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[spice pecan]

i was clean for about a year and a half

[native token]

seems insane numberwise

[normal hedge]

[coarse trench]

DOTA 2 came out in 2013. That'es less than an hour a day.

[hexed mountain]

I still play between leagues but casual

[spice pecan]

also on NA servers it's more ppl from peru or other SA countries rather than russia, but ye

[normal hedge]

league of lol became Sona simulator that's just too boring

[split maple]

I need me ranger leveled for keepers so I am kinda forced into whispy

Pleasantly forced

[hexed mountain]

Ah yes. In EU there are more russians (obviously)

[spice pecan]

honestly i get more english speakers on EU servers than i do NA, ngl

or at least ppl willing to speak english

[crude moat]

I used to love dota, until I grew up and got myself a life
But then I started playing PoE and here I am

[earnest raven]

Blyat

[oak blade]

kboc whisperer was insane last phrecia and its only been buffed since then

idk how whisperer didnt get touched

[spice pecan]

this one is baffling, i agree

[oak blade]

bog shaman getting a buff too is crazy

[spice pecan]

i thought 100% that the 1 mana per 1 dex mod was going to be 1 mana per 2 dex

[crude moat]

Whispered did tho, it got some buffs

[oak blade]

none of the important nodes got any changes

[normal hedge]

don't think ggg knows there's a funny graft that gives you 5x single target dmg

[hexed mountain]

Surprised it got buffed i thought whisperer was about top4 class and top 3 got nerfed

[crude moat]

From 4% mana to 6% is not a small buff lol

[oak blade]

not important node

[young moss]

they left whisperer alone for all the sweats

[oak blade]

playing anything other than kboc is troll lowkey

and that node is dead on kboc

[coarse trench]

I will say for anyone new to PoE, i would specifically not recommend BV <or> bogshaman and definitely not as the double whammy. BV is pretty specific in how it plays (and has low ass range even with the bogshaman node) and bogshaman is both gear dependant (Made easier with us having keepers, but still), AND looking to be popular so certain gear pieces will be expensiiive

[hexed mountain]

Fusillade is insane

[spice pecan]

also scav barely got nerfed, 100% phys to fire is still easy as fuck on it

[spice pecan]

i agree with not playing BV if you are new

[earnest raven]

Ggg giving us something to cook with. We gonna be rich again

[crude moat]

MFA was the meta for whisperer last phrecia buddy, kb was only the entry budget version

[hexed mountain]

And woke fork is GAMING on fusillade

[spice pecan]

also bog shaman has a ton of harsh downsides that you have to know how to solve

[split maple]

Mfa is gonna be fun

[oak blade]

oh yeah lowkey i forgot that shit existed

[spice pecan]

mfa whisperer was the giga juice transition from kboc

[oak blade]

it got killed outside of whisperer so it completely skipped my mind xd

[spice pecan]

that shit fucking blows on like sub-50d gear tho

[coarse trench]

I feel like GGG forgot it existed too since whisperer didn't take the nerfhammer like AC/Scav/Blind lol

[crude moat]

Yup

[oak blade]

5i remember connor baiting everyone LMAO

[hexed mountain]

Connor always baits

[spice pecan]

at this point if you play a conner build, you either know what's going on or you're baiting yourself

lmaoo

[split maple]

But like mfa Will be hella comfy - due to foulborns you can swap to it straight after indigon with Just conventional manastack instead of having to go direct dexstacking so way cheaper swap + lategame you can go lightning res stack

[crude moat]

Connor baited everybody's leaguestart ye lmao, but is it really a league/event without Connor baiting?

[oak blade]

idek why blind prophet took a nerf tbh

[coarse trench]

If connor isn't baiting with a build he's ragebaiting his community with some other insane take.
It's like quinn and dps

[oak blade]

pretty much everything that abused it got nerfed

[golden moat]

flicker wildspeaker, login

[spice pecan]

molten strike is/was still a very heavy hitter on BP

and regular ms didn't get touched iirc

[split maple]

Nerfing scav and prophet while buffing whisperer is crazy crazy

Makes me happy tho 😄

[hexed mountain]

Wildspeaker was already decent should be strong yeah

[spice pecan]

the scav nerf is like nothing

you can still get 100% phys to fire for almost nothing

[split maple]

Yeah it's funny tho

[hard cliff]

scav was buffed

[oak blade]

scav was overperforming pretty hard so i definitely saw a nerf coming

[golden moat]

wildspeaker gets unbelieveably tanky for a flicker build

[spice pecan]

and then everything else about scav was buffed lol

[oak blade]

but whisperer was also ridiculous

[crude moat]

I'm praying for eclipse not to get nerfed next league
It shouldn't as it only got like 0.2% usage and most people just look at it as a leveling wand

[spice pecan]

unless you're playing like pc stack scav

[split maple]

Wildspeaker bows gonna be comfy day1

[spice pecan]

why pc stack when sanctum deadge tho

[hexed mountain]

Scav gets hilarious graft scaling with the phys as extra tho

[oak blade]

bog shaman buff was huge

[spice pecan]

it unfortunately killed my group build

but yeah

[oak blade]

gg 😭

it lost almost every downside and gained like 40% more dmg

[hexed mountain]

Behemoth is just short of determination to be good

[fickle glen]

When taking an elemental damage while having mind over matter and glancing blows and 75% elemental resistance , in which order do these defenses go when reducing the damage?

[crude moat]

They nerfed both the passives I'm gonna use lmao 😭
But it wasn't as bad, only 3k less ehp and like 4% dps

[spice pecan]

i was taking 2 notables and the rest in just small nodes for curse effect xd

typical phrecia small node spam stuff

[oak blade]

oh wow yeah they totally deleted your build xd

[hexed mountain]

The small node change on gambler is cool

[spice pecan]

i mean it's -40% curse effect, and cursebot already kind of isn't good

so at this point there's not rly a use case for it

[split maple]

So only waiting for idol datamine to fuck us over now

[hexed mountain]

Better than pyroclast mine of sabotage support

[oak blade]

they removed blasphemy reservation efficiency too

[spice pecan]

they what

okay no its literally dead as fuck then

LMAO

[hexed mountain]

For +1 curse

[oak blade]

i thought you knew LMAO

[hexed mountain]

But yeah if you use the ring

[oak blade]

they legit just deleted it

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/9ym0_C1m7GZm

[clear igloo]

Does "now has" mean "the node is replaced with" or that it also grants this and this in addition to what was before?

