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I think the more axes a game has to juice a player's power and loot, the more interesting they are.
it's one of my issues with D2
all the builds are just "stack a bunch of skill levels to X"
is this where i can bring up how weird it is that poe2 gear rolls up to like fucking +7 gem levels lol
and even +3 +4 +5 is relatively common?
yup and then they're shooting themselves in the foot with insane content cycle times
Skill trees, items, league-specific modifiers, end-game modifying trees, etc.
yeah, I think it's part of their goal to make PoE2 more D2-ish
was that a thing in d2
lotta levels
the more levers a player has to manipulate their own power, the more fun a game can get imho
yeah
its why we poe1 players like poe1
lotta levers
so much of D2 building is just stacking a bunch of skill levels
i wonder when chris wilson's new game will come out
im keeping my expectations at ground level
after being burned with brighter shores from andrew gower lol
skill levels is like the least interesting lever too, because it typically just makes the skill generically do more damage and that's it
one of the big selling points of PoE is all the stuff that makes skills do different things
that's literally the original selling point, support gems that change how skills function
and then PoE2 seems to have reverted
also things being hard to get and mods being hard to roll works coz you just have so much variety in what you can settle with
replace one gem for another
substitue one mod for another
yoloooo
very on-rails
i generally dont have much faith in any of these "famous game staff leaves to make own game" things, especially if that is a point they use to sell themselves.
Of course there are exceptions but it often turns out the team behind the person was just as important
very very on-rails
I hated the 0.1 gem system
skills only get supports that make them do more of the thing they're already doing
i still don't know why weapons have skills tied to them lol
absolutely atrocious in terms of requiring you to just use one of everything
I mean the weapon skills thing I can see being kinda interesting, right?
they walked that one back didn't they
they did
the suppor gem limit?
because it was atrocious
yeah, now you can once again slap the best supports onto every gem
it limited build creativity tbh
you still had "best support gems" under the old system
idk
i think that a large part of poe identity is - use anything with any build within the huuuge limits of the game, even tho sometimes there are restrictions
but poe2 seems to want to put a heck of a lot more restrictions
which is interesting, but I feel like gets weird in a system like PoE2 where every single skill gem can be a 6-link
Zoo in PoE1 is defined by your gem socket limits, so not every minion can be a 6-link
and that just incentivizes either making everything giga weak or ur support gems are all damage on tuesdays type of situation
'everyone will use everything so everything must have friction to balance it'
yeah, as much as the whole "one of each support gem" system sucked ass, it existed for a specific reason, that being as the balancing lever against perfect 6-links on every skill at once
there are still perfect 6-links in a one-gem limit system!
it just means that those 'perfect' six links are finnicky and annoying to setup!
the thesis was that all support gems would be mechanically shifting, like volley,arrow nova,unleash,deadly ailments no?
yeah, but you can't run the same perfect six-link on all your skills
so? most builds don't do that anyway
like I said, the single support gem system definitely sucked ass
and also 'this is the exact setup we ultimately want all players to use'
so some skills itd be optimal to run on a ´1l
but now we've got a somewhat different problem
that being that support gems can't be too powerful or else you'd just slap it on everything
that was the point, no?
i had fun chatting but im gonna head to bed fellas have a nice one
I thought sekhem in Poe 2 was bad, I mean, just not my coup of tea.
But sanctum is "you can't dodge roll, but if you take hit - you die"
from what I played in 0.1, very few supports were mechanically shifting, it was mostly just "damage to a hyperspecific skill with these exact tags" or "do more of the thing the skill already does"
yea, sanctum is cancer if you don't optimize for it
smh, cringe, that was the one thing I liked about poe2 in theory
maybe it's gotten better in the last few leagues though? Who knows
that would require me to play PoE2
I mean. In theory its appealing to have to press this complicated skill rotation every mob pack.
In practice its extremely tedious work.
is it appealing in theory?
currently in poe1 supports are mainly just "go into pob and pick whatever is the highest", with the very rare chance to actually do something interesting like click woke ancestral call
because even in theory that sounds like ass
I mean some people dont like one-button builds in poe 1
"optimize for it" = spend divs on good relics.
