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tranquil sedge
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u right mb

proud gorge
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lmao

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PoE players vs reading

tranquil sedge
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phrecia applied a reading debuff to me randomly

sonic jolt
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lol

finite quail
proud gorge
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anyways, yeah, Elemental Hit is very strong, scales well, and is easy to leaguestart on because, like spells, it gets most of its scaling through raw gem level

finite quail
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mmmm... lost shipments...

sonic jolt
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good thing is that i love the fact you can respec without the need for regret orbs

proud gorge
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yeah, it makes respeccing more accessible than ever

sonic jolt
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pricey in endgame tho, but useful than ever

proud gorge
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previously respeccing was prohibitively expensive early, but completely free late, because the price of Regret Orbs made it super expensive early but basically free late

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but now the scaling gold cost means that you can pretty reasonably respec with gold during campaign

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and then endgame you just use regret orbs again

sonic jolt
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yee

proud gorge
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so it's pretty cheap on both ends

sonic jolt
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thing is, i must proritize on the skill tag of the gem

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cuz otherwise, it'll wont do a thing to the skill gem

proud gorge
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which is a great benefit to new players, since new players often find themselves indecisive about passive tree pathing, and feeling locked into a passive tree that they've made a mistake on can feel terrible

sonic jolt
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i know..

proud gorge
finite quail
sonic jolt
proud gorge
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ah, yeah

royal wyvern
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does precise technique affect minions?

stoic horizon
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no

proud gorge
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yeah, I feel that, I usually prioritize defenses over offenses because I really don't like dying

finite quail
stoic horizon
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in general if something doesnt mention minions it doesnt affect them

sonic jolt
proud gorge
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this Phrecia league is a lot tougher than usual though, so you definitely need to prioritize defenses more

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if you want to not die

rancid tendon
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outside of the campaign and the additional mods are there any changes other than that its phrecia

proud gorge
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all bosses have enrage

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also idols, but that's part of phrecia

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it really is all bosses though, including the big ones

sonic jolt
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and the templar doesnt do that shit.. you have your freedom in poe to build anything

steady elk
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gauntlet but eh that's a nothingburger compared to enrage

sonic jolt
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one time, i told them "i wanna go dw templar with both swords". they said "you can, BUT..." as a way to say there is better builds

proud gorge
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I will say, yeah, Dual-Wielding these days is mostly limited to incredibly specific skills that specifically benefit dual-wielding, like Mamba

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or when you just need two weapon effects for some reasons

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shields and blocking have just gotten so many buffs

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they're just really strong right now

sonic jolt
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DW should be buffed

proud gorge
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even on a non-dedicated character, just throwing on a shield and taking a couple of extremely accessible shield/block wheels can make your character massively massively tankier

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it probably should yeah

sonic jolt
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but like every company: nobody cares of your comment~!

fallow fern
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how much evasion should i have to dual wield these

sonic jolt
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i think GGG is on that verge with the rich now...

proud gorge
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Huh? I wouldn't go that far, GGG does tend to listen to fans a lot

sonic jolt
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ah ok

proud gorge
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and Dual-Wielding does have its strengths, particularly when you want to double up on some stat from some weapon

brazen vector
proud gorge
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eg: Replica Dreamfeathers

tranquil sedge
sonic jolt
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tho maybe next league, i would love to know the saresh league will have dw being buffed

tranquil sedge
fallow fern
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i have 100k evasion atm

tranquil sedge
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then try to see if it makes a working build in pob

proud gorge
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it's just generally weaker than weapon + shield if there's no particular reason why you want to be dual-wielding

fallow fern
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i am using that 3% attack dmg per 450 asdendancy too

tranquil sedge
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if its better than other options, etc

proud gorge
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but like, honestly that makes sense

tranquil sedge
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i imagine that should be doable tho

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i dont have a build guide to link or i would unfort

fallow fern
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just asking because 100k evasion with low tier bases

proud gorge
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if you have no particular reason to be dual-wielding, it kind of makes sense that it'd be weaker than equipping a weapon and a shield, or a 2h weapon

fallow fern
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just seemed high to me

sonic jolt
proud gorge
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funnily enough spellcasters are more likely to just dual-wield randomly for no reason

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since dual-wielding weapons involves attacking alternately with the two weapons

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while spells just treat their weapons as a ball of stats, so they can benefit from the stats of both weapons every time they cast a spell

sonic jolt
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well, what about cleave

proud gorge
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Cleave is sort of one of those skills that can benefit from dual-wielding yeah

sonic jolt
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i know it reduce dmg

proud gorge
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since it attacks with both weapons

sonic jolt
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yea

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and dual strike

finite quail
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YES LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

proud gorge
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but yeah, generally to justify dual-wielding you want some sort of "global" damage stat on both weapons

steady elk
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what are we pogging at

proud gorge
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or for both weapons to be just that powerful

steady elk
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wow chaos orb!!

proud gorge
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Witchmark maybe?

fallow fern
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viper strike of the mamba

fallow fern
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is super good with dual wielding

proud gorge
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yeah

fallow fern
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too bad i am tired of strike skills league starts

sonic jolt
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im not XD

grizzled lily
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its so funny to have a bible full of map mods

modern zinc
finite quail
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its like multipe divines

steady elk
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shieeet nice

finite quail
modern zinc
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damn that's expensive

fallow fern
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without that atlast point for treasure chests i cant get cheeky runegrafts

finite quail
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But I'm not gonna sell

fallow fern
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forced to do kingsmarch

finite quail
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I'm gonna USE it

fallow fern
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i am guessing

grizzled lily
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peak idol performance here

rancid tendon
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i got 2 divs so far and both times i fucking called it

fallow fern
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a unique leather belt + divine orb dropped next to each other

