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spice pecan
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here's a hot take

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they can keep the walls, but the walls can only spawn within like 5-6m of the origin of the breach

pseudo axle
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clusters/auras/animate guardian setup/spectre setup/necromatic aegis shenanigans/curse botting @hard cliff

spice pecan
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keep walls in the 24wave since they added the option to remove those

pseudo axle
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here's my hot take

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mr wilson, tear down this wall

spice pecan
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mr wilson is not the governator of cataconia anymore

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sadly

pseudo axle
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he is in my heart

true falcon
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Add a 10 point atlas tree with only league blocking nodes

pseudo axle
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I want a league where you just outright craft your own skill tree

pseudo axle
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I was there when the spectre memes were written

true falcon
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Spectres the reason I'll never play minions lol

pseudo axle
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they got better

true falcon
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Too much choice

pseudo axle
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back in my day we spent 20 divines on our animate guardian setup, only for chris wilson to descend from on high to personally shoot them in the head

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and we thanked him for it

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you youngsters these days don't understand the pain we went through

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we crawled on glass so you could have "aggressive minions"

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your zombies should damn well stand behind you as you get shotgunned by baran mobs as god intended

hard cliff
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@pseudo axle

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do you wanna see what I've invented ?

pseudo axle
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is it an animate weapon setup

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I need one for next league

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either that or I finally go ranged starter idk

cosmic reef
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guys does anyone happen to have a pob handy that shows the best way to go all in on scaling poison damage trying to learn how ailment dot works

pseudo axle
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but in general you want the DoT/Poison wiki pages to learn from

thick goblet
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also generally don't consider PA for poison

cosmic reef
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pob

fickle glen
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Hey is it random for crafting recipes to spawn in campaign locations?

lean urchin
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no, if you have them it wont show up

hard cliff
lean urchin
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100% spawn rate

fickle glen
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Ok ty

pseudo axle
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I should look at it more

hard cliff
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hopefully will be buffed

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How tf do I get a 4g on an armor/es build ?

sleek barn
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jewelers method

hard cliff
sleek barn
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4 off color will just take some time

hard cliff
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If anyone has a better poison suggestion let me know

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Archdemon crown on Herald of Purity could be goals

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or some other kind of 5 or 6 link item

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Would this even do any damage

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😩

pseudo axle
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damnation seems absurdly good if we can do certain shenanigans with ahns or certain aul items

hard cliff
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it's free regen

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lol

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might as well take this to complete it

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38% damage recoup from everything but chaos

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get corrupted soul somewhere and it'll be smchooovin

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yeah buddy

pseudo axle
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oh not damnation, the other one

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wait the image on the wiki is wrong

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look at it

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I was thinking of ahn's shenanigans with this take on the node, which is the same as the ability on the eternal damnation amulet

hard cliff
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wow

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That;'s crazy

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wtf is this

pseudo axle
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idk

hard cliff
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where did you get this

pseudo axle
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the wiki

hard cliff
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is this in the game ?

pseudo axle
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idk man

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phrecia had some things changed that weren't well documented

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wait for patch notes

hard cliff
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So true

limpid prairie
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Does cannot be leech from
Stop on hit health?

lean urchin
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no

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on hit is not leech

hard cliff
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Is their a physical channeling skill that's not cyclone ?

rancid peak
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If you want to go Herald, you kinda have to go Golems as well to bypass the no Aura thing

hexed mountain
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divine ire and stormburst

rancid peak
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Do Herald KBoC, grab the Golem Flesh/Flame and you're gucci

hexed mountain
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just grab the golem flesh flame in an event

rancid peak
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🤣

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didnt say itd be easy

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Will be like 1.5 - 2 Mirrors as well

hexed mountain
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we aiming for that 30 div performance at 2 mirrors pricepoint

gritty garnet
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too bad you can't get +5 gem level to the new herald from breach unique ring

rancid peak
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You don't NEED the Golem FF combo though, just more QoL.

elfin shale
heady cliff
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patch notes when

elfin shale
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Is there an implciit or something that can give me blind chance

surreal musk
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easiest is 1 dex tattoo if your using an attack

gritty garnet
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have parents with congenital eye problems

elfin shale
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Oh yeah that works

gritty garnet
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there's also a cluster with it on kill (smoke clouds)

elfin shale
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nah tattoo is perfect

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Body armour defence is doubled doesnt work with Foulborn Perfect Form right

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this one

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My brain is telling me yes but i think thats because similar stuff worked in poe2

gritty garnet
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no, it's always the tooltip amount

sage falcon
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since when did similar stuff work in poe2

