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native token
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if you build cant deal with all map mods its apperently a bad build.

rancid peak
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You dont have to when the free risk mods have excluded modifiers, but it REALLY isn't that hard to run all mods excluding Valdo Maps

whole bluff
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Ah, risks add 2 mods now? I forgot

cerulean breach
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it's probably gonna be 1 in campaign 1-2 in white, 1-3 in yellows, maaybe 1-4 in reds?

hoary scarab
whole bluff
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That seems reasonable yeah

split maple
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Risk adds 2 mods and now has limit=1 sadge

tranquil sedge
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wardloop will probably outright brick on those maps yea

the coc stuff eh i guess depends on if you can survive the dps loss from going down a breakpoint maybe?

golden moat
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how fast are we gonna be able to farm safehouses with idols? i didnt rly play with that much l;ast time

split maple
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But like last league when risk abyss was meta I think it was pretty well tested which builds can handle 2-4 risks Worth of juice in t16.5

whole bluff
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So best case scenario, you get maybe 4 risk in vaaled maps

split maple
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T17 is tad worse

hoary scarab
split maple
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Yea you are misremembering

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They also made risk rare as fuck, like close to woker rarity

cerulean breach
hoary scarab
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🫡

cerulean breach
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this takes like 2 seconds to google my dude

tranquil sedge
hoary scarab
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i googled in my brain but i dont have a neuralink yet

split maple
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There is pretty big difference between risks in like harvest when it's rly doable and risks in like invigo blight

hoary scarab
rancid peak
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You can get phys reflect immunity from a Pantheon and Flask, Full freeze immunity from another Pantheon, Ele reflect immunity from an awakened gem that really isnt that hard to get, action speed altering immunity from Garb + AG, These are arguably the most trivial mods

tranquil sedge
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your build is going to be fully immune to all mods right
and run juiced t17s

split maple
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Worst thing to solve by risks is recovery, but these are excluded

tranquil sedge
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coz if it isn't, it's a shit build

cerulean breach
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I like the idea of bog witch but idk if it's strong enough early on / gets tanky enough (sure lots of HP but dissolution and idk about other defenses)

split maple
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So like t16 risks won't be too issue

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T17 tho gonna be stress

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Due to mob types

tranquil sedge
cerulean breach
tranquil sedge
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its just the bosses that are gonna be rough in t17s

split maple
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Yea that's what I mean

tranquil sedge
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and those ball lightning mobs

cerulean breach
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unless they sphaghetti shit and the risk scarabs will also follow the reduced pool

split maple
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And burrowers

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And goats

cerulean breach
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maybe I just do manaforged arrows whisperer

tranquil sedge
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oh

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those

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ehhhhhhh

split maple
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You know the watery mobs which hide

tranquil sedge
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ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rancid peak
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then dont run t17s, and run 16.5s

split maple
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T16.5 risked is way way easier than t17

tranquil sedge
hoary scarab
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just run delve with extra area mods

split maple
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But issue is t16.5 is ass this league

hoary scarab
split maple
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Except for blight

tranquil sedge
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the hard part of t17s is one or two enemy types, and the boss

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the maps themselves aren't particularly hard lol

split maple
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Goats are traumatic for me srev

rancid peak
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Layouts for 16.5s are just better, that's it. Plus bosses are IMMENSLY easier

split maple
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I do Glass builds

tranquil sedge
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the bosses are harder in t17s but u also get a lot more from doing them i mean thats half the point of running those maps

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but even if you ignore the boss entirely it still is going to be worth using t17s for some strategies

split maple
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Like last league I was doing 4risk abyss no issue in t16.5, while semijuicy t17 were issue sometimes

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But okay that's 4k phys Max hit gaming

tranquil sedge
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like if ur doing harvest in phrecia and ur not buying t17 maps to do it in, that'd be a joke

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or at the very least 8mod t16.5s

split maple
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T16.5 in general kinda sucky now

tranquil sedge
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u could skip the boss entirely and it'd still be worth buying those maps

split maple
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Too hard to roll

tranquil sedge
split maple
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Like 20c per 100% scarb

tranquil sedge
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and i bet its gonna be expensive

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might as well buy t17s at that point

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skip the boss if u cant do it

split maple
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60-80c and exalts for 140% scarb

tranquil sedge
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ye meanwhile ziggurat and whatever prob <40c or some shit

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and better map mod rolls coz no t16 pool

split maple
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Like t17 mod changes rly fucked over t16.5

tranquil sedge
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along with map effect

split maple
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It's only good for map farm (coz you cannot drop t17 in t17) and invigo blight (coz layout)

tranquil sedge
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right after phrecia with its giga map effect

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-# and free risk scarabs

tranquil sedge
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legion too

wispy comet
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i hope 3.28 is finally the death of t17s

finite quail
rancid peak
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Im thinking EBlade Whisperer now

finite quail
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GGG releases T18 maps

heady cliff
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T19 maps would be nice

stoic horizon
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t20 maps Pogott

hoary scarab
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fuck it, skip to t30

whole bluff
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T127

split maple
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But I don't to them ghosted conflict strats

stoic horizon
whole bluff
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I ran a bunch of harvest in t16. I guess no pain no gain

tranquil sedge
hoary scarab
tranquil sedge
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in trade if map prices are okay i dont see why u wouldn't consider buying 8mod t16.5s