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i though its fate

whole bluff
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Is everyone just running the bugged stuff or are people still hoping it will get bug fixed?

finite quail
fallow fern
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this works with fury valve right?

whole bluff
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Ngl, I don't know if I'm motivated to play if it's either risk getting banned or suck

finite quail
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That runegraft takes me from 11 million dps up to 38 million

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but the life cost is fucked...

shrewd fiber
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is daughter of oshabi shrine stacker a comfy league starter? can it get tanky or is it a super squishy ascendency?

sonic jolt
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heh, fuck leagues for now.. i'll just gonna play standard (even tho with all the items i collected, some sold, others kept on, with collection of my uniques on my unique tab as my trophies) and see if i can stop burning my brain with ideas

fallow fern
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the evasion stacking node is stupidly good

split palm
sonic jolt
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bpbrppb4ppbrp

potent bramble
sonic jolt
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i use my mouth as a string lol

tulip fern
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could someone help me with second trial please? it will be very appreciated

shrewd fiber
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really tired of dying lol

finite quail
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On second thought I will not be using the runegraft

viral vector
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Anyone else getting disconnected anytime they go to the monastary of the keepers? (phercia league)

finite quail
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I don't have a proper way of fixing the life cost

viral vector
whole bluff
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If we assume that economy is driven by bugged kingsmarch, like it is supplying all relevant quantities of currencies that can be obtained from kingsmarch without wasting boat time (opportunity cost), what should I try to run to profit of them without risking my account? Blight? Bossing? Delve?

fallow fern
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70-80k evasion

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u can just go hybrid tho

shrewd fiber
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how high content can you push and on what budget, do you have a pob

rancid tendon
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how hard is six linking with black morrigan

fallow fern
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i am on t10s with low budget gear

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no pob tho

golden timber
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is reddit crying for nothing? or is the league super mega super hard

stuck phoenix
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Reddit whines 100% of the time

whole bluff
rancid tendon
# shrewd fiber how high content can you push and on what budget, do you have a pob

https://pobb.in/Imwh3rjAd6i5 btw ik that my build is kinda shit right now

whole bluff
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Plus 3 yellow beast rare adds, and the general mooks red beasts summon

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Or maybe 6L was 2 red beasts

devout widget
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guys i need a lil bit help understanding how poison is applied

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my bow atm does only Physical Damage, but i am using toxic rain which converts 60% to chaos

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My bow dps is 400 dps

lilac parcel
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after a day os spamming alterations i have made it

devout widget
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so atm im doing about 300 chaos damage and 200 physical

solid laurel
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they're definitely gonna have to void this event if they dont ban/delete stuff from the exploit lol

devout widget
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how does the game decide or calculate the poison dot

spark tusk
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Are there forbidden flame/flesh for scavenger this season? how does it work?

fallow fern
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what exploit even happend

solid laurel
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basically infinite crops and dust, so mirror ships 24/7

finite quail
solid laurel
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i say infinite because the limiting factor is time, you have more crops/dust than you can send out 50m ships

finite quail
icy zinc
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respectable packs

spark tusk
split palm
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is it just me

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or did totems drop more in phrecia 1.0

whole bluff
# devout widget how does the game decide or calculate the poison dot

Toxic rain isn't great for poison. But in general poison just cares about your flat dmg and then applicable scalars:

  1. Damage over time
  2. Damage with ailments
  3. Global damage
  4. Damage with bow skills
  5. Physical damage if the base dmg that poisons was ever physical.
  6. Same as 5. for all 5 damage types (phys, light, cold, fire, chaos)
  7. Chaos damage (cuz poison itself is chaos damage)
    Notably these do not work:
  8. Hit damage
  9. Attack damage
  10. Melee damage
  11. Projectile damage
  12. Spell damage
  13. Area damage
  14. Damage with a specific weapon type (bow dmg etc)
tranquil sedge
cyan elbow
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what are the chances they hotfix refiner's bargain?

icy zinc
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10000000000%

cyan elbow
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I'm debating if spending my current stash to get it is worth it

tranquil sedge
umbral crag
cyan elbow
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alr i wont bother

tranquil sedge
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so lets hope that it happens asap tomorrow lol

split palm
tranquil sedge
umbral crag
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They havent really done anything to regain poe1s players trust yet so

cyan elbow
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i won't be able to buy more than 3-4

tranquil sedge
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in general for bugs i am of the opinion that in the majority of games the only objectively correct answer is abuse early abuse often

icy zinc
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i wont sleep tonight knowing people got 1 million crops out of average harvest tonight

tranquil sedge
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unless its something u expect to get banned for
then obv don't

cyan elbow
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not enough wealth to abuse properly lol

tranquil sedge
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hahah

cyan elbow
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rich get richer amen

split palm
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resetting abusers would be nice too...

umbral crag
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I only just managed to finish acts today coz i was too busy so rip me

solid laurel
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they should be in office in like 1-2 hours so heres hoping

split palm
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because that is beyond broken

umbral crag
tranquil sedge
split palm
visual stream
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3 more levels and i can escape this hell holes of even give me streng guys

tranquil sedge
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but ye i doubt its getting rolled back

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too much effort for too little

solid laurel
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doesnt it go into keepers league?

tranquil sedge
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it does

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then it'll go into standard shortly after

split palm
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just ban the players who abused it KEKW

solid laurel
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^^^

split palm
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for the league

tranquil sedge
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i don't think its a big enough bug for them to do that 🙁

solid laurel
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So many strawman arguments i'm seeing saying people shouldnt be banned because GGG slipped up

solid laurel
umbral crag
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Is it even a bug as opposed to just an exploitable mechanic that ggg didnt account for

civic charm
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They won't bad but they'll nerf the idol for aure

