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[opaque sphinx]

pathfinder gave them ptsd

progen + tri ele flask 1 million max hit mfkers

[finite quail]

Oh shit that one, I forgot

[pliant hamlet]

210% w/o using flask clusters

300% is doable probably

[opaque sphinx]

flask cluster dont add a ton

[pliant hamlet]

would need to use 2 progenesis though

and you lose 70% if you don't use enkindling

[finite quail]

wdym 2 progenesis

the effects of duplicate flasks dont stack

[pliant hamlet]

...you use 2 for 100% uptime

[finite quail]

do you mean for the

ah, I guessed as much

[plush gulch]

2 progenesis

what arte you cooking

i don't even want to know

[finite quail]

A chef's build

[pliant hamlet]

damage immune pf

[plush gulch]

i'll not be able to sleep with such a curse

upon me

[pliant hamlet]

I think you can make a character immune to everything except the 2 lightning dots for 90% of gameplay lol

[hard cliff]

henlo

[opal ingot]

hi

[pliant hamlet]

wait wait, how does recoup + progenesis + ci work? is health stored as a float or an int

[spare ore]

what in the cursed

[opaque sphinx]

why cant be immune to lightning dots

[pliant hamlet]

https://pobb.in/DX_1sL4hbQBg

oh someone did it lol

this char is literally immune to hit damage

[plush gulch]

like me his weakness his mental damage

[pliant hamlet]

-37% chaos res to 28% over-capped res lol

[plush gulch]

nice

don't be mean to her

guys

[pliant hamlet]

indigon...bone shatter

that's a choice

ig if you're immune to hit damage might as well lol

[simple stag]

Who thinking about CWS ultimatum in phrecia

[silent leaf]

emiracle alrd made 3 builds for that

in the past week

[simple stag]

Ultimatum was cash in settlers hope its not nerfed

[pliant hamlet]

lol I just found a random post from Lilylicious looking for info on this build

wtf is pathofpathing 👀

[plush gulch]

What is indigo even doing

I dont understand

Spelll dmg ?

Boneshatter

[pliant hamlet]

I assume it has something to do with anomalous mana leech

[finite quail]

uh oh

[pliant hamlet]

you broke it

[finite quail]

i dont think it likes howlcrack and the recover 15% life on warcy mastery

and autoexert

[pliant hamlet]

oh howcrack + autoexert breaks it

[finite quail]

oh true

[pliant hamlet]

it's how poe ninja peeps hit inf dps

when it came out

[finite quail]

agh

That means no foulborn uul netols kiss

its cdr

fuhhhh

[pliant hamlet]

Thanks to anomalous mana leech every 200 mana spent in the last 4 seconds 11% increased damage is gained (this is uncapped and not restricted to spells like indigon)

it's to increase the mana cost

he's not using the spell damage aspect at all

[plush gulch]

Thats insane

[pliant hamlet]

since he's using mana recoup

and he's dealing infinite damage to himself

[plush gulch]

Why is it gone

Sadge

[pliant hamlet]

I mean, 3000% inc damage w/o investment probably wasn't okay

[golden phoenix]

The site I made before getting hired

[pliant hamlet]

😄 Cool site

[golden phoenix]

Protip: Click an atlas mastery icon

[pliant hamlet]

Woah

Why doesn't every atlas tree have this 👀

I love this lol

[golden phoenix]

Because it took me months of optimization and struggle to make it run fast enough with few enough errors

[pliant hamlet]

My new atlas tree website 😄

hahah Fair enough

Thank you for your hard work :3

[golden phoenix]

It's a javascript based minimum Steiner tree solver specialized for PoE trees meant to run in under a second in a browser, that's not as easy as some would think

[pliant hamlet]

I'm learning how to make boids and I'm so out of my depth, I don't even know what a steiner tree solver is 😄

[golden phoenix]

Big graph, many nodes. Want some nodes. Smallest tree to connect wanted nodes good.

[modern zinc]

what's a good spell for elementalist ignite prolif?

I'm thinking about arc

with flameblast for single target I guess

[pliant hamlet]

https://visualgo.net/en/steinertree?slide=1-1 learning about it now

[tight plinth]

im partial to woc

but ive seen people do arc

[livid quarry]

i have never made my own atlas tree

dont farm enough to test them

[pliant hamlet]

Check poe.ninja, search for people with ignite prolif support gem or berek's respite (not foulborn), especially on week 1 or earlier

That's what I'd look into for seeing what potential ignite builds are around

[tight plinth]

he gonna see a bunch of eviscerate

[pseudo axle]

hey y'all, looking at this jugg int/acc stacker, surprised I'm not seeing a stormshroud + shock avoid flask + mageblood setup. Is there a reason an int/acc jugg might not want ele ailment immune?

[candid moon]

You just click what you want to run wdym

[pliant hamlet]

eviscerate, BA, woc

[golden phoenix]

That's it, yeah. I'm essentially using the polynomial solution to the more specific MST problem (Kruskal/Prim's algorithm) with some heuristics to nudge it towards correct solutions most of the time.

[livid quarry]

i lied i make kirac atlas but it doesnt really count since its for atlas completion

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/good-burger-some-of-these-gif-12933391

[livid quarry]

if i only ran 500 maps a league and i tested with 100

it would be more devestating to find out its not efficient

[tight plinth]

who cares if its efficient

if its fun

[lean urchin]

me

[candid moon]

It do be cool, I use it when minmaxing my tree every time

[pliant hamlet]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers?timemachine=day-3&items=Berek's+Respite&skills=!Leap+Slam+of+Groundbreaking%2C!Eviscerate&class=Elementalist something like this is what I'd use to look that up 😄
Bex helm, woc, lightning conduit(that's a weird one..) BA, and the 2 I blocked: Eviscerate and Leap slam

[candid moon]

You dont need to test though?

[pliant hamlet]

I can't imagine how hard this would be to write yourself. Feels very overwhelming from the outside looking in

[tight plinth]

is there even a league mechanic thats net negative to run?

[livid quarry]

wdym? ppl have strates for making divs? if i make my own it might not be good?

[livid quarry]

happened sometimes when ppl buy overpriced stuff and didnt run it in the optimal way

not theory actually happened

[tight plinth]

like which?

[livid quarry]

i know from necro floris tried some beast

[candid moon]

Bigger variance is in scarabs or mechs themselves than the atlas. You generally only want to get quant/pack size stuff and the mech nodes themselves

[livid quarry]

and ended up nega

[pliant hamlet]

If you alch n go, everythings profitable.
If you start using expensive scarabs...you need to optimize

[candid moon]

Like, most trees will look very similar in function

[tight plinth]

my strat sometimes isnt even alching, just go

[pliant hamlet]

lol

[livid quarry]

yeah i do know most trees look similar

and then sometimes they are abusing bugs

[pliant hamlet]

Do things that other people aren't doing
or just do what you enjoy

[tight plinth]

my strat this league was running normal maps, but i did have scarabs. pretty profitable

[golden phoenix]

Surely there's no bug abuse here.

