1┃general

[wheat sinew]

I checked mine

5k

I wanted to cry

xd

[hard cliff]

[split maple]

Fuck man we prolly have same airport options

[icy zinc]

yeah herald hoa has good early potential

[wheat sinew]

oh is it just for poe2

[icy zinc]

but you can swap to bog shaman later

[wheat sinew]

damn I guess rip

[fossil mural]

Ofc lol, who tf gives a shit about poe1

[hard cliff]

Well what other games are ggg actively developing ?

not this one

[wheat sinew]

have to take 4 different planes

[tall belfry]

Poe mobile

[wheat sinew]

[tall belfry]

[split maple]

I drive, your car

[icy zinc]

well no

[split maple]

Or well kayak

[icy zinc]

literally takes first sentence

[hard cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY9cSFRBzJc

[hard cliff]

Path of Exile 2 development won't affect Path of exile 1

[wheat sinew]

still tho, wish IPT wasn't so expensive

(Intercontinental Plane Ticket)

[soft perch]

i was very sad when i discovered bloodthirst doesnt work on facebreakers

[fossil mural]

Oh yea they might show ported rigging for poe1 ig

[icy zinc]

that was said during 2019 btw

[split maple]

We should make our own exilecon with affordable travel options and poker

[fossil mural]

It does say "with weapons"

[onyx adder]

Never did, ppl complaining since day 1

[stuck phoenix]

Call it

[onyx adder]

U will have ur added weapon damage and u will like it

[stuck phoenix]

Exiledcon

Xdd

[icy zinc]

and if you think leagues in 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 didnt have poe 1

i mean mostly people take into context kingsmarch

league settlers

but eh well

[fossil mural]

Oh yea, where are you supposed to get flat for facebreakers? At least doryanis gets it by default

[icy zinc]

ascendancy from duelist lo

[split maple]

Em from rallying cry merc

[icy zinc]

that gives shitton of flat from impales

[stuck phoenix]

That one support for 3% life

[wheat sinew]

asc, rings

[icy zinc]

one sec necroing one

[stuck phoenix]

Or how about just flat ele support, wait, this was phys wasn't it. Uhhh

[hard cliff]

you are desperate here sorry

[split maple]

Abyss jewels?

[icy zinc]

nah just realist

[hard cliff]

We're literally in a non league right now

[icy zinc]

poe 2 was pushed over poe 1 from 2019 and onwards

till 2025

[hard cliff]

It's 2026 and they have stopped developing poe 1 but ok

[onyx adder]

Hollow palm gives u lots of flat for facebreakers

[tall belfry]

Lmfao

[onyx adder]

Theyre even both unarmed

[split maple]

I wish that worked

Like unironically

[tall belfry]

Wtd baiting again

[icy zinc]

let me uh wear facebreakers on my legs

[tall belfry]

Maybe dex stack would actually be viable

[icy zinc]

rip i guess!

[fossil mural]

Maybe he just remembered the better games hollow palm

[onyx adder]

U rly want to delete brutus that hard eh

[icy zinc]

theres something coming in march

who knows

[split maple]

Dex stack is viable for like 20 days per year

[hard cliff]

Let's hope Zana brings us new content while she goes crazy in the Atlas

[tall belfry]

Ggg promised me poe mobile

Where's my poe mobile

[hard cliff]

Are facebreakers actually busted for certain builds or is it just something different to do for fun ?

(viable build reason)

[icy zinc]

atlas still on fire from that switzerland ski resort party

[soft perch]

viable is a strong word for an ultra squishy melee build in a soft gauntlet league

[split maple]

Was good with mercs

[tall belfry]

If you can get yourself a stupid amount of flat damage

[fossil mural]

Phys flat like doesnt exist

[subtle crow]

Is ralakesh the only way to circumvent the Arn's Anguish mod that makes you unable to gain endurance charges?

[split maple]

I am talking manastackers dexstack in general not facebreakers

[soft perch]

o

[fossil mural]

Just get yourself a twink who plays an aura bot

[soft perch]

i thought u meant hollow palm wildspeaker

[icy zinc]

gauntlet in phrecia is seriously asking people to go 3-6 parties cause so bored!

alas...

[split maple]

Yeah lol I am not that suicidal

[fossil mural]

Minimal charges

[onyx adder]

WAIT

I can play BEHEMOTH

With TURTLE

[split maple]

Kinda funky how Phrecia has like milion dexstackers while base game has close to nada

[onyx adder]

And have DETERMINATION

[split maple]

If you want to do juice at least

[onyx adder]

PogU turtle man

[icy zinc]

surprisingly yes

[subtle crow]

Ah that's right. Sadly there's no way I'll get up to 13 minimum charges haha

[hard cliff]

TURTLE GAMING LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[onyx adder]

Cant lose have turtle

[icy zinc]

and as other said you can stack strength gain mana transform mana into armor and uhh

[hard cliff]

How are you keeping that turtle alive tho

[icy zinc]

complete the cycle

[fossil mural]

Spectrums and then some stuff somewhere, like rings

[fossil mural]

Brutus brain

[onyx adder]

Its a turtle he'll be fine copiumtruck

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/skateboard-sergeant-turtle-trying-to-cuddle-with-his-friend-gif-10387176289957805387

[soft perch]

@onyx adder am i coping for evasion stack oshabi

[split maple]

Make build more squish than turtley

And you won't have issues

[soft perch]

i am so sure its incredibly fine for softcore

[onyx adder]

Also copiumtruck

[icy zinc]

chameleon turtle

[tall belfry]

Copiumnuke

[fossil mural]

Peak mediocraty

[icy zinc]

yeah at the end of the day softcore gauntlet

[tall belfry]

[soft perch]

can i get an opinion from someone who has opinions i value

[icy zinc]

just die at the bosses head to head

thats how my architect of vaal gonna be with his vaal blade vortexes

send out 4 to clear the eternal conflict legions

[onyx adder]

Copiumtruck

[tall belfry]

It sounds like shit but I know nothing about evasion stack cuz it sounds like shit

[split maple]

Isn't the whole point of stacking shit that you get offence from defence scaling

[fossil mural]

You are lucky I cant send gifs

[split maple]

Evasion doesn't give that

[icy zinc]

bo7 can we send images in poe2 again, uh yes

never forget

fuckin rules man

[tall belfry]

Dream feather

[split maple]

Defence part is issue

Not offence part

[fossil mural]

Surely evasion is the defence

[tall belfry]

Kek fair

[icy zinc]

i hate svalinn so much

i hate that its so good

and to gain it you have to get bald in real life

[tall belfry]

Wait why can't you send gifs

[fossil mural]

I like the absolute gap in usability between poe1 and poe2 svalinn

[fossil mural]