[spice pecan]

F

[oak blade]

i believe its in addition to

cuz the wildspeaker dex node has that wording

[hexed mountain]

Now has is a bonus. They write if they remove

[oak blade]

but i dont think theyd delete the entire scaling vector for the ascendancy xd

[clear igloo]

nice... thanks

[oak blade]

i wonder how good herald is gonna be with the lycia bloodline

is it lycia

i cant remember

[hard cliff]

can someone tell me if this concept on behemoth is worth? https://pobb.in/Jgqq6Y7yuLYE

losing extra rage cost sucks 😭

[golden moat]

this looks fun

wildspeaker

[hexed mountain]

Hard to make lycia worth it with 200% herald reservation effectiveness

They are going to cost nothing

[split maple]

Lycia and Harold are like water and oil

[oak blade]

oh yeah didnt read first node whoops xd

[sour umbra]

Im poeing it. Im poeing it so good

[hexed mountain]

Unless you go lone messenger and 6L herald of thunder to get an omega herald with the 150% effect on herald

You can probably get like 2000 flat lightning

[oak blade]

is leveling ranger as wander decent now

i cannot be bothered to level as bows then swap to wands

+4 frenzy power and fork should probably be good enough right

[umbral crag]

Ye

[hexed mountain]

Fusillade with woke fork is super good

[lucid gale]

Cascades of burning oil?

https://tenor.com/view/cocina-incendio-aceite-gif-9842669

[hexed mountain]

+2 wisp is cool too though

[oak blade]

its kinda hard to beat whisperer 4 point though

4 min frenzy power is super nice

• woke fork

[hexed mountain]

Yeah

Wolves is really strong too

[split maple]

Lily said you make cookies I am worried now 😮

[oak blade]

anyone have ranger wander leveling pob

[golden moat]

voidforge build login

[oak blade]

im too noob to make my own

also known as im too lazy

[spice pecan]

is that old ralakesh

[oak blade]

kboc should be usable in campaign with woke fork right

if can get it early

[hexed mountain]

You go up left to wand nodes through int and later respec to right side near ghost dance

[spice pecan]

get piscator's vigil and mind of the council and generally yes

[golden moat]

negative

[spice pecan]

at least that's what i did in 3.25

[split maple]

You won't get mind od the council in campaign unless you slow af

[spice pecan]

isn't it like level 40 req?

[split maple]

It's rareish

[spice pecan]

ah

[hexed mountain]

Because if you take the endgame pathing from ranger as wander you dont touch a wand node before LONG

[spice pecan]

i know fractal thoughts is the helm you'd rather have before indigon but that shit was spendy

[oak blade]

i think mind was pretty expensive early too

[split maple]

I wouldn't go whisperer before indigon at all tbh

[spice pecan]

may have been, but less so than fractal

[split maple]

Just do wildspeaker

[spice pecan]

and fractal thoughts + toilet brush was good enough to blast thru t16s

[split maple]

And it's kinda easier to get indigon than fractal or mind

[golden moat]

choir is gonna be stonks

[tranquil sedge]

whisperer BUFF?

[hard cliff]

Hello Exiles Mark Roberts here with grinding gear games. I'm happy to announce the theme of The next league is going to be everyone's favorite nerfs. That's right in order to keep the game fun and challenging we decided to nerf play our power across the board by 25% with top and build thing up to 50% less damage at the same investment.

[golden moat]

at least early

[tranquil sedge]

how the fuck is whisperer buffed when 3.27 was so full of nerfs lmfao

[spice pecan]

i had a stroke at the end of this paragraph

[tranquil sedge]

man phrecia players eating good

[lucid gale]

Gotta know what not to do.
Cookies are generally not super flammable tho - at best they can action slow or serve as kinetic projectiles.

[oak blade]

i was already pretty likely to play whisperer kboc

and then it got buffed

well

[spice pecan]

my trio bog shaman cursebot pob is omega deadge

[golden moat]

ggg said hell nah to slams for phercia

[split maple]

Kinetic fusilade of cookies?

[oak blade]

kboc got buffed this league and whisperer nodes for it are untouched

[spice pecan]

so now i have to find another build to play for duo/trio

i need herro to save me

[tranquil sedge]

how bad are the ac changes overall

[hexed mountain]

Not much

[spice pecan]

lost an endu charge, dod node nerfed to 10 instead of 15

uhh

still looks pretty immortal

[tranquil sedge]

so slammers still gonna be a thing then

[lucid gale]

So what builds are y'all keen on, still bog standard?

[tranquil sedge]

and looks like antiquarian buffs for @frigid wedge

[golden moat]

AC is now worse than Jugg 🙂

[tranquil sedge]

aint no jugg to compare it to tho xd

[oak blade]

whisperer kboc and bog shaman anythin

[tranquil sedge]

so if u wanna slam

[simple stag]

Yessir

[spice pecan]

since cursebot is very dead, i might play a crybot with banners support, not sure

[hexed mountain]

Oshabi looking sweet

[ocean field]

Sightless now has "Base Critical Strike Chance for Attacks with Weapons is 9%" (previously 12%) NOOOOOOOOOOO

[split maple]

Not rly

[tranquil sedge]

manaforged arrows whisperer is gonna be in like the top 3 strongest builds, if not top 1 outright

[spice pecan]

they did nuke the cdr on warcries for AC

[tranquil sedge]

depends how rich people get in 3 weeks to invest into it

[spice pecan]

instead of 120% increased, it's now 30% reduced

[tidal spear]

What kind of build would use the elemental conflux node well from herald? Idk why im interested in it. A wander with elemental hit?

[lucid gale]

Any fun interactions with the league league?

[tranquil sedge]

foulborn choir go brr

[spice pecan]

so earthshitter ac isn't looking like the unga bunga choice

[split maple]

Sione node is now 4 Pointer tho but gives 2 strikes 🤔 that's kinda annoying

[hexed mountain]

I think harbinger impending doom will be quite high on tier lists too probably quite a few beacons of madness users with the huge expiry rate buff

[split maple]

For zenith ac

[simple stag]

If i say it will you stealth nerf before event 🙁

[golden moat]

strike node is 4 points, 120% increased warcry cdr, defiance is not even worse taking now at 10% tbh, and theres no end game scaling rly for the ascendancy while jugg has that scaling. so can u explain wdym not rly?

[spice pecan]

oh also ac got woke ancestral call

non vaal strikes target 2 extra, up from 1

[oak blade]

they increased duration last phrecia so if a lot of people play itll probably get increased again

[split maple]

You Will still have double Max hit of jugg

But yea DPS suffers

[tranquil sedge]

wonder with all this if baron helmet gets a buff in 3.28

that thing is kinda outdated

[spice pecan]

dps doesnt even suffer on ac if you are playing anything not named earthshitter or gen cry

[lucid gale]

I have no fingers in this, plenty busy with my own stuff.

[hexed mountain]

Lowkey AC is a flicker strike asc now

[tranquil sedge]

yea but i wish it gets announced before not during/after

[hard cliff]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jG1ajZvbL8o

[hoary scarab]

dang, mostly buffs huh

[tranquil sedge]

that wording so what are your fingers in then
-# susge

[spice pecan]

and worst case scenario is, you play earthshitter ac and you have to path over to deep breaths or you run dry generals cry in your autoexert. wow, what an opportunity cost

[grizzled lily]

[spice pecan]

[hoary scarab]

his own stuff duh

[simple stag]

Ok ok aul bog // aul oshabi is just going to be smooth sailing

[hexed mountain]

I wonder how much evasion is even realistic for oshabi. With flasks up

100-150k?

[spice pecan]

wait i just reread whisperer

"we know all now has "100% increased Mana Cost of Skills" (previously 50%) and also now has "Attack Skills have Added Lightning Damage equal to 6% of maximum Mana" (previously 4%)"

[tranquil sedge]

yea thats a buff lol

[spice pecan]

mana costs could get out of hand really quick but lategame that's nuts

[hard cliff]

what main axe or sword attack skill really likes rage besides vortex?

might use rage vortex as a secondary attack

[hexed mountain]

Cleave of rage?

