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[spice pecan]

tbh

[brazen vector]

Yup, I know

[frigid wedge]

or just int anyways

[brazen vector]

Its good starter gear

Ofc not a -200 res dory but good enough I guess

[spice pecan]

the avatar of fire impossible escape is kinda funny tho

i id'd like 3 of those in a row last league when i was maven farming

and for some reason they were some of the lowest valued

also i dont rly think you need to path to iron reflexes here

you are not using AA

you're clicking multiple 30int nodes but you don't take utmost intellect?

????

[frigid wedge]

es tat

maybr

[spice pecan]

no one uses notable tats

[split maple]

not taking utmost even with es tats is kinda weird

[spice pecan]

nvm

you're actually right

[split maple]

like every lil bit of int helps

[spice pecan]

but yeah

it is notable tats over the 30 int nodes holy

[split maple]

how many of them is there? 3 of them is 360 flat which ig is something

[spice pecan]

also you pathed around the wrong side of the es leech wheel near ghost reaver

[split maple]

at the cost of incr int * 18% increased es

[spice pecan]

should go bottom side bc you arent using spells if you rly need that notable for leech

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

270 flat es is p big

or whatever it is

[spice pecan]

specifically this es leech wheel

should path on the bottom side

[frigid wedge]

360 flat*

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-crazy-cat-funny-cat-cat-drinking-gif-869630569022351627

[spice pecan]

unless for some reason you really need that 80% inc recovery per sec

[brazen vector]

Join the second glorp server

[spice pecan]

which is admittedly not a lot

[silent leaf]

where

[spice pecan]

where

[brazen vector]

#1269908783979823176 message

[spice pecan]

#unknown

[brazen vector]

OG one has no slots anymore xdd

[silent leaf]

[brazen vector]

[jagged raven]

when are we getting patch notes/

[spice pecan]

i cant use that emote

big colossal sad

[brazen vector]

Join glorp

[silent leaf]

glorp yourself

now

[frigid wedge]

me w no nitro to glorp

[brazen vector]

Let me ask my friend 🔮

[frigid wedge]

no voice to speak
no nitro to glorp

[spice pecan]

i am in the server, but for some reason i cant use its emotes

[silent leaf]

[spice pecan]

i have like basic nitro

not giga turbo omega nitro

[brazen vector]

Youre not

[spice pecan]

tho i can use emotes from other servers?

check again

i literally just joined

[silent leaf]

[spice pecan]

wait

wtf?

i got kicked

[brazen vector]

No glorp

[spice pecan]

?????????

[silent leaf]

see glorp

[frigid wedge]

i have no nitro

at all

[spice pecan]

????

why am i getting kicked

[frigid wedge]

bnananad

[spice pecan]

am i getting kicked cuz im in tft or something

[silent leaf]

yes

[frigid wedge]

perhaps

[silent leaf]

[spice pecan]

oooh

[brazen vector]

Nah

We have nothing like that in place

[frigid wedge]

just get banned in tft

4head

[spice pecan]

yeah sorry im not buying/selling bulk beasts/blueprints without tft

[frigid wedge]

fair

[spice pecan]

fuck that horrid gold cost

ppl dont scour they blueprints so it's like 3-6k gold a pop

mf im tryna buy 300 at a time

[normal hedge]

its the same if u're trying to buy bases

[jagged raven]

when?

[normal hedge]

scoured bases are like idk 1k gold and rare bases are 10k

[spice pecan]

that sounds like some severe poo2 shit

ngl

[brazen vector]

Before the 29th

[spice pecan]

but ye i agree

[normal hedge]

poe2 is so blessed they literally have a unique map that gives you at least 1m gold

[spice pecan]

wait am i actually getting autokicked from glorp bc of being in tft

can they even see that?

[brazen vector]

You dont even join

[spice pecan]

i literally did

three times

i posted a screenshot

[brazen vector]

You're not in the join log

Do the onboarding

[spice pecan]

why could i see channels with enough time to grab a screenshot then

[frigid wedge]

id join if i could use the emojis etc

[brazen vector]

Server give a preview

[spice pecan]

i see

yeah no join log

and the sec i click off, it's gone

[frigid wedge]

im glorping

[silent leaf]

btw do you do this

[spice pecan]

i wanna glorp

[silent leaf]

example i found on a server

[dry grove]

Patch notes when?

[silent leaf]

in 3 days

[brazen vector]

Boomers and tech smh

[spice pecan]

fucking thank you

[silent leaf]

smh

[spice pecan]

the only time i acknowledge the topbar for discord is when im streaming

and it says im in streamer mode

[frigid wedge]

u stream?

[brazen vector]

[spice pecan]

used to

[frigid wedge]

return

[brazen vector]

I used to strim too

[spice pecan]

i might return to speedrunning either FF9 or pokemon unbound again

[silent leaf]

[spice pecan]

but i only really stream when i get a speedrun fixation

[frigid wedge]

i used to stream too

[brazen vector]

Now I only stim

[frigid wedge]

but no one showed up so i got sad and stopped

[spice pecan]

i had a fair amount of viewers when i was running FF9

[frigid wedge]

first stim gif i found

[violet spear]

@moderator

[brazen vector]

Mod mail

[violet spear]

Where plz

[frigid wedge]

i averaged a whole 1 and it was nightbot

[brazen vector]

Top of the member list

[spice pecan]

i would get like, 50 average whille running FF9

[frigid wedge]

jeez

popular mf

[spice pecan]

and about 200 while in the endgame

[brazen vector]

I got 100ish when streaming guild wars 2 endgame progression stuff

[spice pecan]

speedrun communities are pretty tight knit, everyone watches everyone's streams

[frigid wedge]

you 2 are sm cooler than me

:P

[spice pecan]

and if an FF9 run gets 8 hours deep, literally everyone tunes in

[violet spear]

Done thanks you !

[spice pecan]

only to watch it die to the inevitable 12% chance or w/e at the very end

[meager pagoda]

yeah,im looking for easy to refer info on these bosses/fights so i can refer to it rather than having 100 tabs of wiki open

[frigid wedge]

i gtg

[brazen vector]

Basic guide:

• If it looks like you shouldn't stand in it, don't stand in it
• Listen to sound queues like on eater of worlds for the orb collection phase (stand in it)
• Enemy AoE generally bad, Elders ring is a donut so stand inside the middle
  Generally just try them

No big deal to fail unless youre on hc

[spice pecan]

even had another person plug me when i was in endgame on a sick run in pkmn red

😭

speedrunning communities are giga tho

[brazen vector]

Giga based or giga cringe?

