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past rain
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holy yap

plush gulch
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and dmg as extra

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no spell means no way to spend the charge so you always hav e them

past rain
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just run 28 harbs

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with 100% boss harb

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free mir

plush gulch
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no i was told because of tree that print fracture item

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it sucks

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don't you think?

whole bluff
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So that's why fracturing orbs are 1.5d

spice pecan
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some guy on reddit bought 1k to ship em to standard

grizzled lily
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now frac orbs will be 50c each

past rain
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or run 60 intelligence syndicatee safehouse per map

grizzled lily
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cause of idols and tree

past rain
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run city square

grizzled lily
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xdd

past rain
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and free medallion

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sell for 2d

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repeat

split maple
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if frac orbs are cheapo just print temple gloves shrugR

grizzled lily
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youll do harbis just for mirror shards

brazen vector
simple stag
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Jun bubblegum strat sucked last phrecia thats all i remember about safehouse

plush gulch
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idol seems really more fun than the atlas tree

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like you can go deeper in any strat and any strat is different

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where as now you always pick all explicit modifer

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and stuff

past rain
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fr

brazen vector
plush gulch
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and everything looks a bit samish

simple stag
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That and leveling the tree can get tiring af

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Idols are a nice change of pace

plush gulch
past rain
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but idols also kinda annoying because if u get behind u get really behind.. and punished for it

brazen vector
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You have to level your idol reliquary thing too

split maple
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idk how i am getting good idols in first week but i am a strong believer into being overoptimistic

thick goblet
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is there any point in clearing atlas in phrecia? i can't remember

brazen vector
thick goblet
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oh

earnest raven
simple stag
past rain
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yes i have the 3 infractions

earnest raven
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That just means they like u

plush gulch
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where are the cops

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nobody get in trouble anymore you have people making 3 infractions a day roaming around

wispy comet
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are people referring to a specific item when they talk about "foulborn claws"?

plush gulch
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that"s why nobody feel safe in wraeclast

tardy cosmos
plush gulch
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hand motion something

plush gulch
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those behemot guide are looking weird

whole bluff
split maple
spice pecan
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behemoth does function as a cracked ass armor stacker in group play

plush gulch
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I think I want to play behemot

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with spirit charge and abyss jewel

whole bluff
spice pecan
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it looks unplayable for solo play

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tbh

plush gulch
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you can get abyssal socket on all your gear

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to get flat dmg

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then you get abyssal socket everywhere because no spell

whole bluff
plush gulch
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you can use spirit charge helmet for 15% extra dmg per abyssal jewel

whole bluff
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I'm not playing that thing with a one hander for eternal apple

plush gulch
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voidforge

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beside void forge idk what is good

crimson hearth
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I finished campaign in 8hours thanks to you guys tips

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Anyways

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What mech should i farm this league?

spice pecan
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in phrecia or keepers?

crimson hearth
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Keepers

split maple
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HOLY FUCK

spice pecan
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idk people like boxes

normal hedge
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kinda hard to tell because ps4 market is prolly very different

pulsar dune
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congrats

spice pecan
normal hedge
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but right after campaign its just the shrug man -> anything you like or want

crimson hearth
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Its not too bad the market but like what would be good for iceshot?

spice pecan
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ice shot mines?

crimson hearth
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Yeah

spice pecan
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i think thats like a sanctum/bosskiller build

split maple
normal hedge
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nah it can map just fine but its a 5k max hit deadeye

plush gulch
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what are the best weapon to add flat dmg to with stacking abyssal jewel

crimson hearth
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Yeah i could use iceshot without mines tho

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I could try expedition?

spice pecan
plush gulch
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to our weapon

spice pecan
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uhh, bow builds really like lots of abyss jewels with flat

normal hedge
# crimson hearth I could try expedition?

id say dont farm expedition if u're not playing a dot build, also expedition is kinda bad this league because tree shits a lot of fractured bases and really really good rares. Can check lifeforce prices, harvest isnt hard to understand and any leaguestarter can farm it

crimson hearth
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Ohh okeyy il try harvest ig and maybe il check out ultimatum thanks

spice pecan
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you could maybe do expedition to try and find olroth logbooks to split

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but idk if that farm was even good beyond like week 2

crimson hearth
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Probably not il check tho still

normal hedge
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farming expedition with 3 scarabs is so sad if u're not a chaos dot build

graceful minnow
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is there any way to select phrecia in pob to start planning ahead for a build?

normal hedge
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select 3.26 (alternate)

spice pecan
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bottom center, change version to 3.26 alternate

graceful minnow
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thank you!

normal hedge
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at bottom part

crimson hearth
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Btw what mods should i try to craft for bow/quiv later on?

spice pecan
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no idea for ice shot mines

normal hedge
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its the usual crit multi, life, dmg with bows etc

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and flat from essence prolly

grizzled lily
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+1 arrows

pseudo axle
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already dropped one doryani map today, and then I find this:

spice pecan
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gg

pseudo axle
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this is getting out of hand! now there are two of them!

warped gazelle
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Anyone doing Surfcaster Smite or Ancestral Commander Molten Strike

spice pecan
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surfcaster and AC probably likely to get nerfed

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wouldn't plan too hard on one of those

hard cliff
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hello boys

spice pecan
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scavenger potentially too

hard cliff
golden phoenix
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hello gals

warped gazelle
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propably, i dont really care if they get nerfed

thick goblet
golden phoenix
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I've been linked it four separate times in the last 12 hours or something

spice pecan
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is it some mana manip

spare ore
spice pecan
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like snipe

golden phoenix
normal hedge
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isnt it the same for every channeling skill

spice pecan
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makes sense

golden phoenix
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Won't be using it myself

hard cliff
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can you use curse on hit with a shield attack?

normal hedge
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guy said "new tech" like he found something really new icant

spice pecan
warped gazelle
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I just wanna enjoy the playstyle, + havent played strike skills in a while

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one other that i had in mind was Whisperer Kinetic blast but that might be paper

proud gorge
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"curse on hit" is curse on hit, it curses on any hit you (personally) generate

spice pecan
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kboc whisperer probably going to be giga spendy too

proud gorge
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maybe on proxies? Proxies are treated as having all your items and stats and modifiers, so a proxy hitting should also curse on hit?

