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[elfin shale]

Oh thats not so bad

[pliant hamlet]

yup 0.033 mb

[elfin shale]

I thought itd be more complicated lol

Do you round up 0.99 to 1

[proud gorge]

no

[elfin shale]

THATS annoying

[proud gorge]

so the tick breakpoints are 0.033, 0.066, 0.099, 0.132, 0.165, 0.198, etc

[elfin shale]

I should be able to do Expected Cooldown / 0.033 = Cooldown in # Of Ticks + 1 * 0.033 = Actual Cooldown right?

[proud gorge]

where'd you get the +1 from

[elfin shale]

Cuz it rounds to the next 0.033 interval

[pliant hamlet]

If you had 0 tics, you'd just fire it every single frame

[proud gorge]

that's more of a ceiling function

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/QgcpQ4f-eoU

[elfin shale]

Oh wait so +2?
And only +1 if its already frame perfect

[proud gorge]

but yeah, point being, you need your real cooldown to be less than or equal to the server tick breakpoint

it's not possible to hit 0 cooldown

the math on Cooldown Recovery speed doesn't allow for it

that would require infinite Cooldown Recovery Speed

[elfin shale]

And then i want my attack time to be cooldown rate + >0.033 right?

[pliant hamlet]

expected cooldown/ 0.033 = ⌈x⌉

[proud gorge]

you want your attack time to be either equal to or lower than your cooldown rate

[elfin shale]

Attack Time higher, Attack Rate lower, right?

Attack Time lower would cause you to skip cooldowns

[proud gorge]

so if your cooldown is up every 5 server ticks (a fairly standard number), you want to be hitting either every 5 server ticks, or more

ah yeah, the other way

[pliant hamlet]

You want your attack time to be equal or higher, wdym lower?
If your CDR is .99s, and you attack at .98s, your proc rates would be: 0, (no proc), 1.96

[proud gorge]

got attack time and attack rate mixed up

[elfin shale]

Cool cool

I wish i was home, i want to PoB this and i dont know what id search to get results for this and not mana manip Snipe

[tight plinth]

"All Damage inflicts Poison while affected by Glorious Madness" this means any type and 100% chance right?

[proud gorge]

wait, what are you building?

something Snipe-related?

[pliant hamlet]

CD/0.033 = ⌈x⌉, ⌈x⌉ * 0.033 = real cooldown.

[elfin shale]

Basically using Snipe's insane attack speed to proc MFA super fast

[pliant hamlet]

if you're gonna use a script to do it, you can just do ⌈cd/0.033⌉, pretty sure that'd work or just a round up function

[proud gorge]

interesting. So no mana manip, just holding down Snipe to trigger other things?

[spice pecan]

yes

[elfin shale]

Yup

Brb

You can do multiple MFAs too

[proud gorge]

you're gonna need a lot of mana cost lmao

[pliant hamlet]

gl managing the health cost lol

[proud gorge]

I assume this is going to be a Rain of Arrows LGoH angle

Saturation, even

[spice pecan]

RoA of saturation prob good

[pliant hamlet]

could use like a 99.x% snipe setup, where snipe consumes 100% of your mana, and you instantly-regenerate it via mgoh

[proud gorge]

yeah that's mana manip snipe

but they said they're not going for that

[pliant hamlet]

oh it's a build?

[proud gorge]

yeah

designed to exploit Snipe's insane attack speed

[barren river]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-over-gif-5721510543785152669

[pliant hamlet]

Got a vid? seems interesting

[proud gorge]

I've seen people set it up before, I'm not sure what to type into google to find an actual build

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6y6O_AZFgU oh wtf lol

[proud gorge]

that's the demo video yeah

not sure if there's an actual build associated with it

[elfin shale]

Itll be what, 300 life a second most likely? Thats manageable

And for the skill i was gonna do either Scourge Arrow of The Menace or Toxic Rain of Sporeburst i was thinking

[elfin shale]

Yeah its evil. Mainly a meme but works in theory

[elfin shale]

Far less if i find a way besides lifetap to make MFA a life cost (Architect of Chaos would work but bow templar is a bit too jank too add to an already jank build imo)

[pulsar dune]

wow, is snipe support just generically good on bow builds if you can set this tech up?

I thought it'd work out to a DPS loss, but it doesn't seem to be the case

[elfin shale]

The one im talking about or mana manip?

[pulsar dune]

mana manip

[elfin shale]

Yeah its just good if you can deal with setup

[modern zinc]

I want to play a build that's so tanky it can tank ubers

[pulsar dune]

fross maybe

[elfin shale]

Armour Stacker would be my go-to

[proud gorge]

oh yeah side note, while my Foulborn Kitava's Thirst setup can spontaneously break, it can also spontaneously unbreak

[pulsar dune]

you get to just build absurd amounts of ES

[potent horizon]

I need to be able to get up and walk away from my desk and come back to finish the Uber

[pulsar dune]

arm stack is not tanky anymore, no?

[spice pecan]

armor stackers arent even that tanky

you dont actually have a large es pool

[pulsar dune]

unless you divest from arm stacking into defenses

[proud gorge]

if enough Soulrend projectiles hit to kick me over the boundary

[elfin shale]

Maybe im mistaken i thought it was pretty good at it

[pulsar dune]

not since armor applies to ele was effectively removed from the game

[elfin shale]

Oh true Jugg got the gut punch

[pulsar dune]

IG maybe the flawed refuge divine flesh 4th wov jugg armor stackers would tank ubers handily if you fix regen

[split pagoda]

Yeah fross would be a good one, probably high investment AC can get there aswell cuz of how insane that ascendancy is

[brazen vector]

[pulsar dune]

people delve on those setups IIRC

or well, some variant thereof

[spice pecan]

[brazen vector]

[proud gorge]

depends how expensive/cheap you want the uber tanking setup to be

there's always that one Jugg build that can facetank ubers on like 1 div budget

[elfin shale]

If i have Bow Skill - Same Bow Skill - MFA, do they proc at the same time from MFA?

[proud gorge]

but its damage is nonexistent

[pulsar dune]

yea, specifically for ubers doing flawed refuge/divine flesh is really really good

since ubers have pen to the wall

but dots are a little screwed on that setup

[proud gorge]

each skill linked to MFA will independently trigger when your mana spent on other bow skills exceeds 3x their mana cost

[elfin shale]

I just wanted to make sure having the same skill twice in one MFA link didnt screw things up, good to hear

[pulsar dune]

same skill twice should mean they end up sharing CD unless their CD would be different afaik

[proud gorge]

but yeah, this is one of those cases where I remember that MFA, like most trigger gems, is a support gem

so it doesn't trigger linked skills, it grants the property "triggers when 3x this skill's mana cost is spent on other bow skills" to each linked bow skill

[elfin shale]

Oh thats why it can CoC. Weird

Or can it CoC because it cant support spells

[proud gorge]

I mean, that's technically how every trigger support works

it just grants a trigger property to the linked skill

[fringe idol]

Why do some builds want an incredibly high curse limit? Isn't each curse limited to 1?

