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modern zinc
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unknown so far but should be back soon

past mantle
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You don't want to scale proj for it since pods do the damage and you don't get extra proj for those.

storm fern
heady cliff
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faustus works for some reason

ebon tendon
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er

devout widget
past mantle
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As a support proj speed isn't going to do anything for you really.

devout widget
past mantle
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That one works fine since it's all bow damage, but not the support since you want more damage from support gems.

lilac parcel
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wtf is wrong with this game ffs

devout widget
stoic horizon
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read what it does

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or just let pob tell you

past mantle
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Viscious proj is p good.

pastel crystal
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deadge trade died

karmic gust
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you dont rly want more

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because it also fucks up pod positioning

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assuming its normal SA and not shitty SA (e.g sa of menace)

somber sundial
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I challenge someone to convince me that elemental hit is a better skill than wildstrike or wild-strike of extremes

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Tell me how fire ele hit could possibly touch wildstrike

karmic gust
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well wildstrike is dogshit

past mantle
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Huh?

somber sundial
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So is ele hit

past mantle
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Wildstrike?

somber sundial
spice pecan
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elemental hit is the worst skill in the game because of how boring its name is

icy zinc
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forced ssf woohoo

stoic horizon
past mantle
stoic horizon
past mantle
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Is this 3.12 bows? MONKA

somber sundial
icy zinc
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mamba accuracy stackers where

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glorp )))

somber sundial
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And it confuses me because

stoic horizon
somber sundial
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If you’re gonna use a prismatic skill and waste 2 jewel slots

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Like, why wouldn’t you use wildstrike

devout widget
stoic horizon
past mantle
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Did you click ele hit of the spectrum?

somber sundial
past mantle
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You did click ele hit of the spectrum.

somber sundial
toxic whale
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is the trade down ?

past mantle
past mantle
devout widget
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oh so 2.27x1 projectile speed means i have 227% increased Projectile speed?

somber sundial
past mantle
somber sundial
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I thought it wasn’t a strike skill

stoic horizon
somber sundial
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My bad

past mantle
somber sundial
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So that’s why people are playing it

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Okay

stoic current
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is the trade system down for anyone else? I keep getting a timeout error

stoic horizon
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you still dont really know why but yeah

past mantle
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They're playing it because it's strong lmao.

somber sundial
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but

past mantle
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But what.

somber sundial
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This is so strange

past mantle
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Why?

somber sundial
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Surfcaster, fire ele hit

stoic horizon
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unlike wild strike it can abuse conversions

somber sundial
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I don’t get it

viscid steeple
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Yo guys, is the trade website offline for you too?

stoic horizon
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they play cold

somber sundial
icy zinc
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i had this saved up...

somber sundial
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Well yeah

icy zinc
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(yesterday)

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😔

hollow iris
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kinda struggling with currency any suggestions?

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in phrecia

timber depot
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farm maps

somber sundial
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I feel so dumb rn

karmic gust
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cold on surfcaster is barely better than just doing tri ele hit, probs not even better at all really

graceful nymph
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is the trade site unavailable for everybody rn?

past mantle
somber sundial
karmic gust
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but yea they buffedthe aoe on ele hit so now its pretty fat before it had terrible clear

past mantle
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Because fire is the 1st of the 3 hits.

somber sundial
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Why they using jewels to cut off the cold and lightning

past mantle
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In pob.

viscid steeple
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Ok so it's not only for me

tough musk
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is the website down?

past mantle
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This converts their lighting to cold, this means they don't get the downside of this.

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But get the upside of not choosing lightning.

somber sundial
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Ah

karmic gust
somber sundial
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So they do force conversion

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I see

karmic gust
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that is how conversion works

somber sundial
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I see them using Foulborn heatshiver

karmic gust
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and that is why the line is there

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otherwise aof ele hit would be broken

somber sundial
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I see

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Now it makes sense

past mantle
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PoB seems to agree.

karmic gust
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yea its just normal conversion rules

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just like when converting phys to ele the phys increases apply

scarlet jacinth
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The hell trade site down for maintenance

karmic gust
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(and so do phys decreases)

stoic horizon
past mantle
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I don't think this is much better than just a regular tri hit ele in any way.

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Funny.

karmic gust
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yea thats what im saying

past mantle
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Guess it doesn't have the marginal ramp.

stoic horizon
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it didnt have the penalty for one league

somber sundial
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I forgot how advantageous conversion damage is

karmic gust
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especially because regular tri ele hit gets interrogation and trinity

past mantle
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Gross.

somber sundial
past mantle
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With hues in the game?

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Double gross.

somber sundial
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Skitta bots and interrogation and taming

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Delicious

past mantle
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Just use a hue. MONKA

icy zinc
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trade poke, poke wake up trade

past mantle
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Use two if you gotta.

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Use three if you gotta even.

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Don't use three, just use Taming.

karmic gust
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i mean interrogation is just better as it doesnt cost you ring slot or anything else really as you have skitters for rest

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only costs you ignite

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and you can even get ignite via minion memes

somber sundial
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5 ele ailments vs 3

past mantle
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Ignite and shock value.

heady cliff
somber sundial
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Sap, brittle and scorch >

past mantle
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I played Warden and got the benefit of every single ailment.

