1┃general

[tranquil sedge]

half the reason everyone should be farming in t17s is uber frags lol

like if u go from 8mod t16/t16.5 -> t17 for a mechanic that likes scarabs or quant or pack size

guess what ur also probably making 30-50% more div/hr if u run zigg or abom just from uber boss frags

[fossil mural]

and with the nerfs to quant scaling on frag drops you dont even need to juice KEKW

[tranquil sedge]

if u nerf uber frag reward value

you nerf t17s

broad, vague example - if harvest is printing 15d/hr say in 8mod t16s or t16.5s
its probably 20+ in t17s easily

but then add another 10d/hr or even more just from uber frags

[bronze falcon]

Right so what's the point of the atlas other than another inefficient treadmill? It's campaign 2.0 just to get to the real end game, T16.5. T17 and ubers.

[tranquil sedge]

as if the same wasn't true before t17s were added lol

whats the point of t1-t15?

when u should just run t16

or if t17 gets deleted tomorrow

same question with t16.5

why aren't you running those instead

why do t1-t16 exist

[bronze falcon]

At least when you finish the atlas you can play any map at T16

Is it not odd that the entire games mapping system boils down to what, 5 maps?

[tranquil sedge]

that doesn't really change the fact that t1-t15 is still suboptimal for most things

[bronze falcon]

It wasn't meant to be optimal

But now unless you're playing 1% of the games content it's kinda a waste of time

[fossil mural]

at least poe1 has options to farm good currency outside of that content

[tranquil sedge]

t16.5 is desirable for several strats, and t17s while they're nice don't magically mean t16 is useless

[bronze falcon]

Get 4 voidstones, convert whole atlas to T16, still useless.

[tranquil sedge]

that doesn't mean a few more t17 layouts would be out of place, would be kind of nice actually

but t17s aren't as big a problem as everyone pretends they are, in terms of sheer map

their biggest problem is uber frags

by far

[bronze falcon]

Oh now, I'd rather have more variety of layouts. we agree there

[tranquil sedge]

also like and this is not u specifically or anything

[limber lance]

The ggg devs see t17 as a problem and they probably get reworked in 3,28

[bronze falcon]

Why are T17s so limited with layouts anyway? Why not the full roster?

[tranquil sedge]

but so fucking often i see people bitch about 'oh im not optimal not running t17 waaah'

and then u try and find out what they're actually running

and they're not even close to optimal on pre-t17 stuff

[bronze falcon]

We're good man, Im not taking it personally

[tranquil sedge]

its just funny af

[tranquil sedge]

no i know i just get heated in arguments its preemptive

[tranquil sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil sedge]

ye ultimately they do what they wanna do

best we can do is complain if we're unhappy, vote with wallet all that sorta thing

[normal hedge]

i wish fortress wasnt a 40% more loot thing

[fossil mural]

its also a weird complaint to me, cause if the strat you are running is better in t17s then do it there? and if your build cant handle it then GIT GUD, its the whole fucking point

[tranquil sedge]

i agree with this entirely

[fossil mural]

fort needs to have the shittiest frags possible LULE

[tranquil sedge]

fortress frags kinda suck so thats already there

[normal hedge]

and pack size between t17s should be similar

[tranquil sedge]

fortress is only most expensive t17 usually coz easy boss

and barrels

if maps were priced around frags ziggurat would be the most expensive

[final owl]

I mean I mostly run T16s still, i have managed 500d+ builds

[normal hedge]

even when the frags are bad they almost pay for the map

[limber lance]

Yeah, t17 for me werent a problem, but it was also not really a feature that people enjoyed besides the map having more potential for stras than t16. And it seems that t17 werent intended to overdo t16 maps

[fossil mural]

it usually is later into league

but early its fort yea

[tranquil sedge]

i point this out every time but lotta ppl dismiss it

like u could run zero t17s in a league and still make mirrors you'd just take a little longer

[bronze falcon]

It's never been the difficulty of T17's, it's the stagnant variety of options within them

There's like what, 6 layouts?

[tranquil sedge]

tbh t16.5 addressed this pretty heavily when they were introduced

and in 3.27 they nerfed how much you got out of t17-exclusive modifiers, lowering the gap even more

[fossil mural]

and at least one layout is unplayable

[limber lance]

And the lack of early viable builds for most t17 strats, which creates fomo for some people and kinda limits build diversity to sole degree

[tranquil sedge]

like if u pretend for one minute that uber frags do NOT exist

t17 suddenly feels a lot less important

when t16.5 exists if u prefer those

esp. when u can 8mod those more easily than t17s (in terms of difficulty)

[tranquil umbra]

yeah the problem is the combination of t17 having more loot scaling while also being the frag source

[tranquil sedge]

i will die on the hill that normal bosses should have a chance like 50% or w/e to drop 1 uber frag for their own boss

like just start trying that out or something

see how the economy goes its leagues ffs if it sucks we can undo it later

[limber lance]

Yeah, that wasn’t intentional as far as it goes in poe1

[bronze falcon]

Good convo but I gotta run for a meeting... blegh

later folks

[tranquil sedge]

have fun

[normal hedge]

being 100% honest if u're farming scarabs in dunes t16.5 doesn’t even give you half an inv of scarabs, it’s so sad lol

[tranquil sedge]

yea the t17 map mod nerf also hit those maps in the process

[normal hedge]

you can farm blight just fine in t16.5 at least

[tranquil sedge]

and its harder to roll those too

[limber lance]

Yeah we will have to see what 3.28 brings to the table for endgame and t17

[tranquil sedge]

blight, legion, harvest, breach

[fossil mural]

doing the easier version of a boss to get access to a harder boss? makes too much sense for ggg

[tranquil sedge]

the dumbest part is we have that

shaper + elder = uber elder

like cmon just take the inspiration its right there

[fossil mural]

but not uber uber cause we have t17s to "bridge" that gap

[tranquil sedge]

also like

[fossil mural]

they should have honestly stuck to unmodifiable 0 loot t17s or something

[tranquil sedge]

another part of the reason im so adamant that the t17 problem is uber frags

[fossil mural]

and make them just uber frag machines

[tranquil sedge]

is coz suppose t17s were nerfed tomorrow, right

to roll the t16 modpool only

you'd still run t17s

because uber frags would like 2x ur div/hr

uber frags make balancing that shit so hard when its the only source of uber frags

[fossil mural]

or you can look at it from a different angle and say the issue is you can do normal strats in t17

[tight plinth]

uber frags being t17 drop is weird, put the frag in the non uber version

[tranquil sedge]

at least with things like elder shaper and conq maps those are not rolling more difficult mods and they're more in supply and the cost of them is lower too so they balance themselves out in multiple ways

[tranquil sedge]

it would be really weird if you couldn't tho tbh
like i already hate that valdo exists coz of that

edge case after edge case kinda sucks

[fossil mural]

thats the mmo approach

I like it

but I understand if people dont

[tranquil sedge]

at least with ggg maps you could pretend there's some intentional balance even if u don't agree with it

meanwhile valdos are like here's quad ghosted feared with extra proj and void, reward is a lifesprig or something

they feel really out of place

[tranquil sedge]

i like t17s but i have to agree they lack balance

another thing that would be nice in 3.28 - revert that feared and remembered invitation change lol

[normal hedge]

ehhhh

[fossil mural]

xdd

[tranquil sedge]

especially the remembered 😂

[normal hedge]

remove sirus

and we good

[tranquil sedge]

or that yea

settle with sirus removal

[fossil mural]

I dislike the memory boss more

[tranquil sedge]

agree

[fossil mural]

its awkward to get to him

[tranquil sedge]

is there anyone that actually likes it?