[spice pecan]

giga based

aside from FF7 or mario 64 or minecraft

[tight plinth]

oh god minecraft speedrun community

[spice pecan]

sadly did not get the 2:04

looks like i lost 28sec on champ, so i got robbed

[brazen vector]

[jagged raven]

tell ur friend i said thanks

[brazen vector]

I will

[soft perch]

gold in poe1 is very annoying i hope they once again buff it

or at least make it so clicking settlers nodes on tree gives u substantially more gold

[brazen vector]

or just cut the faustus fees by 25%

[split maple]

make mappers bring gold /s

[brazen vector]

I thought there were no more income taxes, reee

[split maple]

bloody freeloaders

[ancient sorrel]

no gold / almost no gold fee is a terrible thing i dont want to see

flipping, but 10000x more

[modest depot]

anyone have the gambling cost for idols back in phrecia?

[brazen vector]

thats obiovus

[jagged raven]

is there any fun must try build for a new player like me?
i got almost 150divs

[split maple]

trying to ctrl-f reddit for that and its kinda easier to find 4days old shittakes than ol phrecia complaints

all the petitions oh woe

[soft perch]

lul

only thing that gives gold in poe1 is t17s

[normal hedge]

https://youtu.be/pY5ImUaYItA?t=36

found a video showing it

[pseudo axle]

I'm bored. Feel like designing uniques.

[normal hedge]

2x2 38k

[soft perch]

gold used to be scarcer before

[split maple]

so 1 conq per semi-juiced t17 mmm

[soft perch]

phrecia idols might be more expensive now

[split maple]

tho prolly they adjusting the prices

especially for recombi, since these got changed by default

[soft perch]

blight of invig also amazing for gold

[modest depot]

yeah that doesn't help

i need the 3x1 cost

to see if its worth justifying buying them over 2xx2

i've scoured so many fucking videos and nobody even hovers ove rthem

so sad

[soft perch]

i think gold cost was consistent with idol size

man blight idols fuckin suck

eww

[whole bluff]

Kingsmarch could cost substantially less gold. And jewellers. Otherwise I'm ok with it atm

[soft perch]

blight and t17s were the only shit that gave gold

🥀

[split maple]

wouldnt you just use for blight explicit effect idols

[whole bluff]

There should be ore in the best shipment strats so they can tune the gold upkeep down

[split maple]

like do you rly need other stuff

[normal hedge]

cant you get like 300% more monsters + explicit modifier?

thats all you need

[soft perch]

only thing that drops loot in blight is blight bosses

• u dont have reduced cost of blight towers for invig

[split maple]

folks were running magic mob juicing this leg

[upper shell]

any patch notes for the new league yet?

[split maple]

sebk made a gazilion with it

[soft perch]

yea but its worse than boss blight just easier

a lot worse

[whole bluff]

But what is the purpose of giga amounts of gold? I would expect you guys to never struggle on that unless you run kingsmarch?

[split maple]

idk this setup looks legit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xiJDgOAVBS8JkRd0nq9xp_3UrGbu1ZAk5XSEUtMxEeQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[soft perch]

i guess u can do bloodlines just fine

[split maple]

not like his build cannot into bosslane

[tight plinth]

i can smell it lads

[meager pagoda]

i can maven witness the sirius fight or the uber sirius (for the feared)

?

[soft perch]

it defo struggles with it

[tight plinth]

the smell of patchnotes in the morning

[whole bluff]

The smell of no patch notes and catfood this morning

[split maple]

this stacks with bestiary scarb of duping for 4 beasties per capture right, right? pretty please

[tight plinth]

[normal hedge]

gambling 2x2 idols is insane profit

[whole bluff]

Ah

[past rain]

https://pobb.in/zYBzLiNn9Bnb

[meager pagoda]

we discussing blight strats? any solo strats for scrubs?

[soft perch]

but ye bloodlines with more mob spawns seems good

im a bit sus of tower cost

[whole bluff]

Iirc free towers was easy in phrecia

[restive nova]

is this of any use for cyclone ?

[whole bluff]

Idk if you can't fit it in a good setup?

[soft perch]

wait yea

its on minor idol

[stoic horizon]

no, warcries are terrible on cyclone

[soft perch]

its just not listed as a blight mod

lul

[mental seal]

29th january login

[whole bluff]

Ah

[soft perch]

ok ye

[whole bluff]

I know I had like free towers quite early

[soft perch]

seems very easy

[split maple]

above spreadsheet is good for solo

[normal hedge]

ok with 4 2x2 map modifier you can stack aroun 120% more non uniques and 70+ reduced cost

[mental seal]

arcanist diviners 🔥

[odd flicker]

Any news regarding phrecia ascendancies?

[whole bluff]

Also, can prolly make do on 80%? 5 is prolly more tricky than 4 by far

[soft perch]

free towers also makes it much easier

[restive nova]

warcries are terrible but every cyclone build i see have some warcry skills

[soft perch]

its a minor idol mod

[whole bluff]

Or go for the fifth if free is worth

[soft perch]

its 5 minor idols

u 100% max it out

[stoic horizon]

if there was it would be in #poe1-news , but anyway, they have/had holiday today so news in 9h in best case scenario

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but like 4 can fit like in 4 corners between bigger idols that give giga loot

[stoic horizon]

cyclone cant even be exerted so they use them for buffs not exerts

[whole bluff]

5th kind of implies asymmetric and maybe sacrifice

[normal hedge]

dont think you use 5 at all

[soft perch]

well conqueror idols kinda suck

outside of the explicit effect stuff

only prefixes do anything

[restive nova]

okay thank you, its just pob was showing me this is the best and i was wondering what this is

[whole bluff]

But you can also use kamasan etc

[stoic horizon]

is your cyclone build actually a general's cry build that just uses cyclone in tandem?

[whole bluff]

Idr

[soft perch]

ye kamasan has the mob stuff

[restive nova]

general's cry. autoexersion and sunder

[whole bluff]

Just big thing is 4 is prolly low effort 80%, but why not go 98% and have infinite

Cheaper to craft non-perfect when not needed also

[stoic horizon]

yes then your build is not entirely a cyclone build, cyclone is only there cuz its comfy, gen cry is the main dmg part

and in that case, dmg with exerted attacks is good

[proud gorge]

welp, after trying some more offensively-oriented builds this league, to try to get out of my comfort zone of extremely tanky builds, I have come to the conclusion that getting out of my comfort zone sucks actually, and squishy high damage builds are super painful to actually play, especially when they also require you to be in melee range of enemies.

the Foulborn Kitava's Thirst Jiquani build, for example, isn't even that squishy as far as builds go, but the fact that it requires you to get into melee range of enemies to do anything (since it's Cyclone CoC) while having functionally no mitigation (like 10% block and spell block, and no dodge) makes it actually really painful to play in real endgame maps

[whole bluff]

I know I had some ghetto harby setup. Lost like 2 out of 20 harby per map, saved 80% of idol price. Typical me in poe

[restive nova]

full cyclone is better or with general's cry ? because i am lazy to tap corpse skill in boss room so i just spin and kill them

[proud gorge]

maybe it's at least partially because I'm throwing that build directly into very high tier maps to level up quickly

but still, most of the tanky builds can actually reasonably do that

[soft perch]

its just this probs for blight

[stoic horizon]

without gen cry, cyclone's dmg is quite bad

[proud gorge]

side note, the loss of Breachstones really hurt my usual plan for quickly levelling up secondary builds smh

like, what's the alternative for quickly levelling up a secondary build now? Paying for an xp carry?

just gunning T16 Harbinger maps and hoping for the best?

