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spice pecan
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last league i really played much of was like, delve

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and a bit of kalandra

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before 3.25

fossil mural
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Kalandra was better than idols

spice pecan
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that's bait

stoic horizon
fossil mural
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At least I could farm essence back then

spice pecan
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could farm div cards back then too

karmic gust
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ggg managing to make card farming somehow completely worthless is certainly an achievement

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card farming was basically always at least consideration when farming something, now you just dont rly care

spice pecan
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"you still have pilfering i guess"

fossil mural
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Some poedb mods also dont seem to exist

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On trade?

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Or is the wording just odd

charred condor
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How do I do that on an Xbox?

steel light
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who dumped all their chisels here? ScuffMadge

spice pecan
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slipperyjim enjoyers

fossil mural
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Essences found in your Maps have (25—35)% chance to be a tier higher

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Not in the game?

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😩

jagged raven
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how do u get Refiner's Bargain or other unique idol from tree?

crimson hearth
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is strongbox farming still good

spice pecan
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better than keepers probably

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probably still just as boring though

steel light
stoic horizon
crimson hearth
spice pecan
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hard to say what the div/hr from boxes is tbh

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it's extremely hit or miss

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you can get like 20 dry maps in a row before getting anything

crimson hearth
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well what would be a good mech for guaranteed divs

spice pecan
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harvest

crimson hearth
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harvest is trash on console

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i tried it no divs for lifeforce on currency exchange

steel light
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5/10 D/H is like ultimatum range

spice pecan
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maybe beasts on console then

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idk how ass is it to manage them

jagged raven
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if they patch refiners bargain high chance it gets cheap right?

crimson hearth
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il try ig

spice pecan
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it becomes effectively worthless

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if they patch it

crimson hearth
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delirium or delve good or?

spice pecan
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delve is pretty awful generally

stoic horizon
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deli isnt really worth doing full farm around these days

spice pecan
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you don't even get that many fossils, much less the rare ones

pulsar dune
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If there's a market for simulacrums and clusters, deli could be good

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You could try juiced exarch altars

crimson hearth
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fair enough ig

pulsar dune
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You get grand embers and raw chaos

spice pecan
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alch n go with red altars is like super consistent chaos ye

finite quail
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Aight, time to get my ass kicked by maven once again

karmic gust
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if you need simus and clusters just do mappers with deli orbed maps

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its better than actually doing the maps yourself

crimson hearth
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il check it out same with strongboxes

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thanks

steel light
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40c per kirac mission bla

charred meteor
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ngl, idol system isn't good

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during a gauntlet style league

split maple
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tree is kinda saving grace for me there - its extremely liberating being able to be able to gear up without having to care bout mechanics

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dip into map, do breach, do boss, next map

true falcon
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PoE1 is more fun when the bosses are harder and you actually have to minnax your build instead of picking random passives and pressing a 3 link sunder

charred meteor
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then what's the difference between poe1 and poe2 then -o-

finite quail
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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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IM DONE WITH MAVEN

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FOR THE REST OF THE LEAGUE

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LAST PORTAL

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FUCK YOU GHOSTED MAVEN

true falcon
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PoE2 is too shallow in it's gearing right now, you get T1s and there's nowhere else to go

fossil mural
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It doesnt stack sadge

fossil mural
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Dropped the bugged idol pog

true falcon
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Eventually when PoE2 has Elevated, Krangled, Kalandra Kissed, Sanctified gear on a Primordial base, then PoE2 needs like real Ubers

fossil mural
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Wait why is it back to 100c

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From 180c

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Lmao

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Another pump and dump?

karmic gust
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because its not rly uncommon drop no

fossil mural
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Now I see there are dozens of very recent listings

true falcon
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Wish they'd make idols SSF craftable

fossil mural
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For about 100c

stoic horizon
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ig ppl started power farming bosses to drop these for profit

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and bigger supply does reduce the price

fossil mural
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Economies 🚬🦆

karmic gust
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yea thats pretty normal

ember goblet
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it was 40c 10 minutes ago

brittle phoenix
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Actual L rng, I've spent 17 hours farming Grain Gate and no fishing rod

spice pecan
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holy despairge

raw gull
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are servers bad for anyone else

spice pecan
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you do have a tricorne equipped right

brittle phoenix
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I do yeah

spice pecan
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damn

brittle phoenix
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I think the loot penalty is too much

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75 at 57 zone

ember goblet
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damn rathpith finally dropping

finite quail
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what loot penalty

ember goblet
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what loot

finite quail
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there is no loot penalty

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there's an xp penalty

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you're just unlucky

brittle phoenix
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The one you get at being X levels higher than the alvl so extra content doesn't show up as often but also quantity is nerfed

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Nah there's also that penalty they introduced after people were farming Quarry for league mechanics

strong totem
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Quantity has always been nerfed for that

brittle phoenix
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Not always

strong totem
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People used to farm div cards with low lvl chars

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Not always, but when relevant

brittle phoenix
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Fair

finite quail
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Hm....

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I'm gonna keep running lost shipments till I get to 94 then I'm gonna dip

craggy ridge
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hello all, im playing a CI mine power siphon Daughter of oshabi and im having some kind of problems with it i cant seems to spawn the lesser shrines!!! i even have a Gull is there a reason for that?

opaque sphinx
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gull acquired

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u guys think i can do uber lab at like 300k deeps?

brittle phoenix
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Sure you can

opaque sphinx
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im convinced

brittle phoenix
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I've done it with less even I wanna say

opaque sphinx
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with enrage tho?

brittle phoenix
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Oh right, lab has that too

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Yeah, if you're made of paper then you gotta be extra careful

opaque sphinx
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not like paper paper

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but kinda paper

brittle phoenix
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You're fine

opaque sphinx
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we just won't get hit 4head

brittle phoenix
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Bob and weave

spice pecan
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chaos damage isn't real, it can't hurt you

finite quail
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your mines are killing enemies

limpid prairie
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Bacon of madness is stacking up to 8 with 160% debuff rate ugh!