[proud gorge]

sure, but you can apply multiple different curses to an enemy

[pulsar dune]

poison can benefit from despair and tempchains and sometimes a mark, at which point you may as well just throw on enfeeble and such

[proud gorge]

like my FRoSS build, with a curse limit of 3, applies Despair, Temporal Chains, and Punishment

[pulsar dune]

oh yea, punishment is also generically good

[elfin shale]

And sometimes builds get a massive curse limit ie through anathema and dont actually use them all

[fringe idol]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/Sheo97-6170/EnergieLadungsStapler?i=0&search=skills%3D!Lightning%2BStrike%252CSmite%2Bof%2BDivine%2BJudgement%26max-mequip%3D0%26min-ehp%3D50000%26min-physicalmax%3D25000%26sort%3Ddps%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cmequip%252Cphysicalmax%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill Is there a way to make this build work now that the boots are changed or is it kinda pointless without the boots

[brazen vector]

Peak name

[karmic gust]

generating frenzies and pcs on attacks is easy regardless

so the nerfed boots shouldnt rly matter

[dusky void]

oh that looks close to immortality or am i wrong?

[patent glacier]

Alguno habla español?

Nececito consejos

Tngo un templario

[karmic gust]

thats not rly immortal, but its decent defense

[dusky void]

i have defiance from commander divine shield armour es mastery for 5% es on phys hit 30% recoup that should be nearly unbeatable sustain

[modern zinc]

gets oneshot by a random blue mob on a blue t14 map

[karmic gust]

i usually play pathfinders that are way tankier than that and with more recovery and they still die in maps

[dusky void]

oh and thats uber pinnacle stats

[karmic gust]

that barely changes anything if you are not stacking max reses

[modern zinc]

are you using a shield?

I feel like you can't really be ultra tanky without a shield

[karmic gust]

you can, some shields just make it easier

[dusky void]

yes rathpithe but why cant you become tanky without a shield

[modern zinc]

because shields are a very defensive oriented piece of gear

they help a lot with not dying

[karmic gust]

you can get defenses elsewhere

and theres a lot of shields that provide no defenses

like ratpith

[dusky void]

yeah i use that

[tight plinth]

everyone knows youre tanky when you got a shield, look at anime, shield guy = tanky guy

[dusky void]

it gives alot of max life and spell block tho

[modern zinc]

I guess totems are pretty tanky? I could go HP + MoM + ES

[spice pecan]

its the playstyle that makes totem builds "tanky" mostly

[karmic gust]

mom builds arent very tanky

and yea totems are mostly just safe

[dusky void]

but thats the tankiest herald stacker i saw i looked on yt for a long time couldnt find herald stackers that were tanky had very good dps and had the nearly autobomber 5 herald feeling

[stoic horizon]

you didnt use the p charge keystone so you can safely just use pcharge ralakesh and generate frenzies and endus somehow yourself

[karmic gust]

well you are looking at clear builds

[modern zinc]

oh, totems don't benefit from archmage

not good to go mom then

[karmic gust]

so the tankiest clear build can still not be super tanky

[stoic horizon]

yeah that would be op

[dusky void]

MOM builds can get very high inflated max hit but not very good sustain yeah

[spice pecan]

tatiantel builds totems as manastackers with mom for defense/arcane cloak for damage, something to consider

[karmic gust]

yea with guard skill up as that is the only good defense they usually have

[elfin shale]

@golden phoenix

Is this you? Lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/lJzY0p6x0T

[modern zinc]

(it's bad) kekw

[dusky void]

i want good alrounders and i think i managed to make smth good nearly 20mil uber pinnacle dps i hope in phercia i can just run thru maps pressing no buttons and than just lazy bossing standing around facetanking 99% of stuff and still having very high dps

and the aoe is sick oriaths end and heralds should be able to blast many screens

[modern zinc]

how many radius is that

[strong totem]

It's funny because the mom ascendancy doesn't really use mom

[dusky void]

thats oriaths end very good i would say withnot crazy high invest into aoe

[modern zinc]

honestly yeah that's pretty big

[dusky void]

in keepers league i tried aegis power charge stacking herald stacker occultist to get aoe from power charges dmg from power charges and tank with ES and armour but i couldnt push it to a point where i had good dmg tank and clear either my clear was lacking a bit or dps just was too low or i couldnt tank enough but ancestral comander with 3end charges 50% phys taken as fire and mini defiance than arns anguish for alot of dmg sounds like a very good ascendancy for what i want to do

[spice pecan]

that was a very long sentence]

[spice pecan]

consecrated path of endurance, my beloved

[opal ingot]

woa

[modern zinc]

minions are hella fun but I can't stand their AI

[elfin shale]

Is there a unique that isnt a weapon that converts Socketed gem costs to Life or supports them with Lifetap besides Shako?

[frigid wedge]

can eat 1 hit up to its max and then u gotta wait for it to come back

olroth bloodline lets u get 5% chance to restore it on hit

ie u can refresh it repeatedly

[tight plinth]

isnt there that fb chest with 29 added chaos

[potent horizon]

I've never looked into bloodlines I should check them out

[tight plinth]

whats its face

[devout widget]

whats the most flexible class? as in which class has the most spell, melee, ranged versatility

[tight plinth]

wait no, its blood magic nvm

[spice pecan]

all

[elfin shale]

Yeah BM kills the build unfortunately

[split maple]

elementalist

[elfin shale]

Foulborn Covenant was my initial idea

[spice pecan]

i was about to suggest the bloodmagic helm

sadge

[modern zinc]

necromancer is probably the least flexible class

you play minions or DD and that's it

[spice pecan]

nah, scion is the least imo

[split maple]

kboc necro was hella popular this leg

[gritty epoch]

nah

[opal ingot]

minions and corpse pact

(my build knowledge is very limited)

[devout widget]

i have heard about three ascendancies - Champion (defensive, but ok offence) Trickster (anything ES) and Pathfinder (Flask buffs)

[opal ingot]

its hella good and i took it for granted

[gritty epoch]

berserker is the least imo

[spice pecan]

scion has 4 builds, one is only for group play and the other is too expensive to play, and the third one is a deadge meme build, so that leaves literally relic of the pact

[split maple]

bers on budget is just slammers, on highbudget you can add wands and strstack to it ig

but yeah kinda not flexible

[opal ingot]

it just has the unfortunate low ceiling but if you're not a giga tryhard that shit doesn't matter

[fringe idol]

Is endurance charge stacking good this league?