nah
you need a build with fullscreen autoaim
relics can't save you too well
relics you pick to get more loot
no one uses the defensive relics
PBOD, swt astral proj, probably frostblink mines and such
I mean, even in PoE1 very few builds are truly one button, but they just usually are strong enough that their main skill can clear white mobs with no setup, and reserve their "setup" buttons for actual tough enemies like bosses
I wonder if my volcanic fissue of snaking build can do sanctum
probably
vfos/pconcob should be solid as well
historically tornado shot with nimis for fullscreen freeze was played, but I think that one fell out of favour
I'm just annoyed that even the most juicy of farming strats kinda suck in poe 1 right now
pconcob, first time ive seen that acronym
meanwhile poe 2 had the temple fiasco and while they reverted it, now I don't really want to dive into it
there's some genuinely one-button builds, but that's mainly because they've either automated everything (at a loss in power) to get the one-button gameplay, or because the build needs to have a bunch of empty gem sockets for some reason
my take is that poe1 builds in general doesnt even have less button usage than poe2, the skills just feel more responsive and better to click lol
poe2 bad
atleast if you look at a typical leaguestarter
eg: Blood Sacrament
for both games
poe1 goat
honestly this isn't a bad assessment
like, my current FRoSS build is actually a four button build
everything has a windup of ten thousand years in poe 2
I click Arcanist Brand to cast two curses, Graft skill to sap, and Withering Step to inflict Wither
then start holding down FRoSS
I could complete an entire game of league in the time it takes my marauder to finish a poe 2 slam
be a chad cws and press no buttons
nah, I don't have the sockets, plus I like having it as a button to run fast through things
presses a button sometimes*
why is doryani's machinarium 14 divs?
it's in challenges
oh challenges ic
buy some Comprehensive Scouting Reports
they add Doryani's to the Kirac pool for red maps
just wait for someone in global to sell slots tbh
it's probably cheaper than comprehensives
based
I mean I don't care about challenges that much I was just wondering if there was money to be made
I mean, sure, gotta go farm that one specific Delve boss
I mean I know what boss you're talking about, I just kinda dont want to play delve lol
well
maybe I should
is delve even profitable anymore?
unless you hit like uber-high tier delve
eh its something different, guess I can try it
WE RICK
I was around during original delve
I was there when the dynamite caches were placed
fair enough yeah
alright niko you big fucking nerd, where's my azurite
I just mean that that's where a lot of the per-delve profit comes from, so it's even more important to at least peek behind the wall to see if there's something there
in previous leagues I'd usually be pretty lazy about checking them
tbh everything is profitable if you have an efficient build for it and play efficiently
(except breach , breach is bad, don't be like breach)
i was talking about mechanics not bosses, yeah some bosses suck
Actually thats not true
Its a 50 / 50 chance at profit

venarius is so irrelevant i legit do not run cortex in SSF once i get the flask
so its relevant
just dozens of cortex taking dust in the stash due to rotations
until you get the flask
also some methods definitely lose money if you run them in T16s instead of well-rolled T17s
i mean i dont specifically care about the flask
i just stop doing it at all if i get it
i only run cortex when i want to do feared if i run out of ubercortex
I once made 600 divs of profit off farming cortex
pre flask nerf
i give up, im just gonna go ancestral commander, gencry
well not anymore
i used to yeah i guess
poor atziri must be feeling so left out nowadays :/
i think i did 0 uber atziri this league now that i think about it
ggg hears this they will lower flask droprate
tho also feared isnt all that relevant once you get the other flask 
they should buff the flask and put it on uber venarius :^)
to match the other uber flasks
also when do we get UBER mageblood that works only on unique flasks?
Clearly they need to add Uber Feared, for if you witness all bosses as Uber and also Uber Maven
So Uber Maven is also in the arena
can't wait to see if they added new stuff or just used the extra campain boss mechanics from the gauntlet
give us some crazy BS
surely notes today
it's saturday for them right now isn't it
their usual league start release time is in 23 min
so unless they release leagues on saturday idk
i love HH but man i HATE the effect that makes you teleport on top of enemies randomly and you die
they do release on saturdays nz time for the new content leagues
dont we all
yea, I assume to maximize opening days player count
thats why its being released a day earlier this time
cuz its just an event
dont wanna have people work on the weekend lol
can't you right click to remove it?
its just when i get it randomly and tele in and just die
my merc had HH, but I never ran one myself
if im dealing with fire damage/light radius is there a forbidden flesh on templar i should get
im guardian right now
figure id ask before i look through every option
could take ignore res if you aren't bossing/aren't uses res reducing curses
hmmmm that is good
i did just put on awakened fire pen
what is the allocation called?
inevitable judgement
thank you
have to be crit
time to save up
I'd look through them tbh, there are a couple good ones here
true i think i am going to liquidate some of my builds so i can pump all of it into this build
theres only so much damage kinetic rain of impact can do but i can tell its getting stronger


weird, what node is making Niko spawn strongboxes?
is strongbox + sulphite a strategy 
oh, doomed spirits is the one
neat
Hi, I play poe2 and I'm interested in trying poe1 on the Legacy of Phrecia Event (for the 2 boxes 😅 ), is there a place where I can find builds for this event? also recommendations of builds are welcome
Thank you
no patch notes yet, so no build guides to recommend
any info if/when phrecia changes will be released by GGG?
gg
gz
"The Mirror of Kalandra! Ultimate. Immeasurable. Indescribable."

