1┃general

[final owl]

I'm sure i got one or two with a decent fracture that would have been super easy to craft too. but these came after my desire for a decent chest. so.

[opaque sphinx]

its back

goddamn dexterity

leave me alone

[final owl]

it really wants to be there.

[opaque sphinx]

..

[final owl]

dex begone

[opaque sphinx]

annul press again gg

[final owl]

man i am a little bit too good at accidentally warping back into a stack of 10+ post death pops

[opaque sphinx]

ez

t4 cold res

w/e we settle

8d to make that one

[final owl]

i mean mine has t7 fire heh

[nimble cedar]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/sayurawesome-3948/character/breeeeeekkkk
why i cant see my righteous fire dps? in pob too cant see

[opaque sphinx]

tailors are 350c

fuck that for now i guess

[final owl]

i get distracted so easily. IT'S ONLY 4 MAPS. JUST DO IT

[grand flint]

https://pobb.in/0hBO69sBqFYA
mid flicker

yall think this the peak of flicker? or im just dumb

[opaque sphinx]

kek

[cobalt blade]

because pob thinks your reserving more life than you have for the extra auras equipped and ninja echoes that

RF turns off at 1 life so RF is disabled as far as theycare for dps

[final owl]

idk if it's the peak, but it looks decent. it's flicker. does it explode maps? then it's good imho 😛

[cobalt blade]

if u disable /remove auras itll work

[opaque sphinx]

how many chroma for 6 green lets see

[nimble cedar]

how people fit more aura than me and still appear?

oh ok

ty

[cobalt blade]

extra reservation

[opaque sphinx]

the answer was 9

damn

[cobalt blade]

like taking 20% life reserve mastery or enlighten 4 +1 gems to enlighten w/e

[opaque sphinx]

+30k EV and 2k ES

kek

[grand flint]

what do you think that i need to improve it?

[opaque sphinx]

so close

[whole bluff]

Where abyss socket

[opaque sphinx]

im poor

[final owl]

honestly at that sort of damage / relative tankyness i have no idea. at that point flicker totally does what it does right. blasts maps

[whole bluff]

Smh

[opaque sphinx]

if that other chest sell i have like 60d

there's other upgrade i need to do first

[whole bluff]

Poor but has 60d smh

Joke

I have 2d lul

[opaque sphinx]

hollow is like 5d per try

[whole bluff]

Rip

[cobalt blade]

fracture on 30 qual

smh

[whole bluff]

But fracture the hollow

[opaque sphinx]

also that

yeh those are dreams in the distance

bound and helical etc are prob better to prio

[whole bluff]

My dream is to kill gauntlet maven

[cobalt blade]

shes fun

i like the overlapping beams takes a bit to get your brain used to it

[cobalt blade]

if your going reflected its def the biggest upgrade

otherwise bound

[opaque sphinx]

prob not reflected atm

[cobalt blade]

non reflected is only a little bit better than a regular ring

fair enough

[opaque sphinx]

i assume thats like 300d atm for a 3mod

if not more

[cobalt blade]

uuuh its a 1/10 and you get 2 rings back on each attempt every 5 rings(of different names) gives you an unsplit copy

[whole bluff]

My first try I don't remember all the deaths. But some were literally to avoiding bob rossing the arena with happy accidents before it even mattered. Second one I bob rossed arena so much in all phases that I barely even tried her memory game in last phase

[cobalt blade]

so you only really spent on every uh 5th? ring and the mist cost

its cheaper than youd expect lol

[opaque sphinx]

hmm

[final owl]

i'd also like to kill gauntlet maven, but i have no intention of even trying the fight

[tranquil sedge]

if u dont reflect helicals/cogworks then the competition is synth rings

assuming you don't require influence, ofc

[cobalt blade]

yeah and synth is marginally better than non reflected

atleast double single i think is a bit worse

[tranquil sedge]

it depends but they're both competitive

[opaque sphinx]

is it?

ngl i didnt check

my current is this

[tranquil sedge]

not a bad ring i mean

especially when you dont have a lot of %int

[cobalt blade]

check that ring with all att instead of the dex and compare it to a helical basically

[tranquil sedge]

^

[opaque sphinx]

hm fair

[cobalt blade]

which is uh 98? int and 22 all att if you craft all att

[tranquil sedge]

my goto craft on rings like this is attribute essence until all attributes, lock ref chaos for chaos res
then aug life or defence prefix for t1 life/es

[final owl]

125% pack size cloister farming is pretty fun. start of the map feels like crowd surfing

[tranquil sedge]

heck yea

the downside is the clicking

lots of clicking

[final owl]

yeah it's not a trivial downside tbh :I

[tranquil sedge]

but its fun to pick up stacked decks so i guess that's kind of its own reward too lol

[cobalt blade]

could be worse

[final owl]

but the killing part is fun

[cobalt blade]

you could be clicking 6 inventories of scarabs in kulemak maps

[final owl]

are they interestingly chaotic maps at least?

[whole bluff]

There should be trans vaal cyclone that just autolooted entire rooms

[cobalt blade]

not a clue ive only seen people doing them on builds where its trivial

its just loot pinatas of scarabs

[final owl]

fair. that part would be fun. i got sick of strongboxes just because they're kinda tedious

woops. and I will now not pay attention for 0.2 second and die to burning ground

[dense rock]

tbh if your build can die to burning ground, you deserve to die to it 😄

[final owl]

it's not very hard. you just stand on it and don't be immune?

