Its fun though!
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brazen vector
bold scarab
You only have 3 ascendancy passives that do anything
elfin shale
Idk why its not a white gem spell
elfin shale
Yeah no Call of Steel is still a thing
bold scarab
Ye
elfin shale
Equip any skill that uses Steel Shards or any unique that does
bold scarab
Ye but then they wouldn't have had an excuse to shaft base steel skills
whole bluff
That would be cool
bold scarab
Lol
elfin shale
Fuck
Starforge should totally inflict Wither and make Wither increase phys damage taken
Then you can do Pride+Flesh+Vulnerability+Shock+Withered 
2 morbillion increased damage taken
whole bluff
That could be cool
brazen vector
I use the elder gloves for call of steel for spell impale
whole bluff
You mean entropic devastation? They're giga
brazen vector
Yea those
whole bluff
Full impale chance, check. 50% impale effect, check. Save 30 passives and be a phys build
split maple
yea idk if this will run out of mana or frenzies faster: https://pobb.in/Kzmgl7uEtjqn
elfin shale
You mean entropic devastation? They're giga
Impale Reap was my first build, that shit fucked hard
whole bluff
Man, poor phys dual strike of ambidex needs like 20 points of fixing strikes and 30 points of fixing phys scaling
Or maybe I overestimate impale investment
frigid wedge
yea idk if this will run out of mana or frenzies faster: https://pobb.in/Kzmgl7u...
considering its 8aps
frenzies will not sustain on farrul
but it will run out of life before frenzies or mana anyway so what does it even matter
scarlet jacinth
portal defensive layer
split maple
arcane cloak uptime is pretty good in practice /s
scarlet jacinth
Its always up when you're not taking big hits
elfin shale
Or maybe I overestimate impale investment
30 sounds low
Impale investment is fucked you need basically every cluster -2
You can drop the cluster thats only impale effect and you can drop one % chance cluster
brazen vector
1 large cluster gaming
finite quail
Don't need more than one
Can't fit more than one either
God this build is gonna be so stupid
Life stacking bog shaman burning arrow of vigour, converting it into chaos ignite with blackflame
this is a certified gas leak sentence
brazen vector
barren river
go blood sacrament
whole bluff
Man, the antisynergy of Oath of the Maji and Spellslinger ascendancy points is frustrating
finite quail
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brapglorp
spice pecan
frigid wedge
glorp noway
past mantle
brazen vector
barren river
glorp
frigid wedge
glorp
brazen vector
Glorp
quasi willow
is this an influence?
visual stream
fragture
split maple
splash is important for flicker rite
whole bluff
I think so, idk
brazen vector
is this an influence?
Indicates the item has an unchangeable mod via a fracture
quasi willow
oh yeah yeah youre right Im dumb lol
whole bluff
splash is important for flicker rite
It has no base AoE
past mantle
is this an influence?
Yes and no.
It has a fractured mod that's static and can't be changed but eater/exarch items can be applied to it.
Synth and conqueror/elder/shaper influence couldn't be.
frigid wedge
splash is important for flicker rite
just allocate tribal fury
past mantle
splash is important for flicker rite
Very.
whole bluff
So to add an AoE, need splash
whole bluff
just allocate tribal fury
Ye. Anoint if need be
brazen vector
oh yeah yeah youre right Im dumb lol
You're not dumb, youre asking the right questions!
split maple
anoint tribal fury & take whispers via impossible escape: https://pobb.in/7tTysyUGIi-k
grabed a bit more mana leech so i think spend is justifiable to this point 😛
lucid kiln
brazen vector
Yes and no.
It has a fractured mod that's static and can't be changed but eater/...
Id not say yes at all, like replicas dont have an influence (unless they do e.g. eternity shroud) despite having a funky icon next to the name, just like veiled items (iirc?)
quasi willow
Yes and no.
It has a fractured mod that's static and can't be changed but eater/...
where can I see the list of each influence implicits
brazen vector
where can I see the list of each influence implicits
Poedb has a list under eater and exarch
past mantle
Id not say yes at all, like replicas dont have an influence (unless they do e.g....
It's a yes for how it interacts with other influences.
brazen vector
It's a yes for how it interacts with other influences.
But also no since you cant woke orb it, so I guesssss
frigid wedge
anoint tribal fury & take whispers via impossible escape: https://pobb.in/7tTysy...
what is actually on the precursor
split maple
in my head fracture, synth, influence are mutually exclusive and calling eater/exarch influence is one of somewhat rare naming mistakes in poe
split maple
what is actually on the precursor
+1 max frenzy and 2 dead mods
whole bluff
Id not say yes at all, like replicas dont have an influence (unless they do e.g....
Influence is sorta under special item umbrella, but not other way around imo. You can think of them as similar but influence is just a type of special item status
Though for a newbie you might not bother with the distinction yet
brazen vector
Influence is sorta under special item umbrella, but not other way around imo. Yo...
That i can settle with, would mirrored also be an influence in that case?
frigid wedge
+1 max frenzy and 2 dead mods
ah
whole bluff
Not unless it has a tag where the tags are
brazen vector
But the item looks funky
whole bluff
Mirrored is like special, most tags don't disallow crafting
Mirrored to me seems more like corrupted?
split maple
mirrored allows anoint, corrupted allows tainted currencies
its different sort of disalowed
split maple
yea i wouldnt rly want to introduce umbrela terms there
stuff is just different enough to be confusing
whole bluff
Yup
Also, it's not like fractured and influenced share status really, just where they display it and they usually prevent getting the other tag
split maple
life fractured stuff can have eater/exarch but no "real" influence, synth stuff "can" have eater/exarch (removes synth implicits) but no real influence, influ stuff cannot have exarch/eater cannot be frac cannot be synth, etc etc
just a lil checklist of what is compatible in headspace 😄
||lets ignore standard||
brazen vector
The wiki has a distinction between influenced items, eldritch items and the special tags
quasi willow
https://poedb.tw/us/Eldritch_implicit
how are these 2 implicits possible then
that's a helmet
brazen vector
how are these 2 implicits possible then
Eater and exarch implicits, you can have both
whole bluff
life fractured stuff can have eater/exarch but no "real" influence, synth stuff ...