finite quail
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your mines are not wearing the gull

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therefore no lesser shrines

craggy ridge
finite quail
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Switch off of mines

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to something else

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That's the only solution

spice pecan
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don't play mines/traps/totems

craggy ridge
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damn kk

finite quail
urban spade
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is it just me or is performance like really bad this event?

split maple
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gravebind kek

finite quail
spice pecan
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i mean yeah maybe gravebind gloves would work

urban spade
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like this game shouldn't be eating 90% of my cpu

fervent crescent
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how's the bog shaman rf'er feeling boys? for those oding it

opaque sphinx
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oshabi gang

finite quail
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It should consume 100% of your cpu

ember goblet
opaque sphinx
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we don't need it

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gull is just extra

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KEKW

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WHATS A LAB TRAP

finite quail
opaque sphinx
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i was just standing on one taking no dmg

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and i was like why?

haughty gale
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do the prismatic combat focus jewels not need the stat nodes to actually be allocated?

opaque sphinx
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shrine is why kek

limpid prairie
opaque sphinx
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does gull affect darkshrines ?

fossil mural
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And I am still wondering

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If this somehow works

haughty gale
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yeah same

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I am just looking at it and am like wtf

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I guess it does say "in radius"

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not "allocated in radius"

kindred silo
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it dodsnt need to be allocated

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doesnt

haughty gale
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was it always like that?

kindred silo
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its been like that for a while

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idk if it was ever changed

haughty gale
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neat I guess

opaque sphinx
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bro ppl were acting like this was impossible

haughty gale
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people are vastly overexaderating how difficult non pinnacle content is

opaque sphinx
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seems so

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what colour to trans

haughty gale
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I dunno how some poeple have hundreds of deaths in campaign

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I saw a screenshot of a guy complaining about act 9 final boss and he had 1k life 💀

civic charm
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i have 160 deaths and im at t2 maps

opaque sphinx
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lmfao

haughty gale
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I did campaign with 19

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but I was abusing sunder ig

civic charm
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im playing sunder

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and my slammer is paper

opaque sphinx
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thats wild man

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im LA

tranquil sedge
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so its not surprising

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  • its easier to rag on something if a lotta other ppl are doing it at the same time too
haughty gale
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I mean I literally just followed this levelling guide step by step

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it's not really skill just the ability to read

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I wouldnt say I am mechanically good

split maple
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i had 50 deaths in campaign and majority were before lab 1 😛

opaque sphinx
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i just clicked random evasion nodes on tree

spice pecan
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i literally spam died to brutus for flask charges tbh

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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and one other fight

opaque sphinx
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aint even have a start plan just "oshabi something"

haughty gale
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my most painful point was act2 boss, not because it's hard but because I didnt drop whetstone and had a 0dps weapon I found on the ground

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I was wailing on that mf for 15 minutes

true falcon
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Moonlight is so great. Can stream from my big PC to my laptop to play in bed over my local network and it's only like +10ms latency

opaque sphinx
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w/ no shrines up

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should prob unspec PA and get crit now that have 4th lab for diamond shrine uptime

eternal dawn
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im still in the acts but sometimes i just die out of nowhere, anyone else having that problem

haughty gale
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btw does shaper beam proc ghost dance? Wiki says shaper beam is dot only but I've had people tell me it also hits

finite quail
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that's not very specific

true falcon
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I found it harder than Gauntlet, idk

spice pecan
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gauntlet didnt have enrage

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but gauntlet was hcssf so

true falcon
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I always leaguestart hcssfbtw

finite quail
opaque sphinx
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what colour gem best to transf9ig atm

finite quail
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check poeninja prices

opaque sphinx
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smh let me be lazy

spice pecan
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ones that come to kind are kboc, pbod, lancing steel of spraying

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but idk im not really playing

haughty gale
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slayer would stop

stoic horizon
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first time seeing this belt

split maple
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from merc league

finite quail
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lol double free map craft

dreamy charm
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whats the big boom idol for exped called

opaque sphinx
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damn ts basically just pbod

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r00d

spice pecan
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large f

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
opaque sphinx
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or do we yolo agane

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i have 5c fuck it go big

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small win

spice pecan
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was that a double altar

opaque sphinx
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ye was uber

spice pecan
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huge

opaque sphinx
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fuck i might just farm this for a bit

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omg when gull spawns accel shrine

hard cliff
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wtf is this fortress

spice pecan
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merc lab is probably better no?

opaque sphinx
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idk u get 2 tries with uber

spice pecan
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it's a fortress that spawns on some specific layouts

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its very cute

hard cliff
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that's awesome

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open map
breach stabilize on top of an altar

Time to turn on the Doom OST

shrewd marsh
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What is the best way to get kinetic blast of clustering on a ranger in phrecia other than buying it for 18-20c? (Just finished campaign and I'm poor lol)

stoic horizon
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you finished campaign so you can already spam merc lab

copper vale
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farm 20c

stoic horizon
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or just finish the campaign with a div from treetemplarLul

hoary scarab
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exploit fixed, league saved, blame fubgun

spice pecan
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fixed? you got sauce?