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that seems like it makes sense

golden phoenix
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Proxies are not you, though.

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Depends on the proxy I think? If they'd get their own curse on hit.

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It's complicated

proud gorge
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yeah but that's mostly relevant for stuff like them hitting something and then not granting you anything that's conditional on you doing something

golden phoenix
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True

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Which is why I can't do fortify support on frozen legion SadCat

proud gorge
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if you have a ring with "Curse enemies with Despair on hit", the proxy should also have that stat

split maple
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Hexblast mines had that as fundamental part of build

proud gorge
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makes sense yeah

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also, on the topic of channeling skills and mana manipulation for the purposes of causing it to cancel the channel instantly, honestly that sort of thing only really does anything in two conditions

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That being if it's a channeling skill where you normally have to channel it for some duration, then it deals damage once when you release the channel (eg: snipe, divine ire, flameblast, etc), or if for some reason the first instance of channel on the skill is special in some way (also the case for snipe)

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without that second point, though, it's just a very efficient way to release the channel instantly, repeatedly

pliant hamlet
spice pecan
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i thought fortify wouldn't work on frozen legion because it doesnt deal enough damage to trigger it

split maple
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Yo iks remember when I told you imma gonna settle on some humble helicals kek

pliant hamlet
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lol yeah?

spare mason
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proj + skill vs + attack skills whats the major difference for poison burst path finder?

split maple
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Did it

pliant hamlet
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Gz!

proud gorge
sonic cloak
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yo is there smth like tradde chat?

pliant hamlet
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not here

spice pecan
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there is, in fact, trade chat in-game

spare mason
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@proud gorge + skill levels to projectiles, VS + skill levels to attack skills. IS there a major difference damage wise posion burst pathfinder build.

sonic cloak
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Ye, no one looks at that chat

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I feel like

split maple
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Folks use trade site you know

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And fausty

sonic cloak
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Ye, but I have a request, there are like 3 of the ring I'm looking for

proud gorge
golden phoenix
valid coral
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hi, my connection with my server is bad, i almost lost a char in hardcore

spice pecan
proud gorge
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oh, this is a PoE2 question, and PoE2 has way more plus level stuff

crimson hearth
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I hate early atlas sm isw

proud gorge
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this is the wrong general, but no, +1 level to Projectile skill gems and +1 level to Attack skill gems should equally benefit a Projectile Attack skill

crimson hearth
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No gold to respec put it all in kingsmarch idk why

pseudo axle
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update: there's a kurgal in that abyssal city kekw, 3 delve bosses within like 40k sulphite's worth of travel

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ez money

proud gorge
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we need to get a Discord emote that says "go to the 2 general, you're in the wrong place"

stuck phoenix
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Nobody can read that

crimson hearth
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Whats a way to make lotta gold early atlas?

proud gorge
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just make it a really long emote

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four emotes that tile left to right

stuck phoenix
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I dedicated my nickname to it so I can just hit them with like ❌ and they'll sometimes read it and realise

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And other times they'll not care

stuck phoenix
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That feels like a lot of effort to react with though

proud gorge
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I just do ➡️ 2️⃣

modern zinc
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minions are a pretty safe and strong build

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it's not fast tho

proud gorge
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I mean, with a good minion build with high clearspeed, while they won't be the fastest at running through maps, you'll be able to be "functionally" pretty fast by merit of not having to slow down to kill things

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plus if your minions have enough range they can just start attacking while running along behind you

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it's part of why WDs are so popular, they're not only very strong, they're also very long range attackers

stuck phoenix
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Xddd

proud gorge
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nice

strong totem
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Just ban them or time out from poe1

stuck phoenix
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Though in hindsight I'd swap 0 and O

proud gorge
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I'd put the space after Goto and before 2

stuck phoenix
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Fair

stuck phoenix
proud gorge
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so it reads like an assembly command lmao

hybrid harness
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I thought T02 was a football team or smth

strong totem
stuck phoenix
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Unfortunately, yes

plush gulch
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wiat I miss the mod flexing his power

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sad

golden phoenix
# pliant hamlet spent half a day learning and your website is so impressive 😮 I'm really curio...

Don't wanna clog up this chat with too much path of pathing stuff, but the brief version:

It uses a combination of Kruskal's algorithm and Dijkstra's algorithm to first create a set of unconnected node-groups in the tree, one for each desired node, combines any adjacent groups together, and then it uses Dijkstra's shortest path algorithm to find the shortest path that connects any two node groups, connects and merges those, and then repeats that until only a single node group remains that contains all the desired nodes

Root node is always desired, and the site modifies the passive tree json file to precalculate an earliest required node for all notable nodes in the tree. That means that if you can't reach node X without node Y, selecting node X as desired also selects node Y as desired. These earliest required nodes usually connects the notables to the travel node used to enter their node group, but only in cases where there aren't multiple entrance nodes to a node group.

