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proud gorge
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ah, here we go, 3.3

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but that's before I started playing so it's always been there for me lmao

barren river
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NVM I thought that it was EHOTS

proud gorge
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they did make it more significant over time though, what with making quality give +5% to that stat

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in 3.23

haughty ermine
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it's in a really strong place right now

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making a league start guide for 3.28

proud gorge
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seems fun

barren river
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What skill? Standard Ele Hit?

proud gorge
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poor Wild Strike though

haughty ermine
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standard melee ele hit

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yeah

pulsar dune
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wild strike of extremes is probably a bit underrated tbh

barren river
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wild strike of extremes is like me: extremely depressed, extremely volatile and extremely wild

modest depot
proud gorge
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hmm, do you run Wild Strike of Extremes with Whispers of Infinity lmao?

pulsar dune
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yea, it's a whispers-only skill

modest depot
proud gorge
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since it's a skill balanced by its very strange costs

haughty ermine
open yarrow
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im getting tortured fr 💔

pulsar dune
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damn, IG idk how ele hit looks

modest depot
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they nerfed whisper skill cost when convert between life/es/mana

tranquil sedge
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that looks fun

haughty ermine
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I'm using the mtx

modest depot
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old divine blessing used to cost 500es and now its like 6k

eternal hill
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we might even get notes today

modest depot
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same with extremes

stoic horizon
haughty ermine
proud gorge
pulsar dune
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nice nice

finite quail
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patchnotes today SURELY

barren river
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In 3.28 I might start on day 5 and do wild strike of extremes

finite quail
stoic horizon
finite quail
finite quail
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cause you decided to say this before it comes out

pulsar dune
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I really need to start writing down builds I want to play

stoic horizon
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although its not arrow totems but melee this time

tranquil sedge
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clearly ggg lied to us

modest depot
proud gorge
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when you run Extremes, do you equip Purity of Elements and then the runegraft that makes your auras apply to enemies lmao?

modest depot
proud gorge
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wack

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that's not even in the undocumented changes on the wiki

barren river
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Extremes requires whispers of infinity :(

stoic horizon
barren river
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And w1, it will be like 50d

modest depot
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you also want combat for lightning only

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cuz the rest suck

pulsar dune
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oops, that's a bit doomed

proud gorge
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ah, so Purity of Lightning plus the runegraft?

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since your goal is to raise the enemy's lightning res as much as possible

modest depot
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yes just know that the res caps

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capped at their max res

proud gorge
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hmm, but you're raising the cap with Purity of Lightning aren't you?

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or wait

modest depot
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yes

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but its not as insane as yo would think

pulsar dune
modest depot
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like u dont just get +4000 res

proud gorge
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yeah

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still though, that's not bad

modest depot
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it was my back up starter if mercenaries didn't go core for duo

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extremes in duo setup is unholy damage

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and u get to player banner support and give them res that way which was also the bigghest downside of playing doryani merc last league

proud gorge
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like guarenteed -80% lightning res on every enemy isn't bad at all

modest depot
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was u couldnt do banners because it'd just fuck the mobs

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and there is an interaction where you can't use ichimonji with hand of phrecia because it bypasses the can't be affected by auras

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so you would just randomly link doryani merc and give the monsters infinite lightning res

eternal hill
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didnt elehit have quite stable base dmg, aside of lightnig

haughty ermine
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already tested that

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wasn't great

eternal hill
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Wildspeaker probably better

haughty ermine
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especially the upper left

eternal hill
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with wolves+tigers

haughty ermine
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really weird choice

strong totem
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Haha he's even got ele hit in his name. I believe gold name

proud gorge
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just attack Prismatic Burst lmao

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honestly Prismatic Burst is wack

haughty ermine
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I guess if you go the belt and a rare thrusting sword?

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otherwise what are you doing

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lol

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current pob

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just waiting for GGG to decide to publish their changes

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someday?

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this shit is so dysfunctional. it's maddening.

proud gorge
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we looked into it recently, with a level 35 Prismatic Burst (from Forbidden Shako) and around 9% cooldown recovery speed elsewhere, you can get it down to like 0.4 second cooldown lmao

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0.396 specifically

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it's not terrible damage, but max 0.4 second cooldown isn't great

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and its mechanic of choosing element based on your stats means that if you're going trinity you have to keep your attributes balanced

haughty ermine
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also you're replying to a t16 video for 3.27, not phrecia

proud gorge
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or if you're going single element then you still need Combat Focus since even with super high Int and super low Dex and Str, it still has like a 20% chance to pick Fire/Cold

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and yeah, its wording of "100% less damage of each unchosen type" really hurts its damage potential

steady elk
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i guess im running something slayer on phrecia

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melee best way to play this game fr

pulsar dune
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ah yes, slayer in phrecia

tight plinth
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apparently i do no damage until rathpith kek

proud gorge
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Prismatic Burst is just, like, a skill that they put a lot of effort into making sure it wasn't good

steady elk
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whatever you call that

past mantle
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Alt ascendancies plus slayer.

haughty ermine
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duelist.

hoary scarab
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polymath

past rain
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i have smth i want to play but rpboably giga nerfed tmr

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patch

quaint sky
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dr house i love you in that show

brazen vector
hoary scarab
proud gorge
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honestly I'm not really sure what the point of Prismatic Burst even is. It's at best an incredibly mediocre damage support for attacking builds in the first half of Act 1 and that's it

meager pagoda
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hey guys, for doing maven rotas (guardians, conq, elderslayers), do you aim to do them quick and just grab fragments? or do you try to maximize quant?

past rain
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whisper or shriner

proud gorge
pulsar dune
proud gorge
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since the only goal there is getting their fragment (100% drop chance) and the maven witness

pulsar dune
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roll invitations

meager pagoda
proud gorge
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but yeah, I guess scour even is probably better for the guardian maps

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I just like alching lmao, even though it's probably strictly suboptimal

pulsar dune
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I don't like reading mods, and I usually don't do DP on a mod-immune build

haughty ermine
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i only ever run scoured maps