[cobalt blade]

ghost reaver es builds that only have leech recovery

it might take 2 minutes of afking but it dies to it

[final owl]

i am ghost reaver es, and it takes about 0.2 seconds 😄

[cobalt blade]

[final owl]

but yeah. entirely dependant on leech

to the point where i fell over when i last met a blue pack of leech immune mobs

[opaque sphinx]

abberath pantheon

turns exarch downside

into +10% ms

[cobalt blade]

but then your losing ralakesh

[cobalt blade]

oh thats pain

[opaque sphinx]

just be cb immune smh

[final owl]

I know this exists. I am not sure why i never bother with it

[cobalt blade]

bleeed

[final owl]

i havent even bothered to complete my current pantheons

why? because i am a lazy dork i guess

[cobalt blade]

i still run ralakesh with CBI because of bleed

[opaque sphinx]

i mean i say do it, but i still have not upgraded a single pantheon

cba for event league

[final owl]

i mean i probably should considering i am running exarch

[whole bluff]

I got a bunch of pantheons

[final owl]

not doing things sure is easy though

[opaque sphinx]

gonna complete phrecia with 4 slots

[final owl]

nice. i only got around to unlocking my 5th a day or two ago

[whole bluff]

I started just chucking a fragment in while clearing. Then I accidentally deactivated my ryslatha

While clearing atlas

[tight plinth]

i sometimes go a whole league witout upgrading pantheons

[whole bluff]

I needed antifreeze

[final owl]

quant and intel conq. probably the first decent conq drop i've seen

[whole bluff]

I was like "well, this is a dogshit mechanic" like 20 times until admitting I was lazy

[tranquil sedge]

you can buy that on amazon or at your local mechanic/hardware store

[final owl]

I die an unreasonable amount to entirely avoidable things. Git gud they say, nevarrrrr I say!

[tranquil sedge]

if you aren't dying to things within your control and still complaining about them
are you even playing

[dense rock]

i have gone thru entire league without assigning a single pantheon 😄

[opaque sphinx]

bro

is2g im starting to hate dexterity

as a whole

[cobalt blade]

legit i dont think ive ever seen someone roll an inc evasion cluster

[opaque sphinx]

i could do it on es

but

im at 395k ev

so close

[cobalt blade]

could do it on rmr for introspection for grace aura effect

[opaque sphinx]

nah i use supreme ego

[opal ingot]

You and me brother

[cobalt blade]

fair though if you can make it work introspection is multiplicative with ego

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

also less reservation on other things link something random to grace more reservation for ego

[opaque sphinx]

i dont have sockets 😂

[cobalt blade]

trutru

[opaque sphinx]

yeh i have arctic armour, precision and grace atm

i could take off the mana mastery and go for cluster maybe

but its also in LoM radius

[cobalt blade]

honestly you are probably better off just going for the ev one for sanity

[opaque sphinx]

prob

altho this feels harder than rolling a 12p and idk why

[cobalt blade]

it is

theres more tiers on smalls its like 3x worse

[opaque sphinx]

fuck

maybe i use a 6 passive medium XDDD

nvm med clusters are ass

only useful one flask dura

[final owl]

i know this was a long ways back but have you considered getting a +7 bronns lithe? (+2 duration or i forget the other one that works)

[tranquil sedge]

naw there's a few useful ones 😄

chaos dot, ele dot sometimes, crit chance, flask dura, etc

i haven't used/seen more than that but im sure u could find a use for a few of these at least

[kindred silo]

mine/trap is always really good for those builds

aoe is like fine

[opaque sphinx]

meant for me specifically

also 2/10 game

[whole bluff]

wut, 5th map device wasnt maven, it was 10 way?

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

i did maven but i cba doing a bunch of random maps

[split maple]

i can use blue dream and red nightmare in same build or is there some cross-item limit like with timeless?

[whole bluff]

neat

grace of the goddess still 12d -.-

is that uber maven?

[split maple]

10% from umaven yea

[whole bluff]

ah, damn

what's the shit they put on uber elder?

I can't really go blind on 390c atm

[opaque sphinx]

indgon

[cobalt blade]

5th is 10 way 6th is t17 map

[whole bluff]

yeah, but I mean what extra mechanics

[opaque sphinx]

oh

uhhh

[cobalt blade]

(can do them in eithe order)

[opaque sphinx]

ngl i cant remember i didnt notice them much

[cobalt blade]

drowning orbs

from eater

[whole bluff]

ah, I hate drowning orbs, but it shouldnt matter in that fight much

[cobalt blade]

thats all there is i think

its a bit annoying if yo arent action speed immune and get double overlap of elder succ while in orb

[whole bluff]

ah, yeah they add

and you just immobilize

[cobalt blade]

yep

[split maple]

drop scion pathing -> go for some tattoo jewel goodies instead. sameish es, somewhat less dps at same ramp, lotsa more block: https://pobb.in/hhVD5SK6rqZF (vs https://pobb.in/l71bWE1OxELS)

[opaque sphinx]

aul gang

[cobalt blade]

your far enough over crit cap you could drop a pcharge for safeguard bottom pathing on the block tree

should be better from the extra lightning res?

[brazen vector]

I like my ag because of garb of ephemeral

[cobalt blade]

they die too easily imo

[split maple]

its pretty samey

[opaque sphinx]

such a tease

[split maple]

due to crit multi per pc

[opaque sphinx]

bruh the fuckin dex

it wont leave

[cobalt blade]

far nuff

maybe if it lets you adjust res elsewhere but eh

[cobalt blade]

surely your evasion stacker wants the stat that scales evasion right!

just ignore int doing it twice as good and disabling dex scaling

[opaque sphinx]

w/e at least we hit one

its t2 but i really dont care anymore

[split maple]

ig it could let me swap bench on shield to pure lightning from ligth and cold hybrid

[cobalt blade]

[split maple]

so 60 more es at samey damage

its something 😄

[cobalt blade]

i mean hey every bit of optimization counts

[split maple]

https://pobb.in/0knYEd_DPEVU

i kinda like this - no need to fomo on getting es lom, 2 less adorned jewels to make, actually gets block (comparing to scion pathing)

& uses one more foulborn, so makes use of league stuff

[opaque sphinx]

bruh

ded

[brazen vector]

Where is blazar

[brazen vector]

Mine hasn't died in ages, 50k hp, 25k regen, res capped

[cobalt blade]

they get 1 tapped by feared

especially possessed

[brazen vector]

Mine didn't

No idea about possessed, haven't tried

[cobalt blade]

fair enough

it do be quite bit tankier on puppet tho

[brazen vector]

Yea

[opaque sphinx]

smoke a bowl for gl

giga settled on this one for now

damn almost perfect

[opal ingot]

thats a lotta es

[lapis dove]

this is basically when i have almost nothing left to improve right?

and endgame is more than enough as far as i know🤔

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

not exactly theres always alot more upgrades its just when youve reached the point the build creator doesnt consider it worth investing more

[opaque sphinx]

mean tainted cata

[split maple]

hmmm i got a socket free

for smh like that its just recomb right?