[normal hedge]

i did feared rotas for a week, its pretty nice if u're tired of rolling maps and shit and its really profitable

especially when golem helms were really expensive

[tranquil sedge]

feared's pretty much always been a nice thing to do on a break ye

[normal hedge]

but sirus is a pain i hate him

[tranquil sedge]

especially coz the div/hr doing feared tends to be higher than you expect at face value

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge I am done rolling my clusters

[fossil mural]

I find it pretty dependant on whether influenced items are worth anything

[frigid wedge]

smalls?

[tranquil umbra]

swapping atziri for sirus is definitely a spike in difficulty

[brazen vector]

mortifying aspect and enduring composure

[tranquil sedge]

i wasn't even thinking about those tbh, in 3.25 and 3.26 i ran a ton of feared and just stacked like 6 quad tabs to disenchant it all over time lol
got a nice amount of dust out of it

but those could add up too with async yea

[frigid wedge]

you can tell its not my build

by the lack of a random megalo with endu comp

[brazen vector]

yea, I dont wanna spend that many passive points

plus

mine have 15+ res each

[frigid wedge]

for chaos res?

[brazen vector]

28 chaos res from clusters

[frigid wedge]

think i was fine for res tbh

[brazen vector]

oh wait, student of decay also has 13%

[frigid wedge]

183 overcapped lightning

[brazen vector]

41 chaos res from clusters

[frigid wedge]

she ballin

[fossil mural]

every time I see poe1 megalo I feel a little better

[frigid wedge]

id still b overcapped

[frigid wedge]

you should see my pbod megalo

quite possibly bis or VERY close to bis

[brazen vector]

the OG pob uses a maven flask and I dont think I can afford one xd

[brazen vector]

so I overcap via jewels

[frigid wedge]

this is my pbod

absolutely foul

[frigid wedge]

progen my baby

i have like 4 of them on std

goes on every build once i buy one

spent an extra 15d last league for my chosen foil last league on it

[brazen vector]

rookie numbers

[frigid wedge]

u gotta remember ive only properly achieved anything in league since settlers

i have more progens than leagues where ive achieved smth

where tf is everyone

[brazen vector]

same

back when it wasnt an uber drop I got a ton of em

[fossil mural]

contemplating 3.28 lasting 7 weeks

before 0.5

[frigid wedge]

0.5 what

poo2

?

[fossil mural]

yea

[frigid wedge]

Ew

i hope mtx for 3.28 are good

they won't be

but i can hope

salty what u wanting to play in 28

[tight plinth]

were scheduled for a good one, 3.27 was ass

i think 3.26 was ass too

[frigid wedge]

3.26 wasnt actually that great, we just had more loot

[tight plinth]

no i meant the mtx

[normal hedge]

yeah mtx was poor

[brazen vector]

why cant I set up curse overlap in PoB

[normal hedge]

you can do that girl!!!!

[frigid wedge]

config literally says vixens curse overlaps

[normal hedge]

we believe in you

[tight plinth]

3.25 was decent iirc

[frigid wedge]

3.25 mtx were good SLOTS but terrible mtx imo

portal was good tho

rest were eh

[normal hedge]

when was the life flask mtx?

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

affliction/crucible had the globes

[frigid wedge]

theres a search bar ale

in config

[tight plinth]

life flask mtx is the best one by far

shame i had no time to play that league

literally in the middle of the ocean the entire time 😭

[frigid wedge]

i think globe mtx should be a separate slot to helmet mtx

but alas

fuck you

xD

[brazen vector]

no shit

[celest bone]

oh no i think im done i kinda dont wanna play

[frigid wedge]

what u done with

the league?

[frigid wedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest bone]

ye the league

[frigid wedge]

fair

what u gonna do for the next like 3w

[celest bone]

cry

wbu

[tight plinth]

same

go to leddit and post how bad ggg is at their job

[frigid wedge]

maybe i try to make extra gear for my imp doom on std or smth

or try kboc and try to get a mirror or 2 of scarabs

idrk

i want play poe

[tight plinth]

what class hasnt had a rework in a while?

[frigid wedge]

but not want play phrecia

[celest bone]

poe doesnt exist outside of leagues for me

[tight plinth]

inquis?

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[modern zinc]

I love inquisitor

please don't rework it

they'll remove the es regen from consecrated ground

[tight plinth]

yeah inquis is in a good spot

jugg maybe

[frigid wedge]

honestly inquis feels like the most balanced asc rn

[tight plinth]

they should rework assassin again

[frigid wedge]

just unrework it

and add all damage can poison

rn theres more unique items in assassin that in fuckin scavenger

[final owl]

man wealthyexile got some weird numbers going on. why does it think my loathing essense are worth 9.1d each

[ocean field]

gng after playing poe2 for a while I can see why poe1 people take time to get used to it

[frigid wedge]

ur not gonna convert us

[ocean field]

game is less of a excel sheet and I gotta actually play

[frigid wedge]

stop

[ocean field]

gng I ain't saying 2 better

I am just saying difference is

analytics

[dusky void]

is point blank worth it for tornado shot mines?

[ocean field]

in poe1 I have never cared of boss fights or mechanics

just tank

[dusky void]

bosses have mechanics?

[charred condor]

Guys on an average what is your currency worth at the end of a league

[ocean field]

yeah but there is not much you can do about it

other than I guess moving a little

which lowkey will not help

so just gotta tank

[frigid wedge]

0d bc i constantly spend it all

[brazen vector]

My rtx died just now

[charred condor]

If u didn’t

[frigid wedge]

ehat

[charred condor]

Then what

[ocean field]

1 mirror

[frigid wedge]

1-2 mir unless im trying my best

[charred condor]

Oh

[brazen vector]

3-4 mirrors

[charred condor]

I’m might be at 1 div

Prob less

[frigid wedge]

first league?

[charred condor]

Then again I’m in white maps

[charred condor]

Yes

[frigid wedge]

you get used to it p fast and then u make a lot more

[brazen vector]

Thats pretty good already

[frigid wedge]

i wouldnt worry for now

[charred condor]

I was so happy when I beat the campaign and then started crying when I had to spend a lot of money for equipment upgrades

[frigid wedge]

most of the ppl in this chat are pretty proficient at the game

[charred condor]

Yea

[frigid wedge]

so i wouldnt be too concerned

once you know a bit more about whats going on it will start to pick up

[charred condor]

I lowk just came on this server for tips and such

[frigid wedge]

good idea

[ocean field]

poe2 feels more like elden ring as in me dodge rolling like a bth every 2 secs to not die

[hoary scarab]

spill issue

[dusky void]

is point blank worth it for tornado shot mines?

