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viscid ruin
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whatevs my question still stands

pulsar wraith
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there isnt any difference if i swap tho

viscid ruin
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what mtx are you using?

pulsar wraith
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for spark? or general

viscid ruin
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all

pulsar wraith
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  • spark spider
cobalt blade
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whatever runs better on your exact hardware

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alternatively swap to linux so you can only use vulkan

rich widget
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can you get perma immortal calls?

cobalt blade
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no

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it has the cd doesnt recover during effect thing

rich widget
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also what would be someonthign worth investing in right now?

viscid ruin
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blast rain

cobalt blade
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locks mirror shards and mirrors

viscid ruin
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i'm just very pinche basado alaverga

frigid wedge
rich widget
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and i have like 15 div max

frigid wedge
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then u buy foulborn choir and int acc claws and hope they get removed

pseudo axle
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not bad

frigid wedge
pseudo axle
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I think this is only the second conqueror ex I've got from a feared encounter? maybe even the first?

cobalt blade
pseudo axle
viscid ruin
frigid wedge
shrewd fiber
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what are bog shamans going to do when phrecia ends lol

rich widget
frigid wedge
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same as whisperers

shrewd fiber
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😭 how do i unbrick it

frigid wedge
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you put on the apostate

shrewd fiber
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would i need a full build respec completely? any way to fix

frigid wedge
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and go back to what u were doing

shrewd fiber
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apostate seems usable

shrewd fiber
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although much worse indeed

viscid ruin
shrewd fiber
finite quail
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once phrecia is over, so are the new ascendancies

frigid wedge
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nightblood is the only difficult to replace node

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tbh

shrewd fiber
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well yes so what are you going to do once you lose it

finite quail
shrewd fiber
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LMAO

finite quail
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I won't keep playing

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Probably gonna delete the character

shrewd fiber
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i see

finite quail
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No, its not voided

viscid ruin
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ggg could do something food for once and five us crossbows for poe1

tranquil umbra
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yeah I'll also just delete character

finite quail
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I'll just wait for 3.28

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Make a new character

frigid wedge
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be thankful

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xD

shrewd fiber
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spose lol

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gonna try the chaos bloodline

frigid wedge
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ur pfp is rlly pretty btw like wth

finite quail
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thanks

viscid ruin
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a scaly

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IN MY FURRY SPACE?

frigid wedge
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tom are you ok

viscid ruin
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no

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:D

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when is 3.28?

finite quail
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early march

shrewd fiber
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mine is revenenat from souls

finite quail
frigid wedge
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mine is

viscid ruin
frigid wedge
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bleh

finite quail
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watch to be less okay

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
fading tapir
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am i going mental or is this image changing every time i see this post

finite quail
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it is the same exact image

finite quail
viscid ruin
frigid wedge
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mfs really be configuring every single shrine in the game out here

rich widget
finite quail
frigid wedge
finite quail
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its late march

rich widget
frigid wedge
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and still not 1b dps

rich widget
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WAIT FR?

finite quail
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no stupid

rich widget
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lets goo yo

finite quail
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early march

rich widget
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dang

viscid ruin
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a poe player reading?

modern zinc
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🤣

finite quail
frigid wedge
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ok bed time gn

rich widget
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i won't be able to play ts 🙁

shrewd fiber
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gn <3

viscid ruin
finite quail
native abyss
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wtf i’m shittin n i’m fartin

signal hawk
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Accounting for message editing

finite quail
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massive fumble

viscid ruin
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what will 3.28 gimmick be?

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and what will happen to breach?

finite quail
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we dont know

finite quail
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this is all we know from 3.28

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because ggg posted a voice ad for poe 1

viscid ruin
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CRYING SEASON

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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

finite quail
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the weeping black sounds like some kind of area infestation or something

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
native abyss
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i love walls

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and doors

cobalt blade
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fuck doors

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worse than walls D:

native abyss
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whoa

cobalt blade
icy zinc
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das kwazi

placid knoll
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twink leveing build for witch? anyone got a guide please share.

viscid ruin
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just play lightning

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ascendancy on lightning

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get the golems

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level it up

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and then respec everything towards the build you want

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lightning ascendancy basically makes all damage count towards shock status, and also makes the shock have a higher value, so its easy 50% more final damage

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golems, you get lots of buffs

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and then just snowball

placid knoll
# viscid ruin just play lightning

right now I am using lightning arrow with widowhill bow and I am lvl 21 right now I can keep up with build but its kinda slow, I have about 30-35 chaos and I want to spend them to get my witch a better build so I can clear fast and easily.

tight plinth
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are you asking what items to buy?

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goldrim, seven league step

placid knoll
tight plinth
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cant go wrong with rolling magma into armageddon brand/cremation

placid knoll
pseudo axle
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jesus

tight plinth
pseudo axle
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wait, thats only 3c for the aura mod? lame

placid knoll
tight plinth
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oh yeah i heard explosive concoction is great for acts

pseudo axle
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we desperately need loot refreshes for some mechanics.

tight plinth
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sure if you wanna, goldrim and seven league step is usually the only things i use

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and that unique ring, i forgot the name

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the french sounding one

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le heup or something

icy zinc
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oh a frenchie

bitter bluff
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SO

How are we viewing Discords new face/id Policy?

placid knoll
pseudo axle
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Ideas for some ones that need help more than others imo:

Abyss: Add in currencies that can roll special mods on jewels. Maybe a super rare currency that can add "counts as x abyss jewel" as a line to normal jewels?
Betrayal: Add in a node that gives x% chance to replace map bosses with Safehouse bosses? Alternatively, itemize safehouse maps? Or give base Syndicate members a chance to drop Allflames.
Rogue Exiles: Replace this with Mercenaries (or, if you want to be more lame, make it so that Rogue Exiles get empowered by other league mechanics to juice them, with a chance to drop items normally from that person's pool.)
Delve: Do a general pass on this one to modernize some of Delve's loot pool. Spruce up resonators, maybe add a 5 socket resonator that can only drop from bosses? I get Delve is still profitable but it does feel almost untouched from when it first dropped, lol.