[opaque sphinx]

avenged itself 6 cata later

[dense rock]

At some point there sure are a lot of ways to improve your build. We are just talking about investment of 100's of divs to increase dps by 0.1%...

[cobalt blade]

ay

[opaque sphinx]

um

[split maple]

At some point game is about microoptimizing build 😛

[opaque sphinx]

excuse me

what the fuck

[dense rock]

ethic af

[cobalt blade]

but it matters for some content like 5 minute multi billion dps valdos maps

[split maple]

yea you wont use ehots for these too 😄

[cobalt blade]

where that 100-200 div upgrade is quite possibly the difference between you clearing 90% of 95%

yeeeeee

[split maple]

for some builds its real question if its worth investing into at some point

[lapis dove]

i think i actually have one of these but i never thought it would cost nearly that much

[dense rock]

"i could spend 500+ divs on gear upgrades and after doing that 5-10 times i might actually notice an improvement on my current setup"

[cobalt blade]

yep

big fan of getting builds to that point

[dense rock]

usually faaaaaaaaaaaaar before that point and i am allready half playing a new build 😛

[split maple]

on the other hand squeezing the last % of performance outa build is pretty fun

[opaque sphinx]

play a stacker and u dont get that experience

every upgrade is exponential

[dense rock]

I love pushing absolute garbage tier stuff to lategame. using 4 or 5link main skill to clear elder n gang etc

[split maple]

like i want my leaguestarter to hit t17, want my second build to do 40/40, then its time for project build which is more about getting strong enough to brag with than actually needed for most of stuff in game

[cobalt blade]

you do eventually once you reach the point of 4/5 mod misted rings templed mageblood chance orbing magebloods for bound influence

[opaque sphinx]

2k int stacker? 50m dps
3k int stacker? 2-300m dps
4k int stacker? 1b dps

[cobalt blade]

it just takes you until the 8-10 mirror range

or more

and 99% of people just wont reach it

[opaque sphinx]

i mean fair

[dense rock]

how big % of the playerbase has even killed a single pinnacle encounter even once?

[split maple]

prolly can add 99.99% to 10 mirr range

[cobalt blade]

im assuming 99% for the valdo players

[split maple]

fair yea

[opaque sphinx]

of the actively playing players? id assume like 60-70%

[dense rock]

not even remotely close 😄

[cobalt blade]

if you only include people whoeve finished acts 60-70% feels accurate

if you include acts 5%

[opaque sphinx]

and y ou know that how

[cobalt blade]

(or lower)

[dense rock]

4% of the ENTIRE PLAYERBASE (in steam) has completed every map on atlas

[opaque sphinx]

if ur going by steam numbers ur completely misguided

200%

[cobalt blade]

yes that includes people whoeve logged into twilight strand once

opened passive tree alt f4

[split maple]

there is big diference between loging into game and abandoning it, doing campaign and abandoning it, doing 2-4 voids every league, doing 2-4 voids opening weekeend, ...

depends on what you define as active player then

[opaque sphinx]

poe is a f2p game thats not made for most people
the vast majority of ppl download it for free and quit within a few hours

hence why i said ACTIVELY playing players

[stuck phoenix]

How do you define the player base

Anyone who downloaded and launched the game?

Anyone who spent money?

[opaque sphinx]

lmfao this catalyst gave me 10% more dps

[stuck phoenix]

Anyone who spent at least an hour?

[stuck phoenix]

What

[dense rock]

lets define it by players that have played in more than 2 leagues...

[stuck phoenix]

I'd say probably 60-90%, but that's a pure guess

[cobalt blade]

even thats not a great estimate because of people trying to play twice and still quitting in act 1

[dense rock]

i have a feeling its gonna be far less than that 😛

[split maple]

its a more reasonable estimate tho, +1 to bido's guess

[cosmic raptor]

megabald?

[cobalt blade]

yea id agree with 60-70% ish

[split maple]

quest exarch and eater are pinacles too

[cobalt blade]

You could maybe get statistics by looking for quest ilvl boss drops for eater/exarch at league start

[stuck phoenix]

It takes a certain commitment to return for another league

[split maple]

and these are doable on rf skill issue type player too

[cobalt blade]

And then compare to steam numbers

[dense rock]

I have almost 3k hours in poe1 and i have not even seen an pinnacle encounter in the last 4 or 5 leagues i have played

[split maple]

dude why

[stuck phoenix]

Quest eater?

[cobalt blade]

Track all that get listed on trade for like a week or 2 and you maybe get a somewhat useable estimate

[split maple]

not even 2 voids?

[stuck phoenix]

Quest exarch?

[dense rock]

no time

[opaque sphinx]

i think that makes u the exception not the norm

[split maple]

at 3k hours no time aint excuse

[dense rock]

i usually casually meme until mid tier maps before i drop the league due to time restraints

[cobalt blade]

I mean if your enjoying the game fair enough

[split maple]

except if you played last 4-5 leagues for like 50h each

[stuck phoenix]

Peculiar

[cobalt blade]

But you're most definitely the exception

[stuck phoenix]

But definitely not the average poe player

But also, how would you even reach 3k hours like that

I play casually

I have less than 2k hours

[dense rock]

I used to take like 50+ chars to lvl90+ each league but i simply dont have the time anymore. And most of my friends are pretty much in the same boat. None of us usally reach red tier maps

[stuck phoenix]

I got these hours over like four years or so

[dense rock]

I have played since farming act3 docks was considered lategame content

[split maple]

at some point you need to manage "lets try another build" syndrome dude 😄

[stuck phoenix]

And I almost always at least beat up exarch and eater

[cobalt blade]

50+ is quite the exaggeration there

[stuck phoenix]

I see

[opaque sphinx]

but that takes like 20 hrs for an experienced player

u cant find 20h in 3 month?