[normal hedge]

poe2 feels like poe1 but with less builds

[brazen vector]

What

Poe2 feels like blizzard made poe1

[normal hedge]

it has 5x more loot than poe1

[final owl]

idk. i like how the combat feels a bit more visceral and impactful in 2.

[ocean field]

spill issue indeed

[ocean field]

yeah lowkey found 2 exalts in act 1

ACT Fucking 1

[normal hedge]

acts are just tutorial

[tight plinth]

wow, ive never heard a more accurate descrition

[normal hedge]

build a snake make 500d per map

[brazen vector]

I too love inflation akin to Zimbabwe

[strong totem]

I've found 5 div in the campaign one league

[final owl]

but that is really the only aspect of 2 i like over 1 currently

[tight plinth]

my record is 3exalts in campaign when exalts was the div

[strong totem]

Actually, just this phrecia, one of my campaign lavish turned into 20div, so new record

[final owl]

dang. i got a stack of foulborn exalt in keepers early maps

[tight plinth]

i usually drop a div/exalt per campaign, but last few leagues nada

[final owl]

i usually get a campaign div. phrecia gave me nada >.>

[tight plinth]

im lucky to finish campaign with 10c to my name

[final owl]

i think phrecia 2 is the latest raw div drop i've had to date tbh

[flint nest]

Hello guys im a new poe1 player and when i started my new character and went to pick league i didnt read and picked the event one and i didnt know till i got my ascendency so at this point idk if i should keep playing or create new character

[gleaming gulch]

Are you phrecia or keepers

[flint nest]

phrecia i believe

[tranquil sedge]

sounds like he's in phrecia but this shouldn't be a problem if he just migrates the character to keepers, right?

like if he's at first lab, just migrate to keepers and continue from there? that should be how it works?

[gleaming gulch]

I didnt know u could migrate from phrecia to keepers but if so feel free to do that

[brazen vector]

Just keep playing

[gleaming gulch]

Phrecia is poe in alternate universe, its still poe but u may just get overwhlemed with the end game

Atlas league is prob a lot easier and ur knowledge will transfer over

[finite quail]

no its not

it's just an event league

[gleaming gulch]

But at the same time phrecia is fun too

[tranquil sedge]

the more important thing is it ends sooner than keepers and a character built around phrecia may brick in keepers

[gleaming gulch]

Thanks im aware im giving an analogy to a new player

[tranquil sedge]

so if ur migrating, you do it earlier not later imo

[normal hedge]

you cant migrate

it gets migrated when phrecia ends

[flint nest]

ok i get it now thank u guys very much

i will play till the league ends and will see if i can migrated to keepers or not or just create new character

[finite quail]

You have about a week left to play in phrecia

[gleaming gulch]

Yeah its one thing to learn about the game but if ure new just have fun and not worry too much about progression

[finite quail]

Afterwards you'll be sent to keepers and your ascendancy will change

[gleaming gulch]

Just dip ur feet in the game

When 3.28 comes out then u can properly spend a full league to learn

[finite quail]

It'll be alright though

We get a new league on march 6th

[flint nest]

alright thank you all very much for all that help and info

[finite quail]

Np

[tranquil sedge]

oh damn

why
that seems like a weird thing to not allow

[normal hedge]

idk, but i remember not being able in phrecia 1

i think

[tranquil sedge]

sadge

[loud furnace]

whats the level of grace cast by perfect primal thunder bird?

[normal hedge]

@loud furnace

[loud furnace]

thanks

[tranquil sedge]

its based on keepers and so it has the league-specific stuff in it lol
it can't migrate to standard before keepers merges with it

[signal hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-son-rage-gif-14907497

Give me teasers GGGeeeeeeeeeee

[brazen vector]

Tomorrow

[bronze falcon]

I'm back folks!

[sleek barn]

wb

[modern zinc]

I don't understand why I have a 360dps axe on pob but I don't even deal 10k dps

[brazen vector]

No scaling?

[modern zinc]

I guess......

[gentle chasm]

needs more context

[brazen vector]

Wait let me redo it

[cosmic eagle]

my damn vanity are priced at 50 div minimum and there are only 5 on the market, i guess 5 ways was not that good

[sleek barn]

deadge economy

[cosmic eagle]

red dream foulborn 34 div shiiiit

[brazen vector]

Sold one for 37

[sleek barn]

holy essences

[cosmic eagle]

damn

[brazen vector]

That must be a mistake xd

[frigid wedge]

it is

[normal hedge]

nice 54d

[finite quail]

fake price

[sleek barn]

just sold

kidding

[opal ingot]

nah its real

dan sold it to me

[brazen vector]

Did you P2P trade?

[opal ingot]

yeah we wanted to relive the good old days

nowadays there's too little friction in the game

i bet next league we'll get autosort inventory and autolooting pets

the league after we'll get act 1tabulas if you got the current supporter pack

then the league after there will be auto-farming where we just let the bot do the work for us

just like some mmorpgs i've seen

i wonder why that's even a thing

autofarming where their characters literally play the game for them

ive seen it in mu online mobile

[finite quail]

paying to reduce progression

[opal ingot]

my favorite, pay to play less

[finite quail]

it's basically so the owners of the game profit from people wanting to skip ahead, instead of bot service hosters profiting illegally from it

[opal ingot]

oh nice

never thought about it that way

[finite quail]

why do you think wow lets you pay to get like, level 60 instantly

and lets you buy gold

[opal ingot]

idk wow

gameplay

i was thinking more along the lines of pandering to the audience XD but thats a better explanation honestly

[finite quail]

because if they don't do it themselves, players will find a way to do it themselves

[dusky void]

wait is locus mine just better than high impact mine?

[kindred silo]

yes but its targeting is horrible to play with (it always aims at u)

[dusky void]

ok yeah it sucksnow i understand why power siphon is the only build that can use it

[cosmic eagle]

how do you get regen on flask?

[tranquil umbra]

Crafting bench

[cosmic eagle]

sweet

[whole bluff]

what ascendancy for pobd if I want clear?

or is there any good CoC atm?

[brazen vector]

Chain of command?

[whole bluff]

cast on crit

meh

[brazen vector]

Nono, you want chain of command

[whole bluff]

nope

[frigid wedge]

puppy

[brazen vector]

Ouppy

[frigid wedge]

ouppy!

[brazen vector]

[dire pond]

Anyone else wish there was a once-per-league thing where you could level a character to 68 instantly with all skill/respec points and campaign done?

[brazen vector]

No

[normal hedge]

No

Campaign is 0.5% of poe1

[dire pond]

Fair enough.