[split maple]

gaming

[tight plinth]

most flexible right now is probably elementalist, slap on a skill and itll probably work

[split pagoda]

u mean kboc necro? I think that could be scaled fairly high tbh

[spice pecan]

i think champion is also relatively flexible, trickster probably still is too

[tight plinth]

oh yeah those two are very flexible as well

[opal ingot]

idk but from what i looked at, past 2 mirrors there's not a lot of upgrades you can do

like 2 mirrors worth

[split maple]

once you go highbudget hiero > necro imo

aoe and es matter

[opal ingot]

not for int stacking elementalists or kboc hiero where the sky is the limit

[split maple]

on midbudget necro is faster tho

[opal ingot]

definitely

[fallow fern]

is this decent for 5 div budget

[spice pecan]

looks good

[split pagoda]

Ya thats fair just gotta respec once u reach that point, like kboc necro is still a great build for gigablasters

[tight plinth]

isnt this just straight up a downgrade?

[fallow fern]

i think it means this?

like this wont work

but no idea

[potent horizon]

I'm always baffled when I see Poe ninja builds and they are sitting on 4000 int

[fallow fern]

always makes me wonder

how they do that

[split maple]

mostly clusters

for like 2k range

above that its lil magic tricks like hunter helm, boudn by destiny, good jewels

[potent horizon]

I can't tell if they are real builds or goals/min maxed dreams

Maybe a mix

[split maple]

check ssf ladder tho also there top few guys are in like 4k range

[fallow fern]

well i saw a 3.6k int with 0 resistances

[split maple]

i wouldnt play accustack under 2k int for sure tho

[fallow fern]

so some are prob just min m axing

[potent horizon]

But I like using them as reference and seeing combos like certain uniques that always go together

[devout widget]

I was thinking of a class that i can play on standard, but since its poe, patches destroy builds, so i can change into other stuff, if the class is versatile

[split pagoda]

Cheapest «stacker» build is probably ES with energy blade

Its pretty nice this league with tree providing big es stuff easily

[proud gorge]

FRoSS is good also, though in a fresh league Whispers of Infinity is going to be a bit harder to acquire

[split maple]

i rly liked kboc in ssf

ask treetree for gear, blast

ask treetree for hh, blast harder

[split pagoda]

Oh yeah fross can also be considered a stacker ig lol

[spice pecan]

i will say campaign and early mapping on str/intstack eblade is pretty bad

[proud gorge]

it's the same kind of stacker as eblade lmao

[spice pecan]

until you can swap to ivory tower and coc

[proud gorge]

if anything it's better since eblade takes a penalty to max energy shield

[split maple]

gaming #2

[spice pecan]

wtff

[split pagoda]

Ya I mean more after youve farmed t16 for awhile for good es bases, and was thinking smite or smth rather than the inquis stuff

[split maple]

first 16 wings no helical shit game

[fallow fern]

pretty good for a ground drop

[modern zinc]

very nice

[proud gorge]

welp, just ran 5 runs of Boss Rush Zigg to see how it feels. It feels alright, fast to clear, etc, but man, the profit seems to be entirely tied to the rare Reality Fragment drop

which I did not see in my 5 runs lmao

[split pagoda]

Ye it just takes longer to get online

[spice pecan]

yeah i think t17 boss rush is just kind of wasteful at this point

[split pagoda]

But fross is very very good and pretty easy to acquire gear for this league

[potent horizon]

What's your guys phrecia goal I a few days

[proud gorge]

it's alright, and decently fast, but since I didn't see any Reality fragments I mostly broke even on money

[dusky void]

Foulborn ghostwrithe is a good option aswell

[frigid wedge]

to have a functioning idol set

[proud gorge]

well, I'll profit a bit, assuming this Wraithlord sells

[barren river]

also, should i go venarius or focused for penis brand?

[split maple]

focused if you can afford it

misted ofc

[potent horizon]

Heck yeah ima have to watch a video on idols

[barren river]

i cannot afford misted

[split maple]

nonmisted idk needs pobing if 1 pbod level is worth more than conflux giving you rly easy shocks and shit

• if i see your pob with focused and without +2 aoe on helmet i will get awful judgy

[frigid wedge]

i think imma do strongboxes

[spice pecan]

omegalul

[modern zinc]

I want to play spectres

specifically those giant harvest crab spectres

they used to be better but I still love them

[frigid wedge]

crushclaws?

[frigid wedge]

entire reason 4 this is literally just i don't wanna ruin a strat I like by knowing comparatively how bad it is without idol

[spice pecan]

what about the big yellow worms that burrow

and make the spore bomb thingies

[frigid wedge]

devourers are gross

they look like foreskin

[grand palm]

Hey, guys would love for you guys to awnser my question!
so, im a PoE2 player and i wanna get that Game Pass Floating armor mega badly.
is it possible and viable with the time span we have to go and get it?
otherwise im going maybe imexile's Earthshatter Berserker Slams build good or bad?

[spice pecan]

gamepass floating armor? you mean the kirac vault pass?

[grand palm]

yes

[spice pecan]

it's pretty easy to finish, and you dont have to purchase the pass until you've already finished it

[gentle ice]

made a small tool to write text/pixel art stuff from images in hideout with candles 🤣 , i'll be able to update my texts in my hideout more easily hahahaha

[grand palm]

you think i have time and how long do you think it will take? :3

[steady elk]

it's 115 map objs they don't take long

[spice pecan]

a week or two maybe, depends on how fast you go

[split maple]

game rly wants me to finish my heist collection today

[grand palm]

any tips for build or anything?

[steady elk]

pick a build and follow it

[spice pecan]

slams are easymode for it

[modest depot]

heist idols are gonna be such a vibe

[steady elk]

it's standard mapping

[steady elk]

league start --> mapping

[spice pecan]

24% for 6 additional is crazy

[steady elk]

slam builds as mythik said are giga easy

[modest depot]

i think u go for 18%

[grand palm]

can the imexile slam build do the job?

[modest depot]

this one instead

[spice pecan]

yes

[grand palm]

so just go for it?

i still have time?

[spice pecan]

yes

you have like over a month

[modest depot]

honestly maybe the mod is bad because u have so much increase from 1x1 anyways

[grand palm]

any good filter to use?

[spice pecan]

filterblade.xyz, can start with strict and go to very strict later

[ocean field]

is 27K lightning max hit viable or am I lowkey cooked

[grand palm]

thanks so much for the tips 😄

[split maple]

at least take tempered by war and one mod watcher

for that 70% convert or smh

[ocean field]

wallahi

I am cooked

Guess doryani on you is not a good idea

[spice pecan]

its very fun insta-dying to mana donut on doryani builds

[pulsar dune]

It's fine, but you do have to plan for some mitigation

Maybe just run a taste of hate at least

[elfin shale]

In a vacuum yes, but that lets you use the 15% life maatery

The Foulborn mod doesnt have the Life tag

[ocean field]

nah man I am dropping this plan

ts lowkey not worth

it

[potent horizon]

I ran doryani for smite that was fun

[ocean field]

I lose like 30% damage

but that is fine

[split maple]

doryani only gave you 30% 💀

how

[spice pecan]

ouch

[split maple]

did you have like positive res with it?