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or shitposting again

hoary scarab
potent horizon
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for 2.0 whats the fastest campaign/leveling class this time around

brazen vector
potent horizon
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i got done on day two with pconc that was rough

spice pecan
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"This Idol will be limited to 1 in a future patch."

copper vale
spice pecan
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i guess they just bandaid fixed it for now and then will specifically limit it to 1 later

hoary scarab
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guess you can put in multiple but only 1 will apply

stoic horizon
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so you can just troll your idol setup now if you really want to

spice pecan
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also apparently sirus is bugged rn and you can't even do feared

copper vale
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ts idol will be 1maxxing in a future patch🥀

spice pecan
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and sometimes the fight just bricks

hard cliff
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Thank you maven

brazen vector
copper vale
stoic horizon
hoary scarab
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no just a child

surreal musk
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does quant affect currency from eldritch altars? like exarch altars 2% chance for inlfuenced mobs to drop chaos

copper vale
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yes

opaque sphinx
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i forgor

hard cliff
blissful zodiac
blissful zodiac
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mans jumped you

split maple
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now that was quick

rapid gazelle
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WHAT MOTHEWR FER CHANGED MAVEN

crimson hearth
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anyone know how i can get the rage on hit ?

spice pecan
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it's almost 10am monday in nz right now

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so it makes sense

split maple
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spam until you get it, can use lesser

crimson hearth
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greater has more chance?

stoic horizon
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no

spice pecan
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i think it's actually lower chance

stoic horizon
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probably even less because more mods

spice pecan
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since 2 rage on hit is elevated iirc

crimson hearth
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oh ok

spice pecan
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yeah just use lessers

crimson hearth
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il spam lessers and try to craft the rest

spice pecan
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well get good explicits first

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before spamming eldritch currency

split maple
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1% remaining case is conflictin +2 strikes lol

stoic horizon
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yeah dont waste eldrich currency on an item youll swap soon

crimson hearth
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ohh so try to get the other mods and good explicit then eldrich spam

spice pecan
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yeah

fossil mural
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My hulking whatever shit just turned into a crab

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😩

hard cliff
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LMAO :((

spice pecan
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i wish i were a hulking whatever shit

cosmic cobalt
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guys the herald of agony stacks is it global or per-target? like does each mob I attack has his own set of stacks and thus when the crawler attack him he does variable dmg / target

spice pecan
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are you talking about virulence stacks

cosmic cobalt
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yes

spice pecan
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virulence is just a buff on you that determines how strong the crawler is

elfin shale
spice pecan
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the enemy doesn't gain virulence

cosmic cobalt
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cuz sometimes I see crawler oneshots and sometimes barely doing dmg

cosmic cobalt
spice pecan
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yeah, that's probably bc the crawler decides to melee

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either stack uptime or the frustrating hoag AI

elfin shale
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I didnt even know it had a melee attack

stoic horizon
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retaliate glad with azadi crest

cosmic cobalt
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OH right he has few set of attacks

spice pecan
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it does and it does no damage

cosmic cobalt
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so thats probably why automation+ convocation is a thing

blissful zodiac
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hey guys is paladin consecrated ground good

spice pecan
blissful zodiac
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thinking up picking up one of the lvl 30 auras instead lol

spice pecan
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consecrated ground ain't bad if you do anything that makes you stationary

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also i think the auras still cost reservation so keep that in mind

blissful zodiac
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going smite pally

muted musk
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for stuff like rational doctrine, do i get both effects if my strength and int are identical and highest?

spice pecan
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yes

muted musk
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insane! TY

spice pecan
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at least im like 99% sure

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"If Strength and Intelligence are tied for highest attribute, both Consecrated Ground and Profane Ground can be created. " yes

dark sigil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiQst_vg-oM chris is so wholesome. this is what out supporter packs went towards btw :3

You may know me from Path of Exile, but to some people, I'm an obsessive Magic card collector. In this video I describe some of the most exotic misprinted and test print land cards I have acquired over the years.

0:00 Introduction
0:28 Land Cards
1:06 Misprints
14:19 Test Prints
19:40 Foil City of Traitors Test Prints
21:20 Legions Test Lands
2...

▶ Play video
frigid wedge
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literally havent started maps yet

tranquil umbra
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fear

muted musk
livid quarry
frigid wedge
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i want to bonk

opaque sphinx
frigid wedge
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who needs res

spice pecan
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this is so sad

frigid wedge
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this is WITH ALIRA

proud gorge
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oh hmm, anyone know when the extra mod(s) kick in?

frigid wedge
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and all res on my tree

livid quarry
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yeah i just take alira nowadays

proud gorge
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I just noticed that I have an extra mod active in Act 8

livid quarry
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and stick with it for a while

stoic horizon
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mid act 6

opaque sphinx
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smh nerd get a res

frigid wedge
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i just finished acts

proud gorge
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interesting

opaque sphinx
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no excuse get a res

proud gorge
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I guess I just didn't really notice until now

frigid wedge
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thanks heist

opaque sphinx
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gz

spice pecan
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bonk stick

muted musk
frigid wedge
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whats the roll range on these like

proud gorge
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hmmmm, that seems a bit high

livid quarry
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just get resis on ur weapon

frigid wedge
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oh thats not awful

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thats just 1k phys

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yk

stuck phoenix
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Oh hey, they fixed it

proud gorge
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good thing I'm playing totems so the skill plays itself

frigid wedge
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literally

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the first heist box

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i opened

icy zinc
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Murdered xddd

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Game saved

blissful zodiac
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economy saved

hard oar
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I don't even know what idols are :x

blissful zodiac
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@hard oar I think

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they sing

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and dance

pastel pecan
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Man, im starting to realize I may not make it far in just 3 weeks

hard oar
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lmao, not those idols XD

hard cliff
spice pecan
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people already got mirrors from spamming 50m ships

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literally 3 50m ships going nonstop

stoic horizon
hard oar
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how do you even get 50m for a ship o.O

proud gorge
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what the heck, I though people were complaining incessantly about how horrible Doedre was to fight

pastel pecan
proud gorge
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that was nothing

spice pecan
proud gorge
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I was all ready for an incredibly tough fight

spice pecan
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but they hotfixed it because it was very obviously not intended

proud gorge
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what the heck is Refiner's Bargain

stuck phoenix
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The atlas keystone for settlers

spice pecan
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it turns harvest juice drops into kingsmarch crops at 300% value or something

proud gorge
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oh, that one yeah

proud gorge
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yeah that would be very silly when stacked

strong totem
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It stacked 32x

spice pecan
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yeah

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and you could run 32 of them

pastel pecan
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Damn

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I wish i capitalized on that

spice pecan
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or some shit

pastel pecan
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Im so far behind becuase working full time go burr

spice pecan
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we get to have the reddit discourse of exploit or not