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not necessarily legion specifically but just in general for strats u might otherwise already run on 8mod t16s

whole bluff
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I just ran t16.5 rolled for like 33%+ pack size

split maple
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Yea I don't think juicing legions except with that ghost stuff has rly good returns

tranquil sedge
split maple
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Kinda squeezing water outta stone, but that everything this league tbf

whole bluff
tranquil sedge
split maple
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40+ in general yea

whole bluff
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Most of my t16.5 had 40+

split maple
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T17 can hit close to 50 but not rly

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Hard to get meaningful packsize

tranquil sedge
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u just wont be able to chisel the 8mods but you can buy with deli layers if u want so makes up for a bit of it

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and it should be noticably cheaper than good layout t16.5s

split maple
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What was the usual regex for harvest t17 8mods this league, 55?

whole bluff
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But I needed:

  • Tears challenge / Witnessed secrets guardians challenge
  • Altars challenge
  • Map quant challenge
    And harvest seemed decent while pumping quant with mortal frags
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And also originator map mods challenge

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So harvest was added to that, not the other way around

tranquil sedge
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if u got a reason to run 16.5s yea dont let us stop you

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but if it was just to try and get more packsize, 8mod (deli optional for more quant) t16s aint bad is all

whole bluff
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Makes sense

golden moat
whole bluff
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These are my remaining challenges

tranquil sedge
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nb

split maple
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almost done 😄

whole bluff
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So:

  1. 2k quant
  2. flash breach, shit defence in map breach
  3. Red altars
  4. new bosses maven invitation
  5. New ubers
  6. Old ubers
  7. EGGs
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And another

tranquil sedge
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2k?

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is that not 20k

whole bluff
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Ah, yup

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So like 50-100 maps the way I run them atm

split maple
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this league i proved to myself i am a wuss

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i rly cannot into juiced Cata without actually immortal build

whole bluff
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I failed maps for that challenge a bunch of times

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I didn't care, just threw more maps. Did get angry but didn't stop because of that

tranquil sedge
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cata is one of the harder bosses 😄

split maple
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phase cata once ok, phase cata twice ok, die to some bullshit lose hh buffs waste 5 more portals

tranquil sedge
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cata and abom are definitely harder ones

whole bluff
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I think I failed abom 3 times, fortress 2 times, lycia 1+ time, secrets guardians maybe a total of 4 times

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Uthred 1-2 times

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Learn the hard way

split maple
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citadel is tricky since no one runs it enough to be used to it

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and it has a lot of slows

whole bluff
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Yeah

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Failed 2+ feared, 2+ cortex, etc

tranquil sedge
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the layout is fucking bad jfc

split maple
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i realized this league tho that i rly dont mind citadels for harvest

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since you can just run the outer loop

tranquil sedge
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brb some time

whole bluff
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The league uber maven was released, I sustained my failed attempts with the profits from my successful attempts, and did maybe 30x 30min+ fights

split maple
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full clearing that shit tho 😄 never

whole bluff
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I probably did 100+ attempts at my worst aul

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Until I got the rhythm to flame dash in sync not to get hit by his whirl lul

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Softcore for life

hoary scarab
fossil mural
hoary scarab
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just drop progen every attempt

split maple
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i did one umaven this league, droped ok rolled grace, didnt think of her again

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i have bad enough luck with basic maven

round zenith
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I dont understand, I started the game up after a few months of not playing and my whole build is broken, simply does not work.
Cant even enable Rhoa mount, or Herald of Thunder at all. WTF ?????

haughty ermine
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lol

round zenith
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I do have all requirements, simply does not work

haughty ermine
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rhoa mount

round zenith
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yay sorry 😄

fickle glen
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Slaying with my poorly built Ranger

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45 to go

robust dew
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How hard is lost unity to obtain in a regula trade league early on? Are they expensive early? Rare?

whole bluff
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Plus some builds were a bit of requiring skill that quickly faded after playing

stoic horizon
split maple
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but it was meta in keepers

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phrecia doesnt have elementalist, so i would bet it wont be as popular (it wont be as strong for sure)

robust dew
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tyty!

fossil mural
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TRUST

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Surely not 6 mirrors cost

split maple
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kinda funny you can exactly see on plot when majority of elementalists switched from leaguestarters to heralder

fossil mural
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You can also probably find a youtube guide that talks about it on the day

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Fucking hivemind

stoic horizon
hoary scarab
fickle glen
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Why does my explosive arrow detailed stats say it fires 9 arrows but also fires 8 projectiles?

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What sorcery is this

fossil mural
narrow gull
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i am gonna play MFA for event anyone else

stoic horizon
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hf

split maple
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just dont swap to it before indigon and +arrow quiver and it will be ok

narrow gull
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you will have good gold pool

stoic horizon
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even conner doesn't want to leaguestart it

narrow gull
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trust me its the best

stoic horizon
ancient yoke
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guys MFA best build rue told me

split maple
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if you do mfa before indigon you deserve leaguestarting it kek

stoic horizon
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but tbh im doing a masochist leaguestart too

narrow gull
brazen vector
split maple
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but like ranger has so many comfy legstarters possible that i rly idk why anyone would want to force mfa early (or even kboc, tho kboc at least is B tier before indigon and not F tier like mfa)

ancient yoke
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anyone got good mamba POB ? which i can play on day 4-5 ?

stoic horizon
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mamba with no pf is ehhh

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you need prolif

split maple
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prolly forced into foulborn gloves for prolif

stoic horizon
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ye

split maple
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or ouch binos

hoary scarab
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foulborn embalmer prolly still gonna be pretty cheap

ancient yoke
whole bluff
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Foulborn embalmer is kinda fine I think. My concern would be, are there any ascendancies from the area between scion, shadow, and duelist, that are actually good with low tolerance poison?

