1┃general

[eternal hill]

its basically mirage

[proud gorge]

in the same way that Saviour clones and mirage archer aren't minions

[golden phoenix]

Proxies

[hard cliff]

[proud gorge]

they're just you but standing over there

[hard cliff]

and cold

[proud gorge]

then again, despite being proxies, apparently them attacking doesn't trigger "if you've attacked" things on you

since you didn't technically attack

[golden phoenix]

Correct

You haven't attacked, but you have cast a spell

[stuck phoenix]

Because you haven't attacked

[proud gorge]

and the spell made a man in the mirror, and the man in the mirror attacked, just as you

[stuck phoenix]

No proxies count as you having done anything. It's not "despite". It's "because"

[proud gorge]

fair yeah

[golden phoenix]

Marohi Erqi is very strong with Frozen Legion, because the low attack speed doesn't reduce DPS, but it makes it clunkier because the delay between skill use and damage application is longer and you gotta invest more into accuracy

Winds of Fate is also very strong with it if you have a source of lucky crits like focus or saboteur

Legacy of the Rose is gonna be interesting. It has decent attack speed so it won't feel clunky AF, gives cast speed for less time standing still to summon proxies, has decently high phys damage, +5 to spell skills for hatred and a bit of boost to frozen legion itself, and the occasional giga-slam for extra burst potential, plus free eldritch battery

Main sticking point I've got is getting enough ES spending to charge up the shaper slam, think I might have to grab whispers of infinity and do corrupting fever

[proud gorge]

I guess it's confusing since most other proxies require you to have done the thing the proxy is doing anyways

[hard cliff]

ok David Bowie

[stuck phoenix]

Not really no

Mines, totems, traps

[proud gorge]

oh, I guess those are also proxies? I was mainly thinking about, like, Mirage Archer and such

[stuck phoenix]

Proxy is not a defined term

It is not used in the game to refer to anything

The colloquial meaning in the community includes them

[golden phoenix]

I was thinking of doing fortify support with frozen legion until I remembered that I'm pretty sure that'd give fortify to the clones

[proud gorge]

but yeah, makes sense

[elfin shale]

Oh yeah Frozen Legion is like the only Attack+Spell skill isnt it

[proud gorge]

it's just anything that uses your stats to use a skill that isn't you

[elfin shale]

Besides Vaal Absolution

Er

Vaal Domination

[proud gorge]

yeah

also the transmog Frozen Legion

[golden phoenix]

I'm probably not gonna use trans frozen legion

Since I'll have decent CDR

And cyclone shockwave while waiting for the CD

[stuck phoenix]

It is the only attack and spell skill gem

Well

If we're not counting minions

[golden phoenix]

Minions never count

[proud gorge]

I don't think any minion gems have both the Attack and Spell tags anyways

like, they have attacks and spells

but lack the tags

minion skills have their own thing going on

[pliant hamlet]

minion skills are weird

[stuck phoenix]

Oh yeah

I was tricked

Vaal domination does have it though

[pliant hamlet]

haha I was just looking up vaal dom blow

Spell, Minion, Duration, Vaal, Attack, Melee, Strike

[elfin shale]

How playable is Absolution of Inspiring hit based

[pliant hamlet]

Apparently it has an insane top end

[elfin shale]

Does it get overlaps with Spell Cascade

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdrJoMronc

He's abusing a traditionally very expensive elegant hubris

but 3 x slum lord is pretty obtainable

[elfin shale]

Slum Lord is just 60% inc right

[pulsar dune]

80 IIRC

[elfin shale]

Damn

So like 320% with absolution

[pliant hamlet]

He's using a 5x slum lord

[elfin shale]

Lmao thats a whole ass low tolerance for a hit build okay i see the vision

[pliant hamlet]

which iirc are usually 2-4 mirrors

but you absolutely don't need one that high lol

You can check if any are for sale atm, it's 123380

[strong totem]

Wildspeaker absolution. Ez game

[pliant hamlet]

was 50c this league

so might be cheap again

oh nvm the number search doesn't work?

lol

[tranquil sedge]

wat

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Keepers/opVQLbBKil
refreshing fixed it

15-20d is insane 👀

[sleek barn]

i usually just get 3x slum lord + 1x endurance charge on hit (and whatever else applies in the calculator)

[tranquil sedge]

also include cadiro and victario

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Keepers/Ypvd6rZkFY

[pliant hamlet]

yeah still 15d

[tranquil sedge]

looks like still 15d ye, that 100c looks afk

[pliant hamlet]

I wonder if it's due to the shops

they went down so much from 3 or 4 leagues ago

[eternal hill]

ah ye

[pliant hamlet]

more getting listed and all

btw, were there any pain points w/ the new trading stuff?

[strong totem]

Gold

[pliant hamlet]

gold prices high on something or anything

[strong totem]

Mostly just uniques

[split maple]

yellow beasties funnily enough

just high enough to fuck bulk buyers

[pliant hamlet]

hahaha that's kinda hillarious

[eternal hill]

Get your magic find characters ready

[strong totem]

It was like 400k gold to convert a mirror to divinea

[pliant hamlet]

There's some insane gold farming strats now, aren't there? I've been hearing insane numbers on the reddit today like 1-5m gold from 1 map

idk if that's exageration though

[tranquil sedge]

(this will vary on divine cost)

[sleek barn]

i had this eternal hubris for absolution of inspiring

[eternal hill]

Then again, if you dont interact with Shittlers, you can probably maintain the gold without too much hassle

[sleek barn]

38500

[pliant hamlet]

I don't like witch hubrises

they're so expensive points-wise

[split maple]

invigo blight is round half a mil solo

for more you need groups and gildeds and shit

[tranquil sedge]

in general gold isn't gonna be a huge deal especially for an experienced player, like u

even more so if you are willing to spend some divines on gold buys early league if u dont like self-farming blight or settler setups

[sleek barn]

i had to make the most of that impossible escape lol

[strong totem]

Shittlers ran away with all my gold. True

[tranquil sedge]

if u have a few dozen divs spare in week 2 or 3 or something, chuck some of it towards gold rotas + t0/t1 uniques for dust

it will pay for itself many times over

[pliant hamlet]

That the super high end strat? the 100% deli insane dps req strat?

[split maple]

nah thats the slap invigo on t16.5 strat

didnt hear of 100% deli thingie yet?

