1┃general

[fickle glen]

Omg.. the wasted time…

[proud gorge]

but yeah, while Saturation is technically the "highest played" version of Rain of Arrows on poe.ninja, it's almost exclusively in the form of MFA utility skill

LGoH and Culling Strike and so on

[nocturne saddle]

kjh

[proud gorge]

which makes sense, it's what the skill is naturally good at

I just wish it could exist as a real damage skill, to shine on its own

but alas, it seems not

to be fair, Cyclone is in basically the same spot

at least Cyclone can have Woespike though

[clear summit]

Can anyone help me fix up build? I’m really squishy and need more boss damage (I can run juiced t17s and kill Uber elder but I die a lot, and my boss damage is horrible)

[onyx adder]

#1019646743299764255 might sort you out

[proud gorge]

aw, lmao

look what they have taken from us

the infinite barrage

[whole bluff]

Neat

[proud gorge]

unfortunately Gluttonous Tide would actually be really bad for Saturation

due to it granting flat extra arrows

[whole bluff]

Pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew..

[proud gorge]

could be fun with some skill that fires in sequence with low base arrows though

[whole bluff]

Isn't it like only barrage

[frigid wedge]

scourge arrow is only good use of tides ive seen

[whole bluff]

How does it work on SA?

[proud gorge]

there's lots of skills that fire arrows in sequence

[frigid wedge]

sa shotguns per proj

[proud gorge]

especially if you slap Barrage support onto one

[frigid wedge]

same for tornado shot

[whole bluff]

On thorn arrows or trans version?

[frigid wedge]

anything u would consider spinehail on can go tides

[frigid wedge]

both shotgun

but its from the thorns yes

[whole bluff]

So you add a ton of arrows to get more consistent hits with thorn arrows?

[frigid wedge]

every main arrow can hit with 1 thorn arrow

or 1 per pod per main

but yes it scales w proj

[whole bluff]

But isn't pods capped to like 5?

[frigid wedge]

tornado shot also gains dps per extra projectile

[frigid wedge]

each arrow has individual cap

[proud gorge]

Scourge Arrow is just too good, since it has the ability to turn one extra arrow into a bunch of extra hits

[zinc jackal]

my 4th this league in ssf xdd

[barren river]

Go to #2┃general

[zinc jackal]

oh sry about that

[whole bluff]

But

Skill functions and interactions

Additional arrows (from support gems and items like Death's Harp) apply to the primary arrow, instead of the thorn arrows. Additional arrows cause spore pods to distribute evenly among each primary arrow, rather than in a line from player. Having more arrows than pods will not cause additional pods to spawn. Therefore at 5 stages Scourge Arrow will spawn 5 pods — if the player has 6 total arrows (5 additional) one of the arrows will not spawn a pod.

[frigid wedge]

yeah

ok

menace works tho

[proud gorge]

oh, was I lied to

[tight plinth]

has someone cooked up sometghing cool?

[proud gorge]

eh, it's just Scourge Arrow of Menace but with extra arrows

[whole bluff]

I cooked a potato once

[proud gorge]

I've been playing this weird Jiquani Triggerbots Foulborn Kitava's Thirst Saboteur build though

[frigid wedge]

sa of menace is 2 pod per arrow

[frigid wedge]

ive been playing this weird minecraft pack

[proud gorge]

which one

personally I enjoy GTNH, but man that's a long-ass pack

[frigid wedge]

cabin

friend had a server

[proud gorge]

ah, a 1.20 modpack

Create-based

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/samwise-gamgee-frodo-sam-lotr-gollum-gif-15924654

[proud gorge]

not for me, lmao, I'm one of those guys who's stuck in the past

[frigid wedge]

havent done anything w create icl

[proud gorge]

I mean, Create is a cool mod

[frigid wedge]

ive played every other mod in the pack atp other than the ones that need create

ive literally maxed out a magicbane

[proud gorge]

it's just also very emblematic of the newgen of minecraft mod packs

[frigid wedge]

other than the +1 max enchant level tomes

[proud gorge]

since absolutely everything uses Create, I guess in the same way that the old 1.7 modpacks all used IC2

[frigid wedge]

thats part of why i hate it sm

99% of the time it doesn't even thematically make sense

[proud gorge]

it's, uh, stylish I guess

that's the justification, its machines do animation-y things

[frigid wedge]

found some witch modpack with a bunch of lil magic mods and stuff and then they had create and 4 things

[proud gorge]

whereas the oldgen machines mostly just blink and make loud noises

maybe throw out some particle effects if they're feeling fancy

[frigid wedge]

nah the justification is its generic, easy to add recipes to and it has so many features that theres no reason to bother w other stuff

[steel light]

50m shipment, nice trap

[proud gorge]

ah, that's unfortunate to hear

[frigid wedge]

also it has like 500 different mods w add-ons

but like

pls find mods that actually fit ur modpack

[ornate patrol]

[proud gorge]

GTNH truly is the journey of a thousand miles

[pulsar dune]

I'll probably start a GTNH playthrough sometime.

[frigid wedge]

which one is that?

[ornate patrol]

[proud gorge]

Gregtech New Horizons

[frigid wedge]

oh right

i haven't played atm10tts yet

kinda wanna

[pulsar dune]

tts was funny, everything was kinda easy, except the chaos guardian, which crashed my game several times

[frigid wedge]

i cant play packs that fully take themselves seriously bc then theres no stupid fun items

[proud gorge]

apparently even if you know everything going in, know all the strats, and do things very efficiently, you're still looking at a multi-month playthrough

[frigid wedge]

and i love stupid fun items

[proud gorge]

I, meanwhile, am not what I could call hyper-efficient lmao

[frigid wedge]

i was playing permafrost a bit ago

kinda fun

[proud gorge]

but yeah, lots of Gain X on hit things for Saturation, but basically no payoffs for those things

maybe you could do something stupid with Indigon and mana on hit?

who knows

[ornate patrol]

Im in the middle of a nomifactory playthrough, fun but is often painful

[frigid wedge]

i gotta say reliquary is one of my fav mods rn and its dumb

[proud gorge]

actually is there any way to get Indigon to apply to attacks anymore

since Battlemage's Cry doesn't do that anymore

apparently the only option is the Wand Mastery

so wouldn't work with bow attacks anyways

[pulsar dune]

phrecia ascendancy

[tight plinth]

til apostate also includes shield as equpped armor items

[proud gorge]

well yeah, but I mean outside of Phrecia ascendancies

[pulsar dune]

then no

[proud gorge]

since that kind of limits the viability of the build outside of Phrecia

[split maple]

which is main reason why non-kboc folks are excited for whisperer

lets you do these builds

[frigid wedge]

i swear battlemage change was just done to screw over kbof

[barren river]

pls bring back old battlemage's cry

[proud gorge]

nah old Battlemage's Cry was good but also incredibly annoying to use

[barren river]

hear me out: zenith with royal burger

[frigid wedge]

how was the desk

[proud gorge]

bring back the effect in a less annoying manner

[barren river]

i did not eat it

[proud gorge]

stick the whisperer node in a Bloodline or something

[frigid wedge]

the effect used to be fine but they killed autoexert too

[barren river]

