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shrewd rock
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roguelite : shape of dreams is an example

plush gulch
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why do they care about lihgning bolt ?

split maple
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choir

plush gulch
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ahh

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yeah no regular mjolner

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phew

golden timber
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Ive only league started essence and harvest for like 3 leagues what do you guys do?

plush gulch
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I mean it's probably still zdps like he said

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so doesn't work

frigid wedge
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last party play experience was uh, as a hybrid crybot druggery

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which meant even in the chill part i was having an aneurism

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because i was managing 6 warcries, mines and a life flask that required me reserving to low life

whole bluff
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Cooperating is more fun in games where it fits better imo

split maple
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did anyone get abyssal jewels from jewelry chests in heist this league?

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like i was getting them commonly in mercs but didnt get any in this run

plush gulch
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@shrewd rockmaybe squire mjolner with lightning bolt

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6 link lightning bolt

frigid wedge
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its from amulet

shrewd rock
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If GGG wants to try making gameplay that's more friendly to party play

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it can't be with maps

shrewd rock
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it has to be with how the roguelikes to do

whole bluff
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Maybe some sanctum stuff

shrewd rock
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where there's a small arena that spawns in enemies for 20-30 seconds

plush gulch
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@frigid wedge mjolner has lightning bolt on cast as a foulborn modifier

shrewd rock
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unlikely for poo1

whole bluff
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You see each other on a tactical map and unlock doors or disable hazards in the other persons instance. But they'd be relying on people using voice chat

whole bluff
frigid wedge
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right

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so just

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lc of heavens

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but shit

plush gulch
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maybe it's naive to think it's enough single target

hard cliff
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you had so much potential

shrewd rock
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to be honest, didn't that game die

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not bc of the game

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but bc of the dev decisions

hard cliff
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that's my understanding yes

shrewd rock
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like i remember ppl enjoyed it

hard cliff
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but I haven't watched a 30 min YouTube video essay so I'm not an expert....yet

hexed mountain
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because of management decision i would say

plush gulch
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it's the kind of game you play for a bit, that's fun when you're done

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then you'rte done*

hexed mountain
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i remember when battlerite royale came out everyone was playing it during the free week , you'd meet streamers left and right

plush gulch
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idk if it had people loyal to it

hard cliff
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Roughly speaking it was all the fun of a Dota 2 Team fight without all of the you know half an hour time commitment

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I did not play the br

hexed mountain
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and then they went "alright no more free"

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and everyone left because its mainly fun when playing with friends... who then need to have bought it

untold zephyr
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what does the number on a militant faith even do?

split maple
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96-97 took 117 wings using solely hive and frostblink of wintry to clear

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pretty comfy

tight plinth
split maple
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cmon game

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why do you make me pick

hard cliff
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desire

tight plinth
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its +5, id take the ring

dusky void
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Are there skills that can beat eviscerats one hit dmg?

split maple
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yeah taking the coggie

untold zephyr
elfin shale
split maple
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just annoying leaving +1 for collection there 😄

tight plinth
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crushing fist?

elfin shale
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Possibly Flameblast of Contraction

finite quail
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mamba is also close

split maple
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heist jewelry feels hella buffed

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3 rings and 2 belts in 120 wings

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maybe jsut luck but still

elfin shale
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Maybe ill do bleed mamba ScuffThink
Objectively worse than poison? perhaps

hard cliff
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do both

tight plinth
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someone get munin out the kitchen

hard cliff
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at the same time

tight plinth
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hes been cooking too long

elfin shale
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Im going insane waiting for patch notes

hexed mountain
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in phrecia?

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mamba in hives and tower defense = CBT

whole bluff
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Melee in hives is so bad ngl

hexed mountain
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the mobs are just separated enough for no spread

whole bluff
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I could pop screens, but not before they almost killed foulborn girl

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Ailith

hard cliff
hexed mountain
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i did mamba too in keepers , felt horrible for league events but eh its nice for blight

whole bluff
hexed mountain
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also since the weapon resist change mamba is insanely easy to craft weapon wise

dusky void
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Oh crushing is just better eviscerate im thinking about scavenger self ignite for phercia it could be solid i think

golden phoenix
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Is Ailith the same Ailith?

We replace most of the cells in our body every so often. Are we the same person?

Ship of Ailith?

elfin shale
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Ailith of Theseus actually

whole bluff
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I am a hypocrite, but I agree

hexed mountain
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i tell the truth to ailith everytime the tree gives me bad loot

hard cliff
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dunno about you all here though

tight plinth
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im jonesing for a dart but all the shops are closed VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

golden phoenix
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Theseus of Ailith?

whole bluff
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I am an atheist so I am V of Theseus

hard cliff
dusky void
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How can you get the highest flat dmg for a ignite build ephemeral edge or the life stack axe or smth else

hard cliff
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I have no idea who calls it a dart besides but that's my guess

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wait they use another word in England for cigs

plush gulch
tight plinth
elfin shale
dusky void
tight plinth
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im working kek

dusky void
tight plinth
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i sure would love to sleep rn

plush gulch
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9PM for me

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Im in bed like an old person

pulsar dune
elfin shale
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It might not be the best

golden phoenix
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It's 9 AM here. I don't like it. Timezones are fake.

pulsar dune
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IG str->es stack is quadratic flat as well

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but that's kinda not real

plush gulch
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In France we have a good Time Zone

meager ridge
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whats the difference between these 2 mods?

dusky void
pulsar dune
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jiquani ignite is probably sort of real as well

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you don't get any cast speed

golden phoenix
dusky void
plush gulch
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And x that's twitter

meager ridge
pulsar dune
meager ridge
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or does % over 100% just spawn more legions

golden phoenix
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So if the base chance is 8%, 100% increased chance would put you at 16%. +100% would give you 108%.