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Eco is gonna be inflated like a mofo tho

tranquil sedge
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and by 'nerf' we mean 'fix' ofc

split palm
solid laurel
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honestly best time to do a strat which doesnt give raw currency

potent bramble
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I might just be dumb, but I don't really understand why it's busted. Just crazy crop production, or?

tranquil sedge
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which average 2.5 shards each

solid laurel
rancid tendon
tranquil sedge
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you're not supposed to be able to do that ^

solid laurel
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which gives mirror shards

frigid wedge
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who are we saying needs banning?

rancid tendon
solid laurel
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ultimatum infinite mobs

split palm
tranquil sedge
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i c

solid laurel
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which is honestly 1000x less offensive than the current one

frigid wedge
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are we complaining about the refiners bargain idol stacking w itself

split palm
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they basically abused a bug which allowed for it to be basically endless

split palm
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crashign the server multiple times OMEGALUL

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so there is that

potent bramble
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Doesn't seem like a bug to me then, just part of the 'normal' idol OP-ness. Might (and probably should) be patched, but not a bug b/c all of the items involved would be working exactly as they're meant to

icy zinc
icy zinc
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that's so disgusting

tranquil sedge
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its not even remotely close to being potentially intended game behaviour

solid laurel
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Its not a bug, its an oversight, but thats semantics

tranquil sedge
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ig

solid laurel
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not all exploits are bugs

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People get super held up over that

frigid wedge
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bc i dont see that being bannable in any situation considering other idols with percentage things generally stack, it's strong but it's not exactly an exploit as much as just them not considering it as a thing

whole bluff
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What do I slinger for poison oshabi?

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VD?

tranquil sedge
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i think its a bug because of the wording on the idol that doesn't imply the ability to stack it, yet it stacks

solid laurel
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Its not a bug, they just forget to limit it to 1

stoic horizon
potent bramble
solid laurel
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Its extremely obviously not intended

tranquil sedge
solid laurel
tranquil sedge
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it just applies at Z value
rather than stacking w/ itself or other sources

whole bluff
# stoic horizon bf bb?

Only when I can afford grace of the goddess? Or is it so good I should start this anyway? All dmg poisons

frigid wedge
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like, if u go, ooh does this stack, and it does, then ur not knowingly abusing an exploit, ur just using smth that looks like it works

solid laurel
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Bug exploits almost never happen, its 99% of the time oversights

civic charm
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but it does have a unique flair

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so ppl should know it shouldnt stack

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or have a limit of some sort

whole bluff
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Also, I can probably fit a handful of spells

frigid wedge
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i think its similar to original crafting with orb of unravelling and bench mods tbh, no one got banned but it got patched mid lwague

whole bluff
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So BF/BB is a bit limited

frigid wedge
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bc unintended

tranquil sedge
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not limiting to this 1 is definitely an oversight ye

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unlike other idols, pic from wiki

frigid wedge
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oh thats on their ass entirely

civic charm
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likely it shoudl have been limited to 2

solid laurel
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no, 1

stoic horizon
solid laurel
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every other unique idol is limited to 1 right?

civic charm
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2 for original atlas values

tranquil sedge
frigid wedge
tranquil sedge
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this is the atlas node, pic from wiki

icy zinc
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thank god you cant buy refiners bargain without overpaying

tranquil sedge
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it was reduced to 150% in a patch

icy zinc
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now nobody makes profit

whole bluff
tranquil sedge
whole bluff
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Spellslinger gives 200% of wands dmg to spells

tranquil sedge
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it doesn't take long to recoup the cost of the idols

whole bluff
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That are slung

tranquil sedge
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they're not expensive enough to be a stopping factor, not yet at least

icy zinc
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wdym not long

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hah

tranquil sedge
icy zinc
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40-50 div to buy full set

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GL

tranquil sedge
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is that all

stoic horizon
tranquil sedge
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that sounds like nothing compared to what ur making off it

dreamy charm
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i just wanted to farm some essence everything so expensive at start mapping

icy zinc
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plus gold costs for the shippers

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plus limited amount of time

tranquil sedge
solid laurel
tranquil sedge
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literally the only limiting factor here is time sent shipping

finite quail
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gah dam what a harvest reroll

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Fuckin powerful

tranquil sedge
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and ur sending them nonstop if u have those idols from what i understand?

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50m shipments average 2.5 shards per ship

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so yea 50d is nothing to earn that

frigid wedge
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yeah but theres nothing actually stating u cant do it

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or shouldnt be able to

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atm

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so i dont see it being bannable

split palm
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funny resists

whole bluff
tranquil sedge
frigid wedge
stoic horizon
whole bluff
stoic horizon
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yeah so its wasted

icy zinc
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not only i doubt somebody buying refiners bargain el masse then i also doubt someone having 6 shippers lvl 10

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but sure maybe 10 players

solid laurel
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level 5 cap now

whole bluff
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Seriously, you don't play ignite on cloak of flame just cuz it has ignite duration

icy zinc
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tops

tranquil sedge
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shippers cap at level 5

whole bluff
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That's a bonus if you play ignite

tranquil sedge
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and lets be honest if you were planning to abuse this literally none of this is going to stop you lmao

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you'd buy one gold rota take 10 minutes and have all the shippers you need

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problem solved

frigid wedge
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yeah it doesn't take long once ur build works to max out kingsmarch when u literally only need 1 type of job

tranquil sedge
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then buy one set of idols and make a mirror or more before the day is over

stoic horizon
whole bluff
stoic horizon
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and will prob give more dmg than it

tranquil sedge
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even if it was just a tiny handful of people that doesn't make it any less important to patch out asap

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this is the kind of thing that convinces players that abuse early abuse often is the best play every time

pulsar dune
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yea, with GGGs track record, it just kind of is

