1┃general

[opaque sphinx]

yeh theres not much in phrecia

only one is es foul

dunno

its a good shield but its an early game shield

guess like 3d and drop it a little every few h

[latent rampart]

that falbourn tho

the real one worth a lot more

[opaque sphinx]

yes thats why i priced urs at 3 and not 2

[ocean field]

yeah I would say 3

[latent rampart]

a regular surrender is 1 div

[opaque sphinx]

man if u know better then go price it what do u want from me 😂

[ocean field]

if you think it is worth higher price it as 5

then lower it if it does not sell in a week

[latent rampart]

im just trying to collect info, ty tho i appreciate it

[cobalt blade]

i would check if theres any +2 generic aoe and +1 regular socketed

[opaque sphinx]

how do i taxi aul

[latent rampart]

it doesnt even exist in keepers

holy

[cobalt blade]

invite them to party they sit at the start of the delve like in the zone with aul

and they can just do the run after you kill him

[cobalt blade]

(next to the cart)

[slim gorge]

hello i just started playing this game yesterday , and advice ?

[cobalt blade]

have fun doing a possible 6 man aul depending on how many ur taxing

[smoky arch]

Does the Physical Damage Reduction from Aspect of the Crab affect damage over time?

[cobalt blade]

yes

p sure its just generic PDR

[solar smelt]

So I think im gonna go whisperer with a frenzy shot and support on windburst and try to make that work. Made a mistake by not taking the charge ascendency node first though ugh

Now I need to spend money to respec

Also, does every campaign boss summon all of the unique mobs you can fight in the act before you can fight them?

[opaque sphinx]

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if converted damage can be scaled twice?

[burnt wharf]

server just go down?

[opaque sphinx]

taxi was only 2d on trade 820

compared to 5-6d on tft LULW

[whole bluff]

820 rocks, although there's no guarantees

[latent rampart]

no

[whole bluff]

I like selling on 820, just like, pay after you get it only if you get it, I trust you as long as it doesn't actually cost me and you're not pulling funny stuff over and over

[opaque sphinx]

fair

[ocean folio]

generally no, do you have a specific example?

[opaque sphinx]

at 2d it was worth the risk imo

[whole bluff]

Definitely, since getting an aul can be pain

[cobalt blade]

damage as extra would apply at both steps

ex 5% of damage as extra chaos 5% of your lightning would be gained and then 5% of cold if your converting to cold

[opaque sphinx]

yeh, dude loaded me into mine in primeval biome and req'd trade there

i figured it was most likely legit and if not meh

[cobalt blade]

oh you meant taxi as in the people who get an aul and just keep logging to save it for multiple ppl lmfao

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

nobody get loot but u can get bloodline

[cobalt blade]

ye

[whole bluff]

Buying an Aul seems like one of the wonkier trades, ngl. Might have done tft on that, but prolly not for a 200% price hike

[opaque sphinx]

exactly lol

[cobalt blade]

i just yoinked mine from lance well he was delving xdd

[opaque sphinx]

i was just checking price on 820 and dude pm'd me right away like "2d taxi i go"

[cobalt blade]

fuck paying for that

[whole bluff]

Neat

[opaque sphinx]

when they hit u with the broken english u know its a hardworkin mans

goodbye shrines

hello 50 grace eff, and immune to everything

[whole bluff]

You are immune

[opaque sphinx]

[whole bluff]

I just got 24k from auras and flasks

70% evade

[opaque sphinx]

huge

wait i have no ev roll on my fglasks

[whole bluff]

Definitely worth it

[cobalt blade]

big ev

[cobalt blade]

flask+mastery+shapers touch lol

grace overrated

[opaque sphinx]

added an ev roll to the silver

[opaque sphinx]

nasty

u doing aristocrat version?

[cobalt blade]

yaa

[opaque sphinx]

hot

[cobalt blade]

got a lil bit of int

[opaque sphinx]

damn lmfao

my character still on that mega budget grind

[cobalt blade]

holy

[opaque sphinx]

not bad for a 5link reave on 1800 int tho

and we got tons of QoL

[cobalt blade]

not even overflowed tool tip D:

[fickle glen]

I am thinking about when you increase physical damage and convert it to fire and also increase fire damage

[opaque sphinx]

thats gonna be a bit

im literally using giga budget

[worldly bridge]

wtf how

[cobalt blade]

if i swap to mamba over ls

lol

[opaque sphinx]

wanna see my only 12p cluster

its hot i promise

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[fickle glen]

What’s the highest you think you can get those attributes equally?

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

yooo 12 evasion

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

atleast 1600-1700?

probably more

[worldly bridge]

how do you even get over like 2k

[opaque sphinx]

?

money

12p clusters
helicals/reflected helicals
splits
bound by destiny
mastery jewels
inf helm/chest
simplex

[fickle glen]

That’s not bad, I plan on an all attributes build for my scion

[opaque sphinx]

sion will be much less

cuz they do not get an extra 40% of each

from the tree

[worldly bridge]

what are any of these

words

they dont exist

[opaque sphinx]

here

[worldly bridge]

the only thing i recognize is clusters

[cobalt blade]

https://pobb.in/ZBTovZts9tMk alotta gear

[worldly bridge]

AND YOURE CI

[cobalt blade]

i need to fix one of those clusters sincei t has str over int and int is quite a bit better

[worldly bridge]

HOW

[cobalt blade]

but its fine

[cobalt blade]

naturally

[fickle glen]

Where did you gather that from

[opaque sphinx]

aristocrat does

and scion does not

[worldly bridge]

omg they made dreamfeather even better

[cobalt blade]

aristocrat gets this

[opaque sphinx]

¿

[cobalt blade]

although i will note you can get over 5k of a single att in normal leagues

[opaque sphinx]

u can

my jugg is about 4k in keepers

[cobalt blade]

just need to go for triple ring

yeah same

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/xuUfWdJgudLf

[cobalt blade]

4070 int

[opaque sphinx]

u can get it higher

[fickle glen]

Is that the additional ascendancy?