Or make it an aura

[frigid wedge]

bring back call to arms

with no exertion

for buffs

[whole bluff]

Ngl, the effect already exits. Indigon just isn't balanced

[proud gorge]

here's my stupid idea: A chestplate with "increases and reductions to spell damage also apply to Maximum Life at 40% of the value"

[barren river]

Something like this: "Battlemage's Aura(could not find a better name)", with the crown of eyes mod, and it reserves both life and mana, and levels grant it less reservation

[proud gorge]

actually 40% is maybe a bit high

25%

[whole bluff]

There is a perfectly fine BMC effect helm in Crown of Eyes, I don't understand what the complaints are all about

[proud gorge]

I just love the idea of some Indigon build fluctuating its spell damage and as a result causing wild fluctuations in maximum life

I want to see a build whose maximum life varies wildly from second to second

[barren river]

To use indigon or a royal burger with the accuracy mod

[split maple]

make it a belt

[whole bluff]

What is the royal burger?

[whole bluff]

True, indigon should be a belt

[barren river]

A Royal Burgonet

[proud gorge]

tbh we need more things that scale off of weird stats, or convert strange stats into each other

[barren river]

With -chaos res and acc=str

[whole bluff]

Ah

[proud gorge]

where's my weapon that scales off Stun threshhold

[whole bluff]

Fair, so it's not only indigon

Then it sounds more valid to me

Indigon should maybe be nerfed though

[barren river]

https://pobb.in/hUIv48VartEl

[woeful pumice]

Anyone on a mac m1 chip know what's the best option for playing?

[proud gorge]

gloves that convert excess crit chance into base lightning damage, crit chance stack

or actually probably percent lightning damage

[barren river]

Look at the helm on that guy

[proud gorge]

base lightning damage is probably too strong

[split maple]

its in ok shape outside of phrecia, especially coz after league ends there wont be anymore squaling graft and foulborn choir, so kboc will be in healthy state balance wise

[pulsar dune]

geforce now was the only thing that worked for me

[barren river]

I really want to use something else instead of crown of eyes for zenith

[woeful pumice]

Okay, thank you.

[woeful pumice]

Did you try standalone?

[whole bluff]

But indigon is like such an inverse ketchup bottle that also warps meta around it

[potent horizon]

Which lightning skill has tbe coolest MTX In your opinion

[pulsar dune]

spider spark

[whole bluff]

Crack cocaine lance

[pulsar dune]

I need to play crack lance sometime

[whole bluff]

It's so-so

[potent horizon]

I love that answer because I have no idea what you're talking about

[whole bluff]

But cool imo

[pulsar dune]

yea, but it worked pretty poorly, tho I don't remember the exact issues

[barren river]

Indigon is a stupid item(though it's also cool)

[proud gorge]

pork crackling lance

[barren river]

I want to see zenith indigon

[pulsar dune]

it is an interesting kind of % payoff at least

[barren river]

Can it even work?

[pulsar dune]

unlike the dozens of % per \d+ of stat payoffs in the game

zenith indigon should work pretty well in phrecia

[barren river]

Assuming that we had old battlemage's cry

I should POB that

[onyx adder]

Trust me u dont

Just watch a youtube video of the animation till u get bored

That gives u 100% of the upside of the skill

[proud gorge]

zenith indigon was good with old Battlemage yeah, it just couldn't reach the nonsensical screen-clearing heights of MFA battlemage

[whole bluff]

I like watching stuff like dark souls on YouTube

[potent horizon]

I might have to full lean into getting a fishing pole as priority 1 for phrecia

[barren river]

My condolences

[proud gorge]

Crackling Lance is, somehow, probably the best "arc"-styled skill in the game

that doesn't make it good, it just makes it better than Arc

and the other arc-likes

[whole bluff]

Tbf, my favourite is cocaine lance of disintegration

[barren river]

Also, IDK how they can buff self cast

[potent horizon]

I'll have to check it out I'm debating on architect of chaos vaal snap or a lightning spell for Cold conversion

[whole bluff]

Cuz it's just like 💥

[split maple]

just reduce mana costs by like 20%

and it will be close to sane

[barren river]

Whispers is a good crutch

[frigid wedge]

arc of oscillating w southbound has some potential

[proud gorge]

I did play Crackling Lance traps one time, it was alright

[frigid wedge]

if u use hateful accuser

[frigid wedge]

i hate that whisperer builds are so reliant on the ascendancy tho bc then the event ends and its just completely unplayable

[barren river]

I refer to Whispers of Infinity

[frigid wedge]

ohh

right

[whole bluff]

I think there's a bunch of cool things they could do. Like make temporal rift cost more reservation and cast your spells from the mirage

[frigid wedge]

that's

[whole bluff]

Make echo never animate twice

[frigid wedge]

a bit much

[whole bluff]

Cascade self cast only

[barren river]

Imagine if Awa Spel Echo was like Awa Multi

As in it adds another repeat

[potent horizon]

Is it possible to POB for phrecia yet

[frigid wedge]

if u assume no changes

[potent horizon]

I started using pob yesterday

[frigid wedge]

dorta

[normal hedge]

yes, change it to 3.26 ( alternate )

[potent horizon]

Ah thank you

Time to cook

[barren river]

Too bad that Pledge of Hands is ass

[potent horizon]

Also kinetic rain is stupid fun

[pulsar dune]

if you were going to play plume of pursuit, what phrecia ascendancy would work best? It's always surfcaster IG

[pale rose]

does this just mean play more maps

[wheat sinew]

don't remind me of that xddd

[pulsar dune]

yes, you will come across more objectives as you do

[stuck brook]

it will progress at certain map tiers

[tawdry olive]

no don't listen to them!!!