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going to get patched money I'd wager

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and going by how they handled poe2 recently, only new idols will get the limit

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hm, no, that's not generous enough.

tranquil sedge
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chris wilson' take on economy integrity is still solid today

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it has to be sacrosanct

tranquil sedge
hard cliff
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Hello guys

tranquil sedge
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fwiw i think its really weird that they don't have a weekend support team whose job it is to monitor shit like this

hard cliff
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I'm about to rice field this motherfugger

tranquil sedge
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like holy moly how hard is it to pay a few people to watch ur AAA ARPG season launch weekend lol

pulsar dune
hard cliff
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@tranquil sedge

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Catch me up on wtf is happening please

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is the league fucked ???

tranquil sedge
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no

hard cliff
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I'm in tier 11 maps

tranquil sedge
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we're just talking about this

hard cliff
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Wow that's fucking awful

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why even play anymore

pulsar dune
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yea, budget mirror league

tranquil sedge
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now go run maps like a good boi

hard cliff
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I'll never be good at the game tho

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So what's the point

tranquil sedge
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not with that attitude

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10 more maps

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stat

hard cliff
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10 more maps for what

native abyss
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lock in piragon

hard cliff
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you literally just said their is no more economy

viscid sedge
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Ragequitted Pherica 2.0 and deleted my char after 22hrs XD Oh well.

tranquil sedge
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i dont know
just 10 more maps

tranquil sedge
pulsar dune
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I mean, everything except mirrors and divines is intact

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which really is just a plain W

tranquil sedge
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luckily that method prints raw mirrors as its largest value of loot

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thats actually good for the economy

pulsar dune
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enjoy getting to do horrific things to your items via cheap metamods

tranquil sedge
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yea the fact that mirrors and tattoos and raw divs are the loot

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that's a win for overall economy

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3 week event enjoy the supply lol

pulsar dune
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craft 5T1 quivers or smth

tranquil sedge
hard cliff
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If I don't get big drops in ten maps I'mma come back at you @tranquil sedge

pulsar dune
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yea, ships don't have that many divines

hard cliff
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The coutndown is on

tranquil sedge
modern zinc
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If I'm playing ignite armageddon brand

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should I do normal and get ignite chance or do I do crit?

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I have no idea how to decide that

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I guess you go crit if you have more money for gear since you get higher dmg with it?

hard cliff
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I can't believe how just changing where i put my mouse cursour

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turned this from barely playable build to a beast mode skill

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The boss damage on this is STUPID good

stoic horizon
modern zinc
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hmmmm....... interesting.........

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thank you for that, i'll keep it in mind forever

pulsar dune
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a bit of crit can be nice to keep up EO, but arma brand usually keeps it up by default

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that's more for WoC and such\

finite quail
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New gloves are so juicy mmm...

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already spent most of that witchmark money on upgrades lmao

elder marlin
finite quail
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life is better iirc

elder marlin
finite quail
crimson hearth
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https://pobb.in/-1RJJFsGRMAn i use this LA guide anyways i got ele hit of the spectrum why is it so much weaker? level20 max quality still tho

hard cliff
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I got 25 chaos

granite nexus
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Was surprised how many people on reddit complaining about event difficulty.

elder marlin
hard cliff
hard cliff
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the site is just a big herd of morons running from one side of the ifeld to the other

finite quail
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I didnt craft them

hard cliff
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I wish GGG would never interact with them

hard cliff
crimson hearth
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why is the dmg so down?

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LA display dps 100k ele hit display 25k

tranquil sedge
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pob configured dps is all that matters

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and gameplay feel

elder marlin
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Any1 wanna guess how much i bought this for?

crimson hearth
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ohh ok il pob it

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ele hit of spectrum is better for bossing right?

tranquil sedge
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i dunno enough to make statements like that

tranquil sedge
unique kraken
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finally done with event (lvl 90) 🙂 have fun and gl to everyone else playing, i liked the campaign more than mapping (first time i did a gauntlet)

elder marlin
lilac parcel
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hope i hit maybe 1-2 more good mods ?

tranquil sedge
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those are all 3 prefixes right

lilac parcel
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yes

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i want malevolence 40% and some 1 more fire stuff

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damage over time multiplier

past prism
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When are they going to nerf refiner's bargain?

spice pecan
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surprised it's still alive

past prism
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you can stack up to 30 of them

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for 3000%

finite quail
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its sunday

tough cove
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im honestly surprised its taking them this long to hotfix it

finite quail
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dont expect changes today

tough cove
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its not a hard fix though

past prism
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abuse now I guess

tranquil sedge
tough cove
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again, its not a hard fix

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someone could log in and od the fix in a few minutes

crimson hearth
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i pob it ele hit is more dps thx

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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it's not gonna be fixed 😄

elfin shale
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Is that the one that gives you azurite when you get sulphite

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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:))

elfin shale
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oh lol

elder marlin
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Rip, then lock reforge smt for malev effect ig

tough cove
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i do find it funny that they specifically went through to nerf other stuff so that it couldnt be 100% and then miss one fo the biggest whoopsies

tranquil sedge
shrewd fiber
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can pure evasion be tanky?

finite quail
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PLEASE big flat life 🙏

tough cove
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yes

elder marlin
tough cove
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you can get enough defensive layers with evasion that your very rarely die ever

elder marlin
finite quail
tranquil sedge
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you'll have to make it work

tough cove
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mind you there will be times you hit the .1% chance that you get hit

crimson hearth
#

holy sht ele hit of spectrum is so much better even for mapping

tranquil sedge
#

evasion by itself alone is not 'tanky'
it only delays the inevitable

tranquil umbra
crimson hearth
#

im switching

shrewd fiber
#

is a bow build less tanky due to having no shield?