[cobalt blade]

https://pobb.in/XCX_yq8hVZvx

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[worldly bridge]

how tf do you even make any of these items

jesus

[opaque sphinx]

im missing mastery jewels/grafts/and 3rd helical

[fickle glen]

Didn’t know scion can’t get it, that’s sad

[cobalt blade]

:3

[opaque sphinx]

money

[cobalt blade]

actually alot of this shit is easy to make

[opaque sphinx]

but yeah its easier than it seems

i def thought the helm was gonna be like 200d to make

shit was like 50

[cobalt blade]

boots are just essence spam chest is dense spam into eldritch chaos hat was fundamental fossil spam i hit that hat in like 80 fossils including prefixes

so i just went fuck it and kept

(for the phrecia char)

and clusters are alt spam

rest is uniques

oh and helical is essence into mist but not really mandatory just +a few hundred att

[split maple]

that helmet is kinda unethical

[fickle glen]

Not sure how you live with those negative resistances

[cobalt blade]

its only taking fire damage

[opaque sphinx]

its not that hard to hit

[cobalt blade]

nah its budget af

[opaque sphinx]

the fact he made it with funda

she

he?

[cobalt blade]

she

[opaque sphinx]

i cant remember sorry

[cobalt blade]

all g

[opaque sphinx]

but yeah that part is unethical

[split maple]

the including prefixes part

[cobalt blade]

ye i wish abyss sockets hadnt been fucking 8d when i was crafting that hat though

wouldve liked abyss over the reduced att requirements lmfao

[opaque sphinx]

valid lmao

wait its 8d for fossil?

holy

[cobalt blade]

it was

idk if it is anymore

[opaque sphinx]

2d ea atm

damn

still not nice

[uncut lodge]

The prismatics are converting cold/lightning as fire dmg

[whole bluff]

Hmm. Delve worth then?

I would have really liked 8d per fossil

Imagine being worth 8d

[opaque sphinx]

remember u gotta delve for like 12 hrs before u see one

[split maple]

that needs both proper depth and getting hollow per hour

[whole bluff]

I guess

[cobalt blade]

wouldnt recommend hollow farming unless your at around 600+depth lmao

they are not super common below that and even at 600 its just okay

[whole bluff]

Is faceted not 1d too? Cuz then it seems not as good

[split maple]

semi related - whats the best way rn to get a lot of random ass gloves/boots with abyssal socket for recombi feeder

[opaque sphinx]

aby socket idols

[split maple]

in keepers 😛

[whole bluff]

Faceted usually is the expensive one guarded by hot argus

[cobalt blade]

check for bricked fractures on trade

if your in ssf good luck

[opaque sphinx]

ssf

[cobalt blade]

more or less

[opaque sphinx]

yeh p much take the node and prayge

[cobalt blade]

bit of thought its probably harvest swapping 10 fossils at a time though

[split maple]

edifice/profound worth it?

[opaque sphinx]

i wonder how much harbest that is

[split maple]

weight there is rly ass

[cobalt blade]

pretttty sure you dont drop any abyss socket gear from that

[split maple]

did fossils swaping for gildeds and didnt see socket once in like 50k lifeforce

[cobalt blade]

yeah its ass but its still better than delving for them

[grizzled lily]

when will teaser season start chat

i want more syndicate buffs lowkey

[split maple]

like when i did some alch n go abyss i got like glove or boots per map

would like smh just a lil a bit faster

[whole bluff]

I want to understand how the new syndicate works

[opaque sphinx]

everyone rank 3

spam house

[whole bluff]

Am I not supposed to rival every member with every member?

[opaque sphinx]

get medal

kill cat

sell alflame

stonks

[cobalt blade]

ngl ive never read that node on the tree after searching

thats a cursed node

[opaque sphinx]

[split maple]

so if that works with them edifice minor spires 🤔

[cobalt blade]

yeah that could work

[scarlet jacinth]

I still find the news post most confusing.. it says phrecia "next Thursday" do they mean this week or next week? 19th right?

[opaque sphinx]

all i know is more spoder web more gooder

[split maple]

i just want t1 light res + int + sockets so idk 3-5 feeders per result on avg?

[cobalt blade]

they mean the 19th

[split maple]

buncha more since need to isolate sock first

[cobalt blade]

you can split to isolate

[whole bluff]

Betrayal is good exp. And stuff from every master pops upp on like every idol cuz prefixes are just add mechanic X. So Jun seems good

[cobalt blade]

prob worth farming beasts for that

[split maple]

yea got a stash tab of spoders

them morigan hunts be good for beasties 😄

[opaque sphinx]

yeh i bought my setup for like 300c

already made 50d with it

[cobalt blade]

youu could go for 1/4 fractures with isolated abyss socket prefix only fracturing? use non native recombing to keep saving the abyss socket

[opaque sphinx]

safehouse every 3-4 map

[cobalt blade]

depending on exactly how few bases you actually end up d ropping for specifically boots or w/e

[opaque sphinx]

kulemaks are up to like 7d atm so its a money printer killing cat

[cobalt blade]

(like 3p 1s)

[split maple]

ik, but i am more thinking about just doing suffix fully with recombi there, should still be faster to farm feeders than fracs

like nnn transfer to good base, then slam with int into lightning int

[cobalt blade]

mm jus assuming you havea good few frorbs already

fair enough if you dont

[split maple]

kinda burning them as i get them 😄

[ocean folio]

that works. when you said scaled twice i understood it as something like "increased elemental damage" scaling cold damage that is converted to fire damage twice, which wouldnt work.

[cobalt blade]

haha understandable

[stiff coral]

whos betting on the new league being ai slop again hastily put together to say they gave poe1 a bone??

[cobalt blade]

clarification here its added as 1 pool of damage^

500% inc phys 100% inc fire is just treated as 600% inc damage

and they dont multiply off each other

[scarlet jacinth]

Im more curious why you found this league "ai slop" where was ai even used?

[fickle glen]

So it’s not scaled twice got it

[cobalt blade]

ya

[worldly bridge]

i cant believe my stupid ass took chaos dmg during flask on a low life leech build

and bricked a map

gotta be a first fo everything ig

-1 woke

dropped a t17 at lesat

[cobalt blade]

o7 couldnt jus unequip ur flasks?