I don't think it does anything above 100%?

meager ridge
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Weird to have that mod then

golden phoenix
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Don't quote me on that.

whole bluff
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PoE2 started using a keyword for when it matters if you reach like 200%

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Idr what it was

golden phoenix
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I don't either. I should.

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Surpassing chance?

whole bluff
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Yeah

meager ridge
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I would assume it does go above 100% since its phrecia

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your maps would have 10 legions

tight plinth
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maybe the extra 8% is the chance to get another legion? Pogott

proper crater
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Does Path of Building support the Phrecia ascendancies?

plush gulch
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Kinda

whole bluff
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Iirc, phrecia mostly wasnt surpassing. Basically only necropolis in poe1 I know for sure was surpassing

plush gulch
meager ridge
plush gulch
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Lot if stuff dont work

proper crater
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Thanks, found it!

dusky void
# pulsar dune IG means I guess

Oh yeah because i want chieftain ascendancy forbidden flesh flame for ignite immunity anyway than ivory str stack and ephermeral edge but i cant use rings that hurts i need winterweave and stormfire to ignite

golden phoenix
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I should look at witch for forbidden jewel mods I might want, that I won't get because I won't play enough to get to that point.

plush gulch
proper crater
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My understanding is that the phrecia ascendancies are the same, but maybe some values will change for balance purposes. Certainly thematically the same anyway

pulsar dune
golden phoenix
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Withering presence has potential, would let me drop my wither totems and would make chaos res easier

dusky void
golden phoenix
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Shaper of flames could be interesting for phys mitigation

plush gulch
dusky void
golden phoenix
plush gulch
# dusky void Yes

One of the first thing i wanted to build in phrecia was blackflame fulcrum tainted pact but im too dumb

golden phoenix
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Nevermind, I'm already using all the parts that's required

plush gulch
dusky void
plush gulch
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But good idea

pulsar dune
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you use profane proxy

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skitters are consistent enough if you get quality

kindred silo
plush gulch
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Good idea guys

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The cool thing is ignite prolif explosion or whatever should refresh the tainted pact heal

dusky void
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Yeah im tied yesterday to pob some fulcrum scav builds but i couldnt realy become tanky and past 20mil dps

plush gulch
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That's already good

dusky void
dusky void
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How much can you heal yourself with tainted pact tho if you have a 10mil ignite do you heal yourself for 10mil?

pulsar dune
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yea

plush gulch
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U need to factor chaos res and chaos mitigation

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That's all?

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And général dmg reductiin

dusky void
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Wtf so fulcrum tainted pact and than you only need max hit and dmg no recovery anymore?????

pulsar dune
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yea, if you can keep leech up

plush gulch
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Yes in theory

normal hedge
plush gulch
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But complicated to set up

dusky void
plush gulch
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U need to be perma leeching

hard cliff
plush gulch
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But its worth to fix this problème

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If you can

dusky void
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So for perma leech petrified blood and than idk some way to get leech uptime consistent how long does leech last normally

tight plinth
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couldnt just go CI?

dusky void
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Or some self hit leech flask suffix stuff?

kindred silo
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u kinda have to go for some self hit setup so that no leech rares dont just insta kill u

hard cliff
plush gulch
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losking hunred thousand heal per secvond sucks though

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if you can keep it

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@dusky voidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5bnJOmRF8M

This is an all-encompassing discussion on why Tainted Pact can be good and how to effectively use it. I appreciate any and all feedback!

Wiki: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tainted_Pact

Link to Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CRvEgz4iPC2ovd_-7FaIGi_aP5boR0KqbeTCZqL-b6U/edit?usp=sharing

0:00 Intro
2:33 What is Tainted Pact?
5:31...

▶ Play video
dusky void
# tight plinth couldnt just go CI?

Would be also an option but than you dont need tainted pact so the crazy sustain would be gone but i will try to theory craft now stuff with blackflame one life one ci char maybe

plush gulch
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if you need some ideas

split maple
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oh lookie

whole bluff
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Neat

plush gulch
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many ways to deal with leech

golden phoenix
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Maybe I should go for golden rule + tainted pact thinking

plush gulch
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everyone should do this

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everyone

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;p

plush gulch
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and hitting enough

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the cool is when it's set up and if you have enough heal you can use strenght of blood to transform the leech into phys mitigation

dusky void
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We could use pathfinder ff for perma flask uptime than we only need a way to self hit and perma leech is fixed

plush gulch
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you should still be considered leeching

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but you leech zero

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instead phys dr

golden phoenix
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I'm using petrified blood so I can overleech (is that the term? I forget)

plush gulch
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you cooking

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snake you are good guy

plush gulch
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so you need either lot of small constant leeches

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or a big leech

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if it's big enough it will last longer

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so you need a leech long enough that is longer than the dot

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because if not when you stop leeching you instantly take all the dmg

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and you die

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after all the 100 poison on you become

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instant death

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or big ignite*

hard cliff
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@plush gulch

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good

plush gulch
split maple
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why is replica allure 140k dust while fated end is 7k dust but both are roughly same rarity UHM

dusky void
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oh lol another benefit about pathfinder ff is progenesis with petrifeid blood can be perma up

tight plinth
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crit multi mods are always global yeah?

modest depot
plush gulch
plush gulch
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@dusky voidyou fixed one of the issue why I gave up on fulcrum tainted pact

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thanks

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i hope I can make it work

kindred silo
dusky void
plush gulch
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and scion is in not a bad bad spot to get some flask node

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on bog shaman it would be annoying

dusky void
plush gulch
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me I don't know yet

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your idea about hexblast seems solid

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when you think of the fact i'll travel with it on me

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so it won't be as bad

haughty gale
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How many days head of keepers did we get patch notes anyone remember?