tough cove
#

but thats also the same issue with armor builds too

#

you have to have other layers on top or your gonna have a bad time

elder marlin
shrewd fiber
#

what other layers should i have?

finite quail
tough cove
#

bow builds are less tanky due to less ability to cram hp in their passive tree

elder marlin
shrewd fiber
#

also should i be worrying about "effective hit pool" on stuff like pob or poeninja, it seems like bow builds having dramatically lower of this number

crimson hearth
#

im using bow build not rly a problem so far

tranquil sedge
# elder marlin Oh

repost this to #1┃crafting-advice @lilac parcel

block mod with benchcraft -> slam -> slam -> prefixes cannot be changed + scour would work

its not the cheapest crafting method so im not sure, but if you don't wanna risk this item then its a safe way to try and get malev aura effect if you require it (hunter mod)

otherwise a settle method would be crafting multimod + dot multi + fire dot multi

tough cove
#

bow builds are gonna be squishy, you tank by not getting hit or killing stuff before they can hit you

finite quail
#

Welp time to buy a cowards trial for pref cant be changed

tranquil sedge
#

only thing that matters is 'max hit' and recovery

tough cove
#

your main tank is stuff to mititigate small hits that you occasionally take that arent really avoidable

#

the big stuff you shouldnt be getting hit by in the first place as a bow build

elder marlin
lilac parcel
tranquil sedge
#

and its also not really true

shrewd fiber
#

huh

tranquil sedge
crimson hearth
tough cove
#

max hit means how big a hit you can take, aka, what will one shot you. ehp is a meaningless stat that just means how big your hp pool is

elder marlin
dense rock
#

effective hit pool = how much dmg you need to take in a short time to die
max hit = how much dmg a single hit needs to do to kill you from full hp

elder marlin
shrewd fiber
#

got it

elder marlin
#

Im trully a gambler

eternal dawn
#

is phecia not a full league/season?

shrewd fiber
#

so bow builds may be squishier but are better at mapping due to clear? how would they perform in harvest

stoic horizon
elder marlin
#

94/87 with 15k phys max hit

tough cove
#

bow builds are usually fine in harvest

crimson hearth
tough cove
#

especially since unlikek other click to start mechanics, harvest has a start up delay

elder marlin
tough cove
#

so unlike say strongboxes, you dont get one shot cause your squish by starting the mechanic

#

bowers are wanders but way cheaper

elder marlin
#

Unless ur name is mfa, ur worst than wander

split maple
#

tbf bows are better early

tough cove
#

wand builds are great, but jesus the cost to build them is outrageous

split maple
#

and wand skills if you want defences are pretty much kboc

dense rock
#

imagine needing to do something yourself -Summoners everywhere

shrewd fiber
tranquil sedge
#

y restarting

elder marlin
finite quail
shrewd fiber
tough cove
#

the gauntlet is robbing me of my will to keep playing phrecia 2.0

#

the stupid enrage is outrageous

tranquil sedge
#

do u want to try to fix that before giving up on it?

hybrid harness
tranquil sedge
#

im sure ppl would be happy to help if u posted the build and had questions

tough cove
#

its awful in t16s

elder marlin
tough cove
#

because the enrage is stupidly strong

stoic horizon
finite quail
#

my bog shaman did not fail me Chad

elder marlin
tough cove
#

also some bosses should never ever have increased action speed

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
#

Unlike gambler with his crippling dept

eternal dawn
stoic horizon
#

endless hunger zooming in puddle form DivineOrbSad

shrewd fiber
#

basically im stuck at low budget on bog shaman and can barely clear white maps, medium budget i know it can cook but cant get there

#

just gonna reroll and try ranger now

tough cove
#

the triple bosses in vaal temple...

tranquil sedge
#

no harm in posting a pob link in one of the help channels or even here

tough cove
#

worst experience ever

tranquil sedge
#

maybe there's some easy fixes for your build

split palm
#

maps literally feel the same, but a bit more loot

keen veldt
#

I hope they extend p

tough cove
#

it very depends on your build though. if you can one shot bosses it feels fine. if you cant one shot bosses, espeically if your melee, bad times ahead

native token
#

î dont

#

melee is fine

elder marlin
#

Holy fk, i just 6l a cloak in 54 fusing

#

Im blessed

hybrid harness
#

I am fine with higher difficulty for better rewards, but if enrage is just difficulty without reward thats cringe. map mods maybe was enough

tough cove
#

thats my big issue with the act miniboss gauntlet

#

like if i got loot for all the bosses i just killed it would be great

#

but its just added tedium for 0 reward

hoary scarab
#

i liked the challenge cause i got rewarded with fun

eternal dawn
#

im running a Spark of the Nova build, is it possible to change my 20% quality spark into it

native token
#

i like the harder bosses in acts

#

its way to easy nowdays

tough cove
#

i dont because i despipse the campaign in the first place

shrewd fiber
spice pecan
#

don't use the regular "transfigure gem into a random trans gem of same color"

native token
#

@spice pecan i rerolled ssf

#

i coudnt stand trade xdd

spice pecan
#

so i can't really even play

native token
#

sadge

glass grotto
#

do gems lvl slower if they're in weapon swap

spice pecan
#

no

finite quail
#

no

glass grotto
#

sweet

elder marlin
shrewd fiber
#

20c rn

finite quail
#

prayge big cold

#

🙏

#

bruh

tough cove
#

best we can do is reflect

spice pecan
#

dang yo

tough cove
#

oh the ultimate troll lol

#

well can you reforge cold on that?

tranquil sedge
native token
#

btw xdd

spice pecan
#

wtf

#

unethical

glass grotto
#

why are frost blade builds grabbing the frenzy charge nodes on the very bottom? cant u just use blood rage?