[grizzled lily]

YESSSS

let me dopamine max alr GGG

i want to start my league with a level 95 character

level 100

[tranquil sedge]

absolutely not 😄

[brazen vector]

I want full mirror gear when I click play and 3939281783959271.mirrors in my stash

[tranquil sedge]

its not just that campaign's a short thing in the overall playtime

its also like
why stop at campaign

[dire pond]

But only after your first character hits lvl 90-95 or smth.

[tranquil sedge]

at that point ur next campaign run's going to be half the time of the first or less if you just buy a bit of basic gear

but its just a really slippery slope lol

[normal hedge]

ty god they already said thats never going to happen anyways

[tranquil sedge]

yeh

its the kind of thing i'd believe if someone said existed in diablo or something

[brazen vector]

Level boosts exist in wow and other mmos

[tranquil sedge]

coz my opinion of blizzard and diablo can't really get any lower anyway

[ancient snow]

do people still play main season or is everyone on phrecia 2.0?

[tranquil sedge]

i know, just one reason why they're shit games

[brazen vector]

Eh, you can totally ignore that stuff tbh

[tranquil umbra]

it's still shitty business practices

[tranquil sedge]

its very easy to say that but the practical outcomes of them are not so easy to ignore

[brazen vector]

In gw2 you amass tomes of knowledge to boost a character

In WoW you have remix events to level twinks

Its not that bad in general

[dire pond]

I am only wondering this because Keepers is a laggy mess and I wish I could toggle so only unstable breaches showed up so I didn't have to do a loop-de-loop around half the map or risk a crash by doing the hive.

[brazen vector]

Thats fair, yea

[tranquil sedge]

oh i'll happily clown on keepers if you like

but uh
why is keepers' breach specifically lagging for you
or is it just breach in general even before keepers?

[brazen vector]

Keepers in acts is annoying, yea

[bronze falcon]

keepers constantly has you over leveled in campaign

[brazen vector]

Nah

[tranquil umbra]

yeah

[tranquil umbra]

it does

[tranquil sedge]

that isn't keepers exclusive tbh

[brazen vector]

I skipped every breach and am 2 levels below area level on my second char in phrecia

[tranquil umbra]

you level up like almost every area it's kind of insane the xp you get from doing the breach

[tranquil sedge]

or even if i take a step back and lets just assume ur right

i dont think that's a big deal ngl

[dire pond]

My GPU isn't the best and keepers beats it for every toaster strudel it has.

[bronze falcon]

Its not

[tranquil sedge]

unfortunate :/

[dire pond]

Any other league mechanic/lab runs smooth as butter.
Second I step into a map I'm fighting for my life.

[tranquil sedge]

the main reason - the moment you add a convenience of any kind, whther its pay to win/skip or even just power creep that's masquerading as qol, any and all future content development is biased

lets make <new content>?

or lets make <new content> but make it 20% slower and offer a 20% paid speedup reward?

that sorta thing

[brazen vector]

I think its entirely okay if you also offer items in game for free you can collect over time to boost a character, like in gw2

But for wow I agree

[tranquil sedge]

its also why i think the one-button rotation they added to wow, or revolution mode in runescape (same thing) are absolutely trash ideas made by people who have no idea what they're doing

[dire pond]

If Keepers is going core I am 100% pathing to whatever passive lets me block it unless there is a passive that lets you only have unstable breaches.

[tranquil sedge]

once u add that well now ur entire combat design philosophy is pretty fucked

[brazen vector]

Eh, I think they fucked the whole combat system in midnight either way so far xD

My complex dh rotation is like a 2 button rotation now :(

[bronze falcon]

incoming new scarabs that guarantee one of the two breach modes

[tranquil sedge]

pandering to lowest common denominator

[brazen vector]

If you can even call it rotation

[finite quail]

rotates you

[tranquil sedge]

runescape3's combat team has been useless as fuck for a while now tbh

[finite quail]

[tranquil sedge]

🚨

[brazen vector]

Now im dizzy

[dire pond]

Please just let it be a point on the atlas tree, scarbs are such a pain to hoard.
(Someone who speedruns to Unwavering Vision every league)

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/abstract-black

[normal hedge]

it gonna be like expedition

80% inc chance to be x

[split maple]

why do that to yourself

[brazen vector]

NoooooooiIoIOOOOO

[normal hedge]

even if you choose tujen, only gwennen appears

😠

[dire pond]

Because I'm too stupid to juggle scarabs.

[tranquil sedge]

Someone who speedruns to Unwavering Vision every league
is bad gpu the reason for this also

what 'juggling' is there

[bronze falcon]

gwennen is inevitable

[split maple]

to stupid also to sell them at fausty?

[tranquil sedge]

u literally just copy the same 2-5 scarabs every uses and run them

buy a stack of each, put in device, go run maps for an hour or two without any more work

when run out repeat

[tranquil sedge]

also you're losing a lot of* currency potentially by doing that

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[tranquil sedge]

like even if u didnt wanna run scarabs

just don't run them

plus just missing out on more content, if ur pc can run it

[bronze falcon]

just run T17's with fully loaded risk scarabs /s

[tranquil sedge]

tfw that strat was yeeted

[dire pond]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[tranquil sedge]

imagine having more strats than just strongboxes

[bronze falcon]

hense the /s

ngl, thats the one strat I've not spent much time with

Kinda want to try heist

[dire pond]

Heist sounds neat now that the player cap in Rogue Harbor is down.

[steel light]

tried ambush containment during eagon questlines, disappointing

[tranquil sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bronze falcon]

Its pretty slot-machine-y isnt it? Like you either hit it big or waste the entire league?

[dire pond]

But I can never figure out which duplicate rewards to give which thief.

Also don't get me started on Eagon I enter a petal map and my pc gives up.

[tranquil sedge]

just copy whatever the first reddit or youtube guide you find says that's my go-to

[bronze falcon]

flip wizdom scrolls, ez

[dire pond]

But it is nice to not have to level rogues anymore.

I just hope 3.28's league mechanic is less flashy than Keepers.

[normal hedge]

3.28 best league made trust me

[bronze falcon]

It's true, my uncle works at nintendo

[latent bay]

Does PoE2 worth to buy in early access?

[tranquil sedge]

you're asking poe1 players

#2┃general ask here instead

[latent bay]

Oh shi, mb

[crisp plinth]

well if you ask here no

if you ask there yes

[bronze falcon]

I found it enjoyable enough to play 3 chars to 90+

[latent bay]

I didn't see that

[crisp plinth]

now you're as far as you were before

[bronze falcon]

besides, you get 300 points for the shop so it's a win, imo

You basically buy 300 points and get PoE2 access for free

[tranquil sedge]

yea but you get the same out of any $30 supporter pack too and that gives cosmetics, not an access that'll be free one day

if ur buying poe2 ea it should only be coz u want to play the ea as the main reason

[bronze falcon]

Not everyone wants to wait a year+ for it to release

[crisp plinth]

the most genius thing of corpas nowadays is selling you random company scrip as bonus and people love it

[tranquil sedge]

i agree, but like i said at ur just buying it to play the early access as the main thing then 😄

points are nice and pay for some stash but thats incidental

[bronze falcon]

Yep, I bought it because I wanted to play it. That's why I usually buy games

[tranquil sedge]

-# tell that to my steam backlog

-# surely ill finish them all one day

[bronze falcon]

Thats on you, lol

[tranquil sedge]

😄

[bronze falcon]

I've been playing Pokemon with the games Epic offers up for free. Get em all, play virtually zero

[tranquil sedge]

im like a third of the way through far cry 5 now
once i finish that i'll finish the last 10% of sekiro i've been putting off since june 2025

[latent bay]

Well, so buying PoE2 early access is no different from buying 300 golds?