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yet again

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🙄

hard oar
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Wow, so once again, people who are fast capitalised on an unintended bug, while people who are slower got shafted? xD

spice pecan
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just like that

stuck phoenix
hoary scarab
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as they say "exploit fast exploit often" or something

stuck phoenix
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And the idols did rise in price quickly

proud gorge
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oh wait I just realized why my connection is lagging so badly lmao

civic charm
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Day 1 they were 1c that's how most things are in poe

proud gorge
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it's because I'm trying to download Sims 4 at the same time

potent bramble
civic charm
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By the time the masses know it's too expensive

pastel pecan
hoary scarab
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the people that leaked it 100% hoarded them to sell big before the quick fix

stuck phoenix
eternal dawn
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my games crashed right when something i wanted dropped

pastel pecan
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And i have 0 idol strats rn

proud gorge
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I was like "ah this is taking a while, I'll play some PoE while I wait"

stuck phoenix
proud gorge
# stuck phoenix Don't forget to mod it

what good mods are there? I heard there's a lot of custom furniture and stuff, which is good because there's no way I'm buying all those paid DLCs that are literally just furniture and clothing packs

stuck phoenix
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Slider mods :p

hoary scarab
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the mods that shall not be named

stuck phoenix
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Xddd

spice pecan
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over $1k for all sims 4 dlcs

proud gorge
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I watched the Tomodachi Life nintendo direct a couple days ago, and that got me kind of interested in trying a "Life Sim" type game

spice pecan
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yeah no

eternal dawn
hoary scarab
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i miss sims 2

stuck phoenix
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Lol

proud gorge
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$1,505 at full price yeah

stuck phoenix
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Maps last longer I think?

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Delve is gone immediately

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Or is it

stoic horizon
dawn sluice
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im down couple d kings march enjoyers rip 😭

elfin shale
spice pecan
stoic horizon
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15 div according to macro

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huge

proud gorge
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but if you don't buy any of the really garbage "kits" and "stuff packs" the price goes down by a lot, and if you buy all the content on sale only, it goes down even more. Still an absolutely ridiculous amount to charge, but a lot less egregious

spice pecan
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yeah ryslatha's coil is giga spendy on league start

stoic horizon
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dropped from a failed fortress bla

spice pecan
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all 3 of us bleed bow enjoyers are fighting over it

pulsar wraith
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can someone help me with voidstone exarch by chance pls?

proud gorge
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absolutely none of the expansion packs are worth $40, but some of them might be arguably worth $20, maybe

stoic horizon
onyx adder
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Perfect roll ryslatha mbn

onyx adder
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Ya read rules, though i got sympathy for ppl failing exarch this league

spice pecan
stuck phoenix
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And for what reason

stoic horizon
onyx adder
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Theres a begging rule isnt there

proud gorge
# stuck phoenix Interesting thought process

I saw a lot of reactions from, apparently, dedicated "life sim" youtube channels, and that got me watching some videos, and learning about some surprisingly deep gameplay from people weirdly dedicated to these things, despite, or perhaps because of, their somewhat "random" nature

eternal dawn
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stabilized my first breach, unfortunately i got the wrong moonstone ring

icy zinc
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Enraged sirus is the most annoying pos ever, on memory lane quest

stuck phoenix
spice pecan
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sirus is apparently incredibly bugged

proud gorge
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someone apparently built a giant castle where 8 generations of their vampire family are living together, which is wild

spice pecan
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cannot maven witness and sometimes he goes up and doesn't come down

stuck phoenix
elfin shale
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This is a funny consequence of ambush maxing

spice pecan
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can ambush even exert frostblink

elfin shale
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no

spice pecan
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xdd

elfin shale
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I just need to attack REALLY slow

spice pecan
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starting year 2 naked brutality low value run

proud gorge
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but yeah, apparently opinions on which expansion packs are actually worth it vary wildly, evidently partly by how in-depth the person ranking the packs is getting into the mechanics. Like apparently Island Living is very interesting aesthetically to a new player, but has basically no long-term usefulness, while Get Together feels very bare and shallow to a new player, while in reality being one of the most useful and powerful tools a player can have

ancient moth
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any maven carry here?

stuck phoenix
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No

proud gorge
spice pecan
#

don't really like killboxes, and i'm keeping colony value so low that rushing gun turrets is probably good enough for a while

scarlet jacinth
#

Rimworld!!

spice pecan
#

i got so tired of failing sea ice drug empire runs so i figured i'd try this

proud gorge
#

you can definitely killbox with bows

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hell, you can "killbox" with spears

spice pecan
#

oh i know

proud gorge
#

it's just a somewhat weird design

spice pecan
#

but they don't drop divine orbs, so they don't get that respect

#

we running gun turrets n go

proud gorge
#

fair enough yeah

#

I'm an optimizer-gamer, so I tend to prefer to use all the tools at my disposal while also having the game throw everything at me

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which does tend to cause my Rimworld runs to die to one of those robot spaceships that just sits out in the open and kills you eventually lmao

unique kraken
#

hello why do ppl says to run merc lab instead of normal lab for alternatives gems? i did normal lab like 10 times for lancing steel

proud gorge
#

since you have to actually approach those instead of just killboxing them

spice pecan
split palm
opaque sphinx
proud gorge
#

prior to Lab 3 you're just chucking random gems in of the right color and hoping it randomly generates the one you're looking for

unique kraken
#

it takes much longer to run tho with a golden door and i tink 2 rooms between each bosses no?

proud gorge
#

which is pretty low odds

spice pecan
unique kraken
#

ye i will try both but normal lab takes me maybe 5min , will see how long it takes for merc ty

spice pecan
#

so if the rest of the layout is good, then maybe try it

#

generally if merc lab has a really bad layout, normal lab spamming is better

unique kraken
#

today is golden door on room1 but key in same room, and there are 4 shrines so i should get those too? or run to the end?

spice pecan
#

if shrines are on the way, idk i just beeline topright/topwhatever the layout says

unique kraken
#

ok ty 🙂

proud gorge
#

I will say, specifically for a transfigured red gem, normal lab is probably honestly better, because there's only 32 possible transfigured red gems, so the odds of getting the transfigured red gem you're looking for is pretty high

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and it's very fast running through normal

split palm
#

that layout looks ass

proud gorge
#

but for Green or Blue, the odds of you getting the specific transfigured gem you're looking for is ridiculously low

unique kraken
#

im looking for penance dissipation because i got burned out by herald of agony , cant stand it for longer

split maple
#

i think i needed like 40 mercs for pbod in mercs?