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for everything

eternal hill
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if you arent hindered by the mods, why not alc and go shelder mapss

haughty ermine
split pagoda
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phrecia duelist ascendancies does make me appreciate slayer more tbh

pulsar dune
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slayer is top tier, yea

split pagoda
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its so gooood

haughty ermine
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slayer rocks

proud gorge
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I mean, it doesn't help that Duelist has some of the worst Phrecia ascendancies lmao

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Paladin is fine, and has some identity

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Aristocrat is, uh, bad

split pagoda
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paladin is cool and all but besides the first day abusing elemental relics it just doesn't hold up to slayer whatsoever for the kinda builds I'm interested in

proud gorge
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and has no identity

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and I forget what the third one is

pulsar dune
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gambler

past mantle
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Gambler.

proud gorge
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oh yeah, terrible

past mantle
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It's perfectly serviceable but literally just a one trick.

meager pagoda
pulsar dune
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I am coping they'll give gambler a third need

proud gorge
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the problem is literally all the good things about Gambler only function if your build is deliberately inconsistent

cyan elbow
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has GGG commented about when/if they were going to give patch notes?

haughty ermine
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never apparently

past mantle
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And it got hit fairly massively nerfed with the ele mastery going from 25% to 15%.

pulsar dune
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well, don't have to full on DP, can just take the witness maven chisel nodes

meager pagoda
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i will use it if im running white/scoured non-conq! thanks for the tip!

split pagoda
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Was holidays y'day so today realistically is the earliest day they were expected to come

past mantle
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Yeah.

proud gorge
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if you're just phase running to the boss anyways, DP doesn't do anything

meager pagoda
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ah got it

proud gorge
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and you should be phase running to the boss

rancid peak
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In a couple hours. Was a holiday yesterday

pulsar dune
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yea, it's 1-6 points for one boss

proud gorge
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here's another tanky build, but it's just Mjolnir Archmage BLO

rancid peak
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Im still between 2 different build depending on nerfs

proud gorge
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man, so many of these very tanky builds are just aurabots

rancid peak
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Basically 😂

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5 different defensive auras

proud gorge
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I found a full Warcry aurabot

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just a ton of Warcries, plus a ton of cooldown recovery stuff

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ah, this one yeah

pulsar dune
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not even a big phys weapon smh

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unless it's in weapon swap IG

proud gorge
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nah the weapon swap is a bow

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for levelling Empowers

rancid peak
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Actually, Im between 3 builds depending on nerfs

proud gorge
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I'm pretty sure this is an aurabot anyways

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it technically does have one skill that does damage

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or, two

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but it's Raise Spectre and Animate Guardian, with only Meat Shield and Elemental Army supports

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so I assume those are just support spectres anyways

past rain
split pagoda
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how u looking for these tanky builds

proud gorge
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which is pretty reasonable for a good tanky build

proud gorge
eternal hill
split pagoda
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yeah poeninja config can miss stuff pretty easily tho

proud gorge
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it can yeah

rancid peak
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1st: PBoD Surfcaster, Triple Heralds and Non Fishing Rod (Late Game Golems)

2nd: Spark CoC Whisperer (Ice Lance of Splitting for Clear, EoW for bosses, using Eblade)

3rd: Icicle Mines Scav (Haven't made yet, will go off poe ninja builds)

proud gorge
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but even since they made it turn off gain on block and guard skills, it's pretty decent

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plus, I'd rather have a build whose poe.ninja lists a lower phys max hit than reality than one that lists a much higher phys max hit than reality

pulsar dune
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currently I'm looking at these
generic casters (gambler/surfer/scav) - unearth, ice trap of hollowness, frostblink mines
behemoth lifestack ignite dual strike
spiders
zomber recaller
BAoV bog witch
flawed refuge divine flesh smth (probably behemoth)

rancid peak
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We'll see in 4-6 hours probably

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What build Ill be playing

proud gorge
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well, this is an interesting build I've found

strong totem
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Patch notes could be released as late as 2 days from now

proud gorge
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Shield Crush of the Chieftain Replica Dreamfeather armourstack Champion

proud gorge
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except it's an armourstack build that isn't just running a bunch of mana reservation mediums

whole bluff
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3h30min should be start of their workday

rancid peak
whole bluff
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3h36min

strong totem
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And it's a Tuesday for them

whole bluff
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And last to 11h36min

proud gorge
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this one looks interesting yeah

rancid peak
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Yeah, usually the come out around 8am-10am.

spice pecan
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looks like some flicker shit

pulsar dune
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oh yea, replica dreamfeather is really good for shield skills

proud gorge
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it's not, Shield Crush of the Chieftain

finite quail
spice pecan
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why we using fucking darkray vectors alongside fucking mageblood

finite quail
spice pecan
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are we real

finite quail
eternal hill
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Starting gear clearly

proud gorge
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it's actually using Replica Farrul's Fur for its intended purpose

tranquil sedge
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we gamin'

finite quail
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the rest is welfare warrior equipment

spice pecan
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this is NOT swag

tranquil sedge
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vectors are vectors

proud gorge
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honestly I think it might just be because it's a cheap way to get +3 corruption on a decent boot

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with +1 frenzy charge

spice pecan
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ima donkey kick my monitor if one more person justifies darkrays alongside a 100d+ item

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i swear to god

proud gorge
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though who knows

tranquil sedge
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someone do it please

proud gorge
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I honestly have no idea what Darkray Vectors gives this build, other than a bunch of evasion rating

rancid peak
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Uses darkrays cause lightrays hurts his eyesROGGERS

proud gorge
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and +1 frenzy charge

tranquil sedge
strong totem
tranquil sedge
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+1 frenzy

proud gorge
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well, a decent amount of evasion rating, anyways

spice pecan
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it is literally +1 frenzy

proud gorge
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an okay amount

spice pecan
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and nothing else

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
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interesting

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can you get +1 frenzy on boots otherwise?

wraith rock
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Patchnotes plz....waiting.gif

tranquil sedge
spice pecan
tranquil sedge
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the movespeed is also incidental, lol

proud gorge
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ah, so realistically no lmao

tranquil sedge
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its literally all just the +1 frenzy charge carrying this

spice pecan
proud gorge
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fair enough