[candid moon]

Well that I wasnt aware of

[pliant hamlet]

abuse early abuse oft...wait a minute 👀 red name scatter

[golden phoenix]

[livid quarry]

in affliction there was teh abyss spire

[candid moon]

Unless it was new to post settlers leagues

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[opaque sphinx]

yeah prob

[livid quarry]

im js i aint studious so i aint risking my time testing farming methods

[candid moon]

Everyone and their mother ran spires tho

[livid quarry]

yea

was that a bug? bc it was changed

[opaque sphinx]

nah

just unintended

[pliant hamlet]

Were spires even profitable after the first few days? I remember t0s being so cheap when I checked trade

[opaque sphinx]

yes

spires were good not from rarity or anything like that

[candid moon]

Lots of people got their first mirrors in it so probs profitable lol

[opaque sphinx]

but because the wildwood extra proj applied to their pits

[lean urchin]

charms were the real money, got myself 300d charm very fast

[pliant hamlet]

I bet oils and beasts sold like hotcakes

[opaque sphinx]

so they added toooooooooooooooooons mobs

[candid moon]

Even their first raw mirror drops

[hexed mountain]

So many rares you often got conversion stuff

[opaque sphinx]

^

[candid moon]

Mfw I decided to do sanctum during affliction

[opaque sphinx]

andwildwood rarity applies to conversions

[hexed mountain]

as amazing in ssf to get thousands of alts fuses etc too

[pliant hamlet]

I did it in GSF, averaged .7 t0s a map + so many fractures

[empty bronze]

hey chat

do any of the phrecia ascendancies have anything for flask uptime?

[opaque sphinx]

i played poison blade trap cuz it was immortal and cheap

[pliant hamlet]

I'd definitely not make any plans around mods like that

I'm waiting for patch notes lol

[opaque sphinx]

needed something that wouldnt die if i couldnt press buttons for 10 secs due to -12 fps

[pliant hamlet]

I just played CWS

because it was immortal

[hexed mountain]

Going off screen to have fps

[pliant hamlet]

and lag spikes on kill were real

[opaque sphinx]

mhmm

[pliant hamlet]

loot was a bit worse because I couldn't control damage

but it's the easiest ssf build to make immortal

or well functionally immortal at least

[candid moon]

I just did MF helm crafts, 5min +50d profit

[pliant hamlet]

nice

6l mf helmet?

[candid moon]

Everyone had more money than than knew what to do with it

[hard cliff]

@pliant hamlet @opaque sphinx @hexed mountain

[tight plinth]

90% of my damage hinges on one item

[hexed mountain]

[pliant hamlet]

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/catsniff-catsmell-smell-cat-gif-25675708

[pliant hamlet]

I should sleep, cheers peeps

[golden phoenix]

Sleep well!

[pliant hamlet]

o7 I look forward to learning about steiner trees tomorrow

[hard cliff]

goodnight be safe

[golden phoenix]

Good luck!

[candid moon]

I decided to play MF for the first time in 3.25. Guess what, they removed IIQ that patch

[tight plinth]

pira got summoned with cat gif

[livid quarry]

i know a fren that wanted to do sanc

practiced for it

then next league it got nuked

[fallen gust]

any word on the patch notes for phrecia??

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Perseverance

This seems sleeper op

[empty bronze]

ggg should add an atlas keystone for running unidentified maps

[tight plinth]

https://pobb.in/MBydiOhYWjkU boggy shammy

[pseudo axle]

oh I didn't realize brute force solutions with high int rolls were a div, I left so many on the ground from strongboxes, lmfao

[pseudo axle]

this would be interesting

[hard cliff]

That's dirty

the traitor tech for unholy might

I will steal this @tight plinth

[tight plinth]

[tight plinth]

crazy enough, iron mass is the same dps as obliteration

just because it gives unholy might

[hard cliff]

Why not use that then ?

Explode ?

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Iron_Mass

Damn now you make me wanna play a iron mass summoner

I bet it sucks

😩

[golden phoenix]

Why play good when you can play fun

[hard cliff]

I wanna do maps

[pseudo axle]

because good is fun

[golden phoenix]

But have you considered: Fun?

[pseudo axle]

no

[hard cliff]

Build accomplishments for me are things like killing pinnacles with no deaths or t16 juiced no death or t17 juiced no death

[golden phoenix]

-# I'm being a shit ignore me

[pseudo axle]

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-dog-the-situation-im-in-rn-gif-12202597808913004719

[pseudo axle]

alright, time to re-spec ascendency again, now that I have all*** of my gear

[empty bronze]

also, ggg should make you get a boost to item quant or something when you open an unidentified strongbox

[pseudo axle]

*its not all the gear
** just what I was able to afford
*** I thought a mirror's worth of currency would be enough

[thick goblet]

average calamity boss fight

[empty bronze]

you cant craft unidentified items right?

[pseudo axle]

no

[empty bronze]

like you cant vaal orb an unidentified map

[pseudo axle]

I think ggg is getting away from 'unidentified' as a thing being important in the game

its a vestigial mechanic

[empty bronze]

i understand why you cant alch unidentified items, though it would be funny if you could

[empty bronze]

i'd say go full last epoch and drop it entirely

just let people make loot filters based on affixes

[pseudo axle]

also strongboxes are like a tier-zero farming strategy this league

they don't really need a quant boost

[hard cliff]

I think you can vaal orb an unided map

[empty bronze]

tbh i have no idea how good/bad any mechanics are right now

[pseudo axle]

no offense, while I don't see any problem with you speculating on cool mechanics, it -is- beneficial to understand what is good, and why it is good

[empty bronze]

i was wondering if ggg did add a keystone for unidentified maps, if you would be able to use it with the one for corrupted ones

[pseudo axle]

presumably but I think the corrupted keystone is bad iirc

[hard cliff]

They have a random mods keystone or maybe that's a craft or both

Who tf wants to run random atlas keystones tho

[empty bronze]

maybe something like unidentified maps get rerolled into a different map of the same tier and some other bonus?

[empty bronze]

not random keystones

[hard cliff]

@empty bronze

[empty bronze]

found it

[hard cliff]

Fortune Favours the Brave selects a random map crafting option.

Bold Undertakings causes Fortune Favours the Brave to randomly select two map crafting options for 6x

Chaos Orb
s.

[empty bronze]

twist of fate

[hard cliff]

yeah bring this back

[empty bronze]

its still in the game as far as i know?

[hard cliff]

holy shit

What's that

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Primal_Owl

[pseudo axle]

see the problem is that you can get so many brick-tastic mods

[hard cliff]

Oshabi boss fight you can just buy this, right ?

[pseudo axle]

yeah you can buy the oshabi bossfight

sacred blossom

[empty bronze]

just run a build that doesnt get bricked smh

[hard cliff]

What's wrong with doing double six link unleash dual spells @pseudo axle ?

with extra unleash primal owl

[pseudo axle]

I'm talking about the map mod

not whatever thing you're talking about

[empty bronze]

i think i actually ran a build that could use twist of fate decently

[hard cliff]

ok

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393762031546532010/1457793581325746370/Q7CK9KJ_Q_VSXS0I8P.gif

[hard cliff]

help me theorycraft

[empty bronze]

i was running arcanist brand, brand recaller

i think the only problem mod was reflect, which isnt that hard to mitigate

maybe some of the recovery mods?

