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[viscid ruin]

or were you perma paralysed?

[brazen vector]

hillock bugged in a safehouse

[viscid ruin]

ooof

the loot...

[red socket]

Bonjour je sais pas si il y a des français mais je cherche un build poison pour ombre sur poe1 . Je galère un peu a trouver un bon build .

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/english-motherfucker-speak-do-you-speak-it-sam-l-jackson-gif-4693590

[red socket]

Wouaw ....Is that your idea of respect?

[viscid ruin]

ewwww, that language 🤢

[scarlet zealot]

Good catch (I am the author)

[red socket]

Racist bye

[viscid ruin]

U^U begone speaker of foul gibberish

https://tenor.com/view/naoya-zenin-choso-fight-aura-farm-not-in-the-manga-gif-15215466617984430840

[sonic jolt]

minions are sonofabitches now

like

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[brazen vector]

I thought its just a funny pop culture reference :(

[waxen fiber]

Hi I'm trying to follow a build, but I have no idea how to get this kind of items, how can I get amulet and belt with % dex?

[tired niche]

The implicit is synthesised (drops that way, buy one), dex explicit on belt doesn't roll normally but you can force it with an essence whoops, amulet

[tranquil sedge]

buy the base item with the dex implicit

this goes for both amulet and belt

how important is the mana regeneration mod there, you should decide

because its a suffix taking the place of what could be a t2 or t1 all attributes roll

and if ur stacking dex will thats a lot of flat dex, it adds up

[potent bramble]

What if I want % dex on an armor base chest plate, Srev?

[icy zinc]

lovely mod as always

[waxen fiber]

thank you

[tranquil sedge]

ask zao what kinda payment he takes for user requests

[icy zinc]

hits through endurance charges and 35k armour

[naive stirrup]

dman it time to pay 2 win

[tranquil sedge]

wait

what tabs do you already have and how much do you plan to spend and are you capable of waiting for a stash tab sale?

[viscid ruin]

dont listen to those vatos, just go to trade page and buy it for some chaos

[naive stirrup]

i mean probalby like only 100 coin only

[tranquil sedge]

the other 2 questions?

[naive stirrup]

i dont have any tabs yet?

[naive stirrup]

there is a tab sale?

[tranquil sedge]

okay
next stash tab sale is probably in ~2 weeks time according to poedb

a sale happens roughly every 3 weeks

[steel light]

happy waiting

[naive stirrup]

hmm how about this?

[tranquil sedge]

here is my recommendation for most players.
this is written assuming you buy tabs during a sale.

[potent bramble]

I would have assumed tab sale timed with the start of the next league

[steel light]

there are packs that gave u extra stuffs along with what u paid, first blood is one of them

these are the plain boring ones with no freebies

[naive stirrup]

okie i see

[tranquil sedge]

if you think you like poe enough to play it long term, $30 supporter pack is what i would 100% recommend getting

[icy zinc]

lol

[tranquil sedge]

those tabs are listed in priority of just how much shit they hold that you find commonly

[icy zinc]

no tink even smh neversink

[steel light]

it crashed hard in keeper, went from 170 to 17 within a week

[icy zinc]

scarab nuke

[potent bramble]

I geg why they wouldn't want to, but I think there'd be a lot more people who stick with the game if the currency tab was free

[tranquil sedge]

maybe if the game wasn't so hard it might be the case

but the base difficulty of the game alone is good enough to filter out casuals by campaign end

and u dont need to buy any tabs for campaign

[potent bramble]

Like it's /gotta/ be one of the best revenue options, so they'd be foolish to throw it away, but man is that the most critical tab ever

[spice bison]

63 orbs

[pulsar dune]

wow

[waxen fiber]

not for chaos anymore 😂
is there a way to target farm synthesised item?

[pulsar dune]

not really

they drop from the synthete invitation, but most of them are from the harvest craft

[tranquil sedge]

synth maps are basically in a terrible spot with repeated nerfs over the past several leagues

[pulsar dune]

heist and blight as well

[split maple]

for jewelry heist jewelry chests are ok source

but you gonna need a bunch of vivid chickens

[tranquil sedge]

if u want synth gear just buy or make it yourself nowadays

heist and blight might drop some as well

[civic charm]

When does th next Poe 1 league drop?

[split maple]

early march

[modern zinc]

vivid chickens?

[split maple]

vultures

they reroll the implicit

you wont just drop % dex ya know

[signal pawn]

for earthshatter, is the impale or %phys on watchers more important of the two?

[naive stirrup]

HMMM is it possible for me to reach lv 50 before i finish act 2

[modern zinc]

not really

[split maple]

there is exp penalty if you are too far away from area lvl

gets bigger the bigger lvl difference is

[limpid prairie]

whats this kirac memory thing?

[modern zinc]

thinking about doing inquisitor flicker

[finite quail]

no, its not

[finite quail]

wdym kirac memory

[potent bramble]

Kirac memory thing? 'Cause there's a couple different things that have the word memory in 'em

[finite quail]

are you talking about eagon?

[naive stirrup]

hmmm damn i was ready to spend 2 year of my life

[finite quail]

then spend that time going through the acts

instead of staying in one area

you'll get to 50 much faster that way

[naive stirrup]

but it funny imagine being like lv 50 in act 2

[finite quail]

i dont see how its funny

but okay

[limpid prairie]

I was seeing a betrayal guide sayin "memories are now on Kirac"
i now understand what they meant when they said

[potent bramble]

I'm pretty sure you could do it, but it'd be a miserable experience

[finite quail]

Ohhhh

[potent bramble]

You do? Becuase somehow I understand it less now lmao

[naive stirrup]

hmmm

[finite quail]

Right, so they're talking about how master memories were itemized and dropped from monsters

And later on, they were given to Kirac as missions

I see

They're not memories anymore though, they're special kirac missions I guess

[potent bramble]

Master memories are still itemized drops though? It was the Master Missions that got moved

[tranquil sedge]

memories don't exist anymore.

[potent bramble]

Unless I'm completely losing it

[stoic horizon]

i dont think master memories exist anymore

[tranquil sedge]

the memory events have a chance to spawn on kirac map missions

[potent bramble]

I swear in Keepers (maybe Mercenaries) I found things that were "X memory of Y" and it was like Nico, Alva, etc

[tranquil sedge]

you did not find them in keepers or in mercenaries 😛

in settlers you may have, or in first phrecia

[potent bramble]

... so I'm just crazy. Well, it was bound to happen some day!

[limpid prairie]

still sane exile?

clearly not

[limpid prairie]

i dont 10 divs do you take mage bloods?

[sonic jolt]

i was just announcin

[stuck phoenix]

...

Ok

[wind axle]

chat do we know when 3.28 drops or just rumours?

[stoic horizon]

[wind axle]

is it confirmed march?

[stoic horizon]

yes

[wind axle]

grazie

[stoic horizon]

confirmed early march

[wind axle]

cant wait

early = first 2 weeks?

[stoic horizon]

probably

[wind axle]

so that means 16th of march 😂

[proud gorge]

"early march" means anywhere from March 12th to April 8th

[icy zinc]

april.. very early

[wind axle]

oh damn

do they do the thing where you're on the beach waiting for the league to start? or is that just events?

[untold tide]

how does unique stacking in rogue work? everytime i get in a map i just get nothing but my ambush boost?

[proud gorge]

yeah, usually about an hour to half an hour before the league starts

[fallow fern]

would battle mage energy blade poison work well

[wind axle]

that's genuinely one of the coolest things tbh, dont know another game that does it

[wind axle]

is that an eclipse?