Sorry for the rant y'all SadCat

proud gorge
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oh yeah, now that I've gotten into maps, I gotta say this Sabo Foulborn Kitava's Thirst build has a lot less failure rate than I expected, since when there's a load of enemies around, even if it fails to cast the blazing salvo, the sheer amount of enemies getting hit by my Soulrend projectiles means that is sustains anyways

plush gulch
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poe game dev got the right to yap here

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🔥

proud gorge
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turns out with enough enemy density the build just fixes the "loop" automatically every time

golden phoenix
pulsar dune
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blazing salvo lessgo

proud gorge
pulsar dune
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path of pathing is cool, do yap.

proud gorge
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it's a very strong spectre

golden phoenix
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Dang is it cool though, you're right

modern zinc
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thanks, I'll look out for them

golden phoenix
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Coolest thing I ever did

fringe idol
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anyone know if this is good? It's hard for me to read it as anything other than double strike damage but I dont fully understand it

golden phoenix
pulsar dune
pliant hamlet
fringe idol
proud gorge
fringe idol
plush gulch
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it's good for infernal blow

proud gorge
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so it's best when combined with a slam that attacks once per second or something

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if you're attacking once per second, it's 100% more damage, which is amazing

pulsar dune
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IIRC back when it was in the game, it allowed an unbounded number of EQoA aftershocks to stack up

surreal musk
proud gorge
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if you're attacking twice a second, then it's 50% more damage, which is still alright but a lot less good

surreal musk
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so unless ur aps is >1s its not double dmg

pulsar dune
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may be worth testing in phrecia

golden phoenix
plush gulch
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50% is way more than most node

proud gorge
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yeah

fringe idol
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I guess that means at 3 APS its 33% more which is at least mediocre

ancient sorrel
pulsar dune
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7s latency is on damage is borderline unplayable, but the DE/s is absurdly high

plush gulch
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and you can find niche ability where it's useful for you to get extra cast like infernal blow

stuck phoenix
proud gorge
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if you're attacking less than twice a second but more than once a second it's worse than 50% more though

golden phoenix
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My personal guideline for damage ascendancy points is that 30% is average but that's something I learned like.. five years ago, so maybe I'm wrong now.

fringe idol
pliant hamlet
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Yeah yeah, I'm building my own game so having somethign like this in my tool box, even if it'll take 6mo+ of off and on experimenting, will be very useful. 😄 hence my heavy interest

gritty garnet
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if your attack speed is like 1 per second you're doing slams

proud gorge
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yeah

gritty garnet
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and it's a proxy so you don't get exerts from it

surreal musk
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33% more is still very good for an ascendancy notable but any end game attack build wands more than 3 aps with decent gear

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wants*

proud gorge
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it's very good if you're building a very slow slam basically yeah

pseudo axle
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attack speed is king for a lot of skills

fringe idol
proud gorge
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it's just a multiplier on your damage

plush gulch
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it can be cool if you hate war cry for some reason and don't use those

pliant hamlet
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20% is the very baseline, >30% is a good node, and anything above that is basically a build defining node in my book ScuffThink

valid coral
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try to run path as admin, maybe is my firewall fucking the game.

gritty garnet
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I've also see it (the weapon version) used with static strike and saboteur triggerbots to triple them

pseudo axle
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20% usually should come with some other QoL benefit, 30% is 'mid', 40% usually is either outstanding or has a drawback

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the slam ascendency y'all are talking about is pretty mid, having tried it

past rain
pseudo axle
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tawhoa's chosen or w/e its called

golden phoenix
proud gorge
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yeah, it's very much one of those things that's theoretically extremely powerful, but in order to take full advantage of it you have to build in a specifically really bad way

valid coral
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fucked, didnt help, i will have to wait to my ISP fix shit, no poe weekend 😢

plush gulch
pliant hamlet
proud gorge
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though honestly the biggest issue is the mirage slam not benefitting from warcries and fist of war and such

fringe idol
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I stripped down a stacker to level 90 with that node and am on 1M dps with only 5 uniques equipped, no T0s, and no jewels. I think I can make MS/DSOJ work if it works like that.

plush gulch
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xD

plush gulch
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I did

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game is bugged what can I do

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joking I suck at this memory game

opal ingot
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it's so peak

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i got a mirror in another game

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(mirrors unique items)

plush gulch
pliant hamlet
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ScuffThink I'd actually struggle to come up with 1 40% more node for every ascendency. I'm pretty sure most don't have one

pulsar dune
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smh, you can't mirror uniques silly

opal ingot
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overhaul

proud gorge
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it's alright yeah

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I see you're not running Fargo's Soul DLC though

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since iirc Mirror is a component under that

plush gulch
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i just bought dark souls 3

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too lazy to try yet

proud gorge
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though maybe it's not anymore, it's been a while since the last time I played Calamity + Fargo's

opal ingot
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ooh

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the shimmer info doesn't display the other item

proud gorge
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ah, maybe I'm misremembering then

pliant hamlet
opal ingot
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ah no wait, it's still just those 3 items to craft, but i have the fargo dlc for compatiblity

proud gorge
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I just mean that I thought it would have the Material label, but now that I think about it I don't think Mirror was actually in Soul of Calamity

opal ingot
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ngl i dont know what's a hope shredder

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Hopeshredder is a unique Ranger BowRanger BowBowPhysical Damage: 56-117Critical Strike Chance: 6.00%Attacks per Second: 1.30Requires Level 60, 212 Dex. It is an Elder item.

== Item acquisitionHopeshredder has restrictions on where or how it can drop. It cannot be chanced. ==

=== Monster restrictionsThis item can be acquired from the followin...

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never seen this in my life

brazen vector
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Never killed the elder?

plush gulch
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that's how I call my country president

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nice name

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im french what can I say

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you saw our manifestation

opal ingot
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i kid

proud gorge
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I do appreciate Atziri's Disfavour being on there, that's a real classic

brazen vector
proud gorge
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I don't think anybody uses Atziri's Disfavour these days though

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except maybe for levelling enlightens?

