist is still a trigger

all that happens is u trigger more times

[pulsar dune]

Ah yea, minions work

[frigid wedge]

bc u double trigger recall, and double trigger brand

so u recall twice which arcanist triggers 4x

[bold scarab]

Well the idea was to cast a spell ... And have that spell cast another spell ... But only the first spell would get hit by the triggerbots penalty

[frigid wedge]

trigger is trigger

[bold scarab]

But like

Eben if it did work

[frigid wedge]

gl with mana cost

[bold scarab]

Your still losing basically the same ammount of dmg

[pulsar dune]

If the spell created a proxy that would cast a spell, that should work

But I don't think that's real

[bold scarab]

Cuz if you have a trigger setup your wasting at least one support gem slot

And that's typically 30% dmg

Give or take

So like even if it did bypass ... It wouldn't be gaining much really

Like maybe 5%

If not net neutral

[frigid wedge]

ye but the spam

do be kinda dps

[bold scarab]

Ye mana burn

Altho

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, it's a 40% more ascendancy notable that screws your mana and gives you 100% more fun

[bold scarab]

Brand would autocast a few times no?

And those extra casts don't cost?

[frigid wedge]

you put brand recall into a trigger, it triggers recall twice, which triggers arcanist twice, which triggers the skill twice

so

16

[bold scarab]

Ye nvm deds

[frigid wedge]

iirc

u can just severely decrease flat costs

[pulsar dune]

Activating arcanist brand isn't a trigger

[frigid wedge]

still 8

or 4

or whatever

[pulsar dune]

It's 2 recalls, 2 brand activations, 4 skill triggers

Per brand

[frigid wedge]

so 8

or no

[pulsar dune]

So 28 casts per second (assuming 1s recall CD), and then 50% more on top of that.

[bold scarab]

I like triggerbots ... But I wish it didn't steal your casts

[frigid wedge]

cant u get 7 max brands

[bold scarab]

I wish it was your cast + the 2 bots nerfed cast

Like unleash

either that or give me a 3rd bot just to ballance out the aesthetics

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

just play a proj skill with uneven proj count

wait

are u trying to spam the shit out of ek

oh lawd

[bold scarab]

yes Noooo

XD

[frigid wedge]

it has 19 proj

so

[bold scarab]

Also

[frigid wedge]

aesthetic

[bold scarab]

Hypothetically

If you had return on it

[frigid wedge]

completely hypothetical

[bold scarab]

Would they return to the trigger

Or you

[frigid wedge]

you

[bold scarab]

Owo

[frigid wedge]

iirc

[bold scarab]

Do they track you?

Like spectral throw

[gritty epoch]

U need to reduce base mana cost to close to zero so 0 x 28 x activation frequency = 0

[bold scarab]

Or is it just return from the direction it was going

[frigid wedge]

all return changes direction

towards u

[bold scarab]

Ah

[frigid wedge]

but it will go to the position u were when it started to return

it wont follow u

[bold scarab]

I just mention spectral throw ... Because ST always paths directly to you even if you move

[frigid wedge]

yeah no

[bold scarab]

Ah so it's just to you at the point it was coming back

[frigid wedge]

general return goes to original position when u start returning

[bold scarab]

Ye

[frigid wedge]

i think only venom gyre and spectral throw go back to you

[bold scarab]

And SST

I think

[frigid wedge]

doesnt sst just vanish once it runs out of chains

[bold scarab]

I forget if it returns to you or just bounces on things and disappears

[icy zinc]

i like how every abyss 40% inc exp idol skyrocketed

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[icy zinc]

venom gyre goated

[frigid wedge]

is storm rain of the conduit even any good compared to just

[bold scarab]

I coulda swore it returned like Captain America shield

[frigid wedge]

conc effect on normal storm rain

[icy zinc]

venom gyre is better played after cobra lash tho

after you get a bit of large clusters and what not

[frigid wedge]

balls

[bold scarab]

Cobra lash peak

[frigid wedge]

cobra lash is sad and tiny

[bold scarab]

Wear flaws

[frigid wedge]

it leaves much to be desired

[bold scarab]

Claws

[cosmic raptor]

Omg mageblood

[bold scarab]

Its really good with claws ... It makes the projectile look a lot nicer

[frigid wedge]

i think i pretty openly wear my flaws

[bold scarab]

Also it's just good with claws

Kek

Why do daggers even exist ... It feels like the only time I ever use a dagger is when it's a unique like CIP

[frigid wedge]

yeah but cobra lash doesn't fill my screen with green and 1 tap wave 13 omni when i have 5m actual dps

pointy

[icy zinc]

venom gyre on original deadeye has this funny potential of every projectile hitting walls and back to bosses

[split maple]

didnt do mamba yet?