[proud gorge]

I mean, for attack-based poison application methods, EE is generally better

[fallow fern]

i was thinking of going ee battle mage scav

with like panance brand

[proud gorge]

EE has better scaling than Energy Blade, and also doesn't remove half of your ES, but only applies to attacks with the weapon

oh, you mean like, regular spells but poison

[fallow fern]

with the madness boots and reduced debuff stacking

[proud gorge]

you can't do EE Battlemage, since EE doesn't actually increase the weapon's listed damage, just gives extra damage to weapon attacks. As for Eblade battlemage, it could work, though obviously you'd need some way to get all damage poisons or somehow convert all your lightning damage to chaos

[fallow fern]

the boots make it so

all dmg can poison

[stuck phoenix]

Or lightning damage can poison

[proud gorge]

nice, sounds like it'd probably work then

[stuck phoenix]

That's just for race events

[stuck phoenix]

No?

[proud gorge]

do they not? I've definitely played on league launches before

[stuck phoenix]

It's queue for league starts

[proud gorge]

ah

[stuck phoenix]

You remember the queue

:p

[proud gorge]

yeah, that makes sense

nvm I'm dumb

[stuck phoenix]

lel

[proud gorge]

but yeah, personally I'm not a huge fan of Eblade Battlemage builds, despite liking ES-scaling builds, because it cuts your ES by so much

well, liking defense-scaling builds anyways

[stuck phoenix]

It's definitely something people occasionally play though

But maybe not low end

[proud gorge]

it's a good build, I'm sure, I just don't like how you end up quite squishy early

next time I play an eblade build I'll honestly probably run a non-eblade variant with some random high damage weapon early instead

so that I'm not losing like half my ES while hitting maps

[wind axle]

ah i see, so on league starts we just get to login early and sit in queue?

[brazen vector]

REALLY

WHYYYY

just did a valdo map for a drip triad grip

vaaled my old ones

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[brazen vector]

beefy boy

[wind axle]

aite could be worse

[grand flint]

lesgo 200 deaths less and 3 hours less from my last character

i got skill issue

[lilac parcel]

i simply cannot get it to be 5 its impossible

[scarlet jacinth]

Easiest way to level a ranger? anyone got any ideas?

[stuck phoenix]

Influenced ex slam angle

[modern zinc]

to be 5 what

[stuck phoenix]

Or is there no good one for you

[icy zinc]

nice.

[wanton kernel]

Why wont Earth Shatter work with this?

Anyone please helps im new ...

[leaden jewel]

do we still get the 8% base chance to spawn stuff in maps? does that mean we only need 92% from idols to 100% have something show up? like ritual?

[lilac parcel]

10% chance

[wanton kernel]

I missed that completely, my bro toy da man

@dry tree tanks Andy

[stuck phoenix]

Do you have any better options

[wanton kernel]

@dry tree shoukd I use that or just sell if someone wants it. Im low 31

[hoary scarab]

50/50, you hit or you dont

[wanton kernel]

Also what does this mean ...

[lilac parcel]

:))

[wanton kernel]

The Et

[pulsar dune]

It's from the support gems you have linked

[wanton kernel]

Tyty

Yall best

[worldly bridge]

insane roll

[wind axle]

lightning arrow?

[worldly bridge]

wdym "this"

[wind axle]

i got no hands in this game and had the easiest time ever idk

[normal hedge]

any twink setup

[wind axle]

oh twink lol

[worldly bridge]

play LA until act 3, get kinetic fusillade

blast

jung has a levelling video

lightning warp + fusillade

it pumps

he lvelled TWO charaters in one day in like, 6 hours

it was insane

[pulsar dune]

Outside of KF you can also do light radius, especially for the later levels

[worldly bridge]

you can apply it to any character with the right tweaks

[pulsar dune]

Impending doom helmet probably isn't worth it on ranger

[scarlet jacinth]

I'll probably go KF

[brazen vector]

pee colour, yay

[wanton kernel]

1st pyramid apex ...is this gonna get crazy?

[scarlet jacinth]

A fellow yellow!

[somber sundial]

https://youtu.be/F3SJYBxHhqA?si=PkOrcD53D1oNXtF4

I am very proud of how giga my build is

One day I will make the final upgrade of 11L setup

[wind axle]

ooba ooba eldah

[somber sundial]

Yas

I wonder if I can do Uber maven

[wind axle]

i bet you can comrade

[somber sundial]

!!!!

[normal hedge]

everyone knows the answer since you don need 260m dps to kill ubers

[somber sundial]

Uber Sirus was not polite to me

[somber sundial]

500m with my tincture on :3

[normal hedge]

with that dmg you insta phase it

[somber sundial]

Oh sick

Maybe I stop underestimating my build

What can’t I kill

[heady cliff]

light radius works pretty good for second part of campaign-white maps

[normal hedge]

60k delve bosses

[somber sundial]

Sadge

[heady cliff]

you can level your character to 84 with it and equip all your endgame gear

[somber sundial]

Deep delve builds are of another kind

Much much more rotund in their tankiness

[keen veldt]

if I’m a noob to delve how long before I realistically find aul?

[heady cliff]

being noob or not does not really matter for delve speed if you are just going from node to node

[uneven gust]

What are the depth breakpoints

[heady cliff]

600-ish max aul chance iirc

or 500

250-300 for decent chance while still being easy

[plush gulch]

@proud gorge yo do you think ice nova would be stronger than shockwave ?

[keen veldt]

ok I’m not on a delve character by any means, but I need the ascend and no one is selling it on Xbox

is that feasible I’ve never delved ever

[wind axle]

"rotund" 🔵

[somber sundial]

Yes

Rotund

Spherical even

[heady cliff]

in vacuum?

[somber sundial]

Vaal Cyclone

Is a vacuum

It sucks enemies in

yes I said suck

[worldly bridge]

nice to konw im not the only one listening to music during my ubers

i prefer like 2000's pop hits

"white girl music"

takes the pressure off LOL

[somber sundial]

Try um

[modern zinc]

based

[somber sundial]

level 42 - lessons in love (moreno j remix)

[worldly bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVARns-skYE

:3

[surreal pasture]

For a Ele Hit Surfcaster, how important is "non-vaal strike skills target # additional enemies" ? I have that w/ attack mastery but trying to figure out if there's a benefit to increasing that amount (with eldritch implicit on gloves)

[somber sundial]

God yeah I feel what you mean lol

Feels like you’re gonna trash this boss

[proud gorge]

what, for shockwave totems? Shockwave Totems at level 21 do an average 657 physical damage, with 110 DE, but since it's phys it benefits heavily from Hatred giving 40% of phys as extra cold. Ice Nova, by comparison, is 827 flat cold and 1.38 DE when linked with Spell Totem Support, which also gives 40% Less Cast Speed and consumes a support gem link.

when you consider the higher base cast time, 40% less cast speed, loss of a support gem link, and inability to benefit from Hatred, Shockwave totems pretty clearly come out ahead

[dapper violet]

When's 3.28 coming? Phrecia sucked ass.

[cinder totem]

Is there a phrecia 2 bulk buy channel?

[somber sundial]

Soon

[plush gulch]

@proud gorgeI see thanks

didn't realise it was this bad

[proud gorge]

Spell Totem Support is very powerful, but regular-ass totems are also really good

I mean, Ice Nova is pretty strong and high DE by itself

it's just that Spell Totem Support puts a lot of penalties on spells

[dapper violet]

Thanks but is that like 2 weeks? 4 weeks?

