1┃general

[bold scarab]

you used to be able to use EK untill bladefall ... but then ggg decided to screw over EK with the transfigured system and move the lingering blades bit to a trans skill

[opal ingot]

can i have 10 mirror sansshoto

[frigid wedge]

im asking the same thing sage

i need to make 5 for a standard project somehow

[opal ingot]

int stacking tornado shot

[frigid wedge]

so prob gonna spam blights

on keepes

[opal ingot]

my standard project is finishing int stacking ts on 3.28 and bringing that to standard

[grizzled lily]

tree poops out good currency kek

[opal ingot]

can i even grind that much on 3.28...

[frigid wedge]

my desired standard project is 5 million mana

:3

need 10k flat mana

[final owl]

how can you decide how much grinding you will do in 3.28 before knowing what the mechanic will be :I

[fossil mural]

Weakest std build

[frigid wedge]

yes

[native token]

ill open many strongboxes

in 3.28

[celest bone]

3.28 better be the most dopamine filled league ever i stg

[final owl]

but what if 3.28 is reworked strongbox league and it does to strongboxes what keepers did to breach :x

[brazen vector]

3.28 removes mapping

we all go to the mines

[native token]

i hope for necroplice or tota like

[fossil mural]

They said no rework leg next time

[native token]

just not such bullshit like affliction

[brazen vector]

the only reward is a ranking on a leaderboard for how much ore you mined

[final owl]

I will accept necropolis without the CAR-SIZE OBJECTS I MUST CONSTANTLY PICK UP AND STORE

i still have a little ptsd

[native token]

wasnt that bad

i loved it

[final owl]

i hated it. I tried to like it

[fossil mural]

You are a man of interesting opinions

[final owl]

i bought 4 quad tabs. i had zero quad tabs before that

[native token]

necro was one of the best leagues they ever made in my opinion

[brazen vector]

I bought 8 quads due to necro xd

[pulsar dune]

Did you play week 1-ish?

[opal ingot]

when i touched t17s the first time in 3.24, i gave up lol

[native token]

i played close to 4 month

[brazen vector]

having to buy coffins was kinda crazy

[native token]

in necro

[opal ingot]

shouldn't have played LA tbh

[final owl]

to be fair coffins would be much less painful with async

but still

[brazen vector]

Barrel and Go, I miss you

[native token]

i played ssf in necro

never touched trade

[opal ingot]

if i went inof in 3.24 i would've played it to the end

i think

[pulsar dune]

Release Necro was horrific, T17s without reward mods, 1c per coffin, low cap of corpses

[opal ingot]

how would ggg make the necro mechanic smoother to use

[pulsar dune]

You also got only T17 mods

[opal ingot]

dont say breach tree XD

[final owl]

at very least "coffins" can take up a single item slot and no more.

[pulsar dune]

It was fine in its week 2-ish state

[native token]

im fine with a tota like mechanic aswell

something out of maps

[opal ingot]

maybe part of the reason of the bloat was that you couldn't stack similar effects because they were different species

[native token]

tota was piek poe aswell

[opal ingot]

and the different species can be boosted by corpses that boost species effects

[pulsar dune]

Graveyard being complex is fine

[fossil mural]

Cant wait to see your reaction to poe2 tota then

[brazen vector]

instead of having to plant the corpses, you get to plant them in a window instead with an overview of all plots, they get put into the graveyard and when all are set you talk to the undertaker and GG

[native token]

temple was allready sick

i cant wait what they release 3-4 weeks after poe1 in poe2

[pulsar dune]

The pain with release Necro was that you just had bad corpses overlapping your screen when mapping

Oh also, tier rating being per-tag

[opal ingot]

im fine with the complexity, but i think it would be neat if they can keep the QOL or clicking clean

if u get what i mean

[native token]

the best part about necro was the planning of your garden

[pulsar dune]

I think they got it tbh

[final owl]

necro was just too much for me. too much faff. too much click. too much manage a million similar looking but differently names things. somehow know what is valuable and not. idk

[pulsar dune]

With async trade GY crafting would be fine in its month 3 state

[brazen vector]

having a top down view of the graveyard instead would have helped me

[pulsar dune]

Hm, fair fair

[split maple]

ffs

[opal ingot]

lolllllllllllll

u got divines

[final owl]

i think something as simple as that ^^ would have made me less angsty

[opal ingot]

or are your dex rolls maxed out alr

tbh idk if i should be making opinions on necro

started in 3.23, so the novelty of being a first time player kind of worn off

top of it being ignorant of most of the game mechanics

[final owl]

i am fine with complexity it's just a bit much to combine high complexity with low QoL gameplay elements

[split maple]

yea i think we can fix that

[past mantle]

I hope we get a complex league one day.

[split maple]

i am now at the point of pobing totaly realistic abyssals

realistic i swear

[opal ingot]

but yeah, ultimately if they introduce high complex stuff, i just want them to REALLY focus on qol

for that complexity

[final owl]

yes. please make the pain the sweet pain of figuring a thing out and not battling with the UI or clicking 6 million additional times. please

[split maple]

okay we saving two passives now

[worldly bridge]

🤤 man i love women

[celest bone]

if only they loved you back

[opal ingot]

ok so 5 t3s is equal to 1 t4 (besides the boss frag) so that's like

19 t3s vs 22 t3s

i dont want to do the math on the average profit of boss frag dropping

[worldly bridge]

i have 98% not wilt

[opal ingot]

oh

phrecia stuff

[worldly bridge]

xdd

[opal ingot]

XDDD

[worldly bridge]

yeah LMAO

MMMMM

[opal ingot]

sigh

why is this event 3weeks

[worldly bridge]

