1┃general

[tranquil sedge]

i haven't even spoken to you for a while but you still seem to care about what im saying

sir i'm not playing some game of hard-to-get here, i'm not into you thanks

please feel free to use the block feature

[crisp plinth]

Does Warframe still do the weird you have to wait X days when crafting shit

[shrewd rock]

How did u anger him lol

[old anvil]

I'm not taking it personally bro chill out

[tranquil sedge]

Srev your input to this chat is nothing and almost like an explode that is always happening but doesn't have to be looked at again

[shrewd rock]

Ya thats their monetization as a f2p game

[steady elk]

i logged in warframe for the last time in november after i left the game for over 5 years in 2020. it doesn't scratch my itch anymore. i tried getting back into it but the game's so much different now

[old anvil]

Mans a certified redditor

[lethal zenith]

Warframe is fun if you’re an enterprising Andy

[split maple]

vertz your issue is you came into chat spewing bullshit and you get bothered in rly weird way when people point that out

[crisp plinth]

liked the game years ago but that annoyed me enough to not bother

[split maple]

thats why its entertaining

stop doing that and folks wont bother you

[shrewd rock]

Yeah i mean they make money off fomo

I actually prefer it

[worldly bridge]

Yo does anyone have a wander ranger levelling guide

[shrewd rock]

Over shit like destiny

[worldly bridge]

Or do i just go bows

Until maps

[fickle glen]

That game is trash

[shrewd rock]

Where they charge u $20 for each piece of content

[crisp plinth]

I'm a certified fomo miser and just fuck off

[lethal zenith]

Just say you don’t know how to make money over there

[fickle glen]

I played the tutorial and stopped right there where everyone should

[crisp plinth]

Core loop is insanely fun in WF

[spare ore]

fubgoon has a guide on yt

[shrewd rock]

Its honestly in a better state than poe1 rn given how much GGG doesnt give a shit

[crisp plinth]

The rest is sadly meh

[old anvil]

I'm a certified life Liver this other guy is a cerited (p)redditor

[shrewd rock]

Ggg basically only cares about poe2 rn

[tranquil sedge]

can scroll up and see
he tried to make a point, didn't have any coherent arguments to make and at some point he decided to blame tencent for the state of the game even tho they bought them years ago

idk it started out funny and now its just sad

[worldly bridge]

Interesting, ive only heard good things about it

[shrewd rock]

And poe1 is supported by like 3 interns lmao

[tranquil sedge]

is andy here referring to casual or what

[fickle glen]

Worst controls and mechanics ever

[barren river]

i'm an actual redditor

[worldly bridge]

CONTROLS? Warfram is so smooth

Youre crazy habibi

[tranquil sedge]

this made me laugh

[steady elk]

it's a good game but i really dislike the glaze people give it

hate toxic positivity

[shrewd rock]

Yeah it has its own problems. Design wise i think thereve backed themselves into a corner

[lethal zenith]

Lmao people say the same about ggg and PoE

[tranquil sedge]

this happens with a lotta games

[crisp plinth]

And they did so well with making breach worse

[tranquil sedge]

including last epoch, poe2, runescape 3, and plenty more

[shrewd rock]

But i find it enjoyable

[steady elk]

well it's a lot more for warframe

[lethal zenith]

They both have pretty good monetization policies

[steady elk]

i never see anything overtly positive being said here for example

[tranquil sedge]

we're just dooming over 3.27 man but when 3.26 was going on it was a lot more positive

[old anvil]

Poe 1 is cancer to Poe 2 and my mum is currently dying from cancer so I don't use the word litely

[tranquil sedge]

if 3.28 turns it around then again we'll see more positive shit here

[steady elk]

i hope so

[tranquil sedge]

this just normal gamer behaviour

[shrewd rock]

I'm honewtly doubtful lmao

[tranquil sedge]

im only hopeful because of how easy it would be to make a good 3.28 man

[steady elk]

stash tab done btw

[shrewd rock]

I would've rather they spent the dev time to make 3.28 better

[tranquil sedge]

undo the nerfs from 3.27 and it makes 3.28 great

[shrewd rock]

Instead of wasting dev time on phrecia

[worldly bridge]

Phrecia takes 1% of their power

[tranquil sedge]

agreed but what can we do

[lethal zenith]

Make Ground Loot Great Again

[spare ore]

more like poo2 is cancer to poe1

[barren river]

EWW I CAN FEEL YOUR STENCH THROUGH MY SCREEN

[worldly bridge]

Its not a big tax be honest

[visual stream]

Just deleted poe2 everything will go back to normal

[tranquil sedge]

thats also how much it would take to undo some of the nerfs in 3.27 brother

[visual stream]

[thick goblet]

to give ggg the benefit of the doubt they did mention starting 3.28 they will have at least a partial permanent poe1 team again

[shrewd rock]

Not sure .. i think its a decent amount of effrot that was divested

[old anvil]

I'm sorry I have to exit myself

[tranquil sedge]

the map effect nerf, the map mod nerf, the scarab nerf

undoing them wouldn't take that much effort either

[worldly bridge]

Yall can believe what you want

[tranquil sedge]

i dont think phrecia is gonna take a huge amount of effort or anything

and i think its gonna be fun

[visual stream]

They all so said poe2 development wouldnt effect poe1 but hey

[tranquil sedge]

but still its not nice to see the entire lack of effort 3.27 was getting

[old anvil]

I love fun

[spare ore]

amen

[barren river]

you stink

[old anvil]

Why?

[visual stream]

Reditor hate ppl having fun ofcouse

[spare ore]

take shower

[crisp plinth]

Keep the wallets closed

[old anvil]

I took a shower 7 fucking hours ago

[barren river]

it's not ok to not shower for 3 weeks

[old anvil]

You want me to take a shower again

Bro your talking to yourself

[spare ore]

that's what they all say

[tranquil sedge]

if someone was speaking to me in real life the way you are right now

i would be concerned that they were having a stroke and needed to go to a hospital

maybe you should take a few breaths and relax

[old anvil]

Bro only in Poe chat you could take a shower and not have took a shower

[tranquil sedge]

either that or they invented superweed idk

[fickle glen]

Some players on console chat were saying this game is getting sold to china or something like that, is this true?