[pliant hamlet]

Oh nice

I was looking into things that required really high dps and it popped up

they suggested like 550m+ dps lol

[split maple]

well invigo still has dps requirement

[proud gorge]

Einhar please stick around for more than 5 seconds lmao

[split maple]

but like my kboc doesnt have issues on idk 6mil per explo? feel free to math out overlaps, i cannot 😄

[strong totem]

I imagine there may be a good gold strat using idols

[normal hedge]

30 overlaps

ofc

[proud gorge]

I just walked into the zone, there was a red beast right at the entrance, Einhar popped in to net it then declared the hunt over right then and there

[pliant hamlet]

even 30 overlaps that's only 180m dps, so it's not nearly as bad as I was led to believe

[tranquil sedge]

in base game, if u want smth with less dps req but maybe only like 100k+ gold a map top end (maaaaybe bit more) but fast u could try ore setups, t16.5 maps rolled for rarity + tree setup for crimson iron + bismuth + map effect, run scarabs for spawning ore + all ore mobs are magic + risk/lineage/hordes combo as per ur money

[normal hedge]

30 overlaps is a meme

[tranquil sedge]

but ur gold/hr will then just depend on your clearspeed so 'just' 80-100k gold a map will still add up fast

[split maple]

its issue mainly if you do bosslane titanic, but thats rly not popular this league

[eternal hill]

Is there something with penance of dissipation pob dps, looking at last phrecia and most are like 500k - 1.5M

[split maple]

most folks do bloodlines magic mob blight, it feels more loot

[tranquil sedge]

or u can just buy gold rotas for like 10m gold per hour or whatever

[eternal hill]

no shot ppl grinded 100 with this little dps

[pliant hamlet]

At 100k I'd just...map. T17s pump about that

[normal hedge]

poe.ninja dont setup most skills right so

[tranquil sedge]

i think it depends on the strats right i thought the gold was nerfed enough

like i said 100k post-nerf

[split maple]

poeninja shows first stage

pbod has 20

[tranquil sedge]

in 3.26 that same thing woulda dropped 150k+ per t17 easy

with just like a single rarity flask or whatever

[eternal hill]

even then

[split maple]

like pbod config on ninja is usually 50x less than what you hit practically

slap in power charges

dude has caped crit for sure

also shock and practically all ailments, its multi ele crit build

[normal hedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/AshimarMirrorShop-3672/Ashimar_Horticultor?i=8&search=skills%3DPenance%2BBrand%2Bof%2BDissipation%26sort%3Ddps
like that one goes to 300m if you config it

[split maple]

and add count=2, you have 2 brands on enemy

[tranquil sedge]

pbod's one of the stronger skills, those are not real numbers at all ye

-# and this is post-nerf pbod

[pliant hamlet]

I can say my pob un-touched says I have like 3-5m dps, while in practice I had around 30-50m dps

[eternal hill]

Thats what I was thinking

cus no matter what pob I opened up and poblorded to every box it didnt break 2m

[split maple]

my maping pboder hits like 30mil if it manages to find something chunky enough to hit max stages, respec to bossing setup hits 100mile

[eternal hill]

and it was like mageblood + F&F + 167 cluster jewels etc. etc. etc.

[pliant hamlet]

I just have a 25m dps inquisitor to compare it to, and I kill about 1.5-2x as fast.

idk how to setup pbod on pob

[eternal hill]

just knowing that pob aint accurate is good enough

[pliant hamlet]

How would you play pbod in phrecia?

[normal hedge]

bog shaman lifestacker

nightblood abuser

[eternal hill]

surfer

[pliant hamlet]

both make sense

[warped gazelle]

Are the phrecia ascendancies in PoB or am i just blind and dont find them?

[eternal hill]

at least 81% of pbods in phrecia was surfers

[pliant hamlet]

Don't forget there'll be buffs/nerfs before we get this

[eternal hill]

do note, we don't know if they are getting changes

just what we had last time

[proud gorge]

I do wish there were some sort of "overlaps" thing in PoB to determine what the realistic damage multiplier of some build on some skill is, because a lot of skills that are actually incredibly powerful end up with mediocre listed DPSes on poe.ninja

[warped gazelle]

yeah, its fine if some are changed, i just dont remember any of the nodes

[eternal hill]

I'm mostly entertaining idea of lightning plode bereks with surfer shock prolif

[proud gorge]

plus it makes gauging how powerful a build actually is a lot easier

[pulsar dune]

some skills do have it

[pliant hamlet]

seems solid for a zoomer clear

[pulsar dune]

ninja just doesn't use it all the time

[eternal hill]

but that entails using lightnign spell

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[proud gorge]

yeah, but since it's only some and not all, it's extremely inconsistent

[pliant hamlet]

could be cold spell too

[split maple]

i just forget to slap maven witness on ucortex 💀

[pliant hamlet]

since you have cold can shock

[eternal hill]

even worse

have you looked at cold spells

[pliant hamlet]

I played eow + ice spear of splintering coc last league lol

[eternal hill]

Theres like cold dot thanks to Elementalist and then the high end setup CoCss

[eternal hill]

that could be silly with blind prophet

[pliant hamlet]

Rotten Core sounds really interesting

idk how you don't die to that insane phys dmg you're constantly taking but could be fun

scale to like 8k mana + indigon

indigon handles your inc, rotten core gives you a ton of flat chaos

[eternal hill]

Then again, every spell is a lightning spell in eblade meta

[pliant hamlet]

lol I was Ivory Tower

soooo agreed

Go play Meteor Forb sorc from D2

[normal hedge]

booo

[pliant hamlet]

Firestorm + EOW

[normal hedge]

captain lance fan

[pliant hamlet]

I hate captain lance's builds

[normal hedge]

you literally playing it

[pliant hamlet]

His stuff's unusable to me lol

[eternal hill]

nah I'm just talking about how easily keeper tree prints 1k ES pieces for Eblade+Spellblade

[pliant hamlet]

All rf players are copying pohx, all ivory tower builds are copying captain lance, all zhp 30 button builds are copying jung

[eternal hill]

not necessarily even ivory builds

[normal hedge]

cap or connor, yep

[pliant hamlet]

cap? he plays poe?

oh captain lance

both of those content creators tend to make builds for trade

[split pagoda]

jung builds are usually not zhp from what ive seen

[pliant hamlet]

they're pretty unusable in my experience

[pliant hamlet]

They have a lot of... active defenses

very easy to die on if you're not paying attention or let something fall in my experience

[tranquil sedge]

yea don't look at connor's builds for ssf unless ur a giga player lol

he's a trade man through and through

[split pagoda]

yeah thats probably accurate for a good chunk of jungs builds lol

[pliant hamlet]

Yeah, a lot of his builds have an "entry level" of mirrors lol

[normal hedge]

agree on connor but cap has a lot of ssf runs

[tranquil sedge]

i wouldn't really say that but i wouldn't recommend them in ssf to anyone ye

[eternal hill]

Then again, not using manual guard skill makes you a bad player

[tranquil sedge]

he (connor) likes playing his own builds zero to hero

[eternal hill]

and it aint even false

[tranquil sedge]

so u can leaguestart most of them if you really wanted to

[tranquil sedge]

-# that said leaguestarting MFA in phrecia was ... an experience

[split pagoda]

atleast compared to the avg SC build theyre certainly not squishy

[uneven gust]

Phericia waiting room

[split pagoda]

but thats a low bar

[normal hedge]

by the time MFA comes on the league is over

[uneven gust]

Patchnotes when

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

3 weeks is really short to minmax mfa i think for most ppl yea

[normal hedge]

but anyways i'm not counting on whisperer, they prolly nerfing it

[pliant hamlet]

I'll agree with that. But all of the jung builds I've tried tend to be fairly high apm, with a lot of hotkey pressure

[stoic horizon]

thanks now they are delayed by 24h

[eternal hill]

just play kboc

it was so smooth

[split pagoda]

For sure

[tranquil sedge]

in hindsight it was absolutely a better idea to leaguestart kboc and switch to mfa at indigon level

thats not a controversial take at all

[eternal hill]

or continue with kboc indigon

[tranquil sedge]

but it was my first time playing a real 'bow' build lol

[pliant hamlet]

Def not calling them bad builds; I've absolutely had my best start -> 4 stones (~16h) on jung builds

[eternal hill]

it went even more ballistic

[tranquil sedge]

its fun but mfa blew it out of the water in terms of dps and tank

[eternal hill]

sure you didnt have 250M uber dps, just 80M

[pliant hamlet]

He's a monster of a build creator if you're willing to put up with jank lol

[tranquil sedge]

i tried rogue exiles towards league end and even mfa was starting to struggle so it was definitely the right play

but leaguestarting it was the wrong play for sure

[fervent quest]

Why aren’t I getting any spy master?