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In phrecia

hoary scarab
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prolly aristocrat ngl

fossil mural
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Click mamba

fossil mural
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To dot cap even harder

hoary scarab
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cap

whole bluff
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Or paladin? If you can keep relics up

brazen vector
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@split maple are you affiliated with the esm bot on discord?

hoary scarab
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he is the esm bot on discord

brazen vector
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Ooh

split maple
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what

brazen vector
silent leaf
brazen vector
signal hawk
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I wonder how many zombies I can fit on puppeteer

brazen vector
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50

native abyss
brazen vector
elder marlin
brazen vector
modern zinc
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I feel like my multistrike isn't working on my spectres?

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they're attacking pretty slowsly

fossil mural
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Maybe they are so fast your eye cant percieve it

native abyss
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damn good counter

brazen vector
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Imagine getting speed blitzed by your own spectres

signal hawk
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I think it depends if the skill of the spectre can be multistriked?

fossil mural
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I imagine yes

modern zinc
fossil mural
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Otherwise people would multistrike spells or smth

brazen vector
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Multistruck

modern zinc
steel light
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are there scarabs or are they usable in mini league? or every maps are fixed by idols?

split maple
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Anyways I think this is the minimum gear level I would consider swaping to mfa. DPS after 4.5sec ramp due to Storm rain needing arrows in ground (if you don't have +arrow quiver 10sec+! Important): https://pobb.in/I96sM_vSYXJz

split maple
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Idols replace just atlas tree

signal hawk
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There are idols for scarabs even

lapis lava
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Lvl 100 league start Pog

signal hawk
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More drops

split maple
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Don't legstart mfa is my point

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Swap to it like day 3-4 in ssf

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Trade maybe day 2

fossil mural
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Are there idols to make improved offerings always drop

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Actually should see poedb

modern zinc
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I'm gonna league start spectres

whole bluff
split maple
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tho maybe its easier to swap to mfa in ssf than in trade since indigon isnt expensive there kek

whole bluff
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Or no, that would mean getting vaal one was trolling

split maple
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sure can, just if you drop mageblood in yellows again make sure to remove balbala 😄

rancid peak
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Scav league start ig 😄

hoary scarab
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just copy it and change some stuff to not look suspicious

brazen vector
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Ill leaguestart either vaal architect or puppyteer, havent decided yet x_x

split maple
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and do check ramp, its janky conner kinda build

elder marlin
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can lightning strike shotgun?

gritty epoch
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Sort of?

hoary scarab
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you can hit with proj and melee component

gritty epoch
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Melee and projectile can hit same target iirc

fossil mural
elder marlin
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how abt molten strike?

gritty epoch
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What's the DPS with arcane cloak down tho

fossil mural
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Idk about normal molten

brazen vector
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How meme would it be to go VLS architect

split maple
# split maple and do check ramp, its janky conner kinda build

basically at first shot you are kinda 0dps, at 2 seconds you have a tad under ~50% of pobed dmg output, at 4.5 seconds you finished ramping storm rain of conduit. then each second more is mana cost ramp until you hit the point where skill cost is bigger than your mana pool (in ballpark of billion dps), but you need to make sure not to hit that point since well then you need to wait to deramp before shooting. for faster arrow ramp but less ceiling dps swap elemental damage with attacks to inspiration in storm rain

split maple
fossil mural
split maple
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yea its rly that kinda build

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like for clear at this gear lvl you maybe have 1-3mil dps

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just single target gets ridiculus at 4.5sec point

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okay maybe 10mil clear if you stay semi ramped

elder marlin
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how rare is aegis aurora?

pulsar dune
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T0 afaik

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ah nop, T2

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well rolled can still be pricey

onyx adder
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Yea its t2, theyre not super hard to get in ssf but u wouldnt plan for one in 3 weeks unless u wanted to nolife

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In trade u just pay some fraction of a div after day 2

tight plinth
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i always thought it was at least t1

onyx adder
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Nop

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Ive got a tab of em in ssf standard

tight plinth
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i dont think ive dropped one exaltThink

onyx adder
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They go ding on my loot filter its not my fault

split maple
tight plinth
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my biggest drop is an HH

onyx adder
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I got one from fucking gwennen of all things a league or two ago

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Looking for day 1 crafting bases

tight plinth
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why gwennen not popular anymore, did they nerf her?

onyx adder
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Who gets uniques from gwennen in 2025

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Yea nerfed to shit

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Its like chance orb odds now or some garbage

tight plinth
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there was a time when every other day there was someone posting getting an hh or mageblood on her

fossil mural
tight plinth
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chance orb chance lmao

fossil mural
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She has been repeatedly nerfed psure? Directly and indirectly

tight plinth
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i dont interact with exped so ive no idea

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but im planning on doing exped this phrecia kek

split maple
fossil mural
misty schooner
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so with tier lists being published on fater rate then you can watch them. How much do you guys think Indigo will be going for day1-2 😄

split maple
barren river
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100d

rough tulip
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guya, how bait is starting behemoth after the changes

robust dew
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since penance brand scales of cast speed, does increased action speed directly scale penance brand or does it not work like that?