Lessgo
this is not the first time I've owned a mirror
but never did I think I'd get one as a raw drop
holy shit
Anyone know if theres a good ascendancy for kinetic fusillade phrecia
Clearly you must now immortalize it by mirroring a meme-y piece of gear and keeping it forever 
Bonkers, even
That's a weird way to say "waste on garbage" lmao
and thats on currency exchange which might not be the best tool to check
blind prophet, surfcaster and scav
well I'm gonna make a wander or something super juiced
so there is that
I don't know if that's high or low value anymore, 800 divs is probably more value than I've collected in my entire playtime lol
Though I'd bet if I liquidated I have a lot more
my current build is around 200 divines total
im really enjoying my guardian kinetic rain
im about to overhaul the entire tree and throw new gems on there
i need more tank
Surfcaster, scav, blind prophet if random directions don't brick the skill.
what's the most broken mirror tier build in the league atm
Int/Accu stack for numbers, herald stack for mapping
herald stacking sounds fun
random direction and return is actually good for KF
yeah I wanted to try something with nimis
kinda want to focus either on uber blasting, and/or deep delve
mana/res stack kboc heiro is insane too
well yeah i mean the average drop rate is like what 10k hours for one
I assume these can do both potentially
are the unique campaign bosses getting all of those upgrades from the gauntlet? sounds pretty intense reading the wiki
Then int/Accu for sure
heraldstack will have hardass time delving without big changes to get tank
Heraldstack isn't that good numerically
herald stack I assume is just giga clearspeed autobombing
Yea
probably good for scarab farming
PBOD for single target
folks did pbod elementalist last leg to like 3k delve ssf
maybe, we dont know yet
whats pbod
herald should be bigger dps than past version
penance brand of dissipation
its gonna be intense though yes 
tho yea comparing to inquis shite feels 0dps 
anyone got a good pob for int stacker
i'm gonna start with daughter of oshabi and hope i can bum an aul kill off someone
for the synergies at work there?
ya
gemless build sounds funny tbh
although honestly I'm thinking of blind prophet abyss jewel stacking
all my gems will be in staff and gloves
I was theorizing a funny build with lightpoacher shenanigans a while ago
almost got it to work
and that ascendency might be what makes it good enough to try
i heard lightpoacher behemoth was good
hale negator is also good
with MoM
since you're stacking life and mana per abyss jewel
makes sense
scanning through all the foulborns i cannot make up a single good idea for phrecia other than maybe rathpith
you could probably make a hybrid setup with es/mana/life leech going on all at once
wait, are int/accuracy stackers marauders?
Juggies yea
my plan is ball lightning archmage to stack vines and poisons fast
*I CAN JUST CHANGE MY ASCENDENCY THEN I DON'T NEED TO RE-LEVEL
Foulborn claws let you intstack
Tho a question you Will be very soon asking yourself is if simplexes exists on console:D
(how much are jugg AS FFs btw, chief should be nicer on budget, no?)
since i'll have so many empty sockets i can use untouched soul for big flat mana
Oh console
I'm not on console
maybe some sort of CI Zombies w/ Foulborn Baron?
hello has anyone posted any good pobs for phrecia i want ideas
much less strain on my hands
i have good idea
uninstall league of legends

we're all mostly waiting on patch notes since GGG said there would be ascendency balance changes
i know
i just wanted to know if anyone has any good ideas that wont get gutted on monday
animate weapon is your friend
I am pretty sure my idea Will be gutted on monday
how would we know if they'll get gutted on monday
just logged in to play some akshan
It's slap indigon on whisperer and do whatever
trust me youd know
any build that isnt whisperer/blind prophet/ancestral commander/scavenger should be safe
Surfcaster may get touched too
everything else is kinda boring
oshabi might have the shrine nodes changed a bit
to avoid the idol abuse
but the rest is probably safe
oshabi without setlers enchant
Nice!
now that wand skills are actually good the sacred wisp node is unironically solid
how do u do single target dmg with wands
You either do kboc and get milijon overlaps or you do hh and do ice prison
Or you Just get enough dmg not to care, like strstackers do
fusillade has hilarious single target
what is ice prison
i was close to 100M in ssf
not sure if i wanna mess with skill duration
The rare monster mod that makes circle
Your projs get caught in it and well boss dies

its sad that AoE spreads kinetic rain
it feels...weird going to sell a mirror through the currency exchange
it would be such a cool single target skill
blight cheese
i was doing ravaged blights on a 2d build cuz those towers are so broken lmao
yeah they litteraly dont move
Anything is single target with enough damage
on some setups
hh + steal frost wall = infinite dmg if you have 1fps to hold kb
As long as it's kboc you rly don't need cheese
if i go wand i would go fusillade tho , its so damn fun
Just squaller with +tornado
but bugged graft + multimod wand is enough to t17s on kb
Tbf Impact gets 3 overlaps most of the time which isnt bad at all
And you can use knockback on the cis one
3 overlaps is garbage
its far from good damage compared to fusillade tbh
did some nonsense like this as a leaguestarter
with KB + woke fork u just instagibbed ravaged bosses using ice prison
When will the patch notes for phrecia be?