[dense rock]

yap

[lucid gale]

Watch out, reflect bearers!

[split maple]

there rly is no reason to have more than one char per class in league

just respec them

[cobalt blade]

actually id make an argument here for having 2 of the same class if you do support chars

[dense rock]

i prefer to binge. If i have 30-60mins to play per day, i would rather not even give it a go since i prefer playing in like 6 hour sessions

[cobalt blade]

Tedious as fuck to constantly respec those to you actual char

[opaque sphinx]

i mean thats a you thing not a time constraint thing

[split maple]

i am exagarating a bit but true yea

like if i didnt want to keep cws i would prolly do accustacker this league 😛

[dense rock]

had to make sure you had your fire resistance sorted out before joining a group for it 🙂

[cobalt blade]

based acc stacker fun

Im so curious wtf standard will do with the claws tbh

[split maple]

got me some claws dced if i ever get bored enough by league to do standard

[cobalt blade]

Idt they've had access to them yet with the change to HC ripping to reg keepers

[surreal musk]

u can migrate

no ?

[cobalt blade]

No

Your chars only goto standard after league end

[viscid python]

does vaal orb and locus of corruption have the same corruption possibilities? like can they both roll the same implicit? obviously locus can roll 2 implicits

[brazen vector]

Yes

[viscid python]

ty

[frigid wedge]

esm

how much flat mana do you have

[opaque sphinx]

cruel

[brazen vector]

Sans

How is your 11l weapon coming along

[frigid wedge]

hm?

i dont know if i can convince myself to do phrecia shit rn

ill try to later

[shy furnace]

phrecia just a fwe hours

[brazen vector]

One more week

[whole bluff]

I did a check on poe.ninja in phrecia, and of the 14 most played skills, 4 are spells, 1 is RF, 1 is PBoD, and 1 is BV and 1 is Spark

PBoD can actually deal the dmg of a non-meta attack skill on similar gear I guess?

[cobalt blade]

hoag is also a spell tbf

[dense rock]

IMO its more of a minions than a spell

[cobalt blade]

It might be a minion build but hey still a spell

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt feel reasonable to farm to make when it wont get use after the event ends

[whole bluff]

It has the tag yeah

[lilac parcel]

will they change t17s in next patch ?

[frigid wedge]

bc i probably would run outta time

[cobalt blade]

nobody knows but hopefully

[whole bluff]

It doesn't deal spell dmg, same as RF I guess

But both are spells

[lilac parcel]

im farmign those to sell

[whole bluff]

I am trolling so hard rn I think

[dense rock]

same energy as "summon raging spirit is a physical attack spell, not a summon skill"

[cobalt blade]

as a memey argument by the logic of needing spell dam to scale them wanders are spells and all whisperer builds

[whole bluff]

Spellslinger has nothing worth slinging

[whole bluff]

I'm just stating it does have the tag. What energy is there in that?

[frigid wedge]

hey naca i have a question for u bc i feel like its smth would know, is there any legacy stuff that scales extra stuff off ur mana thats worth trying out

trying to figure out what one can do with 2-3million mana

[cobalt blade]

The only thing i can think off is bugged fire res chest into tasalio foulborn choir

[frigid wedge]

ywah

thats the idea

[cobalt blade]

maybe theres some legacy clusters though for it not too sure

[frigid wedge]

idk what to actually abuse it for other than es and a few billion dps tho

[cobalt blade]

I guess actually theres legacy vinktars for spell mana leech

could do some funky archmage setup with a million mana

[frigid wedge]

was leaning towards mfa or kboc tbh

mfa takes very big advantage of the fact u can spend like 1m mana by clicking arcane cloak

for indigon

[cobalt blade]

Yeah i dont think theres anything mana specific for those

Maybe crucible treee things actually i need to check those

[frigid wedge]

so i assume we never had smth uncapped that gave % dmg based on mana

other than transfig

[whole bluff]

Phrecia keeps on going for 1 week right?

[opaque sphinx]

[frigid wedge]

ye

[frigid wedge]

man what are u even making anymore

[whole bluff]

Not worth making a new char then

[frigid wedge]

hm?

this is for standard

[whole bluff]

I meant for me

[frigid wedge]

right

yes kira ew standard

[opaque sphinx]

int es inc eff alllat/dex

[opaque sphinx]

whiffed the frac alrdy twice

[cobalt blade]

Crucible tree mods

[frigid wedge]

so its just flat

[cobalt blade]

Ay

[cobalt blade]

Not that i know of yea

You would get a shit ton of inc damage from crusader anoint for transfiguration of mind tho

[frigid wedge]

ironically i think if i scaled the flat mana from int stacking and grabbed mana as extra es watchers i could beat the party play es record completely solo

[cobalt blade]

Buuut not legacy

[cobalt blade]

Its a bit over a million

and mana as es is conversion so the inc mana is additive with inc es

Compared to radiant faith being multiplicative

so 100% inc es wont do much

[frigid wedge]

4k int 2.2m mana and 220k flat es just from watchers seems like it would beat

[pulsar dune]

it's not quite flat ES is the thing

[frigid wedge]

ah

[pulsar dune]

due to what Naca just said

[cobalt blade]

100% inc es will be additive with your 12500% inc mana

12600% inc es

[frigid wedge]

right

its still stupid lorge es

[cobalt blade]

ay its real dumb lmao

[frigid wedge]

also its not 12k inc mana

bc it has to half to 23k fire res twice

once from ammy once from chieftain

[cobalt blade]

Ya true forgot tasalios only 50%

[frigid wedge]

but its still like 550 mana per 1 flat

woth 4k int (with necropolis haunted helmet mod) ur already at 2.2m mana with nothing else

[cobalt blade]

One thing to note i think there's legacy watchers eye for even more mana from es

[frigid wedge]

if u get ur int from mana int abyssals ur just gonna hit the sun

[cobalt blade]

150% adorned mana int implicit int+res abyssals

[frigid wedge]

yep

[cobalt blade]

surely 5 mill manas reachable with standard gear

[frigid wedge]

i need to amass a collection of foulborn choirs and dc them tbh

[opaque sphinx]

surely

[frigid wedge]

assuming 20 jewels ur getting 6k flat from int+abyss mana

which is 3.3m mana

[opaque sphinx]

[brazen vector]

About time x3

[cobalt blade]

you have legacy % inc intelligence stuff

[frigid wedge]

yay!