[proud gorge]

which makes sense, even just by default you get twice as many of them

[somber sundial]

Something like that

Not long

[proud gorge]

the main issue with regular-ass totems is just that the spells on regular-ass totems tend to be really bad actually

[plush gulch]

thats why when I saw the number I thought there was potential

also it has incredible mtx

[proud gorge]

Shockwave Totems would be unplayable if it weren't for Astral Projector or Polytheist

since they only hit in an AoE around themselves

[pulsar dune]

You could probably use mines or traps, both the supports are better than spell totem

[proud gorge]

Holy Flame Totem is alright, but just subpar compared to even regular spell totems

[pulsar dune]

Yea HFT is just sad

[plush gulch]

scorching ray is just the best

😎

[proud gorge]

and then outside of that, uh... Searing Bond Totem I guess?

[plush gulch]

shaper mtx

[proud gorge]

the bow totems are alright actually

[plush gulch]

i saw artilklery balista had a nice mtx

maybe I can try one day

[proud gorge]

man there really aren't a lot of traditional spell totems though

compared to traps and mines, which have a bunch of native trap/mine spell skills

[plush gulch]

traps are awesome

[crisp plinth]

artilelry ballista is nice

[pulsar dune]

Yea, very few native totem skills

[plush gulch]

I miss my lignting trap build

was very fun

[pulsar dune]

I did enjoy artiballing

[plush gulch]

blade trap looks good

ngl

I can try one day

[pulsar dune]

You can probably go poison with foulborn rebuke

[plush gulch]

how cool something look is 90% of the reason I play something

[wind axle]

chad gamer spotted

[pulsar dune]

I wonder if unearth totems would be any good

[plush gulch]

whats special about unearth

[pulsar dune]

Don't have to be melee like selfcast unearth, rain of splinters

[plush gulch]

does it do good hit dmg ?

[pulsar dune]

It full shotguns if you use fledgling

Within the two meters fledgling counts

And has a .3s cast time

[plush gulch]

this should be tried

[wind axle]

chat what gets reset if i move the game to another drive?

[plush gulch]

im suspicious now

[short radish]

Hi I'm new what should I do

[plush gulch]

what do you have on your main drive beside poe ??

it's the time we ask question

[split maple]

play the game and have fun

[plush gulch]

release the fajita file

[pulsar dune]

140% DE times the 8-ish proj times .3 cast speed, that's better than incinerate

[wind axle]

my other ssd is faster 😂 both my drives pretty empty

[short radish]

Should I follow a build guide

[plush gulch]

THE FILE RELEASE THEM

[wind axle]

what u tryna do? game is pretty fun if u play it blind tbh

my ex played it from watching me and she barely asked me anything or watched anything

[pulsar dune]

Only costs 1 link and an OP jewel

[wind axle]

just feel it out if ur lost watch something

[plush gulch]

maybe not the first run

[ebon tendon]

do u guys know if triggered skills proc this

[wind axle]

i do have an insane amout of video files containing ||banger skate clips||

[split maple]

second run definitely use guide, first run its a matter of taste

[pulsar dune]

No

[split maple]

if you dont mind getting stuck and trying to figure stuff out and have not to high expectations, going blind is fun

[wind axle]

nah i had a blast playing this shit blind

i thought supports had to be on the link right next to the skill to be on

and i thought u had to link attack gems on your weapon or they wouldnt work 😂

[plush gulch]

@short radish if you don't mind having to start from zero because you bricked your character you c an go blind if you prefer

and definitely play in keeper league

[mossy remnant]

Any good starter ssf build for phercia event? Something quick at clearing

[plush gulch]

avoid phrecia

[wind axle]

i think if he plays a srtaight forward build its hard to brick it no? like slams or bows

[pulsar dune]

Probably KF oshabi

Or one of the bow oshabis

[plush gulch]

did you every tried to help a new player

everything can happen

[mossy remnant]

Ill look at it ty

[plush gulch]

like stacking frenzy charge but not generating any

[wind axle]

yeah my ex. was pretty fine she had fun

she also didnt like poe2 she thinks its wack

[plush gulch]

i'll call the police

gonna deport u'all

[short radish]

Lol

[wind axle]

she loves the poe1 sockets

[split maple]

sounds like a keeper

[wind axle]

she said its one of the most fun things even playing blind

[split maple]

why the ex

[wind axle]

dont get me started 😭

keep her? hardly know her

[split maple]

give me a sec gonna get us a bottle 😄

[plush gulch]

she played trick

[short radish]

Probably your ex because you made her go in poe1 blind

[plush gulch]

ster

[wind axle]

im already sparking up

[wind axle]

she literally played templar totems i think lol

[plush gulch]

based

[wind axle]

i know

long neck gaming

[plush gulch]

so what do you want to do in poe

[wind axle]

false, we had more fun playing poe than playing shit like it takes 2 sometimes 😂

this game is rly fun from a new player perspective imo

ppl often overblow the skill tree

[short radish]

Have fun and nerd out

[short radish]

I was just messing with you

[plush gulch]

do you want to go blind ?N

[wind axle]

look at the skills that exist and find one that looks cool

[snow swift]

tf Einhar one shot me..hm maybe iam juicy one

[plush gulch]

einhar is your friend

[snow swift]

not in phrecia

[wind axle]

oh yeah play keepers not phrecia lol

[short radish]

I just don't want to get lost because it's a big game

[plush gulch]

I can't get into the idols

[proud gorge]

PoE is very fun if you have a friend helping you out, to smooth out some of the pain points

[plush gulch]

we are your friends

so it's fine

[proud gorge]

PoE2 is a better solo new player experience (early on) but is pretty restrictive in terms of player expression

[plush gulch]

especially fajita he got dumped so he has time now

[heady cliff]

?????

[proud gorge]

what do you mean "?????"

[wind axle]

i kinda agree idk

[plush gulch]

you can disagree with someone using words

btw

[split maple]

poe2 is simpler game, i think its better for newbs

[wind axle]

skills are locked to weapons and shit idk feels linear

[heady cliff]

poe2 is permanent mud flat rhoas in every area

[split maple]

tho poe1 is vastly more fun once you git gud

[karmic gust]

it is definitely way better for new players than poe1

its not even close

[short radish]

Lol I'll chose the Templar and call him tempy

[plush gulch]

templar is good

[karmic gust]

and i actively dislike the poe2 campaign its so bad

but its also very good for new players

[hard cliff]

Templar is BEAST MODE

[plush gulch]

you can play some spells or melee build

I guess it's more often spells

[proud gorge]

PoE2 streamlines a lot of the earlygame pain points of PoE1 yeah, but in a way that restricts player expression. A lot of PoE1's new player pain points are kind of necessary to have the kind of freedom of build expression that we do.