lilac parcel
#

@tranquil sedge what if i would just continue with recombinations and strive towards a 5 mod recomb ?

icy zinc
#

game lagged so hard it forgot to output "death"

#

so technically alive

tranquil sedge
#

nice find

tough cove
#

via gain charge per x seconds on chest

spice pecan
#

was about to say yeah you usually combo it with charge per x eldritch mod on chest

glass grotto
#

true ty

crisp plinth
#

hm do i go dex flicker or some other meme now

glass grotto
#

im suprised more ppl arent just grabbing the endurance charge passives and calling it a day but i guess it doesnt really help for bosses

tranquil sedge
glass grotto
#

also these dudes dont got the eldritch implicit 🤷‍♂️

finite quail
#

NO I DIDNT NOTICE

#

THE PREFIX FILLED

#

FUCK YOU ES

#

bruh now I gotta annull this piece of shit

#

anulled the %life killing myself

icy zinc
shrewd fiber
tough cove
#

yeah bog is definitely a second build imo

icy zinc
#

aristocrat is the endgoal frfr

#

1000 str/dex/int

shrewd fiber
#

thats what it feels like yeah

icy zinc
#

with 100k accuracy

#

more or less that translates to 667% increased attack speed with foulborn dreamfeather as well

crisp plinth
#

can i make poe trade only use base values without quality influence?

tranquil sedge
icy zinc
#

item quality max 0 probably

tranquil sedge
#

let me get my source for that one sec

crisp plinth
#

damn quality max 0 works now

#

nice ty

tranquil sedge
#

or that i guess

tranquil sedge
#

things with quality that don't affect ur search mods but stilll have >0 qual

elder marlin
crisp plinth
#

ah

tranquil sedge
#

lemme find what i was lookin for for ya

leaden gust
#

rares are definitely buying juice from their local stereoid dealer. no shot these rares are normal

shrewd fiber
hard cliff
#

@tranquil sedge
tier 10 originator yellow map got me

#

too many freaking mobs + keeper buffed crap

#

wew

leaden gust
#

mfw when a mob in a t2 map smacks through 4k hp res capped with 1 hit

hard cliff
#

profit from 3 maps so far

icy zinc
tranquil sedge
hard cliff
#

😩

hard cliff
crisp plinth
#

thanks

frigid wedge
#

pira how is ur shield throe

icy zinc
#

phrecia loves gotchaing you

hard cliff
tranquil sedge
hard cliff
#

the boss damage is insane

#

If he stands still lol

tranquil sedge
#

it'll add up

hard cliff
#

yeah I got like 30 chaos I dunno if I should upgrade now or wait for more and spend these on idiols

#

I'm good for about tier 9~ maps right now

tranquil sedge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hard cliff
#

So true

#

I'll try to get at least one atlas thing to 100%

#

prob harvest

tranquil sedge
#

we love harvest

finite quail
tranquil sedge
spice pecan
#

you there! local!

icy zinc
#

you definitely need like cold damage(enemy slower) with haste and onslaught to feel good over packs

tranquil sedge
#

like the one that just gives u a grove spawn in map?

#

and how much is lifeforce worth

hard cliff
finite quail
tranquil sedge
#

i am telling u this so u can look it up

hard cliff
tranquil sedge
#

and decide if u wanna do it

#

yellow is most profit
but all 3 are still profit

spice pecan
tranquil sedge
#

ur not going to be running crop rota that early i think

tranquil sedge
#

maybe a few idols that benefit harvest (more lifeforce, more t3 monsters, lifeforce dupe mods), even 1-mod idols that are cheap are fine

#

and then chuck in 1 harvest scarab, alch and fuckin go

#

maybe chisel also if its worth

#

probably worth yea chisel alch and go

frigid wedge
hard cliff
frigid wedge
#

why u need uber lab for a mark skill

hard cliff
#

I need the last one to buff the crap out of it sorry

#

I am using it obv

#

and it works very well

split maple
hard cliff
#

Unintentional aspect of my build

All mosnters are permantly covered in creepy ass spider webs all over their model

tranquil sedge
#

is that what that white stuff is

#

i see

full fossil
#

what gem should i use in my 5link for arma brand? i got arma brand/ignite prolif/creulty and combustion

elder marlin
full fossil
#

or should i be using other supports than combustion

tranquil sedge
finite quail
full fossil
#

its black and white

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

the image is clearly only white

full fossil
hard cliff
#

I'm gonna try to target sacred grove + Expedition tujen wish me luck lol

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
hard cliff
#

No

tranquil sedge
#

herro

hard cliff
#

Which harvest scarab

#

I have never used chisels and I am not starting now

tranquil sedge
#

the most basic ass one that spawns a grove

hard cliff
#

I am getting 100% grove chance

tranquil sedge
#

or you can do that too sure

#

then just work on idols that benefit u like those listed mod examples

#

spend an hour running maps nonstop just for that

tranquil sedge
blissful zodiac
#

hey uh

tranquil sedge
#

4c for extra 20 quant on your map is big when ur running harvest

blissful zodiac
#

is aristocrat good?

hard cliff
#

fuck it harvest ritual

blissful zodiac
#

cause ion really care about paladin

finite quail
#

Time for big money

#

(nevermind)

full fossil
#

what 5link should i use for arma brand levelling/maps i got cruelty/armabrand and ignite prolif

#

what do i put in my last 2

full fossil
stoic horizon
#

yo astramentis is worth actual money

#

ig lance promoted aristocrat well enough

icy zinc
#

this is being very pricegated though

frigid wedge
#

blame jung

elder marlin
#

Also guys what do u think is jackpot from 3rd edict mystery box ie gambling?

dusky void
#

can mines trigger herald effects?

frigid wedge
elder marlin
finite quail
#

the mines are not you

#

the mines are not using heralds

hard cliff
#

Am I my totems keeper ?