karmic hedge
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why is doryanis machinarium so expensive? i've always felt like it was kinda pointless in earlier leagues

pseudo axle
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you have to do doryanis for a certain challenge iirc

karmic hedge
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ah, that makes sense

pseudo axle
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also, add sextants back to the game as tattoos that can be applied to the atlas tree

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hire me wotc ggg

tight plinth
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this should still be viable

pseudo axle
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damn, foil perepetitia

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oh well, we farm ubers for the awakener orb profits

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the uniques and keys are a bonus

placid knoll
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is hollow palm gem setup great to use for witch while levleing with twink unqiues?

spare ore
cobalt blade
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hollow palms fine for campaign on everyone

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youll 1 shot practically everything

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jus a bit painful to get to the level 84 for new bases when you do it

tight plinth
pseudo axle
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man, I need a rich furry to buy this +1 curse ashes so I can get a woke multistrike

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alternatively I need a triple mod watchers eye to drop, idk

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my watchers eyes have been ass this league

keen veldt
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Does life force dupe idol stack with doubling scarab

pseudo axle
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probably?

modern zinc
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as inq RF, I had 2k life and ES regen
I don't think that's possible with mana RF

pseudo axle
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its additive chance I'm guessing

modern zinc
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I can't even get it to 1k net regen

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this is a defensive layer i'll miss sorely

pseudo axle
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do you have damage recoup as mana/arcane surge?

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I know you can get to VERY silly amounts of mana regen

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er

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not mana as life

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damage as mana

modern zinc
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my mana regen is just 500 with arcane surge rn

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20% recoup

pseudo axle
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yeah no you can get that WAY higher

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sec

cobalt blade
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mana RF deals dmg to your es/life

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and you can get more es than mana pool

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so you out regen it with minimal effort

pseudo axle
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oh I see

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allocating mind drinker can also help

spare ore
cobalt blade
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and your ES tends to be quite a bit higher than mana

modern zinc
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I'm not planning on using zealot's oath

strong totem
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i'm a kb noob. Am i supposed to use tornado spellslinger with this?

cobalt blade
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Well good luck sustaining it on life i guess

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life is just so much worse than es for a mana build

bold scarab
cobalt blade
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Its really hard to get that much mana regen

cobalt blade
bold scarab
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lol

pseudo axle
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why are Rational Doctrines 2 div?

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dust?

cobalt blade
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because good jewel

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crit chance and free regen if you balance both

modern zinc
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F R E E

cobalt blade
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Also cant dust jewels

pseudo axle
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ah

cobalt blade
pseudo axle
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welp, time to double corrupt one

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another one I should say

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rip, blew up

modern zinc
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ok I give up

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too hard to make mana rf as tanky as inq rf while having 2x the aoe

cobalt blade
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if you want tanky big aoe rf look into str stack scion

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you can get full screen aoe :D

modern zinc
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o.o

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that sounds most fascinating

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i'll look it up

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I didn't knew there was a str into aoe stat

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
modern zinc
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5.4m aoe

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that's even more than what I was getting on hiero rf

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Jesus

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thank you lmao

cobalt blade
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lmao

modern zinc
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the amount of unique jewels scare me

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but I can try to craft a budget version of it

full tide
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why tf are awakening scarabs so expensive?? spent the weekend making idols and now i lose money every map...nice

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every time ive made an idol set the next day prices sky rocket and i just go back to fucking maven witnesses. scarab farmers must be living in palaces rn

heady cliff
stray sedge
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It is kind of weird that idol prices would explode more and more. Doesn't the event end in a few days? Maybe speculators think idols will stick around in some way... doubt it though

heady blaze
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idols are hard to get specific mods, if a farm strat video gets some traction the idol availability gets nuked and you suddenly pay 30 div for something worth 5c few hours ago

normal hedge
full tide
dusky urchin
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the people

cobalt blade
full tide
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prices based on high end if high end gets higher as better idols are created prices go up because thats all people will farm, but the people who dont have the time suffer and must play boring af farms for any profit

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but i can join late in normal leauges and still make hundreads of divines farming enjoyable content, ig wait for 3.28 🙁

bleak shore
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Urge to make a 3rd terrible phrecia character that's a scavenger using blunderbore and tons of shrine effect idols.

modern zinc
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my favourite league mechanics are harvest for chaos rolling my jewels and expedition to get currency from tujen and gear from rog

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I like delirium, alva and ritual to juice up my maps

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that's pretty much it

stray sedge
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idk it was essentially +3 min of each charge for free, 30% more max attack damage

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all the templar classes looked fucking cool though, I planned like 20 different builds around so many foulborns lol

final owl
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harvest scarbs always end up huge $$ that happens every league

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i wouldn't choose harvest as a late league / event target myself

stray sedge
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lol idk yellow juice is probably the biggest reason

final owl
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i mean it's the main one that spikes in price late event / league which means if you're not doing a very efficient farm using the scarabs is low or no profit

stray sedge
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a friend of mine will play the shit out of this game for a week or two doing harvest and other stuff, take off for a month, come back and now instead of the lifeforce being 150-185 : 1 its like 20

final owl
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but phrecia has the problem compounded because you add idols on top of that

stray sedge
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yeah I only usually played the main league for that type of content

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harvest isn't the nicest thing to do in a 2-3 week event, you're forced to do it quite a bit for it to be worth while

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maybe its just me idk

final owl
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obviously much better off doing diviner strongboxes and crossing your fingers for good luck 😛

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man i wish you could set the in game trade default to instant trade only. it's genuinely irritating seeing the bait prices in person traders post

stray sedge
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you can, can't you?