[hard cliff]

Templar has access to the best spells in the game

[wind axle]

vibe out with the skills as you progress and see what interests you

you can get through the campaign with pretty much anything i think

[polar hamlet]

better for new players yes, but the moment they learn it, they are gonna realise that poe2 has a giant void in it currently, although thats subject to change as its literally early access

[wind axle]

just you know, dont socket the "deals more fire dmg" support on the physical damage skill

[short radish]

Lol tempy was taken so tempystempy it is

[errant flower]

Tempy might become inky or hirey or guardy

[spare ore]

templar was my first ever char : )

[plush gulch]

he is gonna do his first playthrough

[wind axle]

hot take: i think the jank and age of poe1 gives it way more charm than the polish of poe2

[plush gulch]

me it was marauder

retaliation

fun time

[wind axle]

inky 😂😂

[proud gorge]

Honestly I feel like a good way to improve PoE1's new player experience would probably be a more restrictive tutorial, literal guidelines and training wheels until you feel like you don't need them anymore. Previously this might have been problematic with having players lock in possibly suboptimal passive tree choices, but these days respeccing in campaign is super cheap

[karmic gust]

yea that part i def do not like about poe2, they went from unique mechanics in poe1 to more generic and straightforward ones, obvious skill combos, very streamlined gem progression

[errant flower]

I think hai-ry is better for hierophant

[wind axle]

i went which summons first time and regret every second. what a boring fucking way to start this game

[plush gulch]

how true

[proud gorge]

I mean, my first build was Zoo Necro, and that was fun

[errant flower]

I think I only played shadow until ps mines was nerfed

[plush gulch]

no need to deport you

[polar hamlet]

i started poe1 in settlers, played poe2 on release for like 300 hrs and im still a bigger fan of poe1 by far, yeah its much harder to learn, but feels MUCH more rewarding to do so

[plush gulch]

i'll cancel

[proud gorge]

Zoo is a very PoE build, just an absurd number of guys crowding your screen at once

also handles all content well

[wind axle]

genuinely, the friction weeds out players that wouldnt like the game anyways. players who figure out they have to read descriptions and alt f4 aint gonna stay after the tutorial anyways

[plush gulch]

i played it I liked it, it felt more active resummoning my skeletons

[wind axle]

SETTLERS GAMERRRR

me too

[plush gulch]

but not srs level of active

[wind axle]

i played literally 15 mins of poe2 and uninstalled

[errant flower]

yea there are so many endgame things to choose from, you can be doing something that you actually find fun

[wind axle]

went straight back to poe1 and understood why its still the top arpg

[plush gulch]

😔 people can't handle dodging

[proud gorge]

but yeah, my first build that I really played to endgame was Double Nebuloch Jugg with old Molten Strike

that was a fun build

very classic

[plush gulch]

wait i can't destroy poe with my screen turn off

bad game

[wind axle]

dodge is the worst mechanic they added?? does anyone disagree with me?

[errant flower]

I played poe3 for literally 1 minute and uninstalled ||I had to return the time machine so I couldnt play more||

[heady cliff]

i survived 1 full act and 7 hours on release

[proud gorge]

throwing balls everywhere

[wind axle]

janky ass dark souls 1 dodge button on a arpg?!

[heady cliff]

then left negative review and uninstalled that ruthless 2.0

[polar hamlet]

i mean sure poe2 is early access, so theres alot of room to expand, but it just feels jank altogether, like blink feels disgusting to use in poe2 without temporalis and even then its kinda jank

[plush gulch]

👀 it's nice

[short radish]

Lol I'm not used to moving with the mouse

[wind axle]

it feels like terraria on master mode. just hard for tedious reasons

[karmic gust]

well thats not necessarily true right because the endgame build meta was basically poe1 when poe2 launched and ppl who were never interested in poe1 were praising it by a lot, i think even though poe1 is already very popular it would be much more popular if they improved the new player experince

[wind axle]

2nd act of poe1 ur already zooming with flasks and frostblink and shit like

[errant flower]

yea I think poe2 has it's merits, it will probably be fun in the future idk

[plush gulch]

im gonna let you all debate to death

deciding if we deport fajita or not

[errant flower]

I expect to be playing poe2 after I retire (thats not too far in the future, maybe like 10 years)

[heady cliff]

50% action speed to all poe2 characters, -30% of map size, and it might have been an _A_RPG

[polar hamlet]

id much rather get tickled by eternal izaro over and over until i can eventually even do ubers, all the while doing many other mechanics at the same time

[heady cliff]

as for now, A is sorely lacking in poo2

[proud gorge]

The thing is, PoE2 is theoretically exactly what I want, a more challenging and interactive campaign with more interactive skills. I've said before that my optimal ARPG would be something like D2 but with PoE's build expression.

The problem is what they made instead is D2 but with D2's build expression...

[plush gulch]

your old are you a real life templar ? do you have a neck diseasealso

[wind axle]

👀

[plush gulch]

my feed is spammed with trump stuff dont pay attention

the files

[wind axle]

but the.... jank. bad kind of jank. getting stuck on map type of jank. weird ass laggy 1998 dodge button jank

its bad

feels bad to play

[errant flower]

I am exaggerating but close yeah

[proud gorge]

I want to like PoE2, but man, the build and character expression in that game is so low, and every time someone comes up with something powerful and interesting it just gets nerfed into the ground

[wind axle]

knew it

[plush gulch]

im 28

[polar hamlet]

poe2 feels so slow to play aswell, compared to being able to become lightning mcqueen with a atomic bomb strapped to your hand

3 edits and i got it

[errant flower]

I have issues with visual clarity in poe2 btw, maybe it is just grainy on console

[short radish]

Yay I killed hillock

[wind axle]

it does have one thing going for it is the juicy ass crunchy sound design. god damn it feels nice to pop screens with herald of ice in that game

[proud gorge]

I don't mind a slower and more deliberate gameplay experience, I just hate how much player choice and gameplay expression is gimped.

[errant flower]

poe1 has like crazy screen clutter but is more readable lol

[wind axle]

right? 15 years newer, a sprint, a dodge button, and you can move while casting and it STILL feels slower than poe1 😂

[plush gulch]

he is a great guy if you forget about the children that got touched and all the crime he commited and all the taxes he avoided and.. oh

[proud gorge]

And like, that's not one of those things that'll "get better with time" because that's more down to the direction they're deliberately taking gameplay design in PoE2

[karmic gust]

i like ailments (well other than poison and ignite) in poe2 i think they are pretty fun

but making poison and ignite boring at same time is kinda lame

[polar hamlet]

act 3 poe1 feels faster and more rewarding than endgame poe2

[crisp plinth]

i like tumbling in poe2 i think we need a drink water mechanic too

[karmic gust]

bleed is just as bad as poe1 still i assume

[wind axle]

he really isnt even if you ignore that 😂 0 redeeming qualities

[karmic gust]

so thats fine nothing changed xd

[errant flower]

I think I am about to quit phrecia 2.0 though, too hard for me and I think fewer people playing on PS5 this event so trade is even scarce

[heady cliff]

second part of act 2 already

[plush gulch]

im joking lol don't worry

[wind axle]

you think they'll redo the endgame?

[heady cliff]

when you get heralds and faster cast/attack gems

[errant flower]

If I were to start on PC today, what would be the easiest? ele hit surfcaster?

[heady cliff]

and two guaranteed quicksilvers

[polar hamlet]

SPEEEED

[plush gulch]

@wind axlewould be nice if people on other side would be any better..

corruptied

from the BEAST

[heady cliff]

surfcaster is paper

it freezes stuff, but it is paper

[proud gorge]

I complained when PoE2 came out that their direction of skill design sucked in how it restricted player expression and build design, and I got a bunch of responses like "oh it's early access, it'll get better when they add more skills", but like, no? The big issue I have isn't that there aren't enough skills, it's that the skills that they've already put into the game to signpost their direction with regards to skill design are boring as fuck.