Iirc, I tried using eldritch currency on a synth item recently and it wouldn't let me
I was like, shitty synth on good boot give me eater and exarch, ah nope
brazen vector
You can synth eldritch items but not the other way around
pulsar dune
I remember deleting a synth implicit with eldritch currency
whole bluff
Aah
split maple
wiki says its possible to eldritch a synth
brazen vector
Or maybe you can? Idk, nothing I've thought about yet
whole bluff
I will try again once I'm in game to check
compact bronze
if i put penance brand, is it more chance i get the pbod version if i put it in divine font from labs?
or is it really just random
whole bluff
I thought I would be able to
brazen vector
I will try again once I'm in game to check
you need to use ichors instead first
split maple
if i put penance brand, is it more chance i get the pbod version if i put it in ...
its random if its transfig gem of same color, but merc lab and later ones also have option to get transfig version of gem
for the later its 50-50 to get pbod, since pb has 2 transfigs
whole bluff
you need to use ichors instead first
You mean you can ichor but not ember? That wouldn't make any sense
split maple
its like 1 per 10-15 fonts on avg iirc?
zinc stump
Esm stop being lazy
split maple
It's working out for me so far 
zinc stump
Cant argue against that
brazen vector
You mean you can ichor but not ember? That wouldn't make any sense
I meant ichor and ember
zinc stump
Are you phreciaing
split maple
yea
zinc stump
What did you end up going with
barren river
imho you should be able to do frac/influ
zinc stump
Indigon waiting room
whole bluff
I meant ichor and ember
I mean, yeah idk if I'd be likely to ever harvest synth an eldritch item. That sounds like more effort (expensive) than I tend to bother with
zinc stump
Wish i enjoyed idols
split maple
for now i am still mostly ignoring them, gonna start recombing a first "real" setup this weekend if it all goes to plan
old pike
I mean, yeah idk if I'd be likely to ever harvest synth an eldritch item. That s...
i dont think you can use ichor/ember on synth
barren river
idols trash
split maple
rn its just "does it have +tier on it?" into the device it goes
lucid kiln
how are these 2 implicits possible then
dont take my word for it but im guessing exarch and eater implicits are both possible
barren river
i dont think you can use ichor/ember on synth
you can, it trashes the implicit
split maple
whole bluff
Eldritch annul/ex/chaos might make crafting some sick item easier, but to then synth it? What would you even hope to get?
old pike
well there you go
split maple
Eldritch annul/ex/chaos might make crafting some sick item easier, but to then s...
i think its only used when there is only one 30% qual base on trade and its already eldritched
old pike
you can only have 1 type of implicit afaik. either corrupt/synth/ember/ichor
split maple
you can only have 1 type of implicit afaik. either corrupt/synth/ember/ichor
you can still synth eldritch item
barren river
and synth jail requires a magic item
split maple
it just wipes your synth
compact bronze
does this increase explosion size of ice and ignite?
old pike
you can still synth eldritch item
yeah true im wrong on that part. but always 1 implicit ever since i played
split maple
you can have corrupt and synth implicits on same item
barren river
you gilded fossil it
zinc stump
Only 1 influence type
split maple
or just grab 3 synth mods and it wipes one of synths - still got 2 synths leftover
but yea you should gild it
whole bluff
I still don't take for granted wiki is right. I know community knowledge has been it's doable for a while, same as wiki said, but I don't understand what I would have tried doing that didn't work that I mix up with the unable to eldritch synth item experience
zinc stump
you can have corrupt and synth implicits on same item
The cursed adorned jewels
split maple
i am for sure cursing mine yea
zinc stump
They are so much work
split maple
i gave up on corrupt impl
frigid wedge
oof
worldly bridge
giga
too bad it didnt roll hybrid life
although that makes PT harder eventually
still a giga fuckin act 4 chest
brazen vector
hey, its synth map viable at least now
wind axle
bruh im just browsing LSF and pathofexile sub is catching strays 😂
anyone got the lore?»
brazen vector
anyone got the lore?»
its the bex stuff, right?
wind axle
its the bex stuff, right?
im completely OOL
gentle chasm
you dont really need any lore
worldly bridge
im levelling an aristocrat
gentle chasm
subs are still bitching and moaning for anything and everything
tranquil sedge
not bex, she just quit to go work for somewhere else
it was the post-chris wilson kalandra post that it went radio dark for a while no?
gentle chasm
its the reason why ggg rarely post
worldly bridge
just got bored of feeling like im stuck in endgame with my oshabi
so i wanted something fresh
even if i dont take it far thats ok
wind axle
subs are still bitching and moaning for anything and everything
poe sub aint even that bad lmao, i see some people complaining about phrecia (skill issue) but the sub is fine. apex / tarkov subs are WAAAAAY worse
worldly bridge
duelist levelling is still 👌
wind axle
not bex, she just quit to go work for somewhere else
it was the post-chris wilso...
kalandra league? yeah people hated that huh
tranquil sedge
but so does r/2007scape for example and they've got some of the best cm's ever
gentle chasm
different communities tho
wind axle
reddit bitches so much
its insane how much different it is when you actually go and play the game lol. you'd think everyone hates poe by looking at reddit
frigid wedge
gonna swap to jiquanis potential int stack later
woah
whole bluff
I made a:
- Calamitous
- Fuel the Fight
- Martial Prowess
- +3 to all attributes
8-passive with 10% attack dmg enchant. I don't understand if prices are fucked cuz nobody wants them, so me and some other idiots sit with stuff listed for a huge range of random absurd prices and noone will ever sell any of it
tranquil sedge
its insane how much different it is when you actually go and play the game lol....
think about who is posting i mean
wind axle
but nah just a bunch of dudes stuck on act 4
tranquil sedge
the people who don't have anything to add aren't posting
its people who have complaints or issues or feedback
worldly bridge
you can get like 1k int and 600 of the lesser att in early maps for insane damage scaling
wind axle
the people who arent complaining are.... busy playing the game
tranquil sedge
the people who arent complaining are.... busy playing the game
one thing about that statement tho
worldly bridge
just pating to the starter nodes, these
wind axle
its people who have complaints or issues or feedback
something something vocal minority
tranquil sedge
while that is true to a large extent
ppl use it to really easily dismiss actual points
wind axle
100%
im being more general with it. more than 50% of the posts are complaining. but way more ppl are enjoying the game, if you look on global
tranquil sedge
reddit might be stupid half the time and the other half the time its a tossup if they've got anything useful to add
but that it took forever to start getting cm responses and stuff there again is still an active choice ggg made
can't tell me there isn't one person available to hire who'd happily deal with the braindamage there for a good salary lol, guarantee you there's enough applicants for that if you look
frigid wedge
you can get like 1k int and 600 of the lesser att in early maps for insane damag...