#

18 strentgth on my gloves is holding my build together UHM

hard oar
#

Is there a way to be able to delete those? I picked them up but don't wanna go into that particular part of poe (yet at least), but I can't delete them or put them in the specific locker or my stash

spice pecan
#

nope

tranquil sedge
#

go into a zone and drop it

full fossil
spice pecan
#

i don't think you can even drop them?

tranquil sedge
#

you can

full fossil
#

yes

#

you can

spice pecan
#

idk i run em

split maple
#

you cannot drop in hideout

#

or town

#

you can drop anywhere else

spice pecan
#

i see

blissful zodiac
finite quail
strong totem
#

You can drop them

hard oar
#

Ah, thanks!

#

I've tried to throw it out in the town and my character's like "I'll be needing this". Time to dump all of them in some random map kek

gritty epoch
#

Also hide them in filter

hard oar
#

Oh, I did not think of that

#

time t find them and forever drop 'em xD

full fossil
#

what 5link should i use for arma brand levelling/maps i got cruelty/armabrand and ignite prolif
what do i put in my last 2

true falcon
#

If I convert 100% phys to fire, and 100% phys to chaos, that's like double damage right?

split palm
#

still not a single div is crazy

elfin shale
hard oar
#

Decided to hide all the contracts, yet they still show as a drop 😐

split palm
#

it's 50/50

#

which makes sense lmao

elfin shale
#

If that was a thing the only build that'd exist would be stacking phys conversion to every element

split palm
icy zinc
#

hiding a quest contract

hard oar
#

Oh, so the "special" ones won't be hidden, that sucks

coarse prawn
#

There are way to hide them

#

Never visit rogue habour

hard oar
# icy zinc hiding a quest contract

If I could stuff them somewhere till I want to do that particular part, I'd be happy to keep them, but I have no intention of doing those, and they're just inventory clutter lol

limpid prairie
#

People i have ES leech but i dont see the leech happening
is it cause im level 60

finite quail
#

6 maps in a row with 6 ore deposits each and 16% conver to lost shipment

#

but no lost shipments

#

sadge

hard oar
#

And I've already visited the harbour, I don't like unfinished !'s on the side lolol

empty bronze
#

i feel like momentum's movement speed buff doesnt last long enough to be useful

pulsar dune
#

Yeah

slim island
#

plus you have to be completely still

pulsar dune
#

It's mostly just used as a slightly better faster attacks

#

Or with faster attacks

elfin shale
#

Dont you need like 4.5+ aps for it to be better by itself

empty bronze
#

yeah its clunky faster attacks

tranquil sedge
#

yea its just to attack a bit faster

finite quail
tranquil sedge
#

the movespeed is incidental and ignorable mostly

finite quail
#

gamba won

elfin shale
#

Movespeed huge for campaign Pogott

empty bronze
#

im just saying they should buff the movespeed part to be actually useful

pulsar dune
#

Yeah probably

empty bronze
#

like either make it faster or last longer

pulsar dune
#

Same with close combat realistically

empty bronze
#

dont really mind either way

#

could be cool if it made you really fast for a split second

#

chat

#

i found something weird

spice pecan
#

is this like, syndrome encampment simulacrum

#

cuz there's a spot on the right side of the bridge where you can go under the terrain

limpid prairie
#

I live in a dyspotian country
i cant open PoB links cause cloud flare is closed

#

:(

spice pecan
#

might have to have someone else open the pob and send you the link

#

so you can just direct import into pob

limpid prairie
#

i cant even open

#

links copy pasting
itll have to be

#

the raw numbers thingy

tranquil sedge
#

you can still open pob so you could use the raw import code ye

limpid prairie
#

still

#

dystopian

tranquil sedge
#

mm

finite quail
limpid prairie
#

3 life flasks
newbie

split maple
#

legstart idols solved 😄

finite quail
frigid wedge
limpid prairie
#

krangle it (this is not actual advice)

finite quail
#

its not even qualitied

uneven gust
#

⌛ 2️⃣ 👆🏿 🥩

tranquil sedge
#

time to finger meat?

uneven gust
finite quail
#

sand number one flesh?

frigid wedge
icy zinc
uneven gust
tranquil sedge
#

dunno bout idols but its a generically good mapping strategy in general

icy zinc
#

probably worst still up to date thing ever

tranquil sedge
#

good money and fun to do

split maple
#

more bosses = more idols

uneven gust
#

And more fishing rods

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
finite quail
#

enraged exiles?

#

no thanks

split maple
#

then gambaing idols

uneven gust
#

Does strand have 2 hailrakes?

finite quail
#

no

uneven gust
#

Oh my God somone got frog roll on their map

finite quail
#

it has two bandits

uneven gust
#

Steelmage got 100% increased character size

#

Btw map mods are timed like necrosettlers

pseudo axle
#

Gotta say that the gauntlet-like nonsense they added to this event had killed my desire to play in it.

