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[tough cove]

probably a collect keys run dungeon type league

if i could choose any mechanic though give me tota2.0

[gritty garnet]

collect sand to fill up your pockets

[tough cove]

I suspect we wont see mercs again until if it goes core

[surreal musk]

i think it will be a mechanic to juice natural mobs cause thats what reddit is crying for

affliction esque

[tough cove]

I hope not

[gritty garnet]

it's just shakira sand pit mechanisms on every zone

[dusky void]

yeah i hope they bring mercs core maybe 1 aura max and some gear limits

[tough cove]

People have got to learn that farming ground loot isnt the way to do things normally

[narrow yew]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[molten zephyr]

Are these really ur best predictions

[tough cove]

My biggest take away from keepers is most people are just ignorant on how to make currency

[molten zephyr]

Pathetic

[pseudo axle]

does anyone use trade channels anymore in-game

[tough cove]

I use some of them to buy in bulk still

And for buying challenges/runs

Since i refuse to use the discord that shalt not be named

[pseudo axle]

I want to try and sell these expensive items quicker

[molten zephyr]

Use the discord that we don't wanna talk about instead, its reliable

[molten zephyr]

Good answer

The Fabulous Train or whatever

Forgot the name

The Freaky Tourist

The Fallen Testicle

[heady cliff]

The Fabulous Theatricals

[finite quail]

i have a good prediction

[molten zephyr]

Finally someone

[finite quail]

3.28 will be about the maraketh

that is my prediction

[molten zephyr]

Good night

[finite quail]

hey

you forgot to say thank you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[molten zephyr]

For nothing

[modern zinc]

I don't get it

I only enjoy maps that are pretty much a straight line

Tropical Island, Dunes, Strand, Atoll

but Delve, which is pretty much ~line, the mechanic~

I dislike

it's probably because there are no t17 delves

'cause the maps are fun af

[spare ore]

delve ain't for the weak minded

[gritty epoch]

The Frozen Throne

[pseudo axle]

PACKED WITH ENERGY EXILE

PACKED WITH ENERGY

[gritty epoch]

Delve are for sulphite sniffers

[spice pecan]

we stan sniffing sulphite

[tranquil umbra]

Delve is for the sulphite intoxicated

[neat sail]

Yo anybody failing to join instance?

[modern zinc]

everything's fine here

[finite quail]

ctrl click the entrance

make a new instance

[raven void]

are servers down

[molten zephyr]

Yes league starts in 8 min

Login

[raven void]

ok

[molten zephyr]

[raven void]

tyt

did they put an update?

[neat sail]

Ohhh no wonder

[pseudo axle]

pog, pog, POG

[neat sail]

Was bout to throw my phone

[tranquil umbra]

what nodes do we even have here exactly

ok ig you have the suppression wheel that's pretty important

[modern zinc]

I want my build to be tanky enough to tank uber elder slam and eater of worlds slam

maybe exarch's fireballs too

[carmine notch]

99% block glad maybe?

[gritty garnet]

you don't actually get the final node on that wheel

[modern zinc]

I have 90% block with svinn

svallin

good enough righ

[gritty garnet]

I used to run that impossible escape for +proj, fork stuff and cost reduction if you need it

[carmine notch]

the difference between 99% and 90% is 10 times more hits getting through

[modern zinc]

math really is funny isn't it

[spice pecan]

f/f more than skill

to get like what, 98 effective block

[modern zinc]

people talk like f/f falls from the sky

[spice pecan]

oh no i only take damage 10% of the time versus 2% of the time

[modern zinc]

I lowkey like svallin better because I don't need to block recently to trigger it

[carmine notch]

I got my ehp to like 5 million with more than skill and azadi crest

[spice pecan]

no, you do both

[modern zinc]

WHAT

[spice pecan]

for like 98% effective block

[modern zinc]

you can get lucky twice?

[spice pecan]

or you do azadi crest

[modern zinc]

O.O

[carmine notch]

that does not work

[spice pecan]

yeah sorry i meant azadi crest + more than skill

[modern zinc]

Jesus

[final owl]

no endless munititions forbidden flames on phrecia. sadge. probably means it's 200d+ or something

[carmine notch]

I also meant azadi crest not perandus crest

[spice pecan]

but if you're a duellist then yea you can get triple lucky block w/o svalinn

[final owl]

yeah glad uses azadi right

[spice pecan]

yeah plus more than skill

to get like 98 block

[final owl]

afk ultimatum styles

[umbral crag]

Yeah issue is im doing blight so leech is out haha, just gotta do life regen and i guess dod for defence wisd

[spice pecan]

any style, it's also S tier valdo farmer

the ultimatum version is actually dogshit and specifically only runs inscribeds with ruin

[final owl]

maybe i will run a lucky block glad for 3.28

yeah the version i have seen doesn't look good for anything else

[spice pecan]

it runs a subset of a subset of content and thats it

cws glad cannot clear simus or regular ultis, idk why ppl think it can

cws paladin with more than skill f/f, on the other hand...

[final owl]

hopefuly 3.28 comes with t17 rework, which hopefully makes endgame better overall anyway, but still feel like i want a build that can actually play in t17+

[spice pecan]

trickster or juggernaut still king for t17 pushing

unless you can completely overdamage it like on some elementalist with giga investment

[final owl]

yeah idk. not outrageously excited by the idea of trickster or jugg tbh. i dunno

[haughty forum]

Will Chris attend to the Exilecon?

Any news or leaks about this so far?

I wonder who these exclusive guests might be which got mentioned in the Ultra VIP tickets...

[ember goblet]

mark

[heady cliff]

elon, obv

[finite quail]

none

[final owl]

if i spend 10d on ancient gifts will rngesus bless me

[sleek barn]

2 magebloods

[final owl]

that sounds like a nice number

[steel light]

he mistyped disappointments

[final owl]

there would definitely be more than 2 disappointments in 50 ancients. probably 50 in fact

maybe as many as 75+

[opaque sphinx]

both those bodies from yesterday sold

[steel light]

will it be better to convert ur div to better currency for keepers before pher ends?

[final owl]

depends. i cbf myself. i have some currency in keepers already and already got bored of keeprs

so i will likely do.. nussink

[cobalt blade]

poggies

[cobalt blade]

best convert is probably locks

[final owl]

i can afford zero locks in phrecia, so i'll get on that. aaaand.. done!

[cobalt blade]

depends on if they've giga inflated or not yet tho

[steel light]

what's the mirror : divs ratio on pher?

[final owl]

according to the slop factory anywhere from 500-650+

[elfin shale]

hmm

Begging for Chronomancer Bloodline actually

[opaque sphinx]

nobody doing single map gold rota

[final owl]

yeah i think phrecia is uh.. almost derd.

[opaque sphinx]

still tons doing 3-4map

[final owl]

I havent bothered to check if anyone is still running aul taxi

[opaque sphinx]

just not 1

dont check tft

just go trade 820/global 820 and ask "aul taxi?"

[final owl]

probably need carry though there is a perverse part of me that wants to find out if i have any chance on glass oshabi KF

[opaque sphinx]

depends depth

130 aul is a joke

2k aul is 2 ubers at once

[final owl]

how does aul work anyway. obviously not a portals job. you just have to kill in 1 attempt and he resets on death?