[gritty epoch]

Bv cold herald stack

[empty bronze]

woespike impale

[hard cliff]

BV is kinda cheating

[empty bronze]

you wear two 50%+ wokespikes and do one big impale then repeat it

[hard cliff]

Also it's been done

What's two spells that would benefit following each other @gritty epoch

Can't do fire trap of blasting cause it's a trap

[empty bronze]

so like Crushing Fist for 2000%+ damage effectiveness then repeat the impale fast with stuff like rage vortex of berserking and cyclone

[gritty epoch]

blade blast idk

[hard cliff]

Unleash dump first spell to clear most trash
Unleash dump and alternate second spell for tough enemies

[hard cliff]

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA

https://tenor.com/view/dog-kisses-golden-retriever-dog-funny-dog-gif-16008391

[stable hawk]

Twist of fate chaos orbs the map aswell right

[empty bronze]

or just use cyclone and rage vortex of berserking with some % chance to deal double/triple damage

[hard cliff]

What's a good caster this upmcining league ?

[empty bronze]

uhhhh

idk

[hard cliff]

Me neither

[gritty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-go-slap-rude-gif-12692597

/s

[empty bronze]

surfcaster has 50% more cast speed if you have a fishing rod

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-dbz-vegeta-when-someone-is-playing-justin-bieber-song-explode-gif-4899403

[silent leaf]

remember VIne guys they had a meme named

Phre-cia va ca do

[hard cliff]

bro what the fuck lmao

[empty bronze]

oh chat

[silent leaf]

i mean thats just max

is kinda shit no?

[empty bronze]

you might be able to apply 3 grasping vines in one hit

[silent leaf]

frenzy is kinda easy to just, get

[finite quail]

its... beautiful....

[silent leaf]

power yea ig kinda more annoying

[empty bronze]

with the boots and the tincture

probably not worth it though

[hard cliff]

Bro you will ALWAYS BE mexed the fuck out on charges

[silent leaf]

well not rly

[empty bronze]

its also the shrine ascendancy

[silent leaf]

if you do run charges

[hard cliff]

I also do not know if adding 4 min charges means you get 5 if you get a +1

[silent leaf]

like endurance charge

you are likely getting +2 more

[stable hawk]

The hiero node is a lot better tbh

[silent leaf]

i was gonna say slayer

lmao

[stable hawk]

Well the hiero node is just same thing but endu instead of frenzy

But that makes it way better imo

[silent leaf]

wait a minute, its on ranger

thats worse

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Whisperer

Is this any good ?

Let's cut the crap

and talk business

[empty bronze]

whisperer seems interesting

idk what you would do with it

[silent leaf]

IMO that charge notable

is a big no

but others might be good, not sure on ranger

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/vE6aLko.png

this is very strange

this whole thing here

Mind = blown

[thick goblet]

did you notice all the notables are lowercase cause they're the whisperer

[silent leaf]

yep

im a novice writer and needing to capitalize every letter first in a sentence made me see them alot

and capitalizing I and I'm or Names

[split pagoda]

My main issue with whisperer is the starter part of it, it can pop off with gear but starting it looks rough this league with all the extra shit

[hard cliff]

I had to tell a girl at work today to please quit writing the girl version of my name 😩

I thought I escaped that in middle school

People just don't know how to spell lol

[hard cliff]

yeah.........

I kinda wanna play a bow build

but dunno what

I feel like ice shot would just be worse than regular league lol

and I don't wanna do a dot

[split pagoda]

Bow build in this league MONKA

[hard cliff]

I don't know what bow meta even is these days

Besides playing the fuck out of the quiver boost bow

[empty bronze]

i wonder if daughter of oshabi poison + some bloodline ascendancy might be decent

[hard cliff]

IS MONKA GOOD OR BAD

[empty bronze]

also

[silent leaf]

21k life

RF

[empty bronze]

ggg needs to make create lesser shrine autouse the shrines or something

[split pagoda]

It means its scary

[hard cliff]

---

All Damage inflicts Poison against Enemies affected by at least 5 Grasping Vines
Inflict 1 Grasping Vine on Hit

This seems kinda ass

5 hits to start lol

[empty bronze]

or just directly give the shrine buffs for gods sake

[hard cliff]

Pohx looking good

[split pagoda]

Mfa is probably the meta bow build of phrecia but you’ll wanna find something else to play for a while as a starter

[thick goblet]

mfa whisperer is pretty good
so is double/triple/quad coc blind prophet, there's a bow setup
not sure if either count as a bow build

[split pagoda]

Oshabi might have something

[empty bronze]

explosive arrow

[hard cliff]

How does that work exactly

[empty bronze]

she explode on my arrow til i

[hard cliff]

you use a fast firing skill and you poop out other arrows kinda like a ghetto Cast on Crit but with mana spent ?

Doesn't sound like a bad life

[empty bronze]

this exists

[hard cliff]

This is also on a unique

that goddess wand

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Grace_of_the_Goddess

[empty bronze]

i know

[hard cliff]

that's +1 tho

so yeah node is better

[empty bronze]

dual grace of the goddess for 6 wisps?

i have a prediction

ggg is probably gonna change the uniques on scavenger

idk if they will change all of them but im guessing some

would be cool if they put some foulborn uniques on scavenger

or a foulborn scavenger

[hard cliff]

I agree

Is Mobalytics a scam site ?

[empty bronze]

idk

[hard cliff]

It don't matter this is for a different kinda build anyways

[finite quail]

this doesnt seem to recover life this way sadly

[split pagoda]

Not a scam site but the whole 3rd party build sites stuff becoming more and more used is annoying lol

[hard cliff]

what the hell are you even doing

Nice RF

[finite quail]

screaming

very loudly

very often

screaming at my enemies until they die

[hard cliff]

ok Queen of Pain

[gritty garnet]

use not trigger

[finite quail]

true

Guess I'll need one off autoexertion for life reco

[gritty garnet]

triggered warcries work with the banner & rage masteries

[tawny garnet]

what makes a rare beast 'bad'? i thought any rare beast can be used in beast crafting recipes so why do the beast farming strats use regex to delete beasts?

[stuck phoenix]

keep in mind yellow and red beasts are rare

red beasts can only be used for one specific recipe

[finite quail]

your bestiary menagerie has a limit to how many beasts it can store

[stuck phoenix]

if that recipe is bad then people don't want it

and it has no value

[finite quail]

taking all of the yellow beasts fill it up very quickly

[stuck phoenix]

like add a mid tier mod to a life flask

[finite quail]

you dont wanna be full of yellow/low value beasts

[tawny garnet]

the red beasts are the ones like black morrigan and craicic, right?