9k from the 2 boss plot

20k total

[frigid wedge]

winning

[worldly bridge]

this means i got more juice from the 17 t3's

interesting

[celest bone]

harvest is so nice but my god is it boring

[opal ingot]

on average yeah, but does your idols have any stuff like "chance to double juice"

cuz the difference is crazy

[worldly bridge]

uhh i dont remeber rn

i have a little bit i thikn

[opal ingot]

how could you not remember, a true juice lover memorizes all his idol and atlas setups

[split maple]

can some magician trim me 3 passive points so i can take arcane focus and 10% mana small? https://pobb.in/igLYbV7MaXiQ

[opal ingot]

damn seems really optimized though

haveu tried levelling to 103

[frigid wedge]

y e s

[frigid wedge]

why do you have 2 runegrafts of refraction

[split maple]

One is on the old pathing

Unalocated but pob is weird

[celest bone]

i just wanna blast

[frigid wedge]

i wanna see the loot

i the whole map

[celest bone]

keepers has loot?

i dont remember my last raw divine from a monster tbh

[frigid wedge]

lmao

thats why u farm scarabs

[celest bone]

i have been calling it pot of exile for a while now

[final owl]

in ~700k kills i have not seen more than a few raw div drops

[opal ingot]

harvest

i love you

with all my heart

[frigid wedge]

nemesis

i love you

with all my heart

[opal ingot]

like the scarab?

[celest bone]

femboys...

[frigid wedge]

femboys are good

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-5891938834636927331

[celest bone]

omg neighbours dog is barking

pls shut up

[frigid wedge]

he dislikes femboys

[frigid wedge]

cassie why are u in dissapproval

[celest bone]

hmm i think i may be getting tired of poe league

[lilac parcel]

this shit aint working in vaal atziri map

[frigid wedge]

its not guaranteed

[opal ingot]

come to terraria for a bit

play vanilla then modded

[lilac parcel]

it hasant open any chest nothing

[celest bone]

i dont like terraria

[opal ingot]

then sink into a rabbit hole of calamity bossrush until you devolve the game into pure mindless bossrushing

[celest bone]

i was thinking of playing that diablo 2

[final owl]

D2R or just d2

[celest bone]

uhh the latest one on steam

[worldly bridge]

i guess im done farming with woke bugs

[celest bone]

oop

[final owl]

bargain at twice the price i'm sure

[celest bone]

i couldnt buy my legion scarabs anymore

😔

[split maple]

fracture the funny temple mod -> slap hollow fossil on glove = can drop one power charge 🤔

why do i feel like this is getting slightly ssf unfriendly

[worldly bridge]

well chat

since farming a MB in the 7 days i have left doesnt seem reasonable unless prices go down, what do i do

before 328

[frigid wedge]

you farm it anyway!

[worldly bridge]

woke bugs are 200 c, divines are 208, i get like 2 div a map

[frigid wedge]

just map faster 5head

[stuck phoenix]

Finish farming it in keepers

[worldly bridge]

i get like a single divine a map then

[stuck phoenix]

Or did you already

[worldly bridge]

this is phrecia

[frigid wedge]

u could do the jun stuff

[stuck phoenix]

I said finish

[worldly bridge]

so my build bricks in standard

aristocrat

[frigid wedge]

how does energy blade brick

[worldly bridge]

its jiquanis

[stuck phoenix]

Ok save up to fix the build after you migrate to keepers

[frigid wedge]

how does jiquanis brick

[worldly bridge]

i lose dreadful attitude

[frigid wedge]

arent u just int stacking

[worldly bridge]

all my inc damage is gone

[frigid wedge]

theres

[worldly bridge]

i end up with only flat

[frigid wedge]

an attribute mastery

its eh but its flat

[stable pumice]

Mannnn

[frigid wedge]

but u can def adapt it to work

[worldly bridge]

yeah mastery gives me 1

attitude gives me 8

i could farm it on my rf chief

[final owl]

oshabi kf has been fun but i guess i just go back to my keepers flicker or the lifestack inquis i was building

[frigid wedge]

ill probably finish gearing the shrine stacker on keepers

just bc i cba in phrecia

[final owl]

i don't think i'd try to convert this to another ascend

[frigid wedge]

the cons path of endurance doesnt even change

it just loses ehp

and 2 endurance

1*

[stable pumice]

Anyone here knows what one wears for job interviews xD

[frigid wedge]

clothes

[stable pumice]

.... What kind xD

[final owl]

kinda depends on the job dunnit

[stable pumice]

I mean sys admin xD

[frigid wedge]

formal blazer, smart shirt, suitable skirt(with tights)/trousers for any corporate type shit

and probs a tie

[final owl]

probably some difference applying for a finance role vs burger jockey

[opal ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/byGtfe0poyA

[frigid wedge]

if ur tryna do service work or smth u literally just pull up and dont look homeless

[stable pumice]

Bcs right now my idea is tshirt + jacket

[opal ingot]

just thought of this

[frigid wedge]

nah obv you should wear ur most flattering dress man

show off those hips

[stable pumice]

But thanks for the ideas XD

[frigid wedge]

my original statement was a serious one

[stable pumice]

Aughh 1h 20 mins till the interview x.x

[frigid wedge]

this

[native abyss]

i put on my wizard hat and robes

[opal ingot]

if you can, show your pobs of your past leagues

it lets the interviewers know that if you waste this much time on a video game minmaxxing you can also minmaxx the job

or some shit like that

[frigid wedge]

me pulling up to the job interview in the most revealing items i own just to prove a point

[native abyss]

what point are you proving

[frigid wedge]

that im hot

[native abyss]

[stable pumice]

XD

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[stable pumice]

Ah yes gonna roll in with magebloods huh

[celest bone]

[final owl]

assless chaps + mageblood. interview power move.