just set 30 in pob 
Frenzy lmao
fussilade doesnt rly scale because of the gear requirements but yea if you dont have that much currency then just sticking with fussilade is your best option
That's a funny one

i would heavily disagree
played it in ssf and was bursting ubers
fusillade has some hilariously fast oath of spring ramp , like sub 1 second 100% shock
i just went pure lightning and replica heatshiver oath of spring and damage went through the roof
if you go full glass then its fine just like any other skill
i mean if i switch to any other wand skill i have a lot less damage
would need archdemon crown well crafted helm and penance to beat it on similar budget
well yea and you are locked to tree + locked out of bunch of defensive options and have bunch of gear slots locked
yeah
so its not rly a build where someone would want to invest bunch of currency into
as there isnt rly much to do past certain point
if you want to invest its a helm thing
its also a weird league starter since it does require 3 uniques and quite a lot of points on tree
luckily i did it before it got popular and everythign was cheap
like you can roll more ele damage +%crit +hypothermia + less duration + conc
it still levels better than other wand skills ngl
might use it on an oshabi at some point if i get a helm for it
yeah the leveling is insane jsut cast and shield charge , the only issue is you have some weak timing around red maps until you buy or loot reduced duration rings/amulet
A league without elementalist
what a world
f/f elementalist gonna be so expensive bro
if i do a shadow i'm probably running fusillade + arakaali envy for campain , that would be some hilarious levels of damage early on with 0 gear
i hope they buff KR next league and fix fussilade targetting
yeah giving a bit more autotargetting range would be nice
feels a bit weird to have to maneuver the char
its not even range just make the targetting full circle
i never had any issue with targeting
if mobs are too far you have to manually turn your char
and the targetting range isnt that high
i was missing with fussilade on goddamn kitava xd
tbh it seems kinda weird
for them to make a monthlong phrecia league
right before 3.28
in my head it feels counterproductive
might be some form of testing
but i will say , fusillade with maxed reduced duration and spellslinger warp was the most hilarious build i played in a while , litteraly gliding around bosses
yeah possibly. but it just doesn't feel well planned out at all
idols
i rly hope they arent planning to bring idols to main game ngl
i really like it
it could be like jewels on atlas or something like that
blueprint is SO much better with idols
the management is a bit annoying but it like being able to really invest into ONE thing
we already kinda had that with the conqueror zones and the rollable shit and not being able to farm mechanic without getting the shitty giga rare harbinger thingy was certainly pretty ass
why they seem nice
its more adapted to 3/4 months leagues than 3 weeks event tho
can you just take this and do a chaos attack/spell build and totally ignore 🕷️ ?
Sorry I dunno why I replied to you specifically
🐶
wasnt that w/o atlas tree
it was
yeah sounds solid
that was during my like 3 years i didnt play
i just realized, isn't like 99% of BIS belt for builds either headhunter,mageblood,tides or darkness enthroned
the 1% are the synth belters
What would be a good power charge maxing crit chaos damage shadow setup ?
or more importantly what would be fun
atlas tree is basically just evolution of all those shitty buyable "i can do this content now mechanics"
yeah you just use mageblood if you have it unless you're a minion build or want to run HH
idols are basically jsut step back
and tides if you're a dirty PF
so true king
The belt monopoly
the illusion of belt choice
well there are maven belts as well
someone should make that meme
it's a trade league mechanic lol
technicallly but even charge stackers often run mageblood because capping res with full uniques is canker
imo the main problem of endgame is that there isnt any real customizability of strats
pathfinders were last bastion of stygians but now they have tides
so who needs rare belts
scarabs r fairly 1 dimensional
Why would charge stackers be using full uniques ?
we need OP synths for belts
really? I think there's pretty good customizability
there was a lot of endgame variety and customizability
last league
blame ggg for deleting everything every time endgame is fun
Envy only gives 101 to 141 that's really bad for just an attack/spell build isn't it ?
I see why this goes spiders................
usually its power charge stacker so its unique wand/shield for +3 , unique helm with +1 power charge corrupt , badge unique amulet , +1 charge rings or the curse per power charge unique
woah
envy falls off around level 60
120 is really good early on
Do you have to take relakesh booties ?
so in the end its a LOT of uniques
really juicy ones
give us global evasion/armour % prefixes
+1 flask charge per second
Is there a way to see your previous whispers between you and another player or just in general? From like the other day etc…?