#

i would like get build ready for gift labs

unique kraken
#

hm i think i should just run a few maps then and buy it at lvl 1 , maybe 12 maps for 50c at my stage

proud gorge
#

there's 80 blue gems, so the odds of getting a specific blue gem out of the 80 is 3.75%, so about one in 27

heavy rivet
#

any cast when stun bog players here?

keen bear
#

When is next league?

unique kraken
#

and for green? i got mine in normal lab im curious of the odds , took me 10 runs total

heavy rivet
keen bear
heavy rivet
#

no

proud gorge
split maple
#

red are easy, green and blues are ridiculus

spice pecan
#

greens have a lot of gems that have 2 different trans gems right

proud gorge
#

or about 1/25

keen bear
thin leaf
#

What build is good for blighted maps?
Kboc maybe.

unique kraken
#

dang ok i got lucky then, but its not really 1/25 if you get 3 choices every time you click the altar

pastel pecan
#

Are there any non-idol strats that can make good money rn?

proud gorge
#

no it's 1/25 every time you click the divine font

#

that's 73 choose 3

unique kraken
#

oh ok thats worse than i though 😄

proud gorge
unique kraken
#

straight from gacha korean games 🙂 ok i see

pastel pecan
heavy rivet
#

any cast when stun bog players here?

split palm
#

how about 0.8%

unique kraken
#

i played lost ark with awful odds back then, like 1% per click and some ppl got it while i had to grind for a week to catchup

modest depot
#

ramping gold

proud gorge
#

but yeah, the odds meanwhile of getting the transfigured gem you're going for with the "transfigure this gem" option, assuming the gem has two possibilities, is 1/2, but the appearance rate of that particular option is apparently like 6%

#

so actually

heavy rivet
proud gorge
#

that comes out to, like, 3% odds

modest depot
#

farming blight lol

heavy rivet
proud gorge
#

though in practice, any run where you don't get the "transfigure this gem" option you can just roll for the 1/25

modest depot
#

duo armour/int stack

heavy rivet
#

💀

#

duo player

#

wanna lemme leech some gold?

modest depot
#

drop your ign and i can invite u later. will be a while tho my duo is wakin up and im gambling 26m gold on conqueror idols

heavy rivet
#

how much gpm? 👀

modest depot
#

idk

#

we've started brickin some maps recently because our set got even harder

#

generally our worst map is 300-500k gold

#

most of the time its around 1m unless we get fucked on blight spawn

#

best map i got was around 2m gold

#

but for sharing you just have to enter at the end before pump dies so you kinda get to do whatever

heavy rivet
#

you doing invigoration blight?

proud gorge
#

oh I forgot to actually do the Ankh of Eternity quest

split palm
#

I have yet to get a good idol 😭

proud gorge
#

I walked inside, tabbed out to talk about Sims for a bit, then tabbed back in and mentally went "I guess I'm done" and left lmao

rugged hedge
#

is feared bugged for anyone else rn?

#

sirus cant be witnessed

#

for some reason

#

like maven shows up and does stuff

spice pecan
#

yes

rugged hedge
#

but doesnt count as witnessed at the end

spice pecan
rugged hedge
#

o lmao

spice pecan
#

id expect it to get fixed with the hotfix that should likely be coming today

rugged hedge
#

guess we cant have the atlas

#

every patch is a new sirus bug i guess

hard cliff
#

hello guys

modern zinc
#

hello

fossil mural
#

NOICE

spice pecan
#

lmao you thought

rugged hedge
#

normal sirus is decently profitable with current awakening orb prices at least

fossil mural
#

Cause mapping aint it

spice pecan
#

apparently sirus is like unkillable most of the time

#

rn

fossil mural
#

I dont even have gold to buy idols

spice pecan
#

like he just goes up and doesn't come back down

fossil mural
#

And to get gold I need idols

rugged hedge
#

o i havent experienced the in air bug yet

#

but the death balls on phase shift seem to move faster at least

spice pecan
#

i mean yeah fuck sirus with enrage in general

hard cliff
#

hell yeah I can facetank vruun (in level 73 map)

rugged hedge
#

without the bug rn i think he's faster to farm than in normal league

#

assuming you have good dps

#

just a bit on the rippy end

split maple
#

gold rooms are like 50k each

spice pecan
#

arent gold rooms like giga rare or some shit

split maple
#

i think i got them 3-4 times in 120 wings?

#

but i didnt focus their job bps

proud gorge
#

lmao, I like how people are already getting angry at GGG for nerfing the broken idol strategy. Like, would you prefer they not and destroy the economy for the entire event?

spice pecan
#

economic integrity

proud gorge
#

Also apparently people are massively overblowing the relative value of the idols compared to other strats

spice pecan
#

i mean chain-sending 50m ships is like

#

very not healthy

eternal dawn
#

55 chaos for a jewel that gives 3x80% spell damage, is that a cheap price?

spice pecan
#

you're supposed to get one 50m every what, 1-2 weeks?