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I mean, they're running a +1 Precursors

whole bluff
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Frenzy charges isn't just 1 max for dmg etc on farrul flicker, you can get unlucky and run out easier with fewer

spice pecan
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what if you dont play a build that gets unlucky

tranquil sedge
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wat else is on that precursor's

strong totem
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I sense a gambler hater

proud gorge
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it's not like their ring doesn't also give +1 frenzy

barren river
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Jambler

spice pecan
tranquil sedge
spice pecan
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flicker players i swear to Chris share the same 4 braincells

proud gorge
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again, not a flicker build

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it's Shield Crush

golden timber
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hey guys lets pair mageblood with darkray vectors

tranquil sedge
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can u like the build

golden timber
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should be pretty good

proud gorge
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of the Chieftain

tranquil sedge
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okay that ring is less of a settle then that actually looks nice

pulsar dune
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80% global evasion and 40% ms is decent on +1 frenzy boots

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what other stats would you even want

whole bluff
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I would have wanted a ralakesh on that build, before ralakesh was nerfed. Now idk

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No good solutions

proud gorge
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yeah it gets all the stats it wants out of that ring, percent armour per endurance charge, crit chance per endurance charge, and +1 frenzy for its Replica Badge

haughty gale
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You know I was joking when I said we'll be getting the patch notes on league launch...

proud gorge
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I don't think there's a better Precursor's for the build

tranquil sedge
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is it actually 'just' 9m dps build or is the real dps a lot higher than that pob number

pulsar dune
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I think you get overlaps with that skill

proud gorge
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that's what I was checking yeah

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technically it's at least 18m DPS since it has both hit and ignite DPS

whole bluff
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Like 2, iirc

proud gorge
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of around 9m

pulsar dune
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2 overlaps

proud gorge
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no wait that's DPS including ignite, the ignite deals like no damage

tranquil sedge
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yea

proud gorge
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I have no idea what their AG is carrying

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but presumably it also boosts DPS somewhat

tranquil sedge
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he has so little health tho jeez lol

unique kraken
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Can you explain to me in a few words how defiance of destiny works?
If you have 4k hp and get hit for 2k, do your life goes from 4k>2k> 20% of 2000 = 400 so 2400 ?

tranquil sedge
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and i dont see any ES recovery

pulsar dune
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armor stackers
low pool
name a better duo

tranquil sedge
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he has 3k es surely there should be something to recover that

pulsar dune
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so if you are at full health it does nothing

unique kraken
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Whats the point of healing before you take damage

tranquil sedge
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what happens

unique kraken
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Ohh thats nice so you are left with 400 life instead of dead?

pulsar dune
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yea

unique kraken
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Dang thats really good,ok ty !

pulsar dune
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it's better if your current health is lower, but the main usecase is as a way to avoid getting killed by many small hits

proud gorge
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oh huh yeah, you're right, that is insanely low max health

tranquil sedge
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^ defiance will not stop you getting oneshot for your full life pool if you get hit hard enough

pulsar dune
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I've also seen people use it with rathpit globe to clear maps at 1hp, but with more dots in the game idk if you can get enough recovery to not just fucking explode

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especially after it got nerfed to 24%

unique kraken
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Example shaper slam or others,ok ty, i was looking on old phrecia build and it was in the ancestral commander ascend

proud gorge
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the main point of Defiance is that it makes you basically immune to small hits

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
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so you won't die from 10,000 small hits hitting you

tranquil sedge
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like in ur example, if u have 2k current life, 4k max life, and u get hit for 2500 damage
ur still gonna die

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but that doesn't stop it being used for its main use case ^ lots of smaller hits

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the kind of things you get when mapping, for instance

unique kraken
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Thats usually what kills us in maps right? I mean even with 40k ehp i sometimes die in 0.1 to snipers mobs or shotgun attacks

pulsar dune
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yea, DoD makes you very hard to kill in maps

proud gorge
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recovery when hit or recovery on block are great for letting you survive infinite enemy hits from an insane number of enemies at once

tranquil sedge
haughty ermine
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it's probably you're not actually at max life

pulsar dune
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doesn't help against damage over time ofc

proud gorge
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which is what'll often kill you in high tier mapping

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against bosses, on the other hand, Defiance is less good against a small number of very large hits

tranquil sedge
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you can think of defiance as similar to recover on block

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its strong against lots of smaller hits

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but a big enough hit can still overpower if it gets through

proud gorge
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but if the boss has adds, often the Defiance can serve to rapidly heal you up after surviving a big hit

tranquil sedge
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thats not a very good analogy but maybe it helps with the thinking

proud gorge
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Defiance is great for quickly recovering from infrequent large hits while surrounded by weaker enemies

unique kraken
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I like harvest a lot and i usually die to those mobs in t17 ( i mean when i played earthshatter zerk) so dod could help there

tranquil sedge
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which color kills u the most kek

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is it yellow

tranquil sedge
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those are probably the most painful mobs in them tbh

proud gorge
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anyways, let's see what else interesting we've got here in the "tanky characters" list

proud gorge
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lot of Blood Sac builds, aurabots, and traditional armourstackers

tranquil sedge
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that shield crush build
is it so hard for em to generate frenzy charges or something

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wats with the farruls getup

pulsar dune
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frenzies are rough

proud gorge
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honestly, you're not wrong, they could theoretically just use Blood Rage and a Frenzy on hit on unique enemy graft

tranquil sedge
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they even have mapping frenzy sorted already

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like unless they're taking a nap mid packs that should sustain mapping charges

unique kraken
proud gorge
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but to be fair the Replica Farruls solves both Frenzy and Endurance charges for them at once

haughty ermine
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there's also the mark mastery for uniques

proud gorge
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actually, you know what it might actually be lmao

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Replica Badge of the Brotherhood causing them to lose charges on Leap Slam

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and on gaining Fortification

tranquil sedge
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o
that could be it

proud gorge
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I don't normally think about that portion, since normally it gets combined with Impatience

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but without Impatience you actually need to be able to sustain charges through the charge loss

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honestly the strangest thing to me is that the build is using Darkray Vectors for +1 frenzy charge, but can't muster up the passive points to go grab Fervour

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it has a bunch of tattoos there, like it used to path over, but along the outside for some reason

tranquil sedge
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u right he could

proud gorge
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it's actually 118

tranquil sedge
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oh bottom left cluster

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gotcha

proud gorge
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PoB deallocates his small cluster for some reason

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but yeah, could definitely find some way to justify the point expenditure for Fervour

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maybe rebalance the passive tree a bit

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pick up some mark nodes on the right side of the tree?