[karmic gust]

ele hit ancestrarl commander

[plush gulch]

well played 😎

[tranquil umbra]

bog RF

[errant flower]

I mean that is my current char and I am crying. I have 2.5m dps on pob but I cannot kill eater, it keeps living with 1 hp, maybe the game expects me to focus and dodge

[tranquil umbra]

or Pala RF

[heady cliff]

bog RF requires 30-35 divines runegraft

if you dont have funds, dont

[crisp plinth]

flicker wildspeaker best

[errant flower]

Like I havent even had to learn any moves besides the circles thing in the past, eater was the easiest for me

[proud gorge]

there's a very specific line in my review that I think really sums up the whole thing.

PoE1 has multiple builds per skill, while PoE2 has multiple skills per build.

[karmic gust]

is bog rf even better than just rf on normal ascendancy outside of phrecia

[errant flower]

now he/she is making me cry

[heady cliff]

yes

absolutely and ten times yes

raw hp pool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditional defences

[wind axle]

bro i like the gear socket struggle i fucking hate gems being what has sockets

idk its dumb as fuck

the gear socket rune things are also...

horrible idk. it feels so bad i cant put my finger on it

i like old school games

[dry tree]

I don't see why it would be, that whole build just crutches on chieftain explodes and max res as of current

[tranquil umbra]

personally moving sockets on to gems was like the best thing they made

[plush gulch]

you old fajita

[karmic gust]

yea there isnt anything conditional about chief defenses

[crisp plinth]

cos having 15-20k hp is kinda good

[proud gorge]

depends what your goal is. Bog Shaman is really good for life-based RF, but is weaker than base game Scion in terms of absolute RF damage. The thing is, the DoT-cap RF Scion build is also absurdly expensive, and not that tanky on lower investment.

[plush gulch]

let the world be replaced with freshly made fajita

[wind axle]

i understand this is a subjective gripe. i know a lot of people like it

[heady cliff]

20% ele pen? just run it, it is only 3x the damage instead of 7x the damage of 90% res build

[crisp plinth]

but its still just rf

[wind axle]

-# i dont actually like fajitas

[plush gulch]

idk what it is I never go out

and im french

[heady cliff]

wait nvm

[plush gulch]

not a local food

[wind axle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fajitas-chicken-3o85xHAKCUZiIvRNPq

[heady cliff]

you are talking about rf me dumb

[wind axle]

SACRE BLEU?!

[pulsar dune]

https://pobb.in/1nadh4nZrRd7 if the mechanics work like I think they do, it's actually kinda decent

[errant flower]

Oh wait you guys were responding to me about easiest build? Ok maybe other than RF, I am old but not THAT old

[plush gulch]

oh this my little brother made me those once or twice

I remember

[karmic gust]

what were you talking about lol

[wind axle]

i was just watching a skater on youtube skating on that museum thing in front of the eiffel tower

been there too. beautiful but yall rude as fuck

[heady cliff]

bv

[pulsar dune]

sadly fledgling is actually kinda desirable, so probably not that feasible at leaguestart

[plush gulch]

btw it's like saying all american are like one from new york 😔

[dry tree]

I mean sure people have done the hybrid 15k life 10k ES RF on inquis, people have done 30k ES RF on trickster, people do str stack 15k life 45k ES RF on ascendant and I don't think phrecia is providing anything meaningfully better to make that skill less limp

[karmic gust]

ah

yea regular bv is garbage anyway

in regular league i mean

[wind axle]

the people working there are very, not the people living

[heady cliff]

but my point about huge hp pool being best defence still stands

[plush gulch]

france is big

[wind axle]

i know yall cool as fuck dw

yeah i am aware

[crisp plinth]

i mean a big fat more multi on your ascendancy is kinda nice

over flaccid trickster

[plush gulch]

paris people very busy, little patience for foreigner

[karmic gust]

well that depends halfof these life stackers have worse defenses than my 4k life pahtfinder :d

[plush gulch]

and not warm

[karmic gust]

if you actually later the huge hp pool with somehting then sure

[errant flower]

How does pbod surfcaster feel? It should be better than ele hit vs bosses right?

[wind axle]

i understand it its justified, but paris specifically is. need to visit other places like Nice

[dry tree]

0 gem scaling just kinda wretched

[karmic gust]

but BV with huge life pool is def better than regular BV which usually has actual 0 defenses anyway

[naive stirrup]

time to gamble

[heady cliff]

25k hp pool with 75% res and no other defences feels better than 90% res 600k armor 6k es armor stacker

[hoary scarab]

986 gold huge

[heady cliff]

it is so good

you have no dodge, no armor and you can run all those mods

[wind axle]

let him have fun dude

[plush gulch]

I think all big big cities are like this, you lose connection with people everyone is more alone and ignore other people, you get more annoyed with tourists when u try to live your life, you never say hello to ppl because you are busy and you see 500 person a day in the street

[errant flower]

dont gamble

[proud gorge]

here's the RF builds:
Chieftain: lowest barrier to entry, but also kind of low damage. Requires Hinekora explode and/or Fire Trap to kill larger enemies.
Mana Heiro: hipster build, good scaling, but very fiddly.
ES Guardian: easiest ES build to start, can scale extremely high with int stack, but gets lower damage than Scion at very high budget
ES Scion: highest damage RF variant, can hit DoT cap with RF alone, requires incredibly high investment to match Guardian

Bog Shaman: lifestack, also pretty low barrier to entry (though higher than Chieftain), does pretty good damage also with RF alone.

[karmic gust]

yea but its not better than 4k life petrified progen sublime pathfinder :d

[heady cliff]

perhaps, but raw hp is still very good

[wind axle]

its because tourists are annoying as fuck and then the patience runs thin, i can relate 100% to that 😂 i should have said "ppl from paris" not "france"

[karmic gust]

well nothing is also stopping you from running progen or divine flesh on top of the life stacker

so yea its (can be) good

[heady cliff]

and it is top tier tankyness

[naive stirrup]

welp got nothing good

[wind axle]

keep gambling

you win eventually

😈

[proud gorge]

so yeah, if you want an easy and simple walking simulator RF build, you go Chieftain. If you want a high-scaling int-stack build but don't have absurd money in your pocket already, you go Guardian ES RF. If you want to be a hipster, you go Mana Hiero RF.

[stuck phoenix]

Hiero

[wind axle]

chat im joking gambling is bad ok

[proud gorge]

and if you have the money and will to go Scion RF, you'd already know

you wouldn't need a list to tell you lmao

[naive stirrup]

i mean what to do with coins expect to gamble it

[keen veldt]

can I beast reroll a corrupted awakened gem

no right?

[kindred silo]

also ele

[karmic gust]

save them to respect

[wind axle]

early game you can use the coins to refund your passive points on the tree, so you dont have to use regret orbs

[proud gorge]

If it doesn't specify that it can modify a corrupted gem, you can't use it to modify a corrupted gem.

[karmic gust]

dont waste them in acts on vendors

[wind axle]

respect o7

[karmic gust]

lol

[pulsar dune]

ele RF is just if you want to level a witch and are feeling lazy, no?

[proud gorge]

oh yeah, forgot about the Ele RF build. That's a high damage, low defenses variant.