[oak blade]

i mean all attack builds really like rage tbh lol

30% more dmg

[hard cliff]

I dunt really need to generate rage

[split maple]

Excluded mod list looks kinda more reasonable than I expected too

Gonna be a fun event assuming idols didn't get changed overly

[hexed mountain]

Glad they didnt forgor ailment

[silent leaf]

Anything really if you run Grey winds

[tranquil sedge]

are there ppl who're gonna play oshabi just for that forest tracking node somehow

[hexed mountain]

Its triple dreamfeather its big

[hard cliff]

Kaoms

[hexed mountain]

Like 100K eva grants 620% damage

[silent leaf]

Kaom's bu-

[spice pecan]

even with double regular dreamfeather, you still dont get to double dip on evasion, so i think its bait

[hexed mountain]

And unlike dreamfeather you arent locked to a crap weapon

[golden moat]

true, then u just take iron reflexes lol

[tranquil sedge]

wdym double dip

[spice pecan]

comparing to armor stacker with iron reflexes and replica dreamfeather

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but you dont go omegastack

[spice pecan]

why would you not

[tidal spear]

What kind of build would use the elemental conflux node well from herald? Idk why im interested in it. A wander with elemental hit?

[hexed mountain]

I mean you could but you cant really aplly evasion to spells through applying to ele like armour

[simple stag]

Lost unity maybe

[hexed mountain]

Feels like omegastacking eva makes you a lot squishier than armour

[spice pecan]

it's attack damage anyways

[delicate otter]

I mean yeah. Evasion isn't mitigation

[hexed mountain]

I would probably just stack an efficient amount of eva and build normaly on the side

[spice pecan]

and yea with how eva entropy system works, you are going to get hit

[simple stag]

Herald of hive needs ailment affliction to increase frequency and that just gives u all of it at 100% chance so would be useful

[hard cliff]

the axe

[tranquil sedge]

phrecia oshabi builds sorted by evasion: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia?class=Daughter+of+Oshabi&sort=evasion&columns=character%2Clevel%2Clife%2Cenergyshield%2Cehp%2Cevasion%2Cdps%2Ckeystoneskill

phrecia oshabi builds sorted by dps:
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia?class=Daughter+of+Oshabi&sort=dps&columns=character%2Clevel%2Clife%2Cenergyshield%2Cehp%2Cevasion%2Cdps%2Ckeystoneskill

[spice pecan]

does a 20k eva build need 12% increased attack damage for 2/4 asc points tho

that's like one large cluster node

[hexed mountain]

By efficient i mean like 100K

[tranquil sedge]

in this case efficient is probably 6 digits

[hexed mountain]

Or 200 if you invest

[spice pecan]

but that's like, pure evasion bases with grace right

[hexed mountain]

Thats with flasks up

[spice pecan]

oh, that too, right

[hexed mountain]

There is the more evas flask

[tidal spear]

Elemental xonflux on that huh

[tranquil sedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/nnnisu-2127/evaaaaaaaa?i=0&search=class%3DDaughter%2Bof%2BOshabi%26sort%3Devasion%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cevasion%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill
this is the oshabi build with the highest evasion from phrecia, 757k on ninja

[spice pecan]

that's... somewhat underwhelming

tbh

[hexed mountain]

Its a bit weird because hybrid chest doubled would be insane ES for a good max hit. But pure evasion chest is a lot of damage

[spice pecan]

yeah, i was thinking either armor/eva hybrids everywhere, or at least a necrotic chest if you wanted pure eva everywhere else

[oak blade]

757k for barely actually building into evasion looks not too bad tbh

[crystal talon]

5000% inc damage
"somewhat underwhelming" 😔

[tidal spear]

What skill for fast hits and also close enough to use thr pulses dmg tho?

[hexed mountain]

You want a half decent ES on top of your life if you eva stack, for ghost dance imo

[spice pecan]

compared to other ls builds at the time that probably had half the investment... yes

[simple stag]

HoT if u want to stay in theme ofc

[tranquil sedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/nicolai34-3106/Bistand_Mana?i=2&search=class%3DDaughter%2Bof%2BOshabi%26sort%3Ddps%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cevasion%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/aqwwee-0116/PH_DDOS?i=1&search=class%3DDaughter%2Bof%2BOshabi%26sort%3Ddps%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cevasion%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill

meanwwhile these LS builds have only ~100k, but much higher poeninja numbers for LS, but with way endgame gear

so it depends on how u can make ur evasion work for u lol

[hexed mountain]

Like at 100K evasion ghost dance gives you 3000 back

[gritty garnet]

don't you pick up the conflux node so all your damage does all ele ailments

[spice pecan]

tru

[restive nova]

if i buy this and my skill costs 9 mana then i can spam unlimited without any mana ?

[oak blade]

yes

[hexed mountain]

Yes

[restive nova]

thank you

[gritty garnet]

unless it isn't socketed in the chest

[split maple]

Do note supports raise cost of your skill

[restive nova]

yes i will use in socket

[tidal spear]

Hmmm im confused what you mean. The pulses originated from your character no? Even if you have a character proccing hot all the time the pulses are melee

[restive nova]

i really hate this cant regen mana

[tranquil sedge]

that only stops regen, btw
it doesn't stop leech, instant leech, gain mana on hit, and mana flasks

an enduring prefix mana flask can be a useful swap for maps like this

[restive nova]

for leech also i need to hit once

melee char

[tranquil sedge]

well sure but the expectation is you do have mana to hit at least once

[hexed mountain]

I'll need to pob if just grabbing evasion clusters isnt better than damage

[oak blade]

we will have genesis tree right

[tranquil sedge]

yes

[oak blade]

making big eva gear should be pretty easy

[tranquil sedge]

anyway a flask swap like this for that 1 map can help

[tranquil sedge]

making big eva gear is always easy lol

-# but tree makes it a little easier, sure.

[granite bloom]

hit once and enemy block/eva... Time to open portal

[gritty garnet]

yeah just very low resale value

[oak blade]

tree makes it free

[tranquil sedge]

^ the tree just ensures your gear is worth less

[split maple]

Lil easier being in campaign with 6l

[tranquil sedge]

yea thats not a good thing

but it is what it is

tree will be there

[oak blade]

yeah

[restive nova]

i almost face this in every 2-3 maps, 2 mana cost for my skill but still sad

[golden moat]

aristocrat looks p nice tbh

[tranquil sedge]

what are you running

like, mapping strategy

that ur getting that so often?

[simple stag]

I don’t get what you’re asking here. Hot will inflict ailments from elemental conflux and provide stacks of otherworldly pressure. U asked for something with high hit rate

[oak blade]

were there any decent league starters for aristocrat

all i saw was the tshot miner

[restive nova]

t16 random mods, just alc and vaal run

[tranquil sedge]

okay well theres a few options

[spice pecan]

i just realized another thing

[tranquil sedge]

• chisel alch and vaal a whole tab of maps first and then filter out no regen, lol

[spice pecan]

reduced accuracy is in the brick pool

[tranquil sedge]

• buy 8mod corrupted t16 maps in bulk using a regex to filter out no regen or whatever other undesirable mods

depending on ur level of investment either one can be an option

[oak blade]

they legit removed almost all shti mods xd

alch and go gonna feel sooooo nice

[golden moat]

bog shaman is looking VERY strong tbh

[spice pecan]

reduced accuracy is a brick mod but cdr isn't

[restive nova]

there is still time for that i guess, i am still using gears from my campaign

[oak blade]

coc is for losers anyways

[restive nova]

got 1 div during campaign and bought a weapon and still using that

[spice pecan]

real

[tranquil sedge]

campaign gear in t16?