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maybe grab a Tincture instead of one of its two unique flasks

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one of which is Wine of the Prophet

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it just seems silly to me to not pick up Fervour when it's relatively close, but spend the boots slot entirely on +1 Frenzy Charge

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or in general to play a charge stacking build but not pick up all the max charges on tree

tranquil sedge
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and i do mean a lot

toxic pier
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Any good lazy build for this event? so i can watch movie while farm

proud gorge
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oh hey, tanky Arakaali Spider Squire build

tranquil sedge
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like just levelling up woke melee phys from level 3 to 5 (would take like 30 seconds in menagerie with 2 wild bramblebacks) would be almost 8% dps coz of the intimidate on hit, for example

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getting a 21/20 earthshatter would have been another ~4.5% dps

pulsar dune
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I've seen people get minions really tanky, yea

proud gorge
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it's nothing super special, just a regular Gravebind Arakaali's Fang build with Squire

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but it's nice to see one around at all

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in the year of our lord 2026

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The Dark Monarch really did a lot for the less common minion builds

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using Squirming Terror as well

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instead of the old Writhing Jar version

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
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like, overall it just seems like a nice clean updated version of Arakaali Spiders, which is nice to see

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25m ignite damage on Leap Slam of Groundbreaking

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and a bunch of Stone Golem of Hordes for some reason?

unique kraken
split pagoda
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oof

proud gorge
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it's running every single regular golem

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plus both transfigured stone golems

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too bad the old "golem effect per golem" ascendancy is gone

normal hedge
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all of them are good + primordial bond gives you dmg per golem

proud gorge
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I guess yeah, but I don't think they're aiming for golem damage

normal hedge
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?

proud gorge
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given that all of the golems are just 1L

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not a single one is linked to anything

normal hedge
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not sure what u're talking about

proud gorge
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the build I linked above

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Leap Slam of Groundbreaking EE Ignite Elementalist

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with Whispers of Infinity

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and a Golem Dark Monarch

split pagoda
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idk why so many people in sc just never go suppress on their slammers

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its not hard to fit in

proud gorge
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Leap Slam of Groundbreaking is certainly an interesting choice

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I'm pretty sure it's not the best slam for igniting with

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but hey, I like the skill

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it's a fun skill

unique kraken
split pagoda
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Well u said u died alot but if u dont mind its not a big deal ig

proud gorge
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oh, is it? Good to know

zinc stump
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Big aoe

proud gorge
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I guess that's a build for next time then

zinc stump
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Its quite common

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Go go poe ninja and sort ele + ee

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Its all gs or retaliate

proud gorge
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I like Leap Slam of Groundbreaking, since it's one of the only slams that just hits the entire AoE at once, instantly

normal hedge
proud gorge
zinc stump
unique kraken
normal hedge
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I don't think they're aiming for golem damage i said golem gives you damage per golem

proud gorge
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oh, does it?

normal hedge
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because of primordial bond

proud gorge
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I thought it was golem damage per golem

zinc stump
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Prim bond boosts you not golems

proud gorge
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ah, that's a lot better then

zinc stump
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Nps

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If you want golem build

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Look at uhh

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Scavenging prob

normal hedge
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i know that before the EE swap people play that skill with staffs

proud gorge
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I'm just looking through the tanky builds on poe.ninja

zinc stump
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Carrion golems are the actual minion players

split pagoda
proud gorge
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and this one stands out from the crowd of armourstackers, CWS, and aurabots

zinc stump
proud gorge
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plus Foulborn Le Heup is a fun inclusion

split pagoda
proud gorge
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base game

split pagoda
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Like considering leaguestart too or only high investment builds

proud gorge
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Phrecia poe.ninja not out yet

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unfortunately

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though I wonder if the old phrecia poe.ninja is still in the archives somewhere

split pagoda
#

You can view the original SC phrecia league on poeninja

proud gorge
#

oh, fun

zinc stump
#

What str said

modest zephyr
#

Where phrecia patch notes

proud gorge
#

but yeah I'm not planning to play phrecia, so I'm just looking at some fun builds to play on Keepers

split pagoda
#

But yeah for leaguestart tankiest build is just schizo lifebased something, probably slammer kek

proud gorge
#

oh hey I've found my first Wander on the list

steel light
#

10% increased Damage per Summoned Golem
40% increased Effect of Buffs granted by your Golems
Golems have 25% increased Maximum Life
1st 2 affects the player and/or party 👀

split pagoda
#

For high investment EE intstack is by far the tankiest build in the game

proud gorge
#

and it's manastack Indigon Heiro

#

yeah, but I've played a lot of EE builds

#

so I'm looking for other interesting options

copper vale
#

When Patchnotes for Phrecia? PauseChamp

proud gorge
#

is double Grace of the Goddess, uh, normal for Wander?

split pagoda
#

If you have currency, transcendence jugg can get VERY tanky

pulsar dune
split pagoda
#

Probably one if the more «interesting» gigatank builds

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

oh hey it's Doon!