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I wanna see if I am coping with the monday release

dusky void
plush gulch
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hexblast is cooler

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crushing fist probably less annoying to play

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I don't have much trust in the curse appplication of the skitterbot

tall belfry
whole bluff
finite quail
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Pretty sure it was when the stream dropped

golden phoenix
finite quail
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Like an hour after streamm

haughty gale
finite quail
whole bluff
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Nah

tall belfry
dusky void
golden phoenix
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It's currently 9:42 AM in NZ

tall belfry
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What

whole bluff
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Ah, winter is same time but PM in Sweden

golden phoenix
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I miss Sweden

plush gulch
tall belfry
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Holy shit I thought NZ was like 8 hours ahead of me, not 12

whole bluff
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But you put clock back around 18th of March, and we put it forward, so then my 10PM will be 8AM

plush gulch
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I already missed my bed and I only left it for 20min

whole bluff
plush gulch
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because im excited about tainted pact

dusky void
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yeah im not 100% sold on going tainted pact yet maybe CI is better higher max hit with ES and solid sustain thru other stuff

plush gulch
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with mods

whole bluff
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NZ is cool from the LoTR movies I've seen 😅 also tectoncis

stuck phoenix
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🥶

whole bluff
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Ye

dusky void
whole bluff
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I got double underpants and a big new jacket

tight plinth
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how cold is too cold?

golden phoenix
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NZ weather is weird. There was a 15 second torrential rain shower the other day.

whole bluff
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-4 C

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Around Stockholm

tight plinth
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too cold for me is 10c kek

plush gulch
tight plinth
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i cant imagine living in sub zero climate

dusky void
plush gulch
dusky void
whole bluff
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I wish there was never astrological/nautical night all year, and just 4h of nautical/astrological night all year, in Stockholm. Plus always between 10C and 25C. But our planet rolled different stats

golden phoenix
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I need to find semlor in auckland again soon.

whole bluff
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Semlor are nice

plush gulch
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@dusky void

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possible angle

whole bluff
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Not my biggest favourite, some people are crazy for them, but they're still really nice imo

golden phoenix
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I love 'em, and gotta take the reminders of home when I can get them

plush gulch
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is it between a sailor and a senior ?

whole bluff
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Are you Swedish? 😮

golden phoenix
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Yep, moved to NZ for this job a bit over a year ago

dusky void
whole bluff
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Damn, that's really cool

plush gulch
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they abduct people

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in NZ

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human trafficking

whole bluff
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I just realised working in Southern Stockholm that is a bit further than I like

golden phoenix
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I moved ~17200 kilometers for a job.

whole bluff
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It could have been a dream to do that, and I understand why you would do it. But I can't really say it would be advisable for me

dusky void
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how exactly does strngth of blood work does it make that leech lasts 5sec?

stuck phoenix
fierce dragon
plush gulch
golden phoenix
stuck phoenix
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So it didn't look that connected

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And your sentence was nonsensical

plush gulch
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yeah

plush gulch
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x)

plush gulch
golden phoenix
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I should stop thinking about tainted pact, it doesn't fit nicely into my build and is more hassle than it's worth

plush gulch
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is it reliable

stuck phoenix
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Haven't tried it

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I'd assume it's pretty reliable

plush gulch
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tainted pact won't stop thinking about you

golden phoenix
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I am pretty memorable

stuck phoenix
golden phoenix
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Yep

plush gulch
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so many build struggle with recovery though

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trying to sustain rf on a totem build and still have recovery

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I was struggling with my scorching rays

strong totem
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Where hierophant

stuck phoenix
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Whierephant

golden phoenix
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My build has like.. 90% reduced duration of poisons on me, 80% reduced duration of bleed, plus recoup galore and reduced DoT taken, I think I'll proooooobably be fine

stuck phoenix
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That feels oddly specific

plush gulch
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so tainted pact fulcrum blackflame hexblast of contradiction ignite is a strong contender for my phrecia build

strong totem
stuck phoenix
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Hierephant

plush gulch
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I will have to league start rf

strong totem
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Pls name not be taken

stuck phoenix
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Xdddd

stuck phoenix
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Take it now

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Swap name later

strong totem
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I cannot. I'm doing a 14hr work shift

plush gulch
stuck phoenix
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Alas

mighty turtle
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i have no idea what to start for phrecia

stuck phoenix
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How about

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Wait for patch notes

plush gulch
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I was going to tell this

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yeah we all wait for patch note

stuck phoenix
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🫸🫷

simple stag
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Happy Auckland Anniversary Day!

strong totem
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Not all. I want to make a bait video

stuck phoenix
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Wuh

golden phoenix
mighty turtle
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its also australia day

thick goblet
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copium patch notes

solid laurel
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If i slap on the golden charlatan, and then weapon switch after killing a few rares, do i keep the shrine buffs?

mighty turtle
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i wouldnt mind starting surfcaster, but i have a feeling that its getting nerfed

plush gulch
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we will wake up tomorrow to the patch note

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it's sure

dusky void
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if you get alot of life can level 1 forbidden rite loop itself with level 1 CWD

plush gulch
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damn you smart

stuck phoenix
livid quarry
stuck phoenix
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Unfortunate

strong totem
dusky void
stuck phoenix
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No. Yes.