[native abyss]

pause

[frigid wedge]

do you approve

[celest bone]

i approve of the mageblood

not the assless one

[native abyss]

headhunter is better than mageblood

[stable pumice]

Alright so, tuxedo jacket , t-shirt and random jeans xD i think is my fit

[heady cliff]

dont forget flasks

[frigid wedge]

i meant do you approve of my point

[celest bone]

hh saved me this league

[frigid wedge]

to prove

[frigid wedge]

hh my baby

[celest bone]

i didnt see your point i was playing with my kittens

[native abyss]

i only need 30 more divine orbs and i’ll have my own headhunter

[frigid wedge]

my keepers build has two

[celest bone]

[frigid wedge]

kbity

[stable pumice]

Idk i never liked HH just bcs of shroud walker mod alone

[native abyss]

what level are the cats

[celest bone]

umm like 4

[native abyss]

nice...

[celest bone]

they still on act 1

🥺

[frigid wedge]

awww

[native abyss]

not even act 2

[celest bone]

they playing with my older cat

[stable pumice]

So in no time they will be act 10

[celest bone]

hes wearing mirror tier gear

[native abyss]

wait real

[frigid wedge]

me swapping between soul eater and normal depending on the content

[celest bone]

ye he has 10 frenzy, power and end charges

[stable pumice]

Wait till they find out gear mirroring.

[frigid wedge]

hes a slayer?

[celest bone]

i hope they know about cold res rings...

🥺

[stable pumice]

Or in fact any res rings huh

[native abyss]

spending all of my divine orbs

lets see if we hit

[frigid wedge]

so many

[celest bone]

they dont have thumbs so i worry

[split maple]

how much of pain is grabing perfect tiger? prolly just rushing kotm, right?

[celest bone]

[frigid wedge]

push their paw pad and put it on they finger

[celest bone]

also what was your point @frigid wedge

[frigid wedge]

read from this

[native abyss]

wtf is this game

[celest bone]

im not sure i want to

[frigid wedge]

xD

[native abyss]

650 decks and i got the same tink 4 time

[opal ingot]

hahahaha

side effects of a dead league

[celest bone]

thats not a tink

[native abyss]

and yet, it tinks

[celest bone]

ye the filterblade was fucked this league

[opal ingot]

lesser sales listed in the market so the only ones remaining are teh shitty meme/overpriced ones

and filterblade autoupdates to that

[stable pumice]

You can allways modify yourself

[opal ingot]

it's ESPECIALLY worse on late league hardcore

[celest bone]

i do but its a pain

[opal ingot]

yeah there should be "stable" versions of the update

[celest bone]

i just wanna blast

[opal ingot]

so u dont hve to manually do it. idk if that works though

[celest bone]

[stable pumice]

I accidently modified mine to not do any thinks on scarabs xD

[opal ingot]

yeah even on an alive league, some tinks are just bad

[stable pumice]

I am lazy to fix it

[opal ingot]

0.5d for a tink? hell nah

get the hell out

[native abyss]

i guess i will wait for the next patch

[stable pumice]

So challanges?

[native abyss]

no one logs in it's kinda sad, global is always dead

[stable pumice]

How many u got

[opal ingot]

yeah do challenges and achievements

[celest bone]

i wish i could hack somebodys filter blade and hide all tinks

[frigid wedge]

i had a tink for a card worth 1/5 of a chaos for a FULL STACK this league

[stable pumice]

Which card

[celest bone]

sulphite card got me a lot

[stable pumice]

Well that's full stack

That's different

[celest bone]

i should grind

but do i care

[split maple]

surely i can rely on forest tiger for frenzy charge uptime right 🥺 saves 4 passives https://pobb.in/MJ2ZIkwyS5m5

[native abyss]

I thought tink was anything over like 50c

[sly minnow]

the best rf build goes to this ascendancy notable

[native abyss]

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[celest bone]

always tinks and never twinks 😔

[frigid wedge]

por que no los dos

[celest bone]

si si

[frigid wedge]

the day jay finds a boywife is the day we solve world peace

[stoic horizon]

wasnt there someone looking for being one yesterday?

[frigid wedge]

sage was

[stoic horizon]

well guys you know what to do

[frigid wedge]

SAGEEEEE

i think sage wanted to get paid

so u gotta b his sugar daddy

[split maple]

there is no way to automate frenzy gem on wands is there?

[frigid wedge]

no

[stoic horizon]

dont think so

[frigid wedge]

not the gem

[stoic horizon]

mana-forged wands when

[frigid wedge]

spellslinger

[stoic horizon]

but thats for spells

give us attack slinger and call it idk slingerslinger

[frigid wedge]

its close enough

[split maple]

i am slightly annoyed by lack of options to get frenzies there

like either i waste 4 passives or i cope on tiger

[opal ingot]

to clarify , ijust meant working on housekeeping, not being a boywife XD

[celest bone]

😭 i was doing harby and come back to this

[frigid wedge]

what if they're a sugar (person) to you

[split maple]

sage you are finishing uni soon

you need to think bout your options

[frigid wedge]

such as being a boywife

[celest bone]

i think sans is projecting their need to be a boywife ngl

[split maple]

Jay

why settle on one boywife

[frigid wedge]

i can be both types of wife

.-.

i havent chosen which yet

[opal ingot]

i can't be too picky in this economy

[celest bone]

i just want a aurabot wife

[frigid wedge]

fair

[sly minnow]

i was today years old when I learned that brutus in act 6 has a leap slam

[brazen vector]

Good thing I have an aurabot and a carry switch with me

This time we both played non supports

But somehow both minions

[frigid wedge]

alesia and her boywife

Both wife

xD

[worldly bridge]