what were u doing before
quasi willow
if I got a ring like this, is there anything that I can craft there for the prefixes deterministically or it's all rng
tranquil sedge
not to mention you just ignore the more rude stuff when you want, it doesn't stop you replying or posting for other stuff
tranquil sedge
if I got a ring like this, is there anything that I can craft there for the pref...
what do you mean i mean
worldly bridge
what were u doing before
i was playing fusillade oshabi, just wanted a change of pace
wind axle
reddit might be stupid half the time and the other half the time its a tossup if...
i see but yeah i noticed there is one guy responding on reddit now and that was a bit rare when i started, at least what i remember
tranquil sedge
life is pretty easy there i mean just lock suffix with wild bristle matron (to save divs) and augment life repeatedly until t2+ or something
wind axle
i was playing fusillade oshabi, just wanted a change of pace
lmao same
tranquil sedge
(i wouldn't reforge on this, only add/remove, to avoid chances of bricking)
quasi willow
what do you mean i mean
like is there a way to limit the pool of the prefixes I would get, not necessarily exalt slams
tranquil sedge
and then bench mana cost or some last mod
tranquil sedge
like is there a way to limit the pool of the prefixes I would get, not necessari...
yea
harvest
tagged modifier crafts
that and veiled mods
tranquil sedge
life is pretty easy there i mean just lock suffix with wild bristle matron (to s...
^ this
and finish with a benchcraft
frigid wedge
srev u think its worth it to make an idol set for harvest
tranquil sedge
or if you need a veiled mod you can do that too, veiled exalt (but thats a bit expensive) and finsih with a bench
tranquil sedge
srev u think its worth it to make an idol set for harvest
when is harvest ever not worth it xd
tranquil sedge
a few divs will get you a full set of idols with acceptable wilt chance
a few more divs on top to ensure 2 of them have additional grove mod to cap that at 100%
that's enough to start crop rota
worldly bridge
how is dropping a fuck off amount of juice not fun
frigid wedge
how come
quasi willow
and then bench mana cost or some last mod
what if I need the all attributes as a benched 4th suffixes
tranquil sedge
because you can get stupid amounts of chance to not wilt
quasi willow
I dont really need life
stuck phoenix
life is pretty easy there i mean just lock suffix with wild bristle matron (to s...
Life regen or random suffix be like
frigid wedge
how is dropping a fuck off amount of juice not fun
run most of the map for altars and drop nothing
frigid wedge
because you can get stupid amounts of chance to not wilt
fair
tranquil sedge
Life regen or random suffix be like
ah damn
tranquil sedge
I dont really need life
ignore my earlier remark i missed the open suffix that woulda been rough if it filled
whole bluff
What do whisperers want on their jewels?
tranquil sedge
tho that is also fixable with multimod lock suffix
stuck phoenix
As a side note, if they want all attributes bench, they can multimod suffix lock
tranquil sedge
just makes it more expensive
whole bluff
dex and mana probably
But then this just doesn't make sense
frigid wedge
they get as from body
quasi willow
As a side note, if they want all attributes bench, they can multimod suffix lock
and what's that exactly xd I just started playing this game few days ago
frigid wedge
But then this just doesn't make sense
not double multi
tranquil sedge
what if I need the all attributes as a benched 4th suffixes
look at the list of prefix mods on coe then ig
anything that has a tag that harvest bench offers can be targeted, without risk
the veiled prefix mods can be as well without risk
whole bluff
Ah, hmm
wind axle
-# whisperers
frigid wedge
._.
stuck phoenix
and what's that exactly xd I just started playing this game few days ago
Can have up to three crafted modifiers
Suffixes can not be changed
The latter of which you can apply with beastcraft to save money
tranquil sedge
fair
in the normal game, atlas is 10%, awakening scarab is +50%
total 60% to not wilt
the worst phrecia idols, a set of 8 with 8% wilt chance (lowest roll) is already 64% lol.
frigid wedge
in the normal game, atlas is 10%, awakening scarab is +50%
total 60% to not wil...
ahh
fsirs
finite quail
Anyone knows what this synth implicit rolls on? Can't find what basetype it is
frigid wedge
wait doesnt that mean u can get 100%
frigid wedge
Anyone knows what this synth implicit rolls on? Can't find what basetype it is
zoom out
brazen vector
@tranquil sedge I did your suggested changes and went up by 25% dps, ty again
tranquil sedge
wait doesnt that mean u can get 100%
it goes up to 96% with perfect idols
and if ur using awakening scarab you only need 50% from idols, other 50% from scarab
brazen vector
old pob didnt have woke minion damage in it yet x3
tranquil sedge
<@181747481565069312> I did your suggested changes and went up by 25% dps, ty ag...
note that a lot of ur dps is reliant on having ele weak curse up so make sure big single mobs are cursed
stuck phoenix
And you could still go for Veiled chaos orb from there, just risk getting bad prefixes and settling. If you can afford it, you can do Veiled ex (bench, unveil), bench all attributes again, and then influenced ex
Ofc starting with what I said earlier
frigid wedge
it goes up to 96% with perfect idols
and if ur using awakening scarab you only ...
how much would making the set suck tho
stuck phoenix
And you could still go for Veiled chaos orb from there, just risk getting bad pr...