[finite quail]

yes

but there's many more red beasts

in order to know which is which, you have two ways

their beast modifier name, and their ingame model

[stuck phoenix]

those two are red, yes

[foggy jasper]

someone have the link to the forum post that shows off all the phrecia ascendencies

[hard cliff]

Just use the wiki

[finite quail]

wiki

also they are going to be balanced anyways

[steady elk]

Feel kinda stuck

Been reliably clearing t15-16 maps with my new axe but still feels super slow and unoptimized

[hard cliff]

WHAT'S UP

post your build

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me and my small polynesian dog I've trained to play poe will help you

@finite quail

[golden phoenix]

Your what

[finite quail]

what

[hard cliff]

Extinct

[finite quail]

okay?

[hard cliff]

[steady elk]

Hold on

https://pobb.in/brR15vxT9agd

[finite quail]

now thats a lotta red

[thick goblet]

no life mastery? also fix your flasks

[hard cliff]

Your helmet and gloves both suck

which is good news easy to upgrade

and when you get some nice gloves you can roll some nice ichor things on them

for all kinda of benefits

[thick goblet]

also quality up your items and eldritch influence them at least

[steady elk]

boots suck too no movement 💀

[hard cliff]

No way you can't get better than kaoms sign

[steady elk]

i was using that since it was recommended by the guide

[hard cliff]

Keep leveling up all your gems and/or buy some level 20 with quality on them

[hard cliff]

It's good but I think you can get better now

[gritty garnet]

for levelling maybe

[hard cliff]

Also you have two vulnerabilities

but that might just be pob

being weird

You can get damage over time on rings

[steady elk]

that's indeed just pob

what's wrong with the flasks btw?

[steady elk]

the chestpiece was from a buddy of mine in reality idk how to get or make those besides buying off trade

and at the moment im flat out of orbs lmao

[hard cliff]

They have no mods on them

get the maximum level of granite flask and hit it with one of them makes it blue orbs

and then keep smashing alteration orbs on it till you get a mod that sounds good and keep it

or if it's got room for one more hit it with the one more orb

and then decide to keep

I don't think ignore phys damage on tincture flask does anything for you but I could be wrong

Orb of Transmutation on your flask --->Orb of Alteration

THAT'S THE NAMES

oops caps

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yes-agree-nod-nodding-gif-17512051

[golden phoenix]

Do I look up the names of currency frequently at work?

Listen man, there's a lot of them okay

[steady elk]

thanks alot fellas

what's a good glove/helmet/boots look like btw?

still not used to being able to tell what's good and what isn't

[elfin shale]

Is Corrupting Cry any good for damage

i guess i just compare to CF+reap/exsang

alright not lookin good

lol i love that you CAN autoexert Corrupting Cry if you can somehow reduce it's reservation by what, 1/6th?

[stray sedge]

Complex machinations converge to a single act of power.

[pseudo axle]

damnit I got the wrong lightning strike

[shadow socket]

its solid with high invest

kind of caps at 10-15m though

[hard cliff]

@steady elk

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Volzun-2584/Ulyrd?i=1&search=skills%3DBoneshatter%2Bof%2BComplex%2BTrauma%26class%3DJuggernaut%26supportgems-Boneshatter%2520of%2520Complex%2520Trauma%3DVolatility%2BSupport%26items%3D!Mageblood%26masteries%3D%252B3%2525%2Bto%2BDamage%2Bover%2BTime%2BMultiplier%2Bfor%2BBleeding%2Bper%2BEndurance%2BCharge%252C25%2525%2Bchance%2Bto%2BAggravate%2BBleeding%2Bon%2Btargets%2Byou%2BHit%2Bwith%2BExerted%2BAttacks%26sort%3Ddps

here's a random expensive af version of your build

you can't copy the gear exactly but it can give you a good idea of what you can aim for

that belt and helmet especially would be a huge dps boost

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/abc88711-6768/可可蘿蔔糕加蛋?i=1&search=skills%3DBoneshatter%2Bof%2BComplex%2BTrauma%26class%3DJuggernaut%26supportgems-Boneshatter%2520of%2520Complex%2520Trauma%3DVolatility%2BSupport%26items%3D!Mageblood%252C!Defiance%2Bof%2BDestiny%26masteries%3D%252B3%2525%2Bto%2BDamage%2Bover%2BTime%2BMultiplier%2Bfor%2BBleeding%2Bper%2BEndurance%2BCharge%252C25%2525%2Bchance%2Bto%2BAggravate%2BBleeding%2Bon%2Btargets%2Byou%2BHit%2Bwith%2BExerted%2BAttacks%26sort%3Ddps

here's an alternative that uses less uniques

[elfin shale]

With or without other phys DoT?

[shadow socket]

by itself

[elfin shale]

Not bad tbh

[shadow socket]

heres a pob I ripped from ninja a bit back https://pobb.in/HCNLHXxWRXRx

[empty bronze]

corrupted blood warcry

[pseudo axle]

did they kill the evolving shrine/incursion farm?

[shadow socket]

ye

[modern zinc]

Eviscerate looks like an amazing skill

but it also looks super op?

you just block and the enemies die around you

I'd play hardcore if my ping wasn't 100

I even play predictive because of it

[finite quail]

i dont know how you'd even build that

It sounds terrible

And it making you spend thousands of life per cast is stupid

[finite quail]

well the tradeoff is the cooldown and needing to block to activate it

for example in uber fights

you have to get hit to activate it

and getting hit by ubers doesn't sound very healthy

[empty bronze]

hey, you're the one that said you wanted to kill stuff by shouting

[finite quail]

If I had corpse explosions...

[modern zinc]

oof

alright that makes sense

[finite quail]

ofc you're speccing into block when you do that so you block most hits that come in

But what about the ones you don't block

[pseudo axle]

I just got a fractured delve mod ring

its only impale chance but that might be good, idk

[hard cliff]

@finite quail

what are you doing

[pseudo axle]

ahhh no wonder I was dying, I didn't have my proper jade flask

now I have 83% evade

[hard cliff]

cap it

[hard cliff]

it's so over

[modest depot]

maybe my worst group run ever. i just ran the entire thing without a lab because i forgot trial lol

this is prime

[finite quail]

what?

wdym what am i doing

[hard cliff]

what build are you trying to make

[hard cliff]

super fast

[sage falcon]

now do it in poe2

[steel light]

can u level for me? usually it takes me 14 hrs to complete a campaign

[finite quail]

For leaguestart in phrecia?

Poison spark bog shaman with widowhail

[modest depot]

Just carried by group play

[livid quarry]

i will play phrecia if i had leveling gear at start

[finite quail]

you do get leveling gear at the start

from hillock

its the white items he gives you

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-meme-tired-bored-jaded-done-with-this-gif-16361914

[night bone]

Me every day when I worked at Radio Shack

[hushed pumice]

hey guys can anyone here help me level

[finite quail]

no

https://tenor.com/view/dude-cat-haircut-hair-cut-gif-2602970634850568274

[potent bramble]

You get better experience for killing more difficult monsters!

Edit, just to clarify - while this is true it was meant as a joke and not as a rude/flippant comment 🙂

Second edit: It's sometimes useful to grind zones even if your level is higher, if you can do it faster and/or get good loot. Like Tabula from Blood Aquaducts

[finite quail]

you'd level up faster playing the game than asking to be levelled up by someone

[night bone]

Well mine is a flippant comment!