[tranquil sedge]

when you spend $ in poe shop you get points equvialent to the $ amount you spend, in addition to whatever you bought

so a $30 poe2 EA pack, gives 300 points

a $30 supporter pack, would also give 300 points

[bronze falcon]

$30 on a coins gets you 300 coins

[crisp plinth]

epic couldnt pay me enough to register there

[latent bay]

Yeah, I see

[bronze falcon]

There's multiple ways to spend $30, each get you 300 coins plus some perks depending on what you want

[brazen vector]

Don't spend 30$ on lego sets

[bronze falcon]

pfft, lego starts at $400 and a pinky

[brazen vector]

Try 500$

[tranquil sedge]

anyway as for ur original question if u want an attempt at an objective answer

its in early access, its missing lots of content, it will inevitably have balance and other issues, and its not really the same pace of game as poe1 at all, and you don't know when it will reach full release 1.0

but at the same time, you don't know when it will reach full release 1.0, so if u want to play it within any reasonable amount of time (because no sane person thinks its going to be leaving early access anytime soon), buy it

[latent bay]

I have 1 more curios question

Why do people are playing in hardcore mode?

[tranquil sedge]

self-imposed challenge

[bronze falcon]

For the challenge

[golden timber]

Imo "early access" means nothing to me The game is playable Does anything else matter?

[bronze falcon]

YES - My MTX don't work 🙁

[arctic kayak]

Because it leaves less scars than a cat of nine tails

[tranquil sedge]

The game is playable
you mean, the game that's missing many classes, ascendencies, league mechanics, balance passes, skills, supports, and so on?

like if you enjoy it who are we to tell you not to enjoy it, more power to you

[latent bay]

Have they ever touching grass atp 😢

[tranquil sedge]

but don't pretend its even remotely near complete, it isn't lol

[gentle flint]

is cali server lagging wtf

[brazen vector]

[golden timber]

I dont see it really as missing classes In my eyes its more of The game released with said amount of classes and will have more when they are ready Not like the game will be actually complete in 1.0

[tranquil sedge]

will have more when they are ready
the word you were looking for here was 'complete'
'when it is complete'

Not like the game will be actually complete in 1.0
then why did they have to sell it as an early access game? because even they can't pretend it has enough to actually be worth spending money on if it this was the full game at release

[keen veldt]

how much rarity would u guys say is noticeable?

[tranquil sedge]

like i already said if you enjoy it then that's great for you and go have fun

but if you wanna try defending 'early access' logic idk man maybe have some self respect

[ornate patrol]

@brazen vector are there even any good safehouse rewards left?

[sand grove]

my pc got a virus so i have to download this ALL over again woo

[tranquil sedge]

im not sure anymore apparently its less impactful now even for gold

but i imagine anything you get above baseline 0% is probably not bad

like a gold flask or a couple rarity rolls on gear or something

[keen veldt]

I have 160 with the hat craft and mb flask/suffix

not sure if I should get some more

[brazen vector]

yea, gravicious in transport, rin in transport, haku in transport

[ornate patrol]

but grav is dedge

[tranquil sedge]

i don't think there'd be much point in going higher then, my opinion

[ornate patrol]

man i dont wanna learn betrayal again

[brazen vector]

just bargain execute 24/7 it doesnt matter

[keen veldt]

I’m fine with that lol ty, I’ve never used rarity even when farming uniques

[ornate patrol]

ye im just intel maxxing

[keen veldt]

hoping to get dopamine drop

[tranquil sedge]

glgl

[sand grove]

guys is my internet speed fast

[sleek barn]

thats enough to download doom

[golden timber]

ARPGS that keep getting more and more content added to them just never strike me as complete Even poe1 feels like a train that keeps getting better And even in its current state the 20 or 30 USD that poe2 costs is definitely worth it considering how much time atleast I got out of it in 0.1

[fossil mural]

is this bigapits?

[golden timber]

sorry for the 500 hours between messages i was doing something

[tranquil sedge]

its fine dw im mid apex game too xd

[sleek barn]

i did not expect you to be an apex gamer

[fossil mural]

just like that

you know a man your whole life

and then turns out he plays apex

[golden timber]

insane one of 5 apex players world wide

[tranquil sedge]

smh my head

i only play mixtape

[keen veldt]

fuse abuser methinks

[tranquil sedge]

valkyire and octane
basic bitch af

[keen veldt]

I like conduit and revenant

(I am bad)

[cobalt blade]

unless your specifically unique farming ye ^

more than enough for gold

[tranquil sedge]

ye i already said that's a fair take

u can definitely sink in plenty of time even now if you wanted to yup and per-hour dollar cost gonna be tiny

[golden timber]

Yeah I like judging these games on a per hour dollar thingy if the hours i spent were actually fun

[tranquil sedge]

and if both are taken i go bangalore and smoke everyone as best i can

[golden timber]

like imma be honest my whole first 150 hours of poe1 werent that fun'

[tranquil sedge]

if i can't see the enemies

they can't see me

10/10 logic

[golden timber]

pathfinder only

[crisp plinth]

sounds fun

[keen veldt]

something feels wrong about placing the value of a game on hours to dollars scale but I can’t quite put my finger on it, it certainly is a metric with some value

[elfin igloo]

I wish I could start playing PoE again, and I only played a boneshatter or earthshatter build. Honestly I don't feel like trying something else. I low key hate I have to follow a guide.

[keen veldt]

subnautica is one of my fave games ever but I’ve put 10x more time into grind based games

[elfin igloo]

What is there to do in PoE once you reach end game anyway?

[cobalt blade]

Minmax the shit outta your character

[crisp plinth]

explore other classes, skills, fun interactions

[cobalt blade]

Toss yourself into harder and harder endgame content

[keen veldt]

refine your build, do stuff that you find fun, work on projects you never thought you’d be able to work on

[cosmic eagle]

any1 farming maps? which idol mods yall are using

[fossil mural]

get bored and leave

[elfin igloo]

I think Imma start all over just so I can pick up the pace again.

[cobalt blade]

Also if by endgame you mean finishing campaign thats basically the start of the game

[elfin igloo]

ye

[ornate patrol]

[crisp plinth]

samesies

[ornate patrol]

holy

[cobalt blade]

pog a jv

[elfin igloo]

what did i need before i start? a loot filter and poe tree builds?

[keen veldt]

you can use the default filters in game initially, and yeah find a build to work towards

if you’re gonna start mapping

[fallen lava]

The other 90% of the game. The primary endgame mechanic of running maps with the 12 or so side mechanics that you can choose to ignore or expand in various ways.