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That was fun.

somber sundial
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Brittle ez crit cap

visual stream
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1 more level till 90

past mantle
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This was very funny.

visual stream
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man i really dont want rerun that campaing

karmic gust
ashen scroll
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its just me or trade dont load?

karmic gust
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and you also lose boot slot

misty wren
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does anyone have the discord of ckaiba?

karmic gust
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yea but you are playing warden and then you are playing warden

past mantle
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Luv me warden.

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Simple as, innit.

pseudo holly
past mantle
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Wait mb, this was the older version.

stoic horizon
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man solving es recovery on mines is annoying af

past mantle
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That was it.

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Every ailment on a build is very funny.

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Especially when you see those 30% scorches and 50% shocks on ubers. Supernut

sonic jolt
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shit, sites is down

past mantle
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I did miss the lesson of the seasons since it's such nice defence.

lethal bloom
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can s1 perhaps help me?
ive been playing poe1 for the first time 1 ish month ago in for 2-3 weeks im having INSANE lag spikes

karmic gust
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its only good when you already have a lot of mitigation, so 90% res and endus at least ideally

lethal bloom
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ESPECIALLY if i join others for maps

karmic gust
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and thats kinda pain to get on warden

civic charm
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Are Alva temples in demand rn?

karmic gust
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arent they always in demand for double corrupts

civic charm
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Trying to decide if it's worth running Alva and making temples

visual stream
past mantle
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I did want end charges but defence felt good already.

civic charm
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I just hit red maps and am trying to find a strat to run

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I got 1d to my name

past mantle
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You can disable and enable barkskin to start at 0 bark for bosses and that means you're going to be at like 60% suppress effect during those if not more.

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Very funny.

icy zinc
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trade is up

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uuuuuuuuup

past mantle
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We up.

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Time to finish buying 5c jewels.

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Wonder if Kitava's teachings is gonna be enough for mana sustain.

lament scroll
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can anyone help w maven clear, asia server

icy zinc
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i dont deal with minors

eternal dawn
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what exactly does it mean by recouped as

jade tapir
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Hello 😆😆😆😆. DMS open 🥰🥰🥵

thin leaf
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Why does ele hit sometimes do 0 dmg?
I got both jewel, green and blue one.

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also cant evade

kindred silo
stoic horizon
stoic horizon
icy zinc
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zero damage (didn't crit)

past mantle
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Is it a rare with block?

stoic horizon
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i know what the issue is i just want them to learn to read

wind axle
pulsar dune
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Recoup can overlap without limits,~~ but is removed when you hit full life~~ and isn't removed upon filling the relevant resource

pulsar dune
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Yea

wind axle
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interesting

thin leaf
whole bluff
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How does recoup work with petrified blood?

jade tapir
pulsar dune
past mantle
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Or full mana or full es.

wind axle
pulsar dune
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Oh true, my bad

vivid matrix
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didnt the patchnotes said there is no releft map ???

stoic horizon
wind axle
whole bluff
past mantle
thin leaf
vivid matrix
wind axle
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😂

wind axle
whole bluff
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More for the entire deal, like their bio

pulsar dune
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The random extra mods are never reflect, but reflect is in the game.

vivid matrix
wind axle
past mantle
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Petrified and recoup are a very goodge combo.

wind axle
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now a question, is recoup % additive?

past mantle
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Yes.

wind axle
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if i have 2 10% recoup do i get 20?

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oh damn

past mantle
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Yes.

wind axle
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so u get 100% or more and ur immortal?

daring vigil
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don't ctrl + click on kirac, it opens atlas passives and you have to close the game to close the atlas passive screen

past mantle
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If you can survive for 4 seconds while it ticks down.

pulsar dune
wind axle
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yeah

wind axle
past mantle
past mantle
wind axle
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ohhh

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damn

past mantle
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There's like 2 sources of that and you have to seek those out.

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Recoup is strong but limited because it is strong.

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Getting anything above like 30% passively is very difficult.

pulsar dune
# eternal dawn that seems pretty good

Usually the issue is that you kinda need to recover more than the damage you're taking to not die, and hitting 100% recoup is pretty tough, and being reliant on taking damage means you can probably just leech instead for 1 passive. Usually I wouldn't bother with recoup unless there is some further synergy (e.g. self damage)

wind axle
past mantle
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Instead of getting it on uniques or badly placed nodes on the tree.

sleek barn
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stasis prison is funny

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but you can get recoup on jewels and rings

past mantle
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It's also dependent on damage and not damage to life. So if you run something like corrupted soul which splits 50% damage to life and 50% to shield, you're getting double the effective recoup to life essentially.

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It has a lot of very good synergies.

karmic gust
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issue with recoup on corrupted soul builds is that recovering life is not hard but es is

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for hybrid setups usually

past mantle
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I was an aegis gamer.

pulsar dune
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Isn't aegis an anti-synergy outside of glancing blows?

sly basalt
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Guys, i think the idol system would be much better if we could socket them into a tree, like tree stones

karmic gust
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yea with aegis you would rather not have corrupted soul

sleek barn
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im doing heartbound loop zombies but i can't figure out a better alternative to maligaros lens necromantic aegis

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its kinda driving me crazy

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i can't find some source of recovery for this looper

spice pecan
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do you have life recoup

sleek barn
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yes

pulsar dune
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Yea, I'll probably rework my POB to be life rather than hybrid due to lens necroaegis (especially since I'm using Sirus belt instead of corrupted soul).

sleek barn
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it just feels very shit rn

past mantle
sly basalt
pulsar dune
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Makes sense

sly basalt
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Jokes aside, I love the atlas tree as it is, I don't like the idols

past mantle
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I also remember doing some funky stuff with Burden of Truth and the mastery that gives you 30% of chaos does not bypass es.