[oak blade]

bog shaman buffs look quite appetizing

almsot tempted

[restive nova]

remaining i got from genesis tree

[oak blade]

but whisper kboc is calling me

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[oak blade]

its stronger than last phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

ye i just mean u can choose to not run no-regen if udont want to

[spice pecan]

me being the one guy on earth who got destroyed by bog shaman buffs:

[tranquil sedge]

in ur case its very much a self-inflicted issue xd

[lucid gale]

My interpretation of that list is that it's the exclusion list for the random area mods, not necessarily what mods can roll on maps in general.

[oak blade]

oh

gg we lost

[restive nova]

yea i think its not really worth to get that -15, pob shows other better gears and much cheaper

[tranquil sedge]

In this version of Legacy of Phrecia, every area will have a random number of map modifiers. Below you can see all of the modifiers that were excluded from the pool of modifiers.

[hexed mountain]

Hmmge... Starkonja with petrified blood 150% evasion surely is a lot more thzn 50% reduced damage on oshabi

[oak blade]

OH i forgot that was there

[tranquil sedge]

its free risk scarabs for everyone basically

[oak blade]

i skimmed over that

[tranquil sedge]

or pseudo-risk whatever idk

[gritty garnet]

imagine if you could also run valdos without specific map mods

[tranquil sedge]

i do that 😄
-# ||by not running the valdos||

[barren river]

the patch notes are really sketchy

[oak blade]

wdym

[gritty garnet]

you mean mspainty

[barren river]

they were buffed

[tranquil sedge]

[barren river]

whisp got a giga buff

[golden moat]

top 3 ascends imo:

1. Whisperer
2. Bog Shaman
3. Servant of Arakali

[barren river]

indigon go brrrr

[tranquil sedge]

dont say that in a negative way

reinforcement learnin

we praise these notes and hopefully the momentum carries onto to 3.28

all praise the buffs

[oak blade]

fr

buff shit skills

too many shitter skills

[barren river]

they feel strange and dubious at the very least

[golden moat]

this puppeteer build is interesting

[tranquil sedge]

just enjoy it 😄

and maybe a little more hope for 3.28

[oak blade]

like im fine with nerfs but it sucks when the nerfs arent accompanied by buffs that make the shit skills not shit xd

[tranquil sedge]

tbf

3.27 patch notes were good in that one respect

there were many incremental buffs to weaker skills

if that happens for several leagues in a row it'll add up

[oak blade]

i cant even remember the patch notes other than wand buffs

[tranquil sedge]

im not saying those were enough to make u wanna play them immediately

but its a good sign

[oak blade]

i quit like day 4 of the league maybe

[barren river]

I will not play phrecia due to real life

[split maple]

balance wise 3.27 meta is super comfy

[oak blade]

hate new breach

[grizzled lily]

guys flip indigons

[split maple]

but i worry how much of that is due to game being easier now

[oak blade]

foulborns are sick though

[tranquil sedge]

and also ppl experimenting w/ foulborns

[stray sedge]

yep, I feel lucky that I was there on the first day when it was raining uniques in the hive encounter

[grizzled lily]

livesearch indigons all week

[golden moat]

pray for more slam nerfs in 3.28 everybody.

[stray sedge]

they shadownerfed that so fast lol

[oak blade]

foulborns brought a lot of power to shit skills

and life stack and other similar mid archetypes got buffed

[tranquil sedge]

but also

[lucid gale]

Shooting for 3.28 at least?

[oak blade]

going red life instead of blue life actually had a purpose this patch'

[tranquil sedge]

its not like making endgame harder is going to make these skills any worse

like at the very least u can still progress to t17s lol with basically anything if u want it to

[barren river]

ofc

[opal ingot]

@tranquil sedge translate for me

is the 100% from 50% bad

[oak blade]

whats there to translate

[barren river]

it's good

[oak blade]

not a big deal likely

[tranquil sedge]

buff
buff
buff u wont care about
other change u wont care about

[thick goblet]

meanwhile i crashed every single fortress for the first four days

[barren river]

indigon ramps up

[opal ingot]

nice

thanks

[tranquil sedge]

you'll have to be a bit more judicious with ur pressing of attack button once it ramps up

but ramp will be faster

[opal ingot]

i can take it

[tranquil sedge]

and dps per attack will be higher

[opal ingot]

i think

[tranquil sedge]

overall its a buff

[tranquil sedge]

ye you can lol, there are several ways to address mana cost 😄

[oak blade]

ramp was kinda annoying for kboc but only after sitting there for a while

but kboc didnt run that node

[gentle finch]

we didnt even take the % mana cost % of mana as extra lightning

last phrecia with indigon

[oak blade]

so idk how bad it can get

[gentle finch]

u wont take it now with indigon

[split maple]

vaal clarity panic button

[grizzled lily]

kboc in off hand just saying 9 of them to be exact

[tranquil sedge]

we didn't? are you sure?

[gentle finch]

yes

[golden moat]

major buff to Harbinger tho , debuff expire 100% faster. we can rock beacon of madness really easy, and take the delirium bloodline mania effect, basically double damage and mega slow bosses, likely best for poison impending doom.

[oak blade]

did mfa not take it?

[gentle finch]

rage node for perma berserk, woke fork, charges, dexmana node

[grizzled lily]

ill do merclab until my body doesnt let me

for those hens

[split maple]

you can this league for kboc, last phrecia didnt have reftaction runegraft so you had to take fork. now you can take flat there

[gentle finch]

idk about mfa

[tidal spear]

But herald of thunder needs something to shock? Or are you saying hive and HoT will loop?

[gentle finch]

but kboc didnt

[tranquil sedge]

mfa did

maybe he meant kboc

but rly, kboc didnt take it??

[grizzled lily]

no way they buffed an alr stupid op ascendency

[oak blade]

yeah he did

[gentle finch]

i mean i still dont think u take it with kboc @split maple you just grab a bloodline instead

[split maple]

you needed fork due to no runegraft

[tranquil sedge]

wat was wrong with woke fork gem

or even a normal fork gem

[split maple]

it takes a gem slot

[tranquil sedge]

oh okay

[golden moat]

this poor soul

[oak blade]

it wasnt that much extra dmg for kboc

but it might be worth now

[split maple]

so 30% more dps if you dont need to use fork

[tranquil sedge]

i feel for him

[split maple]

and can get it from ascend or graft

[oak blade]

i never looked into that graft

[tranquil sedge]

i see

[split maple]

but like rly just take flat now for kboc

[oak blade]

did it actually work for kboc as people thought it would

where it didn t make it 1 explode

[split maple]

yea its broken good

[gentle finch]

pretty sure u also need the runegraft to actually get double damage from +1 tornado graft anyway

[oak blade]

holy w

i didnt play enough of the league to see it xd

[split maple]

kboc whispy looks hella comfy tbh, with squaling graft and runegraft and a buncha manastacking foulborn toys

i just dont want to play it since it feels to me like worse hiero which i got currently

so mfa 😄

[grizzled lily]

good thing that the modpool is

[oak blade]

wait was there a tornado graft?