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ill check in a few

final owl
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when you click the clear button it defaults back to instant buyout and in person trade

pseudo axle
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man I need a good int/attrib simplex and they're all insane money

final owl
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I have never once purchased a simplex. or a cogwork. or even a dusk

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i think entirely for that reason.

pseudo axle
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if my ashes sells for anywhere near the price I listed I could get it maybe

final owl
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well, i just spent 500c buying the idol i wasted 600c yesterday trying to recombinate

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things are looking decidedly.. mid.

stray sedge
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f

final owl
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discern only 62c, woo. dear rngesus, let me hit before i run out of money again, your goodest boy, me.

pseudo axle
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I got 44 div + 1400c + probably another 3k chaos in smaller moneys I could convert into chaos. I'm a bit bored of doing ubers but if its the fastest way to grind to 400~ divines...

final owl
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i did a little shaper yesteday and.. i broke even double corrupting shaper gloves 😐

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but if i resisted the gamba..

stray sedge
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thats why I ran incursion to start 😄 I got like 28 locuses

pseudo axle
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shaper is boring and too long

final owl
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no disagreement there

stray sedge
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ended up using on facebreakers and xoph amulets... +1 curse xophs was the main hit the rest were brutal

pseudo axle
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I can instant-phase base eater/exarch

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maybe I should go back to doing batches of those?

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buying the invitations is a bit of a pain

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hard to say

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I'm just trying to make money damnit

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why is it so hard ggg

final owl
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i just did a bit of shaper to mix things up

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yeah idk

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the bulk of my funds in this league so far have come from a random apothecary drop early

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before i even started doing strongboxes :/

pseudo axle
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some others I'm forgetting like the shaper gloves I corrupted

final owl
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well calm down there Exile Bezos

pseudo axle
final owl
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half your luck tbh

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is there some kind of cheat sheet for idols in terms of what mechanic affixes are possible on each size

pseudo axle
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yes

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check poedb

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also, nvm my question, got an answer

final owl
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ye i found

finite quail
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type in the search bar "Minor Idol", "Kamasan Idol", "Burial Idol", "Conqueror Idol"

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in different searches

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It'll take you to the idol basetypes and what specific mods can roll on those specific sizes

bleak shore
stray sedge
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its an awesome resource for like any content

finite quail
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Searching "Idols" will take you to the entire mod spreadsheet but without a filter for size

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So search the basetypes instead

final owl
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yeah searching by typesw

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i need a duplication idol

modern zinc
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the weapon he uses is an upgrade from mine in all fronts lmao

plain wadi
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is there any way to fix this, the bloodline is blocking the nodes that i have to refund

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wth.

final owl
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click the little button near the center

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minimises the ascendancy circle

plain wadi
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christ, thanks man

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am i dumb

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or is that bad UI design holy, i wouldve never figured it out

final owl
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i mean it's not the most obscure or confusing thing in PoE but there are a lot of those things.

plain wadi
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thanks man, appreciate it

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glgl

final owl
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nw

surreal ruin
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do skills have a level cap?

final owl
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no idea. i mean. you can only boost them so high regardless, there aren't endless sources of +levels for gems

stuck phoenix
fierce rock
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what's an easy build to get 4 stones in the phrauntlet?

final owl
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ah so there is a cap at 40 then. good to know. i was gonna say normally hard to boost any skill past 30-35

stuck phoenix
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Awakened gems hardcap at 20 as a side note

fierce rock
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TIL gems have a hard cap. still learning at however many thousands of hours i've been playing

stuck phoenix
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So ask yourself if it's worth

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Also like

surreal ruin
stuck phoenix
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You can just look this up on the wiki

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On any page of any gem

lethal bloom
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guys i have a question/need help pls
i play kinetic blast of clustering and i have the mastery +1 wand projectile (for clustering that means i get more blasts)
if i now go Runegraft of Refraction on top of it what happens to the +1 blast?

fierce rock
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i thought they just stopped counting past 40 arbitrarily, or there wasn't a way to go past 40

stuck phoenix
fierce rock
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i wonder what the highest gem level would be theoretically

surreal ruin
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in terms of relative value, yes it seems like its worth much more

stuck phoenix
surreal ruin
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then why do people only get into the absurd damage numbers with +3 jewels for comet

final owl
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boosting from 20-30 is deffs worth. i think past that you are generally sacrificing more than you are gaining

surreal ruin
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if its not worth much

tranquil umbra
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dawg this is PoE1 general

stuck phoenix
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Have you read my name

surreal ruin
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i think yuo're just wrong here

stuck phoenix
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No you

final owl
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comet doesn't exist in poe1?

surreal ruin
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oh im talking in the poopgame channel

normal hedge
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He's talking about firestorm for sure

surreal ruin
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where is the poe2 channel

stuck phoenix
finite quail
finite quail
cobalt blade
surreal ruin
final owl
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to be fair he is more or less right about poe2. build = stack +levels, that's it. you don't really need to do anything else

cobalt blade
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and it loses some other nonsense from ascends but otherwise ye you can do it on inq

lethal bloom
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my question gets overshadowed cause of game version 1 vs game (same game) version 2 beef 😭

earnest raven
finite quail
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Not enough different content to get damage from

surreal ruin
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sorry i need an easy game because i have a life. cant join yall in this nerdfest

finite quail
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We're spoiled with tons of ways to get damage

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That's why +levels in poe 2 are so high and so easy to get, to facilitate damage

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Its more of a botch solution though

final owl
finite quail
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As time passes and more avenues for damage content show up, the +levels will be nerfed over time

cobalt blade
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alternatively no powercreep its forever just +levels scaling

tranquil sedge
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good morning friendos

final owl
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i sure hope it gets better than max +levels

surreal ruin
finite quail
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Its kind of similar to diablo 2 in that regard

final owl
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do you think that will happen before or after all the classes and skills are finally in the game..

tranquil sedge
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thats a ridiculous number to see in the context of gem levels from a single stat anywhere, doesn't matter poe2 or poe1

finite quail
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Diablo 2 didn't have that many sources of getting more damage, so it cranked up how many +levels you could get on gear and charms

finite quail
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Its excessive

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But it wont stay like that

tranquil sedge
final owl
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fingers crossed. I actually like 2. well. aspects of it.