[worldly bridge]

coruscating elixer

low life + es

so no 😭

[stiff coral]

compared to the poe quality of old you cant call it anything but ai slop

[cobalt blade]

ahhh f

[worldly bridge]

maybe because breach has so many hands

as you know AI struggles with hands

[whole bluff]

I think they'd need more investment into AI than they put into recent leagues to have an AI that could produce recent leagues

Though I do think that at minimum secrets bosses should have passed back and forth between teams a few more times

[stiff coral]

hmm theres a good chance even if ai didnt make it it came up with that dogpile

[whole bluff]

Until names made sense, all mechanics visible, etc

[scarlet jacinth]

Aah yes the hands! It must be the hands! Haha

[lucid gale]

[alpine moss]

Anyone know why people are struggling in the alt league?

[scarlet jacinth]

I had great fun in the last few leagues.

[whole bluff]

I struggled cuz I tried making all new stuff out of questionable ideas, as usual. Add to that boss enrage, extra map mods, jumping directly into reds, it made the game harder while I usually already make it hard enough without extras. So tldr; phrecia is harder baseline? Even if more rewarding?

[halcyon prawn]

breach in every zone sucks

[cobalt blade]

enrage vs bad builds kinda hard

[worldly bridge]

O_o

[alpine moss]

Yeah. Hilock is not hard though. even with all this new stuff i beat hiim eith eas

[whole bluff]

I did too yup. I don't know whether my low faith is actually really deserved. But I honestly already mourned poe1 and I'm unlikely to do so again

[alpine moss]

tf

[worldly bridge]

i wish GGG would make these all drop at the end of the plot so i can get that sweet tink

[cobalt blade]

same though keepers is where i had the least fun

no real reason to make giga investment characters and people werent printing enough valdos to run back to back lmao

[alpine moss]

spare some dollars...

[brazen vector]

[alpine moss]

how....

[worldly bridge]

ok so

i was where you were, compeltely broke

i just kept ID'ing idols

and it snowballed from there

[brazen vector]

boils down to: farm what you like and keep at it

[alpine moss]

nice. im stll kinda new i only got my first div four months ago

[worldly bridge]

yeah this p much

[whole bluff]

I hit an amethyst ring with t1 life, t1 ES, t2 str, t2 all res, open suffix, from orb of unraveling. That was nice

[worldly bridge]

i just kinda kept playing jun and incursion with a few map idols in a second slot

do you have anything to help you price check?

[alpine moss]

i like running abyss

abyss and shrine stack.

[worldly bridge]

it never is...

always deciving

WAIT NO THIS IS GLUTTON RAAAAA im a fake fan

[brazen vector]

getting deceived twice :D

deceiver is a heavy belt

[grand flint]

what farm can i do other than ritual with flicker strike?

[brazen vector]

harbingers, destructive play, harvest would be my first guesses

[grand flint]

harvest hmm

what idols do i need for that? im kinda broke rn...

[heavy cloud]

Can we expect wasd for 3.28 ?

[opaque sphinx]

dumbest lookin tree NA

[cobalt blade]

no

it wont happen until theyve atleast converted every mtx between both games and can start porting the character rigs basically

[tranquil sedge]

dont expect it for years

its not a priority or impotant feature for poe1

[heavy cloud]

Erf
Impossible to enjoy Poe1 now that I tried wasd

[whole bluff]

Once all of poe1 is on poe2, I suppose they can just convert the graphics and make poe1 4.0

[fickle glen]

Some one here said that (crave the slaughter) does not work with (rite of ruin) berserker ascendancies, is this true?

[cobalt blade]

pls no i wouldnt be able to play D:

the fire graphics in 2 destroy my pc

+a few others

[tranquil sedge]

you'll get used to it in about 10 minutes if you start playing again tbh

[worldly bridge]

hey srev

[fickle glen]

But when I activate berserk I get a huge speed bonus

[worldly bridge]

its working i think

[tranquil sedge]

🙂

[worldly bridge]

spent 12d on these maps in scarabs mostly

so i hope this is already making profit

20 woke bugs are expensive

[tranquil sedge]

12D?

[cobalt blade]

crave scales with rage effect

[worldly bridge]

they were like 88c or smth

[tranquil sedge]

whats ur idols at

pic of idol summary please

[fickle glen]

So they lied to me

[cobalt blade]

yup

[worldly bridge]

not even optimal

[tranquil sedge]

ye just give pic

[cobalt blade]

though you might need to get to 100% rage effect to get any benefit i cant remember if attack speed works at 1.5%

[tranquil sedge]

and what map tiers are you running

[fickle glen]

Why wouldn’t it?

[worldly bridge]

only relavant ones

im missing 3 conqs

[cobalt blade]

most things dont work at decimal numbers

[worldly bridge]

ran out of money

[cobalt blade]

has to be full int

[tranquil sedge]

what tier of maps

[worldly bridge]

t16 racecourse

[tranquil sedge]

8mods?

[whole bluff]

How much did you pay for the idols so far? Just wondering if I have any chance at this yet

[worldly bridge]

20%

nah just alch

[tranquil sedge]

this is holding you back a lot

ideally run this in t17s

[worldly bridge]

maps expensive ;v;

[tranquil sedge]

bro

[worldly bridge]

and that means i need an actual regex

[tranquil sedge]

ur dumping more in scarabs than in the map

[worldly bridge]

and like

actually need to read

[tranquil sedge]

go buy some 8mod t16 and a few t17 maps

go run those

you'll see a big difference

roll the t17s for just packsize and quant thats it

normal chisels are fine

[worldly bridge]

maps are free so yeah

?

https://pobb.in/OwgMtffvaIRQ

[tranquil sedge]

don't fall into the trap 😄

[worldly bridge]

idk is this enough for 17s

dmg is *probably fine?

[whole bluff]

Guesstimate:
900c yellow
600c blue (?)
400c purp (?)
Roughly 12d revenue?

[worldly bridge]

uhhhhh i wanna say like 40 max?

i dont remember

[cobalt blade]

holy la heups

[worldly bridge]

heup the goat

[whole bluff]

Hmm, still way outta my league

[worldly bridge]

listen to srev

you get some snowballing going

they were right about that

[tranquil sedge]

its not free if ur actively losing money (by earning less than you should be) by not running better maps

[cobalt blade]

thats probably enough for 17's with 1 tank mod though

[tranquil sedge]

how much is a t16 8mod map

how much is a t17

[worldly bridge]

fortress is like 20-30

[whole bluff]

If you do t16, at least make them 20q (or 30q with bestiary) and 6 mod

Idk if you do 6mod minimum?