#

not supposed to be able to stack 50m ships right behind each other and run multiple at the same time

proud gorge
#

yeah but it still took a few hours of very active play to hit 50m, whereas normal Kingsmarch strats assume almost zero active time actually spent

fossil mural
crimson hearth
#

is there a more reliable xp method other than just maps , after 90 leveling is painful

split maple
fossil mural
spice pecan
#

90 is meant to be painful unless you want to sit in 5way services which probably dont exist on console

split maple
#

cheap mirrors doing wonders for 20day leg kek

fossil mural
#

In poe2 there was a similar exploit where people had infinite ritual rerolls

proud gorge
#

like yeah, you'd only get a 50m every couple weeks, but that's without any active play, while you're able to spend your active play time doing actual strats

fossil mural
#

It was up for a week or even longer

#

Didnt really do shit long term

modern zinc
#

thinking about dropping my shield in favour or another sceptre bcz my damage sucks so hard rn

spice pecan
#

you have to actively play to sustain the gold at the very least

#

especially if you're using dust too

proud gorge
#

sure but that's pretty minor

split maple
#

you have to actively buy gold rota

#

and actively buy dustable uniques

#

and actively sell mirror shards to finance that

spice pecan
#

yeah, it's not nearly as afk as it seems

fossil mural
#

Basically avoid playing the game

#

Mobile game simulator PAG

split maple
#

its rly low effort in trade cmon

proud gorge
#

the idol strat would earn you maybe 2 mirror shards per shipment, and each shipment took at least a few hours of very active play. 2 mirror shards is like 15 div, so that's, what, 5 div an hour?

heavy rivet
#

@modest depot can i see your like idols or scarabs your running

proud gorge
#

maybe 7 div an hour generously

split palm
#

ahahahah what

fossil mural
#

Very active gameplay

proud gorge
#

again, way faster than we're used to from Kingsmarch, but that's all active play

fossil mural
#

It happens automatically in the background

split palm
#

you are missing the point where this is QUITE LITERALLY THE MOST BRAINDEAD STRAT EVER

proud gorge
#

directly farmed currency

split palm
#

BECAUSE IT IS PASSIVE

fossil mural
#

Active vaalkek

opaque sphinx
#

its not passive tho u have to map to get the stuff?

fossil mural
#

Its def more active than your neurons

proud gorge
#

it's not? The idol strat literally requires you to go in and farm lifeforce

#

to get the harvest crops

fossil mural
proud gorge
#

you're not passively producing crops with this strat, it's actively farmed crops

opaque sphinx
proud gorge
#

yeah the idol strat converts lifeforce into crops, so you have to run Harvest

proud gorge
#

and then turn the lifeforce into crops, which you can then send out, but it still takes a few hours to get enough crops for a 50m crop shipment

#

honestly the big winners here were the guys who horded the idols when they were 5c, told everyone that the strat was broken and prints mirrors, and then flipped the idols for like 2 div each

fossil mural
#

Cause that shit isnt taking hours to send a ship

#

Lmao

proud gorge
#

I'm not arguing that it shouldn't have been fixed, I'm just saying that it was way less "insane" than people were making it out to be

fossil mural
#

You can def farm a full ship within ships time

#

3 ships that is

#

You get obsene amount of crops

#

Cause remember harvest is also boosted this leg

proud gorge
#

15 div an hour is high but not unreasonable for a strat, and that assumes you're farming up a 50m crop shipment every hour

plush gulch
#

my build doesn't quite work

plush gulch
#

😔

hoary scarab
#

i mean, it still isnt as money printing as some ppl make it out to be

spice pecan
#

50ms still print raw divs too, no?

hoary scarab
#

sure it was strong, but not economy destroying levels

fossil mural
proud gorge
fossil mural
#

Mirrors might drop

#

In price

#

But thats about?

plush gulch
#

41 death in campaign I just finished today

#

it was tough

hoary scarab
#

also those peeps still needed dust n shit

fossil mural
surreal musk
fossil mural
#

I dont think its an issue

hoary scarab
#

and dust it didnt print nearl as much

hoary scarab
proud gorge
#

but yeah, that's the point, it was definitely an exploit worthy of being fixed, but in practice it was a lot more reasonable in terms of div/hour than people were making it out to be

fossil mural
hard cliff
#

double possessed double boss 😩 😩

fossil mural
#

I doubt running full bugged idols for crops is better as well

proud gorge
#

I think because peolpe see mirrors getting involved and assume it must be broken if you're getting mirror shards

#

when in practice mirror shards are only like 7 div

kindred silo
#

its also a ton of raw divines

fossil mural
#

And then drop nothing

#

Ggg classic

hard cliff
#

I got a rare idoruu

#

beast mode

modest depot
proud gorge
#

yeah, it's still very strong, don't get me wrong, people are just overblowing how strong it is because they go "you can send a 50m in a couple hours instead of a couple weeks" not including that the reason why Kingsmarch is good normally is because it happens largely in the background while you do other things, and run other 20 div/hr strats

fossil mural
#

I got ff from eater

#

On the first kill

#

Unid costs nothing

#

Lmao

hard cliff
#

hell yes

hard cliff
#

SPEAK YOUR TRUTH

fossil mural
#

Sold for 250c

proud gorge
#

if you could farm enough crops to send off a 50m shipment every 4 hours or so, it'd honestly be pretty balanced to most other strats, maybe even a bit weak

#

because that's 4 hours of active mapping to earn one 50m shipment of loot

hoary scarab
#

anyways, blame fubgun and prpceed with your day

proud gorge
#

and you're losing all the harvest juice

#

to turn it into crops

fossil mural
#

I will blame whoever baited me into animate of ranged

wet mica
#

Is anyone else disconnecting only in Lab? It's my third time trying t3 lab and I've dc'd every time...