[opaque sphinx]

yeh u get 1 try

[final owl]

1 try then that aul instance is bricked or..

[opaque sphinx]

that specific fight is bricked but u can attempt again by doing the node over

[onyx adder]

u get infinite tries

it costs sulphite each time

[final owl]

right

blarg. I'm curious but lazy and he seems like so much more effort than a standard boss

i havent even touched delve in phrecia, upgrades = zero

[opaque sphinx]

run couple map with niko idol

buy resistance + flares

ur good to go

not even sure u need the resistance tbh

[dusky void]

OK WTF HOW OP IS KINETIC FUSSILADE WITH LIGHTING WARP SPELLSLINGER???

[final owl]

uh.. pretty good, but not really particularly OP?

[opaque sphinx]

its a build that exists

[final owl]

the way mine currently plays is like a slightly worse flickerstrike, with more directional control, that is better at bossing.

.. but still not amazing at it

[dusky void]

with oshabis 50% cdr you can blink 3 times per sec or which i think is one of the fastest autobomberish setups in the game

[opaque sphinx]

3 actions per sec is not remotely near the fastest

[final owl]

i mean i'm crowd surfing 135% pack size cloister maps with it, and it's fun, even if it's sad the ass has fallen out of the stacked deck price

[dusky void]

3 blinks per sec is not fast????? ok show me a setup that can get more than 3 blicks per sec

[final owl]

ooh. 155 sounds suspiciously doable

[opaque sphinx]

its not remotely fast at all

wintry blast with any amount of cast speed is more

[final owl]

I mean i have played ice nova heiro before nerf which has basically instant FBoWB

[opaque sphinx]

also ppl have literally made 0 duration lwarp before

[final owl]

spellslinger lightning warp feels kinda slow relative to that i guess

[dusky void]

wintryblast has less range aswell and with spell echo its a bit clunky feeling always

[opaque sphinx]

why the fuck would u use echo

are u masochistic

[final owl]

would that not only make sense if you're doing fbowb mines or something

which i tried one time! did i even use spell echo there? i forget

[dusky void]

without echo hitting 3 per sec is a bit hard needs high invest and frostblink has far less reach than warp so you would need 4 or 5 per sec to hit the same speed

[dusky void]

yeah i have 0sec

[opaque sphinx]

wut no it doesn't

[lucid gale]

I wonder how many delve taxi clients haven't touched delve at all for the league and have no upgrades.

[final owl]

at a guess.. most?

[opaque sphinx]

i got a ton of upgrades without delving at all just for taxi

[lucid gale]

Probably a market for delve taxi carry services to complement delve taxi services 😄

[opaque sphinx]

dummy thicc idol

nah

[final owl]

personally I have basically not touched delve since they removed the adorned jewel parts

[opaque sphinx]

u buy 10 1c idol and run 5 map with niko scarab

[lucid gale]

That's cheating 😛

[opaque sphinx]

[lucid gale]

(also smort)

[final owl]

which was a bit sad. adorned currency made delve feel like a reasonable way to make some bucks

[opaque sphinx]

ty but i def wasn't the first to think of it hahaha

it was my day 1 plan to make uber riches

"gonna be the resonator master"

then by time i sold my first batch ppl had spammed it so much that resonators were like 7 per c

soo all the pts went to upgrades instead lmao

[blissful zodiac]

LETS FUCKING GOOO NO SEKEMAHS

cause we have sanctum

[final owl]

I know people hate it but sekhemas is one of the parts of 2 I kinda like

[opaque sphinx]

its the only part of 2 i like LOL

[keen lotus]

yoooooo

[final owl]

it's so easy to make it almost trivially easy

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

[keen lotus]

any tips on scaling attack speed with energy blade?

[spare ore]

damn you were right lol

[opaque sphinx]

i hit maps on release, saw there was a bunch of tower nonsense and i was like "yeah nah" and locked myself in sekhemas

[final owl]

i know it would cause a great deal of sadness to poe1 sanctum runners, but if poe2 sekhemas were to replace it i might.. actually run it a bit.

[opaque sphinx]

stayed there till league ended and not launched poe2 since

[blissful zodiac]

you

dont

[opaque sphinx]

^

[keen lotus]

well shit

right no frost blades with multi strike feels like dogshit

now

[opaque sphinx]

are u trying to play oshabi eblade

[keen lotus]

no

[bold scarab]

how to get frenzies on a spell build that isnt a mine/trap?

[blissful zodiac]

ice bite

[opaque sphinx]

tf else goes eblade atm

[blissful zodiac]

aspect of cat

[bold scarab]

fair ig

[blissful zodiac]

what else

[keen lotus]

found some dude blasting a scavenger flicker life stacking eblade with foulborn ghostwrite to scale es

[opaque sphinx]

ik scav goes eblade but its mostly for spells

[keen lotus]

figure why the hell not. never done flicker before

[final owl]

my lifestack inquis is eblade (iirc? heh)

[blissful zodiac]

@final owl same

except

mine is ass

[opaque sphinx]

yh there's no real mechanic to stacking speed with that setup

[blissful zodiac]

and I hate spells

[keen lotus]

womp womp

[bold scarab]

to be fair you can get them from bloodrage ... the problem is because your a spell you cant leech with bloodrage ... so you just burn to death if you try to use it by itself

[opaque sphinx]

u just get as much as u can on jewels/items and frenzy charges

[keen lotus]

im still leveling so w/e

[blissful zodiac]

I wonder if I could do a attack e blade build on inquisitor

ls?

[opaque sphinx]

can yes

should

no

[keen lotus]

thanks for the tips tho

[blissful zodiac]

then what spell then

cause I dont like ice spear

[keen lotus]

oh any good twink leveling items for frost blades outside the usual?

[bold scarab]

smite eblade

[blissful zodiac]

in the slightest

[bold scarab]

kek

[opaque sphinx]

eblade is great for any spell with good DE

like pbrand

[blissful zodiac]

that requires money

[opaque sphinx]

i mean

its eblade

its not rlly cheap

[blissful zodiac]

true

need me more es jewel then

[opaque sphinx]

ur scaling ur dmg by cutting ur defenses in half

[blissful zodiac]

only have like 10k with ivory

[opaque sphinx]

which is inherently pretty expensive to not just fall over and die on

[blissful zodiac]

I wanna go ci no ivory tho

[final owl]

I didn't manage to make the inquis feel very good anyway. I wanted a bossing build. maybe if i stuck with it

[blissful zodiac]

I might go back to kb archmage

[crimson spear]

I just beat a tier 17 map for the first time to unlock the final map device slot for the first time, and man that is NOT easy.

[blissful zodiac]

@crimson spear it actually is

if u use annul scarab

and 50% scarab

[crimson spear]

I used Bisection + Stability to make it easier

[final owl]

bisection helps a lot

[opaque sphinx]

frog allflame
scarab bisection
scarab stability
huck idol
niko idol
einhar idol

[blissful zodiac]

thats what i did

[opaque sphinx]

ggz any 1d build can beat t17

[crimson spear]

Most of my deaths were from Catarina's exploding crawling skeletons.