tranquil umbra
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idols are very funny because I can randomly drop shit that is worth 5d

past mantle
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For enabling low life.

eternal dawn
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really nice

past mantle
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33% of non chaos bypasses ES and 37% of chaos bypasses ES meant that I could go petrified blood and like 34% recoup to effectively have 100% recoup. Felt pretty goodge with petrified. YEPPERS

clear garden
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As cracked as idols are for lategame, any recommendations for early idols to make currency while still progressing through yellow and red maps?

karmic gust
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because the system we had before sucked

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:d

sly basalt
past mantle
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As with rollable watchtones.

sly basalt
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so if you are poor, you can't do them

past mantle
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Atlas jewels would be fun.

karmic gust
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i only miss the + area level watchstones i think they should bring those back

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the rollable shit was dumb on the conq zones

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current voidstones are kinda waste of slot on atlas

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e.g its just boolean if you have them or not

past mantle
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Okay I am tired of shield charging, I need to get a minion damage sword instead.

karmic gust
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so unique voidstones with +level would b nice

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tier 21 maps Pogott

sly basalt
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they are a basic step of farming, they should not be gatekeeped by money

sleek barn
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i think im going away from heartbound loop

karmic gust
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it could just be uber drop or whatever, +level rfom each uber

sleek barn
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tired of it being so shit

karmic gust
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but its like slottable slot that you never do anything with really

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so it just feels weird

hard oar
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Any of the discord mods around?

stoic horizon
unique kraken
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Hi gang, is penance brand of dissipation good enough for ultimatum or cws/other bog shaman builds are better?

dusky void
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does BV with sacrifice snapshot the first time you use youre life and as long as you keep at least 1 stack do you have the snapshotet dmg?

hard oar
stoic horizon
stoic horizon
tender notch
deep jetty
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👨‍🦽

spice pecan
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nice

stoic horizon
sly basalt
deep jetty
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I got baited into respeccing to Elemental Hit and my DPS went down by like 70%

sleek barn
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is this corpse explosion scaled by anything?

sly basalt
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respec back

stoic horizon
deep jetty
stoic horizon
karmic gust
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and aoe

sly basalt
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I already gave away everything, after hitting 90, otherwise i would hooked you up to some orbs

karmic gust
deep jetty
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tru

past mantle
sleek barn
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has no base crit yeah?

past mantle
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Correct.

sleek barn
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too poor to scale uul netol

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i would need phys clusters no?

past mantle
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Yep.

sleek barn
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fuck

past mantle
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I'm going to run 3 for my build.

slim island
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so what the best idol setup for a squishy bow build

past mantle
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But I'm doing deathrattle.

sleek barn
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i'll look into it later

past mantle
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Because cooldowns are for chumps.

elfin spire
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is there a way to get move description of skills if they're out of display?
Can't see level of my vaal skill because text too long for displaying, lmao

spice pecan
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poo2 ass type requirements

whole bluff
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How do I make spellslinger oshabi tanky

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I'm thinking it has to be through a bloodline most likely right?

spice pecan
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my brother in Chris

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you are not making a phrecia ascendancy tanky unless it is named Ancestral Commander

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but i mean, i think the go-to would be a phys+ele reduc breachlord bloodline

whole bluff
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Ancestral Commander can go do his nerfed strike and endurance charge things elsewhere

spice pecan
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but FUCK doing that fight unless you completely overgear it

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and that's without enrage+extra mods

stoic horizon
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ig i only ever fought it overgeared

whole bluff
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I did that fight until I got all challenge requirements in keepers, and then a few extra times

spice pecan
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yeah, I tried to fight it on pohx leaguestart on welfare gear and dude

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no flask charges, tiny arena, constant bullet hell

stoic horizon
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my es never dropped below half and i stood in place through the whole fight

whole bluff
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Did it get some aids stuff from gauntlet?

shrewd fiber
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when do i unlock altars?

spice pecan
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enrage

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and extra area mods should apply to hivebrain area

stoic horizon
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they arent unlocked separately

whole bluff
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Sounds like all you need is dmg

shrewd fiber
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weird, i just did a map and zero spawned all map long

spice pecan
shrewd fiber
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unluck?

stoic horizon
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early on the altars rarely spawn yes

whole bluff
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Or well, proper dmg and welfare defences

spice pecan
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if tides of time is cheap and you can sac your belt slot, it might be an actual consideration idk

shrewd fiber
native token
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soon

shrewd fiber
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or is it map tier

spice pecan
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running out of life flasks is a death sentence without the damage to back it up

whole bluff
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I might go tides either way cuz I like it

spice pecan
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yeah tides is just so comfy either way tbh

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db made fun of me for running it on non-pathfinder

stoic horizon
spice pecan
whole bluff
spice pecan
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duct tape is goated anyways

whole bluff
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Indeed

shrewd fiber
pulsar dune
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Yea

shrewd fiber
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how much dps should i have for the boss

pulsar dune
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Usually quest exarch is pretty easy, I've won that fight on like 300k

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In phrecia, probably triple that

dusky void
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did i snipe the best BV wand in phercia? i paid 50c

stoic horizon
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depends on how reliably you can upkeep the dps and how tanky you are

sacred cedar
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can anyone help with my last two labs ? : )

shrewd fiber
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shrine stacking bow build

shrewd fiber
spice pecan
shrewd fiber
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ty tho

pulsar dune
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IG don't walk close to quest exarch for a bit until shrines stack up

spice pecan
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ah then yeah if you care about pcharges for crit