[bold scarab]

Ye but it bounces all over the place

[split maple]

or rune dagger for like any spell on legstart

[bold scarab]

Pretty sure you use claws on mamba too

[frigid wedge]

venom gyre also has this funny potential of EVERY SINGLE CAUGHT PROJECTILE SHOTGUNNING ON WHIRLING

[bold scarab]

Ye when Wands exist no never

[split maple]

you use pneumatics if not doing mana-mamba, claws or whatever on mana mamba, but sais are kinda legit on manamamba

if you want to cope on block

[bold scarab]

I see

[split maple]

rune daggers are very often easier to craft than wands

[bold scarab]

Since when owo

[split maple]

like if you want to force +fire lvls

[bold scarab]

Ye but usually that's only to socketed skills

[split maple]

% fire dmg fucks you up on wand, on runedagger it dont

[bold scarab]

The wands are basically always all skills

[split maple]

no?

rune daggers have global +lvls

[bold scarab]

Huh

Ye idk I never see that

I got +1 to socketed phys and +1 to socketed chaos before

But that was it

On them

[pulsar dune]

That sounds like normal dagger

[bold scarab]

Honestly

It probably was kek

Idk

They don't stand out nearly as much as the minion wands do

also I keep mistaking blasting wands for coil wands

Lel

[icy zinc]

ayo tesla coil wands!

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[bold scarab]

Speaking of EK again ... Should I just get +6 levels and forgoe a good weapon?

XD

Honestly we got like a month till next league ... I might try to play EK anyway now

[dawn dirge]

Is anyone constantly getting dc'd from the server?

[frigid wedge]

may as well

either +6 staff or proj gloves

probably

[dusky void]

AH i hate that pherica is so dead i try sellinbg my old gear etc to fund a new build and gear worth 100div already lowerd the priece by ALOT is just not selling how am i suppossed to afford a new char AHHHH

[icy zinc]

rip mate

ye it is what it is

hard to sell gears but just essentials

maybe itll get better on weekend

[dusky void]

if it doesnt sell this evening at least some of the stuff i will stop playing the build will be SHIT without invest

[icy zinc]

other choice is decrease price even more, like 20-30%

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

xd

[dusky void]

i have a light of meaning chaos dmg with 5% aoe in keepers it is 50div i already lowerd the price to 25

[icy zinc]

ooo

oic

[bold scarab]

+6 as in 2 +3 CIP and a few dual wield wheels owo

Also maybe some nightblade?

Actually at that point you probably wanna go assassin

Hmmmmmmmm

I got 2 braincells and they all fighting for 3rd place

[frigid wedge]

o no

sicc?

[brazen vector]

Not really just exhausted

I need a hug

[modern zinc]

same

[frigid wedge]

don't u get as much hug as u want in like 4h

[frigid wedge]

me too

[brazen vector]

4.5

[frigid wedge]

close enough

i have no guarantee for it ever

._.

[brazen vector]

ah, now dont be so grim

there is hope for everyone!

[serene abyss]

While 3.28 is themed around the Maraketh, we're not adding Trial of Sekhemas to Path of Exile 1!
Uhh, did they forget Sanctum already exists?

[brazen vector]

wdym

[serene abyss]

Sanctum and Trial of Sekhemas are clearly already the same mechanic.

[brazen vector]

"we're

not

adding Trial of Sekhemas to Path of Exile 1!"

read

please

for the love of all that is holy

[serene abyss]

No one misread anything you cretin.

I'm saying it's already in POE1 under another name.

So of course it's not being added.

[brazen vector]

and your point is?