tranquil sedge
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really a rare occurence tbh

tranquil sedge
fickle glen
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Does anyone know if the armor mastery “20% chance to defend with 200% armor” stack with imbalanced guard when it proc?

cobalt blade
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also imbalanced is realllly bad

final owl
tranquil sedge
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100% chance to Defend with 200% of Armour: Similar modifiers, such as the 20% chance to Defend with 200% of Armour Armour Mastery, do not stack with Imbalanced Guard.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Imbalanced_Guard

Imbalanced Guard is a keystone passive skill that doubles armour when defending against hits, but caps damage reduction to 50%.

fickle glen
cobalt blade
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gl

tranquil sedge
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imbalanced guard is only useful if you have so little pdr that you're not hitting net 50% pdr from all sources including armor

desert turret
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Once I hit the epilogue, is the rest of the game just putting maps in?

fickle glen
finite quail
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You progress through the map tiers, one through sixteen

tranquil sedge
desert turret
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And the missing recipes are all in unique maps?

finite quail
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Content gets harder, you unlock more bosses

cobalt blade
finite quail
cobalt blade
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some are in uniques though

tranquil sedge
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delve, heist, expedition logbooks, etc. are not present on the atlas

but a large focus of the gamepay is on maps yes

finite quail
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Special crafts, called metamods, are in unique maps

fickle glen
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I’ve been surviving hits that I normally don’t thanks to imbalance guard

desert turret
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I still haven't unlocked 6 sockets or 6 linked sockets

finite quail
cobalt blade
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If you mouse over it on the bench it should tell you the map its from

finite quail
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If its a unique map, it'll tell you its name

desert turret
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Is there any advantage to alternating maps? The shipyard is much easier to navigate. Would it be a bad idea to choose that over thicket and island each time?

tranquil sedge
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at endgame people just run a few layouts they like for whatever strats they wanna farm

cobalt blade
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Different maps drop different divination cards+some mechanics just work better in certain maps but it mostly boils down to personal pref

lean urchin
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complete all the different ones, then farm the best one in your opinion

finite quail
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When you're first doing maps, what matters is completing your atlas

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Each map's bonus you complete will grant you one atlas skill point, and they go up to 115 for regular maps

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The rest of the points are unlocked by completing unique maps, which are also on the atlas

desert turret
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Each map has different divination drops?

finite quail
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Not all unique maps are on the atlas though, you'll be able to see them

finite quail
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If you want to see what map drops what cards, you can hover your cursor over a map on the atlas screen, hold ALT, and it will show the div cards it drops

final owl
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tl;dr most people scry defiled cathedral onto whatever map they wanna run a lot

finite quail
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If you want to see all of the maps that drop a specific div card, you can type the card's name into the atlas search bar on the top right I believe, and it will highlight the maps that can drop that card

cobalt blade
final owl
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but there are a couple of other maps with strong div card drops i guess

tranquil sedge
# fickle glen It’s so good with petrified blood and defy pain

petrified blood does not affect how much damage you take, it only affects how you take it (split into up front + over time portions)

similarly, defy pain also does not affect how much damage you take, it just helps you recover a bit of missing life before taking damaging hits

neither of those is damage reduction

imbalanced guard is the only one here that affects how much damage reduction you have, and that is also only useful if you have less than 50% physical damage reduction total from all sources including armor, endurance charges, etc.

finite quail
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One more thing to know is that, once you reach tier 16 maps, you will every once in a while run into this npc called "Nameless Seer", he has a chance to spawn once you kill all monsters of a random pack in the map you're running. What this guy does is two things, the first one is that he offers you a free unique out of what he has available. The second thing he does is that he lets you "Scry" divination cards from one map to another.

tranquil sedge
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that's not to say its necessarily useless, if you have extremely little armor and no endurance charges etc etc. maybe it can be useful, but if ur combining it with those other things only way to be sure its doing something for you is run with and without it to compare

fickle glen
desert turret
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I'm more interested in searching by map to see which div cards

finite quail
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How this works is that, the current map that you're running, you can have the div cards from it drop in another map of your choosing, effectively replacing that maps div card drops with the ones from the current map you're in

cobalt blade
finite quail
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Its only a thing you do once you have your atlas completed and you just run one or two maps you like

cobalt blade
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doubling your armour vs a larger hit just does fuck all compared to making you take double damage from smaller hits

tranquil sedge
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ik

final owl
finite quail
tranquil sedge
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i can see it being useful if u truly have almost no pdr and just a few k armor and ur also pathing near it anyway or something maybe

fickle glen
desert turret
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Is there a way to see if I've run a map before?

fickle glen
opaque sphinx
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i mean ur literally not

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ur surviving from something else and misattributing it to a keystone that's less than dirt

cobalt blade
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since defy pain isnt always up and the main thing you die to in this game is shotgunning

opaque sphinx
#

how much armour do u have that u think its saving u

finite quail
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If you've specifically ran a map, but not completed it, not really

cobalt blade
#

technically there is

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you can check your log file for entered x map

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example

finite quail
#

Does that keep info from days ago?

lean urchin
#

ye

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years

finite quail
#

Huh

cobalt blade
#

if you never clear it years yea

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i clear mine every once and a while but it gets quite big lol

desert turret
#

Is the range of spells fixed? I can't see the range when I hover

final owl
#

sigh. i'm gonna fail this t17 as well. Kinda liking the build but a bosser it aint :I

cobalt blade
#

and around 1.5? screens away all projectiles stop existing

final owl
#

yep fail. sick

cobalt blade
#

o7

final owl
#

just oshabi kf

opaque sphinx
#

can i introduce u to our lord and saviour, smart oshabi?

final owl
#

what is this thing

opaque sphinx
final owl
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I mean even I could complete T17 on that I am sure

grand flint
#

does quantity affects stacked deck?