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then that's pretty fucking dank

stoic horizon
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im at 1 mil pob dps and i havent reached any of the bosses yet bla also pob isnt good at calcing eow shotguns

spice pecan
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i'd snag that even on a regular poison bv just for the aoe tbh

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even tho bv scales rather poorly with it

dusky void
little barn
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Hello guys, does anybody has the 6 link recipe and could 6 link my chest ? i would give a 50 c tip

spice pecan
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i mean at that point you might as well take disciple of the forbidden

shrewd fiber
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do multiple arrows from bows shotgun or nah

pulsar dune
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They dont

stoic horizon
pulsar dune
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Unless you're using one of the few skills that do

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Usually you just get two tornados tho

stoic horizon
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there is no true shotgunning except shrapnel ballista

split maple
dusky void
stoic horizon
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other skills just can "shotgun" via secondary effects

spice pecan
# shrewd fiber do multiple arrows from bows shotgun or nah

multiple projectiles from a single activation of a skill generally do not shotgun unless they either a) have some sort of explode component (like kb against a wall), or b) are one of like 3 skills that inherently shotgun (kbolt of frag LMAO)

spice pecan
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from what i remember on ele and pf

stoic horizon
spice pecan
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oh yeah, sequential hits too

stoic horizon
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like stuff with barrage, ice spear and eow

spice pecan
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barrage support, first and second forms of ice spear, invidiual proj from eye of winter yeah

low sparrow
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is there any benefit to making strongboxes corrupted?

spice pecan
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it's kind of fuzzy as to what shotguns and what doesnt

dusky void
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now i just hope withering presence is dropping in price

pulsar dune
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KBoF and shrapnel ballista are the only "real" shotgun skills

stoic horizon
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i wonder what my true dps is

spice pecan
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and KBoF is unplayable

pulsar dune
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Everything else is cheating in some way

spice pecan
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so shrap ballista is the only playable true shotgunning skill

pulsar dune
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Doesn't KBoF just need nimis

spice pecan
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hell no

stoic horizon
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kbof needs mirrors

spice pecan
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you need like, omega forks and extra proj and you have to find a way to scale the damage

stoic horizon
spice pecan
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because it has no spell damage scaling

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it's melee kbolt without the 257% spell damage as attack

pulsar dune
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It shotguns, so that inherently makes it good

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But yeah, unless you do the weapon swap tech

spice pecan
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yeah, it came out in affliction and did some somewhat unethical things there

pulsar dune
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IDK

spice pecan
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so they nuked it the league after

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kbof is like my #0 favorite skill but yeah

pulsar dune
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+10 proj LOGIN

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Just weapon swap every 5.3s

spice pecan
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as long as you aren't scaling ele off of phys nvm i misread

pulsar dune
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You weapon swap off it

spice pecan
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yeah

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even still, just getting raw damage on kbof is like pulling teeth

stoic horizon
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next league

pulsar dune
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Maybe I'll try to force KBoF next league

stable pecan
pulsar dune
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IDK what I'd do tho

pulsar dune
spice pecan
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||*maximum cost $3 USD||

split maple
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edited 🤦‍♂️

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i rly wanted to cook jk

spice pecan
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i typed the spoiler before i realized i should make a stipulation

lilac parcel
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where could i price check something ?

spice pecan
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awakened poe trade

lilac parcel
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not working for what i have

stoic horizon
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press /

split maple
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what sorta legacy?

lilac parcel
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no

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i made this i want to sell it

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dont know how much to ask

spice pecan
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im not sure that's even good

split maple
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it sure looks fancy but rly idk yea ^

spice pecan
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like, all of those mods are kind of dead besides maybe es on kill

stoic horizon
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isnt this just worse diallas

spice pecan
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it is a worse dialla's, yes

civic charm
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I wanted to ask why would you want thst

dense rock
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minion reflect is nice to have but thats about it 😄

lilac parcel
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worse diala ?

stoic horizon
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diallas malefaction

spice pecan
civic charm
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It's a bit all over the place.

lilac parcel
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:))

spice pecan
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like you just run some combination of red/green sockets in a diallas

lilac parcel
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IT IS :))

spice pecan
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yeah sadly

lilac parcel
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i spent around 200 divs to make it

spice pecan
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you what

sacred cedar
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uberlab carry anyone? please ❤️

lilac parcel
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i spent over 200 divines to make this

split maple
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standard divs or real divs?

spice pecan
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uh

lilac parcel
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standard divines

spice pecan
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even standard divines are way too much

dense rock
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just spammed 200divs worth of chaos orbs on it and went with whatever was left at the end? 😄

finite quail
spice pecan
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i wouldn't pay even a divine for a chest like that

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imma be real with you

spice pecan
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in std or league

pulsar dune
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Wow there really isn't anything clever to do to get wand projectiles

finite quail
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are you telling me you just

hard oar
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will I retain the gem I wanted to transfigure, or do I lose the gem if I cancel now?

finite quail
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spammed chaos on it?