[tight plinth]

i wonder what can you do with giga duration

[frigid wedge]

what are u looking at

[tight plinth]

duration per str

antiquarian

[strong totem]

There's a few things

[tranquil sedge]

corrupt for +1 endurance charge

[fringe idol]

does anyone know if delve gets the extra map mods

[split pagoda]

ya ive also played doryani for smite, its honestly quite good

but u rlly want tempered by war+watchers eye mod

potentially even consider dawnbreaker

[split maple]

as soon as i get a dupe

and ofc you mean dc for enduro and suppress right?

[tight plinth]

which version of damnation from herald ascendacy came out last phrecia?

or this

[frigid wedge]

spark/ thunderstorm

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

true, both of course

[simple stag]

Bout that time of the year where I beg for patch notes

[strong totem]

Eq of amplification self ignite

If you only run reflect maps, you can use a good weapon

[elfin shale]

Storm Burst

[elfin shale]

That one

The one that was just straight up Eternal Damnation got scrapped for being broken

[steady elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJe6TVnqmNg

thoughts?

[tight plinth]

its one of the builds of all time

[modern zinc]

indeed

[frigid wedge]

10 minutes waiting for map to start

[stuck badger]

Does anyone know why my game keeps crashing after playing for a bit

[brazen vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302535546673037362/1414049314749022320/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[simple stag]

I hope herald gets something that makes lost unity a viable autobomber but i don't actually know what it needs

[split pagoda]

looks fine but defences are quite bad

[pale rose]

if i do atleast 3 green sockets craft will the fourth one be random or stay the same as bottom right

[split maple]

Random

But you can do bench 3-4 sockets after you color first 3

That preserves color of first 3

And Just repeat until 4th is red

Or blue or whatever 😄

[pale rose]

you mean the 3 and 4 craft repeatedly right

[split maple]

Yea

[pale rose]

aight thank you

[steady elk]

i see. dude was saying the defences were pretty good and all

[boreal spoke]

Back in delirium I played a cyclone coc ice nova build and it was the most fun I’ve had in a season. Is this build still viable to play in phrecia? Or something similar to it

[barren river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHNLfxBxcvo time to play terraria instead of phrecia 2

[split pagoda]

i mean its fine just too low for my taste, especially when playing a melee build like boneshatter id want alot more tankiness than that

its ultimately still a leftside melee build which automatically makes it reach acceptable levels for a starter

[devout widget]

are the tweaked ascendancies out?

[frigid wedge]

no

[carmine notch]

are you tweaking for the ascendancies?

[devout widget]

was any shadow ascendancy good in phrecia?

[frigid wedge]

"we're done putting out updates for terraria, this will be the final major update to the game"
1 year later
"We're so excited to bring you terraria 1.4.x"

[frigid wedge]

all of them

shadow and ranger were arguably the only 2 classes where all 3 ascendancies felt worth using

[devout widget]

ok, i might play shadow

[frigid wedge]

wait for patch notes

they said rebalancing is happening

ie all of them might be worth it

[stoic horizon]

well in theory there is a poe inspired mod for terraria

[frigid wedge]

honestly terraria modding is eh

like in theory its good but you need so much additional content for a terraria mod to feel substantial

and if u want one with like, a story or smth u always add too little

[barren river]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Mirror_of_Kalandra

why these 5 weapons?

why windripper and hopeshredder?

[stoic horizon]

windripper was very popular for a while

all the mf meta

legion etc

hopeshredder idk

[barren river]

but no one uses(or used) hopeshredder

[stoic horizon]

maybe back in olden days it was used

but idk

also prob cuz it looks cool

cuz quill rain would be too basic

[frigid wedge]

its a very old item

they picked the aesthetically pleasing ones that saw some use

also windripper used to be pretty good for quant

[barren river]

mirror of kalandra was added in aug 2023 in calamity

so hopeshredder was horribly obsolete at that point

[frigid wedge]

ok but the criteria is: visually simple, people have heard of them, they saw some use at some point

also that summon was probably in development for a while considering iirc its made by one dude and has 5 different sets of ai

[stoic horizon]

all of the weapons on it except paradoxica were obsolete at that point

well okay maybe starforge also somewhat used

[barren river]

and atziri's disfavour is cool

it should have been windripper and doomfletch(or iron commander)

[split maple]

atziri is bis ||for leveling enlightens in offhand||

[fringe idol]

What league starters should we consider for the temp league

[frigid wedge]

idk if u noticed but a lot of unique weapons have quite a lot of little details that are hard to fit into the very small number of pixels worth of space

and without those little details they stop being recognisable

terraria is not a visually high res game

[fallow fern]

shouldnt we get phreacia balance patch soon

i wanna know what i am working with

[frigid wedge]

so its awkward to fit these things

[barren river]

this will still fit in the game

[frigid wedge]

also they were probably picked partly bc they can very easily be scaled to about the ssme

[barren river]

why not voltaxic rift?

[gentle ice]

probably not before monday 🤔

[fallow fern]

i hope its not on release day

lol

[frigid wedge]

yeah but if u try and fit it u end up w a green bow with no distinguished features other than a pointy bit

[steady elk]

has the third edict mystery box been released before? curious about the drop rates

(not that it matters im not gonna get what i want either way 😭 )

[frigid wedge]

voltaxic rift is defined visually mostly by its coils

which again

are too tightly together

[barren river]

it's also used as a big stick for midgame cyclone

[frigid wedge]

windripper is literally a gold curve with spikes on it

that proportionally are quite large

and hopeshredder has a very specific shape

that is only matched by chin sol

but is noticeably thicker

also, it might literally just be that dudes fav weapon designs

[fallow fern]

isnt everything the same chance

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

[frigid wedge]

why

oh i see

jesus that pdps sucks

[barren river]

pls buff atziri's disfavour waa waa

[frigid wedge]

650pdps

[past rain]

if i wanna play kinetic blast do i go Blind Prophet for crit/nimis/+2 or Whisperer for probably big dmg?

[barren river]

I wanted to ask about starcaller, but that weapon is also dogshit

[frigid wedge]

whisperer

kboc

is the most broken shit phrecia managed to create

[barren river]

no no no!