[opal ingot]

you know what i need

the tree to drop me a mirror

[brazen vector]

Id be happy with a headhunter ngl

[opal ingot]

though ngl if i dropped one i probably wouldn't be that much happy

like "oh wow hahaha that's insane"

[bronze falcon]

I'd be happy with a div at this point.... damn you tree

[opal ingot]

at this point in the league

it's been 5 leagues since my first mirror drop 🥹

[frigid wedge]

no matter how many times or how many people tell me ooh theres hope i very much am not gonna believe it

[brazen vector]

I have been printing belts since long before time had a name on the tree and NOTHING

[bronze falcon]

Been playing since kalandra, never had one lol

[opal ingot]

xdd

i think empy too

he never had a solo mirror until just recently when he did a div card strat

[brazen vector]

empy had a mirror last league

[opal ingot]

oh that was last league?

i thought it was this league XD

[brazen vector]

or am I confusing it with lolcohol

IDR

[opal ingot]

it was something about using settlers to juice up div cards

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yzSvJs0DJ4M

[brazen vector]

I remember first day of keepers jeepers, my bf went to the tree during acts and dropped 20 div

I cant even get a single div

BUT he never got a mirror, I always spoonfeed him some of mine :3

[frigid wedge]

i got 2 from a strongbox in settlers

[whole bluff]

If you have no time to play at all, then I could see not lending currency that I spend, but an idol set?

[brazen vector]

3 in affliction, 2 in necro, 1 in phrecia 1, 2 in merc league, none in keepers yet, I keep gombling and losing

[whole bluff]

And you get everything back when you're back @opaque sphinx

But I just realised elder guardians on t16 with tears are probably giga

And I might be able to afford making that

[somber sundial]

Kekw another frenzy charge for the build

[frigid wedge]

jfc

[frigid wedge]

what u doin

[somber sundial]

I’m now 10m damage past the highest fbok char on Poe ninja (he has 11L claw)

[somber sundial]

Frenzy charge stack slayer

Frost blades

[frigid wedge]

ok but standard?

[somber sundial]

Yea

[frigid wedge]

mmh

[somber sundial]

I didn’t enjoy 3.27

[whole bluff]

Wait wtf, does this exist? It looks out of place

[somber sundial]

Its ancestors league

Which didn’t go core

[whole bluff]

Ah

[somber sundial]

Those babies cost 50d per

Which is a fucking steal

[frigid wedge]

ah ues

127billion with the support smite

[somber sundial]

The padded champion

[somber sundial]

Ngl idk why it doesn’t say 1 trillion

[somber sundial]

He has 3 awakened enlightens I think

[frigid wedge]

shit isnt even close

[somber sundial]

Nah only 2

[somber sundial]

Sort by slayer for highest DPS and look for enough battles

That’s me :3

[hard cliff]

that's a steal

[somber sundial]

Yes, highway robbery

[hard cliff]

easy win

[frigid wedge]

cant see u

[cosmic raptor]

1b dps 5k life pool

[somber sundial]

Sort by frost blades then

I’m the highest damage for FBoK or fb

[frigid wedge]

thought u meant kata

[somber sundial]

Nah, just frost blades

[frigid wedge]

i enjoy the knowledge

that ur dps is absolutely abysmal for what it could be on std

because no armourstack

[somber sundial]

Well that’s the next character

[frigid wedge]

just armourstack on this one

:P

[somber sundial]

Nah

[frigid wedge]

why not

also

[somber sundial]

Too much work plus I want to preserve this character

I’d rather just make another

[frigid wedge]

highest mana on std rn is apparently

74k

[somber sundial]

That’s a lot of mana

[frigid wedge]

the SECOND that keepers migrates its gonna be like 2m

[somber sundial]

Oh yeah cuz of foulborn

[frigid wedge]

if i can get my hands on a bugged chest im getting 5m mana on a chieftain

[modern zinc]

that's a lot

[somber sundial]

Chief armor stack is pretty giga

[whole bluff]

Can chieftains get % mana from fire res?

[somber sundial]

Since bugged chest works with ascendancy so fucking well

[somber sundial]

Don’t think so

[frigid wedge]

fire res to light res

from chief

and then use foulborn

[somber sundial]

OH

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but does it work?

[somber sundial]

Yes

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[whole bluff]

Cool

[frigid wedge]

u end up getting 550 mana per 1 flat

[somber sundial]

Chief has ascendancy that gives 50% of fire res to cold and lightning

[whole bluff]

I know

[burnt orchid]

Guys the cosmetic boxes for cosmetics can tecnicaly be counted as loot boxes correct?