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that seems like a terrible use for it

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you'd have to force 6 blue on a str/dex weapon

brazen vector
proud gorge
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oh, that's more than I would have thought

split maple
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only 1000 people chilling in 5ways

proud gorge
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like, it's broadly speaking just sort of a decent but not amazing 2h phys axe

brazen vector
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They all use it for gem leveling purposes

proud gorge
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okay yeah these guys all have it in the offhand slot for levelling empowers

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disgusting

brazen vector
fierce rock
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is whisperer going to get nerfed? i need ggg insider info only, please only reply if you have a dad who works at ggg

brazen vector
split maple
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i rly hope whisperer will only get numerical nerfs

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or like even that spell dmg to attacks survives, remove dex stack node if you want 😄

silent leaf
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what in the fuck

brazen vector
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The intern will write the notes on thursday

proud gorge
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someone really wants help

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and they're not taking no for an answer

silent leaf
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yea 3 deleted msg

brazen vector
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The world if the edit button existed

silent leaf
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nah legit

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he put the same shit twice

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and didnt delete it

plush gulch
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go help that poor guy

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lol

silent leaf
plush gulch
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me nobody helped me there

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ever

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😔

silent leaf
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i mean

plush gulch
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I prefer hanging out here

silent leaf
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if its a super fucking obscure build

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that no one has ever made work

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0.01% pick rate

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kinda "no shit" situation

split maple
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bv should be ok tho no?

silent leaf
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for BV not sure

plush gulch
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what's the point then

silent leaf
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and they are cringing that they cant get help

plush gulch
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you have guide

split maple
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like take whatever uses pbod (surfacster) swap a few brand nodes off and somehow convert chest to that +vaal level thingie and gg

plush gulch
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already made for the other

keen niche
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most build there dont have guide , that why they ask for help

silent leaf
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if its well known

keen niche
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they want to do their own thing but dont know how so they ask other to do it for them

silent leaf
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yea people will know HOW TO HELP

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if its obscure, like minions

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people will have far more trouble since they never played it

normal hedge
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ofc its obscure when u're planning to do it in a worse ascendancy

silent leaf
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except for very few people

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like

plush gulch
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🤔 you know people can make up build and propose ideas or at least tell you where you went wrong, it's not because it's a never made build before that's it's tainted pact level of complexity

keen niche
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the amount of people saying they dont want to follow build but then ask what gear to use , what path to use on tree and what support to use with skill , its the same exact thing as following a guide

silent leaf
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i wanna say smth but i think im restraining kek

plush gulch
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you wanted to be mean

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🦆

silent leaf
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ok so you want to create another mathematical formula

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your own fucking thing

hard cliff
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man I am fiendimg for poe

silent leaf
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you seek out professors

hard cliff
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I need phrecia

split maple
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so go play it Pira

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keepers is still on

silent leaf
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but they dont know what are your symbols and what you are trying to do

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how the fuck do people help

hard cliff
silent leaf
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best the professors can do

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its quite literally just refer to something they already are fond of

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which is

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"300 life per acts, 75% res"

split maple
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"one damaging skill"

silent leaf
plush gulch
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the first build I made

silent leaf
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like its

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very common knowledge

plush gulch
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was champion perforate of bloodshed bleed

silent leaf
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or like you should be able to think like that

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thats how irl works

tight plinth
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first build i made was a tectonic slam build with mokous and eye of innocence kek

silent leaf
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you cant re-invent the wheel, but you cant also just invent smth and expect someone to fucking give you 90% of the answer

tight plinth
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and abyssus

silent leaf
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cause thats just fucking plagiarism

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or here, A GUIDE

plush gulch
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so if you are stuck and ask for direction

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you didn't do anything

silent leaf
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in middle of knowhere

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yep

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i wont give direction

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cause every direction wont have an oasis

plush gulch
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i mean what a useless channel anyway

silent leaf
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in a FUCKING DESERT

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if your middle of sahara

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your fucked eitherway

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if people

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ok lemme fact check where napoleon went

plush gulch
silent leaf
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not napoleon, who the fuck searched an island again

split maple
plush gulch
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im french

silent leaf
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im sorry for you

plush gulch
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you mean guy

silent leaf
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i mean its just reality check

tight plinth
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that explains a lot

silent leaf
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you are DISCOVERING an uncharted territory

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you are the first one to be there

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if your asking it to someone

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they wont ever know besides the fucking basics

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its like fucking

plush gulch
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guys im so lucky

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im tearing up

hybrid harness
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be honest though

silent leaf
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ok yea im out of analogies

plush gulch
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game, food, saving up for later plans like appartment

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i won't tell him though they are a bot trying to scam me

tight plinth
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is there any phrecia ascendancy good for mine/traps?

silent leaf
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surfcaster no?

whole bluff
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prolly surf, scavenger, then idk

hybrid harness
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ps mines was played on scav I believe

silent leaf
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also

split maple
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scav should be reliable

silent leaf
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whats the other one

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+2 proj sahdow

split maple
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maybe blind prophet just for nimis?

silent leaf
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theres a nimis there?

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also yea blind prophet

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+2 proj and nimis

whole bluff
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that can prolly magma orb

split maple
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"Projectiles have 50% chance to Return to you
Projectiles are fired in random directions"

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yea thats what i am thinking

silent leaf
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yea rolling magma

split maple
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just pretend its called sabo

silent leaf
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like current sabo

#

lmao

whole bluff
#

but isnt first node rip

silent leaf
#

goratha gaming

split maple
whole bluff
#

but isnt it just crit chance with weapons

split maple
#

yea its dead node

#

but it isnt like sabo has more than 2 good nodes too lol

haughty ermine
plush gulch
#

sounds like an abyssus build

tight plinth
#

damn son

normal hedge
#

abyssus dont have 50k phys max hit

plush gulch
#

it's rare to see more phys max hit

split maple
#

now thats something i dont see every day

plush gulch
#

what

split maple
#

thats the rarest tempering enchant

plush gulch
#

I had no idea this existed

#

it should be worth mirrors

#

maybe?

normal hedge
#

no lol

haughty ermine
#

at least a dozen!!