[tranquil sedge]

are you looking for #2┃general

[normal hedge]

#2┃general

[pliant hamlet]

#2┃general

[fervent quest]

Ty guys

Love u

[pliant hamlet]

o7

[tranquil sedge]

the wand craft for kboc was a cool craft

almost enough reason to play it on its own just for that ngl

[split maple]

this time you surely go grace tho, no?

[tranquil sedge]

grace on what

oh

[split maple]

on kboc

[tranquil sedge]

yea probably

[eternal hill]

the shitty maven wand

[pliant hamlet]

fucking hate that wand

too rare lol

[tranquil sedge]

not to mention

crafting that rare was a recomb craft pre-nerf lol

[split maple]

they swaped drop rates last leg

its like 10% now

[eternal hill]

I doubt its bis

[tranquil sedge]

now its gonna be more difficult
its a 5-mod recomb

[split pagoda]

im not gonna say its a bad starter but im a little skeptical of starting kboc this event lol

[pliant hamlet]

I got woke cascade, woke multi, 1 or 2 flasks, still no wand

[split pagoda]

the random mods will be brutal

[pliant hamlet]

rng be rng :<

[split maple]

i still dont have arn's from basic maven lol

yea rng rngs

[pliant hamlet]

hahah I went 0/51 on the regular maven boots - will forever be my worst streak I think I've had in any game

[split pagoda]

like I am fully expecting a good chunk of the wander starters to ragequit day1 lol

[pliant hamlet]

I think a lot of people are going to ragequit in general on day 1

[split pagoda]

ya true

[pliant hamlet]

this league's gonna be pretty hard

• builds need to be figured out

[hybrid harness]

exsang/reap miner is good in base game atm, I assume there is a phrecia alternative that would work good. the one that ps mine was played on before maybe

[tranquil sedge]

coz of the map mods?

[pulsar dune]

mines are rough to consider ngl.

[pliant hamlet]

harder game + unknown builds

[pulsar dune]

none of these ascendancies are good at mines

except surfcaster

[tranquil sedge]

unknown builds
surely patch notes come out any day now right

[split maple]

didnt folks do ps miner scav or smh

[split pagoda]

ye map mods are gonna make the event so much harder than base game

[split maple]

could be adapted

[hybrid harness]

what was the ps mine build? scav?

[hexed mountain]

you can probably do a solid exsang mines with fully converted to lightning surfcaster

[pliant hamlet]

yeah scav

[split pagoda]

its gonna be brutal

[normal hedge]

yup because of fury valve

[split maple]

2 free risk scarbs 😄

tho i am hella happy i am doing event in sc

[pliant hamlet]

I'm really thinking of playing rbov + Bflurry Behemoth lol

[normal hedge]

i was thinking about self chill with arkhons but the uptime looks kinda bad

[hexed mountain]

lets hope they're not mean and we get the quant from bonus mods

[normal hedge]

since they go everywhere

[split maple]

they confirmed that already

[hybrid harness]

if the map mods are guaranteed not bricky ones then I see it as pure upside. game is missing difficulty rn after 3.27 nerfs

[split maple]

on twiter to fubgun lol

[pliant hamlet]

we do

[hexed mountain]

damn that's massive

[split maple]

its like risk, you get quant but isnt scaled by explicit effect

[split pagoda]

ya once u get ur build going the extra juice will be crazy, and tree is gonna make that happen fairly quick

[hexed mountain]

yeah but its on every map

[surreal musk]

the random mods wont be build bricking in general since they are not affected by map mod effect , most bricking mods are only bricking cause of map effect

[pulsar dune]

I mean, no regen and no leech are GG

[split maple]

mods are also curated, there isnt reflect and shit

i wonder what the full blacklist is

[surreal musk]

no leech is not a mod

[eternal hill]

it was confirmed to act like normal map mods

[pulsar dune]

yes it is

[surreal musk]

reduced leech is but 60% reduced leech is fine

[split maple]

its t16 mod

monsters cannot be leeched from

[pliant hamlet]

I wonder what they consider "not bricking". Because it'd be very funny if something like no regen was there. Watch all the RF bros be unable to finish a zone lol

[split maple]

doesnt roll on t17 tho

[pliant hamlet]

or monsters can't be leeched from yeah

[tranquil sedge]

the usual brick culprits, no leech, no regen, reflect don't care about mod effect

[split pagoda]

it just seems to me good amount of people are not taking the random map mods seriously when selecting build and I think they’ll be in for an interesting time

[pulsar dune]

what I mainly hope isn't there is avoid ignite

[tranquil sedge]

the mods that brick depending on effect aren't an issue at all

[split maple]

a lot of people will learn that ctrl-click is new instance in campaign 😄

[eternal hill]

DW Haste + gmp /extra cold in [INSERT A ZONE] is out to get you

[tranquil sedge]

because you'll be controlling effect

[pulsar dune]

since I want to play BAoV

[pliant hamlet]

avoid ailments D:

[normal hedge]

its not a bricking mod since its not 100%

[pulsar dune]

it's bricking for BAoV

[pliant hamlet]

Double turbo pog

[pulsar dune]

since that's a snipe build

so not hitting is kinda GG

[tranquil sedge]

avoild ailments is the mod ye

i dont remember if its t16 or t17

[pulsar dune]

T16

[tranquil sedge]

oh right

[eternal hill]

hasted split arrow skelly archers in climb

[tranquil sedge]

that one hurt on pconc

u right

[pliant hamlet]

Hasted rhoas

[pulsar dune]

block is also going to P annoying for slammers huh

tho IG ES hits multiple times

[pliant hamlet]

Who remembers day 1 of the rare rework and hasted rhoas Lol

[pulsar dune]

so it's kinda fine

[split pagoda]

i wonder how many extra mods it’ll be, says it scales so im thinking t16s could easily have 3 extra mods

[tranquil sedge]

i was running maps with like 95% chance to avoid ailments/poison/whatever it says and wondering why pconc of bouncing is doing so little poison dps

[eternal hill]

Hasted rhoas with ailment avoidance would be nasty

cant even morb em

[pliant hamlet]

Cannot be stunned + hasted rhoa

[hybrid harness]

I hope its a lot of mods endgame yea

[split maple]

1 for campaign, +1 for whites, yellows, Reds for +4 total I hope? I don't think we getting 5 in t17 for free tho

[eternal hill]

life as extra ES

[pulsar dune]

like my ass is not spining through 70% avoid

[pliant hamlet]

Ancient Wombgifts were common in acts weren't they?

[split maple]

I Just want to see whisperer changes like yesterday

[split pagoda]

yeah wouldnt be surprised at 4 either

[eternal hill]

What was the fucked up Gauntlet where Brutus offscreened you

was it 90% extra with aoe

[pliant hamlet]

Hydra?