barren river
warm musk
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Can anyone improve my self cook aristocrat build? This might be even just be pobb warrioring at this point. https://pobb.in/B51LI9Du51Lx

split maple
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so more cast speed, action speed, etc... will make you throw brands faster, but wont make them activate faster so you dont get more dmg

robust dew
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aah i see, thank you mate, appreciate it.

rough tulip
robust dew
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was considering going penance brand surfcaster later on, think it should still be good, but probably wont be going for selfchill then

rough tulip
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even if action speed doesnt affect brand activation, it affects everything else to make it feel smoother to play

robust dew
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shouldnt something like this make a massive difference for penance brands clear in maps tho?

pastel crystal
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wat r people league starting on marauder

split maple
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if you have source of explodeys that cares about shock (so impulsa, foulborn respite) kinda?

rough tulip
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double explody respite gonna be ungodly expensive

split maple
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i have two but cannot use them :/

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game just crashes when i use it on heralder

rough tulip
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oh yeah, my pc was screaming bloody murder aswell

dawn silo
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I am probably not the first to ask this but time zone calculations isn’t my strong suit. The event starts in 1 day and 10 hours right?

plucky bison
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100% uptime vaal bv possible this phrecia?

robust dew
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you guys think single explode (shock version) bereks are gonna be very expensive too?

dawn silo
rough tulip
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single should be fine, but its gonna depend on the population we get for the event

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try to snatch one quick cause many will grab the chests and dip

dawn silo
robust dew
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ima be honest im not sure which builds were playing bereks last league

dawn silo
brazen vector
rough tulip
dawn silo
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Oh I am part of it but I do still have some left over hope in humanity

karmic gust
tight plinth
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it was too good not to get

dawn silo
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With elementalist and inquis gone, the ring might be less popular then.

split maple
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you just need conflux for it to be usable, no?

karmic gust
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just shock bereks with the gloves is still very good

split maple
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so ammy slot

dawn silo
tight plinth
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its easy to fit in a shock or ignite in the build somewhere

dawn silo
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But you also want big AoE scaling no?

robust dew
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oh i forgot about the aoe part

misty schooner
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I just now pray that FUBGUN will come up with build which doesnt have Indigo so the price will go down as most people will follow his hyped build 😄

split pagoda
robust dew
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so my plan is to go exsang/reap mines surfcaster, once i have enough currency im considering swapping to penance brand, but since the miner version is already a godtier mapper & bosser, i do wonder if penance brand wlll actually feel better? like exsang offscreens like crazy already

dawn silo
rough tulip
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if u wanna run indigon this league, you are in for a rude awakening

misty schooner
pulsar dune
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yea indigon is giga meta

dawn silo
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I am going to run MFA, so indigon here I come

rough tulip
misty schooner
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I will go with KBOC to later swithc to MFA 😄

tight plinth
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indigon will be expensive regardless if fubgun was planning on it or not

pulsar dune
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many ppl want to play MFA

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since it's impossible in normal leagues

thin leaf
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I think my brain is bricked, I put on Gruthkul's pelt in camp and was wondering why my auras werent working 😂

dawn silo
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Well I expect 40div + on day 2-3

split pagoda
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is there even any reason to swap to mfa

dawn silo
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So might just self farm it

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Not really

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But I like it more

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And it’s a dead build

rough tulip
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mfa is just the lazy mapper version

dawn silo
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That you can only play here

rough tulip
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and it looks funny

pulsar dune
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the dexstack kboc is not going to work on standard either

split pagoda
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I remember last phrecia sushi hated mfa so much xd

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all the hype and it just felt bad

dawn silo
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MFA was so fun for me

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But running exiles with it was rough

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Might just print scarabs again

misty schooner
rough tulip
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what was the scarab farm idol setup like, been too long

split pagoda
robust dew
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https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl77970/character/Lagosaurus-4704/PohxJelkMaxxing?i=1&search=skills%3DPenance%2BBrand%2Bof%2BDissipation Guys has anyone played penance brand before and knows if these damage numbers are actually accurate or if pob is just bad at calculating penance brand damage in general? Seems like insane gear, 3m dps feels a bit odd

dawn silo
split pagoda
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like mfa is always just gonna feel worse than kboc in every way except dps

split maple
split pagoda
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so unless ur valdoing I don't see the point

dawn silo
split maple
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but yea if you dont need single target its way less ergonomic

rough tulip
split maple
dawn silo
split maple
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its rly ass display

robust dew
split maple
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pob it

rough tulip
split maple
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inquis do 50x instead kek

robust dew
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oh i put it in pob now and it was a bit different yeah

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so 20 stages is max?

whole bluff
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Can you find tears in t17?

rough tulip
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no

dawn silo
whole bluff
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Then I'm stuck in t16.5 a while longer

dawn silo
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Tears?

whole bluff
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Originator stuff

dawn silo
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Ahhh

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Yeah no

whole bluff
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Hmm. I'm not going home after school today, and tomorrow I have a meeting just before phrecia. I might not make 40/40 before

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Or 37 even

tawdry olive
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damn, school.... i thought all poe gamers were ancient fossils

split maple
whole bluff
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I am doing adult school

split maple
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if you have 2 brands on enemy both contribute, so it should in 99% of cases be 20 even with swiftbrand

tawdry olive
split maple
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but some folks mess up

misty schooner
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When we will have patch notes today or tomorrow ?

hoary scarab
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sunday

umbral crag
robust dew
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am i blind, where do i find the activation rate of penance brand

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is it hit rate?

rough tulip
hoary scarab
jagged raven
gentle finch
misty schooner
split maple
robust dew
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ooh

jagged raven
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herald of agony > ANCESTRAL COMMANDER BALLISTA right?

gentle finch
split maple
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again for 2x brand on enemy, you reach stages activations x2 caped by 20

robust dew
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but do those waves of energy or whatever you call it stay even after the brand detaches and you just add a new one?