#

in ssf

whole bluff
#

not on that base, plus not enough potential

normal hedge
#

sushi used it to craft something this league, he wasted a lot to get it lol

plush gulch
#

you could get like triple ele flat and ele pen

#

i think it's a prefix

whole bluff
#

but bench mods are lower

normal hedge
#

...

split maple
#

like for 9+l weapons and shit

plush gulch
#

oh

whole bluff
#

bench mods usually equate to like t4 or something I think?

native token
#

hello my friends

lucid gale
whole bluff
#

hello ssf man with magebloods

silent leaf
split maple
#

hi casie

native token
#

is phercia yay or nay

silent leaf
#

hits can't be evaded

split maple
#

yay

plush gulch
# normal hedge ...

i was thinking the base matter less if you go for ele dmg on the weapon instead of relying on phys

whole bluff
#

yay

silent leaf
#

yay

plush gulch
#

then beside ele pen idk what was insane

native token
#

i might skip it

#

i playd to much in 3.28 and poe2

plush gulch
#

yay

silent leaf
#

sword ele pen is kinda bad no?

whole bluff
#

not good for ssf

silent leaf
#

i never seen anyone use it kek

split maple
#

you saying that now but then you will have bis rogue exile idols on day2 casie

plush gulch
split maple
#

or whatever will be hot now

native token
plush gulch
#

but if you have all the flat

native token
#

i need to recover forces for 3.29

tight plinth
#

do jewels count as "equipped"?

plush gulch
#

maybe better prefixes exist i don't know them by heart

split maple
tight plinth
#

balls

coral summit
#

does squalling tulgraft still give +1 tornadoes to actual tornado/tornado of elemental turbulence for some reason, or did that ever get fixed?

ancient sorrel
#

what is harbringer ascendency meant for?
i wonder how to play around hrb38 and 31: max life / mana as extra chaos + es / mana recovery rate

any ideas for me?

coral summit
#

oooh

split maple
#

okay at least for tornado, didnt try with trans one 😄

coral summit
#

okay i'm probably gonna run bog witch tornado of elemental turbulence then

ancient sorrel
plush gulch
lucid gale
#

All the node names are in the Harbinger language, some planners might show the underlying art ID.

plush gulch
#

they don't talk harbinger there

lucid gale
#

I think the wiki made up some reasonable names.

coral summit
#

mind you i'm not sure 3 weeks is enough time to buy four 1p voices on phrecia lmao

golden phoenix
#

Good morning zao.

coral summit
#

for this tree i'm messing with

lucid gale
#

Morrn morrn.

plush gulch
# ancient sorrel

i have no idea tbh you have corrupted soul and stuff some half life hald es build but you don't use recharge in those I think

#

I guess you could try to scale es recharge rate

ancient sorrel
#

es and mana recovery make me think about MoM / archmage thing for mana
es ? ..

plush gulch
#

and take the ininterrupted recharge

plush gulch
#

seems a bit weak to build around it

normal hedge
#

flat, pen and crafted hits cannot be evaded is the meta for most slayer builds wym

#

besides 12l setup

silent leaf
#

uh which build

#

i legit never seen anyone use it on ninja usually

pulsar dune
#

this frost blades for example

split maple
#

em slayer insert attack of choice build

normal hedge
#

ls, divine smite, frost blades

split maple
#

like its rly generic

normal hedge
#

any non phys build

plush gulch
#

wans't there molten strike also ?

silent leaf
#

ok yea nvm its 3rd

#

i just didnt see the ones using them ig

plush gulch
#

or any attack stuff like smite

plush gulch
#

where are claw gone

normal hedge
#

rakiatas + triple purity is also pretty good but i enjoy block too much

silent leaf
#

im only including two handed swords

split maple
#

and even if you dont use smite as main skill, you can slap it somewhere for aura

silent leaf
#

the search was two handed sword only

plush gulch
#

so you can not feel bad about losing your shield

normal hedge
#

the issue is most people rather have a real ammy and non conditional defensive layers

plush gulch
#

you have this example of rakiata tainted pact

#

damn he is using flicker strike

normal hedge
#

bloodsoak blade tainted pact is a nice combo

kindred silo
#

is that a replica abyssus i see on my screen

pulsar dune
#

replica abyssus is crazy

plush gulch
#

he went all in

#

xD

#

I mean with divine flesh it's only half as bad

pulsar dune
#

yea, it's not actually that bad

plush gulch
#

the biggest thing is he has crazy stack of poison on him

#

and get healed full several ttime in a server tick

#

so only real one shot get to him

kindred silo
#

well u can only get healed once a server tick

plush gulch
#

I mean several time his life pool

#

maybe it's more clear

#

from what I know these builds have that kind of healing

normal hedge
#

not using sap of the seasons in that setup seems a waste

kindred silo
#

sap of seasons + rakiatas?

rich widget
#

what are god strags to run with idols yo?