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that stuff never works

dreamy charm
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t17s were a mistake i cant do them in ssf w/o bisection scarabs

rich widget
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how do you even farm flesh and flame

sleek barn
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bossing

upper shell
elfin shale
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Ubers if you want the hidden nodes

upper shell
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qn: how does flash and flame work for alt-ascendency leagues like the one coming up, do they still give passives for the OG ascendencies?

thick goblet
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yeah

rancid peak
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unless they change it this time

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Thats why they were so expensive last time

proud gorge
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yeah, really raises the values of FFs in phrecia

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though I guess this time with it only being 3 weeks, it'll have less time to really inflate in price

elfin shale
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hmm

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maybe ill run Phys DoT Bog Witch

upper shell
rancid peak
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I can see 3.28 being pushed to March tbh

crisp obsidian
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Wdym pushed

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It's already march release no?

rancid peak
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Was meant to be Feb no?

main osprey
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early march for sure

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or very end of feb

rancid peak
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Wait no, poe2 was pushed forward right?

crisp obsidian
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Timeline post said march

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🤷

rancid peak
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Its supposed to be every 1.5-2 months that they alternate the games league releases. But I remembered they pushed 0.4 up

undone gazelle
rancid peak
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Shouldnt be another 1:3 unless its end of year. As you said it was pushed up because of the holidays. Christmas break here is like 2-4 weeks

steel light
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this game is so confusing for me, i don't get how ff/ff aspect of carnage (+40% damage dealt, you take +10% damage) gives so much more damage to firestorm (+1.7m) than 2 base jewels combining to 11% spell damage, 16% spell damage when holding shield, 29% fire damage

rancid peak
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Complete luck

hard cliff
crisp obsidian
umbral crag
opaque sphinx
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what is the hardest/tankiest u can juice a map

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is just like 100% deli titanic blight in t17?

onyx adder
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If u just want to test ur character thats still way less than a lot of valdos

opaque sphinx
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yeah basically all i want

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guess we find valdo

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damn why nobody got a list of hardest valdo maps

surreal musk
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10% less damage per equipped item ghosted 100% deli feared

opaque sphinx
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that first mod is dumb

onyx adder
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U asked for hardest sir

opaque sphinx
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i mean fair

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i wanna test the build tho not the build -1 item

onyx adder
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Well u can do that

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Just deal 100% less damage whats the issue

spare ore
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does sirus still bug out in valdo maps or did they fix that

opaque sphinx
wintry lily
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its sirus, expect it to bug out

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even when fixed

opaque sphinx
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i genuinely don't know what 1 item i could remove

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maybe helmet?

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i only lose half my hp pool

onyx adder
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Boots are usually the lowest value slot

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Ur just miserable

opaque sphinx
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int acc stacker sad

heady cliff
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ghosted deli feared is enough on their own

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hm, did they remove atziri from there too?

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might be easier now

opaque sphinx
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my boots are majority of my dmg lol

onyx adder
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Stackers hate removing any item

opaque sphinx
spare ore
onyx adder
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Just do an easier valdos

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I agree

opaque sphinx
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fk

heady cliff
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F, zdifficulty feared now:(

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atziri instanuke was "fun"

dreamy charm
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was there an idol combo that dropped alot of scarabs and idols last phricia

finite quail
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replaced by sirus and one of the memory bosses

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the big vagina boss

opaque sphinx
pseudo axle
opaque sphinx
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im iffy on our tankiness

pseudo axle
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these feared aren't their uber versions, right

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ivory tower is only like 3c

hard cliff
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Your Raised Zombies count as corpses

How do I take this and still use offerings ?

pseudo axle
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or is the foil one specifically a lot of money

hard cliff
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Just aim away from them lol

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????????

drowsy eagle
spare ore
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but no they aren't uber versions

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at least i dont think

silent leaf
soft perch
elfin shale
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So how exactly does Sacrifice of Blood work with Coward's Chains

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Do you no longer regenerate life because its always going into Blood Barrier?

spare ore
strong totem
halcyon prawn
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phrecia feels kinda short

granite nexus
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i need patch notes

halcyon prawn
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but we'll get 3.28 soon after i guess

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imagine they add poe2 temple to poe1 lol, incursion 2.0 like how they did breach 2.0

potent horizon
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That would be nice honestly

halcyon prawn
potent bramble
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I have found a question for which I don't see an answer in the Wiki... when you use Minion Instability, minions explode when they reach low life. Does that count as dying? Or is that treated more like an attack followed immediately by despawning

hexed mountain
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Dying

proud gorge
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I mean, easy enough to check by taking the "minions restore health when a minion dies" mastery