[crisp plinth]

Has been sold ages ago

[tranquil sedge]

tencent has owned the entirety of ggg since 2023 or something lol

[old anvil]

I can guarantee I'm the most showered person in this chat by at least top 0.1%

[barren river]

superweed is too weak

he's on fent

[tranquil sedge]

and the chinese version of poe is separate to the rest-of-the-world version

[barren river]

tbf, the last time when I showered was 10 days ago

[tranquil sedge]

so dw :p

[old anvil]

When I said the word Chinese you called me racist why is it ok you can say it now?

Diabolical chat moments fr

Get a grip

[fickle glen]

How else do I say Chinese

[lethal zenith]

They don’t get freaky Atziri???

[tranquil sedge]

you can say it lol, its fine

[haughty ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/soyonagasaki-gif-12027096825525371874

[barren river]

🫃

[steady elk]

bomboclaat

[spare ore]

bombaclart

[barren river]

bomboclat

[old anvil]

You can only say the word Chinese if you are accepted by @tranquil sedge

[soft perch]

what the fuck happened in here

[barren river]

idiot in chat

[old anvil]

He's not an idiot you are for saying he is

[fickle glen]

That dude hates me

[soft perch]

oh its another chemist wannabe

[barren river]

I also hate you

[fickle glen]

See?

[zinc stump]

Possible chemist alt

[old anvil]

We move

We live

[barren river]

I am the same one

[old anvil]

We have fun

[ocean field]

https://tenor.com/view/we-live-we-love-we-lie-gif-8158485087348221680

[haughty ermine]

we live, we love

[steady elk]

dr horse is it corpus

[visual stream]

Average poe player chat when league already dead

[old anvil]

I'm only still here because I was hurt by the guy that made me seem racist

It turns out if you say the word China you are racist

[barren river]

me or srev?

[old anvil]

It makes me think wtf does racist exactly mean

[fickle glen]

Tsk fk your feelings

[old anvil]

Srev that guy is weird

So am i

But also not weird in his sense

[barren river]

i'm also weird

[old anvil]

His sense being racist things

[barren river]

also, go back to daddy jonathan

[old anvil]

Bro why claim racism against a crafting system a Poe the whole of poe and you claim racism

Like bru delete yourself

[soft perch]

shitty ragebait

[barren river]

i am pretty sure that you secretly love jonathan

[old anvil]

I think he got banned I am sorry for that

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if player corpse can be consumed by gravity well?

[old anvil]

I also got banned I do not wish people talking about you without response

[barren river]

it's ok, we accept your kinks

[old anvil]

Well your kink and his is being racist

I hate to say it but its true

Sort that out

Racism is outdated

[spare ore]

❓

[old anvil]

I don't accept racism

Hope you don't have a guild I don't want to imagine what it's called

[stoic horizon]

tf is happening here

[haughty ermine]

will this ever end

mods are asleep i guess

[barren river]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-over-gif-5721510543785152669

[spare ore]

my guilds dead

[barren river]

mine is also ded

[old anvil]

But you are racist

[fickle glen]

What do guilds even do in this game?

[old anvil]

When I say racist I mean what you imply it means

So when Devs wake up I hope they band all your racist asses and idc if I'm banned too

[haughty ermine]

let you steal from them

[visual stream]

Free guild stash tho

[spare ore]

make friends an talk to people ig? (also stealing yes)

[visual stream]

My current guild have 27 stash

But all of them already quit the game

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[tranquil sedge]

in theory it can let u collaborate with other people, share currencies and gear and maps, collectively progress as a group

[haughty ermine]

boring

[tranquil sedge]

but in reality unless u trust the people ur in a guild with, which is hard to do, that's not happening

[old anvil]

Srev is back from the ban guys be weary of racism

[tranquil sedge]

most people aren't really getting much benefit out of being in a guild, if they are in one

[gentle chasm]

[visual stream]

Get the whole guild ban if 1 member in it rmt as well

[tranquil sedge]

lol rly

[visual stream]

Yah

[stoic horizon]

yup

[tranquil sedge]

so even less reason to be in a guild then lmao

[fickle glen]

Yeah that makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

in a public* random guild

[barren river]

you get a cool tag tho

[tight plinth]

thats actually a thing

[fickle glen]

Most games with guilds are usually related to PvP

[old anvil]

Bro just don't be "racist" it's not hard you just have to have integrity and a fucking soul

[barren river]

my guild tag is O__O

[visual stream]

Some rmt just put currency in guild stash also

The moment u toucht that

[gentle chasm]

Why are you talking to yourself

[visual stream]

Bye bue

[dusky urchin]

like g

[stoic horizon]

i cant believe bro is still at it even after a mod shown up

[tranquil sedge]

if its just you and some friends or people u trust though then u can have fun with it

like having a guild stash and storage does open some collaborative fun

[old anvil]

I was referencing Syven

[tranquil sedge]

it does cost points to buy guild hideout, stash etc

[old anvil]

*srev

[tranquil sedge]

so depends how much u value having the persistent shared storage

[fickle glen]

Something I’ll consider doing with my friends

[tranquil sedge]

mm

[tight plinth]

my guild is pretty good, ive no complains

[barren river]

mine is also good

[stoic horizon]

and i have no guild

[tight plinth]

our issue is were not very noob friendly, most of us are done with the league by week 3-4

[tranquil sedge]

ive been in the same guild like 2 or 3 times in the past and i keep getting kicked for inactivity i dont bother anymore

[old anvil]

Bro your kicked for racism

Fuck off you racist cunt

[spare ore]

mines 3pac

[proper rampart]

first person poe purple tree

[old anvil]

I would Poe players do not accept racism

[barren river]

@gentle chasm

[old anvil]

*hope

[tranquil sedge]

what game is this

[old anvil]

Nah seriously though why is racism accept in Poe it's messed up

[gentle chasm]

Its time to take a break

[tight plinth]

o7

[visual stream]

Is this the feeling talking to karen in the west ?

[barren river]

y tho?

vertz insulted me and srev and falsely called us racist

[tight plinth]

i dont think he was talking to you

[barren river]

jesus that guy wormed in my dms

[stoic horizon]

[fickle glen]

Action rpg games have the coolest environment

[haughty ermine]

dumb

[tight plinth]

i have a build and a strat locked id, where my league

[crisp plinth]

New league when

[haughty ermine]

is it too early to start

[stoic horizon]

yes too many bugs now

[shadow socket]

speaking of that

[stoic horizon]

[haughty ermine]

ok thx

[spare ore]

lmao

[heady cliff]

patch notes: are we a joke to you?