#

double doon gaming

split pagoda
#

I dont know but you want +endu charge rings for sure

#

Wonder if I have a pob of it saved somewhere

tranquil sedge
#

that's not narrowing it down a whole lot, +1 endur tends to be cheap tbh

pulsar dune
#

How do you fix phys on trans jugg, just flat PDR?

split pagoda
#

Well yeah its all relative kek

#

Yes u stack flat pdr

pulsar dune
#

Makes sense

#

Endu HOP rings would be nice then

proud gorge
split pagoda
#

The idea behind it is that phys max is alot less important than ele max

split pagoda
#

So might aswell make ur armor apply to ele instead if u can get enough raw phys dr

proud gorge
tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

oh hey, rare Loreweave build

tranquil sedge
#

looks fun

split pagoda
#

found one from 3.25

tranquil sedge
#

most expensive item there really is just the wep lole

proud gorge
#

I assume it's because Transcendance can live with the 78%

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

since it's also getting armour to ele

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

yeah

tranquil sedge
#

-15% all max res from transcendence keystone

tranquil sedge
split pagoda
#

Nope

tranquil sedge
#

coz i saw 4 1p voices and the adorned + sublime and i was like lole

split pagoda
#

I did play sc in settlers and could afford to make it but I was too busy playing EE lol

tranquil sedge
#

wild numbers

#

musta been fun

proud gorge
#

oh hey, another Double Doon build

#

but, uh, okay this one I don't understand

tranquil sedge
#

adorned to counteract negative max res from transcendence is smart

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

like, it doesn't seem to have any damage

split pagoda
#

I was trying to fit suppression onto this thing at some point kek

tranquil sedge
#

because its RF

proud gorge
#

1.4m RF

#

for all that effort

split pagoda
#

Its doable but never ended up liking it

proud gorge
#

also it's running Adorned but only 3 magic jewels

tranquil sedge
#

am i missing something lmao

#

500 net regen?

proud gorge
#

less than 500 even

kindred silo
#

corsucating elixir

proud gorge
#

it's only got like 100 unreserved life

pulsar dune
#

This build doesn't look done NGL

proud gorge
#

Coruscating isn't doing shit

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
#

yeah I mean the Coruscating isn't providing any regen

tranquil sedge
#

their main pool is 22k es

#

but with 500 regen idk lol

tranquil sedge
kindred silo
#

oh its guardian

#

u just dont have sustain 3/4 of the time

proud gorge
#

oh lmao, 50% of life every 4 seconds

tranquil sedge
#

you mean this?

kindred silo
#

ya

tranquil sedge
#

lmao

proud gorge
#

but yeah, I have to assume this build is halfway through trying to convert into Adorned or something

#

given that it's running half rare and half magic synth jewels

crystal talon
proud gorge
#

but, uh, last changed 36 days ago

#

so maybe they gave up halfway through

modern zinc
#

I don't understand why 95%+ of righteous fire players are chieftains

#

weren't inquisitors the meta?

crystal talon
#

inquis has fallen out of the meta few years ago

modern zinc
#

YEARS???

crystal talon
#

yeer

golden timber
#

chieftain is soooo comfy

proud gorge
#

Chieftain is easy and simple, especially when low investment, since Hinekora solves damage for you

crystal talon
#

I think last time people really considered inquis was before affliction

#

affliction had major RF changes

whole bluff
#

inquisitors strongest node is prolly the one before ignore all res right?

#

and RF has no use for it

golden timber
#

i started in affliction

tranquil sedge
#

look at the changes to chieftain in 3.22

#

and in 3.23

proud gorge
#

if you really want to ramp the shit out of RF damage you have to go ES-based Scion or Heiro or Guardian or something, but most people aren't playing RF to play a super high budget ES int stacker

golden timber
#

been playing like 100 hours a league since then and last league was the first league i felt like i knew how to progress

proud gorge
#

they're playing RF to play a low budget walking simulator

tranquil sedge
#

also tasalio in 3.22

#

and ramako in 3.22

proud gorge
#

with Foulborn Ghostwrithe, naturally

tranquil sedge
#

-# and 3.22 was years ago kek

pulsar dune
#

Oh nice, someone actually put that build together

proud gorge
#

notably, finally a lifestack build that's not Dissolution

crystal talon
#

cursed aaah build

proud gorge
#

lemme turn on Eblade in PoB to see what its damage is actually like

crystal talon
#

equivlent to like 12k es build. is okay I guess

proud gorge
#

actually how the heck do you enable EBlade in PoB

#

do I just have to make a custom white weapon with the appropriate lightning damage

crystal talon
#

if skill gem is active in pob

#

it is on

#

so poe.ninja number should be about right

proud gorge
#

ah, so I guess they changed it, since used to be it just replaced your weapon with an eblade weapon

crystal talon
#

no tincture is kinda troll

kindred silo
#

u cant really run tincture

#

and its only really for as

proud gorge
#

I guess it's a 7m Reave build, though I guess it's mostly built for clear given the Oriath's End

crystal talon
#

oh wait no slayer overleech

kindred silo
#

cuz u need bloodsoaked

brazen vector
#

Any build utilising the light radius stacking stuff for phrecia?

kindred silo
#

oh wait

proud gorge
#

yeah I'm just trying to figure out what to set the config to on this build to get it to show more damage

proud gorge
#

that the build actually has lmao

kindred silo
brazen vector
proud gorge
#

I guess it's just using Headhunter for damage smh

proud gorge
#

that one does seem to deal more damage yeah

devout widget
#

can someone tell me how to get legacy of phrecia ascendancies in pob?

#

is there a config or something?

candid yew
#

Does anyone know how runegraft of time interacts with vixens for impending doom?

whole bluff
simple stag
#

change to 3.25 alternate tree or 3.26 alternate

proud gorge
proud gorge
#

oh wait sword mastery

#

yeah I missed that

crystal talon
#

also shock

pulsar dune
#

Just replace the line on indigon with elemental damage with spell skills or smth

proud gorge
#

20m isn't terrible

#

like, it's not great, but it's not bad

kindred silo
#

also not sure how that guy is sustaining any es on single target

proud gorge
#

it's Immortal Ambition

#

it gets ES from life leech

kindred silo
#

oh

whole bluff
#

like ketchup, no ketchup, all the ketchup

#

maybe it's cool idk

worldly bridge
#

Day two hundred without patch notes, I’ve resorted to placing my changes on a wheel and spinning it. Typing them in to POB to see if it bricks my builds

proud gorge
#

but yeah, seems not bad, 24m DPS with full rage up, very large amounts of instant life leech, and 33m max hit

eager lion
#

Wait y'all reckon we'll get patch notes for Phrecia?

whole bluff
#

maybe they could cap the mana cost increase on indigon? but 2000% inc dmg might be too high for that too be balanced, and some people prolly already wanna get a pitchfork cuz I think it's clunky

proud gorge
#

and, like, it's Headhunter, so presumably the build gets stronger when it's killing a bunch of rares

#

it's probably not a bosser though

#

also relies pretty heavily on the double Synaptic bloodline node

crystal talon
#

I mean kinda.