[fallen lava]

A build is more than the tree, and you don't HAVE to follow a guide if you stick to certain general guidelines.

[arctic kayak]

before you start id get a credit card

for tabs

[tranquil sedge]

naw

dont spend $ until ur done with campaign at the very least

at least then u know if ur actually gonna be playing the game longer or not

[arctic kayak]

THEN TABS!!!!

many many tabs 😄

[fallen lava]

And can wait until the next sale.

[arctic kayak]

and MTX, I always feel like I do more DPS when I sparkle

[tranquil sedge]

lol

dont forget that rgb gets you more fps

[arctic kayak]

that what what?

[modern zinc]

this game is crazy man

[snow nymph]

how long will phrecia last?

[tranquil sedge]

ends 19th feb

[snow nymph]

tyvm

[tranquil sedge]

you need RGB everything

rgb ram rgb motherboard rgm gpu rgb liquid cooler rgb EVERYTHING

then you get more fps, obviously

[arctic kayak]

ahh RL MTX

[cobalt blade]

remember the most important mtx is herald mtx incredible visuals

[brazen vector]

in what order is mana cost reduction calculated?

flat then % or the other way around?

[fallen lava]

How is the flat reduction worded? Doesn't it specify its deducted from total mana cost?

[brazen vector]

"x% reduced mana cost of skills"

wait the flat one

[split maple]

dobby is a free elf!

[brazen vector]

just the non channeling craft

[brazen vector]

OMG GG

[cobalt blade]

P sure flats at the end

[fallen lava]

That's what I thought as well.

[brazen vector]

thats pretty good then :D

[sand grove]

im downloading the game again should i lowk delete all my characters and start over from scratch

[fallen lava]

Either way we'd encourage playing in the league, not in standard.

[sand grove]

alrighty

[elfin igloo]

can you guys recommend me a melee build?

[sand grove]

also is there a cheap early game build that i could use

[split maple]

earthshatter berserker

[fallen lava]

Any league starter on maxroll for the keepers league.

[granite bloom]

does shock effect affected miminum shock from shaper of storm? if yes, why 25% * 1.95 = 31% ?

[cobalt blade]

it does and you probably have a custom number overriding it?

[worldly bridge]

Good morn- HOLY SHIT ITS TWO PM

[cobalt blade]

me waking up at 6pm :3

[final forge]

Above time (18:00 GMT) in your local time · Feb 12, 2026, 6:00 PM

[cobalt blade]

i always forget i have that setup

[worldly bridge]

Anyway time to go cry at awakener scarab prices

[cobalt blade]

(or also actually shocked ground can cause pob to read a shocked ground number instead of shaper of storms)

[elfin shale]

Flat from total mana cost goes last
Flat from mana cost goes first

Notably if you use a Reflecting Mist on the crafted modifiers that take from the Total mana cost and turn them negative, they instead add to the base mana cost for some reason

[split maple]

ez

[crimson spear]

I have like 10 logbooks in standard, I don't think I've ever run one before. Any strategy to maximizing profit from them?

[elfin shale]

Just the normal stuff for Expedition

Make sure to roll them like a map tho

[modern zinc]

I don't ~need~ to have max block and spell block, right?

70% is fine?

[elfin shale]

I mean yeah

[crimson spear]

Got it.

[elfin shale]

But thats 20% more attacks getting through

[cobalt blade]

Ay but block doesn't have entropy so it feels quite a bit worse

[sleek barn]

run black scythe or the dannig ones

you can blessing orb logbooks for better implicit values

other than that there's not much

[crimson spear]

Good to know

[sleek barn]

they're not particularly profitable

[modern zinc]

alright......

[split maple]

if one of dannig ones has boss implicit rather sell it

to folks hunting for bloodline or challenge completion

[sleek barn]

it's in std

[split maple]

std also has bloodlines tho idk waht market is in std

[cobalt blade]

im sure people buy that in standard

the like 5 people playing

[sleek barn]

yah just saying for challenge completion

[crimson spear]

I'm low on space in my shop, I'm sure it'll be faster to just run these for a profit.

[sleek barn]

you can store them in the expedition locker

so you don't take up stash space

hold on I gotta get off Spanish keyboard lmao

[modern zinc]

¿ why would you do that ?

[sleek barn]

the ñ fucks up my typing

[brazen vector]

awh I need level 67 for my amulet

[sand grove]

its 2026 bro 😭

[worldly bridge]

BRUH WHAT THE FUCK

i thought people were giga juicing scarab drops

[modern zinc]

$$$$

[tranquil umbra]

yeah but they are also giga juicing harvest

[worldly bridge]

yeah well

im missing three conq idols 😭

i cant farm this shit anymore

[tranquil umbra]

shit happens

[split maple]

implicits to be finished when i decide which eater i actually want 😄

thankfuly quick craft

[tranquil umbra]

unfractured abyssal socket hmm

[split maple]

if you want both temple mod and abyssal you need to frac temple mod

no way around it

[tranquil umbra]

ig you just spam crafted with the abyssal socket fossil

[split maple]

slaped on one hollow fossil, eldritch annuled third suffix

then its just eldritch prefix until mana, fbl exalt the last prefix

[tranquil umbra]

ah right I forgot eldritch currency

I keep crafting weapons so I forget those are real

[stuck phoenix]

The scuff

[gaunt swift]

#poe1-news !!!

[potent bramble]

Sooo... Immortal Syndicate 2.0?

[eternal hill]

[potent bramble]

Too much copium?

[eternal hill]

Something Faradun / Maraketh related

[whole bluff]

is there any data on how common memory tears are?

[plush galleon]

if its a sanctum league im fucking k

[stuck phoenix]

What does sanctum have to do with the desert

Or hourglasses

[split maple]

its time

[eternal hill]

sanctum gon

[split maple]

thats alva

[stuck phoenix]

Or sand of time conspiring

[eternal hill]

Its literally poo2 trial of sekhema due to hourglass + desert

[split maple]

pls dont tell me sanctum is getting reworked

just buff it back cmon

[pulsar dune]

They did promise a sanctum rework, no?

[eternal hill]

and something that might spoil a thing: ||+the voice acting role half a year ago that has maraketh ties ||

[crisp plinth]

you will get poe2 mechanics and you will like it

[split maple]

i can just see that we aint getting balances of terror anymore

like if they make it as innacesible as they made grasping mails

[eternal hill]

just farm the hive glands

🙂

[stuck phoenix]

There's still a thousand instant buyout grasping mails in keepers

[eternal hill]

you only need 200 or so

[stuck phoenix]

Plenty of stock :p

[crisp plinth]

farmed all of mine in ssf didnt even get all diff unique rings

[split maple]

you used to be able to get 1 per 3 maps

now i get maybe 15 synaptics a week

one chance at grasping mod per two weeks is horribad

[stuck phoenix]

Krill issue

[eternal hill]

the WEIGHT

[stuck phoenix]

Don't play ssf then :p

[sleek barn]

what is this

[stuck phoenix]

Teaser

[sleek barn]

time travel league

[stuck phoenix]

Alva already exists

[split maple]

something is that game is balanced around trade and that is allright

[sleek barn]

uh

[split maple]

something is that you get one breach ring per whatever many maps

[sleek barn]

yeah I got no clue then

[pulsar dune]

Sands of time sounds familiar, where else is that?