[frigid wedge]

what

[frigid wedge]

what

kboc whisperer was like, ungodly overpowered

[barren river]

it has the strongest node of the whisperer integrated into the skill itself

[frigid wedge]

that isnt why ppl did it

[steady elk]

oh 💀

righto ty

[fallow fern]

SHOULD be the same chance

ive gotten boots on every single free box

[barren river]

oh

[frigid wedge]

whisperer is exceptional for mana+dex stacking, to the point that the bis weapon is an 12 link instead of dmg per attribute, and basically all of ur stacking stuff is carried by ascendancy

its so obscenely broken for kboc

[fallow fern]

that fork sh was the most fun

i had in a while

triple fork was hilarious

[elfin shale]

Is Darkscorn better than a bow with good flat phys

Oh wait its 300% More not 100% More damn

[past rain]

hmm

blind prophet seems more fun, but whisperer better

prboably better early blind propheet

[whole bluff]

Darkscorn used to have alternatives before they nerfed elder weapons cuz people were too reliant on elder weapons. Now there are no alternatives

Afaik anyway

So everyone is relying on darkscorn

It's kinda weird how bows are like darkscorn only and barely that, as far as the poison niche goes

I thought envenomed arrows were an established fantasy idea

[elfin shale]

So Darkscorn > big phys bow

[whole bluff]

Usually

Maybe some bow that just isn't worth crafting can beat it

[elder marlin]

For what build?

[crisp plinth]

people usually just go triple ele and all dmg can poison in some way

darkscorn is just an early option

[whole bluff]

Ah, that makes sense I guess

[elfin shale]

Fair ig

[whole bluff]

Better not be vinespike cordial though

[elder marlin]

Its the most reliable

Maybe festering is another option

[crisp plinth]

works just fine

[elder marlin]

But at that point its not using bows anymore

Beacon of madness is another option

[strong totem]

Mad bacon is good

But it has a low ceiling

[elder marlin]

What?

[strong totem]

Scaling is scuffed

[fringe idol]

What ascendancies/skills will be good to level with that use the same skill in end game for the temp league

[plush gulch]

I saw a cyclone build with like hundred fifty million dps, everyone saying it'"s bad but it doesn't seem to be

[elfin shale]

Smite is a great option

[elfin shale]

How much investment
How much defence
Could a different build do substantially better on that budget

[fringe idol]

Honestly this and Eblade/Ephemeral edge were my initial thoughts on what to play

Gives you the option to swap to molten strike for bossing too

[elfin shale]

And also is it Cyclone or Shockwave Cyclone

One is really bad one is a solid build

[plush gulch]

https://pobb.in/Zr2Sp4_s5Azo

but this is the expensive endgame version obviously

[fringe idol]

Is puppeteer good

[stoic horizon]

yes

but the zombie nodes are bait

[crisp plinth]

seemed like all minion like ascs in the event are just worse than necro to me

[plush gulch]

im happy to see a build making it work

successfully

[hexed mountain]

Is it tho

[plush gulch]

he has a video where he explains everything for the cyclone build if you want

people so cynical

[hexed mountain]

If you throw enough gear in it anything works technically

[fringe idol]

I'd be playing it 99% to stack energy shield

[strong totem]

4?!

[plush gulch]

nah I don't agree with this. Did you try to play stuff like scorching ray, primastic burst or whatever. You can throw as much money as you want defense and dmg will be meh. first people say doesn't matter how much buff cyclone get wiuth how trash it is but now you say everything can work

not every skill can ge to 170M dps while still having nice defense

i think

[stoic horizon]

sounds good

[plush gulch]

no matter the money

[hexed mountain]

Dots are dot capped

[normal hedge]

many people play schoring ray with rf but its just bad

[hexed mountain]

And scorching ray ca' hit dot cap if you throw gear at it

[plush gulch]

but no defense then

[hexed mountain]

And forego defense like this 4k hp melee build does

[fringe idol]

I can only assume the RProvidence Flame/Flesh will be like a mirror each ._.

[hexed mountain]

Bog shaman can do it on like 20K life or more so with defense

[fringe idol]

It's a bit annoying now that I think about it

[plush gulch]

i mean my point is just you can throw a lot of money at stuff but you get a ceiling on some skills very fast and unless you forego any defense you can't get to a nice dps

[hexed mountain]

The thing is cyclone is bad. The numbers are bad. You switch it for another melee skill you get more damage

[crisp plinth]

The config on that build is also setup in a way that its just the absolute max and not avg dps

[plush gulch]

this yeah it's reasonable

[haughty gale]

ggg please drop the patch notes I am fiending over here 😭

[plush gulch]

waiting patchnote disease got you too ? im coughing

im dying too

[hexed mountain]

You can throw as much gear as you want its still strictly a "do you want to play cyclone specifically"build

[strong totem]

Patch deez

[haughty gale]

someone ripped your sack? I am so sorry to hear that

[plush gulch]

it doesn't look like a bait he explain how to craft pieces of gear he explains his config

[strong totem]

They stole my orbs

[stoic horizon]

its weekend sir

[plush gulch]

from what it look like

[plush gulch]

they can't have a weekend while teasing us like this

:p

[haughty gale]

Yeah keeper nerfs kinda did that to everybody

[strong totem]

How would you feel about farming Titanic rogue exile again?

[hexed mountain]

The problem is the entire way from starting it to giga gear will feel abyssal

[golden phoenix]

It is not no

[haughty gale]

never did it in the first place so sure I'd try it

[plush gulch]

i don't understand you mean showcasing the ultra endgame version will feel bad because you will take a lot of time to get there ?

[strong totem]

Be prepared to die

[plush gulch]

which I guess make sense

[haughty gale]

yeah thats why I never did it

[fringe idol]

does anyone have a good Energy blade leveling guide?

[haughty gale]

I mean it wont exactly be optional

[fringe idol]

preferably something that uses Ivory tower

[haughty gale]

every rogue exile will have like 10 map mods and enrage

were all farming titanic rogue exiles now

[plush gulch]

you will all suffer greatly

[haughty gale]

(getting farmed by exiles so we know what it's like)

[plush gulch]

joking you'all follow guide

[strong totem]

We can get more mods than that

[shrewd rock]

Eb ivory tower is a swap at lv80

You won't really level with it

[haughty gale]

We will be getting the pre nerf mercenery experience except they can do it without consent now 😭

[fringe idol]

Do you just level smite? And what new ascendancy do you recommend

[shrewd rock]

I have no clue i skip bad leagues

Like this one

Lol

[haughty gale]

ragebait used to be good

[strong totem]

Reminds me of syndicate league. Everyone prayed to ggg to stop ganking them with assassins

[haughty gale]

unless you mean keepers and not phrecia

[shrewd rock]

You can level standard inquis caster

[haughty gale]

those will be stronger too now

[hexed mountain]

I mean the build will feel dogshit until you reach a large amount of gear. Which is even worse if you leaguestart it

[stoic horizon]

lance has a leveling vid from a year ago

[haughty gale]

tree

[potent horizon]

do any of you have a good page regarding gem levels from 1-35 just to see in depth what they gain

idk if im lookin wrong on wiki

[strong totem]