[proper rampart]

first person mod for poe

[soft perch]

WHERE ASCENDANCY CHANGES

[crisp plinth]

I ate them

[soft perch]

NOOOO

[tranquil sedge]

i thought that was a joke lol

[soft perch]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-dog-dog-bee-dogs-doggy-dance-goobers-gif-23185380

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-greed-gif-14648819629667917844

[lucid gale]

[proper rampart]

it was

[visual stream]

Hmm fp in poe isnt that just throwing flash grenade into player face every second

[lucid gale]

Time for the best part of the map challenges:

[visual stream]

This one is the main reason i always having srs leveling when league start

[spare ore]

whakakawhakakawairawhakaka

[visual stream]

[lucid gale]

Ooh, dropped a new 3.27 unique:

[tranquil sedge]

maybe for some future you guys should tease something randomly like this outta the blue in discord lol
oh look hey this is a fun wand

[tight plinth]

porgers

[visual stream]

3.28 gonna making mods on whaku boss aviable on rare

[tight plinth]

i wonder if some changes are concrete way before launch thats its teasable.

or like everything has a pin on them

[spare ore]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-sad-markiplier-lol-meme-gif-25974730

[tranquil sedge]

i mean they have teasers for like a week or two leading up to a league launch

[visual stream]

Or maybe a new strong box only spawn that boss out

U know just to fck with us

[tranquil sedge]

and you kinda do have to finalize stuff in advance otherwise ur never gonna finish development hell lol

[visual stream]

[haughty ermine]

never going to happen

[steady elk]

Can I get some deets about the league packs on 3.28

[haughty ermine]

can’t even get ascendancy changes until just before launch

let the guy play the game

[tranquil sedge]

a man can dream

[haughty ermine]

you shouldn’t!

[spare ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940312476749275156/1219094364631076985/togif.gif

[steady elk]

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-eat-a-bun-bun-bun-bun-bleach-bun-bun-bleach-shut-up-gif-9400973935901347167

[twin violet]

patch notes for event when?

[stoic horizon]

yes

[twin violet]

damn

[soft perch]

gonna be funny when people log in rf in phrecia

and every other map has less recovery or -max

[stoic horizon]

gonna be funny when they try to follow what pohx is doing and fail

[twin violet]

how expensive was a fishing rod last event?

[heady cliff]

unscaled less recovery or -max is not a brick mods for RF

well, lategame RF

both at once is probably a brick, but that would be quite rare, i'd asssume

[tight plinth]

i didnt think about the random ass mods 😭

[heady cliff]

axiom - RF could survive on 75% res

theory - 90% res RF could survive 60% less recovery or -10% res

second is obvious, 80% > 75%

first is 10% damage taken / 0.4 = 25% damage taken = 75% res, the same

theory proven

[pulsar dune]

If the plan is the bog witch lifestack setup, RF will get a fair bit harder to sustain tbf

[tight plinth]

has anyone seen anybody do something cool with that staff that summons shaper?

[pulsar dune]

The slam is good afaik

[split maple]

i feel scammed

[brazen vector]

9 orbs

And a doppelgänger

Hunting for echoforge or what

[split maple]

i just want some good wokes

got echoforge already

had like ~30 writs from when i was farming indigon

[brazen vector]

I still miss that one x3

Despite farming maven like crazy every league

Maybe because I mostly did uber maven this time, oops

[split maple]

the only maven drop i was missing before this batch was arn

for some reason got like 3 dopys and echoforge before arns this league 😄

[brazen vector]

Damn

[obtuse ibex]

Thank you everyone for all of the feedback and ideas. I have been able to implement some important fixes. Please feel free to keep messaging me if you would like something else included.

[tranquil sedge]

nice tool

thats definitely a solid time-save for ppl planning idol setups before leaguestart

[brazen vector]

Someone on reddit leaked the phrecia notes!

https://tenor.com/view/discord-loading-gif-26060546

[tranquil sedge]

there's already a bunch of strats summarized for phrecia lol, prob top 3-4 are just gonna be from that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[brazen vector]

XcQ

[tranquil sedge]

noted for future reference

[soft perch]

link seems familiar

suspicion has been activated

[ocean field]

Will I make it

[tranquil sedge]

3 damage mods gl

[ocean field]

doryani hopefully doesn't fuck me up

[brazen vector]

It will

Minus max res is on dory

[ocean field]

I have 88% convert

to fire and cold

[brazen vector]

Yes, and those res are lowered

[ocean field]

yes

we'll see

gonna fight the boss

[brazen vector]

Good luck

[ocean field]

Yeah I am lowkey cooked

[split maple]

is it rly worth using doryani with only -64% lightres

[heady cliff]

people should reverse rickroll people with legit XcQ links

[ocean field]

testing rn

[ocean field]

got close but looks like I need 10% more convert and a lot of armour

but for the 10% convert I need 4 hunter pieces

[brazen vector]

Maybe go for the "capped max res is capped by highest max res" jewel tech if you dont already

Has a ton of -res too

[ocean field]

yeah

[brazen vector]

And you already stack cold res

Through shield

[ocean field]

no

[brazen vector]

Wait why did I see an aegis aurora

[ocean field]

cause usually use aegis here

tho I am using this for reservation efficiency

running 4 auras

[tranquil sedge]

aegis is the budget option till u can get a shaper shield for a lotta ppl

[ocean field]

2 purity determination tempest

[tranquil sedge]

its a really good budget option tho

[ocean field]

yep

I really want to make this doryani work

looks like I need more es

[brazen vector]

Grab the synth boss jewel then, can give another -80% lightning res

[ocean field]

which one

[frigid wedge]

can u send me link?

[ocean field]

synth boss?

are you talking about melding

[brazen vector]

I think that was it

[ocean field]

this one?

[proper rampart]

hope i get some good grafts

[tranquil sedge]

wot game is that tho fr

[frigid wedge]

dayum

[solid laurel]

can you get power charges via grafts? I know you can get end 🤔

[copper vale]

Skytim copycat bat gme

Thought that was guild wars 2 at first

[grave badger]

Do you guys know if PL are enabled for phrecia?