final owl
#

but i am poor and none of my gambas have made me rich. even the FB dreamfeather is out of my range. nevermind the rest of it

opaque sphinx
#

its not ridiculous to get started

terse finch
#

How much play time would i need to understand what's being said?

opaque sphinx
#

just dfeather and like 4-6d in gear

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dfeather u can farm with ancient gifts, cost me like 5-6d

final owl
#

dfeather is like 15d? ish?

opaque sphinx
#

i think around there yeah

final owl
#

yeah i have zero d currently. also zero chaos

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
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dunno not bothered to check tbh

cobalt blade
#

its like 2d for a 28% i think

opaque sphinx
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its all res and a shit ton of acc tho

cobalt blade
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+can tainted cata

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tru tru

opaque sphinx
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need to fix the res elsewhere to swap

cobalt blade
#

the res might make it work

final owl
#

I mean i just sold a pair of those gloves.

undone gazelle
cobalt blade
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gloves are common

opaque sphinx
#

corrupted gloves u def don't need, regular pair is fine

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i vaaled the AS myself so kept

final owl
#

thats what i mean. i had an AS pair

opaque sphinx
#

ahh

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well thats like 1/3rd a dfeather right there

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was like 4d last i check for the glov

final owl
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3d

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i sold mine for just below

opaque sphinx
#

still solid

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u can use that to buy a jun setup

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and have 20d in an hour

cobalt blade
#

i am very much confused by people spending 3d on the AS implicit lmao

final owl
#

I turned it into one conq idol

opaque sphinx
#

since we're not jugg we don't get as much AS

cobalt blade
#

its so bad with foulborn and idt you even want to use those gloves on the howa setups

opaque sphinx
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only as comes from the one dfeather

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so the as is not awful

final owl
#

i have zero currency currently. zero. bupkis

opaque sphinx
#

on jugg its fully and 120% bait

#

but on the feather+claw set its not awful

cobalt blade
final owl
#

and admittedly starting to get bored of phrecia because I have stopped feeling able to make progress or win

cobalt blade
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(on mine because was too lazy to import you)

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id say at 50-70k acc it becomes meaningless

opaque sphinx
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i dont have 30 aps

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i have 10

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granted thats also reave so its slower by default

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but yeah u def outscale the AS with budget

cobalt blade
#

i feel like your outscaling it the momen t you get 50k acc

opaque sphinx
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thats literally all i have

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54k

cobalt blade
final owl
#

I should probably have just paid for a t17 carry. kind of an embarrassing idea when you've spend at least 40d on a character tbh

cobalt blade
#

do you want a carry i can login

opaque sphinx
#

frog allflame
scarab bisection
scarab stability
huck accompany u idol
max res niko idol
cheap shrine idol

final owl
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appreciate the thought but i'd never done a carry for anything

opaque sphinx
#

hard pressed to findi a build that cant beat t17 with all at

tranquil sedge
#

which t17 did u run

final owl
#

just fortress ofc

tranquil sedge
#

kk

cobalt blade
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itll take like 10 seconds if you do want one lol

opaque sphinx
#

are u CI

final owl
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yeah CI

opaque sphinx
#

do abom

tranquil sedge
#

why

opaque sphinx
#

abom is cat right

cobalt blade
#

no

tranquil sedge
#

no
zigg

opaque sphinx
#

fk

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do zigg

final owl
#

because it's heavy chaos dam i spose?

cobalt blade
#

its the trinity bosses

opaque sphinx
#

yeah like most of cat dmg is chaos

cobalt blade
#

cata is phys to ele afaik

opaque sphinx
#

u can ignore the skeletors for example

cobalt blade
#

in zigg

opaque sphinx
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srs

final owl
#

I have a sanctuary. i'm sure i can scrape up enough for a zigg

tranquil sedge
#

Catarina, Master of Undeath is the leader of the Immortal Syndicate. She resides in the Mastermind's Lair, which can be accessed by using a Syndicate MedallionSyndicate MedallionFollow the strands of a web to its center,and you'll find Death lying in wait...Open a portal to the Mastermind's Lair by using this item in a personal Map Device. Can o...

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this is in mastermind lair but im guessing t17 version must be same damage types?

cobalt blade
#

yeah i just know phys as extra is giga fucked in there

final owl
#

have done cata before. not sure i feel like it's easier than fortress tbh

tranquil sedge
#

ngl i thought cata had chaos damage too lol

opaque sphinx
final owl
#

but fortress boss is just deleting me

cobalt blade
#

fortress is easier

opaque sphinx
#

nah thats hard cap on wiki

tranquil sedge
#

i knew phys as extra hurt on cata
wasn't aware it wasnt chaos tho

opaque sphinx
#

those skeletors are chaos dam

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at least for normal cat

tranquil sedge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

the explodey skeletons aren't the issue anyway

opaque sphinx
#

i been farming cat the last 2 days

tranquil sedge
#

you can prevent them from spawning and take no damage

opaque sphinx
#

the skeletors dont dmg me

tranquil sedge
#

cat just hurts in general kek

cobalt blade
#

they can be blocked afaik

opaque sphinx
#

i have like 15%

#

idk maybe i smoke too much ill go run one

cobalt blade
#

im checking rn since im kinda curious

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yeah they deal damage stood still in them

opaque sphinx
#

why is volatile skeles not on poedb

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the fuck

#

thatwas the t17 tho yeah

cobalt blade
#

yea

opaque sphinx
#

damn LOL

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kulemak to the moooooooooooon

cobalt blade
#

lmfao

#

dont they need 2 for that strat

opaque sphinx
#

not sure tbh i looked at it for like 2 secs and went "aint no fuckin way im ever doin that"

modern zinc
#

I'm having trouble sustaining red maps

cobalt blade
#

id do it if you didnt need like a mirror or 2 of idols cba to craft that many

opaque sphinx
#

buy map idol

modern zinc
#

i'm in keepers

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I didn't like the phrecia ascendancies