[heady cliff]

attack mastery exists

[eternal hill]

Imagine playing chaos build struggling to scale dmg and see all act1 bosses rolling chaos res + life

[pliant hamlet]

Oh god, merveil with literally any defense node is awful

[eternal hill]

and they do be having enrage

which also probably gives DR

and dmg&turbo ofc

[pulsar dune]

true true

[strong totem]

This is my league starter

[hoary scarab]

is it ssf viable

[eternal hill]

legacy ralakesh yeppers

[split maple]

idk man this looks more like day2-3 stuff

[crimson hearth]

Hello everyone

I have question

[split maple]

ynda is gonna be hard 😄

[tranquil sedge]

u can ask your question

and you don't need permission to ask it

[crimson hearth]

Ik

[strong totem]

How am I going to deal with self ignite?

[crimson hearth]

So

I have like 8 playthroughs or smth but everytime i make new one campaign takes forever like days isw i seen guides and watched playthroughs nothing works

How the fuck do ppl finish in 6 hours or smth

[tranquil sedge]

at leaguestart i take more like 10h

but u need to waste less time that's really all it is

keep moving nonstop zone to zone

kill fewer things

have a plan in mind for your build

[pulsar dune]

you walk to goal, kill blue mobs, spend as little as possible doing anything that's not those two things

[crimson hearth]

I always try be overlevel maybe thats why?

[tranquil sedge]

dont sit for an hour in campaign thinking what gear to buy or what skills to use or what supports to get

[pliant hamlet]

Lock in, know where to go and what to do, have their build planned out, play optimized builds - in that order.

[tranquil sedge]

thats part of it yes

[pulsar dune]

yea you should be like 2-4 levels under

[eternal hill]

yeah about that

[split maple]

aim to be 6-7 levels under area level at end of campaign

4 levels under before that

[pulsar dune]

6-7 is too high for leaguestart IMO

[crimson hearth]

And spend like hour adjusting gems and gear only good part is now im act4 with 6 links and 4links lwk

[tranquil sedge]

less time on this

[split maple]

its just enough not to be hit with exp penalty

[heady cliff]

6-7 is a typical leaguestart IF you interact with league mechanic

[split maple]

then it depends how good starter is

[pliant hamlet]

There are certain zones that are very good for xp; clear more there.
There are certain zones that are AWFUL xp; skill everything there.
Everywhere else "If it's blue -> kill it".

[tranquil sedge]

you get better gear with more links sockets and colors the more you go in campaign

[heady cliff]

it is a huge time sink almost every time

[tranquil sedge]

literally all you need early on is just a good 4-link for ur main skill and a few slots for auras and a movement skill and maybe a support skill if needed

so dont focus too much on gear

just cap resists and move on, life is a nice bonus

[split pagoda]

if ur gonna farm do it in efficient zones like chamber of innocence. can enter maps overleveled and still get a great time

[pliant hamlet]

weapons

especially for melee builds

you do have to care about those every 10ish levels

[crimson hearth]

Ohh okey il stop gearing then i already have more than softcap res by alot

[tranquil sedge]

okay weapons too if ur playing a attack build or smth yea but like there's multiple ways to get good weapons

till like act 4, act 5, u just yolo with whateverthefuck gear you get

[split maple]

i slaped belt and whetstone on tink tier on filter on slam start 😄

[tranquil sedge]

after that u can start really keeping an eye out for more gear if u need

[split maple]

then treetree gave 6l

[crimson hearth]

I have good weapon actually and im doing iceshot so uh no need for that rn anyways

[tranquil sedge]

every time u level up vendor stock changes
and also the guys in town who u gamble gold with, they are really good too

the gold gamble is great for gear

good sockets, good mods

[heady cliff]

not anymore iirc

[tranquil sedge]

huh

[elfin shale]

Does Absolution get any overlaps with Spell Cascade or is it solely a coverage thing

[crimson hearth]

Ye i use gold gamble alot

[split maple]

gold gamba still pretty good, just tree way better

[heady cliff]

gold gamble is still good though

[tranquil sedge]

when did vendor behaviour change?

[crimson hearth]

Tree gets good in my opinion at like i level 80+

[crystal talon]

you get overlaps

[split maple]

you can get 5-6l already in second half of campaign

and blood cost isnt big early

its goated

[crimson hearth]

True lwk

[tranquil sedge]

also even if you literally spend 1 full hour in campaign just looking at gear

that's still not enough to explain a suuuper slow campaign

its just one of the things you work on

but just plan ur passive tree in advance, plan ur skill gem+support gem in advance, and dont full clear every zone

[heady cliff]

3.21.0

Items now persist in a Vendors' shops for multiple levels, so that you have a chance to buy them before they vanish. Each time you level up, the oldest items are removed and some new ones are added. You can also now rarely find Rare items at Vendors.

[tranquil sedge]

oh only some stock changes

interesting

i guess i didn't play close enough attention

[crimson hearth]

I have better idea

[tranquil sedge]

but i suppose it also doesn't matter too much, gold vendors are good

[crimson hearth]

I will delete poe😊

[elfin shale]

Is it multiple or just 1

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[crystal talon]

depends on AoE and cursor placement

[tranquil sedge]

just don't mentally check out so much during campaign

[pliant hamlet]

Generally I care about 1 defensive thing per act, and usually aim to have some sort of defense against it by a certain point. Act 1 and a sapphire ring before merveil if possible, act 4 and bleed flask, act 8 and anti-freeze before entering the left side, etc.

[tranquil sedge]

and dont kill so many things

you'll speed up without too much trouble

[elfin shale]

Ill have to look for a reddit post or something

[crystal talon]

It functions identically to stormcall if you are aware of that

[tranquil sedge]

if u want a checklist to follow, i use one every league lol

https://heartofphos.github.io/exile-leveling/

i have this open on a second screen

it helps me keep track

[elfin shale]

Oof so you need like 120% AoE for 5 overlaps

[tranquil sedge]

the early acts are the slowest anyway

[pliant hamlet]

god, I hate this lol

[crimson hearth]

Im gonna stop gearing actually i got way too much rn and have stuff in stash for when i level up more level req like 60-90

[tranquil sedge]

it is what it is

[crystal talon]

idk if base AoE is the same as stormcall, but I think it is

[tranquil sedge]

also don't do league mechanics

[crimson hearth]

Oh ok il check it out thx

[tranquil sedge]

if they spawn in campaign

skip things like essence and blight or whatever

its a waste of time

[crimson hearth]

I dont do league mechs untill maps

[tranquil sedge]

kk

[split maple]

essence is good

other stuff skip

[pliant hamlet]

mm, I don't agree with that, do essences

[heady cliff]

?????

essence is giga good

[split maple]

like you slap random essences on boots

[tranquil sedge]

okay yikes xd

[heady cliff]

always do essence

until at least act 6

[crimson hearth]

I do essence but not early

[pliant hamlet]

essences are better early than later

[heady cliff]

early essence best essences

[crimson hearth]

Ohh

[crystal talon]

https://youtu.be/YzRoKXh_c6M?si=OxoeV-YjMMmPFEbs&t=1041

[pliant hamlet]

You really want +% Movespeed boots asap. Also contempt essences if you're melee or woe if you're a caster are huge

for your weapons

[crimson hearth]