[soft perch]

shouldnt be too hard to get rly

u just recombinate the conquerors

[proud gorge]

it's not hard, it's just tedious

[soft perch]

and the others are literal 1 mod

can get blight chance for a bit of extra quant as well if u want

[proud gorge]

oh, nvm you're talking about the idols

[limpid prairie]

Yep T16 harbinger

[split maple]

some quant/pack size when furtone favours brave idols maybe?

[proud gorge]

it's doable yeah, but unless I'm playing a very tanky build, I usually just end up dying so much that it's hard to actually level up beyond like 76 or so, since a juiced Harbinger map is, uh, pretty tough for a random semi-squishy level 76 character to survive

[soft perch]

oh right u probs want scarabs are less common as well

[proud gorge]

especially if they're, as I said, not ultra tanky CoC

[soft perch]

that idol will probs be like 100 div lul

[proud gorge]

ah well

so the conclusion I have drawn is that my preference for ultra tanky builds is correct lmao

[limpid prairie]

Had the same experience
Specially with beyond and blue altars delayed spawns you often get jump scared and the map is gone

[soft perch]

i mean squishy builds havent been a thing for a while

poe has very much favoured well rounded setups

for quite a while

[stoic horizon]

especially since the sanctum nerfs

[soft perch]

ultra tanky doesnt have much value tbh but getting decent max hit and great avoidance is the way to go

while not sacrificing much clear/damage

[modest depot]

this is gonna be my earlyt blight setup

[proud gorge]

I mean, the Jiquani's build actually has like 8k phys max hit and way higher ele and chaos max hit even at level 76

[restive nova]

feels same without general's cry. https://pobb.in/P8bbD3A6DPhE

[proud gorge]

the problem is it just has like no avoidance

and also subpar regen

[soft perch]

8k phys max hit is terrible

[proud gorge]

its main form of regen is ES gain on hit, with a shit ton of hits

8k phys max hit is fine for level 76, and shouldn't be getting oneshot in regular T16 map gameplay

[frigid wedge]

smh just mill everything down faster than it can find u

[soft perch]

8k phys max hit with no avoidance is extra terrible

[whole bluff]

No tower cost reduction?

[proud gorge]

well yes, the no avoidance is the problem

[frigid wedge]

my build is like this

[modest depot]

i don't think its relevant at all

[frigid wedge]

its at lvl 99

[modest depot]

you are killed 5000 monsters

[frigid wedge]

:)

[soft perch]

dno on live with 40% and running blight of invig with legends u stop upgrading towers like halfway through the blight

i think its relevant

[split maple]

you wont be running legends there

[soft perch]

i know

u run bloodlines

[modest depot]

the amount of monsters is not comparable to live imo

[split maple]

and with bloodline blight i never had problems with towers rly this league

[modest depot]

its exceptionally more

[soft perch]

blight bosses give an ENORMOUS amount of salvage

and u dont get boss lane

[whole bluff]

Ngl, I don't know how people do invigo solo atm even. With the amount of mobs I would expect my PC to die when I try to make towers. In party I guess you don't need to prebuild, but it's not like that works anyway. Maybe people just run 100 times better builds than me, on 10 times better PCs

[proud gorge]

but there's plenty of builds that run 8k phys max hit, the usual phys max hit breakpoints are 6k to not get literally oneshot by every pack, 8k to not get oneshot by normal T16 mapping gameplay, 12k to not get oneshot by most enemies including most (regular) bosses, then like 20k to not get oneshot by most things in the game excluding highly telegraphed slams

[soft perch]

its not that many mobs anymore

they nerfed the amount of mobs blight gives substantially

[whole bluff]

Ah

[tranquil sedge]

wat pc do u have lol

[proud gorge]

and then at like 30k you can usually survive even most telegraphed slams

[modest depot]

i also don't think there is anything i would want to drop in my setup to fit in reduced cost 1x1s

the idols are too impactful

[proud gorge]

though I'm not sure what you need to survive Uber Shaper slam

[whole bluff]

Idr xD

[soft perch]

shrug i think kamasans are kinda useless

[modest depot]

uber shaper is like 28k

[whole bluff]

1080?

[modest depot]

its 28 or 36 can't remember which one

[tranquil sedge]

pob uber shaper slam

[modest depot]

you don't think spawn faster is better?

[proud gorge]

good to know, so yeah, around 24k

though I assume it can crit, given that it's an attack?

[modest depot]

also max roll the damage range

[tranquil sedge]

oh yea thats a 70% roll

good point

[soft perch]

u spend a lot of time looting and going from blight to blight

[tranquil sedge]

okay now its 26.6k lol

in one big chungus pure phys hit

[soft perch]

also i dont think spawn faster makes new blight offshoots come out faster

i think it only affects the rate at which mobs actually spawn

[proud gorge]

yeah, so 30k phys max hit to tank Uber Shaper slam is a pretty good breakpoint

[tranquil sedge]

and also in general max hit's a good indicator of how much recovery you need too

as with a lot of things, bigger number better

[soft perch]

id rather just get more loot per blight especially cuz materials for blight are not cheap

[tranquil sedge]

more max hit, you can prob get by on a little less recovery
as long as u meet the minimum

[proud gorge]

apparently Uber Shaper slam can't crit?

[tranquil sedge]

idk

[proud gorge]

I guess that makes sense

[soft perch]

phrecia scarab economy was weird last time

[proud gorge]

so yeah, 28k phys max hit to survive every (normal) physical attack in the game

[soft perch]

maybe they make it so inc chance for x gives scarab chance

like atlas does now

that should help a lot

[proud gorge]

not including valdos ghosted feared

[tranquil sedge]

does maven witness increase boss damage or only give them other kinda buffs

i dont actually know what she does beyond the healing and the shit that slows u down or the bombs she summons

[modest depot]

i don't know if i really agree. a majority of the time is spent clearing blights

[limpid prairie]

Has anyone tried life flasks as recovery without pathfinder? And I mean investing on flask charges and stuff

[proud gorge]

Clone, Guard skill, Haste, Healing, Chaos DoT on hit, Player action speed slow, Fire degen orbs, Chilling orbs, Lightning orbs, Beam orbs

[modest depot]

spawn faster not only lets you ramp faster (more monster = more building mats) it also just simply speeds up your farm by a shit ton. clearing for altars barely takes time compared to sitting in the blight