[fickle glen]

If I decrease DoT duration does that make it deal it’s full damage in less time or will it miss out on some of its damage?

[pulsar dune]

for damaging ailments, reduced duration means you miss out on damage, and deals damage X% faster means you do not
for other damage over time, reduced duration is just bad (faster expiry doesn't exist), tho if you can reapply in time, it's fine (assuming it doesn't overlap ofc)

[hoary scarab]

reducing duration will only decrease the overall dmg

[past rain]

what the helly is this

[tranquil sedge]

it does what it says

its an mtx

[past rain]

can i use it in poe1 tho

[tranquil sedge]

i am not sure

[past rain]

its like the ring

[rancid peak]

Patch notes wont be out for at least another full day 😭

[jagged raven]

is there a boss loot table sheet?

[stoic horizon]

wiki has boss drops listed for each pinnacle

but idk if there is a sheet with all in one place

[jagged raven]

oh ya ty

[steady elk]

what was the item that allows price checks ingame?

[brazen vector]

awakened trade macro?

[stoic horizon]

i think its the / button

[steady elk]

err i meant app sorry just beat eater lmao

[spice pecan]

anyone know anything about singular focus fucking up eagon tear spawns?

kinda weird that in 30 silos with singular focus i havent seen a single one

[pulsar dune]

30 is afaik a normal dry streak

I've also heard some theories of rerunning the same layouts over and over again making the odds lower, but I haven't seen evidence

[soft perch]

that sounds like turbo cope

[spice pecan]

<@&174997701513969665>

damn, you was fast

anyway aight, i'll try singular focus a bit more now that i migrated to tradeleague

tho i'm doing jun/harby/beyond/shrines/destructive play with unwavering vision

[silent leaf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/632627908439179274/980371559753609216/1530748900146966528.gif

[split maple]

I could buy that theory

I somehow always get tear quick when I either switch map or atlas

Tho thats very likely observer bias

[past rain]

do ya all also got no space left like what is taking up all this space wth

need space for patches

[tranquil sedge]

install wiztree and see for yourself

10/10 useful and free application

[dreamy charm]

also you can run disk cleanup on c:/

[silent leaf]

[past rain]

gatt

damn

[frigid wedge]

any strongbox enjoyers feel like informing me as to what actually produces the moneys

i swear half of it is the 1c cards

[ocean field]

if u actually have a lot of space allocated but no acutall stuff you can reset the pc and save like 40-50%

[tranquil sedge]

div cards and currency items from the arcanist and diviner strongboxes are a lot of the loot

plus whatever the monsters drop

i didnt enjoy it much personally ngl, i ran like a handful of maps and gave up

[frigid wedge]

is it actually worth running in phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

oh and if u run it in t16/t16.5 also cartographer boxes
(but not in t17)

[silent leaf]

i make 3d stuff so i need as much space as i can get

[frigid wedge]

nor do i but if i run something i do enjoy then i dont want to not have fun running it when we go back to using atlas

so its mostly precautional

[tranquil sedge]

i don't remember what it was like phrecia sry i didn't really do ambush back then

[ocean field]

yeah but what I mean is sometimes due to allocations and overwrite you create small portions that are empty but cannot be filled with data since that's how storage works. A reset fixes then. Just backup and reset

I download and install many games so I reset like every 6 months

since all of them leave residue

[frigid wedge]

fairs

ye strongboxes feel meh usually

but i need smth that works that i wouldnt mind ruining 4 myself

[ocean field]

strongboxes are so stupid gng

too much time

I guess it is maybe worth it with the mastery

but still

annoying af

[frigid wedge]

idm the clicking

i mind the inconsistency

[ocean field]

I mind everything

[frigid wedge]

its so inconsistent

[ocean field]

also the fact I have to pick 100 different shits

[frigid wedge]

1 map u make 2mir, next map u lose 2d

[ocean field]

XD

[frigid wedge]

next 354 maps u make 20c

[ocean field]

yeah this is like my harvest gamba on steriods

[frigid wedge]

i tried strongbox for ONE map on t17 im settlers, dropped 2mir and didn't run it again till 3.27 for like an hour

lmao

[steady elk]

man that si crazy

[wheat sinew]

Yeah no pause just tears

[hard cliff]

GOOD MORNING SEATLE

[minor mantle]

Is Mavenb interfering with my wifi or something

why cat i pause

[native abyss]

no space?

[hard cliff]

you can't pause during pinnacle bosses

[heady cliff]

phrecia allows scarab strongboxes on high end if patch notes would not kill it

that is quite reliable

[soft perch]

Anyone got a good idea of a solid blind source to activate kongmings

Eventually I’ll get the sabo ff

[steady elk]

well shit

i exited the tul and thesh encounter without clicking the altar

kek

[pulsar dune]

if you hit a lot, blind tattoo

[soft perch]

Ok yea fair enough that works fine

Good call forgot about this

Those

Wait are they blind on attack hit

[pulsar dune]

ah oops, attacks only

[atomic crane]

Will we have breach walls in phrecia please tell me no

[stoic horizon]

[tranquil sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-pineapple-apple-pen-gif-15346056401886826080

[pulsar dune]

2 redeemer bound by destiny

[pulsar dune]

(tho more realistically just don't use kongming)

[native abyss]

the giga drive

[frigid wedge]

yeah ig, i just wanna find smth to do atp

so im not deciding after i start

[spice pecan]

8888

[frigid wedge]

as a sidenote, when is adorned better than 12 passive clusters

on attrib stackers

[hexed mountain]

Dont they go together since clusters each have 2 sockets

[tranquil sedge]

12 passive

[frigid wedge]

no

u want voices for adorned

[hexed mountain]

Ha yeah. I never consider voices as a ssf enjoyer

[minor mantle]

I thought ssf players liked pain

[spice pecan]

wait

[minor mantle]

farming 57 simulacrums straight just to get all 7/5 passive voices sounds like ssf activity

[spice pecan]

if i want to get korell/vagan out, and grav in

(grav is already in the syndicate)

do i have to run this house and hope that vorici respawns in?