Vpn

[tall belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-serious-laugh-even-harder-are-you-kidding-me-gif-1626404826884964744

[split maple]

Lets make a boss have 3% appereance rate and then lets give it 3% drop rate

Someone at ggg had to find that funny

[icy zinc]

thats mostly cause the good melee weapons havent been added yet

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[icy zinc]

i mean you could do spear

but not really

[tall belfry]

Dann

[icy zinc]

when stat stick exists

[tall belfry]

I sent one earlier too

[icy zinc]

actually that kinda will be preferred too lol

nothing beating the limb

[fossil mural]

Shame ggg neutered frenzy gen

So no one gives a shit about spears

[fossil mural]

Wow mounts have better drop rates

[tight plinth]

[split maple]

Did anyone ever get svalinn from mappers actually

That has to be saner than farming it in maps (well less sane than valdos but still)

[icy zinc]

fuck thats a good question

and i dont remember

[crimson hearth]

any tips for faster atlas progression tryna get all points n voidstones

[tight plinth]

use kirac

[split maple]

Do highest tier map you got

[icy zinc]

the abyss uniques come from map runners

[split maple]

When you run out, do Lower tiers

[split maple]

Trialmaster and oshabi stuff too

[crimson hearth]

i cant run t14s yet im avg t6

[tight plinth]

which point of the atlas progression youre stuck on?

[split maple]

So improve build

[tight plinth]

oh you need gear then

[icy zinc]

yeah sweet

[split maple]

And go next

[crimson hearth]

my gear looks ok im tryna finish lower tears first is that bad?

[fossil mural]

Yea youll just never get it

[split maple]

Post a pob

Maybe in #1┃build-planning

[crimson hearth]

kk

[tight plinth]

not bad perse, depends on your goals

[tall belfry]

Try Johnson & Johnson

No more tears

[crimson hearth]

cant export pob i forgot abt that

[crimson hearth]

huh

[tight plinth]

link your profile

[icy zinc]

the unhinged 1 in 1k maps

[dusky void]

thats tanky for a herald autobomber or?

[icy zinc]

like get spoonfed or something

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-turtle-bite-gif-7936971

[split maple]

Issue is getting scarbies for 1k maps

[fossil mural]

Found the gif pog

[hard cliff]

wow lancing steel doesn't work with fury valve

that's weird

[onyx adder]

That turtle has determination

Must be perfect turtle

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[hard cliff]

Thank you turtle

[hard cliff]

ok it works I dunno why i thought it made it a single projectile

[icy zinc]

augh

[tall belfry]

Why turtle biting nards

[hard cliff]

Dog needs to be vaccinated

[tall belfry]

Lmfao this feels like a yahoo answers question

[onyx adder]

It used to

[tall belfry]

"y my tutrle bite bals?"

[onyx adder]

Base projectiles are unaffected by the fury valve replacement effect

[crimson hearth]

wdym like from website?

[fossil mural]

So cringe proj work?

[tight plinth]

yahoo answers back in the day were hilarious

[tight plinth]

yes

[icy zinc]

damn inflation hit hard 2k usd for ultra vip ticket

[tall belfry]

Preganté

[onyx adder]

What was it last time

[fossil mural]

Trump must be farming 70 room temple

[icy zinc]

around 500

[onyx adder]

I vaguely remember it being reasonable

[icy zinc]

maybe a bit more

750

[tall belfry]

This would make Elon shake with rage

[hard cliff]

I def don't get the hate

this is fun

Needs actual attack speed tho

[icy zinc]

okay they were 1000 dollars for ticket three

thats the info

[tight plinth]

you are indeed pregent

[slim island]

anyone got $3000 to spare

[fossil mural]

Elon still cant get his chain going

Snake isnt rising

[icy zinc]

considering they were to eat with the devs they were sold instantly

[hard cliff]

KIWI BBQ

THEY COOKING THEM BURBS

[tall belfry]

Yeah why

[hard cliff]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

[icy zinc]

Should have tried support local brick industries to build roman roads

He likes supporting the russian strats

[crimson hearth]

no idea how lol

[hard cliff]

I don't understand why manually using call of steel gives me steel shards if I don't have any impales

[fossil mural]

Trump is def abusing russian tech

[icy zinc]

re al

[tall belfry]

I genuinely believe if Elon found out that trump was a better gamer than him, he'd fuckin kill him

[icy zinc]

spymaster medallion didnt drop today, the fam has nothing to eat

[crimson hearth]

why cant i export to pob anyways it keeps sayin priv profile even tho im public all privacy settings off i updated 100 time prob

[fossil mural]

Are you sure you trying to link the right profile

[tall belfry]

Quick someone start coaching trump

[tight plinth]

that would be so cool, trump and elon racing in gauntlet 1v1

[tall belfry]

We gotta see what happens

[crimson hearth]

yeah

[fossil mural]

Trump would win even if he never touched a computer before ngl

[tall belfry]

Cool is for a sure an adjective

[fossil mural]

It would be a tale to tell

[tight plinth]

one of the races of all time

[tall belfry]

Itd be a meme of the year for sure

[fossil mural]

Canon event KEKW

[tall belfry]

Lmfao

[hard cliff]

I'm so glad I quit poe during all the crazy elon chinese bot farm drama

I wonder if it got them more players lol

[tall belfry]

Shit was hysterical

[fossil mural]

Def got exposure

[hard cliff]

Game is so hard Elon musks has to cheat to even play it

[tall belfry]

I managed to get a couple of whispers to the guy

[tawny drum]

RENTING MY ROON FOR THE EVENT IN AUCKLAND. 5 PEOPLE USD 550 EACH

[crimson hearth]

see still says private

[tall belfry]

First time I've told him to kill himself since I got banned off x for doing that

[fossil mural]

Why are names different

[icy zinc]

strange i can browse other people chars

[modern zinc]

my problem with Ultimatum is that the rewards are kinda dog and the rounds take forever

[icy zinc]

you just need the name

[crimson hearth]

theyr diffrent?

[fossil mural]

Yes

[hard cliff]

Cuddles included or extra ?