[karmic gust]

ele RF is just big clearspeed

[naive stirrup]

but i already have plan to use my skill

[karmic gust]

and thats it

[heady cliff]

gambling in acts on a fresh character is very good

it gives lucky items

[karmic gust]

idk why are you playing RF while wanting big clearspeed but hey its there

[wind axle]

sometimes you might want to refund a point or 2 to get some more important points

or you misclick

maybe that's just me

[proud gorge]

it's not that big a deal, the amount of gold you get goes up rapidly as you progress through campaign

[wind axle]

one might say exponentially

[naive stirrup]

im already at the peak for my item in act 2 im just trying to find a way to get to act 3

[proud gorge]

so spending some gold early is easily made up for by just going further into acts and killing more enemies there

[karmic gust]

depends on how much you need to respec but respecing a lot on league start is pretty op

i do try to gamba for weapons sometimes but for other pieces i would never

[proud gorge]

oh hey, Storm Cloud

that's a fun bow early on

just a nice early pure ele bow

[heady cliff]

4L gloves/helmet in early acts is another good option

[naive stirrup]

btw hwo do i escape act 2 im really just at its peak and dont know where to go to act 3

[proud gorge]

Act 2 definitely spreads out

you need the gem from one place, the spike from another place, and also you need to deal with the bandits

[wind axle]

go back to town and talk to npc?

[proud gorge]

Act 2 is easily the most non-linear act

[wind axle]

oh if you open the map it shows you the quest points where you need to go

[naive stirrup]

no ! symbol

[lapis dove]

is it possible to modify the weapons in a way that you get the exact stats you need for your build?

[wind axle]

yes

[naive stirrup]

it so vauge

[plush gulch]

@wind axleoh btw if you enter a shop or anything or start to talk to people here you need to say Bonjour or it's seen as very rude and people may be rude in return it's like what we learn since we are little

may you next time be better

[proud gorge]

I mean, sort of? That's crafting, and there's lots of ways of doing so, depending on how much you're willing to spend and how much work you're willing to put in, but on a very basic level you can just do benchcrafting, letting you craft a single extra mod onto any item very cheaply

[wind axle]

bonsoir monsiour, sa va bien?

[plush gulch]

😂

[wind axle]

click the other icons on the bottom

[lapis dove]

does that usually consume a lot of materials?

[proud gorge]

benchcrafting is usually quite cheap

the other crafting methods vary wildly

usually the more specific of an item you're going for, the more resources it costs yeah

[proud gorge]

in most cases, once you complete campaign, you can most easily get items you want just by trading with other players

since there's a lot of dedicated crafters out there

[wind axle]

you missed a mob pack in that map on the right? i think

[proud gorge]

who get to "save money" on crafting because instead of crafting one specific item they're usually crafting anything that'll sell

[wind axle]

and crafting is fun as fuck

[proud gorge]

so it's usually cheaper to buy crafted items than craft them yourself, unless you're going for something hyperspecific that needs to be especially crafted anyways

or, like, Ward gear

ward gear is always massively overpriced

[naive stirrup]

okie

[nocturne thistle]

Those are different quests. The gold border quests are main story while blue ones are sidequests. When you highlight the quest it tells you what zone to go to for it.

If you want step-by-step instructions then you can look at: https://poe-leveling.com

[lapis dove]

ah i see i was actually just about to ask if its cheaper to just buy them

[naive stirrup]

oh okie i see

[proud gorge]

usually yeah

though since nobody really trades with currencies below 1 chaos, usually there's not much point buying gear until you're at the point where spending 1 chaos is cheap

so, like, Act 8 at least

[wind axle]

therre are some good items for like 1 alch sometimes, if u have really bad gear

ive been down bad and had to resort to that lol

[lapis dove]

is it possible to "upgrade" the stats of the items or is it 100% rng dependant?

[nocturne thistle]

There are a few really good leveling uniques that you can get for 1 alch or 1 c.

[lapis dove]

oh nice

[proud gorge]

You can't generally upgrade item stats no

there's a couple methods but they're very expensive so you'd only really use them on high tier crafting

usually you just get a new item

[elfin shale]

huh
wonder whats causing that

[nocturne thistle]

If you hover over an item with alt pressed you can see the stat bands for the modifiers. You can reroll using divine and blessed orbs within those bands, but it’s really expensive and not worth it until endgame.

[heady cliff]

wild strike of extremes?

[proud gorge]

Extremes!

[lapis dove]

oh yeah thats exactly what i was wondering about

[elfin shale]

Archmage Reap, comparing with and without Whispers of Infinity
Im wondering why its so much cheaper once i slap on Whispers

[keen veldt]

this esh shield with damage can’t be reflected is kinda nice

[elfin shale]

Oh wait it might be because of the 40% reduced mana

[lapis dove]

but i guess unless you get exactly the stats you need for the items its probably not a good idea

[wind axle]

the items have tiers on the title of the mod, and then the numbers have a range in parenthesis. you cant change tiers but you can get a higher roll between those numbers

[proud gorge]

you very rarely need hyperspecific stats on an item

[wind axle]

using the divine orbs and blessed orbs

[proud gorge]

usually you're good with any item that vaguely resembles the item you want

like a helmet with high life and resistances

on an armour base

[lapis dove]

ah i see i guess what i was thinking was more along the lines of minmaxing but thats probably not worth it here especially considering that there isnt pvp as far as i know

[proud gorge]

minmaxing is very expensive yeah

[nocturne thistle]

Divine orbs are typically 100-300c each and you’ll probably have to reroll multiple times. In most cases you’re looking at a very minor stat increase.

[proud gorge]

it's usually the last thing people do

because there's almost always more improvements that are both more impactful and also cheaper than minmaxing every roll

[lapis dove]

wow...yeah thats very expensive

[proud gorge]

yeah it's not at all worth divining items that aren't themselves worth at least 100 div

[wind axle]

the first div i used was on this unique belt that had "increased effect from socketed abyss jewels", hit max roll first try

lol

[shrewd rock]

minmaxing in poe is a bit different from stuff like d4

[wind axle]

idk the name

[shrewd rock]

if that's what you're used to

usually minmaxing in poe involves crafting a new item that's strong in some way, and fully reshuffling the rest of your gear to fix the holes it introduces

[lapis dove]

tbh i have never played d4 lol

[shrewd rock]

rather than pushing up your gear stats from 90% to 95% for example

well i mean, in general, a lot of games set up their minmaxing like that lol

[karmic gust]

darkness enthroned and that belt even at max roll is usually worth less than div :d

[proud gorge]

yeah PoE has a lot of build interactivity, so the point at which "minor improvements to stats on gear" becomes worthwhile is usually incredibly late

and on top of that, if you absolutely need max roll on something, it's almost always cheaper to just buy it already max rolled

that's usually for uniques

since they vary only by their rolls

[wind axle]

early league?

think it was 5 or 6 when i checked?

[karmic gust]

this heavily depends on build, some builds just completely stop scaling past certain point

[elfin shale]

lol

[shrewd rock]

there's also multiple ways to optimize uniques

corruptions, double corrupts etc

[wind axle]

showing 9 div on keepers max rolled

[shrewd rock]

lots of build interactivity

compared to other games lol

[proud gorge]

max roll Darkness Enthroned in Phreacia 2.0 is currently 10 div btw

[karmic gust]

early depends if ppl are playing minions or not but yea very early its fine, but also waste of time to trry and do that

[wind axle]

i mean i got 99 not 100 tbh

[wind axle]

it was a reset, dropped a div and sent it 😂

or an event idk

or a private league?