kindred silo
#

isnt that redundant

plush gulch
#

for me ele pen is such a nebulous mecanic

kindred silo
normal hedge
rich widget
finite quail
split pagoda
#

big fan of that setup

finite quail
#

you'll know what strats are good once patchnotes come out

#

be patient

hard cliff
#

@finite quail

#

I got an insane build concept for paladin

#

sword and board

kindred silo
#

i mean its really hard to say if a strat will be good or not even if they give all the information in patch notes

hard cliff
#

with curse on hit shield swipe

finite quail
#

Sure its not gonna be 100% accurate because there have been loot changes and such, but its useful info

normal hedge
#

not configurated and no idea if this person can handle 200 stacks but sap of the seasons is the main reason to use bloadsoaked imo

finite quail
normal hedge
#

its just 6k degen

finite quail
#

not realistic

normal hedge
#

very realistic

finite quail
#

no, not really

#

thats moreso pob warrioring

hard cliff
#

+Smite

normal hedge
#

its very realistic

hard cliff
normal hedge
#

most builds cannot farm t17s in 2 minutes

finite quail
#

You are entitled to your opinion

#

I disagree

normal hedge
#

i was farming scarabs in t17s in 3m per map with pbod

finite quail
normal hedge
#

they dont do that

#

wtf u're talking about

#

you dont just wait

finite quail
#

Exactly

normal hedge
#

you press it and go play

finite quail
#

So why are you marking it as max stacks anyways if its only gonna be like that for a minority of the map

#

Do an average amount

kindred silo
#

alsoo sap of seasons is quite a lot of effort to make work

normal hedge
#

thats not the point

finite quail
#

Not the point yeah

#

If you acn make it work, you use it

normal hedge
#

idc about that i'm talking about using a shitty magic tincture

kindred silo
#

well there is an oppertunity cost

normal hedge
#

instead of sap of the seasons

#

when you have the setup for it

plush gulch
#

this looks very good though is it that shitty ?

normal hedge
#

yea

plush gulch
#

I see

normal hedge
#

compared to what you could do

pulsar dune
#

I mean, 46% AS is really good

#

and IG they need it to cap crit

hard cliff
#

could you play paladin as a minion build?

plush gulch
#

yes I did

pulsar dune
normal hedge
#

even at 100 stacks sap of the seasons already better

#

or 60

plush gulch
pulsar dune
#

but yea, a lot of the paladin is also mainly ally based

hard cliff
pulsar dune
#

should be pretty solid, yea

#

AG is a bit broken

plush gulch
#

seems a better guardian

hard cliff
pulsar dune
#

IG 60% pen at -80 res is a lot of more damage still huh

plush gulch
#

omg piragon talked to me

#

👀

#

I thought i was blocked

finite quail
pulsar dune
#

what do ppl do on AG before affording voidforge actually

finite quail
#

they give their ag a little kiss as a treat

hard cliff
silent leaf
#

no

finite quail
#

no

plush gulch
finite quail
hard cliff
plush gulch
#

idk all I know is everytime people want a cheap weapon they use rebuke of the vaal

pulsar dune
#

for any decent weapon really that isn't a (realistically tempering orbed) whole ass voidforge

#

that sword is pretty expensive

#

and you can't resell it once it goes on AG

plush gulch
#

let's go

modest depot
coral summit
#

huh, i'm pleasantly surprised that cremation of the volcano's single target isn't dogshit

hard cliff
#

does ag have good enough ai to not just wander around before hitting packs

modest depot
#

no 3 link until act 3

pulsar dune
#

it's afaik fine-ish

modest depot
#

faustus broke

pulsar dune
#

builds that run multiple minions are probably also viable on paladin, and would be less prone to AI messes

modest depot
#

item drops broke

#

game is bad\

hard cliff
pulsar dune
#

yea, specters will be really good

hard cliff
#

six link herald of purity with the reserve limit chest

finite quail
pulsar dune
#

HoP is interesting

hard cliff
#

you might could use worm jar to start it?

coral summit
#

or worm rings

hard cliff
#

yeah either

whole bluff
#

i gt check herald, might play that if it plays nice with lycia

hard cliff
#

I hope herald gets some buffs it's a cool concept

tight plinth
#

herald of purity herald seems decent, i got to around 7m ish dps i think, not very tanky tho

whole bluff
#

lmao, first node on herald does it's best to force your herald into your 6L

#

for lycia things

tight plinth
#

maybe if i went blue life exaltThink

tight plinth
#

herald

hard cliff
#

neat

#

7 mil not horrible

tight plinth
#

used foulborn geofris

whole bluff
#

I forgot phrecia herald was such a mess

coral summit
#

can anyone think of any ways to get -fire damage taken from hits other than synth rings or formless flame?

hard cliff
#

what's the foul geofris do I don't see it on the wiki

tight plinth
#

+sentinels

coral summit
#

trying to figure out if I don't have to eat my second ring slot to make dissolution+enmity's work together

tight plinth
#

i think +3

hard cliff
opaque wing
#

That's not real, it was just datamined but isn't in the game

hard cliff
#

ohh this one

tight plinth
#

lmao

hard cliff
tight plinth
#

is this guy

gritty garnet
#

I was also livesearching for the 50 movespeed lioneye's paws that didn't exist

opaque wing
#

Hover the red bug icon

tight plinth
#

oh kek

#

well could just do the double minion helm

#

same thing

meager pagoda
#

hello shippers. is this the correct way to send a 17.5 mil shipment? im sending it to kaalguur in hopes of a mirror shard.

short prairie
whole bluff
fierce rock
modest depot
#

shadow fire caster leveling is so shit too

potent horizon
#

I made a mistake and bought a sentinels of purity dark monarch and was wondering why my specters weren't doubled

modest depot
#

why does shadow not have access to 90% of the gem

potent horizon
#

Took me way too long

short prairie
#

Just play flicker strike

#

Trust me

vast pier
#

how much would you price this ?