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or does the new brand have to reapply the 20 stacks

split maple
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energy is lost when it detaches

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you want to hit as many stages as possible as fast as possible, due to more dps

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so each time you kill a mob you need to ramp up again

hoary scarab
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50% chance to get lost shipments pog

gentle finch
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id guess its gonna be like ~30% maybe 35%

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at the max

whole bluff
hoary scarab
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E-Gone

gentle finch
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you can prob target more reduced chance for X memory

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instead of just the 80%

whole bluff
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I want more tears

gentle finch
#

id bet u can stack it and nearly force dread every time

#

there is a couple smalll nodes that buff change for those

whole bluff
#

There are passives for more tears

gentle finch
#

so its safe to assume those will exist too

whole bluff
#

Yeah

rough tulip
#

+chance for svalinn craters idols when

gentle finch
#

the only node on atlas tree that doesnt have a idol is the 1 lane spawns a bunch of blight bosses

rough tulip
gentle finch
#

and obv settlers/memory but we know those are coming

whole bluff
#

Settlers could be interesting. But people say the best ore (bismuth) also kills performance

gentle finch
#

eh its not that bad

whole bluff
#

Though there's also the early strat of crimson iron mob juicing

hoary scarab
#

can also run crimson with the scarab

whole bluff
#

Yeah

hoary scarab
#

great for map farming

whole bluff
#

If we get 2 improved risk scarabs per map for free, that is gonna be very juicey anyway

#

So many strats seem fun

hoary scarab
#

im still gonna go full chest spam blight

#

with chance to add a chest when killing a blight boss

#

and 100% chance to upgrade oils

whole bluff
#

Ritual, harvest, giga-juicers blight, beyond, abyss. So much

gentle finch
#

prob gonna arcanist boxes into t17 scarab farm once i get scarab/map effect idols

hoary scarab
#

im gonna oil up for cassia so good

whole bluff
gentle finch
#

200% scarab chance per rare modifier + 200% map effect is fun

hoary scarab
whole bluff
#

But isn't the same effect on tree?

gentle ice
#

i'm not even sure what i want to run yet... everything is pretty cool to do in phrecia 🤣

whole bluff
#

If it isn't surpassing chance, it just seems same as normal?

#

Essence seems worse than usual

#

Unless big essence idols, idr

gentle ice
#

i got many silver/golden in last phrecia so i'm guessin it's not the same as the tree

gentle finch
#

looks like its 4 3x1s to get 100% chance for oil 1 tier higher

#

20-25% on the 3x1s

#

ya atlas tree does not have that oil node anymore

whole bluff
#

Ah

#

Fair enough. That is juicy

gentle finch
#

hasnt since 3.24

#

3.25 changed +1 oil to 1 lane of bosses

whole bluff
#

Delirium also buffed

warm musk
split maple
gentle finch
#

ya deli spam like 10 sec maps for 7-8 reward stacks

#

is funny strat

whole bluff
#

Juicers alva buffed

split maple
#

like you can only run crimson iron while you are at like under 5mil dps

gentle finch
#

alva gets 100% +2 rooms

#

etc

#

good times

proud gorge
#

wait, what?

whole bluff
#

Ah, yeah alva idols are great

proud gorge
#

where'd all the abyss scarabs go

whole bluff
#

Dead league 😒

#

Try a divine

past rain
#

who isnt playing bog shaman lowk

proud gorge
#

normally there'd be some ridiculously overpriced ones at least

proud gorge
#

this seems, uh, high variance

whole bluff
#

Ngl, I should spend phrecia doing terrible things to eagon maps

#

So I learn the new bosses

rocky pendant
#

Nobody uses them ig lol

proud gorge
#

even if nobody uses them there'd be some for sale

whole bluff
proud gorge
#

it's wild that there's literally zero for sale for chaos

#

it's fine turns out I had 7 in my stash

#

and that should be enough hopefully

whole bluff
#

I got inc chance of lich on my eagon for challenge

hoary scarab
#

alva farm is my week 2 strat

#

cause you can print locus + corruption rooms really easily

ember lodge
#

ign: Kungknut

gentle ice
#

i'll probably just go with whatever i find the most good idols for at the start 🤣

supple moth
#

Anyone know if theres any good slammer ascendancies now with the ancestral commander nerf? havent found many good vids/guides on any atm

hoary scarab
#

cataclysm is prolly still solid

#

you can hit like 18 endurance charges with foulborn anbus and rings

brazen vector
proud gorge
lean urchin
#

just vendor the abyss ones

proud gorge
#

I just need one more Abyssal Depths

#

so the few I've got lying around should be fine

brazen vector
#

hyperglorp good luck <3

past rain
#

everyone and their family are life stacking fr

brazen vector
#

the age of ES is over

hoary scarab
#

foulborn ratshit gonna be 200div

#

fr

whole bluff
#

I need 1. red altars, 2. 200k map quant, 3. 2x secrets ubers, 4. 4x old ubers, 5. secrets guardians maven invitation, 6. endgame grinds, 7. in-map breaches. If secrets is easy in phrecia, then I just need an uber able build

split maple
silent leaf
split maple
#

it just got bricked for strikers

past rain
#

juicy for spark too

#

75% duration 75% proj

brazen vector
#

but out of gold :D maybe during phrecia

silent leaf
brazen vector
lean urchin
#

those are so easy wtf

#

i thought i was bad

hoary scarab
#

grue some grafts

split maple
whole bluff
brazen vector
brazen vector
#

jam-bore is also easy

hoary scarab
#

how many idol slots do you have again?