[grizzled lily]

that good also

[gentle finch]

the graft gives +1 nado to the grafts skill but it effects spellslinger tornado too

its def not intended but never got changed

[simple stag]

No you’re right you will need something to trigger it at the start i forget what probably shock nova or something

[oak blade]

thats crazy

[split maple]

is graft that you can activate to summon +1 tornado, that can have mod that gives +1 more and is bugged to work on your tornado too for 4 tornadosd

you insta ubers basically

on clear skill 😄

[oak blade]

yeah theres no way im not play whisperer kboc unless theres some insane cool build video that comes up

[tidal spear]

hmkay, do you tihnk youd be better off using a tri ele thing to also ignite and chill or best to focus on just one type?

[oak blade]

surely fubgun will make a video on blind prophet again

prayge

no whisperer videos please

[tranquil sedge]

what did he play last time on prophet

[oak blade]

LS

[tranquil sedge]

connor will take care of whisperer lole

and palsteron

[oak blade]

yep

[tranquil sedge]

and maybe a few others

[frank sable]

Hard to call it a buff when they moved the node locations, you have to take the channeling harbinger summon now if you want expiry rate , which is useless on most builds

[grizzled lily]

if fubgun says hes going kboc dex stacking mana stacking indigon farming

[oak blade]

ill just kms

[coarse trench]

idk blind prophet only being 9 now is real sketch. Like the gain is painfully lower for most weapons now. Remembering that's it's not just "9" base crit, the gain is only 9%-the base crit of a weapon, which is typically 5-6.

[grizzled lily]

the community will hunt for him

ingame

ofc

[oak blade]

he already played a wander this league surely hes bored of it :clueless:

[grizzled lily]

just make a build capable of doing ubers day 2 or smth

duuh

[spice pecan]

that's still anywhere from 33% to 47% more crit, and it scales much more efficiently

[coarse trench]

Right, but it's the opportunity cost of that over another ascendancy (plus whatever route you take to fix being blind)

[spice pecan]

yeah

[opal ingot]

im going to cry

[simple stag]

Up to you I guess I haven’t really been thinking about unity autobomber yet was hoping someone else would cook it

[spice pecan]

also

they didn't bugfix the surfcaster crit node?

[oak blade]

what was the bug?

[spice pecan]

the bug is that it's like "10000% increased crit chance", not "all hits crit" like it says on the node

so if you played hot autobomber on it, you had to have some other way of giving hot a base crit chance

[oak blade]

oh yeah you needed base crit for herald

i remember

[gentle finch]

u just had to get any source of base crit and it was capped but ya no changes to that

[opal ingot]

wth hahaha

why

[spice pecan]

either bugfix it or change the wording tbh

[oak blade]

was running fishing rod even worth it though

[spice pecan]

i mean it was a meme autobomber

[oak blade]

im also tempted to run spark surfcaster

but idk

spark kinda shit

[spice pecan]

spark is a skill that is very dangerous to buff

[oak blade]

needs a lot of investment to feel good rn

[spice pecan]

but at the moment spark seems to be decent

[coarse trench]

I wonder how many folks will get baited by puppeteer zombies again not realizing the detonate dead thing still isn't fixed on it

[spice pecan]

this is a bug im not aware of

share with the class please

[oak blade]

lowkey i wish they made it have higher base proj speed but have a smaller multiplier to proj speed increases just cuz it feels so shit to use early game LMAO

[coarse trench]

It's not a "bug" persay. One of the nodes for the zombies says "your zombies count as corpses". And it is a miserable line to put on an ascendancy. It is worse than behemoths "can't use spells" from original.

Every source of detonate dead in the game can now target your zombies, strongboxes, monsters, bosses, that rare monster affix

[simple stag]

Basically u gon die

[coarse trench]

and your zombies have a gadrillion health on that style of build, so they just turn into oneshot machines for you instead of the enemies

[spice pecan]

LMAO

is raise zombie of falling like at least playable on that

[oak blade]

raise zombie of falling is so fucking stupid LMAO

[potent bramble]

What about combining it with Catarina bloodline to stop your minions from dying immediately? Or would that not work, do you think

[oak blade]

i hate it

[spice pecan]

it's very funny

and still somewhat useful in a cwc trigger engine

[simple stag]

I did it once it was an experience i will never forget and also never replicate

[spice pecan]

like the only thing making cwc not 100% dead

[spice pecan]

random archnemesis mob in the map: "im ending this person's entire career"

[simple stag]

And it wasnt even strong idk if dual montregul will fix that ?

[onyx adder]

Raise zombies can absolutely be DDed mid air fyi

U can even trigger MI although this is much harder

[spice pecan]

they fucking what

now that is actually terrifying

LMAO

[stoic horizon]

ayyy they dropped patch notes after i went to sleep

cool

[devout widget]

Why do they hate melee.... behemoth cant use auras....

and they nerfed blind prophet

[spice pecan]

you can at least warcry now

[onyx adder]

What were u expecting lul

[lucid gale]

Bameth would like to know your location.

[rancid peak]

Time to try out Highguard 🤣

[onyx adder]

We would like to know bameth's location

[lucid gale]

Beyond?

[onyx adder]

Maybe in 2020 old man

[devout widget]

what does 'your warcries are disabled mean'?

[oak blade]

you cant warcry

[lucid gale]

Chilling on a beach. sipping on margaritas.

[onyx adder]

These days he's in the great recycle bin in the sky, next to the pale court

[spice pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkKtpvD5LU "beyond? i login, LOGIN!"

[stoic horizon]

not all mana reservation skills are auras

[spice pecan]

oh nvm it actually specifically disables warcries too looool

tbh, its valid

slams are fucking boring

[lucid gale]

[stoic horizon]

commander got bonked hard holy

[devout widget]

they HATE melee, POE 2 is peak example

[spice pecan]

ancestral commander is still very immortal

[onyx adder]

Commander still fine

I might play it

[golden moat]

AC is worse than Jugg now

[devout widget]

i was going either blind prophet or Ancestral Commander, bot got bonked

[golden moat]

aint no way id ever play it now

[spice pecan]

how is ac worse than jugg

[stoic horizon]

strike nodes being swapped hurts

[spice pecan]

when it still has built in defiance of destiny

[tranquil sedge]

also there is no jugg in phrecia so if u were insistent on playing slams

[onyx adder]

I dont think ppl are even gonna notice the nerf to the defiance node

[tranquil sedge]

ancom is still viable

[spice pecan]

the cry cdr nerf just means you actually want to take deep breaths now

[tranquil sedge]

rip to ppl planning gen cry

[spice pecan]

it'll still be good

but yeah gen cry got a very reasonable and well deserved nerf in this case

[onyx adder]

I mean cry builds have uul netols now

[spice pecan]

there's that too

[onyx adder]

If thats what ppl wanna do with their time

[stoic horizon]

my scavenger plans untouched so thats good

[spice pecan]

im surprised they didnt do more with scav tbh

[golden moat]

strike node is 4 points, 120% increased warcry cdr, theres no end game scaling rly for the ascendancy. and have u used a 10% DoD before? it feels very meh