@quasi willow
stuck phoenix
<:bruh:901198899832815637>
Did you read its page
frigid wedge
all of those look like ring mods
quasi willow
<@1113632795013697606>
Im still absorbing what's been said 5 minutes ago
appreciate all the help ty
finite quail
all of those look like ring mods
It does not generate on rings, already checked poedb.tw
frigid wedge
question, why u need this synth
stuck phoenix
It is the frenzy charge wiki page
No
frigid wedge
maybe body armour rho
finite quail
question, why u need this synth
Irrelevant
frigid wedge
bc redeemer frenzy on hit exists on body
plush galleon
anyone else geting adnormally long loading screens this event?
frigid wedge
and a lot of synths match inf mods
finite quail
bc redeemer frenzy on hit exists on body
Redeemer body also means a lot less defences
Cannot do it
split maple
Frenzy on hit timeless jewel trust
stuck phoenix
@finite quail click the link
brazen vector
wish me luck, trying cortex maven witnesed
finite quail
No jewel slots on the tree work for it since it overrides other notables
stuck phoenix
And read its page
tranquil sedge
how much would making the set suck tho
depends, the chance not not wilt is really important
idols with 10% chance to not wilt, and either %inc lifeforce or %dupe lifeforce, go for 2-3d
but 10% wilt on its own is <30c, and mid rolls on the other two mods on their own are like 5c lol
so decide based on recombination odds
finite quail
<@1155307996293898321> click the link
it just leads back to the frenzy charge page
stuck phoenix
Not that fucking link
finite quail
What link then
tranquil sedge
depends, the chance not not wilt is *really* important
idols with 10% chance to...
huh
2-mod idols with 11% wilt are only 4d each
vs 3d for 10%
finite quail
The name doesnt show what the mod rolls on
tranquil sedge
thats actually a good bargain lmao
frigid wedge
Redeemer body also means a lot less defences
i was suggesting that it existed as a body synthh
split maple
Wiki pages for synths are kinda ass yea
finite quail
split maple
Just slap into trade ~impl frenzy hit
stuck phoenix
Ok fair enough, though at that point I'd be skeptical if it rolls at all
finite quail
i was suggesting that it existed as a body synthh
Oh you know what, you're right
tranquil sedge
Wiki pages for synths are kinda ass yea
if you want to see synth implicits use this page instead it seems more useful
https://spidermari.github.io/
finite quail
Synth bodies can roll frenzy on hit
split maple
if you want to see synth implicits use this page instead it seems more useful
ht...
Would still verify on trade
tranquil sedge
for sure
split maple
That site is from like synth league
tranquil sedge
ye its old
finite quail
Sadge tho, I'd lose +1 all max res and 10% phys as fire
Can't do that
Time to look for alternatives
frigid wedge
Synth bodies can roll frenzy on hit
generally the first guess of slot for a synth is always the gear slot where the same mod exists as an influenced mod
split maple
Mark mastery poacher mark etc etc trust
frigid wedge
sword mastery
tranquil sedge
looks like its probably cheaper to make idols if you have gold/dust lying around sans, which is expected, but if you have divs lying around can buy em outright too its not the worst pricing ever
finite quail
Mark mastery poacher mark etc etc trust
Witch
frigid wedge
looks like its probably cheaper to make idols if you have gold/dust lying around...
i have neither
split maple
bow Witch can surely path into ranger
finite quail
lambie what are u doing
Bog shaman burning arrow of vigour blackflame
karmic gust
if you are using bow there is frenzy on hit quiver mod
tranquil sedge
well same advice i gave mika
just start with what u can afford prioritizing wilt chance + extra harvest spawn > lifeforce/dupe lifeforce > map effect
and upgrade as you earn more div/hr
finite quail
finite quail
bow Witch can surely path into ranger
Not possible
The points are stretched too thin
frigid wedge
why do u need frenzies?
finite quail
Olesya's
frigid wedge
right
finite quail
for affliction charges
I could perchance do a frenzy on hit quiver
That'd be a nightmare to craft though
frigid wedge
btw isnt vigour base dmg based on ur life
frigid wedge
or is it dot multi
finite quail
And also its 3-5% frenzy on hit for the quiver mod
frigid wedge
surely widowhail is better than phys bow
karmic gust
yea double dot multi widowhail sounds much better
frigid wedge
ok but u have a 170% phys bow on that pob
so like
why was the default assumption not hail
150*
tranquil sedge
kicking the man while he's down
frigid wedge
its more life and way more multi
frigid wedge
yeah but its a dot based life stacker
finite quail
Brother
Calm the fuck down
And let me test things
I'll get to widowhail when I get to it
frigid wedge
:/
tranquil sedge
have you heard about our lord and saviour widowhail
whole bluff
also p sure they end up running out of sockets
Poe.ninja in combination with market, it looks to me like most whisperers plan to run out of sockets eventually. So even when they have indigon, they can have quite trash jewels. I could see a perfect 4-mod still being very expensive cuz it's so rare, but what I have is a questionable but better than most jewels bricked ex 3-mod. So I guess noone is planning on using something like that one week from now, unless the price is really good
frigid wedge
Poe.ninja in combination with market, it looks to me like most whisperers plan t...
fair point
whole bluff
And since I'm broke and this is valuable, I don't wanna undersell. Rip
brazen vector
cortex viable, but I didnt expect the beams
frigid wedge
or is it mfa that goes foulborn choir
whole bluff
Looks like they go for double dex or double crit multi, % mana, sometimes block
Sometimes attack speed
tranquil sedge
if u use a rare jewel or two on mfa (and your jewel socket pressure is high mind you) the mods for that are dex, hybrid dex, life and mana
whole bluff
Often 3 mod, sometimes 4 mod, CB immunity
tranquil sedge
crit multi is a dead mod for mfa whisperer
whole bluff
Ah, how come? Non crit?
I guess most of the builds I saw were wanders
But maybe they go MFA later
frigid wedge
i need to swap crit on my cpath
whole bluff
It looked like they actually couldn't be bothered doing due diligence on jewels anyway
whole bluff
Which makes sense if they plan on adorned or swapping to something else that uses PT
frigid wedge
and drop avatar of fire to go hatred for brittle
tranquil sedge
But maybe they go MFA later
whisperer has a few builds on it
one is mfa bow build
then u got the kboc wanders
idk if that build is crit? just check that one poe.ninja
if it is then thats a solid jewel yea
ideal 4th mod would, i imagine, be %life
if they're not crit either then its only really a 2mod jewel at that stage :x
at least for 2 those builds
whole bluff
I just alt regaled a 11% global crit multi fracture into 15 dex and 10% mana. Thought it was big. Not selling for 3d
I would think KBoC is crit, but idk
tranquil sedge
just check a few build pobs if they're scaling crit
whole bluff
I'll click kboc indigon whisperer on ninja and look at PT/EO %
46% PT
Can't find EO %, so I'd assume 0%
I need a sale now anyway. I could even drop by an Internet café on lunch to lower my prices so I can finish char after work and start farming
brazen vector
read the second part of the message :>
lucid kiln
you know i cant read
brazen vector
you know i cant read
yea
finite quail
It would be so funny if all my 3 unique rings had like
cannot be inflicted with bleeding, cannot be poisoned and cannot be ignited
ocean field
fellas is there any skill that hits like a large aoe that can be automated
no need to do damage
just to need to hit a large aoe
limpid prairie
Vaal earthquake?
uneven gust
ocean field
Vaal earthquake?
need to be automated or be triggered by cwdt atleast
next pawn
cortex viable, but I didnt expect the beams
wow melted
ocean field
<:UHM:891971918138314753>
??
limpid prairie
need to be automated or be triggered by cwdt atleast
So something that can be triggered by CWDT?