[tranquil sedge]

oh right the clone thing

thanks

[modest depot]

and my plan is 3 mod 3x1 with beyond chance and going endless tide so spawn faster becomes even better

[tranquil sedge]

some builds with enough life can do it but its often a question of 'why bother' once you can use bette flasks with alternate recovery sources

[modest depot]

3 mod 2x1*

[soft perch]

u also spend a lot of time in blight actually fuckin building towers now

[tranquil sedge]

the main reason its great on pathfinder is the enduring effect

[soft perch]

especially since its more optimal to pause and build

cuz towermaxxing is more loot

[modest depot]

yeah i just can't imagine spawning monsters faster is somehow worse than reducing the cost of towers when you already are gonna get infinite building mats

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[proud gorge]

but yeah, Maven shouldn't cause you to actually take more than 27k phys in a single hit

[soft perch]

well maybe not worse but i think ideally u conqueror idol max

[proud gorge]

unless you get particularly unlucky with the clone and the original using slam at the same time

[modest depot]

i think 3x1 are stronger than conquerors

you really want more non unique its the best scaling imo

better than the effect

[tranquil sedge]

depends on if thats somehow the difference-maker for whether or not ur able to do the blight for some reason ig

[soft perch]

theyre multiplicative with one another

i think u want a relatively even split

[modest depot]

yeah im going 1 2x2 3 mod(2 mod to start) for effect

rest into 1x3 because they still give effect

and 3x1 mods are too goated

you unironically want 7 3x1 4 mod idols

which is obviously not going to happen

but that sjust how good it is

[limpid prairie]

So you kinda need big pool uh, makes sense...
Recovery is always hard to fit...

[proud gorge]

oh hey, apparently this build survives Uber Maven memory game, nice

almost two entire memory games, even

[modest depot]

@soft perch12 effect/ 10 pack size/ 35% more non unique monsters (bloodline juice goes insane) / rare monster scarab per modifier

[soft perch]

less common scarab conq idol is for sure mandatory tho

[modest depot]

yeah thats why i have the 2x2

[soft perch]

ya

[modest depot]

its gonna be effect effect scarab 3 mod

[soft perch]

ok i can see the vision

[proud gorge]

on the other hand I died to Uber Sirus

[modest depot]

because you can't really scale scarab % chance like you can in base game with idols

[proud gorge]

probably entirely because I don't have corrupted blood immunity

[modest depot]

or atleast its gonna suck

[soft perch]

the unique minor is for altars ye?

[modest depot]

cuz 1x1 suck

its singular focus. later endless tide

[split maple]

can we into vultures

[modest depot]

@soft perch best application of blight imo early is farming guardian maps/ 8 mods

[soft perch]

i kinda love the 5% quality mod on conquerors tho

cuz 30% qual maps is probably optimal

[proud gorge]

man, I only want to hit 28 challenges here, but man the last few challenges I need all just require clearing like 80 more maps at least

gotta get in there and do a bunch more Breach missions

[soft perch]

like each conqueror idol is 48% explicit effect

which is kinda stupid

although its probs chungusnerfed cuz ggg nerfed atlas in general

[modest depot]

i dont think it would be bad to go effect idols (honestly effect idols are bis for like every farm) i just think more monster spawn is a stat you can't juice to the moon in base game and is really reallllly good

just a matter if u value juicing scarab/currency roll more than spawning more monsters

[sour umbra]

When do we get patch notes

[soft perch]

ye for sure

i wonder if the per explicit mod thing works with the added map mods

[limpid prairie]

What about RF petrified blood and life flask for infinite life flask

[soft perch]

does that make risk scarabs buff ur maps on live?

i know it doesnt buff the mods themselves

[steady elk]

does every melee build run the same or something

[modest depot]

it doesn't work

[steady elk]

ie the progression path in skill tree

[soft perch]

f

[split maple]

no

[pulsar dune]

Sounds fine enough I guess.

[modest depot]

tested this morning yeah

[soft perch]

double explicit effect conquerors are genuinely quite easy to get

[modest depot]

idk

[soft perch]

which is why i like them

[modest depot]

i don't think so

[soft perch]

well u just recombinate them no

[modest depot]

double prefix and they will cost 50d per base now

since people know the value of them

[soft perch]

hm i dont think 50d for one mod conqs is gonna happen

[modest depot]

it did in phrecia xd

[soft perch]

towards the end cuz of inflation

[modest depot]

even early

after fubgun blew up exile farm

i know because i was selling them while doing the exile farm

[steady elk]

they all seem to take this pathway on marauder atleast

[split maple]

these had 1000 weight in ol phrecia, but issue is you need perfect divine on it

[soft perch]

i think ill just go ritual early cuz invig blight is still rough unless ur party playing

and then figure out blight shit

ritual is fuckin piss easy and all investment u put into it is worth it

• map mod shit doesnt matter

[modest depot]

i think 2x2 effect idols will just be straight up removed

not even nerfed

waiting patch notes .tm

[soft perch]

can see that

[modest depot]

if they just nerf/remove everything im not logging in

despite being so hyped

been planning trees and shit for 8 hours today

just for 90% of them to not work

because ggg doesnt want us to have loot

[split pagoda]

this pathing is pretty unconventional

[soft perch]

tbh i care less about juicing strats and more funny builds

[soft perch]

thats bleed boneshatter

[split maple]

Still looks suboptimal

Like why go for these duelist nodes

[soft perch]

pretty normal pathing for that build except he hasnt clicked the max res

[split pagoda]

cant be, why would it have aoe nodes and not +1 strike

[modest depot]

this my normal map enter tree for earthshatter zerker

[limpid prairie]

I like that there is money in the league cause when divines are pawned of for pennies crafting is easier

[soft perch]

well +1 strike doesnt rly do anything unless u have a habit of missing

which then it does a lot i suppose

[split pagoda]

its gonna feel completely awful without it

[soft perch]

wait im confused

[split pagoda]

and doesnt explain why itd have aoe nodes

[soft perch]

it has the aoe node

with the mastery

[split pagoda]

yes

[soft perch]

ye

the mastery is +1 strike

[steady elk]

fair enough

does it use bleed?

[modest depot]

mine does not no

not a bleed enjoyer

[strong totem]

Bs of complex trauma pgood

[pulsar dune]

Trauma stacks work like poison in that their duration doesn't refresh, right?