lilac parcel
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i did it for a specific hero

spice pecan
dense rock
stoic horizon
spice pecan
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and maybe some res

lilac parcel
finite quail
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not here

pulsar dune
lilac parcel
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the ideea is to farm only with rf and quantity support

dense rock
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wouldnt it just be better to have something like flametrap on the chest and run a RF helm? 😄

heady cliff
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3 mod conqs with strongboxes are damn expensive

spice pecan
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i mean a dialla's would get you +2 level or +30 qual on quant supp

heady cliff
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lol "no results found"

spice pecan
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wait

stoic horizon
spice pecan
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you aren't even using quant supp on chest? or maybe pob isnt showing it

heady cliff
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ofc you can

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8% boxes (not perfect)/4% mod/2% mod is 120 div

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why do i even farm stuff, crafting idols is profit

lilac parcel
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have to buy it

sick raft
#

Hello all, long time player considering a return to PoE. One thing that made me stop playing was when I learnt about some items (jewels that affect a given radius for instance) could double our DPS by themselves, which demotivated me to keep playing my favorite mode (SSF hardcore). Is it still an issue ?

spice pecan
#

i mean, radius jewels are still incredibly good in a lot of situations yes

stoic horizon
#

💀

spice pecan
#

they're not hard to get unless you're minmaxing tho

finite quail
pulsar dune
#

Yeah, there are still expensive rare items that have powerful effects

finite quail
#

You're asking an extremely broad question

split maple
#

depends on what radius jewel

#

like legion ones are easy

modest tiger
#

which one is better?

pulsar dune
#

If you mean threshold jewels, those are gone, however

finite quail
#

But for the most part, yes, if you make your build the right way, some jewels can increase your dps a lot

split maple
#

global drop ones are easy this league

#

impossible escape in hcssf sounds fun

finite quail
visual stream
#

Finaly i reaches 90

wind axle
#

its also only 8 res

modest tiger
spice pecan
#

if you need that R-R-R then yeah sure use it

bronze falcon
#

I made it through campaign on a 3-link

finite quail
visual stream
finite quail
#

But almost always resistances are more important

#

Since damage is almost never an issue early on

#

If you know how to play

wind axle
finite quail
shrewd fiber
sick raft
#

My point was... if I try to think about builds, and during the run I adapt my build depending on what I find in the way, I don't like the feeling of "if I found that one extremely rare item, my DPS would go x10", which I already saw happen with many people. This is not a good build feeling in my opinion

visual stream
#

But man fighting void stone boss this event is a pain in the ass

wind axle
split maple
finite quail
#

Yes, there are many many items which if you got your hands on, would improve your build a TON

stoic horizon
finite quail
#

on almost every build

#

This has ALWAYS been a thing

split maple
#

like hard to find upgrade that is bigger than 20-30% usually

spice pecan
finite quail
#

"If I could have the UNDISPUTED BEST AXE IN THE GAME my build would be 10x better and now I don't wanna play"

#

Thats basically what you're saying

sick raft
#

So what you're saying is that I can beat uber bosses just with regular items anyone can find in any run, as long as the build is very good ?

finite quail
#

Brother arpgs always have insanely good items

pulsar dune
#

Oh the actual difficulty of the game is not real

stoic horizon
#

"i dont want to earn money because millionaires exist" bla

finite quail
#

The good thing in poe is that if you choose a simple build, you can usually get around with whatever you find

split maple
spice pecan
#

nah, you can uber on some scuffed ass gear

finite quail
#

Pinnacles and t16s and juiced content? Sure, depends on the build

split maple
#

Just pick good starter

spice pecan
#

if you know what you're doing

pulsar dune
#

HCSSF is harder since you can't just scam Ubers, but even then, until they nerf woespike, shouldn't be too bad

finite quail
spice pecan
#

not if you play slams

finite quail
#

But I'm guessing he's not at that level

stoic horizon
#

ppl do kill ubers in hcssf if thats what you are asking

bronze falcon
#

COME ON AND SLAM

pulsar dune
#

I'd recommend practicing Ubers on softcore tho

#

They are actually scary

#

If you don't know mechanics

visual stream
#

Play with totem also

finite quail
#

COME ON AND STRIKE

#

AND WELCOME TO THE... jike?

sick raft
sacred cedar
#

anyone got an uberlab carry in them please? ❤️

visual stream
#

Its easier to learn move when u dont have to dps and run for ur life at the same times

finite quail
pulsar dune
#

Like, Jung was blowing up Uber eater with a zHP miner in hardcore, but that's also Jung

finite quail
#

its a service ❤️

pulsar dune
#

You aren't Jungroan

finite quail
#

and this discord does not offer services ❤️

visual stream
#

Izaro with enrgae with scuff gear is quite pain in the ass

stoic horizon
#

get better gear then

bronze falcon
#

He certainly keeps you on your toes.

arctic tundra
#

whats the best port/materials to ship to for runegrafts?