[fossil mural]

Look closer

[icy zinc]

ok its private

l ol

[fossil mural]

I find it very funny how this complaint can be applied to both games

[tall belfry]

Do you have a toilet that can handle American sized shits or will I have to go in the backyard

[icy zinc]

overhead_apron62#6218

[fossil mural]

Pob name is overhead_apron, and on the website its overhead_apron62

[icy zinc]

surprisingly you didnt notice you got 62 before #

maybe

[hard cliff]

holy crap splitting steel looks cool af

[icy zinc]

yoink or something

[south trout]

how bait is flicker strike for real, in SSF specifically

[tight plinth]

https://pobb.in/gDPbdb-pTD2u heres your character pob

[crimson hearth]

it works i can export

[crimson hearth]

orr theres that lol thanks

[icy zinc]

considering you got literally farrul built in an ascendancy

well eh well

[crimson hearth]

the pob isnt accurate tho lemme adjust and send

[south trout]

It's the only reason I'm considering it. I've gotten the drops for it in previous SSF leagues but it always looked like a meme, been playing since Scourge

[tall belfry]

Honestly not very bait at all imo

It's still flicker

So yknow

But ssf flicker doesn't look bad

[modern zinc]

it's bait if you wanna do blight delve ultimatum

[tall belfry]

Trade flicker probably better as scav tho

[south trout]

Big thing for me is just being tanky, but from what I'm seeing is you can get a solid 1h/shield setup with ascendency

[karmic gust]

you will not be tanky on flicker especially not in ssf

so if thats your goal probs would look at different skill with safer playstyle

[tall belfry]

Fuck that, you paid for 6 portals so you should use em

[pliant hamlet]

A lot of high end flickers inherently end up tanky because endurance charges. Budget flicker does not get that benefit

You can make tanky flicker but it'll suck

[south trout]

Yea not 100% on my plan atm. I have pretty extensive knowledge as far as SSF and have no problem making strong characters.

[karmic gust]

yea you can fix the issues with money and gear usually :d

[pliant hamlet]

Rakiata's Flicker ends up pretty tanky

[karmic gust]

but even high end flickers are on like low end of defense

[pliant hamlet]

I really liked that build

[karmic gust]

as far as strike builds go

[pliant hamlet]

90% lit res, make all your damage lightning

hit like 16m dps, 200k+ ehp

[south trout]

I was thinking about the impending doom harbinger, concept sounded fun but again I just hate squish in general. I'd rather sacrafice damage for defenses every day of the week.

sacrifice

[pliant hamlet]

Harbinger Scorn doesn't need...any damage help at all until juice content

you can just make it tanky

The build hits like 1.5m dps without even trying day 1 lol

[south trout]

lol yea it looked nuts

[pliant hamlet]

Pretty sure that's what I'm starting

[south trout]

I was looking forward to AC so much but the endur/dod changes got me all sad

[pliant hamlet]

I mean, is going from 9->8 endu charges really going to kill your build?

[tall belfry]

@south trout have you considered wardstack antiquarian

[south trout]

doesn't it want the belt from shipping?

[pliant hamlet]

Ydna's is ass to get in ssf

[south trout]

yeeep

[fierce rock]

chase unique passive?

[pliant hamlet]

I'd rather farm mb+hh+kalandra's touch than plan around ydnas

[fierce rock]

like you just spawn and you have MB effect?

[tall belfry]

It is but if you can get it, that build is nutty

[cerulean breach]

what about Jiquani's Potential + Aristocrat + 800 dex + 800+ int Curtain Call miner?

[south trout]

I've yet to see it in SSF not that I've particularly tried for it but with 3 weeks for this event I dont wanna waste time on that lol

[tall belfry]

Doable

[pliant hamlet]

you legit can't plan around ydna's. It's too rare, he may literally never see it in 20 days

[tall belfry]

This is fair

I genuinely think there's no shot this event doesn't get extended tho

[crimson hearth]

https://pobb.in/INFPUVAN70t9 heres my pob im avg t6 maps what do i upgrade next? atlas progress feels slow

[pliant hamlet]

I wouldn't play around ydna's in a 3 month league, and I've self-farmed multiple MBs at this point

The item just isn't realistic. It's one of those "if you get it, then you can consider it" items

Also, putting so much gold strain on yourself isn't great either

[fierce rock]

what's so good about ydna's?

[tall belfry]

Simply get it to drop

[pliant hamlet]

Gain Ward instead of 50% of Armour and Evasion Rating from Equipped Body Armour

[onyx adder]

1 billion ward

[pliant hamlet]

Gain Added Chaos Damage equal to 10% of Ward <- Nightgrip

[tight plinth]

why do you got enlighten on ballista

[tall belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[crimson hearth]

Idk empty slot couldnt sell it ignore that lol

[tall belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/marmalady-loading-cat-loading-no-thoughts-head-empty-orange-cat-gif-16839780121924734769

[tight plinth]

ballista is 2/3s your damage tho

[crimson hearth]

Wait does enlighten make it weaker

[tight plinth]

it doesnt do anything

at least to the ballista

[past mantle]

You're not using another damage support instead of it.

[crimson hearth]

Oh okey ima add another support ig

[tight plinth]

yo flo, what was the build you send me, is that an autobomber warcryer?

[pliant hamlet]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Elevenzero-6184/KeepMyBawls?i=0&search=items%3DYnda%2527s%2BStand%26sort%3Ddps%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cward%252Cehp%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill here's the ynda build
losing ynda's is -80% dps lol

[past mantle]

Not auto, gotta press the warcry yourself.

[tight plinth]

thats so

[crimson hearth]

so the build itself what do i upgrade next

[tight plinth]

how do you scale it?

[past mantle]

Shield charge to create corpses then detonate them with a warcry.

Corpse life, uul netol ring, inc %.

[fierce rock]

oh, nightgrip turns ward into damage, i get it now

[past mantle]

Number of corpses.

[crimson hearth]

also he lists (the guide) support instead of enlighten its elemental penetration but i cant find it anywhere

[fierce rock]

is aristocrat stat stacker gonna be good or bait

[icy zinc]

can you please not buy jiquani potential that is not for spark of nova

[crimson hearth]

idk

[icy zinc]

[cerulean breach]

..what?

[past mantle]

It's gonna be good.

[cerulean breach]

@past mantle what about my idea

jiquani aristocrat curtain call 800+int 800 dex miner

[icy zinc]

considering it got from 5% per 5 lower attrib to 8% per 5 lower attrib

uhmm uhhmm

well

[crimson hearth]

love the no replys

[past mantle]

Mines with blood magic seems kinda painge.

[fierce rock]

sorry

[icy zinc]

remove playstation tag and everyone will immediately help you /s

but yeah phrecia theorycraftmaxxing atm

[cerulean breach]

I gotta see how much they reserve but to be fair I didn't consider that

[hexed mountain]

on paper aristocrat tristacker looks great

[crimson hearth]

idk why i even have that

[cerulean breach]

I didn't say tristacker tho

[past mantle]

[cerulean breach]

mate where's ur life to begin with

[hexed mountain]

why not tristack when you get a whole 8% per 5 D:

its BIG

[past mantle]

This is just a 6 linked random mine I pulled up with blood magic on a level 1.

[crimson hearth]

kk and the gear is fine?

[pulsar dune]

ngl lifestack behemoth does not look good lmao

[hexed mountain]

tristack prism quiver widowhail GAMING

[crimson hearth]

tryna get another the taming ring and headhunter but later obv

[past mantle]

Is that going to be better than inquis tristack prism quiver?