[barren river]

[stuck brook]

i think this is Zana still trying to stop us from going into the atlas

[timid scroll]

what will be your first farm when you get to t16? cant decide between legion and boxes, ofc we have to wait for patch

[hexed mountain]

Heist

[wheat sinew]

no not heist

[hexed mountain]

Yes heist

[wheat sinew]

anything but that

[hexed mountain]

Everyone will be competing for the good idols. I will snatch revealed blueprints and sell heist uniques at premium

[wheat sinew]

nuuuu

shhhh

don't ruin my strat >:(

[hexed mountain]

[wheat sinew]

https://tenor.com/bgFhG.gif

[dreamy charm]

i just want big scarab loot explosions is blight best for that?

in phricia

[hexed mountain]

Do hives if you want lootsplosion

[split maple]

i would bet on deli funnily enough

you can get like 30 reward tiles

open map, shot twice or thrice to get reward metres to 15 or smh like that, end deli, leave map

like move less than 2metres per map 😄

[pseudo axle]

harbinger imo

[wide patio]

guys sorry I have a easy question but I just cannot fnd it by googling - what is the new mtx called that tracks your gold and other stats in league its a table - and how do I buy it

[visual stream]

its twitch drop

u cant buy it

[frigid wedge]

what

when did that drop

isnt that mtx just the pilfering rung

[torn timber]

im trying to mess with oracle autobomber but mana flare just destroys me, i need an answer

[wide patio]

oh no thats bad news I really wanted to have it thanks for answer

[pseudo axle]

this guy I'm pretty sure is trolling you

I think there's some kinda table that you can buy

oh, apparently they're right

"Apparently in the announcement it clearly states all the drops from Keepers launch will be available for purchase at a later date."

just gotta be patient I guess

[wide patio]

ah cool that would have been the other qustion

ty for checking 🙂

[opal ingot]

you're welcome

[hexed mountain]

Chan dead already. Is league dead?

[ebon tendon]

Been dead

[hexed mountain]

Gotta wait for phrecia 3

[ebon tendon]

@ebon tendon @ebon tendon

Oop

[steel light]

phrecia league news = +1k players than the day before

[split maple]

How the fuck is keepers beating mercs 😄

but okay not the worst league retention wise anymore

[steel light]

keepers was 8.6k on day 78

[pulsar dune]

Merc did suck for longevity due to the Merc limit

[steel light]

merc had 10.4k on day 78 to 8.6k on day 79

[blissful zodiac]

this

[sleek barn]

async carrying keepers

although I'm not sure how much it's carrying

[split maple]

i can believe 1k jump is mostly due to folks doing legstart practice runs

somehow enough to jump over mercs in numbers

man if i have to run lighthouse one more time i will go crazy

tho i prolly "ran" more coves this league than i did lighthouses last one 😄

[normal hedge]

abyss was really good xp in phrecia but 0 loot

[fickle glen]

Sigh, I am not gonna get over losing my offering for a whole week 😭

Got geared up and worked hard to find that offering just to lose it due to connection

Not fair! 😭

[past mantle]

Where those notes?

[fickle glen]

Ok I can actually cheer up now because someone just sold me 2 of them

What if I disconnect again mid run tho… 🫥

[golden garden]

guys, whats your favourite class/ascendency and why?

(i am new)

[lilac parcel]

which is the most desirable t17 map outlay ?

and why ?

[pulsar dune]

varies league-on-league

[lilac parcel]

t17

[pulsar dune]

this time around I think zig since it drops the best frags

[lilac parcel]

what frags means ?

[normal hedge]

uber frags

[pulsar dune]

early league its usually fortress since easy boss

but in past leagues it was fortress even later due to barrels

[normal hedge]

outside frags, fortress because of barrels, other t17s have ~40% less loot because they dont have it

[stoic horizon]

i absolutely love slayer on duelist

[lilac parcel]

where can i find out which maps drop fortress? map t17

i wanna farm some

[stoic horizon]

its a very nice early game package, for juiced builds usually he is outclassed but for start he is amazing

[pulsar dune]

hold alt on the atlas

mapsofexile has it actually

probably more helpful

[lilac parcel]

i need a list of them cause i wanna see the layout

of each one

o need something long and clear

like strand

[normal hedge]

https://mapsofexile.com/

search for "fortress map"

[pulsar dune]

Silo?

[steel light]

fortress is the lowest mob density for t17 right? my containment are always low 30s

[stoic horizon]

silo is goated

[normal hedge]

is it wrong?

[normal hedge]

no

[pulsar dune]

yea I meant "Would silo work for you?"

some good maps ngl

[stoic horizon]

they want a linear layout and silo is definetly that

[lilac parcel]

whats the highest mob density map t17 sanctuary ?

[brazen vector]

Every map is linear if you are efficient and know the layouts

[stoic horizon]

hell naw

[lilac parcel]

including abomination ?

[stoic horizon]

channel 💀

[lilac parcel]

taking deli fog in consideration ?

[brazen vector]

Especially abomination

[stoic horizon]

unless we just talk about t17 then mayhaps

[earnest raven]

We need a t17 canyon

[brazen vector]

Channel is linear

[pulsar dune]

nah, there are maps which have various divots and such

[stoic horizon]

it has lots of backtracing

[normal hedge]

we need a t17 dunes

[lilac parcel]

a t17 beach

[brazen vector]

Get more aoe and better clear then

[agile epoch]

Are there any support builds out there?

[brazen vector]

[stoic horizon]

thats not what causes backtracking here

[agile epoch]

Was thinking about frost based with vaal cold snap and charge sharing

[stoic horizon]

like the map is just a bunch of H letters slapped together

[normal hedge]

yes, curse/aura/rarity/druggery/warcry bot

[stoic horizon]

you have the classic aurabot

there's also cursebot, warcrybot

[lilac parcel]

can you vaal a t17 for extra mods ?

2 more mods ?

[pulsar dune]

yes

[agile epoch]

Any specific ones or would you argue for team specific ones. I would prefer something rather active. Not a big fan of automatic stuff

[lilac parcel]

and if it fails it cant lose mods

t17 always full mods

[stoic horizon]

always aura is best, others are added if your team increases

[normal hedge]

all of them but aura bots arent really common

[agile epoch]

Auras feel like such an auto farmer stuff

[stoic horizon]

no

its just buffer

[elder marlin]

is it worth losing 25k evasion for 100% suppress?

[stoic horizon]

aurabot doesnt kill on its own at all

[modest sparrow]

Are we gonna get a patch notes/rebalancing stuff for the phrecia league btw or do I just start theorycrafting right away?

[normal hedge]

how u're losing 25k evasion for suppress

mb flask?