#

You can just pick up lightning pen or res invert instead

whole bluff
#

losing hope

crystal talon
#

They literally said we are getting patch notes

whole bluff
#

neat

proud gorge
#

anyways, let's see what else we've got

ancient yoke
#

patchnotes when ?
#releasethefiles

whole bluff
#

patch notes or no semlor for Lily

proud gorge
crystal talon
#

Based build is horker

#

Nothing else matters

#

GigaChad📣

grave vine
#

Path Notes out on Twitter alert

whole bluff
#

made me think about looking

grave vine
proud gorge
#

you know a build is strong when its running Soul Ascension lmao

#

truly the War of Attrition of items

crystal talon
#

WKZ play horker or cringe

proud gorge
#

what the heck is horker

crystal talon
#

Deathrattle Ancestral commander

#

Warcry pop corpses

proud gorge
#

ah, interesting

stoic horizon
pulsar dune
#

I trust other people in chat to do that build justice tbh

proud gorge
#

isn't there a warcry build that deals damage when it warcries?

#

or is that PoE2

stoic horizon
#

so i know its too early for that

crystal talon
#

Corrupting cry I guess

proud gorge
#

but I'm not planning to play Phrecia tbh

pulsar dune
#

There are a couple setups that have a warcry as a main skill

proud gorge
#

maybe one build to 90

#

for the boxes

split pagoda
#

by dan

whole bluff
#

but it's just ez in sweden during winter, cuz theyre halfway ahead of us

split pagoda
#

doesnt have mageblood but still reaches pretty great maxhits with big slayer sleech

hard cliff
#

looks like patch notes shadow dropped

#

what's the shake out guys?

whole bluff
#

anyway, stuff something something phrecia

tranquil sedge
#

its just a 'simple' shield but ffs aids craft

proud gorge
#

looks strong yeah, and the rare 2h Zenith build

#

but tbh I'm a bit Zenith'd out

whole bluff
split pagoda
#

it can probably be altered to play smite instead

proud gorge
#

Zenith is very much a build that's only tolerable in small doses imo

hexed mountain
#

molten strike is a hard skip for me

split pagoda
#

without much changes at all

proud gorge
#

but yeah I'm probably going to build that Elemental Hit build

#

it seems fun

civic charm
#

Will the phrecia league also have the genesis tree?

split pagoda
#

yep

proud gorge
#

yeah

whole bluff
#

yup

hexed mountain
#

free 6L leaguestart

proud gorge
#

oh hey, it's one of the rare Lifestack Grey Wind builds

whole bluff
#

I might make my golementalist lifestack instead of EE

proud gorge
#

oh, it's Dissolution, never mind

whole bluff
#

I need to figure out numbers

hexed mountain
#

lowkey greywing BP to bump it to 12 crit and get nimis marauderthinking

#

grey *wind

#

an abyss jewel stacking for life

whole bluff
#

EE is nice, but very melee

proud gorge
#

Dissolution, Adorned, Emnity's Embrace Cyclone of Tumult, with Rathpit, Crown of Is, and Untouched Soul

#

for an amazing... *checks poe.ninja* 12m listed DPS

#

honestly it's probably higher, but man, I'm saddened that all the highest lifestack builds have to go Dissolution

#

it's such a suckass item

pulsar dune
#

Grey wind I assume?

proud gorge
#

yeah

#

and it's Emnity's Embrace as well

#

so whenever it starts Cycloning it just has to hold it for the entire map

pulsar dune
#

That's rough

eternal hill
#

You cant exactly beat a more life modifier

proud gorge
#

yeah, it just produces such a terrible play pattern

#

where even your lifestackiest lifestack build ends up feeling like paper

eternal hill
#

Burning ground 🙂

gritty garnet
#

I used that for rf before getting a nebulis lol

split maple
hoary abyss
#

Patch note when

eternal hill
#

ask bex

proud gorge
#

alright I'm gonna filter out Blood Sacrament at this point

stoic horizon
proud gorge
#

unfortunately I can't think of a good way to filter out traditional Armourstacker and Aurabot without also hitting other legitimate builds

#

like non-traditional armourstacker

#

like that shield crush build

hoary abyss
kindred silo
merry vapor
#

patchnotes when vaalkek

kindred silo
#

i would 100% recommend that skill

stoic horizon
#

4 days maximum

hexed mountain
merry vapor
#

lets be optimistic then

stoic horizon
hexed mountain
#

its ok , patch notes tonight or tomorrow , surely they dont make us wait litteraly the night before

split maple
#

Hours before

hexed mountain
#

S U R E L Y

stoic horizon
proud gorge
#

oh hey someone built The Build

split maple
#

Surely not minutes

proud gorge
lean urchin
#

"we wont release patch notes, gl. find them ingame"

hexed mountain
#

inb4 no patch notes , discover the changes yourself

proud gorge
#

oh wait, that's super high budget The Build actually, double influenced Soultaker

#

wild

hexed mountain
#

the dude who starts ancestral commande and sees they removed all the good nodes on the labyrinth altar : rageSkill

spice pecan
#

hol up

#

can you freeze without hitting

hexed mountain
#

technically yes

hard cliff
eternal hill
split maple
hexed mountain
#

there are several sources that freeze mobs who hit you

hard cliff
split maple
#

So he didn't need to do half a mil chances

stoic horizon
eternal hill
stoic horizon
hard cliff
#

it's on the forum announcement

hexed mountain
proud gorge
#

Hunter Warped Timepiece as well lmao

lean urchin
#

2025 u say? hmm

proud gorge
#

and all that for, uh, 10% of elemental damage taken as chaos damage

hard cliff
plush gulch
#

what attack do you like to pair with a perma rage vortex ?