[shrewd rock]

are ppl playing phrecia v2 lol

it looked so ass

that i would've expected a lot of skippers

[proud gorge]

plenty of people are yeah

[wind axle]

its so fun

[proud gorge]

it's a "new league restart"

so even if it had nothing else a lot of people would be playing it regardless

[nocturne thistle]

I finished the campaign and realized that I didn’t want the second lootbox enough to keep playing

[karmic gust]

im not, idols are ass as a concept

[shrewd rock]

it just seems so weird to me that they're doing event leagues even though they can barely figure out how to make the normal leagues good lol

given that they're super understaffed

for poe1

[proud gorge]

I mean, to be fair, this is literally just two existing event leagues mashed together

[shrewd rock]

yeah but there's still an opportunity cost, since it takes designer/dev time that could've been spent elsewhere

[proud gorge]

from what I understand the actual bulk of the "dev work" on a new league isn't actually dev work, it's art team work

which is why all the new leagues just use recycled assets from PoE2

or in the case of Mercenaries, entirely recycled assets

[shrewd rock]

they can also do improvements to existing mechniacs

like for example

[proud gorge]

whenever GGG complains about needing "the entire team" on something, they mean the art team

[shrewd rock]

delve, harbinger, heist are all very outdated in terms of gameplay

they could use another pass

rather than the dev time being spent on phrecia

ehh

[elfin shale]

how do i budget this my family is starving

[proud gorge]

dev time really isn't being spent on Phrecia, I assure you. It's two old event leagues mashed together, with some minor adjustments, and the enrage mod added to all zones. This took one or two devs one afternoon.

[karmic gust]

i think harbs are fine they just need to make divine frags so the harbs arent better used as beyond fodder

and if harbs rework would be anything similar to breach rework nty

[proud gorge]

I mean, it might have taken longer if they got held up by meetings or something

but the actual work developing the event league is like a couple hours for 1-2 devs

[shrewd rock]

i mean, as a software engineer. i'll tell you.

management promises that it'll just be 1-2 engineers taking one afternoon.

in reality, it's 1-2 weeks of bugfixing/support work

@karmic gust does that seem like a fair assessment

LOL

[karmic gust]

sounds about right :d

[proud gorge]

eh, I doubt they did 1-2 weeks of bugfixing/support work lmao

maybe on OG Phrecia

[shrewd rock]

then you underestimate how much shit gets fucked

when code is involved

[proud gorge]

I'm... also a software developer?

I'm well aware

[brazen vector]

[proud gorge]

but my point is that the work done for Phrecia 2.0 is entirely just surface level stuff, and also I don't think it was tested all that in-depth

[split maple]

given the bugs like incarnations not droping loot on first kill early they just took ziz gauntlet

and swaped a few mods

[proud gorge]

yeah, I'm not saying things couldn't have gotten fucked, they very much did, I'm just saying that I highly doubt they allocated anywhere near that much dev time to debugging

[fallow fern]

is there anyway to make recoup faster/better for low investment

[shrewd rock]

the actual implementation yeah it's 1 afternoon.

but stuff like this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3909914
and this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3910167

does take significant engineer time

[karmic gust]

you can get life recovery rate to make recoup faster

[shrewd rock]

like read through the bugs

[proud gorge]

recovery rate init?

[karmic gust]

but better solution is usuaully to click more recoup on tree and get good rings if you actually care about recup

[fallow fern]

i have 50% dmg recoup from that scavenger node so i am just wondering if i can make use of it

[karmic gust]

crafting fat recoup life life on hit rings is actually giga easy

[shrewd rock]

i'm sure some of them are easy to fix but it's definitely eating up time that could've been used elsewhere

[proud gorge]

I mean, yeah

[shrewd rock]

that's my problem with it

the team is already understaffed

[proud gorge]

but, again, in practice from what I've seen of GGG, the programmer time is by far the lowest hurdle for new leagues

[fallow fern]

last thing is evasion or armour better for life recoup

i am guessing armour

[heady hull]

Hi, does someone have to recommend me a good Flicker build?

[proud gorge]

the biggest time barrier is generally art assets

[proud gorge]

in Keepers or in Phrecia

[heady hull]

Phrecia

[karmic gust]

armour but it doesnt rly matter much

[split maple]

just check what magefist is cooking on youtube

[proud gorge]

probably WIldspeaker anything then

[fallow fern]

just kinda curious thanks for the help

[split maple]

prolly ancestral commander looks smexier than wildspeaker, tho both are good

[proud gorge]

Wildspeaker solves frenzy charges by itself

so just take that, grab frenzy, and go to town

Wildspeaker also does the, uh, damage per dex thing

so I guess probably dex stack?

[heady hull]

Ty

[plush fjord]

Is there a way to actually summon 30 hiveborn with tulgrafts or is it just a cap for no reason?

[pulsar dune]

I'd assume every minion has to have a cap in poe

[plush fjord]

Yes, but like - the duration on them is the same as the cooldown afaik, or very, very close. If that's the case and there's no real way to increase it, the cap is just kind of an arbitrary number, so I was curious if people knew a way to hit the cap.

[eternal mango]

Guys what does siphon elements do is it good for COC comet setup?

[karmic gust]

who knows, might be

but also #2┃general

[crimson hearth]

im tryna gather currency to start ambush again for scarabs is blight good way

[brazen vector]

pee2

[crimson hearth]

someone recomended it but idk where to start

[naive stirrup]

what am i seeing here

[stuck phoenix]

Triple

[modern zinc]

good things

[stuck phoenix]

Anyways isn't it different slots

[naive stirrup]

i dont how craft bench works

[stuck phoenix]

Try putting in a body armour

Then put in a ring or something

Or just clicking on those tabs

Or am I misremembering

[naive stirrup]

oh i see

if im going archer bow should i go strenght?

[tranquil umbra]

if you are starting Ranger you will naturally be a Dex based character mostly

[elfin shale]

Farrul's should allow Gluttonous Tide to do the funny infinite barrage thing super easily right?

[lilac parcel]

maybe alc and go ?

[crimson hearth]

sure but blight ravaged maps or not?

[lilac parcel]

well yeah you could try them but the what build and map tier you running ?

[pulsar dune]

sadly, that setup is gone

[crimson hearth]

ele hit deadeye and regular t116s still no juiced maps only 2voidstones

[lilac parcel]

you on league ?

[crimson hearth]

yes

[lilac parcel]

you want to farm scarabs ?

[crimson hearth]

yeah for ambush

[lilac parcel]

what you need the big scarab ?

[naive stirrup]

can this help bo w?

[crimson hearth]

containment

[crimson hearth]

yeah that one

[lilac parcel]

the fat one

[crimson hearth]

ya

[lilac parcel]

150 chaos a piece 1 divine a piecfe

wow

[elfin shale]

Who was it hurting bruh

[crimson hearth]

yeah im broke asf cant even aford that thats why im checking out blight

[lilac parcel]

broek af=alch and go

open a beer , put on some good music make an good atlas tree

[crimson hearth]

i mean sure

[lilac parcel]

do normal harvest probably

sell the lifeforce

etc

[crimson hearth]

harvest on console is no profit bassicly esp in league no one buys lifeforce anymore

[lilac parcel]

i doubt it

[crimson hearth]

sure man

[lilac parcel]

i really do man

[crimson hearth]

i mean i have 9 listings of lifeforce none selled all yellow

[mossy remnant]

any good Oshabi bow builds that can anyone recommand for phercia league

[gritty garnet]

on oshabi you can play any right side eva stacking bow attacks, then pick up forest tracking and shrines for generic scaling

[craggy ridge]

Hello all, can some1 explain to me how some people are able to get more than a min of shrine buff on oshabi? im barely hitting 30ish seconds...

[uneven gust]

i heard leaguestart had illegal plant selling allegations for 27 mirrors? what is this schedule 1 league?