[onyx adder]

Lifestack drakeNo

Str stack drakeYes

[cerulean breach]

jiquani has like 2x the damage of widowhail prism just from int alone

[charred condor]

If average 2-4 hrs an act, should I join legacy of phrecia event?

[onyx adder]

Man i think drakeNo is a boomer emoji these days

[cerulean breach]

@past mantle maybe I just go shavs?

[icy zinc]

widowhail rearguard should be bread and butter for witch early mapping me thinks for herald of agony

[pulsar dune]

strstack is going to be a fair bit pricier IG

[crimson hearth]

4hrs an act

[lean urchin]

vendor recipie

[icy zinc]

well drake is relevant still in spotify so

[hexed mountain]

on top end its not even close

[icy zinc]

:x

[pulsar dune]

nothing I POBd is actually that expensive

[hexed mountain]

because aristocrat is a duelist

and as such can get fatal flourish

[crimson hearth]

theres vendor recipies for gems??

[hexed mountain]

insanely expensive probably tho

[cerulean breach]

1000 int jiquani =

>>> avg(1, 53)*1000/10
2700.0

1000 int + str + dex prism with 250% widowhail

>>> 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5
4.5
>>> _*1000/10
450.0
>>> _*3.5
1575.0

[lean urchin]

yes mhf

[pulsar dune]

maxhits are good tho (idk where leech went, not my job lmao)

[hexed mountain]

yeah but 8% damage per 5 lowest attribute does all the inc damage the build needs

[crimson hearth]

https://pobb.in/INFPUVAN70t9

[hexed mountain]

you got a lot less flat and a LOT more increased

[cerulean breach]

even then you're still better off just using jiquani

[pulsar dune]

is a .7 attack time leap slam playable?

[hexed mountain]

also fatal flourish ensures you can scale it to insane levels if you want to invest

[cerulean breach]

fatal flourish doesn't exist

[past mantle]

Yes as long as you don't spam.

[hexed mountain]

just farm it

easy farm no scam

[cerulean breach]

...how?

it's like a .001% uber drop

[hexed mountain]

do 2 uber exarch and 2 uber eaters

50% drop rate either it drops or it doesnt

[crimson hearth]

is selling lifeforce for div a good strat im doing that rn 6500 yellow for 1d

[onyx adder]

I mean its bad and u have to move cancel every leapslam

So try not to do it

[past mantle]

Servant of Arakaali looks almost so good.

[onyx adder]

If u have to then ok

[pulsar dune]

grey wind is rough ngl

[hexed mountain]

i think its actually good

[cerulean breach]

@past mantle I'm thinking of going bog witch BV but not sure what I'll do for campaign

[icy zinc]

1000 all attrib would be better for life hybrid playstyle me thinks

[hexed mountain]

like skip envy once you get endgame and just take the spooders for self buff with the double spider helm for 600% poison damage and 80% attack speed and the thread spider

[past mantle]

If servant of arkaali didn't need aspect of spider node, it'd be actually fat as hell.

Sdag.

[icy zinc]

not a good one per se

[wheat sinew]

okay done, this took more divines than I wanted to spend xd

[lean urchin]

gonna cry

[hexed mountain]

molten strike with the daggers

[icy zinc]

real game is amassing the 4 mirror idols set

with the "item is in demand, tp anyway?"

[icy zinc]

n1 phrecia attempt

izaro will have gauntlet mods to make it easier

[lean urchin]

its a lvl 88 with mageblood

[icy zinc]

looks visually clear for a lvl 88

mistook for 32 lv

[wheat sinew]

minus 1

[crude moat]

bruh

[lean urchin]

its lab, not hc

[crude moat]

that's worse

[onyx adder]

Ok when spikey was asking people to make siphoning trap pobs he didnt mean actually go play them

[wheat sinew]

only regret this league is never actually finishing the perfect facebreaker build

[stoic horizon]

siphoning trap truly new meta

[hexed mountain]

i never finished my pbod helm

accidentally made a dom blow helm and rolled with it

(dom blow still felt like shit on a 8-9L)

[lean urchin]

whats the point of penance mark

just.. more ads?

[coral summit]

getting on kill effects mid boss

[pulsar dune]

cws can use it to be stunned more reliably

[hexed mountain]

its on arakaali to spawn spiders

i think its not great

[stoic horizon]

some strikes can use it to shotgun with their aoe

[lean urchin]

so i was right

thanks

[coral summit]

you can, but its not great synergy with speed

since they die in one hit

like worms

[past mantle]

People just use the gloves that prevent kills.

[coral summit]

wut

[stoic horizon]

southbound

[coral summit]

do they just use cull on the bosses on a diff link then?

[steady otter]

Cws uses it to get on kill effects during boss fight (in this case it's Hinekora explosion)

If you have 100% ignite chance, killing a mob generated by penance mark can proc hinekora, the ignite from hinekora will kill the boss

[pulsar dune]

I've seen CF used

[coral summit]

ic

raise spiders can use melee splash cant they

[soft perch]

jiquani is an intstacker that reserves life anyway

[coral summit]

owait no u need to kill them to generate spiders in the first place so they arent gaining much from that

is jiquani able to use mask of the spirit drinker for funny shit or is it still not worth for them

[stoic horizon]

yes

[soft perch]

i think its worse than scav in this league honestly

[pulsar dune]

It's an option, yeah

But in phrecia probably don't

[coral summit]

i wasnt able to figure out how to get good numbers out of jiquani

while also going mask

bad at the game

[fickle glen]

• gathers info from the shadows *

[pulsar dune]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/ass-jiquani

Oh wait, stitched demon

Idk how they differ

[coral summit]

that is what i meant to refer to

i forgot which was which

:V

stitched demon is the one that matters

[proud gorge]

I mean, that's just Int stack things

jiquani basically just solves damage by itself

[fickle glen]

That looks nice

[proud gorge]

pair it with any spell with halfway decent DE and you're jazzing

[coral summit]

ig when i was comparing it to rathpith+other spells that you can already get flat dmg from life scaling that spoiled my expectations from it

[cerulean breach]

what's the DE on eye of winter shotgunning every projectile off of a tornado?

[proud gorge]

uh, no idea

[pulsar dune]

Do you even need a tornado?

[soft perch]

i dont love that jiquani pob cuz it has 0 cast speed outside of clusters so its gonna be horrendous to play until ur well into t16s

[pulsar dune]

Yea

That's definitely an issue with jiquani

[soft perch]

i would go mines on a budget

[coral summit]

like, lookin at that setup with mb+simplex budget thats what

[soft perch]

generally i dont like budget jiquani builds cuz their movement is so slow

[coral summit]

320% inc dmg and a fuckton of flat off that int

[cerulean breach]

as opposed to what?