spice pecan
hard cliff
spice pecan
#

which afaik cannot freeze since it does not hit

strong totem
proud gorge
#

oh wait that's required, it's running Veil of the Night

hexed mountain
whole bluff
#

here's my giga sloppy work in progress elementalist ignite btw https://maxroll.gg/poe/pob/wk38y0lp

hexed mountain
#

2025 post

split maple
#

I don't want to farm essences pira

#

Give me 5min of freedom

#

Pls

eternal hill
hard cliff
proud gorge
#

Divine Flesh, Flawed Refuge, and 4 Hunter items for 100% of elemental damage taken as phys/chaos

hard cliff
#

are you sponsored now

strong totem
#

Jan 29 is indeed a Thursday

eternal hill
stoic horizon
hexed mountain
#

i dont see anything updated

spice pecan
#

how about instead of 5min of freedom

proud gorge
#

leaving it with, uh, suckass elemental max hit, and suckass res against elemental DoT

spice pecan
#

you give me 5mil dollars

#

instead

proud gorge
#

but on the other hand it doesn't take elemental damage

spice pecan
whole bluff
split maple
proud gorge
#

oh man, it's also running Foulborn Headhunter instead of Soul Ascension

eternal hill
#

free'ed of this torment and touched grass

proud gorge
#

truly The Build has innovated

#

why run Soul Ascension when you could instead run Foulborn Headhunter and The Celestial Brace

#

wasn't the entire point of The Build that it was a super cheap build that could tank Ubers? What's the point of doing that but also building it in a way that requires double influenced Soul Taker smh

whole bluff
#

maybe I should post my thing in build help cuz I'm lazy

lean urchin
#

i dont wanna build builds either

#

poe is my no-brain game

proud gorge
#

Where The Build was super cheap, deals no damage, but tanks Ubers, now we've got updated The Build, which is expensive, tanks ubers, but still deals no damage

split maple
#

since you can get 100% phys as ele

proud gorge
#

I'm not sure if the Foulborn Moonbender's Wing is genius or insane lmao

empty bronze
proud gorge
#

oh hey and it's running the +1 Endurance Charge Sublime Vision

#

that I said was probably theoretically good and cheap

spice pecan
#

sublime for something not ele convert??

empty bronze
#

wiki blind prophet image vs blindprophet_updated

spice pecan
empty bronze
spice pecan
#

literally the same picture

#

you just wasted a minute of my life

#

i demand immediate compensation in the form of 47 skill mtx of my choosing

proud gorge
#

running double Foulborn Le Heup

#

for the big global defenses

#

subpar max res though

#

and it's, uh, rarity stacking?

#

but without a gold flask

#

very strange build

pulsar dune
#

EE Evis can get good power and MF, but sacrificing flasks seems a bit bad

proud gorge
#

oh wait it's double annoited starkonja's

#

now that's a tech

#

is Starkonjas really worth it though lmao

#

the build also has FRoSS for some reason

strong totem
#

Enduncharge gen

proud gorge
#

CWDT FRoSS culling strike

strong totem
#

Ow

proud gorge
#

oh yeah, it causes you to take damage I guess

modern zinc
#

there's no way to leech from RF's damage, right?

proud gorge
#

except the build has like 86 ES

#

so the FRoSS damage is minimal

strong totem
#

Fross is because no mana cost

split maple
#

But Evi ele is rly good iir build

fallen gust
#

any news on the phrecia patch?

split maple
#

You can fit in 200% without lossing flasks and still dot cap

spice pecan
proud gorge
#

oh wait you mean to enemies

#

yeah then just 1

#

you can only leech from hits, not DoTs

strong totem
#

Recoup is technically leeching off enemies hitting you

proud gorge
#

and RF has no hit component

strong totem
#

Leech should be a dot

proud gorge
#

it's a HoT

strong totem
#

Dothot

brazen vector
#

Just slap in a cws skill and you can leech off a hit

proud gorge
#

we just don't typically talk about or interact with HoTs as a concept in PoE

modern zinc
#

they should allow Death's Oath to leech from enemies

#

make it feel like you're draining the life out of them

#

rn it's a pretty shitty skill

empty bronze
#

herald of thunder

modern zinc
#

I indeed can't really imagine why RF would leech

proud gorge
#

Heal over Time

empty bronze
#

herald of thunder

strong totem
#

Where's my furry druid rejuvenation

proud gorge
#

but yeah, I guess "Heal over Time" is just "Recovery" in PoE

fallen gust
proud gorge
#

so "increased HoT" would just be "increased Recovery"

hoary scarab
proud gorge
#

no I mean we have stuff that interacts with DoTs, like DoT Multi

empty bronze
#

they could word it as increased non instant recovery or something like that

proud gorge
#

but anything that would say "Increased Healing over Time" instead mostly says Recovery Rate or something

empty bronze
#

so life gain on hit wouldnt get increased

hoary scarab
#

but recovery also scales shit like life on hit

proud gorge
#

ah

strong totem
#

But still.. if you're leeching life, the enemy should be drained of life

proud gorge
#

then yeah, I guess we don't have Heal over Time

#

the enemy is drained of life, that's what leech is, you leech for a percentage of damage actually dealt

hoary scarab
#

maybe the real heal over time are the divs we made along the way

empty bronze
#

the real healing over time is tainted pact

crisp plinth
#

why would regen not be "heal over time"

proud gorge
#

I mean we don't have Heal over Time as a formalized concept

strong totem
#

Technically we do

pulsar dune
#

Instant recovery and non-instant recovery I guess

strong totem
#

Hots are the simplified definition

#

Leech is a hot unless instant

crisp plinth
#

we have recovery which can be instant

proud gorge
#

yeah HoT is just any non-instant recovery, so Regen is a HoT, but not all HoTs are regen. HoTs are recovery, but not all recovery is HoT

strong totem
#

I'm going to start calling my non instant flasks hots

proud gorge
#

nice

#

a big HoT life flask

#

Blood of the Karui is pretty HoT, but then it gives you a nice kick at the end

#

lmao

strong totem
#

That witch lady on the coast is hot

proud gorge
#

wait what, lmao, literally the very next build after that double Annoit Starkonja's Vigilant Strike Soul Taker Jugg build