[worldly bridge]

ive been selling mine

[cobalt blade]

harvest is like the one time id consider citadel as your map

[worldly bridge]

idk how to roll maps

[cobalt blade]

dont strictly need to kill boss and the layouts somewhat runnable

[worldly bridge]

im too afraid too because that means mods that can brick me

[tranquil sedge]

chisel alch vaal is the bare minimum at ur level of investment

[worldly bridge]

so i just... have never ran maps

vaal can brick them

so i dont

[tranquil sedge]

who cares

[worldly bridge]

i never run corrupted

[tranquil sedge]

just discard the map

[worldly bridge]

me

[tranquil sedge]

get a new one

throw it to mapper

[cobalt blade]

vaal isnt mandatory for t17 harvest farming

[tranquil sedge]

sell it

[worldly bridge]

well at THAT point maps cost money

[tranquil sedge]

discard it

[cobalt blade]

its mandatory for t16 though

[whole bluff]

Chaos into decent 5 mod and ex or any runnable 6 mod and go, can kinda work. Plus craicic vassal in bestiary

[worldly bridge]

if youre just item on cursor destryoed

[cobalt blade]

t17 on average you can get more quant chaosing

[tranquil sedge]

ive already said it a couple times so im not gonna go it a third time
but ur falling into a super easy noob trap here

[cobalt blade]

(like the mods that give big ass quant your vaal would roll over)

[tranquil sedge]

ur skimping out on a huge source of increased loot by running crappy maps

this is fine when its like day 3 of leaguestart

its not fine when u have 40d of idols and ur spending 100c a map

[worldly bridge]

i just assumed it took a while to get return

it makes sense

[whole bluff]

Ngl, I don't like mapping, maybe to a big degree due to map mods, but the maps you get should just be so much less fun if not properly juiced

[cobalt blade]

you unironically make like double on 8 mod t16's than not 8 mod

esp if your getting altars first

[tranquil sedge]

the easiest way to be convinced is just see it for yourself honestly

go run 5-10 8mod t16 maps, buy them from trade instead of making them yourself that's fine too so you can avoid no regen or whatever

and then go run 5-10 t17 maps you roll yourself

then compare the loot u get vs your current t16s

[worldly bridge]

it cantbe that different ima be so real

[scarlet jacinth]

Take an extreme examples strongboxes with scarab prices on t17s are 300~ chaos a map. Sounds like allot but the increased loot and cost will increase your profit. Even though you spent allot per map

[tranquil sedge]

it is

[worldly bridge]

like i see streamers and thye always have the uber giga juiced stuff and THATS what it sounds like yall are saying

but what youre really saying is there is stuff in between

which is 8mod 16's

[tranquil sedge]

t16 -> 8 mod t16 / t16.5 -> 8 mod t16.5 / t17 -> 8mod t17

thats sorta roughly maybe one way to view it

my 'endgame' farm since t17s were added is just go run harvest in t17s as soon as i can kill the map bosses too

and that like nearly doubles my div/hr over running 8mod t16s, coz boss frags + more juice + other rng loot

[cobalt blade]

for harvest 16.5 baaarely matters since iirc none of the petal abilities are good

[cobalt blade]

and it ofc doesnt scale with more currency

[opaque sphinx]

free moni

[tranquil sedge]

yea i wouldn't run t16.5 for harvest either

[worldly bridge]

i always just explode in 17s

[tranquil sedge]

sell and just run t17 instead at that point

[cobalt blade]

yea

[opaque sphinx]

can we get a b2b?

[tranquil sedge]

which is fine, t17s admittedly are harder than t16s
but (a) the actual harvest in them isn't really much harder, and (b) you roll more packsize/quant on the maps so it tends to be worth, and (c) the settle option is 8mod t16s in that case

[worldly bridge]

like idk this feels like a lot of juice 😭

actually low

[tranquil sedge]

there's two ways to get 8mod t16s

either you chisel alch vaal your maps yourself
or you just buy 8mod t16 directly

most ppl do the latter

[worldly bridge]

ive been getting closer to 20k total juice

[tranquil sedge]

with subpar idols in subpar maps
you're still in rookie numbers for phrecia 😄

(which is a good thing it just shows how much more you can earn)

[opaque sphinx]

we can

[scarlet jacinth]

Phrecia juicing gets absolutely hilarious

[tranquil sedge]

also since the event ends in like 10 days
make sure you at least try some 8mod t16s and some self-rolled t17s (not 8mod) before it ends

if u can't kill the boss it doesn't matter

the important point is running the juiced harvest

use phrecia to experiment and get used to spending more on ur maps

coz all this is still true in the base game too

[worldly bridge]

[tranquil sedge]

its your div/hr at the end of the day

i can't stop you earning less if you insist on it

[cobalt blade]

would honestly argue more important in the base game with how low base drops are

[whole bluff]

If you have 10% quant per map mod, 7% rarity per map mod, 5% pack size per map mod, 20% quality:

• 6 mod -> 180% quant, 130% pack size = 1.6×1.3=234% loot, 42% more gold on top (332.28%) (from rarity), some number more uniques and stuff from rarity
• 8 mod -> 200% quant, 140% pack size = 280% loot, 56% more gold (436.8%), more more uniques etc
  I hope I didn't fudge the numbers

[zinc stump]

Revive works on harvest rest poopoo

[whole bluff]

Map mod effect just multiplies it similarly

Like how 8 mod is 33% more map mod effect

[cobalt blade]

i think for crop rota in specifically phrecia its bad since cant res bosses iirc?