[opaque sphinx]

with that set

[blissful zodiac]

@crimson spear oh

[final owl]

oh you chose zigg

[blissful zodiac]

shouldve done fortress

[opaque sphinx]

doesnt help u picked one of the hardest fights

if not the hardest

[crimson spear]

Multiple times I got killed within seconds of re-entering the arena

[opaque sphinx]

yeah she does that

[blissful zodiac]

next time pick fortress

[final owl]

i mean that can happen for all the T17 bosses, but fortress is by far the easiest

[crimson spear]

I picked the Tier 17 map I had

[opaque sphinx]

are u playing ssf

[crimson spear]

No

[final owl]

sell it and buy a fortress 😛

[opaque sphinx]

then why is that relevant

[crimson spear]

I just like to use the things I have

[blissful zodiac]

fair

but next time use fortress

[final owl]

thatts fine. just understand you made the job of T17 completion at least 3 times harder than it needed to be

[blissful zodiac]

less of a headache

plus yoke of suffering

[crimson spear]

Okay so I beat tier 17 CATARINA and that was not an easy fight.

[opaque sphinx]

that is a valid and true statement

[blissful zodiac]

can agree

shes straight bullshit

[opaque sphinx]

yeh if ur not giga regen build she has too much hard to avoid dmg and slaps u

[blissful zodiac]

not even block chance can save ya

[crimson spear]

That was the first time in a long time where something in PoE felt difficult due to skill, not due to grind.

For me

[opaque sphinx]

u would like sanctum

[crimson spear]

No, I'm not doing that again

[opaque sphinx]

but that was like the whole reason they made it

was to give ppl that feeling lmao

[final owl]

I'm still yet to run even a single sanctum in poe1. my poe1 sanctum experience is getting annoyed i have to zone in to drop the chalice in the sanctum thingo and get it to stop annoying me

[crimson spear]

I've tried it. The minion build I'm using has far more defense than offense so it's a terrible match up for Sanctum. I can only beat the first floor with her.

[opaque sphinx]

i mean thats a skill issue

literally every single mob in the entirely of sanctum is telegraphed avoidable dmg

[crimson spear]

When I get to level 100 and rework my build to be more offensive then I'll try it again.

[opaque sphinx]

besides the like 2 rares u might see in a zsone

[bold scarab]

skankdum is also due to grind ... you sit down for 400 hours grinding idols to then make the fight not suck

[final owl]

are sanctum idols really that bad to get a workable setup going

[heady cliff]

you need two relatively common affix idols to make sanctum reliably completable

everything else is just farm enchancement

one of the strats requiring perfect or almost perfect very rare set

[dusky void]

lol evasion stacking is cool because you can get away with 2 or 3 flask MB there is no 4th flask that would add smth to the build lol

[heady cliff]

quicksilver, you heretic

[dusky void]

i have perma lighting warp and already have 118% move speed so yeah for a MB thats twice as expensive a bit more move speed but maybe a unique flask is better or a MB with implicits

[final owl]

what build is it

[elder marlin]

Prob dreamfeather build

[final owl]

df reap oshabi?

[opaque sphinx]

mb bad synth gud

[elder marlin]

Synth mid, double influ mb gudder

[opaque sphinx]

more int more gooder

[tough oar]

did they stealth nerf kulemak scarab strat, anyone else experiencing 0 drops?

[dusky void]

how can synth be better than mb?

[opaque sphinx]

no mb

[dusky void]

whats youre ES?

and is that with flasks up?

[final owl]

makes my 7k look pretty paltry :I

[opaque sphinx]

yeah shittily rolled flasks that are always up

not even qualed

[final owl]

i am scandalised

[dusky void]

how are they perma up? because of kills thats useless against bosses

[opaque sphinx]

with no flasks

[elder marlin]

balbala

[opaque sphinx]

also no u can just use watcher eye

[final owl]

wouldn't you just do charge on crit if you care about uptime on bosses

[opaque sphinx]

with charge on crit

[dusky void]

no thats bait it has a cdr

[opaque sphinx]

no it doesnt

[final owl]

just roll it on your flasks :I

[opaque sphinx]

the flask one has cdr

the watcher one is better

[final owl]

i hadn't even noticed. i don't think i have much problem with util flask uptime regardless

[dusky void]

? wait watchers eye = perma flasks than????

[opaque sphinx]

mb it does have cdr its just 10/sec

which is like

nothing

its easy sustain

[dusky void]

10 per sec that means the average flask is used every 3sec? thats stupid whats the point of mb even

[opaque sphinx]

mb gets to enkindle

and not worry about sustain at all

its good, but like

when ur stacking int, an int stacking belt is better

[final owl]

the point of MB is being able to get 75% flask effect bonus init

[dusky void]

yeah idk will use cyclop or synth than yeah

[final owl]

cos you don't have to care about uptime

[onyx adder]

its 10 charges for one flask per second

not all flask

thats affected by charge gain etc obviously

[opaque sphinx]

yeh but with decent rolls thats p much perma uptime on utils

[onyx adder]

so u can still sustain

[dusky void]

so 2 charges for all flasks per sec

[onyx adder]

yes if ur critting 10/s

[opaque sphinx]

2.5 cuz ur using tinc

[dusky void]

with 10aps 99% crit chance 10 projs thats 99 crits per sec

[dusky void]

who needs that

[onyx adder]

as long as ur hitting things, sure

[opaque sphinx]

wat

[final owl]

obvs it works fine for KF

[onyx adder]

just bear in mind that if ur using short duration flasks they can run out during things like exarch balls

[opaque sphinx]

tincture is literally like the singlehanded best 1 item u can use on an attackin build

[dusky void]

my flasks are for evasion mainly so they dont do anything for that phase anyway

[opaque sphinx]

it can often be 50% more dmg or more

[final owl]

I kinda hate tinctures just cos of mana drain.

[opaque sphinx]

especially cuz u prob dont have a source of rage

rage tinc + ele pen suff will be literally like 50-60% more dmg for u

[dusky void]

i play a wander so doesnt matter

[opaque sphinx]

oh ew

[opaque sphinx]

its not bad w/ leech

u basically just press it for burst window

[cobalt blade]

95%

[final owl]

yeah i understand it can be managed, just in the builds i've done that theoretically like tinctures it's always been an issue

[cobalt blade]

70 from enchant 25 on flask

[opaque sphinx]

ive never had it actually be an issue

[cobalt blade]

ontop of permanent uptime for max res n shit

[opaque sphinx]

as long as u have any form of mana leech, its on when u need it

u obv cant build around having it up 100% of the time, but its a burst item its not supposed to

yeah warden exists w/e its bad we ignore it

[cobalt blade]

you can build around 100% uptime if the boss is guaranteed to die within your double damage window of tincture

[opaque sphinx]

valid

[cobalt blade]

otherwise just assume 60-70% uptime and its still an absurd flask slot lmao

[hard cliff]

Can you make a good slam build where you focus on war cry recovery cool down to try to push the attack speed heavier while keeping exerted up?

in regular ascendancy

[opaque sphinx]

bro out here playing guitar hero instead of just pianoman

[dusky void]

ah but no for my setup a 2 or 3 flask mb with int implicit is probably better i need the shock and stun avoid from flasks or else i will be perma stunned and frozen

[cobalt blade]

you could do full warcry cdr tattoos

[opaque sphinx]

aul gang

[cobalt blade]

what be your build

[opaque sphinx]

intvasion oshabi wander

[final owl]

can't you solve ailments pretty easily without aul anyway

[atomic oracle]

MAKE BREACH GREAT AGAIN!