#

and it's just another double Annoit Starkonja's Vigilant Strike Soul Taker Jugg

#

but this time with Bloodsoaked Blade

#

and Foulborn Headhunter

#

truly the sign of a great build

#

hmm

strong totem
proud gorge
#

Oh, this is a Ward Shatter build

#

I was confused, because it didn't seem to have any damage skills

#

also its weapon and shield are in the second weapon set for some reason

vagrant swan
#

if we're getting gauntlet bosses again are most people going to get stat checked by maven witnessed uber hillock immediately

proud gorge
#

I have, honestly, no clue how to assess a Ward Shatter build

vagrant swan
#

I imagine they'll change him because he will also have enrage and random map mod now

proud gorge
#

but it seems to be dealing 19 million damage per Ward Shatter

#

so that's not bad

#

and its ward recovers every 0.99s at least, so that's at least 19m DPS

vagrant swan
#

I think they should just say fuck it and give hillock memory game

proud gorge
#

probably

stoic horizon
proud gorge
#

and it has an Iron Flask with "gain 3 charges when hit by an enemy"

#

so I guess this is sort of like CWS?

#

where it deals damage off getting hit by enemies a lot?

#

I think this max hit is super inflated though, since realistically it probably doesn't have ward up for the vast majority of hits

#

but on the other hand, if bossing, it'd be up for every hit

spice pecan
proud gorge
#

uh

#

oh yeah it's Forbidden Rite

#

yeah it's hitting itself

spice pecan
#

wait nvm that doesnt work with gain charges when hit by enemy

#

but yeah, that's a classic looper strat

proud gorge
#

yeah

#

but it can break its own Ward at least

#

to trigger Ward Shatter

spice pecan
#

so it's not so much cws, it's more cwdt

split maple
#

Is it using olroth Ward on hit?

proud gorge
#

no, it has 20% faster restoration of ward per enemy hit taken recently

#

which I guess would also serve to get Ward back up super fast

spice pecan
#

man i hate that they specify "enemy hit"

#

but obv it would be broken with selfhit, eg. forbidden rite

brazen vector
spice pecan
proud gorge
#

hmm, also turns out Ward Shatter does way less damage if Ward has been broken in the last two seconds, which it has

brazen vector
proud gorge
#

how do I turn off Ward in config?

spice pecan
#

uhhhh

proud gorge
#

screw it I'll just type in 100% less Ward

spice pecan
#

custom config 1000000% less Ward i would guess

brazen vector
proud gorge
#

okay yeah that makes sense, down to 17k max hit without Ward up

#

which, to be fair, it'd be up for a lot of hits, but not nearly all of them

#

that's probably still good enough

#

since if you're about to tank Shaper Slam you can just make sure Ward is up for that

#

but yeah, seems like an interesting build

#

real Ward Shatter hours

#

oh wait Ward Shatter has a cooldown of like half a second

#

so this build has only like 20m dps

native abyss
proud gorge
#

that's not terrible, but it's not, like, insane or anything either

#

Simulacrum farmer I guess

whole bluff
#

my build currently has 3m dps xD

proud gorge
#

I guess what I mean is that the build maxes out at like 20m dps

whole bluff
#

mine does max out at dot cap, though I doubt I'll be reaching that

proud gorge
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with two Ward Shatters a second, its DPS is strictly limited by the cooldown with no way to get it to happen faster than that

hard cliff
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does ward make a noticeable sound when it breaks?

proud gorge
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but yeah, in this process of looking through tanky builds, I've definitely found some interesting ones

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lemme actually write these down for the future

whole bluff
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I wish my build was tanky or something, but it's really just that I like ignite and stacking golem buffs

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too melee though, so this is a stop gap

proud gorge
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I mean, you could play that build I posted earlier

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the golemstack ignite elementalist

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with Leap Slam of Groundbreaking

hexed mountain
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dot cap is a myth tho bla

proud gorge
whole bluff
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both true I guess

proud gorge
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this one, running a Golem Dark Monarch

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for extra golems

karmic gust
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if you arent going for megalos then dark monarch sounds so shit on elementalist

proud gorge
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yeah it seems like a bit of a meme lmao, doesn't even DoT cap

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but on the other hand, Primordial Bond

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it exists lmao

karmic gust
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that build probs gets more value by skipping monarch going rare helmet and not trolling the larges there completely

proud gorge
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honestly it could also probably DoT cap just by swapping to Evis or something, or some harder hitting slam

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but hey, Leap Slam of Groundbreaking is a fun skill

karmic gust
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yea the leap slam part is fine

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but if someone is putting 4 of these on their tree i question their reading ability

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especially on EE build

crimson hearth
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guys i was following a guide for LA deadeye but as soon as it reaches atlas it switches to ele hit of the spectrum then tornado shot

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do i follow that or find another guide LA only

karmic gust
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you can keep LA, it generally doesnt matter at all what attack you use on bows

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the last step there sounds kinda sus tho

crimson hearth
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if i keep LA i find diffrent guide right?

karmic gust
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no

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its all the same

crimson hearth
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ohh ok

karmic gust
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tri ele bow doesnt matter what attack you use

odd flicker
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is there any easy way to get high attack speed on dexterity stacker?

karmic gust
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yea as per dex mods, as per accu

crimson hearth
tranquil sedge
odd flicker
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its not really much

karmic gust
tranquil sedge
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idk its not nothing

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80% from a single mod

odd flicker
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its a unique

tranquil sedge
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also no its not

crimson hearth
odd flicker
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oh one second

tepid gorge
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Only a few more hours until patchnotes.
Source: Trust me bro

odd flicker
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i saw the same mod on a unique

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mb then yeah

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ty

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im planning on using this for phrecia

tranquil sedge
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big boy crafts with that mod involve transferring that to a proper base followed by fracturing it so u can do as you please after that

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it aint cheap but maybe theres other ways to settle

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it wont be a cheap mod in phrecia just be warned