opaque sphinx
#

make map atlas

undone gazelle
cobalt blade
#

path map tier up on your atlas tree

modern zinc
#

oh i'm stupid

#

for some reason I forgot to pick the map node on the right

final owl
#

all map monster affixes apply to bosses too right

opaque sphinx
#

honestly tho map sustain is a pain

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i cba with it

#

i either setup one tree for giga map farm and do that for a few maps

opaque sphinx
#

or i just buy bulk

cobalt blade
#

anything that doesnt specify rare monster etc applies to the boss

opaque sphinx
#

with the map tree + like blight u get a whole inv of 8mod map per map

finite quail
#

Time to check out this shipment

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wow thats fucking sad

cobalt blade
#

pog vaal ground slam

final owl
#

how does bisection work. when / where do you chose prefix / suffix

cobalt blade
#

on the map device it shows up as an option

finite quail
#

easy t17 map completions

cobalt blade
#

and hold alt on the map to see whats pre/suff

finite quail
#

it shows up as a map craft

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when you put the scarab in

final owl
#

oh i see

bold scarab
#

witch wand
shadow dagger
ranger bow
duelist sword
maurader mace
templar sceptre
scion also sword

claw/axe/2h melee weapon starter weapons when

final owl
#

ok. a fortress where the boss just has extra ES. fingers crossed phrecia doesn't throw in anything gross I spose

bold scarab
#

mostly axe and claw lel

tranquil umbra
#

berserker has an axe

bold scarab
#

nah starter berserker uses mace on beach

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they should give duelist axe

tranquil umbra
#

I mean in the artwork doofus

bold scarab
#

cuz axe is tied to bleed ... and your first skill as duelist is about bleed

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it would also mean that scion and duelist would have different starter weapons xD

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which would just leave claws owo

bold scarab
cobalt blade
#

scion should just start with every weapon and have the option of like 5 skills :3

bold scarab
#

to be fair

#

you do

cobalt blade
#

(at the beach)

bold scarab
#

you just dont get that choice until you enter town

finite quail
#

time to vendor and see what I gettt

bold scarab
#

ye

cobalt blade
#

also you can 3:1 those? ive not actually tried kek

finite quail
final owl
#

ok. successfully bisected. i need to remember that if i'm playing a squisho in future

charred condor
#

Noice

finite quail
#

Another shot

charred condor
#

Wow

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See this is why I’m investing in kingsmarch

final owl
#

i am so tired of kingsmarch i kinda never want to see it again

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even if it was the bulk of my currency in keepers :\

modern zinc
#

red maps feel way less "endgamey" than I thought tbh?

#

i'm doing them and i'm not even close to finishing the build I had planned

finite quail
#

If only people were selling more shit runegrafts

#

But stock is drying up

final owl
#

maps don't really feel endgamey until t16 8mod with a supporting atlas / idols

modern zinc
#

oof

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that sounds scary

#

only mod that scares me is lower regen

final owl
#

easy enough to avoid if you buy / sort your maps with regex

tranquil sedge
charred condor
tranquil sedge
#

even accounting for tattoos and stuff, 50m shipments are not even 1 div/hr, and excluding them its like 0.5 div/hr

final owl
#

how much time are you counting for these hours with 50m chips

tranquil sedge
#

thats how long 25m crops takes

final owl
#

right but you don't have to be there for 7-8 days straight doing anything right

tranquil sedge
#

but my point is

heady cliff
tranquil sedge
#

if ur worrying about gold or dont like micromanaging even the little bit there is there (there's not much)

final owl
#

i'll grant you for a limited time event like phrecia they don't make heaps of sense

tranquil sedge
#

then its not a big deal to disregard it

charred condor
#

Plus kingsmarch is one of the very, very, (very) few places in Poe set during daytime

tranquil sedge
#

i would still absolutely recommend doing it for anyone willing

grand flint
#

is 5 d enough for a mid harvest farm?

tranquil sedge
#

but its nbd if you dont

tranquil sedge
final owl
charred condor
#

I thought that the bathhouse hideout was set in daytime but noooo

grand flint
charred condor
#

Everything must be all dark and spooky

grand flint
#

wtih idols i meant

charred condor
#

That’s one of my least favorite thing about the game

final owl
#

the cheap version of any strat is just going to be single mod idols. i have no idea what harvest single mod prices look like though

tranquil sedge
#

5d should definitely be more than enough to get you at least a full set of (assuming you have all idol slots) of chance to not wilt idols x8 (10%+ rolls), of which 2 have chance for addtional harvest suffix (total 100% between 2 idols)

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and that would be enough to start doing crop rota

lucid gale
charred condor
#

It’s not daytime tho

tranquil sedge
#

i dunno how much div/map you'd make off just that, but running that in t16 8mod maps should certainly be profitable

grand flint
#

im gonna check some idols prices

charred condor
#

I would use lush hideout but it’s kinda hard to navigate

tranquil sedge
#

the 2 idols that have both wilt + additional harvest might be a little more expensive

#

the remaining 6, i dont think you can afford a second suffix on that budget

grand flint
#

bruh my farm rn is stacked decks and im getting only 30-50 per map, i need currency haha

tranquil sedge
#

so i can only speak from secondhand experience and what i remember doing harvest in first phrecia

#

but its not like is gonna be a fkin loss running harvest

grand flint
#

oh alr

final owl
#

depends what scarabs you run doesn't it

tranquil sedge
#

8mod t16s or self rolled t17s, at least doubling scarab at minimum, then rest 4 scarab slots are whatever u want - e.g. 2x monstrous lineage if they are cheap, maybe a risk if its cheap + ur build's strong enough to handle it OR just use normal/uber atziri frags in all 4 slots for 20-40% quant

charred condor
#

Also I found a aflliction magic find farming guide that uses like compasses

tranquil sedge
charred condor
#

Not interested in using it but saw on the wiki that compasses don’t exist anymore

tranquil sedge
#

yes.