I do also think that mageblood is too powerful
i dont
should be in client.txt maybe
logs on your pc
however that logo might make u unable to do it
i think mageblood is terrible design
its giga convenient
definitely not overrated lmao. it's the best belt in the game
makes flasks worse for everyone else
embrace megablood
i think they can remove the enkindling + mb interaction
or well mageblood itself is whatever but mageblood + enkindlings is dogshit
buff all unique flasks and add a line to mageblood making you unable to use unique flasks
yeah
holy
(and nerf pathfinder before she breaks the game AGAIN)
i mean you dont even need to do the second part
just make half of unique flasks not absolute trash
huge writhing jar spawns 5 worms per use now
i remember when it was actually good 🙁
vinkar being biggest joke in universe also funny
and vinktars was joke before the unique flask nerfs as well, forgotten flask :d
you can unironically use vinktar this league to proc the graft giving you 40% phys as extra lightning
finally a use
i farmed it just to test the interaction
didnt end up using it
It has its niches
The shock spread and lightning leech can be nice
well you kinda farm it anyway for the unique map challenge
remember when vinktar made you basically immortal to anything not oneshot? pepperidge farm remembers 
yea what about the 4 other mods that should be relevant on the flask :d
6% pen, 40 flat
giga
to be fair
Those arent that great
But the others are fine
poe1 is kinda dead lmao
ggg basically only has interns working on it
at this point
why hasn't anyone made a video about the most broken flasks in the history of poe
any poe boomers who can make a vid
instant 15k views on youtube
others? the mod pool is flat to spells, pen, flat to attacks, shock effect, rest of the mods are shared
that mod pool is all garbage
what is this most broken flask that you speak of
and 125% inc charges used on top 
idunno, the best version of divination distillate, some unique flasks that were opier back then
do they even have that? last time we thought that they just had people pingponging as they cant even split people into 2 teams :d
something something soul ripper
that was vinktar
i saw at least 1 video like that
those vids are all garbage usually
Legacy soul ripper is what enables infinite vaal IC on standard right?
something like that
So when playing Smite
You just run Divine Judgment and then occasionally hit vaal smite + inc duration to keep the aura up ?
legacy soul catcher was the one that enabled most vaal builds before
why make a video about poe1 and get 15k views
when you can make a video about poe2 and get 50k
lol
ripper i guess only use is vaal ic, or maybe legacy ripper + new ripper on top
yeah they simply don't have the staff to support both games lol
being fully immortal from immortal call is strange
Ggg i need patch notes pleasee
i think they mentioned starting 3.28 they have at least a partial permanent poe1 team now
fwiw most of their stronger staff is focused on 2 now
now this is juicy
like viper is 2 only as far as i know
Could you run a magic find flask on paladins 40% inc magic flask effect node ?
i wonder how much this is on trade
Big brain move
I already respecc'd and everything
tbf im not exactly sure what viper does i just know hes a chill guy
He works on poe 2 last I heard
he's a game designer
nice reply smh my head
I'll believe it when i see it lol
Can confirm Viper is a chill dude.
yh all i know is he looks at the code cuz every once in a while i ping him with some crackhead idea and he comes back after checking code and goes "no it doesnt work like that" and crushes my dreams
Lily is chill too i suppose
I've been known to ocassionally be chill.
it's already hard enough to hire software engineers in general
now imagine your condition is they have to move to NZ
i think they're probably pretty understaffed
you like frozen legion, afaik cold dmg chills 
for how much work they gotta do
You make a very compelling argument
i should go to NZ for a trip
I can't believe I didn't think to check my gold reserves
would be fun
NZ is nice iirc but there's not much there
you can go snorkeling at the GBR
whats the GBR
good software engineers, theres plenty of indians to go around :d
nah this is divination distillate
Bruh thats not NZ
would unironically rather have the version wth a bit less quant and all res instead of max res
if you go snorkelling in nz and end up in the great barrier reef, you got a bit lost
NZ is a great holiday destination anyway
he was lead skill designer of all druid stuff most recently
Could easily spend a month there
yeah but he can just take a trip to queenslands while he's at it
Longer if u like outdoors
Thats like saying if ur visiting new york u can just pop over to vancouver while ur there
Surely australia is pretty close.
Surely
i would not want to go australia
btw is phrecia actually sc trade/hcssf only?
it's about a 3 hour flight to that part of queensland
is nz the mexico of australia?
I mean. it's pretty close iirc
that is a crazy statement
saw ziz say that and the post kinda makes it seem that way
Its several hours on a plane
that's pretty close bro...
relative to anything else from nz, yes
What's the coolest pet you have seen someone own in NZ?