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But if you want just two cwdt to loop you might not be able to pull it off in practice

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What's common is using something like minions dying and taking damage from that

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Wardloop moment

plush gulch
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forbidden rite doesn't work with automation

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Q?

stuck phoenix
plush gulch
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fuck

stuck phoenix
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How the fuck are you gonna achieve that

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Actually not even 100% sure that does work with 1t cooldown. I think it should.

plush gulch
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we want to be able to cast forbidden rite on repeat

dusky void
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idk the leech fix to make it 100% uptime sounds very hard maybe dropping tainted pact and going CI is better

plush gulch
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😔

modest depot
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its just so squishy all the time

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i guess it will feel better in phrecia with ghost node but i'm thinking with the phrecia modifiers + enraged bosses. you gonna have an awful time in campaign

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unless u playing AC slammer

whole bluff
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PoE is quite filled with one shots, cuz builds have options to get so much recovery, so tainted pact doesn't really fix everything. Plus it's likely you'll randomly die to it

thick goblet
whole bluff
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Weeping wounds seems nice with it though

solid laurel
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Idols don't work with the gull, golden charlatan, guardian shrine node etc right?

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(shrine effect etc)

modest depot
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it should work

whole bluff
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There was something in some recent patch notes, but idr

solid laurel
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Yeah, that's what I was told, just wanted to confirm because I was too lazy to check

modest depot
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oh

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it got nerfed this league lol

solid laurel
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would be funny if idols apply from a hindsight

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i was gonna equip the golden charlatan on a weapon switch for my str stack rf and just get stacked shrines at the start of juiced maps

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dream dead

whole bluff
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I got 2 hopes/copiums atm:

  1. We get patch notes for phrecia2 before Thursday
  2. They make any significant changes to phrecia ascendancies
solid laurel
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I just hope they do it tuesday at the latest, its a 3 week league and i dont have that much time to mess about 😄

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Its just an event, sure, but people will treat it like a fresh league lets be real

whole bluff
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I just wanna see something, hype up, and smash with it

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Short notice is good for me though, since I often get bored of ideas between reveal and release

proud gorge
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well, I've decided to just knuckle down and get my 28 challenges done. I don't care enough to go for 36, plus I don't like the helmet anyways, so 28 is a fine number. Once I've got that done, I don't need to worry about making money to spend on a character to beat challenges and bosses on

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so I can just reroll into stupid builds to my heart's content

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at this point, though, most of the remaining challenges I have planned are basically just some variation of "run 60 maps"

plush gulch
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@dusky voidwhat about scold bridle + bladefall of trathus and use the scavenger node insuficiant mana doesn't preven you from attacking, while using an attack skill instead

pulsar dune
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scolds+BFoT is dead

whole bluff
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It doesn't interact anymore? Would be weird if it put an actual phys dot on player

plush gulch
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so no way to be perma attacked by forbidde nrite

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our build is dead before it lived

whole bluff
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Weeping wounds if you solve it

plush gulch
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nah that's a dot

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?

whole bluff
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Yeah, for using tainted pact

plush gulch
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i mean we want a hit that can proc the life mod 15% dmg leeched as life

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dmg taken*

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we couldnt find any solution

whole bluff
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I mean if you solve tainted pact, weeping wounds would be payoff

strong totem
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You can kitavas thirst

dark sequoia
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Overkill leech + Squirming Terror?

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Need FF though

plush gulch
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both doesn't work for our idea sadly

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it's good ideas though

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i was thinking hexblast ignite

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fulcrum

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so we would explode the worm

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lol

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and kitava not sure we spend that much

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sincen we just proc the ignite and run around

dark sequoia
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worms dont have much hp, right?

plush gulch
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no

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but it doesnt matter if im walking with a 100 000 ignite on me the worm wont even have time to get "hit" the ignite would proliferate

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instantly and they would explode

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sad life for the worm

dark sequoia
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What is the highest ignite damage skill? Eviscerate?

plush gulch
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i say explode but burn is more accurate

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no idea

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burning arrow vigor ? crushing fist ?

dark sequoia
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Flameblast Fulcrum might be fun

plush gulch
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hexblast of contradiction

dark sequoia
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Shame you can't get both battlemage and fulcrum.
Cause then you could do energy blade.

whole bluff
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Probably is eviscerate indeed, but I'd rather do flameblast yeah

dark sequoia
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Jiquani's with Hexblast of Contradiction

tall belfry
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Wen patch notes

normal hedge
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tomorrow

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trust

dark sequoia
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I kinda want to try runegraft of blasphemy + anathema + puppeteer just for the lols

But there is no actual damage synergy; you just have every level 1 curse proliferating through packs

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You'd be able to use doedre's scorn if you had things to kill next to a boss, I guess.

normal hedge
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your pc prolly dies if you kill a white monster in blight

normal hedge
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it has hexbloom

dark sequoia
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Combined with hex master the curses will be really weak but never disappear.
But you'll be maxed out on doedre's scorn damage, I guess.

strong totem
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Curious if hexbloom works with ylfeban's trickery

golden moat
dark sequoia
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The global hexbloom should, yeah.
I don't know if the transferred curse still ignores hex limit though.

plush gulch
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i feel dumb getting excited for an event that will barely last one month

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ngl

dark sequoia
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Foulborn Ylfeban's Trickery with a retaliation skill?

strong totem
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Such a silly foulborn mod for helm

dark sequoia
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200% spell damage applies to retaliation attacks

strong totem
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Need indigon scav for it

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Gggpls

dark sequoia
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I hope fulcrum and tainted pact and shavs stay on scav.