[neat hull]

wrong channel mb

[spice pecan]

it was 15% dod, now it's 10%, still extremely busted

[golden moat]

HAHAHAA

[spice pecan]

ac can still step on legos barefoot

[stoic horizon]

polytheist not buffed enough imo

[spice pecan]

idk what more you want xdd

[oak blade]

mfw immortal ascendancy got nerfed to still be immortal

[spice pecan]

yeah i mean like

still has everything unless you were specifically playing gen cry or earthshitter

and even for those its still fine and probably one of the builds of the league

[stoic horizon]

also they didnt do anything to ward nodes on antiquarian cool

so wardstack might be quite strong

[tranquil sedge]

dont forget +3 endu became +2

[spice pecan]

yeah, but even still

i don't think that's a huge blow

[tranquil sedge]

it definitely was one of the harder hit ascendencies

[spice pecan]

rightfully so, though

[tranquil sedge]

yea but i dont really get how the same balance team did both ancom changes and whisperer changes

[spice pecan]

dude i dont get it either lol

[lucid sandal]

What could be potentially good evasion based build?

[stoic horizon]

right

[spice pecan]

wildspeaker

[stoic horizon]

why was whisp buffed lmao

[oak blade]

shhhh

dont let them know

[golden moat]

you're a bot if you think AC is still good tbh

[spice pecan]

bruh

ac also just got woke ancestral call

[devout widget]

is gambler buffed enough? im still not seeing anything 'good'

[gritty epoch]

At least it's not behemoth

[stoic horizon]

locked behind a useless node (unless you flicker)

[stoic horizon]

gambler is also buffed by runegrafts existing

unexciting is quite good with any of the lucky/unlucky block nodes

[simple stag]

And azadi crest

[spice pecan]

delvers might still play AC with it, on like hit based mamba

not sure about that tho

[devout widget]

they kept the meme going i guess. Now i can have Elden Ring DLC radhan experience but with Poe

[rain gale]

will this event on 30th keep the player base up?(like 30 days or so)
or the event things in poe 1 die fast?

[spice pecan]

it'll have a sizeable playerbase

ppl really like phrecia for the most part

[rain gale]

yeah but for how long?

an estimate

[gritty epoch]

1 week tops imo

[spice pecan]

???

[rain gale]

i see

[tranquil sedge]

i mean it'll be a temporary spike and the event's only 3 weeks long and 3.28 is supposed to be early march

[devout widget]

its gonna die in 2 weeks

[stoic horizon]

look how it looked for keepers and substract like 1-2 days

[tranquil sedge]

nah

not the same

[spice pecan]

idol trading was fucking horseshit, and is solved now

[tranquil sedge]

phrecia is already going to be more fun than keepers just because idols exist, ironically

and the ascendency changes on top are chefs kiss

[spice pecan]

they solved the biggest problem it had back then, i would expect it to be reasonably populated the entire 3 weeks

[stoic horizon]

im comparing to the current league not to previous phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

then it should be even better

[spice pecan]

even worse comparison

[tranquil sedge]

idols are way more powerful than the shit atlas tree in keepers lol

[spice pecan]

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

keepers has barely like 55% map effect or some shit

[spice pecan]

idols are a literal dopamine printer

[uneven gust]

what do i start in pherica
1️⃣ cyclone w slam boys
2️⃣ dr bees
3️⃣ cold spaghetti
4️⃣ endomitriosis

[tranquil sedge]

idols will double that easily

[gentle finch]

200% map effect if nothing changes with idols

[tranquil sedge]

there, that

[gentle finch]

on 6 mod 20 qual maps

[tranquil sedge]

plus all the free extra mods on each zone

[oak blade]

i do wonder if theyll nerf idols

[tranquil sedge]

that aren't brick mods

pseudo-risk

[spice pecan]

i will say tho, day 1-2 mapping with the idol system is kinda scuffed

[oak blade]

yeah early map sustain is big shit

[spice pecan]

nonatlas day 1-2 is probs the play till you can scrounge together a set of 1-2mod idols

[gentle finch]

the real question is how fucked is the gold/dust cost on idol recomb

[spice pecan]

gold cost is very high

[gentle finch]

since weve never had idols after changes

[spice pecan]

at least by 3.25 numbers

[tranquil sedge]

quite high in phrecia first time

[gentle finch]

i mean it really wasnt that high

[spice pecan]

yeah, it's spendy

[gentle finch]

in og phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

yea but how many idols u have to recomb lol

if ur going for 3 or 4 mod it adds up fast

2 mods are sure not much

[spice pecan]

wasn't it like 1m dust and like 400k gold to recomb a 2x2 idol?

or some shit

[gentle finch]

gold was never an issue tho

[vagrant swan]

I look forward to dealing with the extra map mods with 99.5% attack block and super unlucky damage taken from hits

[tranquil sedge]

what

per recomb? no? tf

[gentle finch]

he prob meant total

to hit a 4 mod

[tranquil sedge]

oh
probably

[spice pecan]

yeah

sorry, should have been more clear

[tranquil sedge]

but lets be honest

gold and dust was half the equation

other half is affording idols to recomb

[cosmic eagle]

so you're telling me antiquarian is even more potent than before

[spice pecan]

yeah, but at least we can fucking trade for them now

[gentle finch]

ya async + just mass farming gold to gamble idol bases

[spice pecan]

instead of wasting 40 minutes trying to buy a shitty 2mod for recomb fodder

[stoic horizon]

olroth buffs it a lot

[cosmic eagle]

servant also got some nice buffs

[grizzled lily]

wilfstrike of extremes behemot LOGIN

with treachery

[stoic horizon]

no auras

[grizzled lily]

no need for auras

cause of treeachery

u dont wanna buff the enemies anyways

[spice pecan]

yeah but

quad purity + rakiatas + runegraft of treachery

i lost duuuude

[stoic horizon]

purities are auras too afaik

[vagrant swan]

I get 65% invert from gambler lol

[simple stag]

Wonder what the settler’s / memory idols will have

[grizzled lily]

gambler seems like a joke

[vagrant swan]

gambler got gigabuffed

[grizzled lily]

paladin looked really nice

same with aristocrat

[vagrant swan]

https://pobb.in/NBB25Hs6nvbE

azadi crest OP

[grizzled lily]

its not enough

[hoary scarab]

just FF yourself lucky block

smh

[vagrant swan]

super unlucky dmg taken + super lucky attack block

glad lucky block is worse, requires you to normal block first

[spice pecan]

dance with death OMEGAGIGACHAD

[vagrant swan]

yeah I tried every other angle

[spice pecan]

tho i wonder

[hoary scarab]

thats fine with triple unlucky dmg taken

[vagrant swan]

dance with death ended up on top

[spice pecan]

could you go non-crit here

and run voice of the storm

for triple lucky light dmg

[vagrant swan]

I tried that

[spice pecan]

ah

[vagrant swan]

scaling was worse

[spice pecan]

yeah, makes sense

[elfin shale]

Would Gambler Woespike Impale be real or bait

[vagrant swan]

lucky crit chance + lucky dmg with crits + Marylene's is wacky

[spice pecan]

i fucking love dance with death builds, they're so sick

especially with azadi

[barren river]

no helmet is really rough

[grizzled lily]

ehp isnt it

either

[spice pecan]

the only thing i would miss from helm is eldritch implicits and rmr mod

[grizzled lily]

what idol do you do with it

[vagrant swan]

ehp doesn't account for the double unlucky dmg

[barren river]

you miss 4 gem sockets

[spice pecan]

i would honestly take no helm over no flasks

[marsh sand]

Because it's GGG's tradition to have atleast 1 totally dogshit class in the roaster

We have Assassin for standard poe1 classes.