[opaque sphinx]

first annul removed all att, good start

[brazen vector]

I feel like your fracture rate is worse than my cb small cluster rate xD

[frigid wedge]

kiraaaaaaaaaaa

[cobalt blade]

And crucible items had % more maximum mana

[frigid wedge]

i need ur whispering iceeeeeeee

[opaque sphinx]

muh baby

[frigid wedge]

do you not want to be a part of trying to hit 5 million mana

[opaque sphinx]

im pretty sure wi is not the way for that no?

[frigid wedge]

honestly widowhail is probably better

with Tri synth crucible quiver

[cobalt blade]

Pretty sure its widow hail or dual wield crucible items

were quivers crucible tree able?

[frigid wedge]

yes i believe so

[cobalt blade]

my instinctive thought is 2 wands sceptres w/e with 5% more mana and 8% more mana on 2 of the slots

hmmm

[frigid wedge]

maybe

[cobalt blade]

If they were prob widow then

[frigid wedge]

but also we need the intel

[cobalt blade]

Someone probably has one with % intel and % mana lmao

[frigid wedge]

i dont have enough mirrors for this shit

i gotta lock in

[cobalt blade]

[frigid wedge]

time to swap to Smurf's kboc and hope he made it tanky enough for juicing blights

in keepers

[cobalt blade]

glgl

[opaque sphinx]

are any of u currently logged in phrecia lmao

[cobalt blade]

no im in bed failing to sleep

[frigid wedge]

my build has the dps and the clear but it dies when it walks inside prox bubbles ._.

[cobalt blade]

Would recommend being block based for proxy shields being less uh ass

[frigid wedge]

i can delete invig bosses instantly

[frigid wedge]

fish

[cobalt blade]

feeshing rod block

[frigid wedge]

lmao

is there 2h block for non staves

[cobalt blade]

but fair idk if its even possible

Uuuuh

A billion tattoos

[frigid wedge]

its kinda point and affix starved rn

[opaque sphinx]

settleshop idc

[frigid wedge]

22m dps tho and it can nuke invig blight bosses with blooming

[cobalt blade]

Just 1 reforge more likely away!

[opaque sphinx]

this is so bait

[cobalt blade]

that feels wrong if its properly juiced ones

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

Titanic/invig/boss lane

[opaque sphinx]

bruh what

[frigid wedge]

i have 2700% mob life explosions

[cobalt blade]

hmmmm

[opaque sphinx]

aw now it died

[cobalt blade]

mayb then

o7

[brazen vector]

Fossils?

[opaque sphinx]

harvest ref def/more likely

[cobalt blade]

harvests better

[frigid wedge]

i can try titanic maybe

[brazen vector]

Ah

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

Dense fossils+fundamental is too expensive to spam on that

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if poe ninja updated

i need lvl 100

[opaque sphinx]

ded

[frigid wedge]

she's back at the top baby

[opaque sphinx]

aiight settleshop for tonight

mostly cuz i have no juice and no gold

[opaque sphinx]

huge

[frigid wedge]

im 1 point away from a jewel socket

[frigid wedge]

i can do it for glacial cascade too

but hydrosphere is better than pbod and cascade when im farming xp

which sounds rlly dumb but its significantly faster

[cobalt blade]

hydrosphere main skill just sounds so cursed

funny but cursed

[frigid wedge]

its kinda cursed

but uh

its REALLY good for evolving alvas

compared to everything else ive tried

[cobalt blade]

me but mamba es instead of damage

could surpass in damage too if i went for crit +crit reflected ring tho

Just a pita

[brazen vector]

17k ehp

[opaque sphinx]

now i need to roll and enkindle flasks

[frigid wedge]

nice!

[cobalt blade]

:3

[frigid wedge]

you should see the phys max hit

[brazen vector]

3k?

[frigid wedge]

please ignore the fact im using hydrosphere with RUNEBINDER

and im still top dps

queenly behaviour

[brazen vector]

[lilac parcel]

is this a rare creature ?

[frigid wedge]

alesia what are u farming for

[opaque sphinx]

[brazen vector]

my next character

[opaque sphinx]

think thats a sign i need to sleep

[brazen vector]

forgot the jewels

[cobalt blade]

Pretty sure thats just a yellow beast

impending doom p pog

[frigid wedge]

imp doom?

smh gross shield and helmet

also gl with the aoe breakpoint ._.

it took a cogwork with hex aoe mod and caster quality with a kalandras and imp escape to extra hex aoe to get 4 overlaps on mine

[cobalt blade]

iirc it's 5.4m radius

[lilac parcel]

can someone help me ? regex for this ?

i simply do not understand which ones are "rare creatures"

[frigid wedge]

i know u can visible see the overlap on mine

bc it leaves an imprint on the floor

[cobalt blade]

Your best bet is just going to be running a single map with einhar scarab if your not in campaign

[tranquil sedge]

you have asked this exact question before and you were told it is not possible

and you were given solutions

[lilac parcel]

yes the solution is one at atime

[tranquil sedge]

yes
there is no single rare beast regex

[lilac parcel]

this is what im confronted with

[cobalt blade]

Yee it do show ingame too

[brazen vector]

did you use <<HRB37>>?