[agile epoch]

Maybe something more of a controller build then

[elder marlin]

1.4k dex magebane

[stoic horizon]

we will get notes but we theorycraft already anyway

[agile epoch]

Massive slows

[stoic horizon]

then cursebot

[agile epoch]

Less bot please

[stoic horizon]

all supports have bot in name

[normal hedge]

if you have other defensive layers id say evasion is less effective

[stoic horizon]

cuz they arent the main damage dealer, just support one dude dps

[steel light]

chisel, delirium orb or whatever before u corrupt it

[elder marlin]

i mean i have mom

[agile epoch]

So Im doing a scion atm. Been trying out frost nova and and vaal summon skeletons and vaal cold snap.

Guessing its pretty fringe

[stoic horizon]

yeah thats not a support, just normal cold dot build

except the summon part

[agile epoch]

Im trying to lean more into the slowing aspects

[stoic horizon]

except that these are done on occultist not scion

[agile epoch]

And frost bomb

For res shred

I dont need the easy mode builds

I want interactions

Play around incompetent party members etc

[stoic horizon]

cold dot even done optimally is not ez mode

[agile epoch]

Positioning matters

[stoic horizon]

well it matters for every build

[normal hedge]

maybe another game then

[agile epoch]

Well happy to hear

[agile epoch]

Maybe. But with the customisability Id argue its possible. Which is why im asking

[lilac parcel]

what is the most okay divination card to farm

one that actualy drops time from time

one that i can actualy see?

[brazen vector]

Other party members? Those exist?

[agile epoch]

We’re 4 playing in a group

[stoic horizon]

generally if you want a "support" build that also does something on its own, literally just play any build that uses same auras/curses or other buffs as the other person in party

[agile epoch]

Just preparing them for poe2

[stoic horizon]

just relying on chill isnt really a support build

[agile epoch]

Exactly.

But i dont want to stat check

[stoic horizon]

this whole game is one big stat check

although its true that with skill you can do stuff less geared than others

[agile epoch]

I know. But Im thinking its possible if we just try to lean into other things

[stoic horizon]

although that mostly applies to bosses not regular content

[agile epoch]

I mean 99% of the playerbase want the aoe clearing of screens with a button for speed running. Id like to attempt something else

[finite quail]

why not play poe 2 then

[ocean field]

how to reduce cost when using coiling whisper and whispers amulet

[agile epoch]

How much hard cc is there?

[elder marlin]

poe is a numbers go up kind of game

[finite quail]

wdym by hard cc

[elder marlin]

none

[normal hedge]

stun and freeze?

[brazen vector]

Stun!

[agile epoch]

I have. But they are waiting for it to go f2p

[normal hedge]

hard cc = 1shot everything, stuff cant do anything if theyre dead

[ocean field]

any solutions???

[agile epoch]

So what stuns would be accessible for a support going into freeze and charge sharing?

[finite quail]

Stun, freeze, and other forms of lowering action speed

[brazen vector]

Cost of what

[finite quail]

You don't really double dip

[agile epoch]

Yeah i have the curse that givea -15% action speed

[ocean field]

cost of using bladefall

[finite quail]

stunning isnt worth shit if its not multiple seconds

[stoic horizon]

personally i played a build that 22 characters in the whole league so non meta is definetly possible, but still there are some limitations how suboptimal you can go

[finite quail]

and for it to do that you need to build around stun

[ocean field]

ES rn is 11%

[agile epoch]

Right its pretty incompatible. But thats the fun part. And where scion comes into play

[ocean field]

combined with other costs will ko me in 5 secs

[finite quail]

if by fun you mean your build not doing anything and dying to mobs, sure

[elder marlin]

at this point, i can only say goodluck, dont rage quit if ur build does nothing

[finite quail]

Your build needs to be specialized into very few things most of the time if you want it to really work

[agile epoch]

Well I do like to feel like its difficult and dangerous

[agile epoch]

But thats mostly for dps maxing

No?

[elder marlin]

support also need to specialize

[finite quail]

No not really

Its for any kind of build in the game

[agile epoch]

If I was to try to reach for stun and perhaps dex casting

[finite quail]

Supports are also specialized

[steady elk]

@tranquil sedge did a buncg of t16 maps 😭

i got some from a friend and was like fuck it ill try em out

[stoic horizon]

stuns REALLy are not worth it outside of some specific cases

[agile epoch]

Any tips for gearing?

[finite quail]

You can be a curse support or a warcry support or an aurabot or a freeze support, stuff like that

[brazen vector]

Dex casting?

[agile epoch]

So when is it that u wanna go for stuns?

[finite quail]

Trying to be multiple things often turns into your build just not working

[finite quail]

when you're a melee build

[agile epoch]

U can turn dex into cast speed

[finite quail]

And you're near stun nodes

And you're not made of paper, aka scion

[stoic horizon]

yeah basically only melee can stun reliably

and not all

[finite quail]

you don't really do spells and stun at the same time

[stoic horizon]

• stun does close to nothing on bosses

[empty verge]

offtopic but thats not how version numbers work

[finite quail]

That too unless you build really hard into stun

[agile epoch]

Which skill gems are the best for stunning then?

[stoic horizon]

heavy strike

[normal hedge]

slams

[stoic horizon]

but its a meme skill

[steady elk]

boneshatter juggernaut is built around stunning

[agile epoch]

Yeah. I havent played the game for 10 years or so. Just leveled up to 35 now

[finite quail]

Heavy strike, leap slam, stuff like that

Boneshatter too yeah

[steady elk]

are you trying to buildcraft with little to no experience in the game?

[elder marlin]

any slam skills

[stoic horizon]

tbh i was like them when i started

[elder marlin]

actually only ground slam and heavy slam

[steady elk]

we all were

[brazen vector]

Has a whole list https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Stun

[stoic horizon]

i did some wonky crap and had issues as soon as i hit maps

[steady elk]

likewise

[finite quail]

You could way more reliably focus on cold damage to chill/freeze enemies for "hard cc" compared to stunning enemies

[agile epoch]

The only thing im missing is item knowledge

[stoic horizon]

far more than that trust me

[steady elk]

far more than that buddy

[finite quail]

But you're asking what skills are good for stun bro

[elder marlin]

do u even have a build in mind like main skill, main mechanics?