#

Indigon is such a PoE item

strong totem
#

They could easily double scav options for fun

dark sequoia
#

Imagine if each scav was like a timeless jewel and had different passives

#

That would suck for making builds

strong totem
#

Someone suggested foulborn mods for scav to be added

dark sequoia
#

Indigon on a passive would be insane

#

And also sounds really fun

strong totem
#

Imagine each class starting with a chase unique passive at the beach

#

Pst me for more great league ideas

dark sequoia
#

Let's just make every unique trash so no one wants to use them

strong totem
#

Uniques need to be able to be extracted and placed on rares

soft perch
#

indigon on scav would be levels of busted never seen before

fickle glen
strong totem
#

From the phrecia page "this event manifests the wildest ideas of our design team into reality."

fickle glen
#

It’s how they advertise

hard cliff
strong totem
#

Bonus for you: totems we can carry

hard cliff
#

Just make it stupid slow

#

so you have to play melee caster or invest in proj speed

strong totem
dusky void
#

@plush gulch wait when did i do this??? i cant remeber making a build with that much dps??? its uber pinnacle dps for a fulcrum build thats solid only sustain is not insane

plush gulch
#

looks insane

#

what is this tankiness

dusky void
#

thats with frost shield but no guard skill

hard cliff
#

25% chance to Ignite enemies

#

We can lose that

#

it's ok

#

jeez so much more you can do with this thing than ignite

#

I just wanna walk up to a pack of enemies and cast fireball then they blow the fuck up

#

I don't wanna ignite

strong totem
#

I'll never forget when they redesigned burning arrow and said "starting skills should be simple". From then on I knew fireball was doomed by their dumb contradiction in a complex game

hard cliff
limpid prairie
hard cliff
#

I mean people play it

#

I dunno if it's great but it's there

stuck phoenix
#

Or fireball of vigour

finite quail
#

a transfig gem for fireball that makes it fork multiple times

dark sequoia
#

Fireball with built-in Avatar of Fire that stacks with Avatar of Fire for 100% convert

finite quail
#

no

dark sequoia
#

But that's just numbers so that's boring

#

Slow moving fireball that explodes on pierce and also makes a big explosion on the end of flight

dusky void
strong totem
dark sequoia
#

Fireball that teleports you to it when it explodes

strong totem
#

Flickering fireball

plush gulch
#

im curious

#

idk myself

dark sequoia
#

Fireball that leaves burning ground like the projectile chimerals use?

plush gulch
#

at leastr i think you can clear the whole game you are so tanky

strong totem
#

Fireball of totem

tall belfry
#

Fireball that has +200% proj speed so it feels like a sniper rifle

plush gulch
#

shaper ball of clustering

strong totem
tall belfry
#

Had being the operative word

strong totem
#

It got nuked, but it did exist

stoic horizon
#

guys what if fireball could split into smaller fireballs in 3 directions? Scuffcan

strong totem
#

It was negative proj speed fireball

tight plinth
#

so like a fork

dusky void
stoic horizon
tall belfry
#

Fireball that you manifest in hand as a melee strike

plush gulch
tall belfry
#

Oh wait that's just infernal blow again

plush gulch
#

it looks very cool

hard cliff
#

You can do that now

strong totem
#

I don't like fireball poe2 or infusions.

hard cliff
#

their is a foulborne ID helmet that's really good

stuck phoenix
stoic horizon
#

and also foulborn doedre's is great

plush gulch
tall belfry
#

FIREBALL THAT FALLS FROM THE SKY! SURELY THATS NEVER BEEN DONE

stoic horizon
plush gulch
stoic horizon
#
  • its a witch so need less cast speed
strong totem
plush gulch
#

@stoic horizoncan you lower the cd even more ?

#

isn't it close to a limit

#

of some kind

strong totem
plush gulch
#

like server tic or somethng

#

if it's fine then im happy

tall belfry
#

Firestorm gotta hold the record for most buffs in a row to a skill

dusky void
hexed mountain
#

yeah , isnt harbinger basically the best impending doom asc altogether?

stoic horizon
plush gulch
#

I kinda want to do this now

tall belfry
#

That does sound fun

plush gulch
#

espcially when other harbinger node are quite cool

stoic horizon
#

also you can steal occultist ff's

hexed mountain
#

shaco harbinger sounds nuts

tall belfry
#

Harby is cool in general

plush gulch
#

doedre should be cheap

hexed mountain
#

its not hard to farm with the tree anyway

plush gulch
#

it could have been okay with bog shaman

#

i thought earlier you would tell me to do life stacking

#

poison

#

butgoing harbinger is more hipster

#

way better

soft perch
#

i feel like harb impending doom is just worse occultist

#

sure its fine but

plush gulch
#

maybe i'll be able to get perma discipline

strong totem
#

No one talks about the harb node that isn't in the league photo

plush gulch
#

so not sure about that

#

100% increased aoe

soft perch
#

well yea

plush gulch
#

being able to split es life

#

get two health pool

#

even three

#

yeah no

strong totem
#

It's just funny that's not in the harb photo

plush gulch
#

which one ???