[hard cliff]

Hello chat

[proud gorge]

yeah you probably want to pair Jiquani's with some sort of cast speed or spell trigger

[tall belfry]

I'm still considering vgs architect, but getting to 0 sgp sounds like a fuckin nightmare

[coral summit]

but even a 10k rathpiss build is getting like 500% inc damage and then you figure out how to scale flat from that as well

[soft perch]

same

[coral summit]

and rathpith tends to hit anywhere from like 20k-40k life

[pulsar dune]

If you land the final spiral directly on target I think it'll full shotgun

[proud gorge]

Jiquani's itself doesn't lower your cast speed, but it also doesn't provide any

[soft perch]

seems painful before getting trialmaster ascend

[fickle glen]

Sup

[coral summit]

and solves ur crit

[tall belfry]

Oh you were also thinking of this shit? Lmao

[hard cliff]

My head hurts

[coral summit]

so rathpith+flat dmg means you get flat+inc+crit off one stat

[hard cliff]

Trying to figure out what combo of blade volley and blade blast to use

why are their so many variations bro

[soft perch]

ye but im coping hard on evasion stacker

[tall belfry]

[coral summit]

so yeah thats maybe why it felt bad to compare lol

[fickle glen]

It’s so great

[past mantle]

How fast do farrul tigers hit? Can they sustain 15 stacks at 20% wither without investment into them in any way?

[tall belfry]

I've got a couple other half builds in the chamber but I spent the most time brewing vgs and now I'm not sure I wanna do it cuz it sounds like death

[proud gorge]

If you're going Blade Vortex, go Unloading. If you're going Bladefall, go base Blade Blast. Dagger Detonation is strong but is just a nova spell, no blades interaction. Bladefall of Volleys also has no blades interaction.

[thick goblet]

is vgs vaal ground slam

[tall belfry]

Yeah

[pulsar dune]

EK of lingering blades is also there just to give you even more options

[proud gorge]

Unloading exclusively has synergy with Blade Vortex, so it's only usable with specifically that skill and nothing else

[tall belfry]

I was able to get sgp down to less than a server tick but only though pain and sacrifice

[proud gorge]

every other Blades build just uses base Blade Blast

[dreamy charm]

is hoag hearld good in phricia? im only going to be able to play one build for event

[thick goblet]

yeah it's strong, heard the ai can suck in shitty layouts though

[proud gorge]

nothing wrong with good old classic Blade Blast of Nothing

[thick goblet]

why do you need sgp to be less than a server tick?

[proud gorge]

presumably so they can get souls off the enemies killed by their vaal skill

aka let the skill generate souls off itself

[dreamy charm]

ty last phricia i just farmed harvest juice and destructive play going to do this same i guess this time

[finite quail]

rathpiss and tulfall power charge stacking

10 power charges = 500-700 flat cold spell damage

[thick goblet]

ah that makes sense

[finite quail]

which equals gaming

[proud gorge]

that's the reason why most Vaal skill builds use exclusively the vaal skills that deal lingering damage

because they can generate souls off themselves even with a moderate soul gain prevention

[finite quail]

Ooh I should probably incorporate vaal spark into my poison spark nova pog shaman

Oh no wait nvm it wouldnt do anything

It doesnt have a mana/life cost

so it doesnt get scaled by the cost

Guess vaal spark will stay with the architect of chaos

[hard cliff]

THANK YOU

The idea is a four link bladefall to clear trash and dagger detonation when I need to BRING THE PAIN

[hard cliff]

Hooooly shit

[proud gorge]

I mean, doable, but at that point you're basically just playing two unrelated phys spells

with no internal synergy beyond both being phys spells

personally I'm a big fan of Bladefall/Blade Blast poison spells

gotta set up some sort of trigger type situation to make them cast simultaneously all the time

[icy zinc]

class asc's that do not get crazy power spikes after 1st lab gonna feel awkward in the extra mod plus gauntlet boss environment lwk

[hard cliff]

No poison this league

[proud gorge]

when I did it it was Poet's Pen + Spellslinger, but this was way back during Spellslinger league

eh, you can definitely still do poison

the unscaled poison avoid mod is like 25% poison avoid

[pulsar dune]

Usually people just do arcanist brand Bladefall and click blade blast

[hard cliff]

BLADEFALL

bladefall feeds blade blast detonation targets

[thick goblet]

ah so that's why vcs is popular even though it's kinda mediocre

[pulsar dune]

(also, ailment avoidance doesn't roll at random)

[hard cliff]

That makes sense

[proud gorge]

only base Blade Blast

[hard cliff]

You said to play base blade blast !!!

😩

[proud gorge]

yeah

it's great

you get a ridiculous amount of blades with bladefall, and blade blast does a ton of damage

especially when it's chaining through all those blades

very much a clear build and a DPS build

[pulsar dune]

You can also spell cascade Bladefall to get even more blades

[proud gorge]

the main issue is just that it's a two button build where you want to be casting both halves at all times

so yeah, I can see Arcanist Brand

I saw a fun tech recently actually

Maloney's Mechanism to trigger a bow skill to trigger MFA Rain of Arrows of Saturation to trigger CoC Bladefall

and then Blade Blast in the bow 6-link

I'm... not entirely sure how it works actually, since now that I think about it you'd still need to use a bow skill to trigger Maloney's Mechanism

[hard cliff]

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH

[icy zinc]

me when im asked to press two buttons but i got 10 fingers

[fierce rock]

we're all playing blade blade on league start, right?

[icy zinc]

and 10 fingers on toes when i could set them up for extra buttons in pedals

[hard cliff]

I'm kinda high tell me the exact two volley and blast gems cause they have like 12 transfigured versions

[pulsar dune]

Both cis for this build

[tall belfry]

I deadass might just throw all the complicated shit out and just play wildspeaker as raider+

[hard cliff]

4 link Blade Volley Spell Cascade ---> Six Link blade blast

Would this cook ?

[thick goblet]

yessir another triple foot pedal user

[proud gorge]

base Bladefall and base Blade Blast

are the only two that synergize

[pulsar dune]

Bladefall 4l, but yea

[proud gorge]

Volley bladefall doesn't drop blades, and the other two Blade Blasts don't consume bladefall blades

[tall belfry]

With enhanced avian and enhanced cat, wildspeaker gonna play like raider mixed with deadeye

HMMM

[hard cliff]

What are you triggering that middlee pedal with sir

🤨

[tall belfry]

Foot

[proud gorge]

oh, it's Replica Maloney's Mechanism

[hard cliff]

Now the hardest question

What the hell do I play this on in phrecia ?