What are the restrictions on that?
ocean field
frigid wedge
fellas is there any skill that hits like a large aoe that can be automated
autoexert with ancom/kaoms command
abberaths hooves
herald of the hive
self shock galvanic field
pulsar dune
bladefall of trarthus
frigid wedge
uh
uneven gust
most things in this game are kickstarts or tap every 4 seconds but theres HOT autobomber
frigid wedge
autoexert gen cry something
uneven gust
cyclone^
frigid wedge
what are we tryna hit to achieve
ocean field
just poison application or culling strike
frigid wedge
right
limpid prairie
I wonder how nova skills interact when triggered with the "can be cast on marked targets" rune graft
frigid wedge
whats the rest of the build
ocean field
fross trickster
frigid wedge
ah
frigid wedge
oh right
ocean field
decided to do this
frigid wedge
cant u just get chance to poison tho
ocean field
yeah
frigid wedge
scene as its already chaos dmg
but if ur fross bf of trarthus is def the best option
frigid wedge
culling strike against marked enemy?
frigid wedge
automation
ocean field
but I already have the balance of terror thingy
frigid wedge
for guard skill
frigid wedge
up to you
u could grab like
frost shield sigil of power and add more dura and aoe
maybe not sigil
bc ur spending es
ocean field
frost shield sigil of power and add more dura and aoe
ah thank you
yeah prolly go add more area
and more duration and have like 2 cwdt
bold scarab
or empower
Weak uwu
frigid wedge
probably
ocean field
btw where to get the culling strike on mark enemy thing
oh wait it is a blight annoint ah
ocean field
bottom right of tree
thanks
but shie
it is too far down
already anointed whispers of doom
frigid wedge
yippee
ocean field
cluster node for culling strike against mf w punishment iirc
yeah
however
I am limited to 2 curses
frigid wedge
what, enfeeble and despair
ocean field
despair and the mark
ocean field
yeah
I guess that better
I do got my lightning warp
ah wait
I can make lightning warp a 4 link
less duration
cull
wind axle
chat, frenzy charges arent very good for fusillade rright
you get too much attack speed and goof the timing
ocean field
yes
ocean field
if you goof the timimg it is gg
frigid wedge
chat, frenzy charges arent very good for fusillade rright
variable attack speed with specific breakpoints isnt ever worth it
wind axle
if you goof the timimg it is gg
yeah i noticed yesterday my shit was doing literal 0 damage
frigid wedge
unless ur unable to hit a breakpoint until that
wind axle
yeah but i think im too close to the breakpoint
frigid wedge
probably
wind axle
so yeah i need to remove all frenzies from it cause i feel my dps is weird
ocean field
yeah i noticed yesterday my shit was doing literal 0 damage
either ensure you can always maintain highest frenzy charge
or u cooked
frigid wedge
the only time i think variable attack speed for a breakpoint setup is ok is for ts lwarp
bc u need 10.1 aps
wind axle
either ensure you can always maintain highest frenzy charge
oh with + min frenzy charges?
frigid wedge
yes
ocean field
oh with + min frenzy charges?
no just ensure it from like gain a charge every 5 secs or smt
wind axle
ah i see
ocean field
oh with + min frenzy charges?
if u can do min charges that is good as well
frigid wedge
u can reduce ur actual attack speed if u get consistent uptime
ocean field
what class are u
wind axle
ohsaabi
ocean field
slayer?
wind axle
oshabi
ocean field
main class
wind axle
also does pob take into account frenzy charges to your dps calc if you have min frenzy charges? or do you need to set them?
frigid wedge
its phrecia
wind axle
oh lol yeah its ranger
bold scarab
What's fast and doesn't need respeccing or regearing ... And league start friendly/ssfable
frigid wedge
kf
bold scarab
Oshabi?
frigid wedge
sure
bold scarab
I guess
wind axle
i started with bows and shit was so good i flied through campaign
and im trash
so im a good example
bold scarab
I might jump back in tomorrow ... I have like 15c but that's about it
brazen vector
chain of command puppeteer is also ssfable until voidforge
wind axle
I might jump back in tomorrow ... I have like 15c but that's about it
get some gear from tree, and ur good
buy some boots and helmet, a bow, you're set
bold scarab
I just say ssfable because I still like buying as little as possible lel
wind axle
oshabi kf has like 2 uniques
bold scarab
buy some boots and helmet, a bow, you're set
I see
whole bluff
Oshabi seems OP in early maps, ngl
wind axle
not hard to get but hard to get good rolls, the bow build i literally raw dogged it and smooth sail campaign
whole bluff
Oshabi just seems so overall strong
frigid wedge
oshabi kf is kinda crazy
wind axle
oath of oaji is one of the most fun nodes
whole bluff
Yup
wind axle
you just adjust your build on the fly
bold scarab
I played kf as elementalist at the start of 3.27 (the real league)
wind axle
its the same build
bold scarab
Different tree pathing tho
wind axle
lolcohol theorycrafted with elementalist kf for phrecia oshabi
bold scarab
Ye Ik
wind axle
bold scarab
I actually followed his guide back then for ele
whole bluff
I would lvl bow into pconc if unsure about wand lvling on ranger
bold scarab
I would lvl bow into pconc if unsure about wand lvling on ranger
I hate swapping ... But ig lvl 30 ish isn't that bad
wind axle
I hate swapping ... But ig lvl 30 ish isn't that bad
tbh bro the bow build is so good and fun (my first time playing bows in this game), you might not even swap
bold scarab
Lol
wind axle
tried and true
bold scarab
Lol
whole bluff
Kinetic Bolt seemed very strong from act 1 zone 2, and can probably carry to KF, but not having witch starting nodes may hurt it a little
bold scarab
Kinetic Bolt seemed very strong from act 1 zone 2, and can probably carry to KF,...