I have 50% rahwide boots or wtv ye

[pliant hamlet]

oh if you're twinking don't do any league mecahnics

Skip everything, do breach portals when you need to catch up on xp

only kill for flask charges

[crimson hearth]

Okayy thxx im gonna ignore everything in campaign as much as i can prob only gonna do main and skill point quests and uh if im rly underlevel by atlas il join xp runs

Thanks

[pliant hamlet]

do breach portals when you're nearing the xp cutoff

the ones that spawn a ton of mobs

they'll catch you up instantly

[crimson hearth]

Okey

Thanks

[pliant hamlet]

glgl

[grizzled lily]

pob plis

[hard cliff]

damn that's me and I can't unallocate

Why is this item bad? https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Rigwald's_Crest

[crystal talon]

Because it was a bad item when it was released 15 years ago

💀

[elfin shale]

You can get that as a suffix on your weapon iirc

Also 1 mod lmfao

If it had like, +max wolves or something

[split maple]

wildspeaker has wolfeys for free

should be rpetty free campaign if you swing that way

[hard cliff]

weapon slot taken if i use savior

[hard cliff]

paladin but I can be talked into swapping

[strong totem]

You should go paladin

[pulsar dune]

Do wolves have cool down?

[elfin shale]

Is there anything besides Spinehail that consumes minions

[split maple]

basically wolfes are a gazilion of flat for campaign standards

[elfin shale]

Very short i think

[pulsar dune]

Rip

[split maple]

and after campaign you respec out of them and get like avian, dmg per dex and its pretty legit

• free inspired learning

[pulsar dune]

IG it's actually fine-ish

[ancient sorrel]

talisman league was so sad back in the days

rng over rng over rng over rng

i mean, the first iteration of it

[elfin shale]

Is there anything that grants minion damage based off your mana

[hard cliff]

I want a bunch of cats and wolves and projectiles all over the place

[pulsar dune]

15k base minion life is dogshit, right?

[hard cliff]

I want to keep my dogs

🐶

[split maple]

take wildspeaker + farul then

so you also get kitties

[hard cliff]

I agree

[stoic horizon]

technically you can do a chain mana-> es -> energy blade + aw of reflect

[hard cliff]

you think that'll be stronger than paladin?

I gotta wait for patch notes tbh this is just a concept

[split maple]

no 😄

[hard cliff]

chase item the savior

[crystal talon]

I mean for what? 15k is pretty normal base life for minions. If anything a bit high

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-got-to-tell-people-the-truth-south-park-s18e10-happy-holograms-randy-marsh-gif-19430562

[hard cliff]

LET'S GOOOOOO

[pulsar dune]

bodyswap, but I looked wrong, I just have 10k

which is the same as a level 21 stone golem at a baseline

that's not great

[crystal talon]

Oh like wolves or something?

Yeah not being able to scale levels and no minion life support is gonna limit you a decent bit

[tight plinth]

you wanna explode wolves?

😭

[blissful zodiac]

pherica wander finna go crazy

[whole bluff]

welease spellswinger

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sneeze-explode-white-fluffy-gif-15332852748850549017

[split maple]

@pliant hamlet first umaven this league lol 😄

[dusk dome]

chances that this next league is going to not be as shit as the last 😭

i really wanna play some more poe1

[tight plinth]

thats not a high bar

[dusk dome]

they arent keeping the breach changes right?

[spare ore]

it better not be or i'm throwin hands

[tight plinth]

they probably are if i had to guess

[hard cliff]

they'll prob balance it

[dusk dome]

no one seemed to like it

they took a popular mechanic and made it clunky and sloww

[hard cliff]

keep stabilize it's fun

and feels like old beach

[dusk dome]

whats stabilize

[tight plinth]

stabilize will probably the one to stay

[spare ore]

think the only nice thing is the tree that's it

[hard cliff]

where you kill a bunch of enemies to summon the boys

the boys*

the boys*

the boss

[dusk dome]

oh like you hit the hand

[thick goblet]

patch notes in 5 🙏

[dusk dome]

yeah i just fucking hate the waiting for waves that shit felt like 😭

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-gif-5041092981331887802

[hard cliff]

I agree

[tight plinth]

the fence thingy mechanic is not it

i finished league and still dont know whether they intended for players to remove the fences first or keep it intanct

[hard cliff]

I hope grafts don't go core they're fun for temporary but would be a pain to manage another two slots

[crystal talon]

Grafts go core. Players no longer have body and helmet slots

[crisp plinth]

walls also go core, players will get a small pickaxe

[pliant hamlet]

faq u

[hard cliff]

Diamond time

[onyx adder]

I swear theres like one guy at ggg who loves those walls beyond any reasonable amount and is defending them with a machine gun from anyone who tries to sneak in and delete em

Its the only sensible conclusion

[gritty epoch]

is it jonathan

[onyx adder]

Sometimes its the weird art guy that sits in the corner and spent two weeks making the walls look pretty

[tranquil sedge]

there's only two people who have ultimate say on the matter though

[onyx adder]

Dont underestimate the weird art guy

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[onyx adder]

He'll pee in the coffee machine

[tranquil sedge]

oh no

the coffee D:

thats ok we'll make some tea instead

[onyx adder]

So if breach next league is hives in map with very occasional fortress, u reckon its an instant block on the atlas

[tranquil sedge]

hopefully its just gone next league

[onyx adder]

Oh doubt

[tranquil sedge]

or at least re-reworked enough that is closer to 3.26 than 3.27

[onyx adder]

They put work into this rework

[tranquil sedge]

nahhhhhhhhhhh

me doubt that

[onyx adder]

Na theres a bunch of art assets and shit

Im not talking about the design, designer time is cheap

[tranquil sedge]

yea those are effort but poe2 effort

[onyx adder]

They wont waste the art

[tranquil sedge]

feels like it was made for poe2 and then double use outta it in poe1, which gets it first not that important

[tranquil sedge]

they way chris wilson described how their art teams work tho

that was a cool watch long ago

just nonstop making assets they can use whenever they want from a huge stockpile

[onyx adder]

Maybe but poe2 alrdy has poe1 breach so

[tranquil sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crisp plinth]

we could yoink their abyss

id gladly sac breach for it

[onyx adder]

Poe2 abyss is sweet

Id take that over current abyss

[hexed mountain]

you keep it for a bit tbh its good till you get a very good weapon

played wildspeaker for most of phrecia

i dropped it when i switched to the breach claw x2

[elfin shale]

Damn

Archmage Absolution of Inspiring would be an awesome build if you could FF Phrecia nodes

[ancient sorrel]

any pointer on how to build a scavenger Forbidden rite?
maybe FRoSS ? never played it

wanna play statis prison since i never had a hand on it

[pulsar dune]

FRoSS would usually not care about stasis prison

It'd definitely be reasonable to click it on FR tho

[golden moat]

hopefully mercs make a return in 3.28

[pulsar dune]

The core thesis of the setup is casting FR (can do CwC, CoC, selfcast), Not dying to FR thanks to the recoup, then triggering everything via cwdt

[split maple]

3.38 sounds reasonable yea

[ancient sorrel]

so no FR as core damage dealer ? just a cwdt enabler with recoup?