[finite quail]

You're missing a little more than item knowledge

[steady elk]

my second character is a boneshatter of complex trauma jugg and my experience in the game become 100x better just following someone else's guides

i did the whole wing it and buildcraft thing on my 1st and it didn't get very far with sunder berzerker

was struggling with t4s

[agile epoch]

I dont enjoy guides. But I dont mind discussing preferences

[elder marlin]

people who play decided to play scion r either multi mirrors owner or people who dont know what to focus on

[stoic horizon]

also one thing new players misunderstand about guides is that you arent exactly just doing a clone of some other person's character, you follow guidelines on whats good and not and adapt to what you can get and your personal preferences

[steady elk]

unfortunately poe1 is one of those games where you gotta let the the 10k + hours players write the guides and follow theirs at the start

[finite quail]

I'd recommend you go for cold damage and freezing rather than stuns

[agile epoch]

Well there are no guides for what im attempting, cause its not really what people usually are looking for

[finite quail]

Trust me, it'll feel better to play and it'll be more fun

[stoic horizon]

ive been playing this game for 9 years and im yet to make a truly my own build that is successful

[agile epoch]

Thats what im doing now

But sorta want to broaden it

[elder marlin]

well bc freezing and stunning is not a build

[agile epoch]

But it is what i want

[normal hedge]

if u're planning ur build around freeze at least do a warden

[stoic horizon]

freezing is just a thing cold dmg based builds do thats it

its a part of the build not whole point of it

[elder marlin]

ok theres 2 kind of survivability in this game, either u kill everything or u tank everything, theres no in between really

[brazen vector]

COD begs to differ

[elder marlin]

[finite quail]

Yeah they dont really work together very well by themselves already

[elder marlin]

witness my very tanky cod portal

[finite quail]

I mean

[brazen vector]

Oh right, cold crits cant stun

[finite quail]

What you're thinking of is a scion speccing into freeze and stun, with no critical strikes

You have zero damage, zero survivability, and you're speccing into two things which dont work well together in the first place

If you wanna bash your head against the wall with something we're recommending you don't try with in the first place, be my guest

But I wouldn't bother, because it'll just taint your experience of the game, trust me

[elder marlin]

i mean there r better way to bash ur head against the wall than this

play a bosser for mapping

[agile epoch]

Ok so no stuns and no auras

Guess theres little else to it

[elder marlin]

what is ur character gonna be?

[brazen vector]

Why no auras

[finite quail]

Once again, I recommend to just spec into cold damage for chilling/freezing

[agile epoch]

I wanted a utility support without auras

Playing a scion

[brazen vector]

Auras are the biggest utility and scion is the best for it in a sense

[empty verge]

sad fact is there's not really a whole lot of utility you can actually provide outside of auras

[finite quail]

You can also get sources of reduced movement speed like hinder or maim, temporal chains for less action speed, maybe aspect of the spider? dunno if that lowers action speed

[agile epoch]

Crit with low dmg might do

[elder marlin]

cull rarity bot is the best i can think of

[finite quail]

What's the point in critting if you're not dealing damage

[agile epoch]

Not sure how it works with high cast speeds

[agile epoch]

Stunning

[finite quail]

Thats not how it works

You need to deal a certain threshold of an enemies life for them to be stunned

[brazen vector]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Stun

[finite quail]

What are you gonna do if your hits just tickle them

[agile epoch]

No? Somebody said frost crits could stun

[agile epoch]

I dont plan on being hit

[empty verge]

they can stun IF you remove their ability to freeze

[finite quail]

We said they dont stun, not under normal conditions

[agile epoch]

Defenses i guess

[brazen vector]

Read again

[finite quail]

Also in order to stun anyways, you still need to deal enough damage

Big bonk = me stunned

small bonk = me not stunned

[elder marlin]

i mean its impossible, i have a 99% lucky block glad with eva and i still get hit

[stoic horizon]

thats why melee is better at stunning

slow big hits

[agile epoch]

Yeah dont want that

[finite quail]

I guess you could do something ranged

[elder marlin]

spell cant(usually) stun

[finite quail]

A scion with bows with ice shot and ensnaring arrow?

For support?

I guess

[agile epoch]

Close enough

[finite quail]

It should work if what you're trying to do is slow enemies down

[brazen vector]

Why not go temp chain blasphemy and scale temp chain

[finite quail]

You're not gonna be able to do it very reliably because the concept itself doesn't work very well, but thats what I'd do if I were you

[finite quail]

He's already using temp chains

[stoic horizon]

i already told them about cursebot

[brazen vector]

Huh okay

But thats an aura

[elder marlin]

poe is all abt commitment, so commit to smt

[finite quail]

blasphemy turns it into an aura

temp chains is a curse

[agile epoch]

I will commit to toolboxing

[empty verge]

moreso that you don't have to go from 0.9 to 1.0, they can absolutely get to like 0.15 or something and means something quite different from normal decimal numbers

[brazen vector]

Which is far superior

[empty verge]

hence why current league is 3.27 for example

[finite quail]

mana reservation

[brazen vector]

They dont have other auras

[elder marlin]

impresence

[finite quail]

You lose an amulet slot for that

Also you're thinking of solstice vigil

[empty verge]

also bears mentioning that most scary enemies generally still move about while frozen
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/List_of_monsters_that_cannot_be_fully_slowed

[agile epoch]

Well I just got home. Will give it a run for the money. Thanks

[finite quail]

Oh nvm impresence also has a temp chains mod

since there's this

[elder marlin]

fun fact, stun and freeze dont always work bc of the mod "monster cant be fully slowed"

[steady elk]

holy christ bros im suffering from no currency tab

when does next league start?

im praying that the league packs are better than this garbage so i can buy dat shit

[finite quail]

3.28 early march

the phrecia rerun starts in about a week

and lasts for about 3 weeks

You know what phrecia is?

[steady elk]

MAN

terrible news for stashcels

[elder marlin]

impresence has free frostbite, which is 25% freeze chance

[finite quail]

wdym

leagues have nothing to do with stash tab sales

stash tabs always go on sale from time to time

[elder marlin]

seperated league

[finite quail]

Every two weeks normally

[steady elk]

no but i figured that if i spend money on this game im gonna get some decent outfits and the tabs themselves

[finite quail]

Well that'll be in early march

[steady elk]

unfortunate value for money comes from the league packs and i really dislike the current ones

[finite quail]

for 3.28

You could get the first blood pack

gives you like 200 points for 20 bucks and like, 6 stash tabs or something? and a couple effects

Oh no my bad

one additional stash tab

[steady elk]

it's not a bad deal but i figured that if i buy a supporter pack i would get a fair bit more points to spend on mtx

[finite quail]

Then yeah

3.28 in early march it is

[steady elk]

😔

[elder marlin]

https://pobb.in/5Wd5zg72p5Sy is there any cheap upgrade i can get with this?

ideally improve the phys max hit

[finite quail]

You're kinda stacked already

Lemme check

[ocean field]

anyone knows how to reduce the cost of bladefall of trathus when using energy shield or ways to mitigate it

[finite quail]

endu charges every x seconds on the body armor implicit and getting the charge mastery for more duration?