Poe partycule when

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

today

we start polycule in the poe disc

[brazen vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/175005585203396622/1471466053790994535/quote_1471465873880383662.png?ex=698f090d&is=698db78d&hm=f19f22b7b87b3ed0cee11d4289207e60bbd723c7751063c28c6cf54cba47f47a&

Uhm, ignore that

Definitely not sending it to my boywife

[worldly bridge]

Uh huh

[frigid wedge]

why is it a powerpoint slide

[brazen vector]

Quoteme bot

[frigid wedge]

ohhhh

was wondering how sm of pfp showed

maybe i should shift it up

I forgot about her hands

[brazen vector]

I mean, it saves the whole file

[frigid wedge]

true

[frigid wedge]

u should

[brazen vector]

Youre lucky it wasn't a nude

Definitely not me having cropped porn at some point as my pfp and have it uncovered by the bot

[frigid wedge]

what

no

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

i took it from a Pinterest folder

[brazen vector]

I know

[frigid wedge]

and i dont save nude shit

[frigid wedge]

fym

[brazen vector]

[worldly bridge]

Straight Trans couples smiling devilishly in the corner

[brazen vector]

You have brought it up at some point

[worldly bridge]

Anyway poe

And sleep

[brazen vector]

I should continue leveling

[ornate patrol]

@opaque sphinx whats the jun idol setup

[brazen vector]

Jun chance 100%
Leader chance
Extra rank chance 200%
60 intel per completed map

[ornate patrol]

the idol plug

thanks big dawg

[frigid wedge]

i used to have a problem jeez

[worldly bridge]

60 intel per map what yhe fuck

[ornate patrol]

so is it just rushing safehouses or building smth?

[brazen vector]

Conqueror idols and its all for the same safehouse

[ornate patrol]

cus i dont fkin know whats going on after the rework

[brazen vector]

Thats my setup, I sprinkled in some DP stuff

[frigid wedge]

courtesy of moi

[brazen vector]

Who is moo

Moi

Autocorrect smh

[frigid wedge]

me

[brazen vector]

Paired with duo breach bosses its giga profitable

[frigid wedge]

[brazen vector]

And if you run the fragments yourself you can drop indigoons,woke orbs etc

• maven invitations stuff

Woke gems

[frigid wedge]

dp gaming

[ornate patrol]

dp?

[frigid wedge]

destructive play

[celest bone]

im a nice guy

[ornate patrol]

o

[celest bone]

[ornate patrol]

unfortunately my build is tragic so i aint doin that

[brazen vector]

stongs

[frigid wedge]

stonks

[brazen vector]

but my favourite farm is obv this one

[opal ingot]

i wonder if it's 100% to get +1 rank and another 4% for another +1 rank

[brazen vector]

yep

actually no

they only get 2 ranks

[ornate patrol]

adorned farm?

[brazen vector]

they spawn with 1 star either way

[brazen vector]

yea

[ornate patrol]

ur a psycho

[brazen vector]

I know :D

[ornate patrol]

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

shes cool like that

[brazen vector]

ah fuck I forgot I had a level 6 woke spell echo listed

oops

[ornate patrol]

true give it to me instead

[brazen vector]

sadly it just sold

[ornate patrol]

[frigid wedge]

give him the divines

[brazen vector]

fastest belt in the west?

[celest bone]

chat give me a weird jewel i can use for kinetic fusilade

[frigid wedge]

wdym a weird jewel

[stable pumice]

The pacifist

[frigid wedge]

lmao

fragility

[stable pumice]

Watchers eye with 3 perfect mods

[split maple]

hidden potential

[celest bone]

like something freaky

[stable pumice]

Corrupted with cb

[celest bone]

[stable pumice]

Freaky?

Hollow palm jewel

[celest bone]

lmao no im jk with that

[ornate patrol]

i just found a funny

go to kirac

[celest bone]

stinky

[ornate patrol]

and click atlas respecialisation

[brazen vector]

thanks lily

[frigid wedge]

that one jewel with dmg per curse on you

[stable pumice]

Aughh 18 mins till job interview

Lowkey scared lol

[ornate patrol]

im scared for u

[split maple]

take it easy, have fun

good luck 😄

[brazen vector]

you can do it

wait wtf

I dotn need woke swift affliction!

[stable pumice]

XD

Man I'm scared only bcs it's my first ever job interview a.k.a other places i worked i never needed to do them

[brazen vector]

tfw your tainted fusing hits first try

and the colours are correct from the 6 socket recipe first try too!

[stable pumice]

Sounds like fever dream

[celest bone]

meh youll be fine

[stable pumice]

Hope so xD

[celest bone]

just make sure you remember to set your auras before going in

[stable pumice]

Sry i got only curses

[celest bone]

and dont roll reflect

[stable pumice]

With blasphemy support

[brazen vector]

:/ I sold all my enduring composures

[celest bone]

walk into interview, speak a word and die

stupid reflect

[ornate patrol]

30div build and it took 6 portals for poorjoys

[split maple]

how much mana do i rly need unreserved for indigion? like is 3k enough?

was eyebaling 5k until now

[ornate patrol]

yeah im never playing spark again unless they buff it

[celest bone]

you truly are your pfp

[brazen vector]

mine did it when it was barely held together with a 20c rare weapon on my AG

[ornate patrol]

gratz

[normal hedge]

lmao spark

[celest bone]

i tried spark but it doesnt have that oompf feeling

[tight plinth]

buffing spark

[celest bone]

its like patting enemies to death

im so going slam again next league

[frigid wedge]

oomf w spark

[normal hedge]

spark is good just need coc comet from poe2

[ornate patrol]

my ehp rn is probably like 17

[celest bone]

i dont like coc tbh

[frigid wedge]

the oomf w spark is the gpu oomf

[celest bone]

ooo migraine

[elfin igloo]

I want to pick up PoE again. Where shoulld I look for builds?