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but it's probably death

opaque sphinx
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im just testing the build

timber turret
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@sage falcon im about to shit post

proud gorge
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turns out this Sabo build is decently high budget to even start

opaque sphinx
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how

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its a pcharge stacker

proud gorge
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you need around 3-4 div to even start the build, even if you buy the cheapest version of everything

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it's not really

tight plinth
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3-4 div is high budget?

timber turret
opaque sphinx
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yeah i consider that leaguestart

proud gorge
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to start the build at all yeah

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most builds cost, like, 20c to make the build function at a basic level

opaque sphinx
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¿

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idk what most builds u find

potent bramble
proud gorge
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that's most builds

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Whispers of Infinity is pretty cheap this league

tight plinth
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i dont want to play the builds you find

opaque sphinx
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yeah idk most builds start at 10-15d

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leaguestarts are before that

proud gorge
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yeah, not at all even vaguely true

opaque sphinx
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can u show me these most builds

proud gorge
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unless you consider "start" to be "already pretty funded"

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to me "start" means "has basic functionality and works at all"

opaque sphinx
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yes generally u use a leaguestarter till u make 10-15d then u make a real build

proud gorge
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lmao

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what a sad way to play

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play the actual build

opaque sphinx
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brother that is the meta

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that is how the vast majority of people play

proud gorge
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no it's very much not?

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most people level with their build

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only a very small subset of people even play "levelling builds"

opaque sphinx
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no, they don't

proud gorge
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let alone on leaguestart

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they very much do

opaque sphinx
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there's a reason day 1 the majority of people are on the same skills on the same builds

proud gorge
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please pull your head out of your ass

opaque sphinx
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brother u keep thinking ur personal experience is the majority

proud gorge
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there's a reason why the people who are at the top of the rankings on poe.ninja on day 1 are playing the same builds

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yes

opaque sphinx
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....

proud gorge
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please consider that the vast majority of players wouldn't appear on poe.ninja on day 1

opaque sphinx
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yeah the top 1%

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is 2%

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29%

hexed mountain
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Also most pmayers cant make a build so they copy their streamer.

proud gorge
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there's a reason why most build guides you see include a levelling tree for levelling as the build

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because turns out people like levelling as the build, and don't like respeccing their entire character

potent bramble
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Good news y'all, I can confirm that MI seems to count as a death... which means I might just be cookin' with gas

tight plinth
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it doesnt?

opaque sphinx
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the vast majority of builds say "level as the usual slams/arma brand/mines/rolling magmba till u can swap"

proud gorge
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where are you getting your builds

opaque sphinx
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where are YOU

proud gorge
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I've seen that only once, with a build that cannot exist without specific uniques

tight plinth
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?

proud gorge
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that are uber drops or something

onyx adder
hexed mountain
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Depends on builds. Some just cant be used in the campain or some require a level 28 or 38 gem

proud gorge
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most build guides you see, particularly ones meant for more casual players, include a full levelling tree because most people like actually playing the build, not levelling as a levelling build and then swapping at high level

onyx adder
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I would imagine minions not dying when they explode would be highly confusing, not least to the minion

proud gorge
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or, like, not even high level

potent bramble
onyx adder
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However if u instant kill a minion through oversummoning or other method it wont explode

tight plinth
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explodes am i dead?

opaque sphinx
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most people enjoy succeeding and to do so they generally play a leaguestarter then swap

hexed mountain
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Most people dont reach red maps kek

proud gorge
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Kira, again, please consider people outside of the bubble you have found yourself in

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I'm sure that's true for a very specific subset of people

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but that's not even close to "most people"

opaque sphinx
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brother u can keep saying this all u want but u have literally 0 stats to back up ur opinion

proud gorge
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and neither do you?

hexed mountain
opaque sphinx
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and yet im not calling u out of touch or saying u have ur head uo ur ass am i

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thats you

onyx adder
hexed mountain
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The vast majority of player barely graze endgame

onyx adder
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Largely unsuccessfully

opaque sphinx
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those are statements u can make when u have the data to back up what u say

opaque sphinx
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????

proud gorge
elfin spire
opaque sphinx
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because thats the same as saying u have ur head up ur ass

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totally

proud gorge
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sure

hexed mountain
umbral crag
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@opaque sphinx https://pobb.in/EwrNQ_n22T6s i just need another 3-4mirror to upgrade to this kek

proud gorge
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point being, a few div to start a build is pretty high budget for the floor of a build

potent bramble
# tight plinth how did you test it?