Also Abyss is good xp

[potent bramble]

This is true. Most mechanics are fairly decent for XP really, though Abyss is probably the best ROI compared to time invested.

[golden phoenix]

Learning to speedrun the campaign is probably some of the most fun I've had in PoE.

[fickle glen]

Does the Snipe skill fire multiple skills in a fan shape or a point?

[potent bramble]

I thought it was based on how you're getting multiple proj? Like I have a memory that LMP/GMP both specifically say the shape, whereas something like volley says it'll be parallel

[fickle glen]

Right but what if I don’t have additional projectiles? Will it fire 5 skills in a single point?

[potent bramble]

I think if you aren't getting multi proj, then it works like barrage where it just shoots 'em all in a line, yeah

I would test it though, I'm not certain

[night bone]

should be easy to test, if you have a supreme ostentation character you can use any old bow lying around

[fickle glen]

Can’t afford testing yet

[jagged raven]

hi

[night bone]

buttocks

[golden phoenix]

Hello

[jagged raven]

bye

[pseudo axle]

it me

also, damn lightning strike of arcing is turbo broken lmao

[golden phoenix]

Bye

[pseudo axle]

well, with int/acc stacking anyway

but the behavior of the gem is nice

[fickle glen]

Also, does the damage of skills split between the amount of projectiles that Snipe can fire?

[pseudo axle]

anything that is a loot seeking missile is a-okay in my book

[pseudo axle]

are you using snipe as in the default skill damage of snipe

or are you using snipe as a support gem

[potent bramble]

Fairly confident that multiple projectiles deal full damage independently - unless the skill specifically says it'll be divided

[fickle glen]

Not using any of it right now

[heady cliff]

at this point, why not wild strike

[fickle glen]

Wouldn’t that make shotgunning with bow op?

[pseudo axle]

only certain skills shotgun

[kindred silo]

yes

that is why bows are so good for clear

[fickle glen]

Bet

[pseudo axle]

bows aren't good for clear because of shotgunning per se

shotgunning is a specific behavior

bows are great because they have enormous clear range and speed

[kindred silo]

bows shotgun on clear

[fickle glen]

I am ranger bow is the best option for me

[potent bramble]

Pretty sure it is, the challenge is just making sure you don't die the first time a rhoa runs past you. So you trade tank for damage/clear, and aim for more of a glass cannon style of play

[kindred silo]

a single la shot can hit multiple times with the lightning portion of the attack

same with ele hit and ice shot

[pseudo axle]

thats because those skills have aoe explosions attached

the projectiles themselves do not multi-hit a single foe

only the explosions can overlap

[fickle glen]

Wait so u saying I can’t shotgun a large foe?

[pseudo axle]

I literally said earlier only certain skills shotgun

skills only 'shotgun' with projectiles if they either fire a bunch of arrows in a single attack sequentially, or if they have some kind of weird gimmick, i.e. spectral helix

link bork

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Projectile#'Shotgunning

weird okay I guess it doesn't like the ' in the title

so lightning arrow 'sort of' shotguns

[potent bramble]

This is odd to me, because the visual that brings up would be closer to barrage's effect, where the projectiles all come out in a straight line. Shotguns, by design, are more about localized AOE (sawed-off being even more so)

[pseudo axle]

yes barrage does multi-hit

think of it this way

[fickle glen]

Barrage is more like a burst rifle it’s not shotgun

[pseudo axle]

jesus people

path of exile has specific nomenclature

I didn't invent it

but it exists

[potent bramble]

No I know, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying the term feels weird to me because what I imagine and what's real aren't the same

[fickle glen]

What I am thinking too

How the F large foes can’t get shotgunned by fan shape attack from multiple projectiles

[pseudo axle]

because the game literally is designed to prevent that on most skills because it is too overpowered

it has been designed that way for over a decade

there are skills that are exceptions and they're usually quite good

[fickle glen]

Snipe suddenly became trash. Ty for the info boys

[golden phoenix]

It's an interesting challenge to design a game to be both believable and playable. So many games fall apart if you think too much about the mechanics of what's happening in the world

[pseudo axle]

snipe is good!

like brother you're jumping to the wrong conclusions way too quickly

[night bone]

Kinetic Fusilade is shotgun-esque

[potent bramble]

A single attack can only hit an enemy once, unless it specifically say otherwise. Which makes total sense from a balance perspective

*Unless I'm misunderstanding things

[night bone]

at least, it feels like it if you build it right

[runic orchid]

Game just disconnected after i beat Lycia, soul crushing pain

[pseudo axle]

"Sequential projectiles are unaffected by shotgun prevention. Projectiles fired in sequence like Ice Spear, Vaal Fireball, or skills supported by Barrage Support can all collide with the same enemy. (Non-sequential projectiles created by e.g. Forking or Splitting are affected normally.)"

[fickle glen]

They need to fix that crap

[potent bramble]

T'was just the game, gifting you a chance to enjoy Sanctum again

[fickle glen]

I am using explosive arrows with barrage it’s great

[pseudo axle]

If a skill goes [12345] instead of [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] it gets shotgun preventioned

[fickle glen]

I thought snipe would be a nice shotgun upgrade but NOPE

[pseudo axle]

each , representing a distinct firing

and the brackets representing a single skill cast

[runic orchid]

I didn't even get to grab the bloodline, i am in shambles

[pseudo axle]

https://poe.ninja/

search explosive arrow here

under the builds tab

[fickle glen]

Huh? What for?

[pseudo axle]

oh man they're all totem builds lmao

[pseudo axle]

brother do you want ideas for your build or not, poe ninja literally takes all the top profiles in the game and displays their character info

so you can get ideas on what top players are doing and why

[fickle glen]

Yeah idk why totem builds are all for explosive arrows, I like to fire the thing from my bow 😐

[pseudo axle]

because totems do it better presumably

I guess if you're intentionally playing an off-meta build then ninja isn't great

[potent bramble]

Because EA Ballista is crazy strong

[pseudo axle]

but if you're trying to get better at the game then poe ninja is a good resource

[potent bramble]

IIRC the arrow sticks, then explodes after a duration. The more arrows stuck, the more damage done in the explosion. 4 or 5 turrets means 4 or 5x the arrows in the target, means a huge amount of damage scaling compared to trying to do it yourself

Plus it's easier to summon the totem and then move, avoiding being attacked, vs trying to stand and fight and run all at the same time

[pseudo axle]

I always feel awkward trying to give people help for precisely the reactions I'm getting to my advice. Path of Exile is a stupidly complicated game and the sooner you accept that you have no idea what you're doing until you take the time to in-depth study the materials available, the sooner you'll get that much better.

that's not me trying to be elitist or whatever, its just like, hard, incontrovertible fact.

I think everyone runs into this at some point or later and they have to make a choice about the time vs knowledge investment they want to give the game

I was in your shoes once back in 2017 with my first league.