Poedb.tw

[potent horizon]

holy moly thank you

this is exactly what i wanted

[plush gulch]

https://pobb.in/j8xmSn3rdnzM so that's what he calls the early budget version

[strong totem]

https://poedb.tw/us/Skill_Gems

[plush gulch]

im very bad at league start and making money

though

[potent horizon]

bought a shako crown and thought if greater multi proj was higher level it would give more proj i was wrong

[haughty gale]

money should not be a problem in phrecia

[strong totem]

Ah just less of less

[gentle ice]

at that start it'll be tho 🤔

[haughty gale]

not really

extra map mods

[plush gulch]

i wonder what mecanic I should focus last time I did harbinger it was very fun, rogue exile I don't see the point everyone goikng to do it

[left cipher]

some of y'all that i encounter in trade are bonkers

[spice pecan]

rogue exiles are deadge

[plush gulch]

beyond it will sucks

[spice pecan]

you can do them if you want

[haughty gale]

maybe not harbies when tree prints fractures

[plush gulch]

blight in maps it's never great

[plush gulch]

smartt make sense

[ocean field]

I fucking hate armour. I spent like the last 6 hours making a build and it seems I cannot stop attacking for 2 seconds or I die.

[split maple]

what

[haughty gale]

I'd like to give advice but we have no idea what will get added and nerfed

[plush gulch]

nobody does it, there is a reason

blight map is more worthwhile

[stoic horizon]

titanic blight:

[split maple]

invigo blight is the juicer strat this league

like its the strat

[plush gulch]

oh i forgot about this

I never tried

[haughty gale]

blight will be very good(if your pc can handle it)

[plush gulch]

my build can't do it

[spice pecan]

i only have 4.5 tabs of megalos

[strong totem]

Do you have block?

[ocean field]

yes

I do

69%

[plush gulch]

@split maple@stoic horizon im hopig to farm rogue exile with the reward tile

i find it fun

[strong totem]

Life gained on block?

[ocean field]

yes

[hexed mountain]

Nice

[plush gulch]

I need to check the idol modifiers

if it's supported

[gentle ice]

i just hope they didn't nerfed all idols to the ground, i had so much fun in phrecia because of idols 😁

[ocean field]

Es gain on block

[haughty gale]

if you want tile farming try legion

[ocean field]

that is preventing shotguns

[plush gulch]

i don't like this mecanic it's only for wand or bow character

I feel like

[ocean field]

I forgot why I hated armor

[frigid wedge]

and what are you

[haughty gale]

no? I did it with mines, contagion, even rf

you just need some kind of proliferation

[ocean field]

I faced the same issue when I started this game

[plush gulch]

you have enough dmg with rf

[plush gulch]

not sure yet but not these

[left cipher]

more important are your tab names

[dreamy charm]

whats a good scarab farm in phricia i just want scarabs explosions/drops

[split maple]

its not rly dps demanding, but with rf idk feels a bit slow to pop legions

[strong totem]

Hating armour was the problem I wanted to solve

[plush gulch]

im kinda nwaiting for the patch

[spice pecan]

don't ask me while i'm sober

[frigid wedge]

there are other builds with good clear for legion

[left cipher]

collecting a dragon's haord of megalos is one thing, how do you even have time to price them all

[spice pecan]

i dumped them all in at 1d/ea

but also, i was recycling them for a guy in g420

[split maple]

dont worry there is like 10min simuls of time for each or two

[spice pecan]

so there were a few of us that he gave multiple full tabs

[ocean field]

yeah I don't like the fact I have to either attack or die

[spice pecan]

he basically picked out the good ones and gave us the bulk to sell for free

[ocean field]

cause only source of regen is leech

[split maple]

but like pricing megalos is like is there one of 4-5 good nodes or its dump tab

[ocean field]

other than recover es on block

[spice pecan]

yeah, i just chucked them in at 5d at first, then lowered to 2d and 1d

nice little bit of passive income

[strong totem]

There's a lot more than that.

[ocean field]

yeah I know that is the only souce I got

CI

[strong totem]

Makes sense now

[plush gulch]

do mines feel different when you play than traps?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[plush gulch]

i know I love traps

[spice pecan]

yes

they're far more smooth than traps imo

[plush gulch]

I saw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQUfIwGNwJA I was thinking it looks awesome 😮

[frigid wedge]

depends on the setup tbh

[left cipher]

I need to hire someone to price stuff for me, pay them in divs/hour or something

[frigid wedge]

lance build

[plush gulch]

I played lightning trap before it was amazing

[gentle ice]

can't assign detonate on left click anymore 😭 , gotta use automation if you want them to detonate automatically

[plush gulch]

that sucks

for me something important is how cool the build look

[frigid wedge]

breaking news, local man sees woman and wants to do what she is telling him to

[plush gulch]

when I heard her for the first time I thought it was the div card stealing girl I got jumpscared

[frigid wedge]

who?

[plush gulch]

like the first few sec

allie or something ?

idk

[spice pecan]

allie was the one that did the div card stuff yes

[plush gulch]

if you want I can also show you cyclone build I saw yesterday it looked super good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5N23oYc12w

[frigid wedge]

sure?

[plush gulch]

😎

I find it cool to find stuff people don't use

everyone is like cyclone is unplayable then someone make it work

then you're like maybe people are always a bit too extreme when they talk

which is annoying

[spice pecan]

the movement speed on it is why i can't bring myself to play it

[plush gulch]

like 20% more dmg of zero is still zero

[spice pecan]

i feel so slow

[plush gulch]

when they talk about the last buff

[golden phoenix]

How do we do on this fine Sunday fellow kids

[plush gulch]

i think it's tied to quality now

waiting patchnote disease

[gentle ice]

cyclone with stampede boots is pretty fun imo

[plush gulch]

im very sick

[spice pecan]

still waiting for phrecia notes

[golden phoenix]

Alas, not my job to write or post those

[split maple]

i am waiting for a lil datamine

[plush gulch]

why is this legal

😔

to spoil everything

[spice pecan]

oh i figured, i'm still stoked tho

[golden phoenix]

TBF I'm also looking forward to it. I need to know if my plans will be killed and it's taking some willpower to not look early

[plush gulch]

wait I remember how to make money at league start in phrecia

got my super secret technique

[spice pecan]

you heist

since day 1-2 mapping is kinda sus

[frigid wedge]

what are ur plans before u see them then

[plush gulch]

it's a secret but i try to focus on abbysses if I can to get shroud of lightless to sell to people playing blind prophet and stuff

[golden phoenix]

Poison divine ire delirious harbinger

[gentle ice]

just sell idols you'll make lots of money i'm pretty sure 🤔

[plush gulch]

don't tell anyone

[spice pecan]

poison divine ire, holy based

[golden phoenix]

I do not recommend it

[spice pecan]

the only way i could ever make divine ire work half-decently was on totems

[golden phoenix]

Ew, totems

[plush gulch]

totems are cool

what's your problem with it

[spice pecan]

you take that back 😡

[plush gulch]

😡

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[spare ore]

how dare you!