tight plinth
potent horizon
#

Do you think flicker can be a good trigger skill the way cyclone is for COC

#

Or too risky

vast pier
short prairie
whole bluff
#

if herald stays as is, I prolly play literally anything else lul

brazen vector
hard cliff
normal hedge
#

he said ty before reading the channel

haughty ermine
#

they usually do

tight plinth
#

if creator is using mobalytics, maxroll etc to give pob, i pass kek

#

i aint going to another website to see a build

fierce rock
#

i only trust ms paint build guides

potent horizon
#

I can get behind that

#

Power point presentation builds

tight plinth
#

if it doesnt have a white background ms paint, i pass

whole bluff
#

I only trust build guides on tuesdays

potent horizon
#

Dark theme MS paint isn't real you're making that up right

brazen vector
modest depot
tight plinth
#

can you sandstorm visage this? 🤔

brazen vector
whole bluff
#

afaik no

brazen vector
#

Free farruls fur and aspect

whole bluff
#

slayer doesnt work with it afaik

tight plinth
#

balls

whole bluff
#

anyway

shrewd rock
finite quail
#

Not "critical strike chance of weapons is 12%"

shrewd rock
#

if you read it it answers your question lmao

brazen vector
#

Attack skill gems now have a base crit chance of 12¥

#

12%&

#

12%*

whole bluff
#

12pi%

#

radians

brazen vector
#

Tree(12)

whole bluff
#

that is a lot

brazen vector
#

Crit capped

whole bluff
#

iirc

brazen vector
#

Ezpz

meager pagoda
plush gulch
#

guys did you try forbidden rite self cast ?

#

how was it ?

wispy comet
#

if you have "all damage can poison vined targets" from daughter of oshabi does that include damage from graft abilities?

whole bluff
#

shouldnt, grafts are idk

#

prolly like a minion on your back

#

but not a minion

whole bluff
#

grafts are prolly best considered an NPC on your back

wispy comet
#

was just curious because the wording is "all damage inflicts poison" which i haven't seen elsewhere

whole bluff
#

that should probably say "all your damage inflicts poison", as a quality of your dmg vs vined targets, not a debuff added to the vine effect

#

though idk for sure

tight plinth
#

eater boots says it only affects the wearer

#

so its probably the same thing

finite quail
#

just because you have the boots on doesn't mean party members will get the effect

wispy comet
#

fair

finite quail
#

Its always player specific unless otherwise stated

whole bluff
#

when I was new, I tried to use minions cuz hidden potential

#

didnt know global dmg isnt for minions

#

though now it seems intuitive you could have "minion fire dmg" and that would work while "fire dmg" wouldnt /shrug

#

but only if the minion did fire

fierce rock
whole bluff
fierce rock
#

poe is just one of those games where i doubt there is anyone, or at least very many people, who truly understand every aspect

whole bluff
#

I remember when I was new and started to really think about ignite and I was like "wtf no way, but it has to, no way, seriously though? no way"

#

then I learned about double dipping

livid quarry
#

even ggg doesnt doesnt truly understand every aspect

fierce rock
#

as evidenced by quite a few patches

whole bluff
#

xD

hard cliff
#

How's retirment Cena ?

fierce rock
#

hell, they didn't even understand the newest league mechanic in poe2, with the buff, then nerf, then buff, then nerf hotfixes

fierce rock
hard cliff
hard cliff
fierce rock
#

i don't keep up on sumo i just know it's awesome

hard cliff
#

Patrician sport

#

I don't keep up with the tournaments but I do occasionally watch em

pulsar dune
#

But like, he won with off meta before

fierce rock
pulsar dune
#

Against meta on experience alone

hard cliff
silent leaf
#

ok chat, maybe slammers

#

does that work

fierce rock
#

i'm a big fan of minErs

silent leaf
#

witch slammers

#

without golem multiplier buffs

pulsar dune
#

Wdym?

hard cliff
split maple
#

i did elementalist earthshatter legstart and while aoe is good enough to kill for, issue is dmg scaling if you cannot go crit

#

to go crit you need absolute ass fleshripper craft

silent leaf
#

no this

split maple
#

good enough for 4voids

#

without golems idk man not worth

normal hedge
#

tbh that part isnt the op part

hard cliff
lone night
split maple
#

you rly want at least flame and ice golems

hard cliff
pulsar dune
#

Slam witch pathing is probably a bit too terrible

lone night
#

i am the golem i dont need any other

pulsar dune
#

No accuracy masteries and no rt for a very long time

split maple
#

lemme find my tree it was beautiful

finite quail
pulsar dune
#

And manually resummoning the golems

silent leaf
hard cliff
#

Whose good on slams for phrecia besides marauder stuff ?

silent leaf
#

i did this for banners

#

lmao

finite quail
#

and use your big big brain

silent leaf
#

before i realize i can just run AG

#

and not resummon golems

hard cliff
silent leaf
#

then i got too hungry for sockets

#

and ditched it

hard cliff
#

Ascendascies don't matter if you don't have every single unique combination memorized

#

and I don't

#

....yet

split maple
#

you rly need liege

pulsar dune
#

Oh yeah you can't even take the golem cluster

#

That's cooked

hard cliff
#

You can f/f it but good luck affording that

#

or it existing

pulsar dune
#

Nah, golem cluster on tree

split maple
#

ffing liege for slammer sounds super bad investment kek

pulsar dune
#

Near hex master

hard cliff
#

Ahhhh fair

split maple
#

like build is shite after 4voids in best case

pulsar dune
#

Nightgrip
Replica trypanon
Antiquarian
2 ward nodes
HCBE
Far shot
Sunblast
Spectral throw of trarthus

LOGIN

#

I guess you'd want an attack speed skill huh

#

Nevermind

hard cliff
#

but SEND IT

#

--
Gain Added Chaos Damage equal to 10% of Ward
75% of Damage taken bypasses Ward