[modest depot]

earthshatter best build of all time we love earthshatter. it will definitely not get nerfed

[soft perch]

yes

but complex trauma deletes them all when u hit max

isnt this tree completely fine what am i missing

apart from the point at the bottom

that was a misclick

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, IK vaguely remember people have to keep AS such that they're at 9

[soft perch]

and soul of steel

[modest depot]

i do think heist idols would go so hard

maybe best day 1 strat?

honestly probably good forever

[soft perch]

tbh best day 1 strat will always be maps

[pulsar dune]

60% full reveal huh

[modest depot]

i think u drop inc bp per cache for another 6% chance to get 6 cache

[split pagoda]

bottom pathing better imo, and want tribal fury

[soft perch]

people want their t17s 16.5s and completions

[modest depot]

the small idols give so much bp chance

[soft perch]

tribal fury does nothing no?

boneshatter bleed already has big aoe when u stun

[modest depot]

yep its crazy

[split pagoda]

im pretty sure it still helps

[pulsar dune]

Maybe I go run heist

Actually no

[soft perch]

shrug i feel like aoe is better than tribal fury

[split pagoda]

boneshatter god always runs tribal fury so I trust

[soft perch]

youd have 0 aoe otherwise

[limpid prairie]

Think that people will be raining mirrors in a couple weeks so going into heist is not worthwhile
So alberons warpath will be 150 divines

[split pagoda]

(soul)

[split maple]

league will end in couple of weeks

[modest depot]

5 cache per map with 24% chance for 6 additional and 60% reveal is gonna be so juicy

[soft perch]

tbh im a little scared of enforced double risk maybe

[modest depot]

like 10 bps a map

[soft perch]

thats why im doing t16 strats

[tranquil sedge]

where's everyone mentioning risk from

[limpid prairie]

I don't believe that!

[tranquil sedge]

risk is capped to 1x right whats the other source

[modest depot]

4 map mods in maps randomly added

[wispy comet]

i hope i wake up to patch notes

[tranquil sedge]

oh like that

[strong totem]

It's almost 1 for 1 with a known goat

[modest depot]

risk is 2 mods now

[pulsar dune]

I meant running the BPs

[modest depot]

oh yeah like that

i see what u mean

[soft perch]

tribal fury is probably better when u have ass gear

brinkmanship outscales

[modest depot]

could always sell them. async makes selling them not aids anymore

[steady elk]

that's what im running rn tho my build is kinda ass and i can't get to 9 stacks

[tranquil sedge]

t16s got brick mods too tho, honestly more than similar to what t17 does
depending on t17 prices even if u dont do the boss u might still benefit from running them

[modest depot]

but i think heist is the best vibe mechanic since they changed leveling them

i'd just run only fully revealed and sell the rest

[soft perch]

its not about brick mods

[modest depot]

little loot boxes once in a while

[soft perch]

also the extra map mods are supposed to not be brick mods

its about actual content difficulty

[strong totem]

It's a level 93 tree for league start

[split maple]

i am rly interested into ggg definition of brick mod

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[soft perch]

t17s with 4 extra random damage/tank mods does sound kinda rough unless ur playing a giga build

[modest depot]

they are gonna consider elemental penetration as a non brick mod

[soft perch]

very early league

[modest depot]

and we are gonna get it every map

[soft perch]

ye

[tranquil sedge]

fair enough

[soft perch]

and -max

xdd

[pulsar dune]

Are there any relevant mods for eldritch altars on idols?

[split maple]

issue with t17 is mob types too

[soft perch]

ye

t17s actually sound kinda scary

genuinely

[split maple]

like t16 dont have them ball lightning map brickers

[tranquil sedge]

reduced max res and ele pen aren't technically bricks
but yea it can hurt a lottt

[soft perch]

thats why i go t16 ritual amen

[soft perch]

i will live in the sewers

surfcasting around

[modest depot]

ele pen is a full brick bro

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[modest depot]

that shit is not ok

[split maple]

10 endurance charges 🙏

[soft perch]

ya i legit think anyone not party playing and not ancestral commandeering should not expect to farm t17s early on lul

its not gonna be easy

[modest depot]

you'd have to be playing like some 90% fire cap sublime build and even then

[pulsar dune]

Maybe a flawed refuge DF behemoth

[soft perch]

unless ur ok with dying a lot

[brazen vector]

make it 11

[soft perch]

tbh boxes are kinda easy so

[tranquil sedge]

probably a welcome change tho

[soft perch]

u can do that

[split maple]

my plan for brick mods is to have max hit low enough not to notice them

[split pagoda]

mines similar but I take fortify wheel and run lifetap until I solve mana, without the mana leech stuff

[soft perch]

based

[pulsar dune]

Nice nice

[limpid prairie]

If the T17 map doesn't have underground enemies it won't be too bad to farm

[strong totem]

I hear surf casting armor stack is the best carry

[modest depot]

spirit of war + mana flask is enough imo but thats viable

[pulsar dune]

I'm going to be collecting raw chaos from exarch altars then IG

[tranquil sedge]

what are underground enemies

[modest depot]

i do think fortify support is better than clicking on tree

[native abyss]

cant wait to play RF

[past rain]

shrining kb lowk https://pobb.in/fCk2OotweOKV

[modest depot]

especially since there really isn't many better supports that you would want to run

[split maple]

ball lightning + remove % of life/es/mana on hit is brutal if you dont offscreen reliably

[pulsar dune]

-maxres reduced recovery rate on every scene is GG

[split maple]

add to that the fun stuff

[tranquil sedge]

recovery on block is pretty much the only counter to this mod

[modest depot]

and u start maps with bare minimum a 5 link and most likely 6link so easy to just put in

[tranquil sedge]

either that or like u said offscreen yea

[split maple]

i am only so mad about that mob + mod combo since i bricked like 20 maps on my cws before i realized that this is whats making hit immunity not hit immune

[tranquil sedge]

that mob is spooky dude

even on stong builds i try to kill em fast

[split maple]

idk who thought having them multihit is acceptable

[tranquil sedge]

probably to give us a taste of how we make monsters feel

and the issue isn't even multihit per ball lightning

its u have a whole fucking pack of them at once

and every single one is chucking ball lightning at u

[modest depot]

do you run ruthless or fist of war instead in 6th link if no fortify?