[proud gorge]

that makes sense

[hard cliff]

Nightgrip antiqutarian feels too awkard

[proud gorge]

Okay so that's a fun tech actually yeah

[hard cliff]

Scav I guess works but nothing crazy

[tall belfry]

Bog

[hard cliff]

Everyone is playing bog witch 😩

[pulsar dune]

Gambler

Convert to ele, get 90% invert

[stable pumice]

OI anyone has recomendations for headsets (pref with 7.1 surround sys) xD

[pulsar dune]

Then idk, farrul bloodline

[hard cliff]

That's crazy lol

How would you convert without wasting a lot of investment ?

He's also really far from spell nodes

[pulsar dune]

IDK, haven't thought that far tbh

[proud gorge]

Replica Maloney's Mechanism (trigger a socketed spell when you cast a spell while wielding a bow), triggers a bow skill, which itself triggers MFA in your chest 6l, which casts Rain of Arrows of Saturation, which crits and triggers Bladefall a bunch of times. And then you cast Blade Blast manually to consume those fallen blades, which triggers Replica Maloney's Mechanism, and the cycle repeats itself.

that's a fun one

[pulsar dune]

There's also paladin I guess

Wait that's actually a cool unique

[proud gorge]

go Harbinger

they have cooldown recovery rate

[hard cliff]

Me: I cast bladefall which leaves behind blades and then I hit blade blast to blow them all up for aoe damage !!
Path of Exile veteran: Replica Maloney's Mechanism (trigger a socketed spell when you cast a spell while wielding a bow), triggers a bow skill, which itself triggers MFA in your chest 6l, which casts Rain of Arrows of Saturation, which crits and triggers Bladefall a bunch of times. And then you cast Blade Blast manually to consume those fallen blades, which triggers Replica Maloney's Mechanism, and the cycle repeats itself.

🥴

[fierce rock]

me: lol blade blade

[hard cliff]

Harbinger is a cool idea

I like that

You'd get what action speed harbi

oh man this is a piano ass build if I don't automate bladefall

[proud gorge]

automate it lmao

[hard cliff]

Not the literal automate

would be sick tho

[proud gorge]

I mean the entire point of Bladefall Blade Blast is to automate the bladefalls somehow

[hard cliff]

Why can't I use bladefall of tarthus to perpetually put blades all around me and then detonate them for a melee range explode caster

[proud gorge]

otherwise its damage is kind of mediocre for a 2 button build

[hard cliff]

and get I dunno archmage on it

and stack mana

[pulsar dune]

You can, but BFoT drops them pretty slowly afaik

Tho archmage blade blast is afaik a real build

The skill does have good DE

[proud gorge]

yeah, Bladefall of Trarthus is both slow and also expensive

very disappointing

[hard cliff]

Archmage would be cool but how do you even build it without heiro

[pulsar dune]

Dexstack ranger, but tree position lmao

[proud gorge]

I mean, you'd need to get mana cost reduction from somewhere probably?

[pulsar dune]

Mana sustain will probably still be too rough tho

[proud gorge]

I don't think any ascendancies give mana cost reduction

so you'd probably have to play something Templar then FF the mana cost

which is always annoying

to have to FF a core part of your build's base functionality

but yeah, Bladefall/Blade Blast is very much a build where you need to be triggering Bladefall constantly

[hard cliff]

This would be insane lol

[proud gorge]

that's what gives you all your damage

the insane amount of blades everywhere on screen at all times

[hard cliff]

ooof FF

[proud gorge]

if you're just manual casting Bladefall into Blade Blast, it's probably pretty mediocre damage

[hard cliff]

Arcanist brand ?

[proud gorge]

could work yeah

still requires you to push a button, but way less frequently

oh, you know what build you could use for Archmage actually

[hard cliff]

👀

[proud gorge]

Architect of Chaos

[hard cliff]

Don't say ball lightning

[proud gorge]

and just cast Vaal Clarity a bunch

lmao

[hard cliff]

wtf lol

Just automate a no mana flask at that point

the unique one

[elfin shale]

You can get 100% uptime even when afk

[elfin shale]

Needs a Triumivirate Authority tho

[simple stag]

I don't want to play bog RF leaguestart i dont wanna i dont wanna

[proud gorge]

Lavianga's Spirit flask, the problem with Lavianga's is that it's a mana flask so its effect gets shut off the moment you hit max mana

[hard cliff]

Glacial cascade mines scav looks strong

[fierce rock]

you know what, i don't feel like POBing, i'm just gonna play whisperer kboc, problem solved

[hard cliff]

It's my backup build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQUfIwGNwJA

[proud gorge]

it doesn't have the "effect doesn't end at full mana" effect

[hard cliff]

that's true

[proud gorge]

so Lavianga's has very limited viability, even if you could somehow fill its charges every 3.25 seconds

[hard cliff]

I tried it before on a MoM archmage charecter it was awkward and not really helpful

[proud gorge]

and also you can't use the flask enchant on a mana flask to autoactivate it

so you'd have to mash that flask every 3.25 seconds manually

[hard cliff]

JUST KEEP TAPPING 3

the whole map

while also tapping q and e for your damage skill

don't forget to curse and use your movement skill

https://tenor.com/view/cat-piano-cute-gif-8240085

[proud gorge]

but yeah, imo Vaal Clarity might genuinely be the secret tech for Archmage

a very silly concept

but hey, if it works it works

[simple stag]

but but the goal is cws bog but i just dont want to RF cry

[proud gorge]

tap Vaal Clarity and start channeling your Archmage channel skill

[pulsar dune]

There are a lot of bog leaguestarters, no?

[proud gorge]

so many yeah

[tight plinth]

✋

[proud gorge]

it's a very popular ascendancyy

even if you're not doing lifestack things, Toad Pact is just really strong

[tight plinth]

im starting to rethink my choices lol

[simple stag]

whats another good one other than RF

[proud gorge]

I know Sacrifice Blade Vortex is one

[tight plinth]

rf is a good one?

[proud gorge]

anything with good DoT damage that uses AoE I guess

maybe Death's Oath?

that seems weird

[hard cliff]

CWS abuser 👎

Is my build dead @proud gorge ?

[tight plinth]

yes

[simple stag]

Bro I've never played it before that can't count as abuse

[tranquil umbra]

I will be flickering my life away in phrecia

[proud gorge]

honestly Toad Pact is strong enough that you could just slap any AoE skill in there and call it a day

[hard cliff]

[tall belfry]

All the buffs did in my eyes was move bog shaman from the middle top to the top, everything else kinda looks like it's in the same place tbh

[hard cliff]

Do you even know what we're talking about @tight plinth @tight plinth ????????????????

[tight plinth]

yesnt

[hard cliff]

base Bladefall and base Blade Blast BUILD

Spell cascade bladefall (Arcanist brand?)