lean urchin
#

yes

silent leaf
lean urchin
#

like 32 1x1 or something

whole bluff
#

Matter of perspective. I play stuff I like like a special snowflake

brazen vector
split maple
brazen vector
hoary scarab
#

32 i see

split maple
#

fingers crossed no too big idol changes

frigid wedge
#

i figured we would hear about idol changes

gentle finch
#

they never said there would be any

split maple
#

it was also datamine last phrecia iirc

frigid wedge
#

yeah ok

split maple
#

for all mods

brazen vector
#

there are changes

gentle finch
#

outside added the 2 and removing breach

frigid wedge
#

but i had hoped

brazen vector
#

map mod effect REMOVED harrharrharr

hoary scarab
#

i do expect blight oil upgrade to get removed ngl, but one can hope

split maple
#

like niko azurite

whole bluff
frigid wedge
#

anything relating to old altas mods will be removed

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

more worried about the other shit

gentle finch
#

so its possible they dont even bother

rancid peak
#

Probs going Scav EBlade 🫡

gentle finch
#

but we shall see

whole bluff
frigid wedge
#

what sorta ratio do you guys plan to spend for idols vs build

#

i played sanctum last time to avoid it

brazen vector
gentle finch
#

all of it on idols before they go up

frigid wedge
past rain
#

yeah

#

buy idols day 1

frigid wedge
#

i might end up missing day 1 or 2

#

but also

#

campaign me is S L O W

#

so...

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

i mean maybe

past rain
#

slow squad

frigid wedge
#

but im still slow

past rain
frigid wedge
#

it takes me 3 sessions on leaguestart

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

~10h campaign

frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

up to you

frigid wedge
#

i havent figured out how to actually

#

run my build

#

pre str stack

brazen vector
#

same, but thats the fun part

frigid wedge
#

bc im just going doon as soon as physically possible

pulsar dune
#

I'm going to enjoy people complain about dying to izaro

frigid wedge
#

with potentially rathpith or smth

past rain
#

im definitely rolling for uniques

#

with int requirement

frigid wedge
#

i worry that im gonna be overly cluster reliant

past rain
#

and shields

frigid wedge
#

why

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

mmh

#

i mean

umbral crag
frigid wedge
#

if spell dmg per str is cheap on start

brazen vector
frigid wedge
umbral crag
frigid wedge
#

havent even looked at my tree tho

brazen vector
#

eu

umbral crag
#

Ah damn 🙁

brazen vector
#

:(

lean urchin
#

play rf, can play any realm

umbral crag
#

Looking to try casual league start with group first time

hoary scarab
#

welcome to my copium

frigid wedge
#

i think i will get a boxes set of idols

round citrus
#

Yo is there any way to practice phrecia?

frigid wedge
#

and if i hate it i can resale easily

split maple
#

proly not optimal but cba to math out if i want more dupe chance or more yellow beasties

frigid wedge
split maple
#

assuming copy of beasts is multiplicative with scarb

brazen vector
#

Ill try to get a set of delirium/abyss idols since everyone will want rolled magic eyes for builds

#

and deli orbs

umbral crag
#

I took leave this friday, i hope i dont regret using one day of my preciously little leaves

brazen vector
#

I am on sickleave coolglorp

frigid wedge
#

i just think i should try it

frigid wedge
#

even tho i hate them

umbral crag
brazen vector
umbral crag
#

Lololok

livid nest
#

"Monsters steal Power, Frenzy and Endurance charges on hit" = please remove difficulty from the game as i like to one button afk everything kk thx