strong totem
#

It's the most interesting node

plush gulch
#

im annoyed u dont explain

#

xD

strong totem
#

Arcane soul

plush gulch
#

yeah this is the one I showed

#

just then

#

it looks so good

#

maybe you can even do a triple life bar

#

dmg taken as es life and mana

#

all together

#

🧐

hexed mountain
#

even on a very normal build this node is a lot of ES ngl

#

like 5000 life 1000 mana hybrid build that's 700 flat ES

strong totem
#

I haven't found a great way to scale mana, life, and es at the same time

#

Unless you want to use glimpse of chaos

plush gulch
#

yeah letg's ignore mana it's too annoying

modern zinc
#

every time I'm playing RF I want to play necro
every time I'm playing necro I want to play RF

#

someone please bash me in the head

plush gulch
#

because you want reservation

#

anyway

#

also 30% dmg to life maybe we can go petrified blood

#

we are half life but with spelldmg as leech

#

petrified blood

hard cliff
#

Would love to see a way to play trade offline next league so we don't have to deal with ping issues but can still trade with other players

plush gulch
#

and pain atunement

strong totem
#

I had a really nice mana/life ring I sold

plush gulch
#

who wants to play rf

hard cliff
#

I wanna play rf if it was strong

#

:/

modern zinc
#

no damage

#

no tankyness either

bright viper
#

Correct

strong totem
#

I think about RF architect sometimes

#

+20k life and es

stuck phoenix
strong totem
stuck phoenix
#

Uh

plush gulch
#

so how do impending doom works when you cast a curse it remove one so it does one cast of doomblast ?

stuck phoenix
#

At that point you've just got an iceball

strong totem
#

Well yeah

stuck phoenix
#

Fireball of wintry blast still has to be fire damage

strong totem
#

But it's blue flame

stuck phoenix
#

That's hotter

strong totem
#

I wish you designed fireball in poe2

stuck phoenix
#

Lol

strong totem
#

Blue flame bracers are so dumb

stuck phoenix
#

Fireball of wintry blast genuinely feels like it would be the contradictory cold ailment scaling

#

Maybe also boost from freeze

#

Possibly also with the silly, fire damage can chill/freeze but eh

#

Don't like that

tight plinth
#

lightning and cold needs a damaging ailment

strong totem
#

You're making me actually think about this

stuck phoenix
#

Xd

strong totem
#

Frostblink of wintry blast gained damage if target is chilled

#

So fireball could have the same?

stuck phoenix
#

Yes

strong totem
#

That works

delicate ether
#

where is the patch notesssssssssss

stuck phoenix
#

In the future

tight plinth
#

apparently its holidays in nz

#

so probably not today

finite quail
hard cliff
#

f/f all hits can poison gonna be expensive af

dusky void
hard cliff
#

I dunno

#

Just vibes

surreal musk
fickle glen
dusky void
limpid prairie
hard cliff
#

yeah this looks like it'd get anihilated by chaos damage

plush gulch
#

@dusky voiddude i have many ideas coward legacy = im considered as low life. Despair balance terror make me immune to curse and slow. so I can keep my full health pool

dusky void
hard cliff
#

ohhhh fuggg

fickle glen
# stoic horizon no

There is a stats that I’ve seen that says “reduce damage of cold ailment”

hard cliff
#

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fickle glen
stoic horizon
limpid prairie
#

?

hard cliff
tight plinth
plush gulch
fickle glen
tight plinth
#

dot =/= ailment

dusky void
#

and you can reserve flesh and stone on youre life

plush gulch
#

so i'll do it but reserve my life

snow olive
#

4 days left and no notes

#

we going in blind

fickle glen
tight plinth
#

does "gain flask charge on critical strike" have a cooldown?

fickle glen
dusky void
plush gulch
#

ZAO

#

where patch

#

go to work

#

:p

#

the patch waiting disease gonna kill us dead

lucid gale
#

Mostly, yeah. I got my copy of the Sju Sorters Kakor cookbook posted down for the holidays so now the options now are virtually endless.

thick goblet
stuck phoenix
#

Lol

#

A classic

#

Also, do ping me if you want me to read

tight plinth
#

0.1 isnt so bad

stuck phoenix
#

I just happened to hop on

delicate ether
#

prob not patch today, holiday in new zeland

stuck phoenix
#

Otherwise I wouldn't have seen

dusky void
thick goblet
plush gulch
tight plinth
#

1 second wouldve been not worth getting

dusky void
lucid gale
plush gulch
#

you were here doing ignite eviscerate, tainted pact

dusky void
hard cliff
#

Mooooooooooooooooo cow says you'll suck at the game no matter what you play 🐮

dusky void
plush gulch
fickle glen
dusky void
hard cliff
plush gulch
#

are u cheating

dusky void
#

and commanders 50% phys taken as fire is just crazy for phys max hit

fickle glen
finite quail
plush gulch
#

@dusky voidi have a big issue, how do I even regen life

finite quail
plush gulch
#

to deal with RF and not dying

finite quail
#

life regeneration

#

and fire res

plush gulch
#

yes

#

I know there is a shield that let me leech chaos dmg but idk if it's life

#

but it means no block, ever

#

I guess i can go evasion

modern zinc
#

I wish atlas were char-specific

timid scroll
#

anyone remembers how much idols with maps have chance to become one tier higher costed at leaguestart?