[short radish]

I just killed all the monsters in the fetid pool it's really fun so far

[wind axle]

love reading this

[shrewd fiber]

does item quant / rarity affect bargaining loot from betrayal?

on map

[whole bluff]

random map mod: Map is inhabitated by kitava's heralds

[shrewd fiber]

can i just run white maps for betrayal bargaining strats?

[thick goblet]

wdym bargaining strats? i think syndicate medallion drop rate is tied to safehouse area level

unless you meant scoured t16s

[whole bluff]

to some degree I wonder if they actually intended for players to enjoy these changes

[elfin shale]

Are there any attacks that directly scale damage with projectiles that dont risk enemies walking out of them like Blast Rain?

and can be used by a bow

[shrewd fiber]

i mean farming betrayal in maps, you can bargain with them sometimes for items. does rarity/quant affect those items dropped?

is safehouse area level tied to the star rank of the leader?

[wind axle]

is this mod on this armor affected by oath of oaji?

[elfin shale]

Thats not a local mod

[wind axle]

so it doesnt?

[elfin shale]

No

[wind axle]

ok just the implicits right

[elfin shale]

Just the number up top below quality

[wind axle]

yeah thats what i meant. thanks

[sleek barn]

wha do you mean by this

[elfin shale]

are there any bow attacks that scale damage with added projectiles

Like im pretty sure Molten Strike does but thats not bow

[sleek barn]

like for shotgunning purposes

[elfin shale]

yeah that

[sleek barn]

thunderstorm I suppose ? I haven't read up on it though

[proud gorge]

it's any sequential attack

[sleek barn]

scourge arrow

[elfin shale]

in hell

[proud gorge]

Any sequential attack scales damage with projectiles, eg Barrage

or anything linked to Barrage support

[elfin shale]

Im worried about things just walking out though

Since your character wont reaim once you start right

[proud gorge]

I mean, barrage is pretty fast

but if that's an issue, just pick an attack that can't miss

[sleek barn]

it shoots the arrows pretty fast

[elfin shale]

also Dan im cookin some bullshit again

[sleek barn]

do you need to not miss for some reason

[elfin shale]

it makes me sad

[sleek barn]

if you weren't cooking bullshit I would be concerned

[proud gorge]

Barrage Totems

lmao

[elfin shale]

NOW we're cookin with gas

[sleek barn]

I go tunnel farewell

[elfin shale]

But also i dont think that works with Gluttonous Tide 😔

[proud gorge]

I played Impale Barrage Totems Champion once a long time ago

it, uh, sucked ass

[elfin shale]

Did you know you can run Wildspeaker and Replica Farrul's to get full frenzies with every aspect swap

[proud gorge]

yeah Gluttinous Tide requires that it be used by you

hmm, I assume that the Artillery Ballista doesn't count, despite that definitely being a Bow skill with the Attack tag used by you

[elfin shale]

dang thatd be tight if it did

[proud gorge]

probably because the Attack tag describes the totem attack, not you summoning the totem

[elfin shale]

I think it is an attack bow skill but it doesnt fire projectiles so it doesnt work

It just summons a totem which then uses a skill

Maybe ill do EHotS barrage since gluttonous has bad flat

[proud gorge]

technically Blink Arrow and Mirror Arrow scale with projectiles and can't miss, but again, same issue, it's not you attacking

hmm, how about... Galvanic Arrow with Barrage Support

it fires in a cone

as long as you're close enough to the enemy, it should still hit

[elfin shale]

Yeah that would work but Galv's damage is SO ass

[proud gorge]

I'm not sure if Galvanic Arrow actually works with Barrage Support

[elfin shale]

It does

And it does a cone each time

[proud gorge]

how about Galvanic Arrow of Energy?

since that doesn't actually fire any projectiles

[elfin shale]

Doesnt actually fire a projectile so it doesnt work i dont think

ill hop in game and check

[proud gorge]

but yeah the easiest way to guarentee that the arrows always hit would be, uh, Chain I think? Can you chain off nothing?

[elfin shale]

You need a separate Chain Off Terrain thing

[gritty garnet]

there's no guarantee because not all areas have terrain within chaining distance

[elfin shale]

wait this is kind of awesome

[proud gorge]

but yeah, every arrow skill has some chance to miss, it's just a question of how much room for error you need, especially since Barrages do come out very fast, even with a lot of arrows

[elfin shale]

Yeah i kind of underestimated barrage speed

[proud gorge]

notably, Barrage support does work a bit differently to actual Barrage

actual Barrage, the skill, will fire any number of arrows during the same attack time

[elfin shale]

16 projectiles, approximately whatd id be getting with Gluttonous Tide

[proud gorge]

so even if you have 200 arrows, they'll all be fired in the same attack time

meanwhile Barrage support does minorly increase the attack time for each additional arrow

so actual Barrage is better if you just want raw mass of fire

[brazen vector]

new fancy boots crafted

[proud gorge]

while Barrage Support is nice for getting that sequential damage going on

on a normally non-barrage skill

[elfin shale]

I think Barrage works here

[elfin shale]

This is very aesthetically pleasing though

[proud gorge]

yeah Barrage support is very fun

not as many applications, though, unfortunately

its damage penalty is just usually too significant to justify using for any application where your damage actually matters

[elfin shale]

having to sac both rings kinda sucks though

[proud gorge]

what are you using your rings for?

frenzy charges?

[elfin shale]

Reduced skill duration for Aspect of The Cat

[proud gorge]

ah, yeah, that'd do it

just get some frenzy charge on hit smh

[elfin shale]

true i guess

[proud gorge]

that way you can just regain frenzy charges off hitting enemies with crits

I thought that was why you wanted to never miss

[elfin shale]

no i just cringe inside whenever a projectile whiffs lol

[proud gorge]

so that you could get a frenzy charge for each arrow hit, thus letting you recycle the frenzy charges

each attack generating frenzy charges for the next attack

[elfin shale]

Oh hey Ice Bite solves all my flat damage woes

Do i go Usurper's Penance for 70% chance at frenzy on hit

its a dead helmet otherwise

[elfin shale]

oh this one's prolly better

[neon steppe]

kills check

[proud gorge]

I'm sure Frenzy on Crit exists, right?

or equivalent

[elfin shale]

Wait holy shit

[limpid prairie]

Get frenzies from influenced chest and curse xD

[elfin shale]

I go Scavenger and get 100% ignite chance and just use Oro's Sacrifice node

[proud gorge]

that works yeah

for the duration of Phrecia anyways lmao

[elfin shale]

real

im gonna ignore phrecia actually

[uneven gust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-week-play-13B1WmJg7HwjGU

[proud gorge]

wait Gluttinous Tide already gives up to 40% chance of frenzy on crit

[elfin shale]

Yeah

40% tho

wait i fire more projectiles than my frenzies

its prolly fineish

[proud gorge]

yeah

depends on how many base projectiles vs frenzies

[uneven gust]

try barrage support?

[proud gorge]

this is already using Barrage lmao

but yeah, base Barrage does fire 6 projectiles, then your frenzy charges produce some number of extra

[elfin shale]

this setup maybe?

[visual dome]

Damn i need to write down my requests for days off in march 😄 when do we reckon new league is gonna drop? First or second weekend? 😄

[elfin shale]

Is there a source of when you gain a frenzy charge gain up to your maximum?

[smoky lichen]

which class deadeye belong to?

[elfin shale]

If i could get even like 5% that'd solve everything

[elfin shale]

Ranger

[smoky lichen]

should I pick Keeper's league or Phericia 2.0?

[elfin shale]

Deadeye does not exist in Phrecia