[dusky void]

fussilade evasion int stack

[hard cliff]

Is that efficient? Can you like Auto exert like five war cries then keep one manual to keep up more exert and then just throw down a bunch of banners when you get to the boss? It's only like four extra buttons

[cobalt blade]

ye arctic armour for freeze boots for chill shock avoid abyss jewels

and alt ailments arent real

[hard cliff]

that sounds very expense

[cobalt blade]

also aul enjoyer though fuck action speed

[cobalt blade]

Oshabi?

[opaque sphinx]

ngl prob not

[final owl]

i mean i am just using ailment / shock boots and i think ailment on shield and that's it, stormshroud you good

[opaque sphinx]

u prob could with enough invest but itd be hard

early on with slams a lot of ur dam is from bleed/ignit

[split maple]

https://pobb.in/otTWQ6O6U4nM

Tho it's a funny pob

[dusky void]

yeah ofc

[hard cliff]

I bet the atlas tree for breach will let us pick which mechanic we can focus on

[cobalt blade]

mageblood is def your bis at 4 flask then

[final owl]

it better let us almost completely block the defense breaches

[opaque sphinx]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/LocoCocoa-1921/character/GettinPhreciWithIt

was as far as we got last night with the new budget clusters

[cobalt blade]

Jade/stibnite/res/a flask for max res into melding or silver flask if you dont care for 90 max res

Res lets you drop all resistance suffixes on gear = more int

[opaque sphinx]

idk why ninja has wrong values

for es and shit

[hard cliff]

forbidden rite Berserker I don't even have to knows more

it's either gonna be trash or clear all dps checks no in between

[split maple]

It's pure trash

[hard cliff]

[split maple]

But I think it uses all sources of cdr for warcries ingame rn

[atomic oracle]

I wouldnt mind having the walls etc on a scarab or smth for the ppl that like new breaches(if there even are any). But from all my friends that play poe1, not a single one enjoyed the new breach.

[hard cliff]

that's awesome

[atomic oracle]

i somehow doubt that they will return breachstones 😭

[dusky void]

thats not looking to bad

[cobalt blade]

pog

[hard cliff]

I agree with the exception that everyone I've seen bring it up still liked stabilize breach me includes

[final owl]

phrecia 2 is really making me wish i could stack idols for old breach :/ it would be the perfect map blasting farm

[atomic oracle]

the stabilize breach was uhmm.... tolerable

[cobalt blade]

stabilize breach is kinda just old breach but with less mobs

[split maple]

Everything I want from breach in 3.28 is graspings per hour and not per month

[cobalt blade]

i want them to add the rings back to deli

[atomic oracle]

Johnny just wants to dip his pinky in everything

[atomic oracle]

aye, running breachstones was one of my fav things to do, great exp, great gamba at the end

[final owl]

currently i feel like if i never have to run a fortress again i'm cool with it

just release the entire 24 waves non-stop in 1/4 of the time plx

[cobalt blade]

all 24 instantly

Would be way funner

[final owl]

it would

[atomic oracle]

and make it that u dont have to defend anything

[final owl]

wtf is even the point of protecting her

she just gonna be replaced anyway

[atomic oracle]

ikr, chalupa will just print another1

[final owl]

can they just not take nice breezy kill the mans mechanics and go "hmm, what if we made this tedious and annoying instead?". I mean really. there were a lot of ways breach could be improved without.. that.

admittedly doing fortress on flicker is a big part of what burned my grits about it

[split maple]

Heh

[atomic oracle]

old breach was hands down my fav mechanic in the game, instead they couldve nuked sanctum or smth

[opaque sphinx]

fuck the maraketh dude give me synth back holy

i wish for the love of god just once instead of making a new league they look at all the shit they broke over the years and fix it instead

[final owl]

it'd be cool if they did a "usability" pass on skills and supports

[atomic oracle]

delve 2.0 ❤️

[final owl]

and made all the stuff that is currently essentially unusable at least.. ok

[atomic oracle]

let me snort that sulfurius

[final owl]

I mean at least a delve 2.0 would hopefully mean they're sticking some attractive loot in it again

[atomic oracle]

delva kinda blows rn cuz u get basically 0 gold

u need it for settlers passive income, trading, recombs, and u cant do any of that if ur delving cuz ur getting 3.50 and a chewing gum

[opaque sphinx]

right? like imagine if instead of a new mechanic thats gonna have its own issues and need to be fixed again
we perhaps maybe
fix synth/delve/abyss/exiles/settlers?

[final owl]

they could shoehorn poe2 abyss into 1 and i'd be ok with it

[atomic oracle]

that would be a start for sure

[opaque sphinx]

i get they tried to do that with breach but like wtf man of all the things

literally nobody complained about old breach

[atomic oracle]

not a poe2 fan but abyss is alright

[final owl]

they just made it outrageously worse than it was, in a way where it seems screamingly obvious to me at least, that it would make it outrageously worse

who in their right mind looks at breach and goes "but what if we made it heaps more annoying?"

[opaque sphinx]

yeh they took the one "go fast and fuckin murder everything" mechanic and made it slow and clunky

because reasons

[thick goblet]

yeah that's my biggest hope too, just numerically buff all the dogshit

[cobalt blade]

surely you wanna play a worse version of blight instead of your kill fast mechanic

[opaque sphinx]

frfr

[final owl]

ugh. i mean at least with blight you have ways to speed it up if you decide you want to do it

[opaque sphinx]

blight is the one and only mechanic i genuinely wanna slow down sometimes

[final owl]

but no, modern breach can't just.. summon hundreds of enemies from the breach just like that? what do you think this is, a portal into a realm with a literally endless supply of enemies or something? no no, we have to get them to line up in groups of 20 or so and let them through slowly

[stuck phoenix]

I kinda like new breach
But I don't really feel like it needed to replace old breach

[strong totem]

You know what blight needs? Vehicles for the players

[stuck phoenix]

Elaborate

[strong totem]

I wanna sit in a blight cannon and fire lasers from safety

[opaque sphinx]

literally all i picture is the orc army tryna go thru the dark portal to azeroth except it's a regular sized door

[stuck phoenix]

Lol

[split maple]

Auto upgrade function for tower

[atomic oracle]

1 thing should happen for sure, they need to stop adding crap like merc items/new breach tree items to the game, printing 4-5x t1 mod items in white maps is just stupid, been happening for the past 4 leagues, makes everything else obsolete(fossils, essences, etc)

[split maple]

Or at least make ssf able to pause when upgrading towers and not only trade

Feels icky trade has advantage there

[final owl]

sorry, scuse me. oh no, you first. Sorry. oops was that your toes. my bad

[cobalt blade]

[stuck phoenix]

Solution: trade window no longer pause

[opaque sphinx]

"single file, everyone"

[cobalt blade]

i would actually like that i can check trades well doing sim or w/e now

something pure brain off

[stuck phoenix]

You can turn off pause

But that also includes latency auto pause

[opaque sphinx]

dont even have gold to buy a gold idol set

[final owl]

"yes I know it would make more sense for us to all attack at once, rather than sending a slow stream of enemies into a blender, it is like, our whole thing. but whatt do you want me to do. make the door bigger? what do i look like? a carpenter?"