I guess

[elder marlin]

i mean thats 5 points abit too hard

[finite quail]

Yeahhhh

[sleek barn]

EB and bladefall of trarthus kinda go hand in hand

its the easiest way to sustain it

but if you have MoM as well you need leech or ES on hit

[hexed mountain]

you can do inner conviction

wait that's not the one i meant , its power charge

power of purpose

to make the cost a lot lower

and then have sources of flat regen

[eager lion]

https://pobb.in/uusk-tSKpO4J BS or nah

[split maple]

idk 5 overlaps kinda dont sound reasonable to me

maybe 2-3

[finite quail]

why do you have 15 ballistas

[pulsar dune]

It's overlaps * ballista count

[split maple]

obviously each of balistas hits very large enemy 5x

but yea 5 would be reasonable if krain looked like in preleague reveal

[finite quail]

Ah

[split maple]

but it was prenerfed so kinda 2-3 maybe

[finite quail]

I fogor its kinetic rain of impact

[eager lion]

Ty, so legit POB

[split maple]

just divide dmg by 2

still looks reasonable

[finite quail]

Ehhhhh

I guess

Sure

[frigid wedge]

its still bullshit that kr got a Trans gem before it even dropped

[pulsar dune]

The wand needing accuracy suffix is a bit scary

But it'll be fine

[tranquil sedge]

not as hard as it sounds like right 😛

now u can farm and push ur build to wherever u like

and more importantly you can do this again on your own when next league starts, now that you've done it once

[steady elk]

SIGNIFICANTLY easier to understand now that I've done it

But I'm clueless when it comes to crafting

No idea where to start with that either

Or what all these explicit implicit stuff means

[stoic horizon]

those are just mod groups

[tranquil sedge]

u start by making simple things instead of buying them

u learn with time

much more chill process than trying to read a manual on crafting

[stoic horizon]

i remember +3 bows introducing me to crafting

[tranquil sedge]

oh i need these boots hmm can i make them okay lets try

[stoic horizon]

back when ea was meta starter

[tranquil sedge]

and maybe u fuck up maybe u spend more than it costs on trade who cares

u learn

[steady elk]

The basic stuff like links and slots I get but outside of that it's all jargon

[stoic horizon]

generally all the complex crafting stuff is about knowing how to increase changes of getting what you want the most

all the mod blocking etc

[tranquil sedge]

most casual gear is kind of trivial to make tho tbh

when i say casual gear

i mean things u can accomplish with simple methods

fracture + essence spam + maybe a bit of harvest or even a wild veiled chaos maybe

[hexed mountain]

recomb gaming

[tranquil sedge]

then u can introduce eldritch crafting to the mix and now u got more fun stuff

most gear is simple to make if u just learn how to think about it

thats pretty much what people need to know when learning to craft

u dont learn to craft every single item in the game

u just learn how to approach trying to make an item

[hexed mountain]

its a shame its keeper league base for the event because you can craft super good mamba weapons for very cheap since the change to resistances on weapons

[tranquil sedge]

and then u work it out with the tools u got

like for example

[hexed mountain]

but i'm not running mamba for hives

[tranquil sedge]

say u wanted to make this pretty nice body armor

theres 5 mods and 1 crafted mod for a total of 6

'how would i make this?'

[steady elk]

mind implodes

[hexed mountain]

the humble single socket resonator:

[stoic horizon]

i want to try energy blade abusing this time

[steady elk]

im get what you're saying but at the same time it's not going into my head kek

[tranquil sedge]

its not that difficult i'll literally talk you through this one

[stoic horizon]

since es gear is so ez with tree

[tranquil sedge]

its like

just see the steps for this item

[hexed mountain]

yeah didnt end up doing an ES build but tree gaves me several T1 ES fractured gear

[tranquil sedge]

i know i want dex, chaos res, those 3 defence prefixes, and crafted finally that 6% mod

[hexed mountain]

its nuts

[tranquil sedge]

well my crafted mod is a suffix

rare items can have 3 prefix 3 suffix

well if i finish one side first maybe the other is easier?

okay so lets do the side that has more first then

prefixes

[stoic horizon]

i did use es on my build but only for defenses

[tranquil sedge]

all 3 prefixes are defensive prefixes

they just add es and armor and stuff

[stoic horizon]

and eblade looks damn busted

[tranquil sedge]

they're all also 'tagged' as 'defence'

now from experience i know that dense fossils are really good at defence mods

what if i just spam those

turns out the odds are good enough to go for it

BUT fossils reroll the entire item

so if i did suffixes first it would be pointless

so prefixes it is

but im gonna put eldritch implicits on the item anyway right

it would be that means fracture is allowed

[stoic horizon]

ngl its prefixes-> suffixes most of the time

[hexed mountain]

tbh dense fossil spamm is just the cheapest unless you recomb

[split maple]

denses 😉

[tranquil sedge]

why not make life easier if i could maybe LOCK one suffix in place

right from the start

[wispy comet]

i really hope they end up extending the event

[umbral crag]

@split maple @opaque sphinx https://pobb.in/BimDlj-ZGkkh fixed some of the stats like chest corrupt and the flask ele resist, changed the graft kek

[tranquil sedge]

thats what i did with dexterity

fracture dex, so its stuck on the item for good

now one suffix is immediately done

[hexed mountain]

the event is probably going to be cooler than 3.28

[tranquil sedge]

then i spammed fossils for all 3 prefixes

[hexed mountain]

[tranquil sedge]

so now 4 mods are done

finally i want chaos res, and its a classic crafting tool to just reforge chaos (harvest bench) to get chaos res

but i wanna save my prefixes

[split maple]

25bil done, 75 to go

[tranquil sedge]

so 'lock prefixes' reforge chaos, i got good odds of hitting the chaos res i want

and if i lose the odds well no big deal its an eldritch item

i can infinitely keep retrying

[split maple]

you missing anoint on that chest @umbral crag

[finite quail]

its bullshit that fireball hasnt gotten a transfig gem yet

[umbral crag]

i can't see how tbh HAHAH

[tranquil sedge]

so that sounds like a lot but its literally just

• fracture dex
• dense fossil spam prefix
• lock prefix reforge chaos suffix
• finish with bench mod

[sleek barn]

fireball of balling

[tranquil sedge]

and now that u made this one item guess what

[umbral crag]

[sleek barn]

just does what the old threshold jewel does

[tranquil sedge]

its the same to make a shitton of body armors

[frigid wedge]

fireball of lag

[sleek barn]

increases radius as it travels

[frigid wedge]