Acolyte for Poe2.

Then Polytheist is the chosen dogshit class for phrecia ascendancies

[vagrant swan]

idk what I'd do with 4 more gem sockets here

[grizzled lily]

max hit is bad tho

[vagrant swan]

couldn't work out anything useful

[spice pecan]

i might legit steal your pob

[grizzled lily]

lvl 40 discipline btw

[tight plinth]

apparently i cant read

[spice pecan]

this is getting saved at least

[vagrant swan]

I've done t17s comfortably with worse in ruthless so

[grizzled lily]

did u do th boss

[spice pecan]

im literally logged into ruthless rn

[vagrant swan]

ye

I did Ubers in ruthless this league lol

also if you want more max hit you can just run heart of flame graft I guess

[spice pecan]

how does heart of flame interact with cwdt/automation + guard skill?

[vagrant swan]

not always up but it's like double hp when it is

[spice pecan]

i assume it's somewhat bad to run guard skill with heart of flame if you have life cost on main skill

[vagrant swan]

iirc one triggers after the other

[spice pecan]

but no life cost makes it alright

[vagrant swan]

I think molten shell cd doesn't go down during heart of flame but heart of flame cd does go down during molten shell?

[spice pecan]

yeah there's some weird stuff

[barren river]

ruthless trash

[vagrant swan]

Been a while since I played with it

covered my ass while I was doing ubers for sure

[spice pecan]

i only have used heart of flame on builds where i have a life cost on mainskill

[gentle finch]

ya heart stops guard skills cd while its active but heart cd doesnt get stopped by anything and counts its cd down while active itself too

[barren river]

ruthless is awful

[vagrant swan]

then don't play it

[barren river]

i need to complain

poe survives on complaints

[spice pecan]

poe almost died on rabid complaints

[gentle finch]

its funny looking at the antiquarian ward stacking ps miners its still a lot of damage even after the PS nerf in 3.26

[spice pecan]

in expedition and kalandra

xdd

[vagrant swan]

fwiw I threw that PoB together from scratch in like 4 hours

I'm sure there are some ways to improve it

would like to get more chaos res really

[crisp obsidian]

Are we calling justified complaints rabid now smh

[spice pecan]

no, many were justified, but many were fucking heinous

and it caused a lot of heinous shit to get thrown around

[vagrant swan]

I liked the period where 80% of mainsub was rabid conspiracy theories about ruthless being the new main mode

[spice pecan]

i think a lot of that was the severe whiplash from sentinel to kalandra tbh

one of the juiciest leagues in history, to one of the least

[vagrant swan]

a bunch of it came from them doing a race in ssfhcr as well

[spice pecan]

yeah

merc to keepers was like a smaller version of sentinel to kalandra

[barren river]

it's a shame that r/pathofexile wasn't infested with cringe memes in keepers

[vagrant swan]

while that it kinda made sense to do something different given that exilecon race was coming up

but ssfhcr is obscene levels of masochism lol

someone recently hit 8/8 there for this league

pretty huge since you need to do 3 ubers

[barren river]

3 ubers? jeez

[vagrant swan]

I did do 2 of my ubers deathless but still

[restive path]

How badly does random proj direction affect cobra lash/venom gyre?

[fossil mural]

Is rampager dogshit now?

[spice pecan]

it's even funnier when you realize you only really get uber frags from doing t17s

[restive path]

Was thinking of Cobra Lash/Venom Gyre Blind Prophet for my starter

[gentle finch]

would feel horrible pretty sure

[spice pecan]

and last league had a ruthless challenge for completing 10 t17s

[vagrant swan]

uber frag grind in ruthless is the worst part of the mode tbh

[spice pecan]

that and early map sustain/bonus objectives tbh

it's rough

[vagrant swan]

10 t17s was pretty easy compared to doing all 5 t17s, OG Feared, etc.

[spice pecan]

a10 kitava provides tho

[vagrant swan]

I just rush all kirac chance nodes, never find issues with map sustain early really

[vagrant swan]

did a private league recently and was in yellows pretty fast

[spice pecan]

ye idk, i run out of binding orbs pretty early into yellow maps

so i resort to using alchs

but i've only been in atlas twice in ruthless, so maybe just unlucky or unskilled

[restive path]

oof

[simple stag]

I need a rf witch pob to practice without playing elementalist xd

[jagged raven]

i can do 50mil shipment where do i send?

[restive path]

What other skills could I use for Blind Prophet start?

[spice pecan]

uhh, RF occultist, swap to death's oath

[restive path]

cause Servant of Arakaali is good leveling

[finite quail]

closest tattoo port

[spice pecan]

like the second you get a 6 socket DO, swap

[pale rose]

is there anything here that might cause a problem, using rf

[finite quail]

anything you want bro

anything thats fun

[spice pecan]

path down left side for life and block etc

[finite quail]

you're not ignited when you're using rf

you're burning

its two separate things

ignited is an ailment, burning is not

[pale rose]

i see

[finite quail]

so unless you have a consistent way of self igniting yourself, its not gonna do much

[spice pecan]

can use the meme amulet

or fulcrum

[silent leaf]

[finite quail]

chainaaaaa

[spice pecan]

[pale rose]

okay so theres ingnite duration on enemies but its 200c which i cant afford

[spice pecan]

well in this case you only care about self-ignite

right?

[robust dew]

does "Brine Bound now has "Cannot be Frozen"" mean that its an addition with the old modifiers or that the old modifiers were replaced with the cannot be frozen?

[finite quail]

depends on how its worded

[spice pecan]

it is in addition. if they remove things, they usually state "removed x"

[finite quail]

if it says "now has", its a new mod

if it says "x has been changed with x", its been replaced

or "x has been removed and it now grants x"

[stoic horizon]

it doesnt say "instead" so its not replacing anything

[pale rose]

well the build i am following doesnt require it

[robust dew]

ah okay yeah figured just wanted to make sure, thanks yall 😄 !

[spice pecan]

im not sure where wither comes into play here, you posted a self ignite based chest armor?

[finite quail]

self ignite is never really required

[fossil mural]

The "Light Radius and Defences" passives now have "5% increased Light Radius and 10% increased Global defences" (previously 10 and 5 respectively)

Light radius getting nerfed wasnt on my bingo card

[wild vessel]

gosh darned mouse slips, oop

[pale rose]

typo mybad

[spice pecan]

self ignite is only really a thing if you're using the fulcrum

tbh

[pale rose]

i see

[stoic horizon]

they are afraid of light radius stack pyroclast mines

[spice pecan]

so i would either get a regular cloak of flame, or look into fulcrum chieftain

[finite quail]

basically cws chieftain

[spice pecan]

yeah, it's oldskool cws kinda

[silent leaf]

I'm sorry and I'm not sorry at the same time

[spice pecan]

same energy

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537669482567434240/1329320732169080852/RDT_20241107_0935208427249256834867586.gif

[tranquil sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-chilling-relax-merryjane-snoop-dog-gif-10431620193504603976

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-cat-aggressive-attack-meow-gif-12107784302537770244

[restive path]

Yeah I might just go Herald Herald of Agony Herald as the "Safer" starter than gambling on Cobra Lash or Venom Gyre not feeling bad on Blind Prophet (or having to play other skills...)