[brazen vector]

praise tree

[normal hedge]

!guides

[covert swan]

A short list of places to find builds for new players:

Maxroll.GG's leaguestarter buildguide section has high quality build guides

If you are more into video guides, a playlist by the youtuber Zizaran, he also has a bunch of other video guides for new players.

A collection of minion build guides created/ curated by GhazzyTV

You can also always find popular builds on the Builds section of Poe.ninja, but those aren't really guides, just snapshots of live player builds without any explanation for what makes them good or not good.

[leaden gust]

oh ye i need to look up the crafting trees for keeper tree again. cant remember how they should look

[ornate patrol]

like 200-300d budget btw

[ornate patrol]

welp lesson learned i guess

[normal hedge]

how

16k phys max hit is way more than you need to do 1 portal poorjoy

[frigid wedge]

my nearly 1mir build in keepers is squishier

[normal hedge]

sounds like immortal call is on and you only have idk 5k instead

[warm musk]

Pls help with my self cook standard character once the league ends https://pobb.in/ZyijZkcCCgbZ

[ornate patrol]

no thats the endgame pob

no immortal call

[normal hedge]

ah

[ornate patrol]

and people in comments saying very comfy build

yeah my ass

[normal hedge]

paidviewers

[ornate patrol]

what grafts do i even run for spark

[frigid wedge]

why so little mana

[ornate patrol]

tornado?

[warm musk]

I'm poor

[normal hedge]

is it surfcaster?

[ornate patrol]

ya

[normal hedge]

idk prolly the one that has cold pen prefix and a defensive one

[frigid wedge]

how much is ur max mans without reservation

[normal hedge]

oh theres proj speed

[warm musk]

I'm only reserving a level 1 clarity for the legacy mod

so that's all of it

[icy zinc]

shaper slam tank

[normal hedge]

60% proj speed sounds good

[icy zinc]

[warm musk]

https://pobb.in/FnHuL62Emxdr

running march of the legion mb lol

[sly minnow]

is it just me
or vaal rf and base rf dot doesnt stack

[frigid wedge]

i mean its strong

[sly minnow]

i felt like im only dealing whichever is higher among the 2 if mobs are within range of both

[frigid wedge]

but u could get way more mana by int stacking harder

or smth

[warm musk]

Problem is getting flat lightning damage. Idk if manstorm is ok for it though

[Not even sure if the pob is correct https://pobb.in/SUdQSfG3JEEV

[frigid wedge]

try adorned with flat mana jewels instead of the genius clusters

u dont need % mana

u have 5500% inc mana

just get flat with adorned jewels

abyss ones

[warm musk]

I need stubborn student though

for 100m armour

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[warm musk]

which is basically the source of the % increase via replica dreamfeather

[frigid wedge]

thats fine

[warm musk]

Went with stubborn student + openness as those are cheap and I was able to snag a few in keepers

[frigid wedge]

replace the megslos with genius tho

oh wait

i thought u were stacking them

wait what are u actually trying to do with the megalos

what are they doing for u

[warm musk]

my "mid budget" I tihnk would be genius + stubborn student and the end game would be stubborn student + willshaper

[warm musk]

They give me 100m armour

[frigid wedge]

ok but how

[warm musk]

• 100k es

x7 of these

or 6

[frigid wedge]

bleh

try replacing

half the megalos

with adorned

setup

or just way more int in the manastorm setup

[warm musk]

Where do I get % increased damage in the manastorm set up tho?

The mirror tier dagger + indigon? Haven't played w a manastorm before so I have no clue

[frigid wedge]

if u get more mana by a factor of like 5

then all the stuff u need it to scale scale better anyway

[frigid wedge]

u still have a dreamfeather

[finite quail]

such a meh node

[frigid wedge]

ur halving the armour per mana but ur multiplying the amount of mana by way more than 2x if u invest harder into FLAT MANA

so u end up with more total armour

[warm musk]

Thank you for the idea, I'll try to make a pob with that one. Seems crazy expensive tho

and a bit tedious

[frigid wedge]

if ur gonna mess with 5500% inc mana u need to invest in having mana

[limber lance]

maybe first 3.28 teasers today`?

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge

[frigid wedge]

nice

[ornate patrol]

@brazen vector are all idols (except the 2x2s) the smol 1x1 ones?

for jun

[brazen vector]

no

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[ornate patrol]

i only see the additional rank/accompanied by leader on the minor idols

[brazen vector]

ah right, I got those on 1x1 with extra conq maps

thats what confused me

[ornate patrol]

does the additional rank do anything above 100%?

[normal hedge]

no

[stable pumice]

Well well well it seems like i landed the job xD

[ornate patrol]

holy

gratz

[stable pumice]

Interview was awkward tho xD

Bcs the main guy apparently is someone i knew from 2 years ago

[frigid wedge]

drop the fit

we gotta know

[ornate patrol]

err i havent unlocked kingsmarch yet lul

where

get

[frigid wedge]

a6

[ornate patrol]

yipee

[brazen vector]

how do I kill hexproof

[normal hedge]

iirc impending doom works on hexproof monsters

[frigid wedge]

u still hex them

it just has 0 curse effect

[normal hedge]

but the curses wont do anything

[brazen vector]

so they still blow up

kelw

kewl

[frigid wedge]

ye

[normal hedge]

issue is you have 40% less drop in fortress

because you cant break the barrels

🥀

[brazen vector]

flamedash

[normal hedge]

using you brain while you farm?

no ty

[frigid wedge]

u have enough default aoe to Pop most of them

my herald build dies to barrels bc of herald of the hive

🥀

[brazen vector]

but why use 4 courses when I can only use 3?