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/luckystar-yawn-sleepy-hairmessedtfup-gif-13806434

hallo

[cobalt blade]

and you end up with a shit ton of bosses

Hiiii

[frigid wedge]

hiiiii

[cobalt blade]

Might be mistaken though havent touched harvest in a long while

[zinc stump]

You also have times where its 12 t3

And 2 t4

[cobalt blade]

trutru

[zinc stump]

Then its big moni

[frigid wedge]

is srev still talking about harvest

propaganda

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea

[worldly bridge]

you can still res the rares

[worldly bridge]

so how do i even like

SEARCH for maps

[scarlet jacinth]

Speaking about propaganda.. hear me out "ultimatum"

[worldly bridge]

because i cant run stuff like anti leech

[zinc stump]

Banned

[opaque sphinx]

fuck ulti jun is love

[frigid wedge]

wheres the propaganda, u can get 100% dupe chance and like 7 extra rounds

[tranquil sedge]

assuming you want to buy off trade site and not tft?

filters AND:
modifiers = 8

filter NOT:
<insert mod you cannot run>
<insert mod you cannot run>
<insert mod you cannot run>

[zinc stump]

Hi kira

[cobalt blade]

insert whatever mods you cant run

[tranquil sedge]

also add modifiers = 8

[cobalt blade]

yeye

[whole bluff]

Harvest does lead to a better world wdym

[opaque sphinx]

[frigid wedge]

i love my permanent browser tab with mods that make me sad that i can actually still run

[zinc stump]

How is the kira

[frigid wedge]

ok but new hear me out

25 levels in a day with abyss

[whole bluff]

No leech will make my character eat itself

[frigid wedge]

self leech

[worldly bridge]

bweh

[scarlet jacinth]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia 2.0/bGKbDw2OTL

This was my search for t16 dunes

[worldly bridge]

ig i see what you mean

[cobalt blade]

i like to get myself to the point i just run everything

[whole bluff]

I got no self dmg

[frigid wedge]

hey that looks like my currency

[worldly bridge]

only selling juice for div

[cobalt blade]

no limitations it goes in

[whole bluff]

I just pay for reap in ES

[worldly bridge]

not for chaos

figured its worse in small chuinks

[opaque sphinx]

gud

hbu?

[scarlet jacinth]

80% 6 rounds it is (too poor)

[worldly bridge]

EIGHTY CHAOS

[frigid wedge]

twinsies

[scarlet jacinth]

Drop quant from 110 to 100

[worldly bridge]

10% CANNOT be worth another 50c wtf

[scarlet jacinth]

Haha

[worldly bridge]

yall are deranged

[tranquil sedge]

show your search link

[frigid wedge]

im just sleepy

[scarlet jacinth]

It was the one i posted srev

[whole bluff]

You pay 60c for a scarab

[worldly bridge]

im using ^

[scarlet jacinth]

Just as an examaplw tho

[tranquil sedge]

lemme peek

[whole bluff]

The scarab is like icing on the cake which is the map

[scarlet jacinth]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia 2.0/bGKbDw2OTL

[whole bluff]

Coat of paint on a car

[worldly bridge]

80c for a map is too much but bugs? im fine with expensive bugs

[tranquil sedge]

ofc its too much

[scarlet jacinth]

Drop to like 100 quant instead then. It makes it like 5c

[tranquil sedge]

wait a sec lol that link needs fixing

[scarlet jacinth]

Haha

[frigid wedge]

floris only the hyrris has sold aince last night ;-;

[cobalt blade]

legit ive spent a div or 2 on well rolled maps before

[tranquil sedge]

yea that link isnt't right at all

[scarlet jacinth]

Not the ring?

[frigid wedge]

ive spent 30d to buy and roll a tab of maps

[cobalt blade]

it was in a duo with a friend but like it was worth it for the increase in loot

[scarlet jacinth]

Its just barebones t16 8mod dunes with no leech blocked and quant minimum..

[tranquil sedge]

you put NOT modifiers = 8

[worldly bridge]

yeah i see what you mean

[tranquil sedge]

that makes the link pointless xd

[worldly bridge]

i didnt run all of the maps i had ready but

yeah

[scarlet jacinth]

Omg!!

[worldly bridge]

i only just started making profit i think

on juice

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia 2.0/8rkryGMnUV

here specify the layout you want, but maps start at 2c lol you dont even have to specify quant or anything

[frigid wedge]

in my defence with async it they got enough fortresses to fill my maps tab I'm buying all of them

[worldly bridge]

not counting the other items ive sold like 17s or idols

[cobalt blade]

Yeah i get it

[scarlet jacinth]

Fixed

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia 2.0/d8gB6jDvUJ

(Stupid me)

[cobalt blade]

ive spent way too much on fortresses too during keepers

[frigid wedge]

yep

[cobalt blade]

had a full regular tab of them more than once scarab farming

[scarlet jacinth]

Ty srev.. hadn't noticed

[tranquil sedge]

you also don't need to specify quant or item level, if u dont wanna

[worldly bridge]

ok i have to go to bed soon but ill buy a single map and try it before

[tranquil sedge]

8mods takes care of it on its own tbh

[cobalt blade]

it somewhat matters for 16.5

not for reg 16;s

[worldly bridge]

funny thing i cant actually run phys reflect

[tranquil sedge]

16.5 ye
reg 16 no

[worldly bridge]

xdd

[tranquil sedge]

just add whatever you can't run its fine

[worldly bridge]

i have to get a new graft

[tranquil sedge]

8mods are not expensive

[scarlet jacinth]

It was for boxes (wasn't after 16.5s)

[whole bluff]

Can you fit all map mods in a count btw?

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[cobalt blade]

yes

[whole bluff]

Neat

[tranquil sedge]

i imagine you can come close to it if not do it outright
but why

[whole bluff]

So count: 8, Good mods

[frigid wedge]

i have to before the league ends get level 87 and at least 2d more and all my idol slots

[whole bluff]

20q if spicy

[tranquil sedge]

thats like reaching around ur head the long way to touch ur ear

[cobalt blade]

modifiers 8 filter out bad is just as good though and faster to setup

[tranquil sedge]

u just specify the mods u dont want is the sane way to do it

[cobalt blade]

alternatively just run everything

[frigid wedge]

ok technically i can just continue the build after phrecia ends

[whole bluff]

Ah, I do that

[tranquil sedge]

okay i can understand setting the quant but why the max item level

[whole bluff]

All the ways

[frigid wedge]

u can set map tier

why ilvl it

xD

[tranquil sedge]

they did

[modest depot]

forgor to link but i made this

[cobalt blade]

technically filters out valdo maps if you set ilvl to 90 but only matters searching for 17's

[modest depot]

just crafting useless upgrades at this point

[frigid wedge]

oh ok

[frigid wedge]

u should craft them for me instead obv

[cobalt blade]

since those be ilvl 100

[whole bluff]

What if you wanna run an 8 mod but like some mods to be free

[tranquil sedge]

wdym

[whole bluff]

To make it easier

Check which mods give max effect and are free for build, check count 1

[cobalt blade]

that just isnt worth it but you can do a count search for minimum 4 easy mods i guess

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/ycdMAkyuNosA gng I finally decided to make the hardest decision to get to 100m dps

[frigid wedge]

cant u just set map completion reward to none

[tranquil sedge]

that sounds like too much effort but sure if you want to get easier maps that's one way to approach it

[cobalt blade]

thats not a ctually an option

[whole bluff]

I would test around with it anyway

[frigid wedge]

really?