Headdesk
since ggg is lurking rn can one of you suggest adding idol wombs to breach tree for phrecia, would be cool
that'd be siiiick but seems rather close to launch
For example, if you were visitng the USA, and visiting SF. I would suggest checking out LA while you're here, which is also a several hour flight.
yeah, would require a bit too much work I think
Thats a 90 minute flight u potato
can just add idols as a random drop to wombs
Auckland to cairns is eight hours because theres no direct flight
it's closer to 3-4 hours
due to LAX being giga ass
Ok let me break it down for u sir
When we quote flight times
We quote airtime
Because every airport sucks
that's not true
I was going to make an arc ignite elementalist
some airports suck more than others
but fireball ignite elementalist has way more dps
really? I took that direct flight like 20 years ago, must have changed
I wonder if that's normal or if i'm doing smth wrong
Yea i just looked u have to stop in brisbane
Apparently
Arc is pretty bad
So its like a full day of travel
hmm, yeah that would complicate things
alright so now I have to farm gold to afford all the trades I need to make lol
Shitting on dis's terrible opinions is boring i can do that whenever i want
both fireball and arc are pretty bad ignite skills, but arc is at least more fun ignite skill
Why are we talking about random ignite skills, phrecia surely isnt the venue
No elementalist
See here
yoink another cat gif to my collection
honestly sounds like a poor person problem
wdym the most staple fire skill in the world is not a good ignite skill
AI slop smh
if you can just pay for a private plane it's 3 hours lmao
yea, poe doesnt rly work like that :d
Fireball had tech years ago, and has never recovered from losing that afaik
VFB is still alright as a hit based skill
Actual fireball has been basically unplayable for years
we got good ignite attacks
Flame blast is the most straightforward, wave of conviction
does that count
yea vfb is one of best actual vaal skills i think

i love infernal blow
as last time i was looking at them the options were basically just vfb vbv vls and uuh
Divine ire go brrrrr
Is that the skill the witch starts with?
vaal fissure
looks super easy to get soul gain prevention to 0 in the incoming phrecia league , if you REALLY want a fireball build you could run vaal fireball
rest vaal skills are all garbage
Yes
Yes
vaal absolution hits like a truck
Why would anyone play fireball in league? We play fireball in standard
i tried vaal domination but the huge guards are too slow
Infinite VFB sounds like a bop tbh
oh right vaal absoluition i geuss is a thing
cold snap?
Vaal flicker woespike impale LOGIN
I know what the good bit of that idea is
Its not the vaal bit
vaal absolution is omega cheap to get going too, the +5 vaal skill gloves carry you to 4 stones
Don’t Vaal skills need kills in order to activate?
Oh btw are there some gloves/helmet I can socket an ignite attack into to approximate a 6l
with just architect and the gloves you're already at +8
There are some ways around that, especially in the new Phrecia event
you can get easily 1 or 2 souls per second and very low soul cost
u get 6 vaal souls every second if you deal 2% of a unique enemies life btw
so if u get soul gain prevention low enough u can chain duration vaal skills relatively easily
Vaal fireball needs nimis
the architect one is a massive 50% reduced
Reduced soul gain prevention duration is additive with reduced duration on skills with that line right?
yeah
yes
wait holy crap auras dont have the thing Gluttony of Elements has where you cant gain souls during the buff
but reducing duration is not always good
yeah just get a bit like annoint window of oportunity to be at 35% of the soul gain prevention vs 85% of the base duration
Non-Curse Aura Skills have X% Increased Duration shouldnt affect soul gain prevention time right?
I guess I have to play vaal ice shot then, lessgo
nah u click trialmaster and architect of chaos
for 70%
these ppl are not serious right
actual zero damage ascendancy on zero damage skill
So long as they don't specify that modifiers to duration apply to duration of soul gain prevention
can do both tbh
you get to 85% reduced soul gain prevention while still retaining 85% of the duration
youre gonna run into soul generation issues
and u cant overdo it with shepherd of souls
dont get me wrong i think stuff like vaal bv will be good
God it's actually going to be so annoying, the mirages don't move
just will be painful before u get the trialmaster bloodline
But it's such a cool skill
iirc there's tech where specific duration modifiers (ie increased minion duration) dont apply to Soul Gain Prevention if the skill has that mod
Yea idc about overlapping the mirages or whatever
That sub is where u go for 3/10 opinions
(oh also, you can totally snipe tech this)
if i go a vaal skill its vaal absolution
Sometimes 3/10 is necessary because ur a 2/10 player
I just think it's a cool skill
innocence just nukes its really fun
vaal ice shot just sounds worse than vaal ds
how do u even kill monster
i would only touch harbinger with a headhunter to stack expiry rate
- fishing rod
- starter
keep in mind that many of these people don't make it past yellow maps
focused channeling will carry the delusions obviously

they just want to play a meme build
i mean you can surfcaster without the rod until you get it
Yeah probably
unironically recommending arc tho
surfcaster with the sea legs node and the 50% inc resist foulborn could be funny
fishing rod and starter isnt even the worst thing there
its arc
lol
true
Vaal ds is continually attacking rather than attacking for every ice shot IG
Does anyone know if i made this up
arc is not amazing but at least refraction runegraft gives it a bit more oomph now
feels let dogshit
you did made it up
less*
surfcaster spark of unpredictability log in
arc is amazing until like red maps
Arc isnt THAT bad its playable if u have some other way to do single target
i wouldnt say amazing but if you can snag a refraction and half decent gear its playable if you really like arc
oh lmao OFC the channel has rmt site in description ewww
i'm just sad they murdered arc of surging
another channel to ignore list ig
what's the snipe tech
im pretty excited for spark i am hard coping that deathbeam isnt lying to me
in theory it sounds good
i think arc of surging was my favorite build ever
on bog or surf
Oh on unpredictability furyvalve?