lean urchin
#

explain, how do u play around it as flicker in the acts

split maple
#

They removed that mod anyways

brazen vector
split maple
hoary scarab
split maple
#

Open New instance kek

fossil mural
#

Or am I tripping

lean urchin
#

if that rerolls mods i dont see why they removed anything

brazen vector
split maple
split maple
#

Eye

#

Jewel

fossil mural
#

Ic

brazen vector
#

of Unmaking

hoary scarab
#

trippin dawg

fossil mural
#

I thought it was gaze

#

Instead of eye

#

Idk why

split maple
#

Oh hypno not gazing

#

These lil ghastlies are traumatizing me for last week

#

Cmon I don't even need rare ones

brazen vector
fossil mural
#

I know, a foreign concept to a poe player

hoary scarab
#

hope they also remove less cdr

lean urchin
#

just... remove it all tbh

fossil mural
split maple
#

Don't remove my free quant

fossil mural
#

At least it wont scale

split maple
#

Free risks are best part of event

fossil mural
#

Or has that changed

lean urchin
#

my 15h 3 rerolls on phrecia gonna take weeks to reach t16s

gentle finch
#

they give quant rarity packsize

#

just like risk scarabs

#

ggg said so

frigid wedge
#

i wonder if spamming aerodynamics+wall of muscle megalomaniac is stupid

fossil mural
#

Hmm

split maple
split maple
#

so you get bonuses

#

but they dont get scaled by effect

hoary scarab
#

i mean, effect scaling kinda dead for idols no

#

compared to the rest you can have

split maple
#

you get gazilion of effect on idols

stable pumice
#

Sooo what headphones ya all use ? XD

split maple
#

its hella good for stuff like harvest, scarb farm, ufrag rushes

fossil mural
#

Old news, old man

pulsar dune
frigid wedge
whole bluff
split maple
pulsar dune
#

Giga effect T17 rush does sound fun ngl

brazen vector
#

kinda hope the new boss mechanics will be kewl

hoary scarab
#

im still coping on vaal flameblast spam being able to handle blights

frigid wedge
#

wait what the fuck do i actually click

frigid wedge
stable pumice
fossil mural
#

So you can guarantee improved offerings

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

do i just path a marauder to the top of the tree

#

and socket arc

split maple
#

does anyone have saved that idol loadout that gave you 15 deli reward stages and fullscreen of deli tiles at beginning of map?

fossil mural
#

But I dont see a lab chance idol

split maple
#

thinking about scarb farming this way

frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

7 arctic novae?

#

thats a lot of headphones

gentle finch
hoary scarab
#

prefix

split maple
#

do we know if we getting t17 mods in t17 maps, red mods in red maps etc?

#

probably yea

gentle finch
#

id assume since it is all zones

fossil mural
gentle finch
#

its global just base mods

#

and not t17 mods in 17/16.5s

fossil mural
#

For some reason doesnt have lab in the text

split maple
brazen vector
split maple
#

since these add tier appropriate mods to pool

gentle finch
#

tbh

hoary scarab
fossil mural
#

Just smoll

hoary scarab
#

yeah, a trial run

brazen vector
#

its a trial

frigid wedge
# stable pumice 1?

they p good, mic kinda low volume tho, charge em once a week for like 2h and the rest has been nice

fossil mural
#

Is there any way to know what offering will drop?

#

Doesnt depend on layout or anything right

gentle finch
#

improved? nah u dont know

frigid wedge
#

its one of them

gentle finch
#

just says improved offering before u enter

fossil mural
#

I even made another guy do the strat

#

Pure evil

gentle finch
#

rofl

fossil mural
#

At least in phrecia you dont need to get the corrupted implicit

#

Thank god

gentle finch
#

i used the free map craft from memory maps in ssf to run it on every map whenever it happened to get a stock pile of them without actually doing it

#

otherwise fuck lab trials rofl

fossil mural
#

Yea normally you need the map enchant

#

Or implicit

#

Whatever its called

#

To not eat the improved craft

split maple
frigid wedge
#

nice

hoary scarab
#

what the fog

frigid wedge
#

what content is spark actually good for

gentle finch
#

ya thats the 10 second instant like 8 reward map setup

frigid wedge
#

hmm

gentle finch
#

just rush the first few packs kill boss leave

hoary scarab
split maple
brazen vector
gentle finch
#

fair

frigid wedge
#

yeah but le content

split maple
#

prolly can hit 15 rewards with full paranoias sloted in for scarbies per second

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

lmao

fossil mural
#

Unless its from the orbs

split maple
#

it just scales with distance by default

fossil mural
#

Kek

#

Actually free?

split maple
#

yea

gentle finch
split maple
#

well 15x 2mod idol but yea

gentle finch
#

for a 1x1

tight plinth
#

how many hours till start?

gentle finch
#

lik 30ish?

plush gulch
#

i never expected they do exile con

fossil mural
gentle finch
#

i think

plush gulch
#

they said they wouldn't do it

fossil mural
#

In which case sure

#

Build the hype

hoary scarab
#

its prolly for that ngl

gentle finch
#

oh ya they def have to be doing 1.0 a few weeks after it or something

plush gulch
split maple
#

the only issue is these deli mods have ass weight, so predictable recombi is out

hoary scarab
#

they did say 1.0 is closer than expected

split maple
#

needs to be unpredictable

fossil mural
split maple
#

you could already in phrecia

fossil mural
#

😩

gentle finch
#

oh god 200

fossil mural
#

But cant recomb jewels

gentle finch
#

ya thats not good

#

rofl

fossil mural
#

Cruel cruel world

split maple
#

ig you can settle on just 400 weigh incr reward prog

frigid wedge
#

i realise making 3 passive wall of muscle smalls is stupid but aerodynamics wall is crazy

split maple
#

not like one extra tile is that important kek

plush gulch
#

so we need to gather all the unique since league start for dust

hoary scarab
#

recombing idols for my 1 mod magic idol pog

lean urchin
#

stack rarity for uniques ezpz

hoary scarab
#

the worst part about rarity stacking in phrecia is unique idols

#

ngl

fossil mural
#

I just hope offerings cost anything

gentle finch
#

least we can actually hide them this time around, remember we had to like make them tiny size and see through

plush gulch
#

behemoth goat

fossil mural
#

Surely they do right?

plush gulch
#

bis

gentle finch
#

cuz ggg didnt code it to be hideable

#

that was awful

supple moth
#

Too many builds to choose from mannnn anyone else struggling to pick one 💀

hoary scarab
#

phrecia was just slapped together by 3 guys in their free time or something

fossil mural
plush gulch
fossil mural
plush gulch
#

or do impending doom harbinger

#

:p

hoary scarab
fossil mural
#

Ill probably leg start herald

#

And then do bog witch vaal snap

supple moth
#

Im either going cyclone ancestral commander, kboc whisperer, or herald stacking penance brand