That's as far as I've gotten

[tall belfry]

Bleugh

Play scavenger

[hard cliff]

I might

[proud gorge]

that build's fine yeah, the main thing is that you'd want to give it flat spell damage, since it's a spell build

[hard cliff]

I can basically play CI with shavs

but with free auras

Poooogers

[fierce rock]

i feel like every new league leads to blade blade discussion

[proud gorge]

either go Poison (it's very strong with poison) or go some other source of good spell damage

[tight plinth]

go scav, get fulcrum node, get elemental conflux from amulet, get that graft that gets gain %phys as elemental, ??? , profit

[tall belfry]

Harbi just looks worse now tbh

[proud gorge]

or, uh, honestly it's probably playable with just blade blast damage

on Harbinger

they get a lot of CDR

and some nice action speed

the CDR is the main portion though

[tall belfry]

You can only have one active harbinger right? So moving the summons to the front means you're likely just losing a full point

[hard cliff]

What if you get HARBINGER NODE and go herald of ash + thunder and get the elemnetal conflux node plus elemental overload and phys to lightning plus the mastery and just convert everything to elemental stuff

that'd be CRAZY

[proud gorge]

elemental Blade Blast could work

I've never played it like that though

so I can't exactly comment on that build lmao

[hard cliff]

Very controversial

I feel like I'm gonna run out of blades before I start needing cast speed to blow them all up

[tall belfry]

I remember avatar of fire bfbb being meta for a while

[proud gorge]

also what do you mean Harbinger node

[tight plinth]

that was like when chief had %phys as fire iirc

[tall belfry]

Probably

[hard cliff]

[tall belfry]

I remember it was nerfs to bfbb that killed it tho, not nerfs to chief

[tight plinth]

was there a nerf to bfbb?

[tall belfry]

There have been many, direct and indirect

[lean urchin]

did i lose?

[proud gorge]

you mean, herald?

[hard cliff]

Yes harold

[tall belfry]

Don't do drugs kids

[proud gorge]

that's Herald, not Harbinger

[tight plinth]

harold ignite

[hard cliff]

I know I am considering both of them

[tight plinth]

pira

[proud gorge]

ah

[tight plinth]

pira

[hard cliff]

I don't know that cast speed from harbi is gonna be worth

WHAT

[tight plinth]

herald reap ignite

[hard cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpBr9r3kpvA

?????????

I just played that lol

[tight plinth]

i know

[hard cliff]

It's good

[tight plinth]

[hard cliff]

Damn

https://tenor.com/view/collide-ran-over-fell-hit-smacked-gif-14193380

[proud gorge]

honestly I do want to try playing that Replica Maloney's Mechanism version of the build

it seems fun

and apparently the version I saw is played on Saboteur of all things

[tight plinth]

i think harold reap ignite could

[proud gorge]

since it's a bunch of triggers in a row, and that means Triggerbots doubles it at each step

[tall belfry]

Truggers

[hard cliff]

it sounds really janky

[proud gorge]

which is very funny

[hard cliff]

sabo trigger bots always up to nonsese

[icy zinc]

but awakened spell cascade cold convert reap

:\

[simple stag]

Arright I surrender wildspeaker flicker login

[tight plinth]

oooooh ooh, how about that trap throwing glove thingy

[proud gorge]

cast a spell, Replica Maloney's triggers twice. Each of those triggers Rain of Arrows of Saturation twice, which each trigger Bladefall twice.

[tight plinth]

the new one

[proud gorge]

And then you have an absolute shit ton of blades to blow up

[proud gorge]

the trigger bots are a bit weird, but I think the big issue with them comes from when you're trying to get them to actually cast spells on enemies, particularly projectile spells that can be blocked by objects

but in this particular build the only things the Triggerbots are casting are Rain of Arrows of Saturation and Bladefall

[hard cliff]

Trooogers booots

[proud gorge]

both of which have a targetting scheme of "eh somewhere in that vague direction"

[hard cliff]

that sounds so crackhead

why not just arcanist brand bro

why

[tall belfry]

Aka the best form of targeting

[hard cliff]

it's ok I can press two buttons

[proud gorge]

because that requires you to press two buttons

[hard cliff]

😩

[icy zinc]

🅱️ines

[tall belfry]

Wait I take this back

Whispering ice completely dogshit

[proud gorge]

but also in reality it's because with Triggerbots doubling it at each step, you get an absolute fuckload of bladefalls

they're all cascaded too

[hard cliff]

So this isn't worth playing ?

[proud gorge]

what, the Arcanist Brand version? No that's also good

and a lot less complicated lmao

[tall belfry]

Oh

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/ares-god-of-war-xwp-hercules-the-legendary-journeys-kevin-tod-smith-gif-27217928

[tall belfry]

[proud gorge]

for one thing you get, like, a real weapon

could go Jiquani's

[tall belfry]

Whispering ice bog shaman

Sounds fuckin CRACKED

[proud gorge]

Jiquani's Bladefall Blade Blast Arcanist Brand

[icy zinc]

well ye the mine is popped

gone

[proud gorge]

Int Stack

could go either ES with low life or full Lifestack memes with Mask of the Stitched Demon

[tall belfry]

Lifestack whispering ice sounds very funny

[proud gorge]

the Triggerbots version is very much quantity over quality

[tight plinth]

is triggerbots in phrecia?

[proud gorge]

hmm, I've had a thought

[proud gorge]

you could get it with FF

[oak blade]

ff jewels

[proud gorge]

but I'm just talking about a non-phrecia build

[icy zinc]

damn well herald of purity from herald kinda gives a bit too much stuff for reap actually

even in campaign

[proud gorge]

I gotta wonder how Whispering Ice icestorm works if you have Whispering Ice in one weapon set and Jiquani's in the other weapon set

[warm musk]

How bad is my self cook aristocrat? https://pobb.in/2tVrnTheE3tz

[icy zinc]

uhm i think i know a starter then

[proud gorge]

then swap to Jiquani's after the Icestorm is already casting

I have to assume the icestorm snapshots when cast, right?

[tall belfry]

It snapshots

[proud gorge]

so you can't weapon swap Jiquani's for damage

yeah

[hard cliff]

I like it

this is league start viable

[proud gorge]

I mean, there's definitely ways of going snapshotting things, but that overall seems pretty reasonable

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Jiquani's_Potential

[lean urchin]

the better whispering ice

[proud gorge]

hmm, the problem with Int Stack Aristocrat Jiquani's Mask of the Sitched Demon memes is that you start on the bottom side of the tree

[lean urchin]

old whispering ice trash now

[proud gorge]

and all your good spell damage and spell crit stuff is up top

[hard cliff]

rippperooni

how could I use the action speed boost of harbi

and the increased duration

forever arcanaist brand lol

[proud gorge]

I mean action speed is just cast speed

I believe it also affects your arcanist brand trigger rate

plus you're fast

[hard cliff]

why can't you run eblade off this ???