[ocean field]

@whole bluff Are you happy now.

[frigid wedge]

maybe it was foil none

[frigid wedge]

set the foil to none then

[opaque sphinx]

fk u jungleryan

[worldly bridge]

ok this DOES NOT MEAN I BELIEVE YOU

[frigid wedge]

lmao

were u doing harbest

[whole bluff]

Meh, I didn't mean that you had to abandon trickster

[worldly bridge]

i just grabbed a random map, this is infested valley

[cobalt blade]

ah ye that works

[ocean field]

well I had to if I wanted to get to 100m

[cobalt blade]

just do inc attack damage 3% less per point does not matter when 99% of your inc damage is oshabi

[frigid wedge]

yayy!

[cobalt blade]

or inc lightning dam if your 90% lightning damage inc ele dam etc

[ocean field]

at least trickster exists in essence as an annointed escape artist

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[cobalt blade]

imo overleech jewels>escape artist

over doing the balance ev/es ghost dance shit

[whole bluff]

It is tricksters soul

[ocean field]

yes everything else has been taken from it from overlords ggg

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-brando-massacred-gif-8593439218992598591

[frigid wedge]

if new league is a delve league i might have to play forbidden rite finally

[whole bluff]

Escape artist has always been from the beginning of trickster up until today

[frigid wedge]

but don't worry im incapable of playing a normal build so it wont be fross

ill just hit myself instead

[whole bluff]

Eyy, I'm also incapable

[ocean field]

gng I lowkey cannot play any build that does not rely on ES

limits yourself to fross and attack skills based on ephermal edge

[frigid wedge]

im just gonna get like 7k life and hope i permaleech

[whole bluff]

My first character had CI, unwavering stance, and act 1 life flask of thawing, after farming a full respecc in merciless archives

[ocean field]

I hate life

[cobalt blade]

hotm says hi

such a fun claw

[frigid wedge]

i like how much simpler it is to recover

[ocean field]

I love CI

[whole bluff]

Normally, yes

[frigid wedge]

i havent clicked it in over a year

:P

not a blue life enjoyer

[worldly bridge]

ok i think i just really low rolled on this map

it didnt feel ANY different

[ocean field]

??

herald of thunder

[cobalt blade]

hand of thought and motion

accuracy int stacking

[whole bluff]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia2.0/character/Vinchova-6627/FuckBehemoth?i=0&search=name%3Dfuckbehemoth

[ocean field]

this is lowkey worse than edge

[frigid wedge]

its not

[ocean field]

or eblade

[opaque sphinx]

surely

[cobalt blade]

its not damage wise its worse defence wise though

no es on block shield

[ocean field]

for trickster or rather a shadow base

[frigid wedge]

its got the highest melee dps potential in the game rn

[cobalt blade]

for trickster yes but like

[finite quail]

hit it

[frigid wedge]

foulborn dreamfeather in other hand

[cobalt blade]

jugg or in phrecia aristocat better int stackers

[frigid wedge]

u can abuse it on tricky

[ocean field]

I don't play anything other than a shadow base

[opaque sphinx]

oshabi > aristo

[finite quail]

Good

[cobalt blade]

loud incorrect buzzer D:

[cobalt blade]

understandable

[frigid wedge]

u can still use it tho

u dont need jugg node

[ocean field]

yeah but proper int stacking is like multi mirror type sht

[frigid wedge]

ur stacking es

ur meant to be proper int stacking

[cobalt blade]

^^

not too hard to self farm the shit anyway

its just the jewels you need to buy mostly

[opaque sphinx]

int stack WI is cheap to start

and good

[fickle glen]

Does this flask recover the character’s entire life or just the amount on the flask?

[frigid wedge]

both

[brazen vector]

Full life

[fickle glen]

Nice

[ocean field]

gng the 100m dps build is not int stack and is less than 250 div including mageblood

[cobalt blade]

life on flsk during the flask duration of 2.8 seconds your full life once it ends

[frigid wedge]

during effect u recover amount on flask, once effect ends u recover full

[fickle glen]

It’s the best then

[frigid wedge]

not really

a big divine life flask is better for pf, and a norm instant flask is better for panic button

[cobalt blade]

its also missing an entire layer of defence from less dmg per int on chest+almost half of its possible ES?

[brazen vector]

You can have 5k life flasks with better suffixes

[cobalt blade]

int stacking is so much nicer

[frigid wedge]

hiii alesia

[ocean field]

and so much more expensive like 10x

[cobalt blade]

even on the budget pre MB setups if you know the basic gearing

[brazen vector]

Hello sans

[fickle glen]

Instant won’t matter when you have high life pool

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/laid-back-camp-nadeshiko-kagamihara-wave-anime-gif-14395014036606108394

[cobalt blade]

nah

[brazen vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173871927765508096/1464810050592702526/catRAA.avif

[opaque sphinx]

how do u split text in regex

[frigid wedge]

if ur life pool is that high u shouldnt use a life flask anyway

[cobalt blade]

maybe if you buy and dont craft anything

[cobalt blade]

|

[opaque sphinx]

damn does it not work for harvest

[cobalt blade]

it does

defence|likely

[opaque sphinx]

oh i put a space

ty

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[ocean field]

poor people like me can only afford builds like this

cannot afford int stack

[worldly bridge]

So that 8mod didnt really, feel any different in terms of loot. Maybe i just low rolled to hell but it was the exact same as a regular 16, excluding the divine

[opaque sphinx]

u can play int stack WI for cheap

and its on trickster

[finite quail]

Int stack this

Int stack that

[worldly bridge]

Maybe im missing something

[finite quail]

how about you go stack some BITCHES

[frigid wedge]

what if i am the bitch

[cobalt blade]

same^

[frigid wedge]

do i still stack bitches

[worldly bridge]

Cudl pudl

[brazen vector]

You do

[frigid wedge]

damn

thats difficult

[ocean field]

WI?