[split pagoda]

if its with voices, never

[hexed mountain]

We like pain but a usable voices is not a 3 months league activity

[spice pecan]

or rather

[tranquil sedge]

wut

[spice pecan]

is there any way to get korell and vagan out

and grav in (grav is already on board) edit: grav got sniped to unknown leader of fort/research but he WAS on board

[frigid wedge]

what

fun

even with ngamu flames advance?

for str stacker

[split pagoda]

yeah theres no way its ever worth

[tranquil sedge]

what did u mean if its with voices

[frigid wedge]

and without voices when is adorned + 3 notables better than 12 passive then

[spice pecan]

think im just fucked on transport yeah

have to run the house and pray that vorici spawns again

and i can move him to trans

[frigid wedge]

if u just leave the safehouse it goes btw

[spice pecan]

is it like middle option no change?

[split pagoda]

i mean maybe for some setup putting adorned in and still using 12ps could be worth, dont have to necessarily use voices lol

[tranquil sedge]

but thats not what he was asking tho

[frigid wedge]

u lose progress after 2 or 3 encounters when the safehouse is available and u dont click it

[whole bluff]

Couldn't they just make Ngamahu all jewels instead of rare

[tranquil sedge]

12p attribute clusters setup, vs. a 'proper' adorned setup, whatever that looks like

[frigid wedge]

and it stops being available

[tranquil sedge]

unless i misunderstood him?

[finite quail]

Grahhhhhhhhh I need patchnotes already

[spice pecan]

yeah, true, but homie brought up opening safehouse and immediately leaving

wonder which is best

[cobalt blade]

jewels in clusters cant have radius

[frigid wedge]

ngamu is non uniques

[split pagoda]

a proper adorned setup on a attribute stacker would not be using voices

is what im saying

[spice pecan]

you sweet summer child

[finite quail]

Definitely not

[frigid wedge]

yeah but the extra jewels on ur main tree would

[whole bluff]

Which is contributing to why it sucks I mean

[steady elk]

nothing pisses me off more than sellers who go afk after just listing an item

[modern zinc]

Inquisitor RF is pretty strong

[frigid wedge]

and if ur using that many non uniques then surely its worth going adorned

[tranquil sedge]

why are you not filtering for async trade listings

[frigid wedge]

instead of keeping them rare

[finite quail]

12p 35 effect large and small clusters give you so much flat attribs

[cobalt blade]

Nah thats incorrect

[split pagoda]

voices is simply bad on attri stackers

[tranquil sedge]

question was is there a point where an adorned setup beats that out

[steady elk]

how do you do that

[finite quail]

Price

[tranquil sedge]

'instant buyout top right

[cobalt blade]

voices can beat 12p's with proper synths for int/mana stackers

[whole bluff]

Tbh, they should buff the top-end of rare jewels. But they might be scared to cuz of experiences from poe2

[spice pecan]

so to properly reset my safehouse with vorici in transport, wanting to keep him there: should i open the safe house and immediately leave, or should i just run more maps to degen the progress?

[finite quail]

I'm betting that an adorned setup and its jewels end up being more expensive

[tranquil sedge]

pretend unlimited budget i guess for discussion sake

[spice pecan]

still need to get grav in there

[frigid wedge]

just degen progress

until safehouse gone

[finite quail]

Whichever one gives the most attribs wins

[cobalt blade]

also can beat them for str/life stack but only if your focusing on both and not just str

[spice pecan]

kk

[whole bluff]

Abyss jewels are a niche thing. But normal rare jewels need a buff imo

[cobalt blade]

I meaaan i dont personally think so but maybe

[stable pond]

i am extremely confused and would love if someone could answer this... I see in PoE 2 the Arcane Isle hideout. it is not available for purchase in poe2, but i think it's ported over from poe1? is it still available to purhcase in poe1? i have never played it

[split pagoda]

yeah im just thinking about pure stat stackers not ones that also delve into mana/life

[cobalt blade]

taking ngamahu tho just feels like pure waste

[frigid wedge]

look, i can just not go adorned, i just dont wanna make 12p clusters to find out that i dont have the best setup for my jewels

[frigid wedge]

undeniable is gonna be like 500d again

[cobalt blade]

pure stat stack yea 12p's are almost always better

[whole bluff]

Not crit multi mods, but % dmg, crit chance, accuracy, attack speed, cast speed, res, flat attributes. Those could use a buff on rare jewels

[cobalt blade]

oh fair for phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

what build are you making btw

[cobalt blade]

itll be more though

[split pagoda]

whats the exact build tho

[frigid wedge]

antiquarian thunderstorm

[cobalt blade]

gotta remember the int stackers need to steal it now :D

not just the str stacks

[frigid wedge]

deficiencies rn are % dmg (a lil bit bc no iron fortress) attack speed (maybe?) and life

[cobalt blade]

are you going faithguard?

[frigid wedge]

which sounds stupid but elegant hubris is required

[frigid wedge]

no

[cobalt blade]

for the % inc ward scaling

ah

[frigid wedge]

crit helm

if i go faithguard im just gonna go play ward shatter

[cobalt blade]

then i thiiink your prob better off going 12p?

[frigid wedge]

maybe

yeah

[cobalt blade]

no adorned unique jewel scaling for all your % from emp jewels/bbd/flat from splits

[frigid wedge]

is there a scenario in which i just slap adorned ontop of 12p

or is there not enough jewels to bother atp

[cobalt blade]

idt theres enough to bother with the required unique ones

[finite quail]

its from the supporter pack, verdant magus

[cobalt blade]

but smth youd need to pob

[finite quail]

you cant purchase the hideout by itself, you have to buy the whole supporter pack to get it afaik

[frigid wedge]

true

im rlly lazy tho and im likely to just throw myself at it until tree makes happy chemical

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[split pagoda]

there are definitely scenarios where adorned can be worth even if its just 4-5 jewels

just depends

[stable pond]

is it still available?