#

compasses were just itemized sextant modifiers
both sextants and compasses got removed

#

thats also when scarabs got reworked

charred condor
#

#

Scarabs are fun

#

I am using a blight settlers farming league start guide and used a shaper influence and legion scarab

#

Which was kinda chaotic

#

Almost died twice

grand flint
#

do i need 100% chance not to wilt? or how many % i can only stack?

cobalt blade
#

jus ends up being more efficient

tranquil sedge
#

thats why look for 10-11%

grand flint
#

saw 1 mod 12% wilt 50 c

#

alr

tranquil sedge
#

i mean

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more is better ofc, if u can get a few 12% thats good too

#

just make whatever you want work on your budget 😄

grand flint
#

220c for 10% not to wilt and 46% chance to havce more harvest

#

damn

tranquil sedge
#

then 9 or 8% if u have to np
the extra harvest is rather big for crop rota

#

idols are just like gear
start with what u can afford then work ur way up if you enjoy it

vital venture
#

How much time is left in the season. I just came back and sort of burned myself out getting through the campaign.

tranquil sedge
#

dunno exact end date for 3.27 tho keepers 3.27 ends march 2nd

cobalt blade
#

march 2nd

tranquil sedge
#

oh yea its in the post whoops

vital venture
#

Also, is there a way to level up a side character quickly without a squad. I know this is probably asked a lot, but I sort of got bored of my character quicker than expected

final owl
#

plenty of strong leveling builds that make campaign cake

cobalt blade
#

you can grab twink gear to level faster - mostly seven league steps for 50% inc move speed

tranquil sedge
#

twink gear for campaign

5-ways afterwards (tho if anyone's still selling those prices must be wack)

#

pick zoomy build and buy some twink gear and rush it

hard cliff
#

@tranquil sedge

lucid gale
dawn dirge
#

lifesprig and ghostwrithe will laste u till late campaign

hard cliff
#

if you can get a rotation up cowards trial was really nice exp a few days ago and just 13c a pop

#

just buy the one with a few mods on it and high level

tranquil sedge
#

true thats a method too

hard cliff
#

I was suprised at how well it worked

grand flint
#

btw do i need like harvest has a chance to become tier 3? or something like that

hard cliff
#

I wonder why that won't work early next league

hard cliff
#

you want chance to not wither

#

otherwise sure why not

grand flint
#

thank you

modern zinc
#

this game is so funny

#

I have 144k ehp but I still don't feel tanky enough

#

haven't died it's been a while but i'm still not satisfied

final owl
#

man i better hit something soon :i rngesus pls

#

ehp doesn't always directly correlate with tankyness i guess

modern zinc
#

it's all block

final owl
#

praise jeebus a medallion. we are saved from penury

modern zinc
#

naisu

worldly bridge
#

i think

#

i may be done with phrecia

#

farming harvest doesnt feel like its returnign anything and i dont wanna resign myself to 10 days of medicore grinding to maybe get my first mb

final owl
#

yeah i'm gonna have to start hitting some lucky drops or something, my interest level is running out

worldly bridge
#

ig i could farm until i had an apothecary

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then gamba

final owl
#

i don't thing strongboxes are a good choice of mechanic for me. I get deleted by exploding boxes so frequently ~_~

final owl
#

I'll check 3 in a row and then somehow miss explode on the 4th. you would think i would just assume they all do by now :I

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so long between hits with diviners. i guess this is why people mostly go arcanist

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oh the single slot arcanist idols are a bit $.

umbral crag
#

Hows your kf so far?

#

Havrnt played in a while coz been busy ahha

final owl
#

pretty decent i think, though lacking in tank

#

great map blaster though

#

honestly kinda just feels like a slower flickerstrike you have some control over

umbral crag
#

Nvr played flicker so cant comment kek

final owl
#

flicker is hard to beat for a map blaster. but it straight up sucks for some things. like the defense breaches

umbral crag
#

What uve been farming?

#

Idk if im jumping back into phrecia tho, gonna be busy af @.@

final owl
#

hurm. i was doing lost shipments for a while, got bored of it. switched to diviner strongboxing but havent had heaps of luck getting hits

#

considering a switch to arcanist boxes instead now just because i figure they're more reliable :I

#

gonna cost most of my funds to switch but whatever I guess, i need to find something that makes $$

#

i can feel my patience for phrecia slowly evaporating..

modern zinc
#

:3 I just finished my first t16 map

#

and unlocked my first favourite map slot

#

i'm surprised I made it this far with inq rf

#

I think my next build is going to be bleed wander glad

final owl
#

one day the seer will have an actually good item for me

#

well, 6 chaos from arcanist boxes already. yndas here we come

umbral crag
#

Im just annoyed that for kf youd have to open each strongboxes one by one kek

#

I might just make a funny spark bog shaman for it

undone gazelle
final owl
#

oh i can't afford yndas and don't think i'll switch to ward anyway if i could

umbral crag
#

But meh

#

The squishiness makes me too sad

final owl
#

well nice, i just dropped a medallion which saved me from complete poverty which i have now largely reinvested in switching to arcanist rather than diviner strongboxes

#

the squishyness is pretty high yeah :I

#

it's why i want / wanted to try the ward version I guess

final owl
undone gazelle
final owl
#

nope! as usual i got side tracked. but also have no money currently anyway

#

in the process of crossing fingers and trying to make some again :I

final owl
#

it was a nice boost but man, 4d doesn't go all that far 😛

hard cliff
#

I'm down bad

final owl
#

dang. fair. that dps does not look particularly healthy

hard cliff
#

that's just one shard

every shield fires 22 though how many hit is hard to calculate lol

final owl
#

I actually still need to get a decent wrath watchers eye and switch anger to wrath. keep making my money disappear trying to make more money though :\

hard cliff
#

I can do white t16

#

and really good boss dps

final owl
#

oh right fair, sticker dps doesn't mean a lot

hard cliff
#

too hard to calculate

#

it's ok but not popping off like crazy but I'm not been good farm much or play much

cobalt blade
final owl
#

yeah i actually had way better luck before i got to the point of having any proper idol setup

undone gazelle
final owl
#

build is greatly improved after switching to your tree though, do appreciate that.

final owl
#

d'oh apparently i needed that 24 int.