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[cobalt blade]

Harby 37

[lilac parcel]

then how do i recongnize "rare creatues " without regex

[frigid wedge]

no

[cobalt blade]

go into calcs and check your curse radius

If its 5.4 or higher its fine

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if i can dig out me showing my id overlappint

[cobalt blade]

Yep ur fine

[frigid wedge]

winning

[frigid wedge]

shits loud

[cobalt blade]

you hope someone has a tab called yellow beasts and that they arent lying

But realistically they wont be since yellow beasts are most common

[tranquil sedge]

https://poe.re/#/beast

what about this

[brazen vector]

why would you even want rare rare beasts

[tranquil sedge]

a regex for red beasts - then u buy what's not highlighted maybe?

[frigid wedge]

he ran out

[cobalt blade]

iirc it doesnt work great in tabs because highlights monster mods?

[tranquil sedge]

oh

then yea idk just buy beasts from a dumb tab, yellow beasts will all have the same price

[frigid wedge]

tft sells bulk beasts

[cobalt blade]

also might highlight other nonsense from itemized beasts lol

[tranquil sedge]

so if u find ONE yellow beast via trade site
most of the other ones in the tab should also be yellows

if they're the same price

also you can use TFT yes

that also saves gold.

[brazen vector]

filter trade for yellow beasts and use the trade aggregator?

[tranquil sedge]

aggregator?

[cobalt blade]

do people even respond to non async for that

[tranquil sedge]

beasts, they might, esp. if u follow up the whisper with 'buying many'

or 'need 60'

[cobalt blade]

(assuming she means aggregator as bulk trade)

[frigid wedge]

this hurts me in more ways than should be allowed

[brazen vector]

tool that shows how much of the searched item people have in your current search

[tranquil sedge]

huh
i didnt know this was a thing

where do you get that?

[cobalt blade]

oh thats funky

[brazen vector]

https://github.com/RenuzitV/Trade-Aggregator

[tranquil sedge]

thanks

[lilac parcel]

there isnt like that i have emptied 3 tabs and most of them werent rare

amd spemt half a milion gold

[tranquil sedge]

try TFT then
that's the only real idea i have left

[lilac parcel]

i thouth the same in the start that if one is rare probably all rare , well it wasant like that

[tranquil sedge]

it will cost 1 div per 60 yellow beasts at current rates

based on the messages in the channel

(and zero gold, ofc)

[lilac parcel]

give me link to this

[tranquil sedge]

TFT discord

google it, it'll be the first link

theforbiddentrove

and read their rules before you do anything

[frigid wedge]

i tried to link

that didnt wokr

xD

[frigid wedge]

happily banned

[tranquil sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt blade]

based

[frigid wedge]

does anyone have a suggestion for a better corrupt for this

[fossil mural]

Megablyad

[cobalt blade]

aura gem levels? or more golem levels

[frigid wedge]

golem levels are just golem life

and only aura tagged gem is flesh and stone

[lilac parcel]

i tried 5 people all not online :))

[cobalt blade]

fair idk if they die often or not

[frigid wedge]

i mean

i have 14 of them

i get 2 of every golem and 4 carrions

[cobalt blade]

ah ye isee

[frigid wedge]

my spell echo is missing quality wtf

[cobalt blade]

socketed gem reservation move heralds in there?

[frigid wedge]

the only removable socket here is uh

rf

[cobalt blade]

dunno if it lets you fit anything extra but idt theres anything better lmao

[frigid wedge]

res eff without gaining an aura or anything is just dps loss

:/

i need to fix glove implicits

i have wrong herald buff effect

need purity

not ash

[cobalt blade]

Ye makes sense

only other thing would be if it lets you drop reserve in tree

but i douubt 90% is enough

[frigid wedge]

my only reservation on tree is like 2 points into a herald wherl

[tranquil sedge]

that doesn't help your issue

[cobalt blade]

icic

[tranquil sedge]

just go bulk buy off tft

[frigid wedge]

and i get aoe for them anyway

from that

so idrk

the frostblink can't be shifted anywhere and i dont think herald gem levels do enough to matter

maybe socketed gem level+aoe gem level with heralds moved

[cobalt blade]

you might hit a 1% more damage breakpoint

[frigid wedge]

but otherwise idrk

from what

u need global herald effect for that

[lilac parcel]

i can manualy scroll them in huge tabs with beasts now one by one

[cobalt blade]

the heralds minions dps :D they contribute a smol bit

[frigid wedge]

lmao

i personally corrupted this helmet i have rn

:P

maybe leech mod would b ok

but i have leech flask

[cobalt blade]

Isnt it only light cold and fire

[frigid wedge]

hm?

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

that'd work to some extent i guess
just have to take time to not mistake random mods for beastiary mods then

but ur still going to spend gold on it

if you have gold then ig sure?

[frigid wedge]

i have atziris promise

so 6% dps is chaos

[cobalt blade]

oh i might b e tired i only just realized you linked hydrosphere idk what i thought you linked

[cosmic raptor]

you might be onto something

[frigid wedge]

its normally pbrand

but i like flip flopping the phys spells

bc i have 90 global convert anyways

[cobalt blade]

you actually might reach 1% more on herald of purity then i think its % more scales with gem level

[frigid wedge]

i think its funny that i have so much herald buff effect that even when i basically only pick up lightning convert on a skill with 100% cold convert, my highest damage type is still fire

[cobalt blade]

Why is it lvl 26 for the next breakpoint on that wth

[frigid wedge]

my gloves are literally 90 convert without a single fire convert mod

this is ALL herald of ash

[cobalt blade]

based herald

[lilac parcel]

i have gold the beasitary mods are red in the game

[frigid wedge]

i love making meta builds into meme builds for the funsies

[cobalt blade]

ash reaches 22% phys as fire at 24

[tranquil sedge]

good to know
this will be a good tip if anyone else asks this in the future
thanks.