[opaque sphinx]

wait

can i even buy a map

[cobalt blade]

no

[stuck phoenix]

Just run a map smh

[opaque sphinx]

bruh

[opaque sphinx]

ew i gotta go on not dunes?

[final owl]

someone forgot to sock away an emergency dune

[potent bramble]

Honestly I'm not sure what I would want for a way to make Blight better... I do agree that a way to set towers to auto-upgrade would be nice, but then there would be a question of how it handles priority. Would it be in sequential order? Cheapest first? Does it need to stop at T3 so that you can choose which T4 you want, or do you set the T4 and it auto-upgrades to that?

[split maple]

Has to be locked at t3

Otherwise no one will use

[cobalt blade]

let you set every tower to auto build into what you want

[opaque sphinx]

fuck auto set?

[final owl]

lol automated tower upgrading. people want truly AFK blight farming hey

[opaque sphinx]

literally just give me a pause

[cobalt blade]

ex t3 empowering towers

no other towers exist

[opaque sphinx]

and let me move screen away from my char

[split maple]

I want not to panickly run around like a chicken

Upgrading empowers

[opaque sphinx]

if the game is paused there should be no reason i can't scroll to the right and place some towers

[final owl]

isn't that like.. really the only actual gameplay mechanic in blight?

[potent bramble]

True, a way to pause the game and pan the camera would also be a valid solution for sure

[cobalt blade]

i want to not have my game lag trying to run to a tower spot click it 5 times with 5 fps and not have the menu show up and then lose out on a massive amount of juice especially when pausing decided to just not work from trade menu

[final owl]

don't get me wrong, i kinda hate it sometimes. but blight already kinda almost plays itself

[opaque sphinx]

yeah that was the best

fps too low that game doesnt pause when u open market

and rip map

[cobalt blade]

YEP

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

Although i could usually recover it if it wasnt really close portal lmao

Took 2-3 deaths in a row to actually fail

[potent bramble]

Like Naca said, it's more of a performance thing than a QOL thing, b/c not everyone has a quality computer

[opaque sphinx]

was possible but by that point everything had moved away from invigo circle and i was just pissed and would leave

"if i cant have all the juice i dont want none of it"

[final owl]

well thats fair I guess, blight is maybe a poor choice of mechanic if that is the case though..

[cobalt blade]

Yee that do happen soemtimes but usually worth clearing still

[cobalt blade]

i mean its fine until a proxy shield spawns

and you have no real control over that

[opaque sphinx]

^^^^

[split maple]

I am pretty sure invigo blight doesn't pretty much Play itself no matter the computer 😄

Like we aint talking ravaged there i think

[cobalt blade]

and they really like to spawn with 1-2x legends

[opaque sphinx]

its actual ass that u need 500k ehp or to play a specific skill just to have blight playable

[cobalt blade]

invig is less laggy than ravaged in my experience

ravaged you have the oils for 70% faster or w/e

So your game shits itself faaast

[split maple]

Yea but ravaged towers solo

[potent bramble]

I kinda feel like most mechanics get to a point where the performance is a bigger threat than the mobs though. Legion, Harb, less so Breach now, but even Abyss can be tough on my frames sometimes

[final owl]

i mean i am busy reducing my FPS to 0 in maps in phrecia to be fair, but it's not blight that is at fault

[opaque sphinx]

every other mech doesnt have same issue, yes some builds are better but everything can do them

[umbral crag]

U just need explode

[cobalt blade]

ah i dont think ive ever done an actual blight map with towers

[potent bramble]

Not that they will, but they can

[cobalt blade]

Always just brute forced with dps

[opaque sphinx]

how does explode bypass

[split maple]

I don't think I ever did ravaged map after I had DPS

[cobalt blade]

explode doesnt bypass a bad proxy shield

[cobalt blade]

based

I was just curious on the profit margins

at some point

it was kinda absurd honestly lol

[opaque sphinx]

mob either explodes outside shield and doesnt hurt anything inside it
or mob is inside shield and doesnt take dmg to explode

i dont see how

[split maple]

Explode + ignite prolif :p

[umbral crag]

Fair, but ive never had issues with uber juiced invig blight on herald stacker explode

[split maple]

But doesn't work on them chonky legend mobs ofc

[umbral crag]

And i definitrly have low ehp

[cobalt blade]

a mob has to explode proxy shield mob walks over it right as that happens mob explodes in shield :D

[cobalt blade]

are you doing bloodlines or titanic

[umbral crag]

Well bloodlines

[cobalt blade]

titanic is infinitely harder and what i personally rank it on

[opaque sphinx]

yeh this titanic

[cobalt blade]

ah

[umbral crag]

Sre we talking titanic oops

[opaque sphinx]

i dont have experience with bloodline

[umbral crag]

Icic

[cobalt blade]

its trivial

Its just alot of blue mobs and they dont really do anything

[umbral crag]

Titanic is much harder but your profits are shiet anyway compared to bloodlines

[cobalt blade]

and you get less proxy shields

Ay its dumb

[opaque sphinx]

i thought titanic was supposed to be more profit

[cobalt blade]

titanic is more fun though

[umbral crag]

No

Bloodline is more

[cobalt blade]

Its less currently after all the nerfs

[umbral crag]

This league at least

[split maple]

Bloodlines farm is rly chill this league

[opaque sphinx]

or is that only with good rng?

oh

whack

[cobalt blade]

the one thing you do get with titanic is more uniques

But magic prints out like 5x more scarabs

[umbral crag]

Yeah thats pretty much it

[opaque sphinx]

maybe next league i finally try some ignite prolif build

[umbral crag]

Do some blight of contagion prolif duh

[cobalt blade]

horror

[opaque sphinx]

never really played an explodey build besides BV

[umbral crag]

Kekw

[umbral crag]

Herald stacker is comfy this league at least

[opaque sphinx]

this league is over for me

i might do like 1-2 day more on phrecia but idk

keepers i cant make myself log in, the last 5 upgrades are like 200d+ ea

[umbral crag]

Yee

[cobalt blade]

i think the most efficient bloodlines blight build this league is prolly an ele double foulborn ring play pbod hat

[final owl]

i'm kinda running out of phrecia steam myself. i kinda want aul bloodline but that's really.. just for the sake of doing it one time. I don't have any plans or goals related to any of it

[umbral crag]

Kekw

[cobalt blade]

you can still do decent damage to the odd unique that shows up and explodey

[umbral crag]

I gave up and just mucking around on a blight build now for funs

[opaque sphinx]

yeh i wanna play sm kinda chain like dbl foul berek

[cobalt blade]

the cheap upgrades

[umbral crag]