[pulsar dune]

Most setups I see deal damage with FR still

Since they can't get level 21 cwdt to happen, and FR does hit hard

But then they also trigger detonate dead, desecrate, curses and such

[rancid peak]

1 more week 🔥

[empty bronze]

hey chat

got any phrecia build ideas?

[rancid peak]

Gotta wait for Patch Notes

[stoic horizon]

a bunch

99% of them feel more like 2nd build tho

and more than half are bait

[pulsar dune]

Ignite grey wind dual strike behemoth

[rancid peak]

Definitely

[pulsar dune]

FF rage effect from zerker

It's a lot of dot multi

[golden moat]

ill be in sanctum for like a week probably till the good build is found

[pulsar dune]

What sanctum setup are you doing, Surfcaster PBOD?

[stoic horizon]

im really thinking about baiting myself into eblade something

[empty bronze]

i think i might try a woespike impale build

but idk which ascendancy to go for that

[pulsar dune]

Ancom up to patch notes

[empty bronze]

you do one big impale then do a bunch of small hits that echo it

[rancid peak]

Eblade Mana Stacker Whisperer

[pulsar dune]

Why eblade and mana?

[empty bronze]

behemoth might be a good choice if ggg buffs it

[stoic horizon]

im thinking more about scavenger

shavs + battlemage

[elfin shale]

Gambler

Triple Damage node + you can FF champion impale

[pulsar dune]

Give me one more good line for gambler and I'm clicking it.

[dreamy charm]

last phrcia i just did slams AC it was boring i hope we get the patch notes soon so we can theory craft

[gritty epoch]

Bloodline ascendency

[pulsar dune]

Compelling tbh

[elfin shale]

I really hope Gambler gets built in Azadi's Crest itd be funny af

[rancid peak]

Eblades just good, Mana stacker on whisperer just gives it more oomph. Grab these 6, CoC Ice Spear of Splitting for Clear and you're balling

[dreamy charm]

i like the idea of melting bosses not one shotting them like a bleed/posion build should i try HOAG in phrecia?

[hexed mountain]

gambler

triple damage proc

[pulsar dune]

HOAG is usually a poison build

[stoic horizon]

you really dont need more flat on eblade

[rancid peak]

But it isnt unwelcomed

[clear idol]

someone must have made a mistake 🤨

[pulsar dune]

We know all???

[elfin shale]

Does +Level of Vaal Skills affect the normal version of the skill?

[hexed mountain]

yes

if its a vaal gem that gives you the skill

[pulsar dune]

People are cleaning up tabs

IDK how you end up with 5k tho

[elfin shale]

Lol getting level 40 Absolution seems super easy

[hexed mountain]

with a shit lootfilter

[cosmic reef]

going tainted pact lifeloop on scavenger or bog shaman. need to see if they are changed or not

[pulsar dune]

I mean they are useful

[rancid peak]

So, its the same ascendancies from when they did Phrecia in 3.25, but there will be balance changes. These could change, hence why I said earlier we need to wait for patch notes to properly figure out what to play

[stoic horizon]

at this point the charge node gives more

[hexed mountain]

they're not usefull at 5000

at some point you remove them and stop clicking

[cosmic reef]

If they have blight with walls in every map like keepers, and kneecap the one thing im specifically trying to do, Ill just skip event

[rancid peak]

Actually yeah, you're right...

[pulsar dune]

You're clicking we know all on eblade whisperer?

[empty bronze]

eh, you can get triple damage on items

[rancid peak]

I keep forgetting charges in poe1 actually does shit

[elfin shale]

Not much

[pulsar dune]

It's just 2 belts no?

[stoic horizon]

well ok if you go attacks whisperer is cool for that yeah

[elfin shale]

2 belts and Foulborn gloves

[stoic horizon]

but for spell eblade scav is the go

[empty bronze]

you only need it to go off like once every 4 seconds or so

[pulsar dune]

Foulborn gloves huh

[elfin shale]

Foulborn Meginord's Girdle

Or

[fringe idol]

can someone link the post nerf pherisa ascendencies or they not out yet

[empty bronze]

or you just use a big damaging skill like the retaliation one and you dont need triple damage

[elfin shale]

Meginord's Vise

[stoic horizon]

if they were they'd be in #poe1-news

[rancid peak]

Yeah, I was thinking of that with Kitavas thirst as well

[pulsar dune]

Surely one ascendancy node for mana cost is absurd

[pulsar dune]

Oh interesting

That's a good item

[rancid peak]

Either that or Indigon

[short seal]

have they released the acsendancy changes for phrecia yet? please tell me my paladin isnt dead

[stoic horizon]

no

[empty bronze]

it'll show up in #poe1-news when they do

[rancid peak]

Health Stack + Mana Stack, Eldritch Battery, MoM, Mana Mana Mana, etc

[stoic horizon]

also doubt paladin will be touched

its strong but not an outlier

[pulsar dune]

Anyway, don't do dual mana es stack unless you have some very powerful payoffs, not just two flats and maybe indigon

[stoic horizon]

mana + es stack kinda trolling without hiero

[short seal]

imo, its one of the most op from phrecia via aura bot route

[hexed mountain]

tbh i think there will be 2 types of classes touched : 1) the ones that have a duplicate node with bloodlines 2) blind prophet/scav/whisperer

[split maple]

ancom will get hit and whisperer imo

[short seal]

thank you, is there any news on when they might give the information? or we in the dark still?

[rancid peak]

Either tomorrow or Monday most likely

[empty bronze]

im not doing this

we dont know

[hexed mountain]

they will at very least make blind prophet require to actually be blind to get the 12% base crit

the downside disapearing with a pantheon is just silly

[pulsar dune]

I guess it'd be thematic

[empty bronze]

it shows up when it shows up

[hexed mountain]

at least always hit has a cost

[grizzled lily]

#poe1-news its here no way

[pulsar dune]

Coc blind prophet seems kinda nice actually

[livid quarry]

should be buffing everything instead of nerfing

[pulsar dune]

CoC rolling magma blind prophet

[livid quarry]

temp league is barely a month

need more players

[grizzled lily]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[stoic horizon]

sir this is poe

nerf or nothing

[pulsar dune]

Hm, maybe I play that

[grizzled lily]

hmmm ermmm something something ancestral commandah ermm something something slams ooga booga

[rancid peak]

Wonder how many people aren't going to be able to make it out of act 1 with the random map modifiers 🤣

[stoic horizon]

honesty with the cdr ancestral has you can do strikes with warcries even

[grizzled lily]

that sounds dogshiii

[stoic horizon]

or just slam with real attack speed

[grizzled lily]

omega burst ancestral commandah earthshatter

but then im too lazy to do campaign again afterwards

[stoic horizon]

tbh reverse eartshatter graft is still there so shatter still op

[grizzled lily]

i think phrecia is so good you can just go with your main build right away no need to play slams day 1 day 2

[short seal]

i hope the boss changes they mention are the changes they did for ziz gauntlet. that would be awesome

[rancid peak]

True. A non Hardcore Gauntlet would be cool

[grizzled lily]

those map mods are so bad tbh

i think they will brick so many builds

[short seal]

they specifically mention it wont brick builds

[pulsar dune]

Maybe eye of winter instead actually

[grizzled lily]

we dont know what ggg means by

bricking builds

lmao

[pulsar dune]

So that I can use a bloodline

[grizzled lily]

ggg can say umm yea reduced recovery isnt truly bricking builds so every rf player will die

inside

[short seal]

i suppose, but 99.9% chance the map mods are just things that ziz has done in gauntlets. (turbo/extra proj/phys as extra) that kinda stuff

[stoic horizon]

double foulborn tulborn eye of winter mines surfcast sounds fun

[rancid peak]

Should be pretty obvious what mods they mean when they use reflect as an example

[pulsar dune]

IDK if you get enough ailment magnitude

[rancid peak]

Mods that brick the most popular builds early game 👍

[pulsar dune]

EoW doesn't exactly hit hard

[grizzled lily]

we forget this is phrecia and not hc gauntlent

[pulsar dune]

Just hits a ton

[grizzled lily]

or what

[rancid peak]

Not a SINGLE person said it was

[golden moat]

kinda lame theres no good spell totem ascendancy or totem ascendancy in general for phercia.