[cobalt blade]

it has to beat going wall of muscle smalls

which i personally doubt it would

with 4-5 jewels

[split pagoda]

yeah aint beating good smalls on a strength stacker

[whole bluff]

What if they just gave rare normal jewels 6 mods, but last 2 mods were just filler or effect of other mods

[hexed mountain]

No

[frigid wedge]

personally more likely to take crit multi

but to each their own ig

[hexed mountain]

Its already cringe to craft

[cobalt blade]

Thats fair

[whole bluff]

They have no potential though. It's unique jewels all the way endgame

[finite quail]

Yes

That's the lowest tier that has the hideout

[stable pond]

tysm for the info

[cobalt blade]

oh also what would youconsider filler mods +effect of other mods is execeedingly broken

[whole bluff]

You can't buff things to like:

• Single res 10-15 -> 16-24
• Double res 8-12 -> 10-15
• Fire dmg 12-16 -> 16-24
  With current state of adorned imo

[frigid wedge]

i cant use crown of eyes iron fortress so i need to multiply somehow

[finite quail]

what do you mean by this

[whole bluff]

No crit multi scalars. Just fire, ele, speed, etc

[cobalt blade]

what skill you playing again?

[fallow egret]

can rcm me build on phrenica season

[finite quail]

adorned is 0-100% inc effect

of jewels

[finite quail]

no

patchnotes not out yet

be patient

[fallow egret]

oke ty ❤️

[finite quail]

all good

[cobalt blade]

like move speed or attack/cast speed just being free stats on jewels

[finite quail]

[cobalt blade]

(both kinda nuts)

[whole bluff]

I didn't say those would be filler though

I was thinking like rarity

[cobalt blade]

i did ask what you would consider filler

lol

raritys also objectively broken

[whole bluff]

In the same sentence, you already said broken

So I answered that

[cobalt blade]

That was a separate line towards effect of other mods being broken

like if you had an extra 35% inc on your jewel kinda good

[whole bluff]

The entire sentence is a mess, ngl

[cobalt blade]

im not seeing it very much reads as different sentences with the + maybe couldve worded it better but eh

[whole bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-meme-when-the-gif-21470450

[whole bluff]

No punctuation, saying effect is broken without any caveats, lack of correct spacing doesn't make you more likely to trust the rest of the sentence is thought through or correctly written

Anyway, nvm bad idea

When patch notes

[frigid wedge]

thunderstorm

but antiquarian cant use alberons or crown without supreme ost, and then u dont benefit from iron fortress

[cobalt blade]

i mean fuck punctuation its discord not some essay or w/e lmao and as for being thought through i can just take any stat stacker ive played consider having a 20-30% inc on the jewel and see how thats broken

[finite quail]

[frigid wedge]

look, if you can find flat to spells and cast speed per strength feel free to tell me

bc spark is much more preferable

but until then

[finite quail]

what

[frigid wedge]

oh and % spell dmg

[finite quail]

are you talking about

what does thunderstorm have to do with that

thunderstorm is an attack

[frigid wedge]

that i can use spark instead if u have solutions for those

[cobalt blade]

thunderstorm is scuffed attack spark

[modern zinc]

Recoup is honestly such a pog mechanic

[whole bluff]

Punctuation does help to make your statements readable, discord doesnt change that. If your statements are well put they may not need punctuation, sure

[finite quail]

Thunderstorm is sooooo mid

[frigid wedge]

thunderstorm usage is for proj speed per str graft and dura per str ascend

[frigid wedge]

yes i know

but it uses 2 things i wont get to use again very well

soooo

[cobalt blade]

the obvious solution is energy blade+shapers touch

Converts your str to es to flat

[frigid wedge]

yeah but where cast speed

[cobalt blade]

Clusters

[frigid wedge]

that feels like an underwhelming amount for spark

[hexed mountain]

Farrul asc

[cobalt blade]

its still gonna feel better than thunderstorm ngl

[frigid wedge]

with 3 12 passives u get 120 cast speed

and cant use proj gloves

bc shapers touch

cant abuse ivory tower bc ostentation

[cobalt blade]

yknow does ostentation overide shapers touch i actually dont know

[frigid wedge]

it overrides life per str

but no shapers touch is fine

iron fortress is not

bc it modifies an existing bonus for str

[cobalt blade]

Ya that i know and i see

[frigid wedge]

i just feel like str caster is kinda mid

bc eblade prevents spell dmg per str but u get no flat without it

and i cant click iron fortress

[cobalt blade]

Ye youd just be stacking it for the proj speed which is fun but not good

[frigid wedge]

mm

[cobalt blade]

(i do still stand by this though)

thunderstorm is so ass

The only upside with it is that for some reason your not forced into bows lol

[frigid wedge]

i am aware

[stoic horizon]

without inquis maybe

but str gives you es too for eb

and also gives life for ivory

which gives es again

[frigid wedge]

i just feel like unless i go main hand doon offhand smth else big

its gonna be gross

[stoic horizon]

you already get a decent bunch of % dmg from iron will

[frigid wedge]

sure, when ur not forced to click supreme ostentation

[cobalt blade]

Waait terrible idea foulborn doon

Mana per str into archmage

[stoic horizon]

ah you go antiq

makes sense

[cobalt blade]

surely works flawlessly

[frigid wedge]

yeah

losing the default bonuses from strength kinda super kills caster str stack

[frigid wedge]

i think if i suggest playing archmage again zevus may send me my home address

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[frigid wedge]

i never play it but its always my first consideration

:/

[stoic horizon]

need 1 more

[frigid wedge]

yeah probably

[stoic horizon]

then never talk about archmage again

[frigid wedge]

nah

cba

[stoic horizon]

to keep the funni number

[frigid wedge]

or i can type it 621 extra times after that

but yeah i dont wanna socket thunderstorm

but spark seems even more jank somehow

[cobalt blade]

the largest problem tbh is losing iron will hard fucks you

[stoic horizon]

at least it can steal decent dmg unlike arc

[frigid wedge]

technically could go for +2 lightning wands with spell dmg per strength implicits

[pulsar dune]

can you even hit a +2 lighting wand on a synth base?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[frigid wedge]

yes

u end up with +2 and then usually flat lightning tho

[pulsar dune]

fossils I assume

[cobalt blade]

Aug

[frigid wedge]

yeah u fossil for spell skills and then add 2 diff lightning mods

[pulsar dune]

aug sounds miserable

[ocean field]

after rigorous testing I have come to the conclusion that just stacking ES instead of trying to convert the last 10% of lightning damage is the WAY Better