#

zanth to kalguur?

visual stream
#

Kalguur iircc

bronze falcon
#

Izaro clapped me with 1HP left on the third encounter. Embarassing

visual stream
#

I got one shot with his jump

bronze falcon
#

skill issue for sure

sick raft
#

So, what do you think is the best way to get good gear ? I'm hearing a lot of things about recombinators

wind axle
lean urchin
#

tree

visual stream
#

U pick it up on the ground

wind axle
#

which ive heard through the grapevine is a slow and insidious killer

bronze falcon
#

Best way? Buy good gear.

wind axle
#

it's a scam

bronze falcon
#

It's the only deterministic way of getting what you want.

pulsar dune
#

Every single thing you do in the game can drop gear

wind axle
#

actual rugpull

visual stream
#

I still using my scuff wand from campaing

lilac parcel
#

i bought it

visual stream
pulsar dune
#

You have to do the ones that drop the gear you want

lilac parcel
wind axle
#

everyone that talks good about recomb has stakes in it, it's like a pyramid scheme

visual stream
#

Recomb good when u have spare dust and gold

lilac parcel
pulsar dune
#

Or possibly items you can leverage into good gear

lilac parcel
#

this fully recomb

wind axle
#

he's a stakeholder in recomb enterprises

#

do not fall for his scams

lilac parcel
#

:))

wind axle
#

you will be POOR AND HOMELESS if you try using recomb

lilac parcel
#

one day of alteration spam

#

yesterday

visual stream
#

Idk most of the times when league start my gear is from the ground

#

Just id and pray

wind axle
pulsar dune
#

Yeah ground gear is crazy

visual stream
#

Some times rng just smile at u and u got triple minions rings

sick raft
#

So now, tree is the way to go for the best gear in the game

lilac parcel
#

how do i check if i do

#

i did buy tabs yes

wind axle
#

no clue tbh i only bought stash tabs

lilac parcel
#

me also

#

and only on discount

wind axle
#

so im just cursed on the recomb

stoic horizon
visual stream
#

For now sure tree is good when its giving out alot of decent gear

shrewd fiber
#

what are the pros and cons of elemental hit of the spectrum vs lightning arrow for bow buids? seems like theyre interchangable

pulsar dune
lilac parcel
wind axle
#

im so unlucky i poof items on the unpoofable recomb 😂😂

lilac parcel
split maple
wind axle
lilac parcel
#

?

pulsar dune
bronze falcon
#

tree is a punk. Hasn't dropped anything good all league and it's been 3 days!

shrewd fiber
wind axle
tranquil umbra
split maple
#

That's a lot of lab

lilac parcel
#

this is recomb also

stoic horizon
shrewd fiber
visual stream
#

Man i wish they make in the event u dont need to rerun the whole campaing

wind axle
visual stream
#

The league already short enought

pulsar dune
wind axle
#

you're gonna do sum with that suf cant be changed right

sick raft
#

Changing the question, is there a consensus that the tree can easily carry until t16 maps ?

lilac parcel
split maple
#

Tree carries hard as fuck

visual stream
#

Carry early white and yellow sure

#

But t16

split maple
#

Carries t17 on slammers and kboc

visual stream
#

Kinda need abit more upgrade

stoic horizon
#

t16 too

split maple
#

Idk other builds

wind axle
lilac parcel
#

in keepers i did this

pulsar dune
#

T16 probably requires something vaguely meta-adjacent

#

If you want just tree

wind axle
wind axle
#

i thought max was 6 afixes 😂

wind axle
# lilac parcel

you locked suffixes so only prefixes get their values rerolled?

sick raft
lilac parcel
#

cause i recombed like hell on them

#

those t1 flask mods are so hard to alteration spam get them

wind axle
#

damn

lilac parcel
#

and i have this big problem brother , that i hit the mod and click again :))

wind axle
#

LOL

#

i did that once with a chromatic

#

on off colors

#

took me 1 day and a half to get it back 😂😂😂

lilac parcel
#

like i lost 50 % of the rolls like this hit the mod and cant stop the inertia and hit again

wind axle
#

i know what you mean lol

#

brain notices the mod but your finger already clicked

lilac parcel
#

yes

wind axle
#

btw are you brazillian

lilac parcel
#

your eyes see it brain registers it , your brain scream at hand stop stop, hand goes one more time

sick raft
wind axle
#

do you do the text search thing? so you see it highlight when you have the mod

lilac parcel
#

im romanian living in denmark

wind axle
#

usually makes it easier to not roll over it

#

ahh ok ok

lilac parcel
#

but i look like arab muslim :))

wind axle
lilac parcel
wind axle
sick raft
stoic horizon
lilac parcel
#

also at magic jewels corupted for adorned i did that alot

wind axle
#

did what? roll over good ones?

lilac parcel
#

ggg should make an hard stop at spam , like something that would not let you click anymore

wind axle
#

like terraria just did with the reforging

stoic horizon
#

TLI got their crafting comfy af

#

you set what mod you want and it rolls till you get it

wind axle
#

but i think i like the "friction"

lilac parcel
wind axle
#

on poe i mean

lilac parcel
#

friction made me cry in this game

#

you dont understand spam brother

wind axle
#

i do not my friend

lilac parcel
#

this is 9645 alteration orbs

wind axle
#

damn

lilac parcel
#

i think it has weight 35

wind axle
#

whenever iu actually do "spam" a bit, i just get a good mod, add another good mod, use a regal and brick it, instant vendor

#

#stonks

wind axle
lilac parcel
#

12

#

!!!!!