[pulsar dune]

It's just ancom, yea

But that's kinda not enough

[golden moat]

only +1 totem is on commander

[stoic horizon]

with mines you dont reflect anyway

you'd need to use trarthus bladefall with minimum chill effect node

[fickle glen]

Aren’t there gears that increase totem count?

[pulsar dune]

IG min chill just means shock is dead, one dead node is fine-ish

[golden moat]

that same gear exists in base league so how is this relevant?

[rancid peak]

I might even do Spark Surf/whisp

[pulsar dune]

I'd probably do selfcast on Surfcaster tho

[grizzled lily]

are totems spells

[stoic horizon]

depends

[golden moat]

if they have spell tag

[fickle glen]

Nvm

[pulsar dune]

Summoning a totem isn't you casting a spell

[stoic horizon]

if you go ballista you can use, but spell totem no

[pulsar dune]

Spell skills deal no damage would definitely brick spell totems, and they'd also end up disabled

[stoic horizon]

and no spells = no auras

[pulsar dune]

Since every spell totem has the spell tag

[hexed mountain]

devout of gruthkul + pelt unironically looks like a very fun combo to play

18% base life regen is wild

[pulsar dune]

600 life, 18 regen

That's a lot

[hexed mountain]

slap in regen rate and you're quickly sitting at 30+%

[stoic horizon]

perfect for rf

[golden moat]

ig i just go surfcaster if i want shockwave totem

[elfin shale]

Would Surfcaster maybe be a good choice for Absolution of Inspiring

Convert all to lightning, then cold and use Hatred

[pulsar dune]

Yea Surfcaster is really good lightning spell asc

Take both chill nodes as well

[rancid peak]

Spark Surf, double Heralds, May even triple if I can put enough fire on there too, CoC EoW for bosses, ISoS for mapping, etc

[golden moat]

yes

hopefully they change these ascendancies up and make them more well rounded for all the skills in the game. just hope we dont get patch notes 12 hrs before launch

[grizzled lily]

isnt this giga?

impending doom

but its a minion build type

:(

[rancid peak]

Go 7 link gloves for CoC, Spark inside the archdemon helm with Hypo, aoe and crit, Heralds in a 4 link boots with enlightened, Same with Discipline and Wrath in Wand, Chest is still unknown atm

[stoic horizon]

for id you go harbi

[grizzled lily]

booooooooring

harbi ascendency is so bad

[fickle glen]

Last league I seen a mercenary caster with a giant zombie minion, how do I summon that minion?

[opaque wing]

You cannot, Raise Zombie of Giganticism is not a player skill.

[fickle glen]

GGG are just a tease

[stoic horizon]

its perfect for id tho

you are on witch so less cast speed needed

you get cdr

hex aoe

[strong totem]

Harby is coc ice nova

[golden phoenix]

Excuse you

I'm doing frozen legion harbinger and I'm excited about it

[grizzled lily]

login

ggg employee said theyre playing harbi

giga buffed this league

[golden moat]

also rly hope they include what mods GGG considers 'build bricking mods' in patchy notes so i can build around that

[golden phoenix]

I played harbi frozen legion last time too I think

[grizzled lily]

its fine dude most mods will be easily bypassed hahaha maybe

[golden moat]

not rly, esp not early

[opaque wing]

Its probably just mods like CDR mods, No Regen/Leech, and the obvious reflect.

[grizzled lily]

just play ci

[normal hedge]

being ci changes nothing lol

[grizzled lily]

ci is cool

blue hp

[gritty epoch]

red es bad

[golden moat]

watch the #% reduced regen rate slip thru, RFers in shambles

[grizzled lily]

yellow hp kinda cool but too expensive

[opaque wing]

I mean, I can at least see the argument for that one, unlike the no recovery ones. I suspect the one that will slip through is the avoid ailments one.

[grizzled lily]

.<

[golden moat]

i could also see charge steal being a issue for some ppl

avoid ele ailment one would be hilarious if it slipped thru

[opaque wing]

Charge steal doesn't brick builds implicitly, it makes them annoying sure though.

[fickle glen]

Does this phrecia thing comes out when keepers league ends?

[opaque wing]

No, keepers keeps running

[elfin shale]

If avoid poison/bleed/impale slips through im going to lose my mind

[golden moat]

just play commander slams like everyone else xD... they have to nerf commander bigly to stop that from happening

[grizzled lily]

good thing that the parent league is keepers, time to get rich

[golden moat]

-1 end, 10% defiance would stil lbe playable

[elfin shale]

Honestly i hope they just bring every ascendancy up to Commander's level

[golden moat]

yea commander belong in a different game lol

jugg cant even compare

[normal hedge]

time to farm 100k yellow juice per map and send it to keepers

[hybrid harness]

just gonna make yellow worth 10k per div in keepers too

[crimson hearth]

im act 5 now in half hour thanks for the campaign advice

btw are mines/traps good on iceshot

[stoic horizon]

ice shot of penetration mines is a real build

but for normal not really

[crimson hearth]

so would mines+skiterbots through campaign be good? im following build guide this onehttps://pobb.in/27OGGMB7S7Qg

[stoic horizon]

dont think you are meant to level with that skill

but dunno

[golden moat]

need patch notes cuz i wanna make a AFK Ultimatum build for phercia

[stoic horizon]

emiracle already made like 3

[crimson hearth]

oh ok but is the build itself good?

[stoic horizon]

yes

[normal hedge]

it has good clear, but it’s made of thin paper

[stoic horizon]

so a classic miner

[normal hedge]

when i played saboteur rolling magma it was so tanky, especially after i got ff/ff spellbreaker + wicked ward

[golden moat]

lol thx

[crimson hearth]

survivability is bad yeah idk any better builds

[normal hedge]

if u're having fun keep playing it

you'll be more tanky after getting a lightning coil

[crimson hearth]

if you know a better iceshot guide could you tell me? anyways wtf is a lightning coil lol

[opaque wing]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Lightning_Coil

[normal hedge]

the body armour your guide recommends

[crimson hearth]

oh ok

[normal hedge]

i dont think theres any ice shot guide around besides this one

[crimson hearth]

is iceshot/bow builds not meta anymore or what

[normal hedge]

bows are in a bad spot but they're 100% playable

[opaque wing]

They are still meta, on the HIGH END, which is the problem with being new to the game and trying to play them

That said, you can still make a solid build out of them, just guide content for PoE1 is very heavy towards meta, and jank off meta, with nothing really for just okay skills.