ye
the unleash on hydrosphere was so damn funny
surf
thats good
I dont think the clear would be good enough for trade but
I havent seriously played poe1 trade in a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJiIssEYog well this is mostly baseline fury valve spark its like fine no
fury valve only cares about additional projectiles, so 4 proj lvl 1 spark, every proj can split on enemy, here with gmp + volley 4 base projs + fury valve = a lot of projs
surely the clear is fine with valve
someone tested if runegraft of refraction stops fury valve +2 splits?
Minion duration isn't skill duration
Or am I crazy
whats the icon for faster projs idr if i have it linked there or not
One of us has lost it, unfortunately its probably me
i dont
looks like gmp + pierce
it increases the soul gain prevention
the increased minion duration wheel makes vaal absolution soul gain prevention longer
You make sure you only have mana for one stage of snipe, so you get the 200% attack speed from snipe support, and always fire at first stage
Hi!
I want to do a "hard reset" on my league progression.
Just delete all my league chars or need to do something else?
Also need to empty your stash
And really thats impossible i think
You'll still have atlas progression
You can't, even GGG won't hard reset you - I've asked.
You could play HC/SSF or a private league
that's sick
minion duration wont even affect vaal absoluion in first place no? like at all
I haven't actually tested it, but I've seen it on video
only the generic duration from that wheel
vaal skeletons doesn't have the tag lol
Stash is more important.
Just "training" starter league builds to do a
From zero to "not so weak"
Minion shits all hard coded, I don't trust tags; test it instead
Vaal skeletons does look kinda funny as well
just go ssf then migrate all after each attempt
it'll reset everything
Oh, its good
yeah you just try to spam it to replace all the regular skeletons with the bigger generals
Can't trade if you play in ssf though(obv)
Also honestly you don't even need the stash at leaguestart until like yellow maps
I usually do my test runs in Inventory
Maps I agree, yellow maps though is wild
But I also don't really go past campaign
Its perfect, its really training to league starter builds with no previous loot.
Oh yeah then just play ssf
pob says it does , both the vaal skill duration and the soul gain prevention
TY
the tooltip changes in-game
like someone said, migrate all when you're done and ready for the next attempt
I also wanted to try vaal firestorm to see if you still get the full 16 small bolts if you lower the duration
So reduced buff expiry rate doesnt make Soul Gain Prevention last longer?
it doesnt
thats just the generic part
the minion wheel has both regular and minion duration
oh right i didnt see the notable had generic duration i just grabbed the wheel and saw it increase to 36
this is how it looks like when both apply from that wheel for example
my bad
yay, I finally got the double bereks
Hey there! No need for any petitions, we will have HC Trade, HC SSF, SC Trade and SC SSF leagues available. We were planning to announce these in a news post next week with other information relevent to the event but figured just get ahead of this one.```
no info today
pack it up
i will make petition anyway smh
petition to allow petitions
Oh nevermind, snipe counts as a trigger
not worth taking anyway i guess since absolution has very little numbers
So it won't work
number of minions i mean
wat
IG I'll have to figure out how to get infinite attack speed on ice shot some other way
oh lol
I feel like i can definitely get 100% uptime Vaal Discipline
well you can just use base snipe without linked attack right
time machine + souleater 😄
yeah fixed that , noticed it could be understood as in damage number
also, ephemeral edge got the funny number, 1.3m ignite dps in char sheet
on lvl 13 smite
then yea just more as gloves and soul eater and done
Yea, makes sense
Question, does bflurry break the 30.3 aps cap inherently?
its channel so yes
I kinda want to click quill rain for the funny, but I'm not playing another strstack bow build
Wonder why bflurry int/acc stacker isn't being used by anyone
the cap is on actions/s
If theyve got multistrike on its not an issue
if im putting bunch of money into a build then im for sure not playing bflurry
haha no love for bflurry
UH
hmm, that's a good point. Wonder why pob shows 30.3
What slot is that one on?