[stuck phoenix]

Prince of persia, apparently

[split maple]

0/0 ctrl-f hits in lore compendium

maybe some item text?

[stuck phoenix]

Made me think about hearthstone

What

[split maple]

ctrl-f "sands of time" in https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1poxzo5/lore_compilation_update_for_poe_327_poe_ii_04/ pdf returns 0

[pulsar dune]

Hm, IG just a related memory

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

It's not a poe thing

[elfin shale]

Aw fuck its Trial of The Sekhemas

[stuck phoenix]

Well, aside from being mentioned one single time in Kalandra

[sleek barn]

i think im cooking

[stuck phoenix]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kalandra

[sand summit]

where can i find a starter guide on phrecia idol setups

[crisp plinth]

those things just look like the poe2 sanctum timed event

[elfin shale]

Doesnt Jun have something to say related to that when you visit their old temple?

[sleek barn]

whats the trial of the sekhamas in poo2

[stuck phoenix]

No

[elfin shale]

Sanctum

[sleek barn]

painge

[tranquil umbra]

Sanctum League 2.0

[elfin shale]

But the pinnacle boss has aura instead of being a failgirl

[stuck phoenix]

Which btw I found by searching the wiki for "sands of time"

And it's the only result

[sleek barn]

lake of kalandra + sanctum

[split maple]

if they make sanctum drop rare jewels instead of divs i will go crazy

[sleek barn]

i see zao

[stuck phoenix]

This is weak

Just use wiki smh smh

[stuck phoenix]

Eh, kalandra poked her hands in a lot of the lore

[sleek barn]

well in the kalandra context i think its just a phrase

[lucid gale]

@stuck phoenix Today's morning song: Robert Broberg - Öken

Sand, sand, sand, sand, grus och stoft, vilket jävla land!

[stuck phoenix]

Mmmm

[sleek barn]

huge sand castle league

build sand castle and defend it

[stuck phoenix]

Ate this the other day

[sleek barn]

is that pepperoni

[leaden mural]

where are the lore people?

[stuck phoenix]

Admittedly I haven't listened to this guy

[elfin shale]

I hope its not like Legion where its just kill as many enemies in as short a time as possible

[elfin shale]

Bologna i think

[sleek barn]

i could use a simple mechanic or two

[stuck phoenix]

Speculating about the gameplay is kinda useless

[stuck phoenix]

Lol no

It's falukorv

[vale compass]

she was hired by ggg

[sleek barn]

is that a type of sausage

[elfin shale]

Bologna is a type of sausage so really i was pretty close

[sleek barn]

baloney

[leaden mural]

yooo I saw that ggs huge win for her, big sad for us she prob can't do videos now right? They will be spoilers

[stuck phoenix]

Korv is the Swedish word for sausage

[sleek barn]

i see

so it is falu sausage

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[sleek barn]

does falu itself have meaning

[hybrid harness]

man I hope it isnt some timegated bs forcing u into giga dmg/clear builds

[stuck phoenix]

It's a place

[sleek barn]

i see

so like french fries

[vale compass]

she said on youtube that she intends to continue vids, but probably just wont be able to speculate on the fututre

[elfin shale]

What if its Blight+ToTA where you have to build the path and can add additional obstacles for more loot

I wonder if it has a new boss if itll have a Bloodline

[stuck phoenix]

Lol
More like champagne

[elfin shale]

Its just sparkling sausage

[stuck phoenix]

Did you even know that champagne is a place

[elfin shale]

Well yeah cuz if its not from champagne its just sparkling wine

Or whatever the bit is

[compact saddle]

I did not know this actually

[stuck phoenix]

lol

[stuck phoenix]

Fair enough

[bronze falcon]

yeah.... "launch day"....

[hard cliff]

lol

[golden phoenix]

I miss falukorv

[stuck phoenix]

I pity you

[golden phoenix]

[whole bluff]

man, now I want falukorv

[hybrid harness]

falukorv kinda ass ngl. only good cuz cheap

[stuck phoenix]

It's great

Don't you dare insult it

[golden phoenix]

It's not bad

It's not good

But it's home

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

It is the taste of home though

[vale compass]

yeah but its so good fried with sunny side up eggs

[golden phoenix]

Fried falukorv is the only way

[whole bluff]

falukorv half sliced through, then cheese + idk apple or honey or something like that in the cuts, in the oven

[stuck phoenix]

Falukorv i ugn

Korvstroganoff

[stoic horizon]

i like your magic words guys

[golden phoenix]

haha swädish go brrrr

[whole bluff]

yäs indejd

[stuck phoenix]

[hazy kiln]

come in to see teaser reactions, find extreme Swedishness instead

[stuck phoenix]

Jo

[golden phoenix]

Hi viper

[stuck phoenix]

Xd

I blame zao

[stoic horizon]

wait there was a teaser

[stuck phoenix]

He started it

[whole bluff]

there was a teaser 😮

[stoic horizon]

[hazy kiln]

[devout patio]

Welcome to the discord

[stoic horizon]

maraketh theme inc ig

[stuck phoenix]

Anyways

[elfin shale]

How are SRS of Enormity outside of blowing them to smithereens?

[vale compass]

https://tenor.com/view/uka-ukaiås-funksjonær-alle-tiders-tider-gif-18331754

[whole bluff]

do they have good salmon in NZ? @golden phoenix

[devout patio]

here is hoping your not bringing Sekema to POE1 🧐

[elfin shale]

Im thinking they should be pretty solid cuz they get much more value out of +max raging spirits?

[stoic horizon]

we already have sanctum which is almost the same thing

[golden phoenix]

Yeah it's not bad

[elfin shale]

If we get a Chronomancer Bloodline i will allow it

[devout patio]

they could update it

[pulsar dune]

They did mention they want to do more sanctum changes

[whole bluff]

that's nice at least, I suppose maybe most good salmon in Sweden is possibly Norwegian anyway, so maybe better than actual swedish salmon

[limber lance]

Is evolving shrine alva still a thing as of 3.27?

[vale compass]

to make ascencion more familiar in poe1 to poe2 player we decided to remove lab and replace it with trial of sekhema

[elfin shale]

No

[limber lance]

What did thry do

[elfin shale]

Evolving Shrine can no longer proc multiple times per enemy iirc

[limber lance]

Why do they need to nerf every good raw currency strat

Even abyss hordes

[hazy kiln]

there's a particular local salmon brand called Ora King which is absolutely amazing but it's one of those cases where it's so heavily exported that it's harder to find here than overseas 😭

[golden phoenix]

[torn forge]

Which of the legion emblems are worth running, if any

[elfin shale]

Evolving Shrines from the
Domination Scarab of Evolution
now reduce the chance for monsters to upgrade rarity every time a monster upgrades rarity, but now has a base chance to evolve of 25% (previously 10%).