[frigid wedge]

not really

theyre optional

[somber sundial]

Guys with bugged chest and chief are getting like 12000 over cap

[frigid wedge]

and dont improve gameplay

[normal hedge]

Yes

[somber sundial]

Fucking silly

[burnt orchid]

Oh no this is bad

[frigid wedge]

why

its a cosmetic

i just need a way to get 10k flat mana

[somber sundial]

So foulborn choir will basically birth one a build that rivals armour stacker

I hope

[burnt orchid]

My country is passing a law to force all social media, games, video and image sharing site to have id verification

[somber sundial]

Oof

[whole bluff]

EU?

[burnt orchid]

Portugal

[whole bluff]

Rip

[frigid wedge]

mfa has literally infinite dps scaling potential anyway provided u can abuse runegraft of recompense enough

but now u have 2m+ mana

[whole bluff]

Why are we spearheading bad stuff smh

[somber sundial]

Wait mfa

[frigid wedge]

yeh

[somber sundial]

I thought mana stack would be KB

KBoC

[burnt orchid]

Also if the law goes forward all these services have 90 days to comply

[frigid wedge]

the support is 1% MORE damage with supported skills per 1 mana cost

and u just get all ur flat from arcane cloak

[somber sundial]

Excuse me?

[frigid wedge]

yeah

its uncapped too

[somber sundial]

Stop

That’s cracked

Holy Kentucky

[frigid wedge]

u just get an indigon with a high cost multiplier

[somber sundial]

Awaken

[frigid wedge]

click arcane cloak, get ~500k FLAT lightning, scale the indigon cost 5000 times in one skill use, and end up with like 500k% more

or smth stupid

[whole bluff]

I wonder if dmg numbers can crash something

[frigid wedge]

its obscene

[frigid wedge]

limited to integer limit per hit

[whole bluff]

Divine Ire used to randomly heal mobs on release

[somber sundial]

Wouldn’t that dump all your mana like instantly

[frigid wedge]

ah

thats where u grab a second mfa link

with coc

and cremation

[somber sundial]

I tried Mjölnir mana stack but indigon made it just unbareable with the mana problem

[frigid wedge]

and use runegraft of recompense

[somber sundial]

[frigid wedge]

which oversustains the bonus its meant to have

so u get permanent max mana

[somber sundial]

Is it refraction or recompense

Holy

No way

[frigid wedge]

literally would scale until ur skill cost is the same as ur full pool

[somber sundial]

Wish I could play this

[frigid wedge]

and u grab mana as extra es with clarity and get 500k energy shield

:P

[somber sundial]

You’re unkillable with that

What can get through that

[brazen vector]

OH SHIT OH FUCK

[somber sundial]

I assume CI

[frigid wedge]

uh

not much

considering ur arcane cloak can take a 4m hit anyways

[brazen vector]

SHE HIT AND DONT MISS

[somber sundial]

Deep delve viable?

[frigid wedge]

ehhh

probably

if u really wanted to

idk how ur gonna recover the es tho

[somber sundial]

It hits with the force of mother of creation and is bulky like strong Russian bear

[whole bluff]

The mjölner builds are based on an equilibrium where every % of ramp on indigon juices mana costs that sustain like 70% of that ramp when fully spending. That's why you need hierophant 50% less mana cost, cuz it halves the effectiveness of ramp on indigon. Also why CwC cuz it is very reliably always same frequency at casting a half cost arc

[somber sundial]

Uh

[frigid wedge]

it HAS to be percentage based

[somber sundial]

Shouldn’t matter, everything will die

[frigid wedge]

ok but like

i wont send it to deep delve without recovery

[whole bluff]

Then you ramp indigon with arcane cloak, and sustain cloak at like 70% per 4s. Until you cloak again

[frigid wedge]

i mean

[somber sundial]

I mean it took me long after that build to figure that out

[frigid wedge]

ig technically u can just go 100%MoM...

[somber sundial]

Mjölnir without righteous providence is also aids

[whole bluff]

It's still wonky, and I didn't like it. But it's how they do it

[frigid wedge]

and hope u dont zone out long enough to run out of mana

[somber sundial]

Zone out for .2 seconds

Death

[whole bluff]

I think it's giga cool in theory, but I hate relying on arcane cloak to have any flat

[frigid wedge]

indigon cost ramps exponentially so ur not wrong

the more cost ur indigon has the more cost u get per skill use

[somber sundial]

Yeah me too, I mean Archmage provides flat too but relying on arcane cloak for the other flat you need is not epic

[frigid wedge]

upwards curve

[somber sundial]

Oh

[frigid wedge]

also u can still make it an armourstacker with like

one cluster

[somber sundial]

Perhaps

[frigid wedge]

500k flat armour

[umbral crag]

Whats a good gold strat in phrecia thats not expensive?