I miss that chaos prolif fun

[opaque sphinx]

honestly that was a low guess

i need the grafts which can be 200d-2mir depending

and pof sublime

[final owl]

i could improve my keepers flicker or lifestack inquis but idk. once you get a map blaster to a certain point there doesn't feel like a lot of reason to keep pushing it

[opaque sphinx]

dbl corrupted claw etc

just the literal minmaxes

[umbral crag]

Theres no real difficulty to building a map blaster anyways

[cobalt blade]

sublime should be sitting at a mirror by now in keepers

[umbral crag]

You kinda hit a cap on how fast u blasting eventually

[cobalt blade]

and im guessing melee dmg per int grafts with either %int or strike skills ?

at that price

[opaque sphinx]

yeh but then i looked at it and honestly not sure i even wanna go sublime cuz then its a ton of swapping

yeh

[cobalt blade]

[final owl]

yeah. the lifestack inquis supposed to be a bosser in theory but needs a lot more for the damage to be there

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

i would say its only worth it if your doing valdos

otherwise the pen immunity +90 max isnt that much better than running flesh and stone

[opaque sphinx]

fair

yeh im using flesh and stone + clarity watcher atm on the setup

[cobalt blade]

you dont really get penned in normal content for specific damage types and generic ele pen still hurts with sublime

yea

[umbral crag]

How many b is ur pob rn? 2?

[opaque sphinx]

think we got it to 2.5

[potent bramble]

One of these days I'll do some sort of SSF/pseudo-SSF attempt for a league. Pseudo-SSF being that I'll use the currency exchange but not item trading, really just to try and cut down on how much time I have to actively grind

[opaque sphinx]

before i called it

[cobalt blade]

2.5b on wut skill

[opaque sphinx]

mamba

[umbral crag]

Mamba

[cobalt blade]

ah nb

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/xuUfWdJgudLf

[cobalt blade]

ah ye the 4x damage from doryanis right

[opaque sphinx]

mhmm

[potent bramble]

Jugg with CI feels like the most cursed combination imaginable

[cobalt blade]

but it feels so good

[umbral crag]

Its just whatever works

[potent bramble]

I don't doubt that it works

[umbral crag]

Just typical poe things kek

[eternal hill]

Zerker dark pact spell caster

[opaque sphinx]

the core so good i played it again in phrecia on oshabi https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/LocoCocoa-1921/character/GettinPhreciWithIt

playing pretty much same build just built completely different

and i love it

[potent bramble]

It just sounds cursed. "Lets take the class who's main schtick is having a high health pool and being tanky, and then forcibly reduce it's life to a single HP"

[cobalt blade]

same but aristocrat
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Nacasatú-2245/NacaMarauderKeepers?timemachine=week-12
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia2.0/character/Nacasatú-2245/NacaAristocatW

[eternal hill]

Nothing in jugg gives life

[cobalt blade]

(have to go to week 12 since i templed the mageblood and it poofed and that caused to char to stop getting tracked)

[opaque sphinx]

lmfao

[umbral crag]

Im just mucking around in phrecia so no op character

Trying and failing to get blight contagion to be good

[opaque sphinx]

i wouldnt call this char OP yet, just good

[potent bramble]

Wot. I mean I know I don't play in that corner of the tree that often, but still. You mean to tell me that a class named after the embodiment of "Big and beefy" doesn't get boosts to base health?

[opaque sphinx]

then again, it has like 30-40m dps, great tankiness and all the QoL at once

[cobalt blade]

low key the more cursed thing is that its evasion based juggs

[umbral crag]

Here i am sitting with 3m on blight

Sadge

[cobalt blade]

holy

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but thats blight tho

[tranquil umbra]

that's a dot

that spreads to every mob

[opaque sphinx]

can u even get blight above like 10m without spending a mir

[umbral crag]

Well i havent played much to see

[cobalt blade]

but actually this max hits are a good showcase of why pofsublime isnt that much better outside of content with pen

[umbral crag]

Im sure you probably can

[cobalt blade]

losing clarity watchers and disc heavily lowers your es

[opaque sphinx]

yeh and alrdy mostly immune to pen

80% of cold taken as fire/chaos
100% of light taken as cold/fire/chaos
30%of fire taken as cold/chaos

[cobalt blade]

yeah on your setup its even less important

main thing would be dots

[hard cliff]

be safe

ok

[cobalt blade]

wuh

[opaque sphinx]

yeah dots are painge

and degen

[cobalt blade]

yee and kinda mitigated by just always leeching

[opaque sphinx]

idk how u would ever realistically get regen onto the build tho without being in std and adding armour stack+mastery

[cobalt blade]

oh youd just go 2 rings instead of 3 mageblood flask regen

i considered it myself for the 1 point for zo

[opaque sphinx]

hm

true

[cobalt blade]

theres also 2% regen mastery

over 100% inc from hat

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/izutsumi-dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-good-morning-good-morning-images-gif-11288561332724403597

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but i mean like decent regen

[cobalt blade]

am be confuse

[opaque sphinx]

in the 3k+ range

[hard cliff]

me too

[cobalt blade]

fair

[opaque sphinx]

oshabi can technically do it

so maybe normal jugg and not doryani can at enough int

[cobalt blade]

normal jugg for sure

[opaque sphinx]

im at 1k regen atm

[cobalt blade]

i can get to like 8 maybe 9% regen which is like 2k at 24k es

[opaque sphinx]

on the oshabi

technically

[cobalt blade]

on my jugg setup

[opaque sphinx]

thats solid

[cobalt blade]

ya

[opaque sphinx]

i guess im just aiming after armour stack tbh

[cobalt blade]

the othe route that i personally prefer over regen tho

[opaque sphinx]

if i want everything all at once

[cobalt blade]

5% of es over 1 second on phys dmg taken

and get a ring with phys to all attacks taken

[opaque sphinx]

true that node is nutty

[cobalt blade]

you have now gained immortality ™

quick 3 pointer for delving or w/e

[opaque sphinx]

thats a 5head tech

im stealing it

[cobalt blade]

lmao

back when chayula was in feared btw this node straight up made you immortal to anything but 1 shots if you could keep chayula alive for valdos

it was a lil bit silly

[grizzled lily]

highgate league LOGIN

higate

when will they make a league all about actual dungeons, but in the sense of “the den” or grotto map

j love killing those big ass bears

[dense rock]

Granted: All zones replaced with phantasmagoria.

[opaque sphinx]

whats a cheap basic gold idol set

ores?

[odd fox]

please for the love of god replace PoE 1 Sanctum with Trial of Sekhemas, I don't wanna go through Sanctum again for a stupid bloodline, shit is ass.

[opaque sphinx]

whats even the difference

[odd fox]

more honor

vastly more survivibility

[opaque sphinx]

wut

do u have no relic

[odd fox]

why would I buy relics just to do the gamemode once

[opaque sphinx]

because they cost 1c and make it infinitely easier

?

and the gamemode is built on having them?

skehemas with no relics is also garbage btw

[odd fox]

also you need to complete the rooms to unlock for relic slots

[opaque sphinx]

ur just as squishy

[odd fox]

have you tried both?