plush gulch
#

no way

modern zinc
#

I meant the point distribution

plush gulch
#

🤔

plush gulch
#

oh

modern zinc
#

have chars be able to spec into different things

timid scroll
finite quail
plush gulch
finite quail
#

they were very common iirc

plush gulch
#

me I don't care

modern zinc
#

I'm not mentally stable

dusky void
# plush gulch yes

use end charges and the mod regen % of life per end charge on tree boots and graft brink of death is sick for 4% life regen than some armour and ES for divine shield to stay tanky in shotgun situations

modern zinc
#

IF u wanna know the truth, I export everything to trade league and start ssf again at every new char

#

which is a pain because there's no way to soft reset the trade league stuff

brazen vector
dreamy charm
#

i did that once and regret it so bad i could not for the life of get a purtrid temple map in ssf... before i migrated all to trade i had full atlas completion

plush gulch
#

me as I said I don't care either way

#

for atlas

brazen vector
#

Id prefer having 2 base atlas trees and 1 char specific tree

#

Or make it 2/2 and lock the 4th behind all ubers

#

"But alesia, 99% of players cant beat ubers"

Yea well, uhm, thats their problem

plush gulch
#

@dusky voidI think I lowkey want to go evasion route rather than armour

#

ghost reaver

#

more leech

#

🤔

#

phys damage don't exist if you tell him it's racist to hit you

#

im thinking going vaal grace perma

#

I mean trying to make it perma

#

for +15% evade attack

dusky void
#

than im gone i HATE avoidance i want the satisfaction of standing in 100 enemies go afk to make a coffe coming back and blast them away

plush gulch
#

i do hate it aswell

#

but Im looking for a way to use harvinger more duration of buff node

#

and graft

#

for a vaal aura

#

there is no vaal determination

dusky void
#

vaal haste?

plush gulch
#

i don't see the point of more speed with impending doom

#

because of the cooldown

#

feel like im not getting that much out of it

#

nothing actually

plush gulch
#

but vaal grace seems good

#

@dusky voidbtw the build will use temp chain

#

blasphemy

#

so evasion may be ok

#

i'll see, I have time yet

golden phoenix
lucid gale
unique crown
thick goblet
#

bro might be chris wilson

brazen vector
lucid gale
#

Patch note delivery men:

strong totem
#

Christ Wilson descends from heaven with a message from God: "Continued to incrementally improve the sound, art, effects and environment."

strong totem
graceful anvil
#

What's a common div/hr to average in the first week of a league?

gritty epoch
#

i'd say 5+

stray sedge
#

🤨 kind of a loaded question, so many people play the game differently

lucid gale
#

First week? Barely in maps, so entirely raw drops 😄

#

I've transcended ambition, playing for the experience 🧘‍♂️

potent bramble
# graceful anvil What's a common div/hr to average in the first week of a league?

I think the only way to come up with an even remotely reasonable answer to that would be if you can narrow your question a bit. Like if you're going by a true mathematical average, you'd have to include all the players who load in once during the week, decide they don't care for XYZ mechanic, and quit. Then there's all the players who are going to join and level to 50 for the mystery box (assuming I'm remembering that correctly), then they quit. On the other end of the spectrum, you have players like Empy's group who will have a total team of 8+ people, where a full 6-man team is running super-juiced content while the others are handling sales, organizing, possibly even crafting, etc. So that group has crazy high profits compared to the 'normal' player.

surreal musk
#

essaying

potent bramble
#

It's just too broad to be able to give an answer that's backed by any sort of data

modern zinc
#

I agree with spikey

night bone
#

no no no, the answer to every math question is 17

elfin shale
#

what fucking attack qualifies for this

#

Oh huh

#

Did not know that

crystal talon
#

Yeer

#

bow/wand attacks can be used with traps

whole bluff
#

I should play a good build in phrecia, so I can leave the uber challenges for phrecia

hard cliff
strong totem
#

You'll need crit immunity. Certainly every map will roll a random crit mod

hard cliff
#

I won't though

whole bluff
#

oh, I forgot phrecia has extra mods everywhere

hard cliff
#

uber enrage

whole bluff
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

strong totem
#

And uniques enrage

#

And bonus mechanics for some pinnacles, like doubled gates in maven rotating in opposite directions

whole bluff
#

they added all the gauntlet things?

strong totem
#

Who knows

whole bluff
#

ah, hmm

stuck phoenix
#

I have all notifs off for this server

#

And most public servers too

#

Mainly only have them on for dms

crimson hearth
#

anyone know good guide for iceshot(any version) deadeye the one i was using was iceshot mines

tight plinth
#

brother youve switched builds like 5x in 3 days kek

crimson hearth
#

im trying them allUHM

#

but too lazy to do campaign again so il stick with iceshot

fickle glen
#

Am I supposed to do something with these flower petals? I just cleared the map I am in

empty bronze
#

do you think GGG will change behemoth to, you can't deal damage with spells

fickle glen
stray sedge
night bone
empty bronze
stray sedge
#

some give you soul eater stacks based on the number of nearby enemies, some increase or reduce item quant/rarity to those monsters