#

Aul taxi 10d carry 20d apparently

fickle glen
#

I’ve been reading about black holes lately and they sound terrifying, I wonder if they are as terrifying in this game as they are in real life

#

Am I able to make a black holes the size of the screen on this game?

undone gazelle
dense rock
#

basic bitch black holes are not even that terrifying... Its the rogue black holes you gotta watch out for 😄

final owl
undone gazelle
fickle glen
final owl
#

haha duh. well. ok. that is simpler

#

up and running. I did have the boots suffix thought. not sure how i convinced myself int was a prefix

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

undone gazelle
elder marlin
fickle glen
#

My cat’s ears went radar mode when she heard jack the axe talk lol

fickle glen
final owl
elder marlin
fickle glen
undone gazelle
elder marlin
final owl
#

well, 59% more ev isn't going to hurt i spose

#

finally an actually tink from the tree. been feeling like i used up all my tree love in keepers :I

#

tree is weird. it feels so weird to not want to even bother picking up a 6L chest with T1 suppress

stuck phoenix
#

Pick up to vendor

copper vale
#

Hear me out 60% more evasion is better than 59

stuck phoenix
#

You're too rich for 20 fusings huh

final owl
#

oh i vendored it all. but it's not like a handful of fusings are actually worth anything

final owl
hoary scarab
grand flint
#

hope they extend this phrecia

#

i want to try more builds haha

final owl
#

doesn't look like thats happening

sly minnow
#

what am I suppose to do atp

scarlet jacinth
heady cliff
brazen vector
#

Ride the waves

sly minnow
#

wuthering latencies

final owl
#

well, squeaked over 13m dps now. staying a live still a bit challenging >.>

elder marlin
#

Holy fuck tainted oil is 6d

final owl
#

is that good or bad

elder marlin
#

I hate blight

final owl
#

there mighth be less painful ways to make 6d then?

dense rock
frigid wedge
#

how deranged would i have to be to scale indigon without using spell dmg

#

and by without using i mean no kinetic skills, no whisperer, no spells

brazen vector
#

Very

frigid wedge
#

ideal for 3.28 leaguestarter then

#

now i just need to figure out how to get flat based on int or mana

#

without having to compromise widowhail

heavy charm
#

There's a LEAK already? 🤔

frigid wedge
#

obv

cobalt blade
#

P sure onemanaleft played a scuffed mfa setup in the pohx league before phrecia on hiero could prob get some inspiration there

frigid wedge
#

yeah

#

but i dont imagine he still scaled indigon

cobalt blade
#

he did

#

mfa has more damage mult based on mana spent so its still the bis hat lmao

frigid wedge
#

yeah

#

arcane cloak uptime is weird tho

#

but ye i planned to mfa the next league as an int mana stacker

#

instead of dex mana

#

or whatever he did on pohx

#

wanna make a mirror quiver that looks absolutely useless

#

xD

brazen vector
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

found it

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

ye

#

most likely gonna get flat lightning quiver

#

or maybe flat per int bow

#

but wanna keep widowhail

steel light
#

fuck yes finally ScuffParty

cobalt blade
#

I think widowhail prob still beats flat per int quiver scaling is absurd

frigid wedge
#

also maybeeeeee an excuse to finally use genius clusters

#

idk if i like the idea of doing it on hiero

#

the actual benefit of going hiero seems eh

cobalt blade
#

transfiguration of mind+aoe+mana as es+you get good forbidden jewels

steel light
#

missed the int, but at least didn't 💣 ScuffParty double plus temple ScuffParty

frigid wedge
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yeah but u dont rlly need the aoe for storm rain and transfig is already an anoint

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he doesnt even use forbidden jewels

cobalt blade
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he def wouldve stolen in a non pohx league lol

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righteous providence would be my guess for absurd crit

frigid wedge
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maybe

frigid wedge
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i feel like id prefer to click scion and grab deadeye plus sabo

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or smth

cobalt blade
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mm that do also be an angle

frigid wedge
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or just

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click deadeye

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id want some amount of zoomies

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and clear

cobalt blade
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Bow builds dont really get zoomies without hh/mb imo tailwinds not enough on its own lol

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hard limited by no good move skill

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(tho my definition of zoomies may be higher 250+ ms or big as leap slam/whirling)

frigid wedge
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yeah ik but i hate no movement speed AND no movement skill

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id rather have a bit of zoom

cobalt blade
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Yeeeeeh pure pain

frigid wedge
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than none

brazen vector
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why is my withering step red instead of green

umbral crag
frigid wedge
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maybe i take that one node that scales arcane surge on mana spent and use scornflux

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they have int mana and all res anyway

brazen vector
frigid wedge
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i could solve clear flat with storm riders and shapers touch though kek

steel light
frigid wedge
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btw i now officially have a whole 50k dps

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according to ninja

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yay

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xD

brazen vector
frigid wedge
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true

steel light
brazen vector
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harvest footies

frigid wedge
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i want footprint

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;-;

brazen vector
frigid wedge
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how do i find her

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-# and not get attached

brazen vector
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idk, dont brits have a mating call?

dense rock
brazen vector
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OH BLIMEY

frigid wedge
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not in my city

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i went to leeds for a bit tho and there was just hoards of goth women

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.-.

scarlet jacinth
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What an interesting conversation

brazen vector
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@frigid wedge I KNOW HOW I CAN LEVEL YOU

cobalt blade
brazen vector
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I have like 6999 synth maps

frigid wedge
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naca we should do a round tour of Leeds city centre