fossil mural
#

Its so fucking bad

hoary scarab
#

i feel you

proud gorge
#

lmao

hoary scarab
#

am also playing it

#

and damn it sucks

hoary scarab
#

i rerolled a ranger now beofre i even hit 90

bold scarab
proud gorge
#

both animate weapon spells that target random weapons suck ass because it's just random ground weapons

spice pecan
spice pecan
hoary scarab
fossil mural
#

I have to spam flask

proud gorge
#

and turns out random ground weapons are terrible

hard cliff
sour wadi
#

is the economy ruined?

bold scarab
sour wadi
#

I just woke up

proud gorge
hoary scarab
hard cliff
bold scarab
gritty garnet
#

if you want extra fun socket lightning warp into your tornado spellslinger link

somber sundial
#

I bought fractured 1% inc attack speed per 25 dex grasping mail i86 for 7div

proud gorge
#

but apparently the weapons animated out of lingering blades really suck ass

fossil mural
#

I think ill be rerolling into kf as well

kindred silo
hoary scarab
split maple
#

"We're also looking to lower the cost of recombinating Idols." 👀

proud gorge
#

equivalent to Crude Bow and Glass Shank? wild

hard cliff
#

Just not much right now 👀

kindred silo
#

i dont see seething

bold scarab
hoary scarab
bold scarab
#

Cuz I played it in keepers league

#

As elementalist

kindred silo
spice pecan
#

i want to be able to play that build for the majority of campaign

dim glen
#

I'm trying to recomb these 2 suffix, i failed like 15 time in a row. Am i doing something wrong ? Lost like 5 or 6 div.

hoary scarab
#

you can definitly level with KF

fossil mural
spice pecan
#

fucking hate the template of "slams/arma brand till 90 then respec"

bold scarab
spice pecan
fossil mural
split maple
fossil mural
#

Probably not even close

hoary scarab
#

you dont need reduced duration to level with it, it only starts mattering once you want to scale attack speed

split maple
#

Consider using isolated suffixes

hard cliff
#

I am saving up points for unholy might on crit cluster

spice pecan
#

there's surely no way KF feels better than arma brand without reduced duration

fossil mural
#

For twinks that is vaalkek

hard cliff
#

Seething Fury gotta go in somewhere tho I agree

#

prob on the cluster jewel

bold scarab
#

Like it's a little different from say needing to be lvl 28 to use Dom blow ... Having to wait till 69 to swap to hoag for example

#

Sadge

spice pecan
#

i'll eventually try KF but it's not a particularly exciting skill for me imo

hoary scarab
#

passive tree + support is all some people use for KF

kindred silo
#

u kinda need seething to even consider crit

hard cliff
#

it was ok

gritty garnet
#

if you want unholy might get a pair of shadows and dust

spice pecan
#

and ofc if i'm gonna play it into the endgame, you have to go reduced dur stacking

hard cliff
#

Arakali tho

slate fossil
#

do skills with 'increases and reductions to x also apply to y at z value' also benefit from flat damages or only %?

trying to find if there is a skill that can benefit from the added attack and spell damage from HOT and HOI

spice pecan
#

which is cringe as fuck

gritty garnet
#

rampage makes your clear seem way better than it is

hoary scarab
#

more/less also doesnt count

split maple
fossil mural
#

Some say you dont need reduced duration even for endgame

#

You just build differently

#

I am not sold on that tbh

spice pecan
#

nor am i

hard cliff
bold scarab
spice pecan
#

and i'm generally a (slightly) delayed damage enjoyer

hard cliff
#

I don't have the res to drop gloves atm tho

spice pecan
#

because i love totems

hoary scarab
bold scarab
#

To be fair Dom blow of inspiring is sad by default ... They should let us summon 3 rare sentinels and nothing else

#

Owo

#

Make them buff bots for the skill

#

Cuz like the entire identity of inspiring is u doing all the work

#

But it's just so boring rn

#

It's just a worse heavy strike

hoary scarab
#

you can scale quality to a point where it gets like 900% of increases and reductions to minion dmg or someshit

bold scarab
#

Lol

#

Kinda same problem as the absolution version

#

Just feels like a worse version of another skill with random minions attached that aren't even the main focus of the skill anymore

frigid wedge
spice pecan
#

poogies

slate fossil
#

is that going rate on phrecia rn?

fossil mural
#

Oshabi poison kf or mana stack whisperer kf hmmm

hoary scarab
#

ive played the absolution version in merc, ended up not even having minions cause i used wraithlord and stacked a bunch of support spectres for huge dmg

dusky void
#

which glacial cascade should i use on a self cast build? and how many overlaps does it has with 66% increased aoe

bold scarab
spice pecan
#

thatn kind of absolution kinda wants woke spell cascade, no?

bold scarab
#

I forget

#

Kek

#

Only seen it once too

split palm
#

that is some nice shock effect ngl

hoary scarab
#

can triple overlap wirh woke cascade

spice pecan
#

yeah

bold scarab
#

But ye I remember they were doing it for the pendulum area scaling

#

So like 1 strike could literally cover almost the entire screen

hard cliff
fossil mural
hoary scarab
#

i was doing wraithlord for lucky lightning and big wrath aura from spectres and mainly for the %miniond dmg if you used a minion skill recently eyes

#

had like 12k inc dmg at the end or smthing

split palm
#

that is money

#

no rare items = insane

slate fossil
#

all mods start a tier higher is gonna be rough though

fossil mural
#

Wispers is 6 div 😩

#

I am so god damn poor

proud gorge
split palm
split palm
#

my entire build is like 50c

fossil mural
#

I already spent I believe

#

A few div

#

On animate garbage

#

Its barely playable

proud gorge
#

with the right skill, you can kill ubers on like 50c budget

#

the right skill is Regeneration Totem

fossil mural
#

I will never again get baited into minions

crimson hearth
fossil mural
#

Expecially spectres

proud gorge
#

honestly there's strong-ass minions, but I dunno if Animate Weapon is the play

fossil mural
proud gorge
#

which causes totems to deal damage scaling with their max HP when attacked

#

Regen Totem just happens to have the highest base health

crimson hearth
#

ohh so i get more hp it do more dmg

proud gorge
#

yeah

crimson hearth
#

thats nice lwk

native abyss
proud gorge
#

it's a very strong build, and since it has perfect synergy with the Black Zenith gloves it doesn't even need a 6-link