[tranquil sedge]

it'll happen with how rng harvest is
but over time it'll make a diff coz ur running maps with almost 40 pack size and 110 quant vs whatever it was that u were casually alching

[ocean field]

what do you mean WI

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/creature-entity-cute-silly-cat-petting-silly-creature-petting-sily-creature-gif-12583798057344398771

[frigid wedge]

what

[cobalt blade]

i think they mean whispering ice but WI sucks

[frigid wedge]

WIWIWIWI

[frigid wedge]

WI is ok at mid end

[ocean field]

tf is WI

[cobalt blade]

just any basic int stack eblade setup will beat it though

[frigid wedge]

whispering ice

[worldly bridge]

Interesting

[cobalt blade]

with the same gear

[opaque sphinx]

whispering ice is lit

[frigid wedge]

icestorm staff

[opaque sphinx]

wym

[finite quail]

[ocean field]

ah

[opaque sphinx]

its good

tanky beyond hell

decent aoe

good single

[ocean field]

but this is lowkey still not that impressive

[cobalt blade]

can it tank uber meteors

[tranquil sedge]

and we'll see how the changes in 3.28 are, obviously i haven't played 3.27, but normally t17 maps will be an even more noticable step up over 8mod t16s, than 8 mod t16s are over regular t16s

[ocean field]

only looking at about 200% even at 2K es

[frigid wedge]

depending on what content 3.28 is im either gonna play tainted pact or try mfa

i think

[cobalt blade]

bro if you have 2k es on an ES build im impressed

[tranquil sedge]

especially if 3.28 will undo some of the changes to t17 mod values that roll on t17/16.5

[cobalt blade]

thats like just a hat and chest

[ocean field]

I am gonna play fross trickster or assasin in 3.28

will prolly play blight of contagion then switch

[frigid wedge]

who woulda guessed

[opaque sphinx]

WI is love

WI is life

[frigid wedge]

ah yes

[worldly bridge]

Well im gonna stay skeptical until i pull 30k juice out of a single map

[frigid wedge]

26% int

on weapon

[worldly bridge]

(Not completely serious)

[frigid wedge]

wtaf

[cobalt blade]

judging you for not tempering

[worldly bridge]

Im surr you know your stuff

[frigid wedge]

sorry not 26

43% int

in one item

[opaque sphinx]

yeh i need to div it

[worldly bridge]

I just figured corrupted maps were only for progression sincenyou cant roll them

[frigid wedge]

what the fuck is that man

[opaque sphinx]

but its in standard and i never bothered actually making a std build

[worldly bridge]

700 hours and i never run them

[frigid wedge]

can i have it

[opaque sphinx]

hell naw

my prized possession sorry

[worldly bridge]

Free divines

[frigid wedge]

what if i made a build on it

[tranquil sedge]

its poe's way of teaching you start using them 😄

[opaque sphinx]

one day i will go back and make build for it

[tranquil sedge]

not immediately clear at first as with most shit in this game

[cobalt blade]

click the tempering gogogo

[opaque sphinx]

ive played WI a bunch of times, just need to mix all the gear together to make god build

[frigid wedge]

trueee

kira you meed to get the 46% attrib wiwiwi stick

[opaque sphinx]

there is another copy of it somewhere

[frigid wedge]

maybe i should try to get a mirror and mirror it from u

xD

[opaque sphinx]

my guildmate and i made it together but she sold her split copy

[cobalt blade]

cant mirror uniques

[frigid wedge]

i think u can

[cobalt blade]

you cannot

[opaque sphinx]

nah u cant

[cobalt blade]

lore wise uniques are already mirrored

[opaque sphinx]

in lore all uniques are mirrored copies alrdy

damn ur fast wtf

[frigid wedge]

oh

[cobalt blade]

:33

[frigid wedge]

she is peak

she will beat u to same info

xD

[scarlet jacinth]

Valdo maps were showing and those are ilvl 100

[opaque sphinx]

im being outnerded send help

[frigid wedge]

Foil: none

[split maple]

is there any reasonable way there to cap reses that isnt slaping milion divines on mageblood (would need 24/25% on both res rolls with qual): https://pobb.in/GP5gyudMggJu

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea.. that would of worked aswell

[cobalt blade]

21/20 qual PoL change cold/lightning craft to cold/fire on boots?

[grizzled lily]

yea but i wont tell u

[frigid wedge]

isnt this already res capped

[opaque sphinx]

aiight how did i break it

[cobalt blade]

oh wait its mana choir i see

[split maple]

missing 4% fire and cold

[opaque sphinx]

it was working before

[tranquil sedge]

alira bandit?

[cobalt blade]

hmm

do you have tattoos?

[frigid wedge]

alira is more lightning res too

[tranquil sedge]

can you afford to drop any passives?

[split maple]

and divining mageblood would just hit that but its 1 in 75 divs

[opaque sphinx]

nvm fixed

[frigid wedge]

ok the obvious answer is to res qual ur helical

or like

[whole bluff]

Exalt clusters?

You got 3 or 4

[tranquil sedge]

oh i have the fix

[frigid wedge]

mist the helicals

[tranquil sedge]

you drop the movespeed suffix on ur quicksilver flask and replace that with shock avoid

[whole bluff]

That is (3-4)× small amount of all res or specific res

[tranquil sedge]

then u replace ur absyssal #1 jewel

get dual resist suffix on that

[split maple]

dont want that since long term (league surely isnt ending right :D) i could go for cb immunity on clusters

[whole bluff]

Ah

Synthed clusters btw?