[split pagoda]

no for 6link absolutely fortify

but b4 that supports are good

[tranquil sedge]

those are definitely the scariest t17 enemy

everything else is objectively a step down

[modest depot]

i do map enter with fortify on 4l. i think its just too good

[split pagoda]

ya I dont think thats worth personally

[modest depot]

sunder -fist of war- pulverise - over exert

i swap fist of war with fortify

on map enter

then put it back in on 5l

then swap for melee phys later because melee phys + pulverise = slow as fuck attack speed unless ui ahve good axe already

[open yarrow]

guys I need some build advice can someone help me

I sent the build in #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[modest depot]

just seems bad to spend the 5 points on 3 fortifiy but i see the value

i do think with tree every one should be starting maps with a 6link cuz no reason not to

[split pagoda]

well you dont necessarily enter map with 6l even with tree

[modest depot]

like you would have to have skipped every breach after act 6

you save 50+ provisioning until u unlock 6link node + body armour + a target

[split pagoda]

no you can very easily have done the occasional open breach and still not get a 6l

defo not gonna be doing defend shit tho

[soft perch]

my build needs a fuckin ff combo for defences

i may be cooking myself

tbh born in the shadows for surfcaster is completely nuts

[modest depot]

my surfcaster f&f is gonna be soul drinker probably

or polymath

[soft perch]

im coping that born in the shadows is cheapish

and reasonable to pick up

[split pagoda]

this is the tree I do for map entry

[soft perch]

ye i am completely winging my setup i dont even know what spell to use before i get fury valve

[modest depot]

yeah i've been a big fan of unwavering early recently. also its a bad snapshot cuz another reason i like pathing more in middle is for brinkmanship

i think on sunder and specifically clearing hive fortress it feels way too good

also block mastery for expedition enjoyer

[split pagoda]

brinkmanship is good yeah, I dont care about unwavering outside of bosses tho

[modest depot]

i unspec out of it later but it feels best to me early when u lack armour bases

afteru get really stuff from tree u can drop easily

but it also ties into spirit of war being mandatory for me early

until leech jewel then i respec

i would give it a try if u haven't already (ifu plan on ac)

[jagged raven]

Daughter of Oshabi looks cool for a league starter in the event

[modest depot]

it makes campaign feel so much better

way better than cannibalistic rite + mana flask(although u still would want one probably)

this is like the new a5 core. im clicking unwavering in act 5 lol. but u get to take better nodes in a more dense area than doing the normal pathing to wrecking ball

[split pagoda]

yeah no mine looks way different lol

[modest depot]

yeah i used to do your pathing which was traditional zerker setup

[split pagoda]

i play on hc so I like to get some more defense earlier

[modest depot]

but i had some friends cook zerker starts since we started practicing them so much

[split pagoda]

esp in this event im not gonna feel comfy with that pathing

[modest depot]

yeah its hc tree. although i'd recomend pathing heart of warrior + warrior blood early and skipping kinetic

i didn't cook the tree it was made by hc ssf enjoyer

[split pagoda]

yeah I wouldnt do that personally

[modest depot]

fair enough

[sinful warren]

Aaaaaa patch notes when grrre

[modest depot]

@split pagoda are you doing hc ssf in phrecia?

[split pagoda]

probably yes

[modest depot]

you are a beast bro

gl

seems like its gonna be one of those get randomly one shot by fucked shit leagues

random mods + enrage(if enrage stays as it is, it will be cooked)

[soft perch]

'no bricks mods'

meanwhile walk into map extra proj inc aoe -max ele pen

[onyx adder]

I will hcssf phrecia if either AC gets changed significantly or theres another good option

[split pagoda]

yeah i was gonna do like an uber shaper rush since I did a lot of practice recently but the extra mods and stuff is gonna make it tough lol

[civic charm]

Will phrecia league bring back pyroclastic mines?

[split pagoda]

not happening on day1 with enrage and random mods lol

[onyx adder]

Being pigeonholed into 1 build is never that fun

[modest depot]

then with idol sustain its gonna be really bad having to skip maps that just roll cooked stuff

already hard enough to sustain

[soft perch]

i think ppl are gonna mald so hard

[onyx adder]

Yea its gonna be slow

[split pagoda]

so im pretty sure the angle is treating it like gauntlet almost

ill just die if I rush

[modest depot]

for sure

[onyx adder]

I mald less in tough content generally since i treat it with more respect

[modest depot]

even the campaign is gonna be rough. i think people planning starters that aren't ac are gonna be in for bad time in campaign

[onyx adder]

Regular hc i climb too fast and die

[modest depot]

but maybe im reading too deep into it

[split pagoda]

no ur almost certainly right

[onyx adder]

Yea im going the 10 hour campaign gauntlet approach if i plac hcssf

[split pagoda]

ive felt alot of people are missing how rippy this shit is gonna be

[split maple]

number of mods scaling by area level hopefully means 1 mod for entire campaign, but for sure soft startes will quickly learn the create new instance thingie

for hc good luck 😄

[onyx adder]

Its not rly something u want to be 5 levels under for i think

[modest depot]

like i consider myself decent at the campaign and these surfcaster runs i've been doing have been so shit defensively that i think its gonna be people getting farmed

[onyx adder]

Just in case theres random crit mod in campaign or some bullshit

[tight plinth]

im gonna do the old fashioned strat of throwing bodies at it till i finish campaign

[modest depot]

and i dont see how its possible to even make the build that much tankier withotu sacrifcing 80% dps

[soft perch]

surfcaster is fine defensively if u go self chill but u actually need a decent way to get it working

and its not 0 investment at all

at least for softcore

[crystal talon]

You make surfcaster tankier by respecing from arakaali

[split pagoda]

if the mods are hourly reset and its the right mod on the right boss certain builds are gonna be in for an interesting time

[soft perch]

ye i think thats my plan

[split pagoda]

im guessing a5 onwards might be 2 mods, 1 up to that point

[soft perch]

envy is good and aspect of the spider stuff is completely fine until uber lab

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, you may have to actually put effort into your act run power

[split maple]

hopefuly mods will also have some scaling themselves, like campaign limited to only white map mods

[soft perch]

i just have no idea what skill to play until i get fury valve

spells are so fuckin shit

[modest depot]

Yeah spells suck ass

[crystal talon]

Every build that isn't AC horker sucks 📣

[modest depot]

I've been practicing rolling magma surfcaster for start to transition into duo spark/penance setup but the early mapping power seems so shit that I've changed plan into power siphon surfcaster until map prog done

Because my aurabot isn't joining me until basically 4 stone

I thought surfcaster shock prolif + berek shock ring would be good clear but it seems subpar

[crystal talon]

Explode kills prolif

[hexed mountain]

Just play kinetic fusillade with envy

[modest depot]

But its like same thing as inpulsa + storm gift which I thought was good

But maybe the tech was over rated

[split maple]

doesnt berek line in particular kill prolif?

[hexed mountain]

People sleep on KF. Its easily the best skill in the game for leveling. Easily

[split maple]

like inpulsa + gift should be ok

[soft perch]

will keep it in mind

[split maple]

oh wait its same wording

idk

[crystal talon]

"Enemies you kill are Shocked" line carries the combo actually

[split pagoda]

as it stands I havent even tried considering a non-AC starter, maybe itll change after patch notes lol

[hexed mountain]

Idk it if its worth 2 asc points rather than storm's gift on surf who has a lot of good points tho

[crystal talon]

Oh surf has that line

[soft perch]

surfcaster has this

[split pagoda]

phrecia ascendancies in general just feel underwhelming to me defensively

[crystal talon]

then idk should be the same.

[modest depot]

Yeah sorry it's 1:1 same lines

Surf caster and storm gift

[soft perch]

i think its the lack of aoe @modest depot

[modest depot]

And berek and inpulsa

[crystal talon]

I mean it isn't like berek's ignite level good.