[crimson hearth]

well i tried slams i was bored ash because consol slams are hard also i have no idea what to run so i js chose iceshot

whats a rly good build rn? i could try after iceshot

[opaque sphinx]

Bows are fine on the low end and are one of the best league starters for blasting still

[strong totem]

Bog shaman poison bv is good for console

[opaque wing]

Define in what way you want a "really good build"

There's so many axes of things in the game that its hard to give an answer that isn't me just screenshotting the list of most played builds off Ninja

[strong totem]

I win the build suggestion competition

[opaque sphinx]

Hyrri chest + amu
2xtaming
Styg

[crimson hearth]

endgame viable eg fast clears good bossing but accesible so not like 90d+ to start seeing results

[opaque sphinx]

Catmines

[crimson hearth]

i tried kb safe to say never again ts expensive\

[crimson hearth]

huh

[charred brook]

kb can run on almost nothing though?

[golden moat]

for phercia or base leg

[strong totem]

Whether a build is expensive or not is mostly not knowing how to play within it's limits

[crimson hearth]

base league

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/sPO00WSpgrie

Catmines

[crimson hearth]

oh il check it out looks nice

[opaque wing]

My gut says to lean towards phys dot elementalist, there's a lot of good guide content on that, it clears really really well, it can do alright tank, and it will with a minor bit of investment scale up to good bossing.

[opaque sphinx]

It maps like spark and bosses kinda same way but more ST on lower budget

[crimson hearth]

if its not stupidly expensive sure why not

[golden moat]

eviscerate ignite elementalist can AFK basically all content and it fairly console friendly. its also p budget friendly

[opaque wing]

It should be fine, assuming console prices are not that out of control, like the worst thing would be cluster jewels late game, in which case you'd just learn to roll your own.

[crimson hearth]

console prices are doing good actually clusturs are bassicly extinct rn so il roll my own

[tight plinth]

what characters you already have leveled?

[crimson hearth]

thx tho il see them all

[crimson hearth]

new acc i lost the old one 🙁

so basicly nothing

[tight plinth]

ooof

gl

[still vine]

i found this and thought it was really cool
credit: Monklybusiness#7000
(might have to open in browser and zoom in to see it in high definition)

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[elfin shale]

This might be dumb of me but why dont more builds run Shockwave support

[stoic horizon]

forces you into mace/staff

[plush gulch]

Forbidden rite, should it bé played poison or hit dmg is good also ? I was thinking going life scaling

[finite quail]

The ai slop is strong with this one

[tight plinth]

its also in a weird spot between fast small hits and slow big hits

[finite quail]

(maybe)

[elfin shale]

Medium medium hits?

[plush gulch]

I need to find a way to have a Flask 100% uptime as a bog shaman without traitor

🤔

[tight plinth]

eh?

i guess technically you can use energy blade

[lean urchin]

"Requires a Non-Bow weapon"

[plush gulch]

Mageblood works but wont be able to buy it in 3 weeks

[elfin shale]

Hm

Scav Doomfletch + Trauma should be giga stonks huh

[tight plinth]

munin

[elfin shale]

Yesm

Doomfletch the ascendancy node

[tight plinth]

how many builds have you cooked so far?

[fickle glen]

Someone gave me this item, it’s a unique item but don’t know why it’s colored blueish to purple, anyone know why it has that color?

[elfin shale]

That ive seriously attempted to cook? Two. Toxic Rain Bog Shaman and Pestilent Strike anything at all

[tight plinth]

its foiled

[fickle glen]

Foiled means?

[elfin shale]

It just means it came from a Reliquary or Valdo's Puzzle Box

Its purely aesthetic

[tight plinth]

from reliquary keys

[rich widget]

watdoes Pestilent Strike do

[tight plinth]

yeah just visuals, its the same as the normal one

[fickle glen]

Ok ty

[tight plinth]

viper strike but worse

[elfin shale]

Its one of the worst strikes in the game. Basically it applies a secondary debuff to enemies that, when they die, applies a DoT to all nearby enemies that deals 50% of the remaining damage of all combined poisons on the dying enemy as damage per second

I think it has potential with Low Tolerance + Squirming Terror though

[tight plinth]

how was the TR? i tried pob-ing one but gave up realizing id need clusters

[elfin shale]

I think itd be pretty good but i was trying to do a weird gimmick so i gave up

If you play a mundane version im sure itd be strong

[rich widget]

wait why is ts uber bad?

[tight plinth]

got power crept

tbf, it wasnt that good when it came out

[elfin shale]

Thats it's only gimmick, so by default it has terrible single target, and the spread AoE on the debuff is INCREDIBLY small, meaning clear ALSO isnt good

[fickle glen]

How do I get points for this ascendancy?

[elfin shale]

Remove them from your main ascendancy

[opaque wing]

They're shared with your normal ascendancy points

[fickle glen]

Ooh

[rich widget]

wait this is like blight

[elfin shale]

Its not competing for top 5 worst skills or anything, but its definitely bottom 25 or so

[rich widget]

what is num 1 worst skill in the game

[haughty ermine]

discharge

[elfin shale]

Conversion Trap

Its legitimately unplayable in every measure

[tight plinth]

devouring totem

[lean urchin]

throw it on an essence mob

[tight plinth]

siphoning trap is also really bad

[lean urchin]

it heals you at least, life and mana

[tight plinth]

its probably playable but you can do better with any other trap

[elfin shale]

Devouring is the Flamewood totem of choice iirc

So it gets a pass

Or wait no thats Decoy Totem

[tight plinth]

both have the same hp i think but decoy saves you a mastery

i wanna do grasping vine shenanigans but everything on that ascendancy is ass for it

why is the spell slinger behind sacred wisp anyway?

do you want sacred wisp if youre slinging spells?

[elfin shale]

No lol

[stuck phoenix]

if you're feeling smart you can fix the query

it's just a matter of there's no actual stat for us to pull weapon requirement from

at least not on the wiki

and as such, all of that is handled with plaintext filtering

something like that

[crystal pawn]

I am considering.

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-conspiracy-conspiracy-board-gif-16269829

[golden moat]

phercia needs to come so im free from league of legends ranked

[bitter hound]

Is there cosmetic annoumecents on the fourms? I know POE.DB also shows cosmetics, I'm just trying to wish list stuff

I'll just manually look through all the cosmetic pages IG

[lean urchin]

for deals? or?

[bitter hound]

No in general

[lean urchin]

idk what "cosmetic announcments" is

[bitter hound]

if theres a forum channel with threads of cosmetics theyve released rather than me having to trawl each cosmetic tab, in the shop, to see what the newest releases are

[granite nexus]

i need patchnotes!

[thin warren]

Hey,
is it possible to whisper someone with the account name and/or show the account name in chat instead?

[lean urchin]

im 90% sure u can just whisper account and it whispers the online char

[stuck phoenix]

no

[lean urchin]

if dnd is off

ok 🙂

[stuck phoenix]

you can use a different char name

but otherwise it would be ambiguous

well, used to be

can't make your char name end on a #1234

but before denumerators, they had to be fully separated

because an account name could be the same as someone else's character

so how would it know

what you meant