[elfin sable]

have many rare items for starter, can add me

[frigid wedge]

ur overriding

so that u don't wait for duration to expire

it just replaces it

[brazen vector]

okay then I understand why overlap is important

[frigid wedge]

yeye

what order are ur curses in vixens

its important

[brazen vector]

enfeeble, despair, punishment

[frigid wedge]

iirc

[brazen vector]

good thing I bought 1250 vaal orbs then, gotta recolour my gloves :>

[frigid wedge]

what is on them

[brazen vector]

+2 aoe

[frigid wedge]

fair

[elder marlin]

now double corrupt it

[frigid wedge]

i used those

[elder marlin]

also, not overqual and no "sells more to npc"

[frigid wedge]

cba

the highest overqual on market was 27 and i had planned to replace w better anyway

no one picks up embroidered gloves

[brazen vector]

which bbd did you use?

[frigid wedge]

merc league not current

[elder marlin]

then why waste an awakeners

[frigid wedge]

cdrr shaper and i bought taken as hunter for a later swap but never made the swap

[ornate patrol]

is there smth close quarters like toxic sewers but more linear?

[frigid wedge]

iirc was waiting for market to have other stuff i wanted

[split maple]

abonimation

joking aside, silo?

[ornate patrol]

hmm

[elder marlin]

i mean u r correct

abom is gud

[ornate patrol]

i guess

ah fuk its t15 with 3 watchstones

silo that is

[split maple]

its a bit large for my taste tbh

and feels empty no matter what you do with it

[ornate patrol]

build too ass for uba elda

[frigid wedge]

i had a lot of crafting aspirations for the build but i wasnt enjoying endlessly farming abyss

so we have some unfinished bits

[elder marlin]

thats bc u havent juiced enough

[frigid wedge]

oh fun fact alesia

@brazen vector

u better avoid abomination map

bc if u dont kill the bosses in a specific order u have permanent doedre totems

impending doom cant hit totems

unless smth nearby explodes and its caught in the aoe

[split maple]

not rly

it has the worst density of t17

[elder marlin]

ik yea

[split maple]

like compare /kills before and after similarly juiced abo and fort

[elder marlin]

but u can still juice it to decent level

[split maple]

i just safe them for when i want to run harvest

[elder marlin]

the boss is also a joke

[brazen vector]

so youre saying I should use a wormflask for that case

[frigid wedge]

no

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

im not

im saying you carry around soulrend or avoid ritual and abomination

[brazen vector]

sounds like a worm flask scenario to me

[frigid wedge]

it really isnt

[warm musk]

I just realized don't I just deal 0 damage at 2.4b avg hit?

[frigid wedge]

no it just caps out per hit iirc?

[elder marlin]

no

iirc the cap is only for dot

[frigid wedge]

theres a damage cap

[split maple]

There is hit cap too

[elder marlin]

and damage per second generally

[ornate patrol]

@brazen vector do i have to do t16s for jun?

[frigid wedge]

but i think its aroudn 60b

[brazen vector]

t14+ for DP (which I do)

[warm musk]

It's the same as hp cap which is around 2.1b I think

[brazen vector]

also I guess safehouse level determines loot too

[frigid wedge]

thats per hit

u can hit 33 times in a second

[hoary scarab]

pretty sure there is a bug rn where it deals no dmg if you overflow

[split maple]

2.147.483.647 per hit per wiki

[hoary scarab]

atleast with dots, i assume hit would be the same tho

[split maple]

Everyone and their mother when doing mamba overflows dot cap

Since they optimize for Uber dot cap

[frigid wedge]

it just caps out and stops

[split maple]

So they go over dot cap on basic mobs

[warm musk]

So I just try to stay below 2b hit damage and try to scale attack speed

[split maple]

They still do dmg

[hoary scarab]

there very much is a dot cap bug rn tho

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt really matter

for hits

[hoary scarab]

ive hit it with rf in keepers

[split maple]

What

[elder marlin]

i wish dot cap is remove or atleast make it 2.1b dot cap

[frigid wedge]

2b average hit rf

yooo

[hoary scarab]

where my rf just stopped dealing dmg if i got too much ES through HH buffs

[tranquil sedge]

just how much es could you possibly get from hh buffs

coz hitting dot cap on rf is giga difficult

[hoary scarab]

i got like 20k extra at some point

[frigid wedge]

i get to 9k es on my build with hh

[split maple]

how much was your baseline rf dps tho

[frigid wedge]

has under 2k

norm

[split maple]

and like that shouldnt be related to dot cap, should be rf specific bug

[loud furnace]

why my any of the the items in normal leauge aint selling is leauge dead and everyone in phercia?

[split maple]

since mambas go over dot cap on the regular

[tranquil sedge]

keepers has been kinda dead for weeks now

[brazen vector]

mine was double the dot cap

[tranquil sedge]

phrecia only made the problem bigger

if u want an active economy just wait for 3.28

[hoary scarab]

https://youtu.be/qlMYyMb7s0o?si=mSrzODW1c6RboN3Q
was using this build, but with a lot less investment

[tranquil sedge]

and if u want to farm currency now in keepers, do things that sell on faustus rather than via merchant tab

[loud furnace]

i need to sell my mageblood so i can build my final built but no one buying it 🙁

[frigid wedge]

seen eviscerate in merc with like 400m potential uncapped dot

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

and a herald of ash with like 3trillion dps potential or smth without cap

[brazen vector]

herald of ass

speaking of which, I need to put a herald metx on my hoag

[frigid wedge]

but it da best one

[tranquil sedge]

a giga expensive build with a 20/0 main rf skill

lmao

[split maple]

not taking 0.3 metre base radious is kinda crazy

[tranquil sedge]

its not like the creator doesn't understand gem levels coz a lot of them are +level

but yea that much radius missing is wild

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-ben-well-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-well-of-course-i-know-her-gif-6865314368582054387

[tranquil sedge]

its 0.5m lol

its nuts to leave that on the table

[frigid wedge]

what

how does this relate ro hoa

[brazen vector]

I am the herald of ass

[split maple]

?