[potent bramble]

I think that's a huge thing in general with games, but especially in a game like this. If a player wants to do something that isn't commonly done, there's going to be a reason why it's not common - either it's been tried and it's not good, in which case the player has to go into it understanding they'll have a harder time compared to a player who's on-meta. Or it's not common because nobody's really tried it. In which case they're going to struggle to find any solid information on how well the thing they're trying works

And either way, choosing to go off-meta is choosing to walk a more difficult path

[pseudo axle]

precisely

[tranquil sedge]

in this case its just who ur giving advice to

[golden phoenix]

Tbf that's why many of us love the game too.

[tranquil sedge]

he's most of the way to a lost cause

[pseudo axle]

I mean. I wasn't going to be mean.

[fickle glen]

Ayo?

[tranquil sedge]

thats ok i can take care of that

[pseudo axle]

🙄

[tranquil sedge]

it takes people saying something repeatedly many times before you get it man
and even then its an uphill battle most of the time
its not that much of an exaggeration

[tranquil sedge]

most of us enjoy it for the complexity ye

its also why its so hard to find a replacement game

[fickle glen]

I never asked for that kind of help, I just needed info on the specific things I ask

[potent bramble]

100%. I usually run an established build or two to start the league, because competitive economic power and all that, but the most fun I have is trying to make janky, unwise things function as less janky (though often still unwise) things. I will find a way to do some sort of Poison Proliferation & Cyclone combo 😄

[golden phoenix]

I play in private leagues so I've never felt the need to compete economically. I league start jank stuff all the time.

[pseudo axle]

I mean. On the one hand. I get that.

On the other hand, you're asking the wrong questions because you are starting off false assumptions

which is not good

[night bone]

competing economically while also killing shit (no hideout warrioring) is the most fun part of the game to me

[fickle glen]

You guys are sweet trying to give me meta builds but I am really picky is all

[pseudo axle]

yeah I couldn't play this game without trade league

I'm not trying to give you a meta build.

[tranquil sedge]

realizing you can compete economically even if ur playing non-meta farms and builds is the real game changer

as long as ur expectations are somewhat realistic pretty much anyone with some time to play could farm a few mirrors a league

[earnest raven]

Have you tried coc? I think you might like it

[potent bramble]

I play too many games to dedicate the time to doing anything other than softcore trade 😄
After over a decade on Steam I have almost 600 games in my library, and my top 5 all have over a thousand hours played. POE on it's own is over 3700 lol

[golden phoenix]

Don't have as much time to play as I used to sadly

[pseudo axle]

what are you, some kind of farmmunist?

[tranquil sedge]

hell literally anyone can farm like half to 3/4 of a mirror with basically almost no time played over a couple months from kingsmarch alone

[split maple]

Okay going back a tad earlier - can someone tell me why cannot I Just slap hateful accuser ring swap on la/ehots and call that single target solved?

[heady cliff]

realizing that meta builds are a trap in terms of power/divines....

[pseudo axle]

or you can drop a mirror like I did today

[tranquil sedge]

-# one day

[heady cliff]

that is true enlightement

[split maple]

Told ya making currency is easy

[pseudo axle]

I'm already back down to only 4 divines in inventory

[tranquil sedge]

yea i'd be at mirrors per hour if i could make perfect adorneds too

[fickle glen]

I like that name 😆

[pseudo axle]

spent it all on int/acc stacc

[split maple]

Boated show pob

[earnest raven]

Everyone knows you farm Hogm for mirrors

[tranquil sedge]

what are you going to do with it

[golden phoenix]

The real farm is the friends we made along the way.

[soft perch]

where phrecia reveals of ascendancy changes

i need it

[thick goblet]

next week

[steady elk]

Hello again

[tranquil sedge]

whenever patch notes comes out

[pseudo axle]

all 800 divines of them

[night bone]

now, competing economically is one thing, but caring about your divs/hour is not something I can be arsed for

[steady elk]

After some more work I'm now reliable clearing t15+ maps

[thick goblet]

pog

[steady elk]

[tranquil sedge]

how is that not the same thing to you, even if at least in the first couple weeks

[pseudo axle]

I calculate in tings per minute

[night bone]

play to make money and kill stuff, how much money don't much matter to me

[pseudo axle]

for the dopamine hit

[stoic horizon]

divs per tick

[earnest raven]

The best part of poe is ignoring all the trade messages on my underpriced items

[split maple]

Ting portal scrolls

[steady elk]

I cream my pants everytime I see a div drop

[tranquil sedge]

i mean u can do anything you want for a decent divs/hr so its not much of a restriction

but at the same time theres a big difference in making 10d or 30d/hr

[earnest raven]

As is tradition

[pseudo axle]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Grinnin_Gin-1662/character/SlamSumoSam

this is my WIP build it ain't perfect yet

[potent bramble]

Dunno if you watch Empy, but he used the gnome sound for a div card in... something. I forget if that was the 1 million cards project recently or an old video. Either way it was great lol

[pseudo axle]

I need like

300+ more divines minimum to get fully kitted out

the grafts alone are like 100 div each for non-crap ones

I'm just using my old ones until I can get new ones lmao

[tranquil sedge]

i feel like this should just be something u test to find out

on ur trade league char

[split maple]

Fix grafts

[night bone]

I'm as happy with 1div per 8 hours as I am with 200/hour, and I probably average 4-5 per hour

[split maple]

These don't work on ci

[pseudo axle]

I'm aware they dont work on CI

[golden phoenix]

Oh right, grafts exist. I should look into if any of them are good for my build plan

[split maple]

And I would rly prioritize getting effect on that last large cluster

[pseudo axle]

I'm lazy and ran out of money

[split maple]

Just slap a random stoeming and random jolt on

No need for %melee early

[pseudo axle]

oh right jolt is insane isn't it

[split maple]

Tho it Will double your DPS when you get it

[tranquil sedge]

that poeninja doesn't look like that mirror picture

did u upgrade to this using that

[pseudo axle]

yes

[tranquil sedge]

damn lmao

[pseudo axle]

I wasn't going to re-level

[split maple]

20% more dmg by default, 30% more if +4 levels or instead 40% crit multi

[pseudo axle]

are you crazy

[split maple]

It's kinda gg

[tranquil sedge]

no no

[split maple]

Well more maximum dmg

[tranquil sedge]

i thought you'd make an even bigger slammer

some giga phys axe and stuff

[pseudo axle]

I was already a 200+ div fissure slam

with a 55 div axe

[tranquil sedge]

could become 1000 div slammer then

[pseudo axle]

I could have poured a mirror into it

but why bother

[tranquil sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/connor-snow-owned-slammed-gif-22144006

[tranquil sedge]

because big bonk

[pseudo axle]

I could be playing a better skill entirely

it was either int/acc, or some kinda degenerate nimis ranger

[tranquil sedge]

also
how good are u at upkeeping kingsmarch

[pseudo axle]

I fucking ran out of gold today because I paid those peasant fucks, they can go die in a hole

[tranquil sedge]

wat do t1/t0 unique prices look like on console for dust

on pc early league (first few weeks) its like a div per 1-2.5m dust

[pseudo axle]

I'm not on console

I just use a controller

on pc

[tranquil sedge]

o

[split maple]

I would prioritize 1. Settle grafts, 2. Clusters, 3. Simplex, 4. Hunter helmet with abysal (can be earlier it's cheaper craft), 5. Giga grafts

[pseudo axle]

y'all are living the repetitive wrist injury life I see

[tranquil sedge]

they day they give us hotswap controller and kb+m im switching to controller asap

[golden phoenix]

Okay so hardening uulgraft is an obvious choice for my build, sweet

[pseudo axle]

this all makes sense to me

thanks for the advice

[night bone]

I kind of wish they would remove gold, farming, and hirellings from Kingsmarch and then make it so metals auto-smelt and all rewards come from shipping metals. Then move mappers and recombinating to other mechanics.