[split maple]

gonna go for dced clusters if i find time

[tranquil sedge]

yea either replace the abyssal jewel after moving shock avoid to flask or take alira bandit if you can somehow save a passive i think

[cobalt blade]

do you have a helical or are you making 2 diff helical in ssf

could do one with cold/light one with fire/light craft

[split maple]

i have a crafted helical and mirror

[cobalt blade]

ah

[split maple]

gonna gamble mist on second split

[frigid wedge]

res quality the helical

[split maple]

once i manage to roll int on that fucker i keep running out of scorn essences

[split maple]

yea pobing that rn

[whole bluff]

Anyway, imo, with splits and synths and shit, I would make a cluster jewel factory rather than accept 3 mod

[tranquil sedge]

7 shards surely

[cobalt blade]

20 shards god hit go

[frigid wedge]

iirc its meant to be anyways

[cobalt blade]

surely possible

[frigid wedge]

lotta extra mana

[split maple]

50% incr helical and 20% cata is additive right?

[cobalt blade]

ye

[frigid wedge]

pob has an add catalyst button esm

[hollow pulsar]

how can i report a bug

[split maple]

it cannot compute helical itself

need to custom edit for that

[frigid wedge]

oh right

just import to CoE

[cobalt blade]

CoE recognizes helicals yeah

[whole bluff]

Is there any legit reason to add a black morrigan to the craicic chimeral for a 2-notable blue devastator wand cluster?

[frigid wedge]

what

[whole bluff]

Aside from checking foulborn regal + normal regal at once

[frigid wedge]

not really

[split maple]

oh okay res qual wins

[split maple]

for like 200 mana anyways 😄

[frigid wedge]

oke bye

[whole bluff]

[cobalt blade]

if your trying to get a weirdly specific corruption maybe

but realistically no

[whole bluff]

Nah, wouldn't go for that on cluster I think

So being able to blessed orb a wand cluster isn't a big deal

Or any cluster really

Just foulborn regal and pray

[split maple]

now i still kinda want to grab 5% fire and cold res somewhere just to not need to get it on abyssal 😛

would make it doable to get mana on them

reses are synths on clusters right

[elder marlin]

Whats a good sanctum/bosser with 10d budget?

[whole bluff]

Not sure what synth counts clusters as. But I would guess cobalt/viridian/crimson/prismatic?

Base jewel I suppose

If prismatic is even a base jewel

You want a port where wheat is preferred for qual currency

[cobalt blade]

yes

[whole bluff]

So it doesn't share the pool with good currency

[cobalt blade]

it goes up to 5 but its ass to roll specific res lol

[whole bluff]

Cuz most wheat affinities are bad for you

So quality ones are best so they are sorta skipped

[lucid gale]

Don't send it to Lot Glutein. 😉

[whole bluff]

I assume you can't harvest swap the implicit?

[opaque sphinx]

what a ride

[split maple]

ig thats reasonableish end of league goal: https://pobb.in/l71bWE1OxELS

[whole bluff]

That's a port quota I think? You need to look up what everyone gives for wheat

[opaque sphinx]

annuled fire res

slammed martial prowess

annuled it

[split maple]

if i dont hit synth on cluster i just drop mana on abyssal its ok ig

[opaque sphinx]

almost

[cobalt blade]

you cannot

[whole bluff]

Looks nice, but Naca probably knows weights of synth better

[whole bluff]

Kinda neat. Just wants next tier of all stats to be really nice imo

Cuz breakpoint

[opaque sphinx]

mhmm

its still like 50d if i sell but im prob just gonna settle and use it for now

my other 12p is kinda shit, i have not done much crafting yet

[whole bluff]

Did you go back to keepers btw? Or is this on oshabi?

[opaque sphinx]

beast of a jewel

oshabi

[whole bluff]

Damn

[opaque sphinx]

farming jun is free money

this was pretty cheap to make tho tbh

[whole bluff]

I should do that

CI seems good for betrayal

[opaque sphinx]

6d+700c roughly

[whole bluff]

Nice

[opaque sphinx]

it is

honestly fighting cat as CI feels like cheating

[whole bluff]

Currently I got some asshattery scout report + alva stuff that barely does anything

[cobalt blade]

upgraded my 4th cluster from 8 str to 8 int only +5 ES pre tho sincei cba to alt until t2/t1 rn and im fucking 10 es off 30 k

[opaque sphinx]

sacred something?

[cobalt blade]

wait i can move a point from my 4 es cluster

301 chest 133 hat

perfection

[whole bluff]

Neat

That's over 30k I believe

Every point matters

[cobalt blade]

30023 now after swapping the cluster spots lol

[whole bluff]

Nice

[cobalt blade]

for 12points on the better one 9 on the worse(splits)

[whole bluff]

My entire build is a meme, but at least it doesn't struggle in t16s anymore

I have 8 spellslingers and no sockets in chest

[cobalt blade]

https://pobb.in/H_4QQqnWMNum prob done with phrecia now will maybe farm harbies when bored tho till its over

p happy with how char turned out

[opaque sphinx]

now do it on oshabi

[cobalt blade]

no :3

[opaque sphinx]

[split maple]

how many versions of accu stackers did you play now 😄

[cobalt blade]

only 2

jugg is alot better though

[opaque sphinx]

could be 3 with oshabi

[cobalt blade]

could be 3 with behemoth+undeniable jewels

[opaque sphinx]

oshabi more funner gooder tho

[cobalt blade]

click IR get maybe 300k armour with flasks 500k with perfect guardian turtle up

half pobbed it out at some point and only didnt bother with it because of no reasonable way to get 90 max res

[cobalt blade]

D:

[opaque sphinx]

look doesnt it look fun to have no skills

ur old behemoth but better

[whole bluff]

Lul

[cobalt blade]

im already halfway there

i like my crit and action speed immune

[opaque sphinx]

see now u can double benefit off it

[cobalt blade]

lol

[whole bluff]

I would spreadsheet if I was on vacation

To compare oshabi and aristo

[opaque sphinx]

i genuinely believe oshabi is better

i dont see how aristo wins

tree placement is a bit better so u can get block n shit so that helps

[whole bluff]

It does seem better, but hungry loop is questionable. Can you not put that on a helm instead?

[opaque sphinx]

nah helm is a ton of es and attri

i think on higher budget u just get helical/kalandra and put 6l back in chest

[cobalt blade]

do you have suppression cap and 1500% inc damage

if no aristo better

[opaque sphinx]

way more than 1500

[whole bluff]

Are you sure a 5L with 20/0 gems beats 21/20 or 5/20 gems in a 4L glove?

[opaque sphinx]

21/20 vaal reave refraction expensive

later on the loop is def not the play