[opaque sphinx]

yes

sekhemeas was literally the only thing i did in poe2

and i have farmed sanctum on multiple leagues

[odd fox]

then you should know

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i didn't notice a dif

both were ass till u got relics

then they were easy

[odd fox]

you only used 1c relics on limited default slots(slots you get without playing it even once)?

[opaque sphinx]

yes ?

early on u buy defensive 1c relics

as u get money and power u s wap them

for merchant shit

so u have speed instead of easy

[odd fox]

why would I swap if I intend to touch the gamemode once?

[opaque sphinx]

if ur goal is to just complete it instead of farm it then obviously u don't do that 😄

[odd fox]

you need to complete it to get the bloodline

[opaque sphinx]

...

duh?

[odd fox]

and u did that on a melee ranged character?

[opaque sphinx]

im lost what ur point is

[trim gull]

Pay someone to carry you

[dense rock]

wtf is a melee ranged character? 😄

[opaque sphinx]

sanctum is not hard to do with 10c of relics on any character

[odd fox]

character with melee range

[opaque sphinx]

i literally farmed sanctum with an elehit qotf build

that required u to stand on the mob

because it had negative range

anyway its moot, buying some cheap relics woulda taken half as long as you've been in chat here and solved ur issue for 10-20c

if for whatever reason u still cant do it with defensive relics, u can always buy a carry. they are like 2-3d

[tranquil sedge]

the neat thing is its okay if you don't like one part of the game, especially if you only intend to do it as a one-off

and yea if you think spending a bit of chaos on some cheap relics is a bad idea idk what to tell you
you have a problem, you have a solution, you don't want to use solution, question mark

[split maple]

i doubt gain inspiration on floor is pricier than few alchs

and makes runs rly free

like ignore fireball corridors kinda free

[tranquil sedge]

i mean get whatever its not going to be some expensive thing is the point

[cobalt blade]

buy 5-10c of relics resell for 5-10c to someone else doing the same thing

like if you wanna make sanctum trivial it comes at no effective cost

[tranquil sedge]

he doesn't want a solution to his problems lol he just wants to be spoonfed

ain't new

[cobalt blade]

lol ye

[cobalt blade]

also yes multiple times in fact both scuffed low damage melee and high damage

very skill based mechanic lol

[tranquil sedge]

i looked him up in tft
why am i not surprised

thats his entire message history

[split maple]

I Got enough of skill issue that if I ever want to get bloodline on melee char I am crafting a shitty 6l helmet and somehow getting two clusters

[cobalt blade]

understandable

[split maple]

What the fuck kinda build needs oshabi carry tho

[cobalt blade]

only thing i can think of is a crafters beast farmer

[steel light]

i bought eul & tul carry before, twice

[split maple]

Okay breachlords can be annoying if you have like 3k Max hit

On the other hand oshabi

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno but even disregarding that for a moment, the point was that it paints one heck of a picture about said person complaining about sanctum
went from 'i find sanctum difficult' to 'i dont want any difficulty in my game'

[split maple]

That's like outta campaign White mob level of boss

[cobalt blade]

breachlords if your not chaos res capped is honestly fair

they do a fair bit of chaos

[tranquil sedge]

i love my maven and uber elder carry every leaguestart

nobody will ever pry that away from me

[mint kestrel]

I fought Oshabi for the first time with shit gear and no dmg this phrecia, which is how I found out the fight has phases

[brazen vector]

You can sidestep everything though

[cobalt blade]

yeah but that requires learning their mechanics D:

[tranquil sedge]

also this new poe1 teaser thing

does it have any resemblance to that arbiter attack in poe2 you reckon

[cobalt blade]

i still dunno what they actually do kinda just face tanked them all 3 times fighting them

[tranquil sedge]

the one where he slows down time or whatever

[brazen vector]

What mechanics

Killed them 150 times in phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

l0l

[split maple]

thats sekhema not arbiter

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[split maple]

but hourglass is straight outta sekhema timer room

[tranquil sedge]

right i conflated those

okay now i get the ppl on reddit talking about sekhema

[mint kestrel]

Yea Zarokh (?) also has a sands of time voiceline iirc

[split maple]

but also

[tranquil sedge]

aye i mixed him up with arbiter

[brazen vector]

Ggg confirmed we wkmt get sekhe.ss

[tranquil sedge]

ayyyy

[brazen vector]

Yea

[split maple]

we will get fekhemas

totally same just different

[cobalt blade]

technically reworking sanctum to have all the mechanics of sekhemas but still calling it sanctum isnt adding it

[brazen vector]

We get virkinhemas

[split maple]

as long as there is 2div avg run and not a buncha rare jewels like in sekhemas i am happybara

[tranquil sedge]

what are the biggest differences between sanctum and sekhema?

[split maple]

current 1div run aint cutting it

[cobalt blade]

loot

[tranquil sedge]

like mechanic wise not loot wise

smh naca

[cobalt blade]

D:

[steel light]

next league will be the first league i have enough experience to know what i'm doing, let's see if my current atlas tree and build carries over

[split maple]

sekhemas need some clear

and not only single target

[tranquil sedge]

heck yea

[cobalt blade]

biggest difference is prolly the traps and room types then

[tranquil sedge]

i know what im doing but im still gonna buy my carries

[odd fox]

osabi carry was a few hours of playtime after the t17 carry

[tranquil sedge]

i rather invest in build than in skill to do those bosses

[steel light]

and 3.28 turns out to be worse than keepers and i stay in standard

[cobalt blade]

the poe2 ones are more designed around you having dodge roll and some room types are bigger than 1's afaik

[tranquil sedge]

dodge roll is just worse movement skill so u mean more mobility basically

i do remember rolling around a lot on the first floor boss

ngl i enjoyed that boss fight

..once.

[cobalt blade]

ay but i feel like CD might fuck you over on move skills in 2's

like if your using poe1 move skills in them

[brazen vector]

Good thing we wont get sekhemas

[odd fox]

those relics costed divines 2 months into the league

[split maple]

which relics prince

[opaque sphinx]

wat

[odd fox]

defensive relics

[split maple]

since you rly dont need full on merchant strat lol

inspiration on floor entry is enough

[tranquil sedge]

what mods exactly did you look for

[cobalt blade]

yknow fair enough i guess

i was not expecting a shit roll to be a div

[split maple]

lol thats a racket

[odd fox]

you think I didn't think of buying relics before paying 5 divs for the bloodlines?

[cobalt blade]

but smth like these are still good enough imo to brute force sanctum

[odd fox]

i was getting one shot by skull lasers

[tranquil sedge]

resolve on boss kill would work too i assume

[cobalt blade]

im ngl i didnt know those dealt actual noticeable health damage

[split maple]

why the fuck did you get hit by skull lasers

[cobalt blade]

since they dont really kill you right away resolve wise

[odd fox]

because I had to stand still to cast shit

[brazen vector]

Stutterstep

[split maple]

like we talking there the skull that rotates with beam of fire room, not lasers right?