[cobalt blade]

iirc multi mod cannot roll attack aug forces flat to spells or +1 lightning

[frigid wedge]

w full suffixes

[ocean field]

The ES stack is so broken bruh

[frigid wedge]

smth like that yr

[cobalt blade]

for wut

[modern zinc]

fr

I'm doing a RF Hiero Inquisitor Mom

the ES is huge

[pulsar dune]

rolling +1 all 9 times is not that bad IG

[frigid wedge]

so we have: flat fire per str on bow AND quiver and alberons, vs 2 +2 lightning wands with % per str

[pulsar dune]

well, no, it's pretty bad

[tranquil sedge]

you can also fossil for it

and annul down as needed

that saves a hell of a lot of time

[stoic horizon]

es is op in general

[ocean field]

yeah why try to fk with Resistances when you just tank the hit

[tranquil sedge]

you don't even have to annul down to 1 mod

can go down to 2-3 mod and split item too

[pulsar dune]

synth base

[tranquil sedge]

oh

if its expensive enough base then maybe you can afford to just fossil and annul ig

otherwise yea alt spamge

[frigid wedge]

or pierce quiver widowhail

[pulsar dune]

but yea, +1 all, crafted spell flat, cannot roll attacks, aug, is a 1/9 to hit +1 lightning

[soft perch]

Is this spark antiquarian

Aware

[frigid wedge]

yes

comparing potential w spark

[pulsar dune]

and 3/4 to not brick the item IG

[frigid wedge]

but thunderstorm is mechanically miserable

[soft perch]

Ye u need a lot of global attack speed for thunderstorm

[cobalt blade]

have you considered making thunderstorm even worse and going behemoth thunderstorm

[pulsar dune]

how about storm burst instead of either?

IG you still need spell damage per str wands

but it has phys tag so they are less bad to craft

[cobalt blade]

antiquarian

[soft perch]

Storm burst loves duration

[pulsar dune]

it has the secret upside of getting most of the duration payoff at the start of the duration

[cobalt blade]

oh i thought that was the one that wanted reduced nvm then

[pulsar dune]

that's storm call I think

[cobalt blade]

yeye

[whole bluff]

Storm burst is less annoying than a skill that needs full duration for payoff so that's nice

[soft perch]

It is a channelled skill so it will always be annoying

[pulsar dune]

for clear you should be fine with just one click

but admittedly it is probably still annoying

[whole bluff]

True, mechanically it's still bad sorta. The frontloaded duration mechanic is like the only upside

[cobalt blade]

tbh you might end up with enough spark dmg to use that for clear anyway

[hard cliff]

just use totems for stormburst

clears up all issues

[elder marlin]

whats the best way to keep ag alive without passives skills?

cant use different weapon tho

[pulsar dune]

mask of the stiched demon, gruthkul, links

[tranquil sedge]

link it to meat shield and give it some tanky gear with regen ^

[elder marlin]

whats better, minion life or meat shield?

[tranquil sedge]

good question
idk

169/100 > 100/.69 so maybe minion life i guess in a vacuum?

[eternal hill]

bleh, we aint getting those patch notes today

[elder marlin]

thats more and inc btw for minion life

[tranquil sedge]

u right
so i guess the difference is even bigger in favor of minion life support

[elder marlin]

assume my ag is 21/20

[tranquil sedge]

we're just assuming same base life for both so that's fine
and ye get a 21/20

[plush gulch]

do you think I can make a decent build around harbinger discharche cast on crit or when channeling

I like what it offer 20% dmg reduction, immune to stun and element, a way to split dmg between life and es while getting a bigger Es pool

and I was thinking with maybe something like immortal ambition you get overleech and stuff

[elder marlin]

https://pobb.in/-lp_1YO-nvbM im so close to dot cap, what can i upgrade to get there

[plush gulch]

from cyclone life leech to es leech + spell leech

and with cdr I can use the real discharge the one that has a 2s cd but way more dmg

harbinger givce 40 cdr

[plush gulch]

no idea what doom blast even is

😮

[elder marlin]

impending doom

[plush gulch]

make more sense

[elder marlin]

doom blast is the dmg portion of impending doom

[modern zinc]

I'd play hardcore if it weren't for the fact that I often die because I'm distracted

alt tabbed, answering the door or grabbing food

i'm also afraid of crashes and lags

[potent bramble]

Similarly, I would play HC if I trusted my internet connection to stay stable, but I don't.

Though also, the few times I've tried it I didn't have as much fun, because I felt like I was required to play safer and I enjoyed the more risky/casual approach

[split pagoda]

I mean its possible right

Depends on ur timezone ig

[eternal hill]

monday is supposedly a public holiday over there

[split pagoda]

Ah

[steady elk]

i would play hardcore if i hated my play time on poe1

[frigid wedge]

sorry hi yes uh, i wanna use the proj speed graft

[pulsar dune]

fair fair

[frigid wedge]

im happy to do spark over thunder im just not rlly sure how id start

compared to w thunder where i just get the quiver and abberaths hooves to get it going

[modern zinc]

I wanna use the graft that shields me when I take damage

[frigid wedge]

str stack spark feels like a late swap sorta build

[frigid wedge]

idk if the spark situation is literally just dont use it until the grafts etc

bc thunderstorm i can just use storm rain to supplement until i get proj speed

and still str stack

[cerulean raven]

Hey I have been looking for a herald of ash mtx for some time but I can't find it anywhere, its like a prism color effect with a big somewhat expanding circle. if anyone has an idea of what it could be please dm me

[finite quail]

look in the shop mtx herald list

it has videos for each herald

[pulsar dune]

spark of unpredictability is usually vaguely playable without proj speed

[cerulean raven]

I have

[finite quail]

then if you havent found it there, you cant buy it

[cerulean raven]

looked at every video

[finite quail]

simple as

[cerulean raven]

can't it be a supporter pack mtx?

[finite quail]

i dont think any of the latest supporter packs have herald mtx

[frigid wedge]

yeah but then i need to find projectiles

:P

and gmp seems meh

i want to use widowhail

tbh

but wands are so much stronger for that setup that it's not really a choice i have

[meager pagoda]

poe ninja is down or just very slow?