[soft perch]

i noticed bereks not feeling great when i specced out of some aoe on elementalist

and then felt incredible once i got a bit more

surf has zero aoe

[crystal talon]

But if aoe/density is high enough shock-explode should clear multiple packs

[hexed mountain]

More density with phrecia random 2 mods

[modest depot]

Double bereks did work exceptionally better but then you are down 2 rings or 100d

[hexed mountain]

Explode chest gaming

[soft perch]

i think this phrecia is going to be quite unpopular

[modest depot]

Also you need a source of all damage can ignite (dyadian dawn) and ignite chance for that to work even

[soft perch]

harder maps + low defences from most phrecia ascendancies + phrecia progression in general is very sloggy early on

= subreddit very mad

[hexed mountain]

Free risk scarab

[split maple]

wait for idol nerfs which we will only see from datamine or smh

gonna be a beautiful meltdown

[hexed mountain]

I like it

[tranquil sedge]

im gonna enjoy playing apex and noita and watch the meltdown in real time on a second monitor if that happens

[hexed mountain]

Especially since GGG decided risk scarabs are now rarer than divs

[modest depot]

i have quite a few friends already having vibes killed by how long its taking patch notes to come out

[tranquil sedge]

perks of being on a break from poe wew

[modest depot]

kinda crazy

[split maple]

surely they wont remove my morigan per 5 maps idols with nerfs

[modest depot]

surely we get patch notes before thursday

[split pagoda]

it would be funny (or painful lol) if they did that

Giga nerf idols before an event of all things

[modest depot]

tbh that would be enough for me to quit poe entirely

already on the fence

its not even bout if they deserve to get nerfed or not but just how tone deaf you would have to be as a company

historically bad league that requires an event because we nerfed all the loot

lets nerf loot again

[split maple]

gonna be a bunch more of these before thursday

[steady elk]

so once im done with the atlas how do i get into T17 maps?

i already beat both pinnacles

[split maple]

grab 4 voidstones

[steady elk]

errr how do i get the other two?

[modest depot]

maven and uber elder

[split maple]

follow the quests?

[steady elk]

right

[modest depot]

after that u start dropping them often enough

[steady elk]

that's after completing the atlas right?

[spice pecan]

esm

[split maple]

most folks do both at same time

[spice pecan]

stop using light mode

we love you but stop

[modest depot]

i'd say the weakest t17 is comparable to an alched t16 but the hardest t17 is

[steady elk]

right

[spice pecan]

[split pagoda]

Im pretty optimistic tho wasnt really thinking about potential idol nerfs before people brought it up

[split maple]

its easier on the eyes

on your eyes

[split pagoda]

Im thinking the rebalance is just ascendancies and thats it

[split maple]

"idols will also be making a comeback! Since the last time we ran this event, we’ve added a new set of modifiers for the Settlers League and Atlas Memories, but disabled modifiers for Breach. " ig this could be read as no other changes except listed

[spice pecan]

on no ones eyes except ppl who sleep wif tha lights on

[modest depot]

well they have to atleast nerf most likely map effect conquerors. niko azurite node

[spice pecan]

dont mention that ffs

[modest depot]

if idols are unnerfed out side of azurite node which should get removed

[split maple]

some betrayal nodes on atlas were changed too right

[modest depot]

ill buy 500 supporter pack

[spice pecan]

they gonna sniff that and stealth nerf it

[modest depot]

not that i know of

[spice pecan]

clipped and shippped

[soft perch]

im playing phrecia no matter what cuz i just wanna play some poe

[modest depot]

they just nerfed grav

[spice pecan]

-500

[split pagoda]

I suppose their logic could be that its migrating to the main league

So they need to rebalance idols to not destroy the (dead) economy of keepers

[modest depot]

[spice pecan]

sorry bout your wallet

[split maple]

They surely destroying my lil ssf economy in a good way

[strong totem]

I feel this

[split maple]

There Will be migrate to parent from event button during event tho right?

Not just ssf to trade

[modest depot]

yeah

should be

[whole bluff]

I wouldn't trust there to be. Isn't there often some problems with migrating when you could go different places?

[modest depot]

i've never had an issue migrating to a random place but idk

i migrate very often

[whole bluff]

With different targets though?

[modest depot]

Negative not much on that

but it should be

[whole bluff]

I don't know for sure, and have no personal experience, I just remember someone complaining

Something about a prompt on league end to make SSF temp league go SSF, and if you missed that then you just had Trade? But idr, very hazy, I could be wrong, just wording caution I guess

[modest depot]

could be worth testing if u remember before actually starting the league

just to make sure while stakes are low

[restive nova]

why i cannot open map when i use scarabs? even 1 scarab i cannot,

[modest depot]

did you select a map craft

[restive nova]

cannot select

all red

[modest depot]

do you have unwavering vision clicked

on the top of the tree

[tight plinth]

^

[modest depot]

yeah your atlas tree

[restive nova]

oh

[restive nova]

ok thank you

i just wanted to try gold farm, these scarabs are okay to try ?

[whole bluff]

This ye

[proud gorge]

I, uh, I don't think that adds up to 100%

[whole bluff]

For the record, could be someone not understanding the UI, or something else

[proud gorge]

it's a Tempered By War + Dawnbreaker build, but it just leaves like 12% unconverted lightning and cold

I guess because it's too difficult or expensive to fully convert

truly this is a build of all time

[ancient sorrel]

full unique achievement?

[modest depot]

deaths per hour gaming

[proud gorge]

they're also rocking, uh, 89% suppression chance

[haughty ermine]

lol.

they're uniques, so they're def. better than rares

[proud gorge]

these numbers aren't bad, though. Like, that's a bit short of surviving Shaper Slam, but it should survive most other things?

[haughty ermine]

conditionals?

[proud gorge]

Molten Shell is off

here's with it turned on

[umbral crag]

Looks solid enough

[modest depot]

alright drop the pob lil bro i don't believe this

[proud gorge]

so it should be able to tank Shaper Slam with its manual cast Molten Shell lmao

[modest depot]

if i can believe it you will foreve rbe my big bro

[proud gorge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Ninjamanface-5152/RougeAngle

[edgy acorn]

Login guys

[vast cradle]

GGG 👀

[haughty ermine]

using the taming on ele hit

lol

[modest depot]

ok nvm i believe it. bro does no damage

[haughty ermine]

unseen hue is worlds better

oh, it's SoS yuck

[golden timber]

what mechanics do you guys usually league start? I realized that Ive only done harvest or essence

[tranquil sedge]

harvest for life baby

[haughty ermine]

also inspiration support lmao

[tight plinth]

whatever idol drops the ost

[proud gorge]

I think the damage is, like, slightly better than what poe.ninja lists, but yeah it's not very high lmao

[modest depot]

red altars and betrayal

[haughty ermine]

his dps is probably like 40m

[golden timber]

oh right i also did betrayal a couple times

[whole bluff]

Red altars will be my gig for challenge

[golden timber]

betrayal just feels so rng

[whole bluff]

And currency

[stoic horizon]

classic map sustain atlas -> destructive play

[modest depot]

i play a lot of private leagues

so i've kinda optimized my start

[golden timber]

What do you get out of using destructive play?

more maps?