[frigid wedge]

its the best

[frigid wedge]

interesting

but my life regen ;-;

ill look into it maybe

[cobalt blade]

mmmm regen good defence

[dense rock]

fuck your regen, you dont do anything with it once your dps reaches 10 shapers/sec territory

[frigid wedge]

my main layer of recovery is on kill

[cobalt blade]

It does if said regen enables rf

[frigid wedge]

i actively nerf my dps on this build by not taking herald clusters

:)

i literally gain 50% dps

by just replacing my mediums

[dense rock]

pffft make it 50000%

convert all defenses in to deepz

[frigid wedge]

whats the mob life % on YOUR phys explosions?

[dense rock]

irrelevant 😄

[frigid wedge]

and does your penance brand give you headaches because it's a strobe light

[lucid gale]

[frigid wedge]

pulses while at max energy stacks on my pb is screen wide

[cobalt blade]

full bloom penance >:3

[dense rock]

Ill have you know i favor minion builds and i prefer the variants with as many minions as possible. I ALSO HAVE CELESTIAL MTX ON ALL GEAR AND SPELLS INCLUDING THE MINIONS

[frigid wedge]

i have no skill mtx

i suffer the migraines

[dense rock]

instant -99% dmg

[frigid wedge]

nah

[cobalt blade]

I think penance mtx makes it worse

[dense rock]

embrace the glitter puke visuals

[frigid wedge]

its +99% because dmg to head

i have a character i was gonna use for kboc literally called migraine

[dense rock]

what the game looks is irrelevant since you are directing 95% of your focus on netflix instead of the game anyway

[frigid wedge]

i literally started a breach hive yesterday and just watched mika run her harvests

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge would I use obliteration to level with the curse setups?

[frigid wedge]

if you want? that build doesn't take explosions normally bc poison prolif

but it can do ig

[cobalt blade]

is pretty unnecessary with curse aoe

imo

[frigid wedge]

its kinds fun, i can do the same in blighted maps

[brazen vector]

I dont have much aoe yet

[frigid wedge]

just twink level

[cobalt blade]

prob fine in campaign-yellow maps tho

[frigid wedge]

hmmm

[dense rock]

blight maps on summoner builds <3. I just sit at the pump and slap a lighter on top of my main minion button and go for a smoke or take a shit or something

[frigid wedge]

do i make another unnecessarily expensive gear piece for my elementalist or do i twink level a hiero and try smurfs kboc inquis

[cobalt blade]

you should try this with titanic invig blight

surely goes well

[frigid wedge]

and then slowly turn it into res stack

[frigid wedge]

dont most minion builds manage fine with prox bubbles

bc the minion just walks in

[dense rock]

yap

[cobalt blade]

Yeah but the minions get 1 shot or you die to off screen in titanic on minion builds lmao

[frigid wedge]

interesting

serious question tho

[brazen vector]

its okay I guess without obliteration, but running no weapon atp

[frigid wedge]

why are u running titanic

rn its not really worth

[dense rock]

also i tend to play kinda melee focused minion builds so prox bubbles might aswell not exist since both me and my minions are most likely inside the bubble

[cobalt blade]

its fun

Genuinely thats the whole reason i do titanic over bloodlines

[frigid wedge]

alesia

[lucid gale]

Their heart will go on.

[frigid wedge]

alesia

[cobalt blade]

So much funner to have actual challenges

[frigid wedge]

please

stop buying gear

and buy the damn cascades

this is disgusting

[brazen vector]

woke spell cascade?

[frigid wedge]

buy the awakened cascades

[frigid wedge]

2 of them

[cobalt blade]

she cant equip them yet

[frigid wedge]

1 in gloves 1 in helm

[brazen vector]

SANS

[frigid wedge]

but my soul

[brazen vector]

SANS

[cobalt blade]

lvl 72 for woke gems

[brazen vector]

SANS

please

[frigid wedge]

WHY WOULD U SWAP SO EARLY

[cobalt blade]

Its correct

[brazen vector]

its working

[cobalt blade]

Doedre hat is lvl 30

[frigid wedge]

;-;

[cobalt blade]

You literally destroy campaign with it

[frigid wedge]

oh right

ppl use it as a campaign build

gross

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

Am partial to hollow palm smite tho

[frigid wedge]

im usually just whatever goes nyoom

[cobalt blade]

vaal smite my beloved <3

[frigid wedge]

i tried kf lightning warp bc floris

[brazen vector]

I use HP smite till this point

[frigid wedge]

but uh

he bad at make setups

for campaign

[dense rock]

nothing beat the comfyness of lvling with double poets

[frigid wedge]

what is the double poets setup

what goes in the second one

[dense rock]

2x poets pen with arc and lightning warp. You just press attack and dont let go until act10 ends 😄

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[dense rock]

zone every 10secs 😄

[cobalt blade]

hard disagree smite+move speed feels alot better than trying to control warp lol

[frigid wedge]

is it as fast as the kf one from jungroan

[frigid wedge]

warp isnt satisfying without duration breakpoints

[cobalt blade]

yee

[dense rock]

no idea. Its stupid fast due to every attack basically killing everything in your screen and teleporting you a full screen distance

[frigid wedge]

if u get the dura breakpoint it's heavenly

floris did not give me a setup with the dura breakpoint

[dense rock]

The worst part about is that you are still wearing the same items at the end of act10 as you wore at the end of act1

[cobalt blade]

o7

thats every twink setup

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[dense rock]

Every damn time... "why the fuck am i wearing white ES chest with 1 socket at this point?"