[tranquil sedge]

next league consider buying rotas early if u dont like self-farming gold
farmers will use up like ~2.5-3m per 50m shipment for some context

shipments are like passive 1/2-3/4 mirror over a couple months or so

[tranquil sedge]

remove gold,
i dont get why gold droprates didn't go up more with async being added ngl

[split maple]

They did buff them somewhat tbf

[pseudo axle]

to keep bots down

presumably

[split maple]

Like if you aint running mappers Gold is allright

[tranquil sedge]

not nearly a lot
plus they nerfed it at the same time didnt they

w/ map effect and map mods

[pseudo axle]

and yeah I've done a bit of kingsmarch this league

[split maple]

Recombi Got expensive as fuck is a issue

[night bone]

I just think currency rewards should come from metals so that I have more reason to run ores in maps

[split maple]

But like I get per map enough Gold for 4h of farmers

Just doing semijuicy t17

[tranquil sedge]

metals do need a reworking of their rewards ye

[night bone]

cause there's no reason to run ores as they are now

[pseudo axle]

I was at almost 0 gold when I started trading today

[tranquil sedge]

well ores are still useful but not for their own rewards

just for the mobs/effects they add to the map instead

[pseudo axle]

I spent probably, mmmm, almost 800k gold in trading costs today?

[tranquil sedge]

the actual ore itself is kinda dumpster

[potent bramble]

I think that'd be a bit too strong, but it'd be cool if there was a way to allocate X% of the ore to be used to make new equipment for the farmers or something

[split maple]

I would say ores are for tattoos but they rly too slow to farm for that

[night bone]

all that is done better by other things tho

[split maple]

There is nothing competitive with bismuth

[tranquil sedge]

true
but anytime i see bismuth in a map im happy 😄

[potent bramble]

Like you can give them either a flat amount or a % of your collected ore, and it gives a bonus to crop production that depletes over time

[pseudo axle]

I just want them to improve ground loot out of the poverty zone

along with diversifying farming strats

[tranquil sedge]

undo of 3.26 nerfs would go a long way towards that

[night bone]

I guess, but it's a one-and-done at most, and you can't guarantee it anyway

[tranquil sedge]

and when breach tree is gone it will help too

[night bone]

it's also the most boring

[pseudo axle]

like kingsmarch is completely fine

its a very lucrative and relatively straightforward mechanic

comparatively quite easy with almost everyting else in the game if you can sustain gold costs

[tranquil sedge]

only reasons im okay with kingsmarch in its current state (again, okay, not happy) is because priority is shippers > mappers and gold is easy enough to upkeep for shippers with relatively little effort

[pseudo axle]

to be clear I can sustain gold costs, I was just low on gold when I started trading and that was making me mad af

[tranquil sedge]

i objectively still dislike kingsmarch tho because of its mobile-game type gameplay

i dont like time outside game to influence my in-game progress

[pseudo axle]

I'd be inclined to agree with that

however

[tranquil sedge]

i dont like that mappers take real time to complete even when im not playing the game

i dont like that gold is consumed when not playing

shipments run when not playing

[pseudo axle]

there is something to be said about the dopamine hit of getting a juicy shipment when you log in

[tranquil sedge]

its way too close to fomo for me

[tranquil sedge]

i love shipments themselves

[pseudo axle]

I agree that more could be done to make kingsmarch more user friendly

[tranquil sedge]

i think its great that casual andys have a source to farm a mirror evey league if they want without any effort

[crisp plinth]

i hate the mobile game vibes of settlers, shouldnt be in the game

[tranquil sedge]

but i hate the 'fomo' feel

like some of this gold cost bullshit is just because you have to spend gold when not playing lol

[split maple]

Settlers are mechanically bad for the game but economicaly good for it

Cheap mirrors are a good thing

[tranquil sedge]

yeah

[split maple]

Just needs smh else to fill that niche

[tranquil sedge]

economically and drop-wise its fucking great

for both trade and ssf

[potent bramble]

I actually felt like it took a lot of the pressure off of playing so much, b/c you can just set it and step away for a week if you need to. And if you don't want to spend the gold, you just pull it out of town and/or unassign your workers

[tranquil sedge]

but what faust said, it does not feel like poe

[tranquil sedge]

yea but that feels very not-poe like

it feels like clash of clans or other mobile games

[pseudo axle]

people have mocked mechanics for not feeling like poe for years

[tranquil sedge]

log in click thingy log out

[tranquil sedge]

surely one day copium 🤞

[pseudo axle]

kingsmarch is one league mechanic out of eleven bajjillion

[split maple]

Come from Job, send out ships, go Cook or smh, after 2h go Play the game for me

[pseudo axle]

I think there are a lot more problematic and less fun mechanics in the game

[tranquil sedge]

yea but no other league mechanic will print literally a mirror for almost zero effort if you want it to over a few months

[split maple]

Rn I feel like game doesn't have enoung mechanics tbh, like I was considering what to use to get mobs into the maps and there Just isn't a lot

[pseudo axle]

so?

[split maple]

Like if you Just want to spam juiced maps what will you do

Blight is slow, harbs are slow, other stuff kinda isn't a lot of mobs

[potent bramble]

Oh for sure, if you lean into it it would deff lessen the overall game. I was thinking more in the sense how I went to Florida for a couple days just before Christmas, to see my Grandfather for his 90th. It was nice to be able to set up and then know that it'd be good for the few days while I was away

And moreover, I didn't feel like I was putting myself at a disadvantage by just being out of game for that time

[tranquil sedge]

sorry i will add to that

• without having to even play the game for the most part

[night bone]

e'eryone storm prepped?

[pseudo axle]

they do have to play the game to get gold and sustain costs, they have to micromanage the town, etc. I agree that its easy but who cares.

its hurting no one

[tranquil sedge]

thats the silver lining ig

[pseudo axle]

its not dumpstering the economy

[tranquil sedge]

economy needs kingsmarch too much

[pseudo axle]

if anything the tattoos are helping

[tranquil sedge]

oh no not at all

its fucking great for the economy

[night bone]

kinda wish phrecia was out this weekend since I'm'a barricade meself for this storm

[split maple]

Game rly needs active source of tattoos

[pseudo axle]

I agree can we get phrecia early for the storm

[pseudo axle]

THIS

THIS

[tranquil sedge]

you in the US?