The problem with doing it early is that it's super clunky
You don't have the tools on the tree to smooth it's baseline out
finite quail
Alright, more or less finished the pob, but I'm sure there might be a few things left to look at
bold scarab
Takes like 30-35 levels to get enough points to get the reduced duration wheel and one of the wand wheels
lament scroll
did anyone get dc by server
whole bluff
I guess I rarely hold down attack for long, so clunky KF might not bother me
bold scarab
Or maybe uh
finite quail
@frigid wedge
whole bluff
Just stutter stepping it seemed fine
prisma storm
did anyone get dc by server
yep
frigid wedge
hi lambie
bold scarab
I guess I rarely hold down attack for long, so clunky KF might not bother me
It's fine to press and release ... It's just by default it's kinda oof
frigid wedge
what
frigid wedge
oh nice
bold scarab
Or uh
frigid wedge
is it better to get hunter fire dot over proj spe?
jade flax
anyone else randomly dc when entering a map sometimes?
pulsar dune
emberwake?
bold scarab
What is something good to play on bog witch with all the life passives? And is it ssfable uwu
frigid wedge
But it would be very hard to craft
from memory most of the craft isnt that hard
wind axle
anyone else randomly dc when entering a map sometimes?
not rly like internet dc or game dc?
get kicked out to char select?
jade flax
yup
pulsar dune
you're going to ignite twice with snipe?
frigid wedge
ur gambling on a hunter ex but basically every outcome is sellable other than cold dot
jade flax
okay might have to try
finite quail
you're going to ignite twice with snipe?
I should probably check how long it takes to get full stages
bold scarab
Kinda wanna play bloodmagicy style build before they do the stupid thing and remove the mechanic from the game on the 24th
finite quail
Might not be worth it to do emberwake
rugged hedge
zamn new bug "error league"
wind axle
okay might have to try
ye i was like not DCing but just getting rubber banded 10, 20s back in time at league start a lot
swapped servers, smooth af
jade flax
mine runs fine but occasionally will get booted to title screen with "unexpected disconnect"
jade flax
very true
bold scarab
as bob ross would say
What about the unhappy accidents
jade flax
those are hidden behind bushes/shrubs
wind axle
What about the unhappy accidents
"you have to have a bit of dark so the bright spots stand out 🙂 "
elder marlin
is it just me or is the server crashed?
jade flax
nah you're just too good so they had to handicap you to help the rest of us
lusty forge
i cant teleport in anyhideout i get stuck in loading screen ?
timid scroll
anyone has idol regex?
timid scroll
good mods
finite quail
no
good mods are ambush stuff and explicit modifier effect usually
and harby stuff
idk the rest there's too many
timid scroll
yeah and 15 other things
whole bluff
I sold a 65c idol for 15c yesterday
timid scroll
i dotn want to check each idol one by one when i have over 10 of them each map
native abyss
the horror
whole bluff
Then I crafted a... let's pretend it actually is a 7d cluster to soothe myself
It just isn't selling
wind axle
good mods are ambush stuff and explicit modifier effect usually
TIL ambush = strongbox
whole bluff
I should start doing the waterfall in faustus
finite quail
the what now
bold scarab
"you have to have a bit of dark so the bright spots stand out 🙂 "
Lol
next pawn
finite quail
frigid wedge
winning
drowsy eagle
I miss 3.13 burning arrow
worldly bridge
not bad for start of act 7 and T2 lab done
visual stream
The campaing cost me 7hr and 34m
worldly bridge
The campaing cost me 7hr and 34m
i wish i could play that fast normally lol
visual stream
Kudosh to u who willing to rerun that campaing
worldly bridge
takes me days to get through it because im forced to break my play sessions up on league starts
worldly bridge
Kudosh to u who willing to rerun that campaing
its actually so fun what
its like
a rougelite
i wish we had "solo character found" like last epoch does, JUST so i can do fresh runs over and over when imbored
visual stream
I mean for me the fun is doing maps and farmming stuff getting slow in campaing and dealing with the bunch of hassle boss not even worth it
worldly bridge
i love maps too
i just also happen to find the progression of campaign super satisfying
finite quail
i wish we had "solo character found" like last epoch does, JUST so i can do fres...
wdym
is this not ssf
basically
worldly bridge
no
finite quail
whats the difference
worldly bridge
because if you complete "league wide" mechanics you will not need to repeat them on the next run
like lab
or meta progression
finite quail
that would be bad for poe
worldly bridge
last epoch starts a completely fresh game for solo char found
finite quail
getting ur full ascendancy at lvl 1 is a big no-no
finite quail
I don't think I'm understanding you
finite quail
Can you explain it better
potent harbor
What Surfcaster skill is looking the best with the fishing rod passives?
worldly bridge
if i complete the trials on my FIRST character, my SECOND character will NOT need to complete the trials
potent harbor
I see a lot of people going spark of the nova
worldly bridge
i can just skip them then go do lab when i am at the righ tlevel
scarlet jacinth
Indeed
finite quail
if i complete the trials on my FIRST character, my SECOND character will NOT nee...
okay yeah
worldly bridge
solo character found would require me to DO THE TRIALS
finite quail
okay
worldly bridge
because they are "meta" progression in the league
finite quail
I mean
scarlet jacinth
Sooo
finite quail
if you wanted that
you could just
play in a different version of the league
like ssf
worldly bridge
i can only do that a limited number of times
finite quail
or a private league
worldly bridge
migrating doesnt wipe that progresssion afaik
finite quail
private league
worldly bridge
also priv leagues cost money
fickle glen
Does auto exertion count for that 5 valor? And if yes does it count for each warcry exerted at the same time?
worldly bridge
so no
finite quail
they do?
scarlet jacinth
So there is a problem with not having todo trials? What?!?
worldly bridge
yes?
whole bluff
You can wipe it with "migrate all" afaik?