[heady cliff]

for guaranteed sanctums you need two large relics with max resolve% + max resolve when you kill a boss

you could drop max resolve% if you want

[odd fox]

rotating skulls

[cobalt blade]

imo just resolve on kill is enough to guarantee it

[heady cliff]

this way you could farm pacts on floor 1 and 2

[split maple]

do you kinda have seconds per cast or smh

[cobalt blade]

its not like their trying to farm for divs just get bloodline

[heady cliff]

and recover for floors 3 and 4 with plenty of buffs

[cobalt blade]

so you dont have to take risky shit

[dense rock]

"Dont stand in fire" too hard of a concept to grasp? 😛

[tranquil sedge]

^ max resolve on fountain use, %inc max resolve, gain* resolve on boss kill, armor applies to resolve
quite a few options for relics i think

[odd fox]

no, if I dont cast I dont attack

[dense rock]

You do even less when you are dead and/or fail the run 😛

[cobalt blade]

lets say you have a reasonable .2-.25 second cast/attack time you can stutterstep by attacking and then moving for a half a second to dodge

and repeat

[brazen vector]

Stutter stepping is a valid strat, yea

[cobalt blade]

you dont get hit by the rotating skull anymore

[heady cliff]

done

those two and you have your sanctum done

[cobalt blade]

yuup

[umbral crag]

The skulls doesnt exactly rotate very fast, surely there isnt anything that locks you in spot for 10seconds for the duration of the cast...?

[split maple]

i rly want to see prince's build now

[odd fox]

its hroc

[heady cliff]

probably the same issue as with sirus

people stand far away from him and complain about death beams

[umbral crag]

Okay, you didnt have to stand like a statue to lock urself in place as the skull flames approaches u

Just gotta open ur eyes and be careful

[heady cliff]

other people hug him and do not understand what death beams even do

[split maple]

can you even stand too far away from skulls

like rooms are small

[cobalt blade]

doesnt hroc get pretty good attack speed from severed in sleep

[cobalt blade]

just stand in beams and take 80% inc damage smh my head

[split maple]

honorable exception being floor4 find the exit but there you should be moving fast enough to not even notice the skulls

[odd fox]

attack speed isnt the problem, the moment you release the button, you stop dealing dmg

[umbral crag]

Thats almost every build wdym

[cobalt blade]

yes and you stutter step which means higher attack speed lets you dodge faster

[split maple]

you have to release the button for split second to frostblink to opposite end of room

[cobalt blade]

you dont just stand still and hold

[split maple]

like lossing dmg output to move a few cm is such a made up issue

[odd fox]

yes I could dodge but its clunky to dodge in poe1, way easier in poe2

[umbral crag]

Your character isnt an immovable totem. You see flames approach, you dodge and reposition and then attack again

Thats just u need to practice

[tranquil sedge]

your dodgeroll in poe2 is literally just a worse instant movement skill from poe1

[cobalt blade]

well yeah but thats just a part of the game and id argue its easier in 1 with move speed

[heady cliff]

224 max resolve after killing floor 2 bosses, at that point fountains heal you for absolutely unethical amount

[tranquil sedge]

are you sure it wasn't dodging but lacking wsad?

(if you used wsad?)

[odd fox]

might be

[cobalt blade]

lacking attacking while moving

prolly

[cobalt blade]

ay its very dumb how trivial it makes it lmao

[odd fox]

also im hella unlucky with the afflictions

[tranquil sedge]

its almost definitely not movement skills coz you can instant frostblink/flamedash which is just better than the animation on dodgeroll

probably just need more practice w/ mouse

whats ur keybinds like

[split maple]

thats called being bad by pathing

[brazen vector]

How does one not deal damage when flame dash is instant

[split maple]

you are maybe forced to take a bad one once per what 10 tomes

[cobalt blade]

for flame dash tbf they could be spamming the button you get into the actual casted flame dash

and then you lose .2-.3 seconds of damage

[odd fox]

i use default poe1 keybinds

[cobalt blade]

(why i prefer frostblink)

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-shocked-pretends-to-be-shocked-omg-wow-gif-5194187393645250946

[tranquil sedge]

ive got flamedash/frostblink on rmb and move on both lmb and spacebar, and main skill on W

i've found that works best for me, i mainly move by just pointing mouse and holding spacebar now, and i can tap W to attack as needed

experiment a bit if ur having issue with moving and attacking

[cobalt blade]

personally do move skill on mb5(forward button)^ and secondary move skill on T

[umbral crag]

To be fair if you are doing sanctum for the first time you dont sometimes realise how to play around some of the affliction.

Some can be nasty if you dunno what you're doing, even if it is simple for other experienced sanctum runners

[tranquil sedge]

main thing that it does for me is that mouse becomes mainly a pointing device and a panic button for RMB movement skill

i find it easier to move the mouse around when im not focused on holding down left mouse button to also move

[brazen vector]

I have movement on space bar and w

[umbral crag]

I just bind the movement skill to a button on my mouse, so sometimes i only play with mouse and no keyboard

All preference really

[brazen vector]

Yea

[odd fox]

sure but I personally found Trials of Shekma better along with 90% of us normies

[cobalt blade]

eeeeh

hasnt the general consensus been sanctums easier

[tranquil sedge]

only consensus i know is most players don't actually enjoy that particular mechanic in either game

which again is fine

[cobalt blade]

i guess with literally nothing sekhemas might be though

[brazen vector]

Idk never played sanctum but was forced into sekhrmas

[cobalt blade]

for me sekhemas felt trivial

but lotta sanctum time

[cobalt blade]

it do be a weird thing to force

[odd fox]

i can just facetank shekma with 0 relics

[heady cliff]

a skill issue sensing i in the force

[split maple]

sekhemas have movement speed relics tho

i kinda wish we get that if they touch sanctum

[tranquil sedge]

are we gonna get loot buffs to compensate for the nerfs tho

[gentle chasm]

isnt 1 quicksilver worth more than a page of relics

[split maple]

yea but you can have both

page of relics, enkindled quicksilver and silver, some nice ms+ms if not hit recently booties mmm

[cobalt blade]

you forgot tailwind

smh my head

[tranquil sedge]

if there's more mods in the relic pool that are desirable thats also a good thing for relic prices

other mods will become cheaper too

so i agree with that

[odd fox]

it is skill issue, but do you know what happens to "skill issue" gamemodes? devs ignore the gamemode and the gamemode dies

[cobalt blade]

shieeeet guess they ignoring all of poe

[gentle chasm]

the devs tried really hard to kill off that mode

[split maple]

idk Prince i would try a sancutm start next league if i was you

[gentle chasm]

and it still prints money

[split maple]

just to be forced to learn it

[tranquil sedge]

brother lets be honest majority of people do not enjoy sanctum or sekhema in either game

the people who do get good at it

[odd fox]

90% of poe1 can be facetanked blindfolded

[tranquil sedge]

the people who don't ignore it

[tranquil sedge]

you do realize what you just said here is a reason to keep sanctum the way it is

and not the other way around?

like ur right there actually aren't that many real skill checks in this game

[cobalt blade]

they should add more hard strats

[tranquil sedge]

so having a few things that actually take some skill and effort is good