[night bone]

yeah and

[pseudo axle]

herald tattoos being an arm and a leg is crazy

[tranquil sedge]

good luck 👍

[tranquil sedge]

wat about raw divs

[split maple]

I need 6 more heralds to finish my tree

[tranquil sedge]

still waiting on sanctum buffs for that? xd

[potent bramble]

Nah. I'm from the Midwest. We do this every year lol

[split maple]

Settled on running much more ulti than I would prefer

[night bone]

I just noticed you a noita player srev... Noita ❤️

[tranquil sedge]

i have it open rn LOL

i binged it for a few hundred hours then took a loooong break

yesterday night i installed apotheosis im gonna start trying out modded noita now

i wiped my progress, fresh start leggo

[night bone]

modded Noita is great

[tranquil sedge]

my first time 😄

not knowing what im gonna encounter is gonna be funnn

[eternal hill]

Now boot up a stream and we can "assist" you

[golden phoenix]

I don't trust this guy.

[night bone]

When playing Noita, you can't trust yourself, let alone anyone else

#1 cause of death in Noita is the player

[golden phoenix]

Can you ever trust yourself?

[stoic horizon]

never

[soft perch]

should i commit to pobbing a surfyboi

just for it to get changed

[golden phoenix]

Yes.

[night bone]

sparksurfer is currently the only build I'm even considering

[golden phoenix]

Have you considered considering poison divine ire delirious harbinger?

[stoic horizon]

[golden phoenix]

I wouldn't recommend it but that's what I'll be playing.

[night bone]

harbinger has maybe two nodes worth playing, and I don't think there's any bloodlines that make it worthwhile

[soft perch]

same lul

unpredictability fury valve reverse chill spork

[golden phoenix]

Out of curiosity, which nodes?

[night bone]

the cooldown one and the survivability one

[soft perch]

harb is probably great for impending doom

[stoic horizon]

hex aoe is goated too

well in this case only the temp chains line is good

but for ID hex aoe is great

[soft perch]

ya

[night bone]

y'know what'd be a cool unique... "Increases and reductions to action speed are reversed"

[stoic horizon]

reverse chill moment

but for everything

[soft perch]

delirium shoe moment

[stoic horizon]

would be slightly op

[night bone]

but you can't use onslaught

[stoic horizon]

true

just don't use onslaught

ez

and dont click shrines

[night bone]

it could work as a t0 ammy, since the ammy slot is so contested

[stoic horizon]

make it boots to troll ppl wanting to use beacon

[night bone]

or a chest so you can't use it with doppelganger guise

oh, no... not that one, what chest am I thinking of

[shadow socket]

what happens when you're frozen

you just move at infinite speed in every direction

[night bone]

frozen is 100% less action speed

not an increase or reduction

[shadow socket]

nerd

[hoary scarab]

nerd

[night bone]

🤓

[golden phoenix]

It's more or less increasingly clear that you've got reduced capacity.

[soft perch]

bro is overencumbered

[shadow socket]

let me eat some cheese rq

[night bone]

I'm no beast of burden

[golden phoenix]

What kind?

[tranquil sedge]

summoning level 96 requirement for you, mister pack yak

[night bone]

I just ate some cajun cheese curds

[shadow socket]

idk whatever kind the wheels are made out of in skyrim

[night bone]

gouda

[hoary scarab]

is that an rs3 reference

[tranquil sedge]

ye

[hoary scarab]

in this economy

not even a mammoth smh

[eternal hill]

yes I need it for build doood

[tranquil sedge]

okay mammoth for u

[hoary scarab]

tortle best boy

[tranquil sedge]

pfft

bunyip or bust

[soft perch]

kinda hope the next elder scrolls game is good

skyrim was genuinely rly fun

[eternal hill]

Skyrims you mean

[steady elk]

feeling burnt out once again

not sure what im doing

[shadow socket]

i played 3 hours of skyrim literally today

giga modded of course

[steady elk]

don't even know how the guide im following is doing 2m bleed dps and meanwhile im doing like 500k

[eternal hill]

open up 2 pobs, go to calc tab

[hoary scarab]

bleed lmao

[dreamy charm]

bleed melee?

[steady elk]

trauma boneshatter jugg

[dreamy charm]

dose it use Ryslatha's Coil and blood tincture?

[steady elk]

no and yes

[dreamy charm]

coil is huge dps for melee bleed

[crisp plinth]

I kinda wanna ballista in the event but it looks kinda lackluster

[steady elk]

well the guide im following doesn't use the former

[stoic horizon]

kboc ballistas whisperer should be fine

or maybe even ps of archmage

[crisp plinth]

Oh true wands can also be ballistas I thought mostly artillery but this seems nicer

[eternal hill]

https://youtu.be/-RZsRFrHcXk When was this added

[steady elk]

is there a way to directly compare 2 pobs in the ui?

[crisp plinth]

Nope but you can open pob twice and set them next to eachother

[shadow socket]

are you using windows?

if so open up both pobs to calcs

then hit windows + left arrow on one

and windows + right arrow on the other

[eternal hill]

You can also click on a specific stat to keep the breakdown open

[soft perch]

@shadow socket how health pool on surfcaster if im EB

do i just equip the doppelganger item

[shadow socket]

i mean

you could MoM

[soft perch]

part of why im EB is for bladefall of trarthus

so i cant overdo mana pool

tbh thats fine still, cuz small mana pool + es = trarthus doesnt pay much es

mom eb turns off recharge tho if i get hit

[shadow socket]

yeah that might be an issue

[soft perch]

wait isnt it just a devouring diadem angle

[shadow socket]

depends on tree

if it saves a lot of points then sure

[soft perch]

well diadem also forces recharge and has feast of flesh

[steady elk]

issue seems to be here

no idea what i screwed up lmao

[shadow socket]

I always forget that mod being on the item

[steady elk]

my mainhand is better than the guide's

[shadow socket]

is it?

sure doesnt look that way

[tight plinth]

link both pobs

[steady elk]

oh nvm you're right

it's missing a 20% chance to cause bleeding on hit

[shadow socket]

im way too poe 2 brained rn, need to pob out a build to get my brain straight

[steady elk]

https://pobb.in/7kRAu1YF1cnH

lol

[soft perch]

his weapon is much better than yours

[steady elk]

it's supposed to be midgame axe btw

ill relink

[shadow socket]

for starters you dont have pride

[steady elk]

https://pobb.in/PmzKLQ-Pon1g

[soft perch]

youre missing a lot of stuff

[steady elk]

im having mana issues when i run it so ran blood and sand instead

[shadow socket]

youre also missing a phys dot multi crafter suffix

a bloodsap tincture

[soft perch]

wait 1 sec

u just dont have enemy is moving ticked in pob

[steady elk]

where do i enable that?

[soft perch]

right side

[shadow socket]

yeah just noticed that too

[steady elk]

oh

suddenly it's a lot better

kek

[soft perch]

u should try and get the ring crafts

and get pride back in

non-channelling skills cost -7 mana

[shadow socket]

you want 20 quality on your vulnerability

[soft perch]

and 20 qual on ur boneshatter

[shadow socket]

thats one of the easiest sources of bleed aggravation