[finite quail]

herald herald herald

the triple H

[lucid sandal]

would that be melee or ranged build?

[pastel crystal]

wats deathgrip

[restive path]

gonna have some crazy damage potential

[finite quail]

wildspeaker is an ascendancy

[pastel crystal]

how do i get the grippy

[finite quail]

not a playstyle

you choose how you wanna play it

[finite quail]

grip so hard it deadly

[restive path]

Actually if I did want to play HoAG again, is this basically the time to do it?

[pastel crystal]

wildspeaker stack dex + queen of the forest + garukhans flight + fractal thoughts

[finite quail]

pretty sure thats just referring to the "nearby enemies killed by anyone count as being killed by you instead"

since gravebinds have a similar tag not visible ingame iirc

[pastel crystal]

throw in iron commander for good measure

[finite quail]

the DEATH GRIPS ascendancy

[heady cliff]

you can actually sometime die in maps with 10%

it now requires you to not afk in the screen full of monsters

[pastel crystal]

stacking dex now gives u

flat dmg from iron commander
% inc dmg from ascendancy + fractal thoughts
flat life from garukhans
movespeed from queen of the forest
evasion from innate dex scaling

[finite quail]

fake

[pastel crystal]

gonna be nutty

[finite quail]

shrimply get the defy pain ff combo

[restive path]

Oh that's an idea actually... though it sucks losing the 2 proj from the Ascendancy. Dex Stack Cobra Lash/Venom Gyre Wildspeaker

[heady cliff]

insert fortitude meme

[lucid sandal]

thanks

[pastel crystal]

if u go claw u can get +proj from clusters anyway

[restive path]

what clusters?

dex stacking on those skills would be claw

[pastel crystal]

the claw notable

forgot the name

fan of blades

1 per large or megalomaniac

u will want at least 1 large anyway for split personalities

[restive path]

oh fan of blades

plus cobra lash scales really well off medium clusters anyway

[pastel crystal]

u can stack both dex and int too

and go howa

and ci

[restive path]

Follow Through is massive damage

[restive path]

but then wouldn't antiquarian be better?

[pastel crystal]

true

[restive path]

i mean

[pastel crystal]

idk tbh im just looking at wildspeaker and daughter of oshabi for now

[restive path]

not antiquarian

aristocrat

if you are going dual stack

[thin leaf]

Now I wonder how bad is this hmm...

[pastel crystal]

40% is huge yes

[restive path]

slightly less than 1 support gem

since inc crit strikes gives you back up to 11%, and then some % increased crit chance

[pastel crystal]

u can also just stack a single stat on aristocrat and go for +20% gem quality

which will be funny with ashes giving another 30

[magic onyx]

anyone want to run maps for vaal crystals quick

[thin leaf]

I'll still play blind prophet lightning strike, looked cool.

[nova surge]

Question: "In this version of Legacy of Phrecia, every area will have a random number of map modifiers. Below you can see all of the modifiers that were excluded from the pool of modifiers."
Is this exclusion only for the random modifiers to an area, or is it also excluded from normal map rolling?

[pastel crystal]

wat

[restive path]

Also PSA: To get the 100% crit from Surfcaster fishing rods on Heralds you need AT LEAST 1% base crit from some source for the Herald. If using Maralene's Fallacy you need 2% base crit in total

This is because of how that node is coded

[pastel crystal]

random mod only

so they dont brick ur maps with reflect or no regen

u can still roll them on the maps themselves

[drowsy eagle]

how about we remove them from normal map mods pool also

[fossil mural]

10% crit on herald looks interesting ngl

[restive path]

can also get Forbidden Jewels for the Deadeye node

[fallow fern]

isnt harbinger kind of just op

[nova surge]

Okey. That is what I was thinking first, but then the last sentence made me wonder if I could just roll maps with impunity and don't bother looking 😛

[pastel crystal]

with what divines

FF jewels are gonna be so fking expensive

everyone and their moms gonna be mapping this league bro

[restive path]

phrecia is inflation league

[fossil mural]

Was it even played last time, considering surfcaster was just better crit herald

[fallow fern]

i saw alot of harbingers in town

[restive path]

hmmm... that pushes me to Herald of Agony

[fallow fern]

when i was going in campaign

[restive path]

With Herald it's a good bosser

[heady cliff]

0.01%?

[pastel crystal]

does it work with Lycia bloodline too?

[vagrant swan]

someone on reddit told me admiral arrogance gloves will be super rare because no-one will run boats

I find that hard to believe

[fallow fern]

but 55 cooldown recovery is kinda just nuts tho

[restive path]

yes, but you need to solve chaos damage

[pastel crystal]

everyone and their moms gonna be running boats cuz we all mapping

u gonna get so much gold

[vagrant swan]

exactly

[restive path]

port quotas

[pastel crystal]

but its also only a 3 week event too so

[restive path]

for those gloves

[vagrant swan]

it doesn't cost much to have all 3 running all the time

[pastel crystal]

dont expect too much

[restive path]

also Ynda's stand might be as much as a Mageblood

[heady cliff]

depends on idols

[vagrant swan]

also the only source of runegrafts and tattoos

[pastel crystal]

y

[heady cliff]

if no dust idol, might as well ignore boats completely

[heady cliff]

again depends on idols and lost shipments chance

[restive path]

port quota reward, T1 unique (rarest quota reward), requires character level 83 quotas (which can take hours worth of refining bars/farming crops to acquire)

[heady cliff]

i can perfectly imagine a phrecia 2 where 90% of your tatoos come from lost shipment idol set

[restive path]

Plus Antiquarian got massive buffs this patch

[gentle finch]

gonna be interesting to soo how high we can get the lost shipments

[restive path]

due to bloodline

[heady cliff]

tl;dr - WAIT FOR IDOL NOTES FFS

before discuissing kingsmarch

[spice pecan]

are we even confirmed to get idol notes

[gentle finch]

there isnt gonna be any idol notes most likely

[heady cliff]

no

[spice pecan]

or are we relying on poedb

[heady cliff]

thats the best part

[fossil mural]

On ninja 2% for herald

[gentle finch]

you can make some good assumptions

based on numbers we have

for other mechanics notables

[split pagoda]

actual bigger ac nerf than I expected

[restive path]

A GGG staff member in another discord I'm in said they are still working on Idols

[spice pecan]

still immortal

[restive path]

they aren't finished

which is why they weren't in these notes

[spice pecan]

[heady cliff]

10% can be killed during mapping

15% usually not

[spice pecan]

you still have to try quite hard to die

[restive path]

They did confirm the "Areas cannot contain breaches" unique idol will not drop in Keepers of the Phrecia Ascendancies league