Triumvirate
Oh that fucking ring
maybe the viper strike dude isn't using multistrike for whatever reason
Good luck getting a nice ring from Uber atziri
i feel like i might be dumb as bricks
why soul gain prevention 1.5s with 100% reduced...where am i getting duration from
do we have phercia patch notes?
info "sometime next week"
i want to know how much they kill everything i plan on playing
That's why you don't make plans until patch notes
im dumb i forgot to put it in the ring
ancestral commander instead of 3 max end charges now has -1 max end charge and the mini defiance now only is 5% or so XD
lololololol
what skill
any
thats Discipline though
you wouldnt want to do it with anything but auras htough
1 link
50 souls in 3s is a bit rough
ez to do with soul ripper 
HF
is it hand of thought and motion, or wisdom and action?
thought and motion right
for int stacking
int/acc
yeah i gernerate 10 flask charges per sec what soulriper wouldnt work well with that
oh right duh its on the pob
Had one of the delvers open
I think this is the build I'm following
the mageblood setup
has valako jewels and an insane amulet
Is there anything that gives % more duration that isnt the skill mastery or a support
I currently get 2 souls a second, vaal clarity lasts 10 seconds after soul gain prevention, needs 24
I already have 100% vaal venom gyre uptime 
Figured it out, 100% uptime achieved
To what ends? Who knows. it only takes your entire ascendancy
malevolence
Doesnt work on shorter skills either
oh i thought you looked just for what could make your duration higher on pob 
Is it worth going for 100% uptime cuz that lowkey does sound fun
Do you guys think mods will be randomized every instance or fixed with hourly reset?
I was initially thinking former but theres kindof a precedence for latter with necro settlers, although it was not the same
i hope the campain has mods too
Fixed with reset would make sense to avoid gaming and so they can hotfix fucked up mod combos
give us some fun bull
If it is the latter it will be BRUTAL though lmfao
Oh wait i cant get 100% uptime on venom gyre on anything but a one-link 
You'd need to do it in a 6l, but I think so, if wiki is right and 30% of proj shotgun per WB, that's solid enough
players on -60 chaos res when they have 1 hour of extra chaos damage on their favourite map : 
150% more is like a 4 link right
Even campaign is gonna be crazy if so lol
Yea around there
Sounds playable to me
i think the atziri gloves are better tbh
Wheres my patchnotes bruh 😭
and much easier to get
I can just use Hateforge
If the right campaign boss gets phys as extra + haste with enrage and extra mechanics some players are gonna be hardstuck for the entire hour it lasts
Or behemoth 🔥
skill issue
Need Architect
Ah, rip
Why not make a new instance?
Assuming its fixed with hourly reset
we're talking about if its hour locked
What are the two durations here?
campaign would be a non-issue tbh
One is how long it gens blades for, one is how long the blades last?
if you are stuck while zooming through the acts
But thats such a boring way to do it. I thi k making it random in every single instance is SOOO much more interesting
Thats a true risk scarab
then 10 minutes of farming, a few more rare items and a new graft would overpower whatever mod is there easily
oh, primary is +max blades stored
yeah but its a lot less fair
for the people racing
+character levels is giga strong early
Not saying its an issue but I can see people struggling alot harder than that lol
Why should we care about those racing when its not a race?
in trade its always a race
i cleared all monsters on the way and weaver (which everyone complained about) didnt even scratch me
ur mega overestimating the playerbase lol
nothing more, just SINGLE area clears and not running past monsters
But theres nothing like money on the line, so it quite literally isnt a poe race. Why should they cater to the 0.01%?
campaign mods are non-issue.
alot of people would spend like twice their usual campaign time in an SC gauntlet
probably more
because even to others its more fun if everyone gets the same mods
People not experienced in racing should go softcore so they should be fine. People going hardcore but not being super experienced are prolly those that suffer worst, but they do have the option to just go slow
but then you get so ridiculously overpowered that even gauntlet cant stop you
ESPECIALLY with breach online
I mean half-casual HC mains, I would understand if they found it a bit annoying
the mods are not the worst in HC tbh , if they put the same additional mechanics to campain bosses as last time some are very rippy
act 9 boss had dots everywhere if you were not high dps enough
just get new uul hands graft and it would kill boss alone
@sleek barn I mightve found a meme build i like that is actually playable. 100% uptime Vaal Venom Gyre
instead of -20 levels one
someone remembers what ultimatum mods idols had?