#

12

#

wtf weight 12

wind axle
#

yours was 130 tho

stoic horizon
#

it went on a diet

wind axle
#

not 109

lilac parcel
#

it has 2 mods

#

i dont understand why ggg makes this impossible to get mods

#

12 weight

#

there is one with 35 which i never got it

#

yesterday i used around 35 k alteration 40 divines cost in standard i never once hit this

sage falcon
#

weightings arbitrarily decided a decade ago and not changed since shrugR

wind axle
#

:waytoodank:

dusky void
#

does nearby scale with area of effect?

sage falcon
dusky void
#

whats the base radius?

sage falcon
#

nearby is hard set depending on the source and scales with nothing

#

see the wiki page on nearby for your specific source

stoic horizon
sage falcon
#

there's like two dozen possible distances for nearby

stoic horizon
bronze falcon
#

"nearby" is a meme

sage falcon
spice pecan
tranquil umbra
#

nearby is anything on my screen smile

bronze falcon
#

Alone in the Dark 1+2+3 free on GoG, lads

dusky void
#

on the bog shaman malediction it doesnt say the radius on poe wiki

brazen vector
sage falcon
#

possible that we might simply not know what the bog shaman radius is

#

as everything has to be manually tested

dusky void
#

what is on average the radius 2 to 4m?

stoic horizon
#

ok average the radius is nearby

tranquil umbra
#

it says nearby which means it can range from anywhere to anywhere

stoic horizon
lilac parcel
#

nearby 3 meters no ?

sage falcon
lilac parcel
wind axle
bronze falcon
#

"Nearby: An arbitrary distance from the character determined when the specific skill in question was developed with no consideration for existing definitions of the word "nearby".

stoic horizon
#

nearby is so hard to get, even hot milf ads cant get it right

wind axle
bronze falcon
finite quail
#

nearby is a lot of different things

wind axle
finite quail
#

it is completely inconsistent

sage falcon
#

hopefully they backport "prescence" from poe2?

blissful zodiac
sage falcon
#

or are we content with nearby forever

lethal bloom
civic charm
#

Nearby is 3m iirc

#

They tested it with kingmaker to get the exact measurements

hoary scarab
#

3 Million?

civic charm
#

It's either 3 meters or 4 meters

wind axle
bronze falcon
#

The world may never know

sage falcon
#

3.5 +- 0.5 metres 👍

heady cliff
#

recomb slightly improved 2+2 source items with 15d cost

bronze falcon
#

Mr. Owl, How many meters to get to the center of a Nearby?

hoary scarab
#

its some ammount of pixels on your screen

heady cliff
#

sadly box open chance did not transfer

sage falcon
heady cliff
#

but idol improved anyway

civic charm
#

Ppl out here cooking with money

#

Making 15d idols

heady cliff
#

source items were 15d, this one is a bit more

eternal dawn
#

i think i know why i have a mana problem, my mana potions doesn't regenerate mana

civic charm
#

What was your early strat to make 15d?

heady cliff
#

tree tbh

sage falcon
civic charm
#

What u make on tree 6L?

wind axle
heady cliff
#

foulborn rathpith

civic charm
#

Ah

wind axle
#

jsut different mechanics have different names?

civic charm
#

Is it common in the tree?

heady cliff
#

(really wants full tree nodes)

clear summit
#

Second sight keystone anoint doesn’t exist???

heady cliff
#

it is a common enough base item to make fishing for it reasonable

hoary scarab
heady cliff
#

unlike hh/mb copium

hoary scarab
#

not all recovery is regeneration

civic charm
#

Is it more common than say a foulborn dream feather?

sage falcon
# wind axle what's the difference, actually

recovery = everything that makes you get resources back (leech, regeneration, recoup, flask recovery). its an umbrella term that includes regeneration
regen = "Regenerate # Mana per second" / "Regeneration #% of Maximum Mana per second" - very specific, needs to use the word "regeneration".

heady cliff
#

more rare

#

hm, dreamfeather is another good option

sage falcon
#

never could be

#

you need the right timeless jewel to get it anyway

sleek barn
#

caustic ground is not it for me rn

bronze falcon
#

Which direction do you guys run to when starting a new lab and why is it up and to the right?

sleek barn
#

door there

wind axle
#

feels (up and to the) right

past mantle
#

Due to how the game works a lot of exits or bosses are north east.

#

Its the best place to run to.

bronze falcon
#

Im doing a quiz on electrical systems and the two multiple choice answers are D. and C.... DC... on an electrical systems test... bravo

stoic horizon
sleek barn
#

well theres also A

#

so it could be AC

#

next question will be AC trust

stoic horizon
sleek barn
#

i would be quite sad if there was a multiple choice question with choices up to V

bronze falcon
#

At that point it may as well be open ended

icy zinc
#

Hmm but is it a minion still

sleek barn
#

yeah

icy zinc
#

puppetge

#

oh well

sleek barn
#

what were you cooking

icy zinc
#

one of the nodes from puppeteer

#

would be funny to use zombies for meatshield

#

and the dark monarch

sleek barn
#

literal meat shields

#

poor zombies

#

dark monarch is quite restrictive

#

i hope you're going for vaal absolution

icy zinc
#

yeap

#

spawning two of the giant guys

#

2 giants 6 smalls

#

2 giants supposedly the same power of 6 smalls plus other goofbal sht

#

so 12 absolution dudes total

sleek barn
#

yeah its definitely something i wanted to do

#

after doing vaal domination

carmine ether
#

So til I play a few leagues and events now on ps5, it's the first event which is kinda unplayable/unjoyable. I have so many lags and freezes that I really have to give up this event. Day 1 was fine but since Friday night the lag nightmare began. Anyone else had the same experience?

sleek barn
#

should be very fun

strong totem
#

Architect absolution seems good

heady cliff
#

self-sustaining containment is fun

#

that means idols are fun!