finite quail
I thought they didnt if it was for yourself
worldly bridge
thats news to me
stone wing
Can you explain it better
Porkie porkie
worldly bridge
i thought all priv leagues were paid
whole bluff
Migrating every char wont do it, but migrate all migrates atlas
worldly bridge
So there is a problem with not having todo trials? What?!?
nah like, i just want everything fresh idk
finite quail
Ah it costs 120 points
worldly bridge
idk how to explain it
just give me a league where the game is sanctum
but without the shitty parts of sanctum
rouglite
brazen vector
Porkie porkie
TRI🅱️S
native abyss
auuuuugh
worldly bridge
i want rougelite poe
native abyss
whole bluff
I made it to 3rd boss in sanctum yesterday, then she one shot me 😭
worldly bridge
ooooff
whole bluff
I had like 120 inspiration
finite quail
easy league
whole bluff
Can't see shit with VD
native abyss
whole bluff
Por que
potent harbor
Any cool fishing rod surfcaster builds popped up?
scarlet jacinth
nah like, i just want everything fresh idk
Then you just idk do the trials even tho you don't need to. For the "complete immersion"
worldly bridge
Thats fair actually
scarlet jacinth
Plenty of people do strange ssf runs with self imposed rules, just need to stick to em
finite quail
Any cool fishing rod surfcaster builds popped up?
pick a lightning skill and run with it
It will do just fine
heady cliff
pick a lightning skill and run with it
dont forget to add herald of ice
frigid wedge
7L herald of ice
heady cliff
1L fine, chain explosions are so satisfying
frigid wedge
ppl were crafting 7L helmets for it last phrecia
heady cliff
you could, yeah
potent harbor
pick a lightning skill and run with it
Thats the vibe I'm getting, along with frostblink of wintry blast
whole bluff
The surfcaster node is more meme now than ever, since you can put it on a runegraft imo
It's a budget option for sure, but even runegraft isn't considered super strong afaik
Though for runegraft, I'm just paraphrasing
hexed mountain
Surf might still be a good user because of the 60% more cast speed
brazen vector
oh poop
hexed mountain
I could see aristocrat being good on it due to very high global inc damage for herald of ice map clear fun
naive stirrup
what does 20% quality means?
brazen vector
what does 20% quality means?
base stats have been increased by 20%
naive stirrup
hmmm okie tysm
whole bluff
what does 20% quality means?
Qualität
whole bluff
Zusammenhalten
Stabil is the same in Swedish though
I wonder what scandinavian languages are like for non-speakers
wind axle
base stats have been increased by 20%
bro i cant believe i didnt know this
i thought higher ilvl items would have more effective quality 🤦♂️
gentle chasm
hmmm okie tysm
only armor is increased, not all stats
wind axle
20% increase makes so much sense
wind axle
I wonder what scandinavian languages are like for non-speakers
random gibberish and im portuguese
wind axle
They changed it to more lately, but yeah it improves either defences or dmg
ah ok ok. i just thought it was some arbitrary increase that was more effective the better the item
never like stopped to think "maybe it increases by the % quality" lol
not the sharpest tool in the shed, im not
whole bluff
Take items dmg or defences without quality, multiply by (100%+quality%), concatenate
Only works like that for armor and weapons. Jewellery has specific quality types for different affixes instead
wind axle
Only works like that for armor and weapons. Jewellery has specific quality types...
yeah that i know with the catalysts
whole bluff
Also, just to mess with people I suppose, added flat phys is affected by generic (weapon) quality, added ES is affected by generic (armour) quality even if it's not an ES base, but flat non-phys dmg, even though listed above affixes in the item-specific layout and even if implicit, are not affected by generic quality
So like generic weapon quality is local more phys. Generic armour quality is local more defences. Always
Also generic quality just modifies the stats up top, even if one of the affixes down below is affected
Visually
It's kinda messy, but not. But it could use a streamline
sour wadi
only armor is increased, not all stats
gentle chasm
soft perch
whole bluff
Intensify it
uneven compass
Bro I got one fisherman in kingsmarch what’s the use of him
whole bluff
Maybe he can get fish for you in shipping
finite quail
Bro I got one fisherman in kingsmarch what’s the use of him
nothing
its just a running joke ingame
scarlet jacinth
Kill him for his fishing rod duh
uneven compass
Sadge I thought he gives a chance for fishing rods yeah exactly lol
lucid gale
uneven compass
Does it work if I put him anywhere? Farming or mining
brazen vector
compact bronze
does herald of thunder hit all enemies in surrounding or just an X number of enemies?
past mantle
Just hits one enemy per proc.
meager pagoda
whats the droprate of foulborn unnatural instinct? and whats the best way to optimize tree for it?
brazen vector
50/50
scarlet jacinth
In theory I'd have to say less attribute of all and jewels and chance for double foulborn and general foulborn chance
Ur after these i presume?
meager pagoda
Ur after these i presume?
yeah, except the single foulborn version, the one thats 280 divs in league.
scarlet jacinth
Then drop the chance for double foulborn
meager pagoda
i want to farm that one, or farm the divs for it anyway, seems like the faster way.
scarlet jacinth
That one is 100~ divs
meager pagoda
really?
scarlet jacinth
Cheapest is 100div, the rest 120+
meager pagoda
oh nice, thats a lot more achieveable! only 1 week of farming rather than 3
scarlet jacinth
I just so happened to drop that one yesterday haha
meager pagoda
but you're in phrecia right? i have 200c in phrecia if you want lmao
scarlet jacinth
Haha yea I'm in phrecia
meager pagoda
just change the c to d in your mind
scarlet jacinth
Mmhm sure sure. I'm probably selling it so i can swap to mfa
ocean field
what does that mean
frigid wedge
<@617762343962673163> i saw you!
cool
meager pagoda
sans has FANS. and i have COMPETITION it looks like.
scarlet jacinth
Ow damn ur right, it looked like passive voices chart of some kind
frigid wedge
lovely
frigid wedge
what does that mean
its s recomb chart
meager pagoda
@scarlet jacinth fite you for the honor of being sans's #1 fan?
ocean field
its s recomb chart
yeah what does the thing in red box mean
frigid wedge
<@214795010938241025> fite you for the honor of being sans's #1 fan?