Ward bypass LOG IN

pulsar dune
#

Yeah ward is just for damage in this setup

hard cliff
#

That seems like an insane amount of chaos damge bro

#

100% global defenses

pulsar dune
#

Honestly if you can get some flat trypanon with one of trarthan traps is probably just straight up a real league build

hard cliff
#

what the hell is HCBE

gritty garnet
#

only time I've gotten that to work was with mercenaries

pulsar dune
#

Antiquarian node

#

Bypasses the replica trypanon downside

modern zinc
#

I want to play a build that deletes the entire screen in a single shot and doesn't die no matter what hits it

hard cliff
#

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

this seems like a lot of work just do an attack build lol

pulsar dune
#

100% crit tho

pulsar dune
#

The issue is that 1.25 base APS is still just kinda bad

#

Which is why I originally wanted a trap

hard cliff
#

Replica Trypanon is a unique Great MalletGreat MalletTwo Hand MacePhysical Damage: 43-88Critical Strike Chance: 5.00%Attacks per Second: 1.25Weapon Range: 1.3 metresRequires Level 40, 131 Str30% increased Stun Duration on Enemies. It is the replica version of TrypanonTrypanonGreat MalletTwo Hand MacePhysical Damage: 43-88Critical Strike Chance: ...

pulsar dune
#

But then I could just play normal trypanon

hard cliff
#

ohhh Spectral Throw of Trarthus
is already a trap

#

that's conveniant

#

I see the vision

#

Fuck it send it I'd play this if the uniques are cheap

pulsar dune
#

What's a good attack that's going to feel good with 1.25 base APS

#

Cyclone

modern zinc
#

flicker?

pulsar dune
#

Well, cyclone is one of the two

#

IDK if I can fit flicker, wardstack and 50% reduced dex into the same build NGL

kindred silo
#

or gen cry

#

frozen sweep or something like that

pulsar dune
#

I'd ideally want something that scales with attack speed

#

IG I could just play a normal build and force soul eater ring

kindred silo
#

then just slams

hard cliff
#

Where are you getting 50% reduced dex

kindred silo
#

antiquarian

hard cliff
#

FROZEN SWEEP LOG IN

pulsar dune
#

Frozen legion would be good with normal trypanon tbh

hard cliff
#

wow this is dogshit

#

don't take this

pulsar dune
#

How bad is spectral throw?

hard cliff
#

wtf

kindred silo
hexed mountain
#

the attack speed might make it really clunky on trypanon

#

like mobs running out of the frozen legion before it hits

pulsar dune
#

That's fair

hard cliff
#

take these + precise technique + I dunno some bloodline stuff somewhere

(cats?)

hexed mountain
#

the foulborn mace seems nice fo double damage and 10% base crit

hard cliff
#

you can't do cats cause no crit

#

rip

pulsar dune
#

Far shot is very tempting to abuse, so IG spectral throw it is.

hard cliff
#

@pulsar dune
Tell me if this build concept is stupid (it is )

Unleash boost bloodline

Unleashed Six link blade volley (or variation) for mob clear and unleashed six link blade blast for tougher mobs and bosses alternating each

kindred silo
#

u would probably go 2 5l

surreal musk
kindred silo
#

but its gonna be pretty shitty playstyle

hard cliff
#

why 5 links ?

pulsar dune
kindred silo
#

so u dont need two entire 6l setups

#

ik someone did something like that this league

pulsar dune
#

IG no jugg node, fair

kindred silo
#

i dont remember who

surreal musk
#

600m dps is pretty bad

hard cliff
#

I bet i could find it on poe ninja

#

I should just look up unleash builds in general

pulsar dune
#

You really don't need a lot of blade blasts

hard cliff
#

Is blade blast even worth playing ?

pulsar dune
#

Yea, tho it's usually arca brand bladefall

#

And you selfcast blade blast

#

It's actually kinda good

#

Mainly a bossing setup

#

Damn, molten strike is the only red projectile Mace attack

hexed mountain
#

its kinda decent on herald ascendancy

#

i played BF BB on herald last phrecia

#

got to T16s on very bad gear

pulsar dune
#

1.25 APS MSOZ is a warcrime tho

hard cliff
#

BRANDS

#

😩

kindred silo
hard cliff
#

I guess bladefall damage doesn't matter

kindred silo
#

2 of the same skill

hard cliff
#

Why can't you use bladefall of tarthus to create a rain of blades to always have something to blow up

pulsar dune
#

You can

#

But blade blast is really really fast

#

So for single target you want to do something more elaborate

hexed mountain
#

bladefall did enough damage to clear packs tbh

#

even some rares

hard cliff
#

I mean I played Frostblink ignite + Explosive trap of blasting

#

something close to that would be cool cause that build was super fun

kindred silo
#

also how does the unleash bloodline interact with bv

hard cliff
#

Would you be stretched too thin on sockets to use tarthus bladefall + brand bladefall on boss + bladeblast ?

pulsar dune
pulsar dune
kindred silo
#

is that a guess or has that been tested?

hard cliff
#

Why does this phrecia event only have one good caster ascendascy bro (bog witch)

pulsar dune
#

Surfcaster

#

That's about it tho

kindred silo
#

also scion

hard cliff
#

Ain't no way I am affording 300 div for a weapon

pulsar dune
#

Surely rods aren't 300d, but it's strong even without rod

kindred silo
#

rods r farmable right

split maple
#

paladin could be funky caster, tho worse than surfy for sure

hard cliff
#

I got a rod for you

split maple
hard cliff
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Why grain gate

hexed mountain
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scavenger is good at casting (because its good at everything)

split maple
hexed mountain
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elementalist ah class

hard cliff
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Scavenger is probably gonna be most affected by patch notes I am not even trying to theorycraft on her till they drop

hexed mountain
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yeah scav BP ancestral commander and whisperer most likely getting a nerf

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and architect a node change due to overlap