[cobalt blade]

you equip heup and astramentis in act 2 sevenleagues/gold rim in 1 nothing else changes (replace heups for probably timeclasp? for warp)

oh and mageblood at 44

the strongest lvling item frfr

[frigid wedge]

i used to bama level with supreme ostentation

:3

[cobalt blade]

holy

[frigid wedge]

all 10 acts with a quill rain

it was actually really chill

[dense rock]

"oi cunt, fork me 2 poets and 4 uti flasks with use on end of effect enchants" -me to friends 0.2secs after making my first character for the league

[frigid wedge]

towards the end u had to swap from just clicking blink arrow to firing mirror before blink while clearing tho

it was really good tho

[cobalt blade]

Sounds okay before they shot bama

[frigid wedge]

i preferred it to hollow palm until i started using snaking

[frigid wedge]

honestly it should be relatively unchanged other than the duration bullshit

:/

[cobalt blade]

didnt they give it 30% less damage too

[frigid wedge]

it was double bombarding

[cobalt blade]

quite impactful early on no?

[frigid wedge]

yeah but it was pretty dominant

[cobalt blade]

fair nuff

[frigid wedge]

naca honey i did the entire campaign with quill rain

i think

[cobalt blade]

I still dont understand the appeal of snaking for hollow palm smite is so much funner with vaal

[frigid wedge]

i can pick up an ok quiver and widowhail

[frigid wedge]

smite setup has to climb up things ass towards the end and snaking clear is more consistent

[cobalt blade]

ay fair prob overestimating how much worse itd feel and really anything works with twink gear lmao

[dense rock]

my friend leveled entire campaign only using flame dash once

[cobalt blade]

Wuh my setups 1 shot until t2 ish maps for trash 3-4 shot for bosses

[dense rock]

twink gear enables fucking anything 😛

[frigid wedge]

it was uh, quill rain, hyrris bite, le heup, death rush, magnate, seven league, the rampage gloves, tabby, goldrim, quill rain

[cobalt blade]

and you have + strike mastery and run ancestral call for clear

[frigid wedge]

iirc

[cobalt blade]

so you basically hit the whole screen every smite

[frigid wedge]

and daressos salute ammy?

i think

[frigid wedge]

fair but still

[cobalt blade]

that do be an ammy choice

[frigid wedge]

i prefer to offscreen

[frigid wedge]

it movement speedge

[cobalt blade]

fair but id argue smite is better for that than snaking

[frigid wedge]

:3

[cobalt blade]

vaal hits like 2 screens lol

[cobalt blade]

true :3

[frigid wedge]

yeah i just enjoy having my clear on the actual skill personally

the vaal smite isnt well paced imo for running thru areas fast

compared to just clicking snaking where ur going

[cobalt blade]

Ye guess tis prob a playstyle thing

[frigid wedge]

and it coming with u

also dps was just better

before changes to skill

bc it hit boss like 3x

now they're very similar

[brazen vector]

HNNNGH ITS GETTING BIGGER EXILE

[cobalt blade]

dps wise ill admit its better but the difference wasnt killing bosses a second faster lol

[frigid wedge]

alesia are you hard

[surreal musk]

smite is usable with eblade and ee

[brazen vector]

no?

[surreal musk]

so its good

[frigid wedge]

we talking twink levelling

[surreal musk]

oh

[cobalt blade]

^^

so hollow palm smite vs snaking

And a funny Bama setup

[brazen vector]

my curses are overlapping now

will do cruel lab after therapy for another 100% aoe

[frigid wedge]

guess the streamer

[cobalt blade]

tyty?

[frigid wedge]

i should probably see if i can make it work again

[brazen vector]

Rue

[final owl]

smite just gives me mercenaries doryani shenanigans flashbacks.

[cobalt blade]

i could see tyty having that

who it be lol

[dense rock]

jung

[frigid wedge]

sebk

[hybrid harness]

quin?

[cobalt blade]

Ahh sebk also makes sense

[hybrid harness]

oh. seen that copypasta a lot there too

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[cobalt blade]

billion gold farmed in blight is some psychotic shit

[brazen vector]

pure dedication

[frigid wedge]

i made 2m in 5 maps yesterday

[cobalt blade]

no sane person could do that much blight

[frigid wedge]

gold*

[dense rock]

IMO if you do blight content outside of accident, you should go get your head evaluated by a professional

[final owl]

I kinda like blight early league. it's easy to do if your build is shonky for some reason

[cobalt blade]

Ay ive made a few tens of millions myself just 1bil is silly

(in keepers)

[frigid wedge]

yeye

[dense rock]

the moment you start the encounter, you should get the "why the fuck am i even wasting my time with this" thought...

[frigid wedge]

i might do a decent lump of blight till league ends

if this kboc actually has the dps and i dont need to remake half the build

[final owl]

a lump of blight

:I

[cobalt blade]

anyway ima sleep^^

[frigid wedge]

gn naca

rest well

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

[cobalt blade]

[brazen vector]

maven is a glorp

[frigid wedge]

bed

[brazen vector]

do you think impending doom can run harbingers

[frigid wedge]

yes

i think impending doom can run everything

provided ur willing to sit for a bit

i did all ubers on mine

it had 11m dps

before uber dr

after dr maybe like 3m

[celest bone]

give me all your currency @frigid wedge

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/_L9qBGxuufrS I follow this one, idk how much higher it can go

[bold scarab]

I still think tornado needs more violent transformations

[brazen vector]

and idk what specters they use

[frigid wedge]

in what league

[bold scarab]

*also a phys version'

[celest bone]

phrecia

[frigid wedge]

all 3 div of it?

[bold scarab]

where it picks up lingering blades and does a blade vortex style thing

[celest bone]

damn you broke as well

i will be glad to see the back of keepers tbh

[brazen vector]

how much you need

[frigid wedge]

i wasn't really paying attention to what was going on for the last 2mo

[celest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-reaction-meme-gif-23306023

[frigid wedge]

and i did not lock in at all

:P

[bold scarab]

speaking of which you still cant use bladeblast or animate weapons at their level at all

[frigid wedge]

for what

[bold scarab]

the first lingering blades skill is locked to lvl 28 while those are lvl 4 and 16

[celest bone]

oh i dunno i just like money

i did have an awful start tbf

[bold scarab]

28 for bladefall ... and any others come from the lab

[celest bone]

didnt enjoy my first build then my build was squishy and kinda still is for t17