uneven gust
#

I ran 6 ossuaries with sea witches only

spice pecan
frigid wedge
#

amazing

spice pecan
#

if the gauntlet mods weren't in, i would suffer thru the occasional bluescreen

#

tbh

uneven gust
spice pecan
#

but i spent like 15 minutes fighting malachai only to bsod at like 5% hp

pseudo axle
#

Yeah idk I hate campaign why do I need to deal with 2 enraged hailrake

#

To access a one month league

spice pecan
#

ngl, i actually kind of like poe1 campaign

#

except like three zones

pseudo axle
#

That's just kicking me in the vaals

uneven gust
#

You oboe rake is optional right

split maple
#

gets easier after it

split maple
pseudo axle
#

Not if you want your quicksilver flask

whole bluff
#

ranger just blew through all of it for me

uneven gust
#

Describe your build using only standard emoji

pseudo axle
#

Right but I dont want to deal with extra bullshit to access cool stuff

#

The campaign is a chore already

whole bluff
#

atm I am being disappointed in overgeared overlvld lvl 72 nulls inclination wildspeaker in act9, but I never felt like anything was difficult, I was just either glass or not stomping quite as hard as I could

broken oak
#

I don't have the time or desire to play thru all this hard stuff can ggg just give me a mageblood in coast or something please

pseudo axle
#

Its that glass feeling that is annoying

hard oar
#

I'm finding the campaign a faceroll so far, in regarding to bosses.

stoic horizon
uneven gust
#

Vaal ice nova low life accuracy stacker?

stoic horizon
uneven gust
#

🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🗡️ 🤺 🫃🏿

stoic horizon
#

eye of winter mines energyblade

uneven gust
#

Oh try that with glacial cascade

#

Shit slaps

hard oar
#

🏹 🐺 kek

stoic horizon
spice pecan
#

which of the ice mine skills is like giga screen cancer

native abyss
spice pecan
#

is it icicle mines/of fanning, or ice shot mines

stoic horizon
whole bluff
spice pecan
#

nah, gc mines is nowhere near screen cancer

stoic horizon
#

icicle mines are not very screen intensive as well

earnest sapphire
#

if i ignore someone can they still buy from my async trade

pseudo axle
whole bluff
#

not as good clear as some stuff, but you should probably use plaguebearer to fix that (I've been lazy)

charred condor
#

If I use a blessed orb on a rare +1 minion helm, does it turn into a +2

stoic horizon
#

is the + lvls an implicit

charred condor
#

And if it does is it guaranteed?

charred condor
icy zinc
#

enraged exiles and enraged syndicates from betrayal

#

hell yuh brotha

spice pecan
#

blessed orb only changes implicit values

stoic horizon
stoic horizon
split maple
#

divine orb wont work too, right? its separate tiers for +1 and +2 iirc

#

alt hover item

pseudo axle
#

Yeah that +1 cant be changed with currency

#

Plus its a local +1

split maple
#

it technicaly can be - corrupt and use tainted divine teardrop

pseudo axle
#

Only good for socketed gems

split maple
pseudo axle
#

Read above

split maple
#

to minion is global?

pseudo axle
#

Helmet mods arent

#

Usually

#

Wand ones are

split maple
#

to level of all minion gems sure sounds global to me

#

its not a veiled mod

spice pecan
#

helms don't say socketed minion skills i thought

split maple
#

its a generic ass global +minion

pseudo axle
#

They don't?

#

Did they change it

finite quail
#

LMAO WHAT

split maple
#

unlike aoe, etc veiled mods which are local

spice pecan
#

gg

finite quail
#

holy gg

split maple
pseudo axle
#

That's what, 40 div?

#

Gratz

stoic horizon
steel light
#

@tranquil sedge this is more unpredicatable than stock kek

tranquil sedge
#

l0l

spice pecan
#

assuming ppl are actually buying at more than 1c lmao

icy zinc
#

chisels moment

steel light
icy zinc
#

meanwhile entire tab of idols dont sell for 1 chaos

#

eh well

#

soon, prune chisel, soon.

crimson hearth
#

is strongbox farming still good

steel light
#

also this was 6hrs ago bla

finite quail
eternal dawn
#

the build im trying to follow uses this, does the coins submitted matter?

finite quail
#

actually its not even being bought very much in the market rn

#

not much demand

spice pecan
civic charm
#

How much Dps do you need for Uber elder?

spice pecan
#

timeless jewels are a pain in the ass to explain, but easy to learn

steel light
finite quail
pseudo axle
steel light
pseudo axle
#

Some seeds are worth mirrors if they have been used in powerful builds before or currently

#

Very rarely but yeah

#

Always worth to check

spice pecan
#

the 3.26 gg timeless jewel for mercbot was like 1.2mir

#

i just settled on my 110d one SADGE

whole bluff
#

trio time with 2.4k life, capped res, 75% spell dodge, 61% evade chance, excessive dmg, giga clear

spice pecan
#

it only saved me one passive point anyway

whole bluff
#

this better just blow up

pseudo axle
#

That's how I felt buying valako jewels this league

#

250 div down lol

eternal dawn
#

its hard to follow a build when it comes to jewls

whole bluff
jagged raven
#

so ppl r farming refiners bargain to farm mirrors like ezpz?

pulsar dune
#

Yep

#

Raw mirror printing

jagged raven
#

damn

icy zinc
#

oh neat, just 6c for this

jagged raven
#

sadly im too poor to even buy one

pulsar dune
#

More mirrors than affliction (but fewer divines probably)

spice pecan
#

makes me sad im not playing

#

still need my first raw mirror

stoic horizon
#

wont that just devalue mirrors

split maple
karmic gust
#

well you get shards not actual raw mirrors from kingsmarch

fossil mural
#

Look at stock for gift to the goddes

#

Litetally 1 for sale

stoic horizon
#

noone running special labs

fossil mural
#

Imprisoned Monsters in your Maps have at least 1 Essence at the highest possible tier

This doesnt stack right

spice pecan
karmic gust
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based on the wording it shouldnt but who knows

fossil mural
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Lmao remnant of corruption mod is still in

spice pecan
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it probably just drops vaals

fossil mural
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We live in society

split maple
spice pecan
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i tried to hide remnants of corruption on mouse cursor and it didn't work SADGE

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i managed to smuggle 3.25 runes for a little while tho, i think i still have some in std

karmic gust
spice pecan
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nah, i was playing other stuff