[proud gorge]

you can definitely still go Aristocrat, there's plenty of people running Int Stack Aristocrat, just requires a bit of passive tree pathing

[icy zinc]

that should make a4 so smooth

[proud gorge]

hmm, interesting. That's alright Energy Shield, not amazing, but it does let you leave your life unreserved lmao. But it should make int-stack better, since you already get mana from int

[icy zinc]

mf

its cruel lab

[proud gorge]

I dunno if that produces enough ES for eblade though

[icy zinc]

i hate herald now

[onyx adder]

U probably can if u can figure out recovery

[proud gorge]

but you know what definitely produces enough ES for Eblade

Foulborn Ghostwrithe lmao

lifestack foulborn ghostwrithe

[onyx adder]

Inquis used to run doryani timeless its the same shit

[hard cliff]

Chaos innoculation and Wicked Ward + Spell leech

[proud gorge]

Jiquani's Mask of the Stitched Demon Foulborn Ghostwrithe Int Stack Eblade

[onyx adder]

CI es bypass

[proud gorge]

no wait

that makes no sense

you can't eblade and jiquani's at the same time

[onyx adder]

Man out here surviving on pure optimism and a dream

[hard cliff]

ohhh it's non chaos

NON CHAOS

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tall belfry]

We have fully devolved

[onyx adder]

Well yeah

100% of chaos damage already bypasses energy shield

U potato

[proud gorge]

I mean, the benefit of that node is that it gives you base ES scaling off max life and mana without needing to reserve it

so you have a full unreserved life pool

and also some ES for whatever ES-related activities you want to engage in

[hard cliff]

Insane survivability

[proud gorge]

well, it's alright

but we have Foulborn Ghostwrithe this league

[hard cliff]

I kinda wish I could just go archmage tbh

[tall belfry]

My favorite es related activity, smoking crack and coping on es

[onyx adder]

Unfortunately even if u stack bypass to 100%, taking damage to the thing ur ES protects turns off recharge

Even though with 100% bypass ur ES doesnt take damage

[proud gorge]

you could, but it's just a bit harder to make Archmage work

without Heiro in the main tree

[lean urchin]

flesh and fire thing

flame

[proud gorge]

yeah, you can FF Divine Guidance

oh wait, apparently Heiro had their mana cost reduction node removed

[proud gorge]

I'll be completely honest, Archmage Arcanist Brand Bladefall/Bladeblast is so much better on just base non-Phrecia Heiro, since they already have both mana nodes and a brand activation frequency node

[hard cliff]

It's on guardian

the 50% res

[past mantle]

How fast do farrul tigers hit? Can they sustain 15 stacks at 20% wither without investment into them in any way?

[hard cliff]

You are right

how can I juice this

[proud gorge]

I don't mean the reservation efficiency node, I think Heiro used to have a node that just gave skill mana cost reduction

[hard cliff]

wow

[proud gorge]

which was more or less required to hit 100% reduced mana cost and thus free archmage spells

but maybe I'm misremembering

[icy zinc]

ceo of ruthless

[hard cliff]

I'm still unclear on if you can have two harbis or not

and I don't know if anyone knows

😩

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Flow_Untethered

[soft perch]

u can only have one harb from the ascendancy

[signal hawk]

You can't have two harbis

[hard cliff]

that's awesome man

[soft perch]

gear harbs are fine

[proud gorge]

okay apparently I'm dumb, and Heiro never had a node that gave skill mana cost reduction

[soft perch]

can have gear harb + ascend harb

[hazy kiln]

you can have one total harby from uniques and any number from ascendancies

[signal hawk]

I mean what the guys are saying

[soft perch]

huh

[proud gorge]

so I guess it must be possible to hit 100% reduced mana cost of skills from tree alone

[soft perch]

isnt it the other way around

[hazy kiln]

the wiki says you can only have one ascendancy harby for some reason but it's wrong

[soft perch]

oh

[hard cliff]

Thanks viper

Wiki bro's please update

[proud gorge]

oh hey nice

[soft perch]

neat

[proud gorge]

I'll update the wiki

and cite viper

[hazy kiln]

can you source https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1qo8oxi/the_harbinger_node_order_changes_make_no_sense/o22w654/?context=3

instead of me

[proud gorge]

got it

[signal hawk]

baited by the wiki

[tall belfry]

Oh that's super nice

Fuck yes

[tight plinth]

wait what?

[hazy kiln]

can you have multiple from uniques?

I might be wrong on that 😅

[onyx adder]

I mean theres only one good harbinger anyway but still kinda nice

[hazy kiln]

you can definitely have multiple from the ascendancy anyway

[hard cliff]

ok harbi is gonna be insane

thanks viper I'mma roll harbinger this league

LOCKED IN

[proud gorge]

I'm honestly not quite sure how to edit this, I can't just delete the line that says "you can only have one harbinger" because I have to I guess replace it with "You can definitely have more than one harbinger"

[native abyss]

im torn between harbinger and harvest

[tall belfry]

Delete the line and then throw it into notes

[proud gorge]

I'm replacing it with "You are allowed 1 of each Visiting Harbinger from Ascendancy notables, which is independent of the maximum of 1 Summoned Harbinger from unique items."

[tall belfry]

If it's cited it's good

[charred condor]

what are some good phercia builds

[proud gorge]

since that seems clear while also providing helpful info

[tall belfry]

🤮

[proud gorge]

what's wrong with that

[hard cliff]

Glacial Cascade mines looks good

[tight plinth]

you watched that lady youtuber didnt you?

[proud gorge]

I'm down to change up the syntax if you object to the syntax

[tall belfry]

It reads like a manifesto

[proud gorge]

I mean

it's an entry on a wiki page

it's informational

[icy zinc]

harb of time with harb of arcane for a caster?

more likely than you think

[hard cliff]

I found it randomly then someone else here also did

but yeah it looks good

[charred condor]

oh ok

would you say the phrecia league was good?

[hard cliff]

You get 10% lightning pen so that helps decide what to play

[tall belfry]

"Summoned Harbingers from notable ascendancy nodes do not interact with the maximum one summoned harbinger from related unique items, such as x"

[tight plinth]

i also saw it yesterday i think

[hard cliff]

It's certainly interesting

I just wanna play more poe lol

[proud gorge]

I think it should be written to make it clear that you can have multiple

since people have defaulted to assuming otherwise in the past

[tall belfry]

Idk

Game sense wise, since it's not a single modal node

[proud gorge]

oh hey, someone already edited the main page

[tall belfry]

I and most people Ive talked to assumed you could have em all

[proud gorge]

I'll just copy their syntax

"The Harbinger granted by this skill does not share a limit with Harbingers from Harbinger uniques and can be summoned simultaneously."