[tranquil sedge]

idk try putting 20 qual in the pob and see

it says +0.5

i didnt investigate further lol

[frigid wedge]

you are an omen of ass?

[brazen vector]

where I go, ass follows

[frigid wedge]

hmm

that is how

walking works

[tranquil sedge]

i saw that edit

[tranquil sedge]

ah its from his extra aoe modifiers

its 0.3m from 20q that gets scaled another 63% -> 0.5m

[frigid wedge]

shh

the letters are next to each other

i missed

i click w far too oftwn

shit

surprised i missed it

[tranquil sedge]

indwwd

[frigid wedge]

5 years of my old phone so now i cant fucking type to save my fuckin life on this screen

i have to retype half me 5damn messages

[tranquil sedge]

i hate typing on phones too

its too slow and effortge

pc anyday baby phones are only for reading

[frigid wedge]

lul

[noble sleet]

Do caster builds typically outperform melee builds?

[pulsar dune]

No, both the meta and the median "just taking relevant stats" builds favor melee attacks (as in attacking with melee weapons)

[fossil mural]

I like how you specified

[crimson hearth]

how do i craft specific mods on a cluster

[split maple]

melee attacks (as in attacking with melee weapons (as in gems with attack and melee tag))

melee attacks (as in attacking with melee weapons (as in gems with attack and melee tag (except the bad ones)))

[split maple]

depends on which ones you want

[fossil mural]

resonators maybe?

[split maple]

its harvest, fossils or suffering

[fossil mural]

harvest seems bad cause dont jewel mods have like

all the same tags

[split maple]

not rly

for some clusters its like rly freebie to hit

[pulsar dune]

Hey, spectral Helix and lightning strike only differ by one of them being fun and the other bouncing off of walls

Many 2 notable mediums are harvest reforges

[fossil mural]

not the case in poo2 sadge

so

lmao

[split maple]

for the image you just deleted alt+aug+regal looks very sane

[crimson hearth]

this one i meant small diffrence ik

[fossil mural]

btw you saw? 0.5 might launch 1.5 months after 3.28

[pulsar dune]

Do you actually need the attributes?

[crimson hearth]

theres on selling for 1d should i js buy

[split maple]

1d sounds to me sweeter than spaming 300 alts

[crimson hearth]

i mean kinda not rly tho

[pulsar dune]

184 chaos on avg

Probably a bit less in cold reforges

Don't remember how much a cold reforge is

[pulsar dune]

Assuming ilvl 68 base

[split maple]

pretty much all notables have cold tag there tho

[fossil mural]

just buy it

like

this isnt worth the effort

[crimson hearth]

il js buy

[pulsar dune]

Yea, unless 1d is a lot for you just buy

[crimson hearth]

ofc not

[pulsar dune]

Clusters are more of a profit craft more often than not

[crimson hearth]

i never tried using clusters so im js experimenting tbh

[split maple]

on topic of clusters - this wand cluster looks to me like 400 critical reforges

any other way?

[crimson hearth]

doing a bv build rn its hard to progress so might aswell

[crimson hearth]

crit nodes?

[split maple]

fusilade has crit tag yea

[finite quail]

Fossils

Harvest reforging/auging

Can't think of anything else

[pulsar dune]

Chaos spam

[fossil mural]

iding unid clusters

[finite quail]

That's not specific

[split maple]

its specific when used enough

like its not the worst way to go about idk mine clusters

or to get that bloody sadist to fracture

bloodscent too

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge with woke spell echo Id lose AoE over regular spell echo O,O

[split maple]

did sebk rly lock-vaal his gloves

[noble sleet]

Has lightning always been op in this game? I feel like lightning always trumps the rest for some reason lol

[brazen vector]

yes

[split maple]

thats starting to feel ssf unfriendly

[pulsar dune]

It varies, but often yeah, since it's the payoff element for intstack

[frigid wedge]

i mean i didn't use echo anyway

[brazen vector]

I mean cascade

[frigid wedge]

he spent like a month and a half recrafting his mirror gear and then lock vaaling them

[frigid wedge]

yeah but u can get 4 overlaps instead of 2

[split maple]

yea boots are even crazier

[brazen vector]

do they overlap without 5.4m radius

[frigid wedge]

not as many overlaps

[brazen vector]

guess we will try

[frigid wedge]

btw why are u screwing urself over

w the helmet

instead of good shako

the gem scaling from 30 to 35 is like double the flat

[brazen vector]

give money?