[frigid wedge]

and ur getting overcap mod anyway

[somber sundial]

Idk if I made a armour stacker I’d def make a meme version

Cleave of rage armour stacker

[frigid wedge]

choccy imma be real if u have a bugged chest ur gonna want a choir

[somber sundial]

I’m joking I wouldn’t do that to myself

[somber sundial]

I do not have 4 mirrors

[frigid wedge]

yeah

thats my issue too

[somber sundial]

Sadgely

[frigid wedge]

maybe matt would let me borrow his

[whole bluff]

Yeah, this stuff. Also upwards/downwards on the curve from base spend.

[somber sundial]

Maybe if I trade him my precious foils he will consider a gift

[whole bluff]

Mjolner just wants to cap indigon and leech with cyclone or something

[somber sundial]

My friend told me if I made an armour stacker like his, it would be 2-4x stronger than my Fb character

[somber sundial]

Essentially yeah

[frigid wedge]

it will

the body and dreamfeather alone get u like 100m baseline dps

[whole bluff]

Lose mana if manabond dealt more dmg that way, balance your mana pool for the situation

[somber sundial]

Mjölnir build stacks str, int, mana, and that’s about it

[frigid wedge]

ok imma head out

[somber sundial]

Peace

[whole bluff]

Cya

[frigid wedge]

choccy if u wanna discuss the chieftain thing feel free to dm me

[somber sundial]

Ok

[frigid wedge]

ill chat once im back

[somber sundial]

Righto

Idk the armor stacker project will happen in a year

I need to farm few mirrors to even start

[brazen vector]

Ill never get it right

how does one have 0% unreserved mana but have 3 mana left over? rounding error?

[short radish]

Hope y'all are having a good day

[whole bluff]

What's your base, and what's your multipliers?

Afaik as of a few years game actually tries to give you the correct, even if a sloppy rounding says 100%

[brazen vector]

I have 1001 mana as opposed to the 1144 mana from the pob I follow

[whole bluff]

What are you reserving?

[brazen vector]

Arctic Armour
Tempest Shield
Level 2 Herald of Agony
Malevolence
Level 2 Clarity

Cant fit Flesh and stone as opposed to the other PoB

[whole bluff]

So you have:

1. AA - 25% (25%)
2. TS - 25% (50%)
3. HoAg - 25% (75%)
4. Malevolence - 50% (125%)
5. Wanna add FnS - 25% (150%)
   And have flat left for clarity. But looked like an enlighten was involved

[brazen vector]

level 4

[whole bluff]

Is it on everything?

[brazen vector]

yep

if I somehow get 120 mana, it should work apparently

[whole bluff]

150% × 0.88 = 132%

So with 32% MRE you should have 0 left for clarity. Multiplying base and MRE by 1.5 gives 132%×1.5=198%, so on 198% you would reserve 2/3 of your mana. Etc

You need:

• ClarityCost × 0.88 / (MRE × TotalMana) < 150% / (100% +MRE)

I think?

Better put:

• ClarityCost × 0.88 = FlatAurasCost

• MRE × TotalMana = FlatAurasManaPool

• 150% = PercentAurasCost

• 100% + MRE = PercentAurasManaPool

• FlatAurasCost/FlatAurasManaPool + PercentAurasCost/PercentAurasManaPool <= 1

[whole bluff]

Might have made a mistake here

[brazen vector]

no clue

[whole bluff]

This is very messy, but you can at least sanity check your MRE

[brazen vector]

recrafted my wand to have 111 mana and now it works

2 mana left over

[whole bluff]

How much of that do you have?

[brazen vector]

you mean this?

[whole bluff]

Yup

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brazen vector]

I mean I could have just gotten a level 4 enlighten and made it level 5 via my chest but I am broke

[whole bluff]

But you didn't fit flesh and stone?

[brazen vector]

I did now

[whole bluff]

Got any reservation specific mana efficiency?