do whatever you want, ill respond later
ocean field
and also is it better to only have the prefix when recombing to get to 3 prefixes or have the suffix as well
brazen vector
i dont think i deserve to even have a fan rn tho
You do
meager pagoda
i dont think i deserve to even have a fan rn tho
whats up man? you okay?
ocean field
and also is it better to only have the prefix when recombing to get to 3 prefixe...
gng help me with this rn
frigid wedge
dw
meager pagoda
come lets smash some maps together
frigid wedge
not on
wind axle
yo chat whats this effective crit chance?
is this like when i ask her a question and she says "no" but really she means "yes"?
frigid wedge
not having 100% accuracy changes how crit rolls
wind axle
oh shit that makes sense
scarlet jacinth
If you miss 20% of your hits you lose out on 20% of the crits resulting in an effective crit thats lower
wind axle
so it's like effective crit chacne cause some % of my hits is missing which means they wont crit
yeah that is very reasonable
pulsar dune
In order for a crit to actually crit, it has to win an accuracy roll a second time
frigid wedge
crits also roll for accuracy a second time
wind axle
is this like when i ask her a question and she says "no" but really she means "y...
maybe it was me and not her 😭
wind axle
crits also roll for accuracy a second time
and if it's lucky do they roll 3 times?
scarlet jacinth
She says no but really means yes, even tho you forgot to ask in the first place
frigid wedge
no
wind axle
She says no but really means yes, even tho you forgot to ask in the first place
😂 story of my life
scarlet jacinth
That may be dementia
frigid wedge
😂 story of my life
good for you
scarlet jacinth
Nah dense fossils hold value.. and well...
frigid wedge
im definitely more dense
wind axle
Nah dense fossils hold value.. and well...
yooooo
scarlet jacinth
Set yourself up for that one
wind axle
im definitely more dense
aye man arent the most valuable metals the densest?
scarlet jacinth
He'll forget about it anyways
frigid wedge
aye man arent the most valuable metals the densest?
not when theyre as reactive as i am
wind axle
damn now we're talking
frigid wedge
how
wind axle
i have no idea tbh
frigid wedge
ok
wind axle
i had another question about kf but i need an expert
scarlet jacinth
Dmg = good and try to keep your health above 0
tranquil sedge
ask anyway and one will show up
even if one doesn't show up just have someone give a confidently incorrect answer
it will summon someone desperate to tell them they're wrong with the right answer
wind axle
i used the calculator for kinetic fusillade projectiles / attack speed uptime. and it says im in the green but im 99% sure im losing projectiles in game
frigid wedge
it will summon someone desperate to tell them they're wrong with the right answe...
if only that worked for emotional matters
tranquil sedge
i used the calculator for kinetic fusillade projectiles / attack speed uptime. a...
did u double check all the info to fill in the calc
and also ensure u have all configs in pob set up correctly?
finite quail
tranquil sedge
kinetic fusillade
wind axle
did u double check all the info to fill in the calc
yes. the only thing that is confusing is the action speed modifier which doesnt pop up on my pob which i assume its because its default 1.00
ornate patrol
who got optimized genesis tree pic?
tranquil sedge
yes. the only thing that is confusing is the action speed modifier which doesnt ...
ye if it doesn't show up its a default 1
wind axle
i might come back
please do i already miss u
tranquil sedge
and also ensure u have all configs in pob set up correctly?
^ is it 1:1 with real game?
frigid wedge
please do i already miss u
no u don't
final owl
i used the calculator for kinetic fusillade projectiles / attack speed uptime. a...
is your attack speed definitely only 57? and in general, sure you copied the right numbers across?
wind axle
and also ensure u have all configs in pob set up correctly?
charges, buffs, etc?
ornate patrol
there isnt one
there are doe
wind axle
is your attack speed definitely only 57? and in general, sure you copied the rig...
i spent like 3h yesterday checking this, im pretty sure i did i double and quadruple checked (i never triple check)
scarlet jacinth
There is a kf calculator!! We are heading into wardloop silly territory
finite quail
there are doe
pick what you want bro
wind axle
There is a kf calculator!! We are heading into wardloop silly territory
this shit's way too jank for me im :waytoodank: ing over here
tranquil sedge
There is a kf calculator!! We are heading into wardloop silly territory
makes you think about the special kind of mind that enjoys poe
final owl
yeah. it helps you figure out if you need to drop some attack speed to laz0r properly though.
tranquil sedge
this game is good dammit
wind axle
is your attack speed definitely only 57? and in general, sure you copied the rig...
definitely, i removed most of it cause i couldnt max out reduced effect duration
ornate patrol
pick what you want bro
theres definite best trees for currency and uniques, the others are "pick what you want"
final owl
how many projectiles?
tranquil sedge
send a link to your pob
wind axle
5
wind axle
send a link to your pob
huh
final owl
oh only 5. i dunno then honestl
final owl
yeah press the buttan
tranquil sedge
dood its my first time
we will excuse the use of maxroll this time
wind axle
im gonna get so fucking clowned on
wind axle
we will excuse the use of maxroll this time
just clicked the ting on pob
wheres pobb link
scarlet jacinth
this shit's way too jank for me im :waytoodank: ing over here
This is still within the normal realm..
wind axle
reading is hard
nah im regarded nvm
for context i spent hours in hideout yesterday and every time i held KF i was sure i was losing 2 projs
i only saw 3 consistently shooting off instead of 5
tranquil sedge
are you testing this in hideout
final owl
it doesn't look like you should have anywhere near enough APS to worry about losing proj tbh
wind axle
so its just placebo fucking me up
final owl
yeah maybe man idk. if the tool is also telling you the thing
wind axle
it doesn't look like you should have anywhere near enough APS to worry about los...
aka i have enough reduced skill effect duration?
final owl
something else is the problem if there is one
wind axle
something else is the problem if there is one
it's the keyboard actuator that's the problem, 100%
final owl
aka i have enough reduced skill effect duration?
well that part is hard to tell. what reduced items do you have?
tranquil sedge
wind axle
wtf
final owl
oh there you go. get srev'd
fierce rock
is there a way to clear mao kun without looking like an idiot?
tranquil sedge
lmao
if you find out, let me know
i just sweep the map sloooowly back and forth line by line until i reach the start
hate that stupid thing
scarlet jacinth
Let me introduce you into phd levels of poe playing @wind axle
final owl
defintitely lose proj to accel shrine :I