[frigid wedge]

dont u have like 150d

[brazen vector]

there is no impending doom 35 on the market

[frigid wedge]

oh trade has NO shakos

wtaf

what are ur supports btw

[limber lance]

how much for a unidd one

[brazen vector]

I wont divine one for 35

[frigid wedge]

yeah dont bother

i thought there were some around

[brazen vector]

woke unbound ailment, woke deadly ailment, spell cascade

[frigid wedge]

yey

[limber lance]

what league yall playing?

bought some shacos unidd

if i hit you get

[finite quail]

why would he lock vaal those mid gloves wtf

[frigid wedge]

go on then

[brazen vector]

phrecia

[finite quail]

for 9% attack speed

[frigid wedge]

bis

[finite quail]

9% attack speed is not worth lock vaaling

[frigid wedge]

he was looking for any beneficial mod

[finite quail]

I'm guessing for curse on hit it might have been worth it

But like

[frigid wedge]

he wasnt looking for specific

[finite quail]

Or frenzy charge ig

[frigid wedge]

he just settled on the first dps increase

[finite quail]

What a waste

[frigid wedge]

mmh

[frigid wedge]

id em and show us

i need to buy some foulborn choirs for standard and dc them tbh

[hybrid harness]

only 2 weeks til livestream

2 weeks of slaving til that sweet nectar

yumm like a bee I bzzzz

bzz all over the screen amirite

[tranquil umbra]

what is that kink dawg

[limber lance]

utter trash XD

lvl 35 cold to fire

27 flamewood

34 rage

32 vile toxins

[frigid wedge]

ouch

[tight plinth]

whats the cold to fire with?

[frigid wedge]

gives him a buzz

[tight plinth]

oh cold to fire doesnt scale that well huh

only 41% at 35, thats balls

[elder marlin]

cold to fire is also mid af

[brazen vector]

maybe I am luckier

[frigid wedge]

smh just win

[bronze falcon]

28 wisdom scrolls is pretty sweet

[tranquil umbra]

just hit lv35 ice bite

alongside fortify

[brazen vector]

29 damage on full life
26 cast on meme kill
25 blasphemy
32 impale
29 urgent orders
27 flamewood
34 returning proj
27 Iron grip
33 expert retaliation????
29 firgid bond
28 cws
31 close combat

[elder marlin]

the best trigger support: cast on DEATH

[bronze falcon]

Death stacker best build

[brazen vector]

the fortify returning proj sounds interesting

[frigid wedge]

cast on melee kill has a hse that i think u would like

alesia

[elder marlin]

molten strike?

[tranquil umbra]

molten strike people already have a nimis smh

[brazen vector]

void manipulation as second

[elder marlin]

i mean returing proj is just nimis on budget

[tranquil umbra]

echoforge gaming

[elder marlin]

[frigid wedge]

ok but its worms

[brazen vector]

ok but its melee :/

[frigid wedge]

its not actually melee

its icicles from camerias avarice

[brazen vector]

so for that stuff has to be frozen

[frigid wedge]

warden

[brazen vector]

as I said, cast on meme kill

[tranquil umbra]

Southbound

[brazen vector]

cast on MEME

[modern zinc]

instead of RF, I think I'm gonna do Rage Vortex inquisitor next league

should be almost the same thing but with a weapon to spice it up

[frigid wedge]

yes

[bronze falcon]

I need a new build for next leage 🙁

[frigid wedge]

come play one of my build choices

they are always poor but funny

[bronze falcon]

Mine too, lol. I've never had a build over 50D

I walys try to play something I haven't played before. Wish i tried autobombers before they got nerfed

[tranquil umbra]

two weapons*

[final owl]

3.28 ward loop league?

[tranquil umbra]

rigwald's savagery or bust

[bronze falcon]

no-button league. Save the fingies

[modern zinc]

Is the +10 max rage really that important?

[frigid wedge]

oh i have a lot of moneys into mine, they're just meme builds that work well enough

[final owl]

it sounds suspiciously like a t17 rework is coming in 3.28. what does that mean for build choice. maybe not much considering we have no idea what they're gonna do

[tranquil umbra]

ok I was thinking of cleave of rage

where the max rage is like cocaine

[bronze falcon]

maybe time for hidden blade meme build

[finite quail]

3.28 16 button league

[final owl]

I think I wanna play something tanky actually. like properly tanky. after following flicker with KF it'd be nice to play a build that is kinda chonky

[bronze falcon]

Noooo, poe2 already gave my carpal tunnel additional carpal tunnel multi

Are slams still the chonky meta?

[tranquil sedge]

where do you get that impression from?

[split maple]

earthshatter bers get pleasantly tanky

boneshatter of complex bleed jugger is twice as tank prolly

but both are kinda learned to like playstyle

[final owl]

just watched dreamcores most recent vid. its obvs speculation but they did also specifically refer to 3.28 when talking about endgame rework

[tranquil sedge]

watchign

[bronze falcon]

hm, maybe it is time for bonesharter league

[tranquil sedge]

cool ty

[final owl]

s'got me a bit hype ngl, an endgame shakeup would be cool.

[tranquil sedge]

honestly the thing i want to see most is uber frags should not be t17-exclusive

[bronze falcon]

T17's are ass

[tranquil sedge]

normal bosses should have a chance to drop a single frag or something, if its less supply than t17 thats fine but it should be possible

[tranquil sedge]

the maps are not that much harder than t16s lol especially if you roll them

but uber boss gating sucks

[finite quail]

Nah, not regular t16s

[fossil mural]

it would have been fine if t17s were the actual "bridge" they wanted it to be

but its like not

[finite quail]

That would make white map boss rushing even stronger and would heavily dilute the uber frag market

[tranquil sedge]

there's only like a couple actually hard enemies in t17s and all the bosses are hard

that's it

most of the acutal maps is kinda whatever

[fossil mural]

its a different thing entirely

[bronze falcon]

It's not the difficulty it's more that playing any of the atlas other than the T17's is leaving money on the table and thus not worth playing anything less than T16.5

[tranquil sedge]

huh

[final owl]

the maps themselves aren't that much harder, the bosses kinda are though..

[finite quail]

Make them instead drop from t17s commonly, and from t16.5s uncommonly

[tranquil sedge]

you do realize one thing?

[finite quail]

Since no one runs t16.5s white