[stoic horizon]

boss maps

[whole bluff]

Tons of special maps and chisels

[stoic horizon]

shaper/elder/conq maps

[modest depot]

this like my starting tree 99% of the time then destructive play after for finishing out atlas https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAYAABFAB_Kh9RfPniAqe-EKg5Ap-IhYDD6KOeUg7VmzgB8q8n9OIh9Wo3q2VsXuh19t12L4X2ROJ3e_rGX1yue2CfJTdoCrimNnqtFl6d7s8fnrvXe4RCtlaVz6-G8SXOZotDLF8QfVIeu75GJYMgYi47Ywa8LccOXKraP5QMwM8bJ_omjqUPjP7Vj6WfQKBQAH4sIAAAAAAAAAwMAAAAAAAAAAAA=

[golden timber]

sounds pretty nice

[whole bluff]

The maps sustain your formed/twisted, the chisels sell

[stoic horizon]

and also for phrecia bosses drop a lot of idols

[whole bluff]

And elderslayers and forgotten

[stoic horizon]

yeah i farm up a bunch of fragment maps and then do invitation rotas

[golden timber]

maybe i should do destructive play so i actually get all the favoured maps

[whole bluff]

Last phrecia had juiced boss map drop idols

[golden timber]

I get them sooooo late into the league

[whole bluff]

You could get like 15% for last boss (all destructive play count as last boss) to drop shaper etc

Iirc

Meaning hydra etc

[stoic horizon]

yeah destructive play was giga juicy in last phrecia

[modest depot]

remember my first farm of phrecia being this and the unique idols just being so cancer lol

was just city square boss rush with titanic

no altars just boss

[whole bluff]

Ah, you also couldn't hide idols right

[modest depot]

yeah

[whole bluff]

On filter

Hope we can do that now

[modest depot]

i believe they added it later in the league

pretty sure u can

[whole bluff]

Ah

Late league I just did eater

A few harbies

[modest depot]

its a really good farm but was kinda duo enabled early. and i had effect idols before they shot up in price

[gentle ice]

why would you want to hide idols tho 🤔 , especially with npc identify now 😁 unless you're playing ssf i guess

[modest depot]

just kill boss and go

unique idols are valueless after day 1

look how many im dropping lol

[whole bluff]

On big juice they clutter a lot

[modern zinc]

huh

[haughty ermine]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe/profile/6b47434c-462a-412e-964e-3b13bfe67cbc/builds/748c9cd1-9d78-472b-a916-53bc6abd5e34

[gentle ice]

oh lol i thought those were just normal idols nvm then yeah unique ones are pretty meh in value

[modest depot]

yeah all unique idols

the normal idols barely dropped but u would getlike 50 unique idols

tho to be fair i did hide normal idols too

3x1 and 2x2 only ones worth my inventory space

[hardy palm]

Phrecia: Anyone know if the Paladin Aura ascendancy reserve mana? e.g level 30 Grace

[modest depot]

they do

[hardy palm]

noooooo

[modest depot]

and you can't link to enlighten

[hardy palm]

😢

[barren river]

which is insanely cringe

[gentle ice]

i made lots of money with idols in phrecia personally, identify everything -> regex -> sell everything not good for 3:1 repeat

[finite quail]

SURELY patchnotes today

[proud gorge]

oh hey, that's not bad at all

[barren river]

just brick unique idols 👍

[modest depot]

yes i did too. but i don't think its worth the effort on non 3x1 or 2x2

[proud gorge]

I wonder why its DPS is so much higher than the build I'm looking at

[modest depot]

minor idols were also fine but just didnt want to manage them

[tulip junco]

Guys cause I’m new and no one answer on other channel. Guys Alva master explorer. Temple of atzoate I can do this incursions for later? Or better to do it when I find her?

[haughty ermine]

config options. his dps is pretty low though

double taming is moronic on ele hit

[finite quail]

anytime

[barren river]

totally not going insane

[haughty ermine]

like, just, absolute nonsense.

[barren river]

go to #1┃after-acts-help

[finite quail]

the ones you find in places you can do them or skip them, the next time you find alva you can do her incursions again

[barren river]

y tho?

[finite quail]

you do them multiple times until the temple layout is full

[haughty ermine]

I'd guess he's around 40-60m

[tulip junco]

I’m in act not after

[finite quail]

then you run the temple or reset it

[finite quail]

read chat

[tulip junco]

Sure bro I use 🫡

[finite quail]

aight

[proud gorge]

what's wrong with double taming? I tried swapping the build off SoS and onto Scorch/Brittle Unseen Hue and it just loses a lot of damage

[finite quail]

SOS

[proud gorge]

and like, I'm not sure where the build otherwise gets damage per ailment, or whatever

[haughty ermine]

no clue why

[finite quail]

saas soos suus

[proud gorge]

the mobalytics build guide says "don't use Taming, +1 ailment from Unseen Hue is just better" but I'm not entirely sure why

[finite quail]

scorch is nice

brittle is nice

sap is nice

[haughty ermine]

attack speed, increased eff. of ailments, applying ailments

[proud gorge]

it is yeah, but Secrets of Suffering gets you both anyways

and the only DPS benefit you lose out on is Shock

[haughty ermine]

but also requires skitterbots and 2 passive points + cluster jewel jewel slot

it's clunky as shit

[proud gorge]

oh good point, I missed that that build is running Skitterbots

[haughty ermine]

you have to with SoS

[modest depot]

also losing freeze is so sad

[proud gorge]

oh wait

[haughty ermine]

freeze is the best ailment

[proud gorge]

I didn't realize Elemental Hit itself has damage per ailment

[haughty ermine]

yes

also hi i wrote what i linked you

lol

[proud gorge]

I was like "why would you care about +1 ailment if you're not using taming"

is that new or have I just missed it all these leagues lmao

[haughty ermine]

don't think it's been changed

the base dmg, attack speed, and aoe got buffed the last two leagues

[modest depot]

even if it didn't have. losing freeze is major defensive loss for not a big gain if you aren't a build crutching on brittle crit

[proud gorge]

fair yeah

[stoic horizon]

its been there as long as i remember

[proud gorge]

I'll give it a try, I haven't actually played any prismatic builds since they added Trinity and started trying to actually support trinity builds

[haughty ermine]

if you have questions, there's a discord linked

or ping me

it's fun