#

since you socket you skill into a 4-link in the gloves

#

the downside, though, is that the build is very awkward to play

#

it's basically CWS totems

#

which makes it good when there's a ton of enemies around to attack it quickly

#

but extremely annoying against a single Uber pinnacle boss that only occasionally attacks

#

some pinnacles even attack primarily via DoTs, making the hit-based retaliation of the totems extremely slow

plush gulch
#

when I look at flamewood totem video it looks like the most awkward build to play i've seen

#

and not in a good way

hard cliff
slate fossil
#

is there a solo minion strong enough to be viable as main damage for a paladin link skill build?

proud gorge
#

it's alright in most of the same places CWS is good, densely packed maps

opaque sphinx
#

reaper

proud gorge
#

and Simulacrum

teal shoal
#

WHERE THE FAK ARE MY SPECTRES, ALREADY LOST FKING 5 DIVINES THANKS TO THAT SHITTY BUG AFTER MAP INSTANCE CRASH

proud gorge
#

honestly Flamewood is probably a good skill to do Ultimatums with

#

though I don't think they can taunt the Ruin guy

plush gulch
#

the delay between the totem spawn and the clear

#

is insane

crimson hearth
#

theres 3 builds i rly wanna try actually but all super expensive apparantly could i get opinion on them

proud gorge
#

yeah, but that's just totem build things

crimson hearth
proud gorge
#

like I said, probably best in a closed environment like Simlacrums

plush gulch
#

nah most skills are instantaneous

proud gorge
#

where you can just have the totems perma-summoned

plush gulch
#

here it's 3 to 5 business day

#

lol

plush gulch
#

but sure it looks strong

slate fossil
#

wait so is reaper actually good or not i cant tell with the memes?
and animate guardian is the one where i can turn a bunch of items into a guy right?

plush gulch
#

especially for a few specific content

proud gorge
#

but yeah, there's a reason why it has persisted as the single cheapest Uber boss killer for years now

#

nobody wants to play it

fossil mural
#

Reaper is a meme skill

#

Altho maybe with paladin and links shit?

bold scarab
#

make absolution of inspiring minions apply conductivity at the same level as itself ... or give it its own custom debuff

#

remove every minion from dom blow of inspiring that isnt a rare sentinel ... and add 2 more rare sentinels

plush gulch
#

@proud gorgemy rage vortex build doesn't quite work I need to hit a pack with a random move a few time until i get enough rage then I have to cast ambush and then I can cast rage vortex of berserking and it's cast time is kinda long

#

so T1 map I die sometimes before im able to cast it

crimson hearth
modest depot
bold scarab
#

also hitting a boss should spawn a rare sentinel with a random set of mods but only 1 aura mod

proud gorge
#

Reaper is designed to exist as a solo minion, since it deliberately makes your other minions way worse. The problem is, Reaper is also really bad, and designed around this weird active minion playstyle where you have to command the Reaper to actually use its skill

hard cliff
#

Nice grats 50 div

bold scarab
proud gorge
#

probably

proud gorge
#

ah

#

tragic

plush gulch
#

yep

modest depot
proud gorge
#

imagine being a Behemoth, couldn't be me

plush gulch
#

the best I can is cyclone with infused channeling but then ambush dashing on a mob while doing no dmg can get you clapped

proud gorge
plush gulch
proud gorge
#

signature look of Polytheist superiority

plush gulch
#

anyway not sure what to do now

proud gorge
#

me when my stupid meme build is going better than somebody else's stupid meme build

plush gulch
#

I need to find something cool

proud gorge
#

what's that other skill that hits super often

plush gulch
proud gorge
#

Bladestorm of Uncertainty

plush gulch
#

idk I hate this skill

#

for some reason

proud gorge
#

Rage Vortex or Bladestorm

plush gulch
#

lol

plush gulch
proud gorge
#

ah

plush gulch
#

like when you compare to berserker

#

you get so much dmg out of it

proud gorge
#

yeah

#

do you have the spectres

plush gulch
#

no

proud gorge
#

I guess that'd mostly be a defensive boost anyways

plush gulch
#

maybe you can even out the difference if you stack enough armour

#

for sure

#

in campaign using rv of zerking was fine

#

but now maps are a bit tougher

#

also I use a sword so no sunder

#

sunder was so safe

heady cliff
plush gulch
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@proud gorgewhat's your meme build

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I forgot

jaunty hinge
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im too lazy to grind the event yall think its worth it?

hoary scarab
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if you lazy, no

lean urchin
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well, if u dont have fun, why bother farming 2 lootboxes

jaunty hinge
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makes sense

sharp fulcrum
proud gorge
# plush gulch <@142809520647831552>what's your meme build

honestly originally it was going to be Ignite Refresh Abberath's Fury, but turns out Abberath's Fury's buff was actually tiny and it still sucks, so now I'm playing the less meme but still relatively niche Shockwave Totems Polytheist, which actually plays to Polytheist's strengths

heavy rivet
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@modest depot iadded u btw

crimson hearth
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what would be the fastest way to farm the elder fragments?

proud gorge
opaque sphinx
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make mapper do it

proud gorge
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usually with maven witnessing

crimson hearth
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im not bosser build but il try

rich widget
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how do i county this

proud gorge
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"boss rush" just means rush directly to the boss, which is an Elder Guardian, without stopping to kill enemies

thick goblet
plush gulch
sage falcon
plush gulch
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how is it dude

proud gorge
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Boss Rushing is usually best with very fast builds with, like phase run or something equipped

plush gulch
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shockwave totem looks so neat

proud gorge
rich widget
plush gulch