It actually might be fine? Unless it got double tapped which is very very likely

[split maple]

all of them

at the same time

[elfin shale]

^

[torn forge]

Okay, how do you tell which jewels are worth something

Lol

[split maple]

slap 5 different emblems into map device, kill bosses, go to center to reset, repeat, try to pricecheck jewels, cry

give up, slap into bulk tab

[elfin shale]

Cry

[limber lance]

I hope we get some loot buff in 3.28. i dont want strongboxes for the gazillionth time

[thick goblet]

rare jewels? typically need 3+ synergistic mods to start to be considered valuable

[elfin shale]

I just want a league mechanic worth running

[limber lance]

Word

[torn forge]

No no, timeless

[limber lance]

Chances are slim though

[thick goblet]

oh you just gotta look at trade, all the 5 way people have made massive excel sheets over years but those are all private

[torn forge]

Are you joking the tree is fantastic for getting perfect rolls on gear, and foulborn uniques are at least interesting (though they could have made more of them good)

[limber lance]

The mechanic in the maps is dawgggggass though

[minor hull]

i just want crucible wep in new league

and affliction currency stacks dropping

[pulsar dune]

Sorry, best we have is unscaled tile loot

[minor hull]

and no waiting game like ailith yelling for 24 waves

[limber lance]

I want affcliction back so bad at least a simliar juicy league

[pulsar dune]

I think in every single example of someone running an endgame strat, they said they wouldn't do breach/they gave up on breach

[minor hull]

this idea of making us wait and do phases of sht is so unrewarding and waste of time

we playing poe1 not poe2

[torn forge]

This is likely partly because they didn't give it a few Atlas nodes so the look scaling sucks

[limber lance]

Yeah, at some point its just not worth doing the mechanic for graftbloof

[pulsar dune]

Yes, league mechanics shouldn't have atlas nodes, it sucks when they do

That's sort of the issue with making league mechanics that don't scale the map

[stray sedge]

https://imgur.com/a/3GkLp9t

[pulsar dune]

But instead just sort of throw in some garbage

[stray sedge]

imagine lol

"they're back, not just 1 in every 100 maps!!"

[limber lance]

Most forgettable league to ever have existed

[stray sedge]

yeah lol

its up there

[torn forge]

Looks at Synthesis

[limber lance]

Together with crucible which was just made to give standard players crazy mirror gear

[pulsar dune]

Affliction and Necro had relevant league mechanics, IIRC settlers was pretty irrelevant, and Merc and breach were completely worthless. (In the context of being relevant for endgame mapping)

[limber lance]

I get what you say and yeah. At least settlers had a somewhat lasting impact on the game

[modern zinc]

I didn't knew the Black Star could multiply herself in 2

[frigid wedge]

synth had a lasting impact

[limber lance]

Although i miss the settlers enchantments

[torn forge]

Synthesis league was sooooooo ass

Genuinely

Might have been most hated league mechanic

[modern zinc]

I remember, I hated it

[limber lance]

What was the mechanic in synt?

[torn forge]

Synthesis league made this league look fun as shit

[pulsar dune]

Synth was the silly light radius league, no?

[modern zinc]

something about making custom maps with a time duration

they were half eaten in grey goo

[pulsar dune]

You had to recomb light radius rings to get explicit power charges, and this wasn't explained anywhere

[limber lance]

Sounds ass

Kinda like kalandras but worse?

[modern zinc]

YEAH

pretty much

[torn forge]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Synthesis_league

Each zone had like, a sub zone thing and the sub zone decayed, to get the sub zone you had to interact with all of the things in the zone, then it gave you that zone in the main mechanic, where you had to piece the zones together

[limber lance]

Thank god i missed out

[halcyon prawn]

is 3.28 really gonna be sanctum update

[vale compass]

yes sanctum updated by being deleted

[torn forge]

Oh god yes, I really think it made this league look pristine and fantastic

[limber lance]

Sanctum update but instead of doubling currency you can only halve it now

The new teaser hints at some kind of time based leaguemechanic i guess?

[elfin shale]

Based

[limber lance]

potentially

[stray sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/153573935013822464/1363109140594954360/FunDetected.webp

wut

[vale compass]

Sanctum got destroyed and we have to rebuild it, based on how much your account has spent in sanctum over its lifetime you need to donate more divs to restoration effort. Finally once restored it will passively generate 1d/week

[stray sedge]

It was clunky but the concept was fucking cool

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYmo1a3NqcGxlYW9taDA4dHp4b2VkNXp4MG5ndWNlY3lqdmljOHlvNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/qrRKSOvggOdmCZ7uPp/giphy.gif

[pulsar dune]

Honestly synth rework would be welcome

The relevant mechanics are so garbage

[vale compass]

or just you know drop synth items in synth maps...

[limber lance]

Im not even to hyped abt a new or reqorked leaguemechanic but more abt atlas and endgame changes

[stray sedge]

the chart was a super easy fix. All you needed were the puzzle pieces to be universal, not randomly 1 to 4 directions, maybe find 4-5 of them and then run them in a row

[vale compass]

and harvest/birds are no longer main source of synth items

[torn forge]

Clunky is putting it lightly

[halcyon prawn]

saw someone say the teaser is based on scarabs flavor text about the "Order of the Djinn". https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Order_of_the_Djinn

i mean, the "Order of the Djinn" has lore written in the scarabs' flavor text

so it could be sanctum 2.0, or maybe something different

[torn forge]

Still want a Perandus rework

[opal ingot]

anyone got a phrecia 5 link bench XD

[torn forge]

I miss Perandus

It was def outdated but it was still a cool mechanic, they could probably do a lot with the concept

[opal ingot]

screw it we fusing this

time for scuffed eb daugher of oshabi

[limber lance]

I doubt that of all the tings they would rework sanctum. Might be but other mechanics need it more. I think it might just be lore related

[grave vine]

Anyone have a good guess on league mech?

[limber lance]

Something djinn/desert related with a instanced or time based mechanic with a countdown or something

[grave vine]

Trials

[crisp obsidian]

No one has a good guess on it, we don't have enough teasers yet

Anyone can make a guess but they wont be good ones

[halcyon prawn]

yea, i thought it would be because of the connection to poe2's trial of the sekhemas, which is just sanctum 2.0, but i agree that it's probably something else, in-map related possibly

[grave vine]

Every map now have a gauntlet from poe2 Trials of suck ma ash

[earnest raven]

Its probably delirium league with extra steps

[dense rock]

"delirium level raises by 1% every map player runs in a row without over 1minute breaks"

[whole bluff]

what if I take a break inside the map?

[crisp obsidian]

Then you get banned mr chovi

[whole bluff]

meh

🐟

[ornate patrol]

took off questionable keystone in someones pob

ehp doubled

[crisp obsidian]

Show

[ornate patrol]

https://pobb.in/SwBJlrzCLWsG