[tranquil sedge]

slow i think

[pseudo axle]

wow I thought sanctum would feel good on my int/acc stacker

sure doesn't

but I think that is because of the mechanic itself

[frigid wedge]

yes it is

which skill r u using

[pseudo axle]

vaal lightning strike of arcing

[frigid wedge]

try reave

its less precise so ur more likely not to miss

[pseudo axle]

uh, no?

lightning strike of arcing is literally insane

[frigid wedge]

small projectile vs big aoe

[pseudo axle]

I just don't like sanctum lmao

[frigid wedge]

sanctum is full of individual mobs

so chain does not help

[pseudo axle]

iI mean, sure

but also

[frigid wedge]

having something that hits a quarter of the screen

is far better than smth that offscreens when theres mobs

bc the mobs are very spaced in sanctum

[pseudo axle]

yeah I get that

but also I'm not going to respec my entire build just to do sanctum when it is annoying, and the skill was not the issue for me

I already dumped a mirror + worth of currency into this character

[frigid wedge]

im suggesting you swap 1 skill gem

and do nothing else

[gritty epoch]

Able to see anything is also a plus in sanctum I must add

[pseudo axle]

my damage is spec'd for lightning

so there is that

[frigid wedge]

yes

and int acc stack

[pseudo axle]

I could get reave of refraction but that feels meh

[frigid wedge]

gains flat lighning

so just

[pseudo axle]

oh right that is true I guess

[frigid wedge]

swap the gem

xD

most of ur flat dmg comes from ur boots not the gem

[pseudo axle]

the base damage of the claws/skills doesnt come into play much

yeah

[frigid wedge]

its part of the reason so many skills get considered

[gritty epoch]

Invested 1 mirror plus on the build -> Doesn't understand the build

[pseudo axle]

I understand the build

[frigid wedge]

this is the way

ye give it another go with a reave gem

see how it feels

[pseudo axle]

I mean sure

but also it didn't feel good in the sense that it was boring, which was entirely my original point

you were the one who made it about the skill

I was hoping it would feel better on a character that can breeze through it and it does not

reave might help make it a bit less tedious but I just don't think sanctum is for me

[hard cliff]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/RubyBenji-2543/Ruby_Of_Smiting?i=0&search=skills%3DAnimate%2BGuardian%2Bof%2BSmiting

Why is this guy running Rathpit on an animate guardian aura/link bot ? Is it just for the big defensive stats ?

[pseudo axle]

he could just be bad?

idk I forget if rathpit works on ag

I don't think it does

yeah it doesnt

thats just a strictly dead shield

[hard cliff]

I guess the +2 to flamelink and the defensive stats were good enough

I know that feel bro

Considering playing this

I could be a worse merc aurabot

but without the 100+ map hunt for one

[pseudo axle]

wait

rathpit isnt on the ag

I misunderstood completely now looking at the pob

[hard cliff]

we don't know what's on the ag

but yes it's his

https://i.imgur.com/nDbKzLb.png

How hard is this to make and/or buy ?

[pseudo axle]

thats a pretty GG minion helm

[wheat sinew]

No +2 so reasonable

Looks like prefix lock into reforge fire

Actually socketed spam

Heh

[hard cliff]

What gives it the socketed gems ?

Is that from the item or a crafting item

[wheat sinew]

It's an essence

[hard cliff]

Does it give like that combo or just roll a bunch ?

[wheat sinew]

Horror iirc

It gives socketed and that's it

Socketed more dmg

[hard cliff]

so where are the support gems coming from ?

[pulsar dune]

the others are elder influence

[wheat sinew]

Elder influence

[pseudo axle]

nevermind I guess that helm is dirt cheap now

harvest man

that helmet is like a divine orb, you can get even better ones for more

[hard cliff]

Ohhhhhh damn

thanks then that's great

I stole this from someone here but this looks like a good league start barring patch craziness

https://pobb.in/MBydiOhYWjkU

[pseudo axle]

oh actually I guess with resistences

[hard cliff]

Blade Vortex looks really strong just in general

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/4eEOSueq7k7E

[pseudo axle]

a few divines

[spice pecan]

is anyone able to tell that this cwdt loop works

for this cursebot

or should i ask wardloop disco (this aint wardloop)

idk really what else to deterministicly make it work outside of stupid stuff

[hard cliff]

THANK YOU @pseudo axle

[spice pecan]

the only thing i need to add is 9% cdr

but with that, does this build work?

[dusky urchin]

it kinda

[uneven gust]

pherica?

[cobalt blade]

it looks like its just manual cast fr to trigger the gems

[uneven gust]

may i introduce you to dr bees?

hold on let me cook

[pulsar dune]

where is the loop part?

[hard cliff]

How good or bad is animate guardian of smiting ai ?

for damage

[finite quail]

its the same as any other npc ai

[hard cliff]

Different summons have way different vibes tho

[cobalt blade]

bad but you can give it ancestral call iirc

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/eHu92v4.png

That's what he's running last league

[frigid wedge]

pira what prompted ur new pfpp

[hard cliff]

I just like to change it every once in a blue moon

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

its more similar to the old one ig

wait i got urs and rilays confused for a sec

[split maple]

gaming

[frigid wedge]

ye is ur theme just black and red

[cobalt blade]

no shot the ag is weak enough it needs fortify

[frigid wedge]

always

[hard cliff]

He also has the allies have your fortify on f/f so I'm like 🤔

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[hard cliff]

I think this is not a perfectly optimized build

but I mean the concept is there

[frigid wedge]

fort support has attack speed per fort

[frigid wedge]

more dmg*

rage is attack speed per

[cobalt blade]

It doesnt

[uneven gust]

use aul bloodline lol, ez

[cobalt blade]

Or more dmg

[plush gulch]

we can switch ascendancy now right ?

[frigid wedge]

ye i got confused

[cobalt blade]

It has just 20% more well fortified lmao

[hard cliff]

I guess so and fortitude is max fort

[frigid wedge]

it just has more dmg

[uneven gust]

i was thinking flicker oshabi with einhar bloodline

[pseudo axle]

are simulacrums profitable anymore?

[frigid wedge]

woa

yeah idrk

[hard cliff]

I feel like you could theorize using ancestral calll instead but depends on the attack speed penalty and how it'd feel if he misses it lol

[frigid wedge]

there probably isnt enough generic damage supports

so they just clicked highest dps change