1% proj speed

[tranquil sedge]

what if i wanted an essence mod suffix instead of the dexterity

cool i fracture that instead

[frigid wedge]

hits multiple times

per second

[tranquil sedge]

what if i wanted energy shield armor instead of evasion

[frigid wedge]

like spark

[tranquil sedge]

same steps, new base

what if i wanted to make a HELMET with the same mods

turns out its the same process

[sleek barn]

fireball that ignores immunity frames

[tranquil sedge]

like
this is just a gradual application of simple steps

make one item and u feel more confident in making more

u only have a limited set of tools and u just apply them in different ways

most basic gear could literally just be fracture one mod, essence spam (second mod) until you hit a third mod or even fourth mod, then finish with a benchcraft

takes maybe 10 minutes to explain as a new player

and then it goes up from there

[steady elk]

that makes more sense ty

[tranquil sedge]

most crafts end up just being this

[finite quail]

Fireball of the Nova, making it deal less flat damage but gains way more projectiles that shoot in a nova, like spark of the nova

[tranquil sedge]

you identify which side to do first

and even that is kinda straightforward sometimes

like for example if you see a non-fractured essence mod? yea they started that side

or if you see a fractured essence mod? maybe they deliberately did that so they could start on the other side

just try making random gear on ur own for your own builds

and if ur too broke in game to do it that isn't a problem

just do it online for free

https://www.craftofexile.com/

practice in the emulator there

infinite currency simulator

[hexed mountain]

need to see what they change on architect , vaal skills league maybe...

[sleek barn]

i think funny thing to craft as a beginner is a +2 minion wand

theres not much to it

just four fossils and a dream

[tranquil sedge]

its definitely a funny item to make yea 😄

[pliant hamlet]

you playing phrecia?

[wheat sinew]

probs but trade

might do like 1 week or smth

[finite quail]

I'm gonna play the FUCK out of phrecia

[wheat sinew]

hbu

[pliant hamlet]

I'm debating between trade and ssf

[finite quail]

God I hope they add it to private leagues this time

But like, keep it

[tranquil sedge]

in phrecia?

[wheat sinew]

icl I might even skip it

[finite quail]

trade

[wheat sinew]

cuz got some irl stuff

[tranquil sedge]

unless ur an ssf junkie, if you're planning to play phrecia, just go trade

[finite quail]

idols in ssf are aids

[wheat sinew]

[hexed mountain]

skipping SSF for once just because of the herald ring , i dont want to get turbo RNGed

since its short

[tranquil sedge]

its so short ^

[pliant hamlet]

herald ring felt super farmable

[tranquil sedge]

thats why

[steady elk]

dope ty

[wheat sinew]

we got so lucky

[steady elk]

i love third party tools

[hexed mountain]

ofc , i farmed it in SSF keepers

[wheat sinew]

someone did 500 runs, they got 5 complete sets

[pliant hamlet]

I've farmed like...6 herald rings?

[tranquil sedge]

i can't tell if thats sarcasm lmao

[steady elk]

im a eve online refugee and we loved our tools

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[hexed mountain]

but in a 3 weeks league

[wheat sinew]

[tranquil sedge]

definitely not sarcasm then

[pliant hamlet]

wtf

[hexed mountain]

you could very well get trolled by rng

[pliant hamlet]

500 is insane lol

[tranquil sedge]

that explains enjoying poe then

[pliant hamlet]

Are one of the rings super rare?

[hexed mountain]

nah

[wheat sinew]

tul

that's about it

[pliant hamlet]

yeah tul did feel rare

[hexed mountain]

its pure rng

[pliant hamlet]

I think I have 10 of each ring atm in our gsf

and 0 tuls

[wheat sinew]

yeee but it's weird that everyone just has a shortage of tul aint it

xd

[steady elk]

every man needs their autism project

[hexed mountain]

didnt feel like one was more rare

[pliant hamlet]

Tul 100% was more rare for us

I was our boss runner

[steady elk]

that PC we discussed me buying was actually funded by selling my eve account

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-mew-gif-27685962

[tranquil sedge]

craft of exile has 3 main sections as far as most people are concerned

• calculator to see odds of any particular crafting step/outcome
• emulator to emulate crafting for fun
• simulator to set up a crafting process and see all the outcomes and success rates

[split maple]

if you ask newbs in 773 chaos ring doesnt exist

[wheat sinew]

I also ran breach like an insane person for my xoph jewel

[hard cliff]

Holy shit

[wheat sinew]

xdddd

[hexed mountain]

i stopped doing the glands after having 2 of each in case i wanted a build with them + a scourge ring so 3 of each

[pliant hamlet]

haha yeah you did

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[steady elk]

well i didn't sell my eve acc directly just the currency i had stacked up

but ye

[pliant hamlet]

A lot of people wanted the ring for leveling alts in the gsf

it's a very good 42-70 ring tbf

[hexed mountain]

yeah in group

[tranquil sedge]

(dont do that in poe though)

(rmt is a no-no)

[hexed mountain]

in SSF i just yoinked it

[pliant hamlet]

yeah fair

I was farming grey wind

I wanted a perfect one

I ended up getting 2 and then irl happened and had to take a break lol

[split maple]

cba to run glands just for double corrupts

[hexed mountain]

got abysmall RNG for the penance helm this league sadly

[split maple]

corrupted 2, didnt hit shit and stoped bothering

[pliant hamlet]

I had bonkers rng for penance helm lol

[hexed mountain]

ended up making a dominating blow helm by pure rng and just decided to keep it

[steady elk]

RMT's a no no in almost every game but don't worry i only did that because i got sick of the game and the devs screwing me over and would rather the money than logging in pissed all the time

[wheat sinew]

bro did it in like 10 divines

xd

[ocean field]

how to enter increase damage taken by enemies in pob

[sleek barn]

what the hell is a dom blow helm

[ocean field]

in config

[hexed mountain]

like +3 attack crit 25 immolate 30% more ele minion damage and +4 levels

[wheat sinew]

iksy I still haven't finished my sword

[pliant hamlet]

F

[sleek barn]

oh is traditional dom blow elemental damage

thats interesting

[split maple]

i spent grant total of 5 essences on mine, but settled on t2 crit 😛

[tranquil sedge]

i feel less strongly about it in games where the devs let you 'officially' use real money for progress
so i don't think of doing it in games like eve or runescape the way i would consider it if someone did it in poe

[pliant hamlet]

I'ma have less time this league, I probably should just play trade

[hexed mountain]

you can turn it elemental with the gloves

[ocean field]

gng how to enter increase damage taken by enemies in pob in config

[hexed mountain]

its just that level 25 immolate is a LOT of flat

[sleek barn]

true

i do think that i should've went hit based

[pulsar dune]

Dual strike grey wind ignite behemoth

[steady elk]

is it even a thing in poe?