strong totem
#

Gen chat told me leg ded

#

They lied so they can have all the mirrors

heady cliff
#

who cares

sleek barn
#

yeah i wouldn't run vaal absolution on puppeteer

#

but trialmaster ascendancy should be enough to sustain charges

#

you don't even need to go architect of chaos

strong totem
#

Im currently planning everything around architect

sleek barn
#

i was looking at wildspeaker actually lol

keen veldt
#

I wish gambling idols was a lil cheaper

#

am too poordge for this shit

sleek barn
#

im too poordge from respeccing

keen veldt
#

same I had to do 2 big respecs

#

how do I get more chain range

#

I took trick shot already

sleek barn
#

more quality on chain support lol

keen veldt
#

i don’t think I can fit chain support

#

I’m using kf so it just has chain

heady cliff
tidal estuary
keen veldt
#

the amount of juice you can put on the map

icy zinc
#

casual hypnotic lol

#

life res and 2 dmg stat wtf

keen veldt
#

which is like the whole point imo. Insane maps, insane ascends

craggy coyote
#

what could this be worth?

#

the abyss + map effect is 1div, but no idol exist with tormented mods

craggy coyote
#

oh ty

tidal estuary
#

vendor trash?

heady cliff
craggy coyote
#

oh i put it up for only 4div now

heady cliff
#

explicit + spirit chance is likely below 5 div

craggy coyote
#

so 4div is okay?

heady cliff
#

extra spirit is likely irrelevant if someone farms exiles

craggy coyote
#

okay thank you very much sir, ill leave it at 4div then

heady cliff
#

if someone farms exiles, then 4 div is fine

#

but that is a BIG "if"

lilac parcel
#

i have hit it after 2 days !

#

is there any way to save it for recombinations > would imprint work ?

#

if i imprint this then recomnb it with an other > woudl the imprint work ?

split maple
#

result of recomb is new item, so imprint of input item wont work on it

lilac parcel
#

there is no way this stuff costed me tens of thousand of alteration orbs

split maple
#

you can alt spam a spare

#

thats the other way

#

did you pob tho nebulis and shit?

lilac parcel
#

there is no more alteration on the server

lilac parcel
elfin spire
#

am i tripping or rares are too tanky in phercia?
annoying level of tanky

shy river
#

can i talk about phrecia here or is there a extra channel ?

lilac parcel
#

talk here

tranquil umbra
#

you can

lilac parcel
shy river
#

aight
anyone else having weird tree drops ? i have 85% less for dex,str int bases, 400% jewellery and 5000% ammies
i get like 1 amulet every 8 wombgifts

split maple
# lilac parcel

nebulis got buffed this league - its basically 450% incr damage

#

and up to 3 useful implicits boosted 120%

#

with good implicits idk if even 6mod rare sceptre beats it

lilac parcel
#

im on standard

#

from 75 to 90 is 15

split maple
#

so 3x15x10

tranquil umbra
#

it counts every element separately

#

so yeah it's 450% increased ele damage

lilac parcel
#

he wants a god damm mirror

sleek barn
#

gotta do what you gotta do in standard

muted musk
#

do additional ahrbinger chance stack to over 100% so taht you can get 2 extra if you ahve 200%?

split maple
lilac parcel
#

its meah

#

i think

#

for the price

split maple
#

myb something like fire damage/elemental damage/faster ignites combo

lilac parcel
split maple
#

idk what rf guys play with

lilac parcel
#

well if i manage to craft the scepter i will get this :))

hardy brook
#

is the idol recom patch comin soon?

normal hedge
#

lets see

#

🔮

lilac parcel
#

from the league

split maple
#

idk man maybe try rolling it yourself kek

lilac parcel
#

beast?

split maple
#

vultures work on these yea

#

imprints tho logicaly dont

lilac parcel
#

hahahaha

#

are they so rare ?

#

do you get one like every 10 maps ?

#

or something

#

its like a fracturing orb lets say ?

#

how rare are those vultures man ?

split maple
#

you get 18 on avg per 40 kirac missions harvest beasts (so 1000 reports)

#

from 20k sample somebody posted today in poeladder discord

lilac parcel
#

so i would need 1 k reports to rerol kirak , so i get the harvest beast ? then from 40 of those i get 18 ? on avg?

split maple
#

you get on avg 1 harvest beast mission per 25 reports

lilac parcel
#

but from harvest beasts you get some other beasts also

split maple
#

and 0.45 chicken per mission avg

lilac parcel
#

not only vivid

split maple
lilac parcel
#

which one is it ?

split maple
#

doesnt rly matter, operative or comp prolly have best chance, explorer prolly best price ratio

#

dunno about standard prices

#

or wait not operative 🤔 this one only gives implicit not enchant

pulsar dune
#

wait, the secondary projectiles from kbof cannot return?

lilac parcel
#

why was he talking about awaken gems what he wants enlighten ?

#

awaken?

#

he uses beast to rerol the gems ?

split maple
#

bc awakened gem reroll beast is also harvest beast

#

so you also get these

#

also watcher eye reroll beast if thats more your jam

brazen vector
#

Flaring Merciless from tree x_x

#

on a mace :s

lilac parcel
#

so you an rerol any awaken gem with change to get englighten gem awaken ?

sour wadi
#

no

normal hedge
#

thats funny

lilac parcel
#

thn you can upgrade the gem fast ?

sour wadi
#

awakened enlighten/enhance/empower are excluded from the beast reroll

split maple
#

you are mainly fishing for woke multi

lilac parcel
#

so the big ones only drop from maven which has to be uber maven

#

not the normal maven

#

but the uber one

brazen vector
#

yea

lilac parcel
#

wtf man