[plush gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-twister-dragon-twister-swordsman-sword-gif-25156634

it's a trickster be careful

[spice pecan]

also, voltaxic burst is surprisingly playable on totems

if you're scaling cast speed it feels pretty good, was delving on that

[golden phoenix]

I generally dislike proxy type skills that puts too much separation between cause and effect, as a general rule. There's exceptions like frozen legion

[whole bluff]

I think the biggest question marks for the cyclone you linked was: double good corrupted winterweave and taming, the body had 4 influenced mods that better not all be elevated, less than 4k life without any real mitigation, and wouldn't it have been better with just smite

[plush gulch]

maybe I should farm abysses

[spice pecan]

if eblade is popular in phrecia you might be able to farm abyss socket 1h weapons

and sell them at exorbitant prices to eblade players/lance enjoyers

[plush gulch]

I mean you can"t do anything in this game if only the best build using the best ability is allowed

[spice pecan]

[plush gulch]

😔

im sure smite would deal more dmg

no denying

[whole bluff]

I guess, and I do agree, as long as whatever you're doing has a purpose it gets around it for me

[golden phoenix]

If I wanted to play the best builds I would not be going poison divine ire

But damn does it sound interesting

[plush gulch]

i can't bring myself to play meta man

hurt my soul

[whole bluff]

Like cyclone is always moving, if he has range then he's got playstyle upside

[plush gulch]

I have to be a hipster

using cyclone isn'tt that interesting

using only Cyyclone

is

:p

[spice pecan]

i've wanted to try poison penance brand for a while, but i haven't heard a single person say anything good about it

[whole bluff]

Always moving is pointless if you're near "arms reach melee" though

[plush gulch]

personally I kinda dislike the melee experience of leapslapping between packs

you hit once it explode you leap slam

[golden phoenix]

Why play good when you can play fun

[plush gulch]

it doesn't even feel good

[spice pecan]

[plush gulch]

things exploded before I even felt the impact

almost

on my melee hit

[gentle ice]

i like simple builds build that are fun personally, i don't even care if it's a glass canon as long as it's fun and simple to play 😅

[plush gulch]

today I finished stuff that were stressing me out for months now I can sleep better

😴

joking I can"'t stop thinking about my league starter

how can I even sleep

[golden phoenix]

A well rested exile is more dangerous than a hundred sleepless dregs.

[plush gulch]

I like making my own stuff and seeing it kinda work

when you play something meta you steamroll everything it becomes about div per hour

[gentle ice]

yeaaah same, but most of the time my builds are miserable 😅

[plush gulch]

when you get steamrolled you don't think about that

[golden phoenix]

Anyway I'm hoping the enemy reduced action speed will help my survivability issues

[plush gulch]

temporal chain

[split maple]

the funny number

[plush gulch]

and the harbinger stuff that make you tanky

you should be cool

@golden phoenix

big dr

[spice pecan]

are the harby summons permanent minions/allies

[gentle ice]

i usually always league start RF because it's super easy, but RF without chieftain kinda scare me

[spice pecan]

or do you gotta keep pressing it

[plush gulch]

i think yes they are ininviclbe and don't hit

they just buff you

and do nothing

[spice pecan]

right but they dont have a duration i hope

[plush gulch]

no

the buff they give has

not 100% uptime

[spice pecan]

jeah

[plush gulch]

did someone even managed to make a strong use or +1 ring bloodline

[golden phoenix]

It can have 100% uptime

Just gotta channel often enough

I think

[plush gulch]

yeah you will be good

[golden phoenix]

Also get slower buff expiry so it lasts longer

But I'll also have increased damage taken from embrace madness

[spice pecan]

i was also thinking about beacon of madness harbinger

as a poison build maybe, but someone brought up that poison/bleed may not be a good choice

depending on if avoid poison/bleed/impale is considered a brick mod or not

so i'm not sure if i want to cook up some poison stuff

[whole bluff]

I hope harby is good in phrecia2. Not just somehow usable but powerful

[plush gulch]

half the poeple playing with an extra ring are attribute stacking

interesting

[whole bluff]

Because it's so cool

[plush gulch]

and so expensive im not trying

there is nothing I hate more than the mist ring things

[golden phoenix]

Beacon of madness and delirious bloodline harbinger is gonna be one of the builds of all time, mark my words

[plush gulch]

can't afford to gamble this much money

divine ire is the kind of skill looking so good you think the base version is a mtx

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/IH1D4LcXkSiA

how good is this

[plush gulch]

is this a poe 2 build

lol

[grizzled lily]

what

[plush gulch]

just joking around

they love spark stacking life other there

oh you don't stack life

🤔

I weirdly assumed every bog shaman was life stacking

@grizzled lilyit looks cool

[hexed mountain]

Isnt harbi buff always up if you grab the slower expiry node and runegraft?

[whole bluff]

The wand looked very reasonable until I saw the shield and helm. Compared to them the wand looks like microwave pizza

Or maybe I underestimate how hard it is to craft

[golden phoenix]

Depends on if you channel often enough for that harbi

But yes

[plush gulch]

but i don't think it's a big issue they will just have less tankiness

not breaking anything

like having a 950 dps weapon instead of 1050 dps weapon

[grizzled lily]

its hard not impossible

[hexed mountain]

harbi looking nice for HH builds who just want to do silly stacking too

[grizzled lily]

but its phrecia so i might have the money to craft

[whole bluff]

Shield and helm are above my budget anyway, but I'm not overly serious in how I play poe

[plush gulch]

also it's very good for build that struggle with recovery

like divine ire do I think

you don' t hit many time

so have dot leaving fast

is cool

[whole bluff]

Do you have the "40% more dot" and lose 5% life per second? If so, do you have a solve? Otherwise looks fine

[plush gulch]

he is CI to easy to solve if he tires

[whole bluff]

To me, that is

[plush gulch]

Thanksfully there is no % effect of explicit

with idols

i think

so even with regen mod it should be fine

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but poison don't leech much, so idk can you still solve with doryanis cluster? Or do you have to lose ZO?