#

Cant pick out of those 3 lmao

split maple
#

so okay if you have 2x 2suffix idol with 2 desired suffixes and 2 trash ones in pool, unpredictable recombi is 15% to win

#

that should be reasonable

hoary scarab
#

im going full auto vaal flameblast of contraction

split maple
#

well roughly 15%, mod weights do play a part there

fossil mural
#

Lmao vaal flameblast is kinda cool

hoary scarab
#

its great

#

and you can get it down to use like 2souls

supple moth
native token
#

ssf or trade in phercia

hoary scarab
#

kboc whisperer is hard to mess up but gonna be pricy

fossil mural
split maple
fossil mural
#

Just drop the herald ff

split maple
#

i love how folks are already posting pbod pobs without explode source kek

split maple
#

if you mean fbl respite it will crash non-nasa computers

#

if you mean hive, you want explodeys for hive to clear more than a pack

#

like that fucking fbl respite looks so good but using it together with explode chest i cannot even kill a pack

#

it just goes all down

umbral crag
#

What are some endgame witch stuff for phrecia if im league starting hoag?

fossil mural
#

Bog rf?

#

Big life

umbral crag
#

Something thats >100m dps kek

ocean field
#

can't wait for precia

whole bluff
#

I don't have much trouble with fbl respite and oriaths end, but before I lowered settings stuff like betrayal Catarina zone almost crashed me on entering

ocean field
#

league so bad they gotta have prechia

hoary scarab
#

leauge almost over

ocean field
#

we are still more than a month away

whole bluff
#

My settings are minimal now though, cuz I couldn't fully control my character in t17 catarina

modern zinc
#

I like the league tbh

ocean field
#

but yes it is a good thing

modern zinc
#

I think i'm gonna stay in the league

hoary scarab
split maple
#

its barely day 83

modern zinc
#

spectre gameplay not very good in the event

split maple
#

while most folks burn out like day 10

#

or 20 at least

whole bluff
#

I prolly actually had to redo t17 catarina for jambore

elder marlin
native token
hoary scarab
fossil mural
umbral crag
gentle ice
#

i'll probably the whole 3 weeks personally considering how much i've played last phrecia compared to normal leagues 🤣

gentle finch
split maple
#

Casie can you tell salty how much you played poe2 this league before finishing it kek

whole bluff
#

They prolly move on

west girder
#

Hey, Will there a Option to do the Legacy of Phrecia event as a Private League?

fossil mural
whole bluff
native token
#

avrg day on poe2

fossil mural
#

Lmao

hoary scarab
#

genuinly still have more fun in poe2 than poe1, even if its still undercooked

whole bluff
#

Move on to things where they are the target audience

hoary scarab
fossil mural
split maple
#

špegel fon kalandra is kinda hilarious tho

elder marlin
hoary scarab
umbral crag
native token
#

please

hoary scarab
umbral crag
whole bluff
gentle finch
elder marlin
native token
fossil mural
hoary scarab
#

smh my head

whole bluff
#

Not this one

tranquil sedge
umbral crag
#

Ahh

native token
whole bluff
#

Joke, your language you're right

elder marlin
hoary scarab
#

Zeigs ihm

umbral crag
hoary scarab
#

Mit maggi Würze

native token
#

we have a german word if you poor in poe

fossil mural
native token
#

we call you geringdiviner

split maple
gentle ice
#

poe2 is kinda fun if you can reach maps, i've played like 2-3 week in the abyss league 🤣 but it's soooooooo boring for me during campaign i gave up at act4 this league

umbral crag
fossil mural
#

Poe2 mapping is too inconsistent for me

#

Its all about big drops

gentle finch
elder marlin
native token
#

got my 3-4 mirror profit for my 2h playtime

past rain
#

u get 1 mir profit for no hit?

#

holy

gentle ice
native token
#

relic was like 2.1 mirror

#

and you coud sell temporalis for 3

fossil mural
haughty ermine
#

i love atlas prog

gentle finch
fossil mural
native token
#

in divine terms, you paid 6000 divines for relic and you got 9000 divines as return

haughty ermine
#

but i also like speedrunning in general

hoary scarab
#

i hate poe1 atlas rn ngl, ever since conq i cant stand it, the atlas lost all meaning for me

haughty ermine
#

probs related to my enjoyment

split maple
#

why do poe2 folks complain then

split maple
#

like you can get 6k div/h

#

that should be enough

native token
#

yes

#

and its like 100000 times easier

hoary scarab
native token
#

compared to poe1 no hit

fossil mural
native token
#

since you just need to avoid to get es/mana/life dmg

#

but you got many absorb shields

#

basicly you coud take hits

hoary scarab
#

wich is funny cause they supposedly fixed that

elder marlin
#

whats the best hit based bow skills that scale well with flat?

gentle ice
#

it does feel like a chore but it give you a goal to achieve compared to poe2 where it just expand infinitely and it's really meh (to me at least i don't like it)

hexed mountain
#

Its wild that no hit is a lot of profit in poe2

fossil mural
#

In poe2 you actually have a point to atlas

native token
hexed mountain
#

You can just legit use witchhunter and facetank half the things

native token
#

what you expect xdd

split maple
#

Salty give me one good reason to maps in poe2

#

When nohits are 6k D/h

whole bluff
#

Poe1 atlas is so easy though

fossil mural
#

Also science

whole bluff
#

What's the point of poe2 atlas?

hoary scarab
native token
#

they dont know whats possible

split maple
steel light