[sleek barn]

oh well

[sleek barn]

no poe is strictly free to play

you get qol from paying though

so ig its not

[wheat sinew]

@pliant hamlet join trade for phrecia for a fun short time

[sleek barn]

its debateable

[wheat sinew]

also gonna look at this screenshot and cry every time

[tranquil sedge]

storage space is paid for but technically you can play the whole game without paying

[pliant hamlet]

It's a $20-$50 game with an amazing f2p trial

[tranquil sedge]

so i prefer thinking of it personally as free-to-try-until-you-buy

^ yea except its more like $30 to start imo

[pliant hamlet]

I don't really think the game is enjoyable before you pick up a $30 pack and the first blood pack

[tranquil sedge]

like campaign for certain requires zero commitment

[sleek barn]

tbf acts 1-10 are great

[tranquil sedge]

and that takes like 10-20h or more for a new player

if ur still interested in poe after that its just paying the price of the game

and if not well u didnt spend anything

[ocean field]

@tranquil sedge

[pliant hamlet]

I don't think any newbie has ever beat campaign in 10h tbh lol

[sleek barn]

its a good trial

[tranquil sedge]

lemme check

[sleek barn]

i prefer it to warframe or destiny

[pliant hamlet]

It's more like 20h to 40h

[steady elk]

im currently holding off on buying any points till next league's packs come out

[pliant hamlet]

sometimes more

Which blew my mind when I started seeing the newbie reddit posts. One a couple days ago was 61h in act 7 or 8

[tranquil sedge]

ye probably not

[tranquil sedge]

if they're still playing after that long with that little progress

safe bet they probably like the game lmao

[pliant hamlet]

haha yeah

[tranquil sedge]

which is funny in its own way

[pliant hamlet]

Tbf, I get it - I've got 80hs in grim dawn and I never got past act 1

testing shit out, modding, tweaking stuff, fucking around with friends in disco, etc

[steady elk]

crazy

my second character i finished the acts in 18 hours

[tranquil sedge]

@split maple any idea

i forget how to do this

[tranquil sedge]

im delaying trying it until they release fangs of asterkarn

gonna play it after that

and delaying last epoch for a couple years at least

[pliant hamlet]

watching LE go from overwhelmingly positive to mostly negative hurts to see

[tranquil sedge]

and titan quest 2 is a no no until it leaves early access and even after depends on content release timeline

[split maple]

this should work, no?

[tranquil sedge]

ye its unfortunate but they kinda did it to themselves

yea that works i guess

[pliant hamlet]

I wonder if they have any say or it's a publisher thing or the studio's struggling or something idk

[tranquil sedge]

@ocean field try that

[wheat sinew]

@pliant hamlet

IT HAPPENED

[ocean field]

ah thanks

[pliant hamlet]

LFG

[tranquil sedge]

msoz again?

wait you hit +1 charge too

nice

[wheat sinew]

yea tried to do the most stacked msoz I could ever had

and well did it xd

[stoic horizon]

first time i played i reached act 5 in a week and quit cuz i couldnt progress

[split maple]

yo slap a pob there

[stoic horizon]

i played with an unlinked lightning tendrills

[wheat sinew]

it's really shit

xddd

[pliant hamlet]

I don't remember what my first act clear was. Probably zombies

[tranquil sedge]

now foulborn exalt slam a t1 strength

and ur giga gaming

[wheat sinew]

bet

[tranquil sedge]

that would almost be mirror tier right

if u actually hit t1 str

[stoic horizon]

and first time i finished campaign was on BV + cyclone (old) chieftain and i couldnt do maps

[tranquil sedge]

or is t1 aps required for that on that particular type of sword

[steady elk]

real af

[pliant hamlet]

nah, mirror tier str stackers use synth

[pliant hamlet]

kekw

[steady elk]

my first character i quit from burnout after i hit mapping because tbqh i didn't know what i was doing

[wheat sinew]

ya know

[tranquil sedge]

true but he's in gsf so as close i suppose as reasonable

[wheat sinew]

can prefix lock into speed aug no

[pliant hamlet]

I think I quit my first character in ruthless act 1 or merc act 2 idr

[tranquil sedge]

risk endurance charges that way

[pulsar dune]

Influenced

[tranquil sedge]

nvm

[wheat sinew]

true

fuck

I guess I just cry with it

[tranquil sedge]

wheres the believer ex slam

vision crafting or bust

-# or a veiled exalt if ur bent on gambling the +1 endurance

[wheat sinew]

can't

pen is veil

[pliant hamlet]

took me a sec to find it

this is the mirror str stacker sword

[tranquil sedge]

i had that same one in 3.26 😄

that was such a good feeling upgrade

[pliant hamlet]

no lgoh?

[tranquil sedge]

oh i misread urs

[pliant hamlet]

Where did you get lgoh from?

watchers?

[hexed mountain]

ahah look at this noob he got ele damage with chaos pen and spell damage on a sword

[tranquil sedge]

i dont think there was an lgoh one in 3.26

it was either this or one where the endurance charges was something else, i forget

[pliant hamlet]

ouch

[pulsar dune]

What would a non-osin one look like

[tranquil sedge]

i ended up f/f gore dancer for 30% instant life leech instead

[pliant hamlet]

The one sokra has

You wouldn't go synth for non-osin

[split maple]

explodeys instead of fire dmg implicit would kinda slap

[tranquil sedge]

yep

and a couple of my jewels had 2 mana on hit i think

it wasn't a very great solution but it kinda worked

so i went with it

[pliant hamlet]

isn't explody phys dmg?

[pulsar dune]

Explodeys would get deleted by replica alberons

[pliant hamlet]

yea

[tranquil sedge]

watcher's eye ye

[pulsar dune]

And if you convert them you still have no inc

[split maple]

oh fuck it would yea

[wheat sinew]

xddd

[split maple]

secondary dmg is still dmg -.-

[tranquil sedge]

??

[pliant hamlet]

lol

[tranquil sedge]

what client do u play on

and how do i get a copy

[wheat sinew]

european

[pliant hamlet]

My man only has good luck

or bad luck

Nothing in between

[tranquil sedge]

i didnt realize that

[pliant hamlet]

Hey sokra, How many jewels did you make again to hit the 1/3?

[tranquil sedge]

then why were people mirroring explode swords

[pliant hamlet]

osin I assume?

[wheat sinew]

to compensate

[tranquil sedge]

but osin only converts ele damage to chaos

[wheat sinew]

lemme send my shitty pob

xddd

cuz my helical is int + res

[pliant hamlet]

hmm, Not sure then different build?