[plush gulch]

because -100% regen rate instand death

😅

[whole bluff]

Ah, hmm

[plush gulch]

i think he just need like 5life per second or something

[tight plinth]

25 life regen on belt should counteract

[whole bluff]

Fair enough

[plush gulch]

enough to not die with a less regen mod

but anything that disable regen you instantly die

that downside is soul crushing ngl

doesn't look fun at all

[whole bluff]

I suppose I live on partly ZO atm, but to a big degree actual recharge. Like I said, I'm not a serious minmaxer. If I can kill ubers I stop investing more or less

[plush gulch]

but aren't uber a joke compared to poe current endgame

[tight plinth]

same

[whole bluff]

But on poison, I would want regen kinda is my point, but idk. Prolly others know better than me

[tight plinth]

its tedious to get that last 10%

[plush gulch]

when do you become a mod

first you green then you blue

that's part of life

evolution

[whole bluff]

My current plan is to be forever shrek

[tight plinth]

i need an absurd amount of flat phys on attacks, how do i get some?

[plush gulch]

idk how people can be mod I would have no patience to deal with idiotic people

[plush gulch]

lot of abyss jewel

[whole bluff]

Seems rough ngl

[plush gulch]

nah i guess it give elemental also

the spectral wolf

[plush gulch]

abyssus

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/ZmLpLc-0ovtu saw this from ruetoo, this looks so good omg

[plush gulch]

nice to see under represanted archetype for once

I remember looking the old google doc of phrecia

[grizzled lily]

elemental hit for once not used for lab trans

[plush gulch]

seeing 10 version of lightning strike

[plush gulch]

🤔 true but that stay a wander, anything wanding is insane

i think

[leaden mural]

I’m cooking up such a meme build on spider or harbinger. This league is going to be a banger

[plush gulch]

I mean more power to his build

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/s8IDum5JQ_e_

[plush gulch]

i just don't like meta stuff

[grizzled lily]

this is life version

hmm

[plush gulch]

that steamroll everything; I like to wing it and make trash builds

lol

but I would never have the skill to make 100M dps build

[frigid wedge]

missing multimod

[plush gulch]

like it's nothing

[frigid wedge]

melee elemental hit is funky

its either about as dissappointing as me when someone is interested in me

or its an epilepsy warning

[plush gulch]

wild strike vs elemental hit

let's find the difference

ngl i don't even remember I need to check

[stuck phoenix]

One is a strike

One gives flat

[plush gulch]

elemental hit melee isn't a strike ?

[stuck phoenix]

One cares about ailments

[stuck phoenix]

They're both strikes yes

Trolled

[fringe idol]

Is energy blade better for spells than attacks?

[stuck phoenix]

Main issue with elemental blade for attacks is that your attack speed is depressing

But there's nothing stopping you from stabbing things with it

[spice pecan]

yeah eblade base attack speed is kind of trash

[plush gulch]

i guess if you self chill everything is fixed

[spice pecan]

even using lancing steel is mega sus

[stuck phoenix]

Self
What

[spice pecan]

and i have like 1.5 jewels with attack speed

[fringe idol]

so in temp league I'd need to start scion to get battlemage then =\

[plush gulch]

no idea I see more people doing spell for some reason

[fringe idol]

that sucks

[stuck phoenix]

Need and need

[plush gulch]

but it sounds solid in both way

[spice pecan]

inquisitor gets battlemage, and spellblade support stacks on top of it

[stuck phoenix]

There is also Battlemage on a helmet or ff jewels

[plush gulch]

reverse chill

[gritty epoch]

patch notes when?

[fringe idol]

right but not in the temp league

[spice pecan]

nah you can

if you get the f/f

:)

but then you're playing templar in phrecia

[plush gulch]

scavenger get battlemage

[stuck phoenix]

Ok fine. But not really. You still have a bad base speed. But do it if you want to

There's also no guarantee scav still has Battlemage

[plush gulch]

this and lot of attack speed should fix it

you brute force it

[stuck phoenix]

Play eb if you want to

I don't think it'll be popular even with easy access to self chill

[fringe idol]

If my previous build only had 1.61 AS isn't 1.7 an upgrade?

[plush gulch]

yes it is

unless im really tired

[fringe idol]

is that really that slow

[whole bluff]

My mistake last phrecia was thinking battlemage meant scavenger was essentially an inquisitor

[grizzled lily]

if kboc isnt getting nerfed im going

if fork isnt getting deleted

its so good

[stuck phoenix]

There's a 0% chance they nerf kboc itself for Phrecia

[plush gulch]

actually it's not that it's slow or fact it's more the base speed is slow so it's hard to scale it to get faster you get less value. I think maybe it's a bit slow because other build can get lot more attack per second but maybe you can balance it by hitting harder so idk

[stuck phoenix]

Did you mean whisperer

[normal hedge]

they wont nerf kboc, maybe they fix the tornado graft and nerf whisperer

[fringe idol]

My thought was to do DSoJ

I just dont know how to best go about it

[grizzled lily]

ofc

[plush gulch]

I can't help you I never follow the meta lol

[whole bluff]

What's DSoJ?

[stuck phoenix]

I'd agree that it's ofc if I hadn't already seen so many silly people here

[plush gulch]

divine smite of juigement ?

i assume

[fringe idol]

yes

[grizzled lily]

no way people choose that ascendency for anything besides kboc or flicker

[whole bluff]

What do they mean by divine smite?

[grizzled lily]

paladin

[stuck phoenix]

I did but I play casually and only homecooked builds

[grizzled lily]

just go paladin

[fringe idol]

Why? Paladin seems under powered

[grizzled lily]

why do u care

[stuck phoenix]

Imagine waiting for patch notes though

[grizzled lily]

smite goes so good

[simple stag]

IM ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT

[fringe idol]

because there are only 3 weeks, no time to reroll

[grizzled lily]

just check exiledcat paladin smite

[fringe idol]

15 minutes before launch of course

[plush gulch]

25% increased damage taken , 3 elemental damage aura and either 40% flask effect or 20 increased dmg taken

[past rain]

is this really rare?

[stuck phoenix]

I'm expecting a week before

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[past rain]

isnt launch 29th

5 days

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

My expectations were wrong

[fringe idol]

current date is the 24th. League launches the 29th. Tough math

[past rain]

[grizzled lily]

monday patchnotes

[plush gulch]

@fringe idolyou may even balance elemental dmg and get trinity up

paladin is cool

[grizzled lily]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RF2nPrTmTCgvOiGo-wIcBC28Vz0RW6fB6mAlTvM3gKQ/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0

in case someone wants this

[plush gulch]

where are k pop idol there

[past rain]

omg the rogue exile and abyss strats

insane

[grizzled lily]

wat

[past rain]

im excited

[grizzled lily]

rogue exiles nerfed buddy

[whole bluff]

And abyss 😭

[plush gulch]

should still be cool

I want to farm anyss personally

early gazme for shroud of lightless

and uniques

then maybe I can farm corrupted jewel

and experience

seems soolid

behemot should be so strong with abyssal jewels guys

i hope it will get buffed ngl

the synergy is insane

no spell mean you can get abyss jewel everywhere

abyssal jewem can mean lot of flat