#

theres another cool one that pairs with those where the monsters affected by the petal thing will respawn

fickle glen
surreal musk
stray sedge
empty bronze
stray sedge
#

Next time youre in an originator map, you can hover over the button at the start to see what it does

night bone
# empty bronze that feels even less interesting

to retain the identity, you can't be allowed to use auras for sure, but allowing other spells with utility like beserk and flame dash seems more fair, just "you can't deal damage" opens it up to abuse imo

surreal musk
#

theyd get infinite dmg% from having the same armour:dmg% scaling as 2 replica dreamfeathers equipped, insane flat armour from armour>mana, and their choice of getting insane flat dmg from any mana scaling spell or piece of gear

empty bronze
#

spells wouldn't be able to do damage

stray sedge
surreal musk
#

i meant skill

crimson hearth
#

i js realised iceshot has 0 good guides that dont include mines

surreal musk
#

kboc str stack would be broken

maiden tusk
#

Question. What happens to your character after Phrecia ends? Can you still play it or is it deleted?

stoic horizon
tight plinth
#

it goes to standard but it gets normal passive tree and ascendancy

crimson hearth
tight plinth
#

the passive points are refunded

stoic horizon
maiden tusk
#

Ohhh okay.

#

Thanks!!

stuck phoenix
fickle glen
crimson hearth
#

well what do i play for deadeye then

maiden tusk
#

It would be cool if could keep playing the ascendancy in standard

stoic horizon
stuck phoenix
#

not regular passives

crimson hearth
stoic horizon
crimson hearth
#

oh

#

do you have a good guide? im sick of the bait

empty bronze
#

is this for phrecia or normal?

stoic horizon
#

idk if fub updated his guide for current league

crimson hearth
crimson hearth
fickle glen
#

2nd passive preset to go with my secondary weapon would be nice

empty bronze
#

i can give you a janky but fun build

hexed mountain
#

i hope for 3.28 after phrecia ascendancies are balanced we get to use them in normal leagues too. Just give us 6 ascendancies per class its ok :^)

stoic horizon
#

imo ice shot mines would be much better than la but i suppose you don't want mines

empty bronze
fickle glen
empty bronze
#

no

#

that's everything else dying

merry forge
#

dafuk is that

hexed mountain
#

looks like returning proj EoW

empty bronze
foggy jasper
merry forge
#

sheet

empty bronze
#

can't remember the exact numbers

stoic horizon
#

at least 3

foggy jasper
hexed mountain
#

i never even checked are trans EoW versions any good ? or its only the normal one always?

empty bronze
#

neither

#

arcanist brand

foggy jasper
#

o

fickle glen
hexed mountain
#

you arcanist brand to enable returning proj

stoic horizon
#

thats the neat part

empty bronze
#

or you use a different skill

#

you can use falling zombies apparently

#

they avoid the less damage multipliers apparently

#

but it's not as cool looking

stoic horizon
#

they are a minion technically

#

so makes sense

empty bronze
#

also it's got crazy high mana costs

hexed mountain
#

arca brand zombies are sabo only no?

#

you get double damage with it

empty bronze
#

you get like 8 spell triggers from one brand recall

#

and then that's multiplied by how many brands you have

plush gulch
#
empty bronze
#

ok so yeah its like 48 casts

plush gulch
#

😮 how did you even get this much dmg with impending doom

#

crazy

merry forge
#

i wonder what crazy stuff will be good in phrecia, cant even remember anything outside of shrines lightning strike

stoic horizon
#

ppl cooking a lot with shaman

empty bronze
hexed mountain
hard cliff
#

that one rare ring holding on for dear life

merry forge
#

hopefully we get patch notes with rebalance soon

plush gulch
stoic horizon
#

ok well depending on your timezone ig

merry forge
#

oh yea

#

anytime before Wednesday and im happy haha

fickle glen
#

Me packing to leave poe because I keep getting stuck in loading screen

merry forge
#

need some time to change my mind on a build 5 times over

empty bronze
#

with triggerbots doubling stuff, automation triggers brand recall twice, so brand recalls activate (not a trigger sadly) each arcanist brand twice, which then trigger 4 of the linked spell

#

so unless I forgot a multiplication somewhere its 4 * number of brands

#

and you sustain the mana cost by using eldrich battery

#

and spell es leech

#

also instant leech/life gain on hit make you really tanky as long as you don't get one shot

strong totem
#

I have a secret build no one knows about

merry forge
#

i just want something that doesnt die on a bad rng roll haha

gritty epoch
#

patch notes when

merry forge
#

maybe its time for a slammer

hard cliff
#

I wanna play a slammer freed from the curse of Fist of War Support

#

but I don't know how

tight plinth
#

i need 11aps on ancestral commander, ideas? exaltThink

split pagoda
foggy jasper
split pagoda
#

Earthshatter

hard cliff
#

Very interesting

#

Weapon swap tech 😩

crimson hearth
#

guide but this is leveling pob

thick goblet
#

sure, it's fine
but dont you already have a levelled deadeye

worldly bridge
#

hey when i migrate ssf characters after finishing a practice run, what am i supposed to do about the remove only tabs?

thick goblet
#

wdym, you just ignore them

worldly bridge
#

oh 😭

#

knowing theyre hidden bothers me but its so much work to empty them

crimson hearth
crimson hearth