Same way WKZ suggested - the minion mastery. Grabbed a Tavukai, summoned a couple SRS, watched their health bars tick up slightly each time one exploded

opaque sphinx
proud gorge
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most builds function on less than 50c

hard cliff
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@proud gorge @opaque sphinx

opaque sphinx
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gimme ur jewels and claws and grafts im jealous PepeHands

potent bramble
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Presumably would be easier to see the bar with a more refined test, but it was good enough for me to see that it happened. I don't really care if they get the 5% health back, I want them to die... but I want the death to count as a death for other effects

onyx adder
proud gorge
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builds that don't function at all without a decent investment are pretty uncommon, and are usually characterized by every single instance of the build, including the level 88 characters, having decently expensive items

onyx adder
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But yes it works

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
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ah u fucker

tight plinth
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jiquani anything aristocrat exaltThink

opaque sphinx
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still thats hot

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oh shit i forgot i was testing build on a valdo

proud gorge
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since normally instances of a build on poe.ninja that are, like, level 86 or whatever, are generally pretty low budget "levelling" versions of the build

opaque sphinx
umbral crag
opaque sphinx
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ah fair lmfao i thought u meant from that point 😂

proud gorge
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so if even the level 86 version is rocking 1+ div jewels and items, it's decently high budget to start

opaque sphinx
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im over it buddy lets just agree to disagree

umbral crag
potent bramble
proud gorge
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there's a few of these on ladder, I call 'em Mageblood Builds, because while it's not always the case, many such builds depend on Mageblood to even exist

potent bramble
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Or would you just get the 30% as the higher of the two mods

tight plinth
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confirmed by viper

onyx adder
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Eh what

elfin shale
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yeah no for some reason they stack into one caustic ground

elfin spire
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Finally got to simulacrum... Well, I got cooked at wave 7, but I did got there.
UHM

tight plinth
onyx adder
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I mean ppl would have tested it last phrecia so i guess i believe u

fickle glen
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How much total recovery per second from leech should I have for 2400 life?

opaque sphinx
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aiight so the quad ghosted does have mobs that can kill us this is new

potent bramble
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chaosthinking There's no way I'm the first person to be considering this, then...

tight plinth
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you arent, i pobed one yesterday lol

opaque sphinx
tight plinth
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well not using minion instability to kill minions

potent bramble
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What'd you build around, Caasi?

opaque sphinx
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secret weapon of quad ghosted feared
sirus still doesn't render in

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o7

proud gorge
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I believe an enemy can only be affected by Caustic Ground once though

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like most X grounds

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so it'd just apply whatever the strongest caustic ground DoT is

opaque sphinx
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also bowling alley

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nvm build still bad

tight plinth
opaque sphinx
strong totem
opaque sphinx
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im still mad at whoever at ggg decided bowling alley belonged anywhere besides sirus arena

proud gorge
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the other issue with Caustic Ground is just that it loses you out on the incredibly overpowered Alchemist's Mark

strong totem
proud gorge
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but then again only really Mamba can really take advantage of the full power of Alchemist's Mark

opaque sphinx
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wait the map had 4 extra mods i didnt even look waht they were

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fuck me

potent bramble
# tight plinth the siegebreaker + puppeteer node, i was using zombie of falling

Ah, different idea then - at least a little bit. I wanted to do long-term zombies w/ Baron and strength stacking for life leech and high health, get 100% strength-for-minions and then use that to scale life (at least somewhat) for both zombies and SRS. Tavukai to kill the SRS and then MI + Putrid Consription to turn the SRS into what essentially amounts to heat-seeking missiles

opaque sphinx
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it coulda been super hard or normal

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shit do i have to buy another to test

tight plinth
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thats a lot of things to scale, its popcorn srs with zombies with caustic ground?

proud gorge
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wouldn't the issue just be that SRS base HP isn't very high?

hard cliff
tight plinth
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i just scaled the bajezus out of minion life and called it a day kek

opaque sphinx
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im autistic my existence is uncomfortable

proud gorge
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I guess strength for minions gives them more base HP, but does that compare well to their base minion HP?

fickle glen
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I hate how only when I lock in, my game starts disconnecting

proud gorge
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no idea

tight plinth
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hi autistic my existence is uncomfortable, im caasi

tight plinth
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pira, have you cooked something up?

potent bramble
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It's mostly just scaling strength, minion life, and minion damage. I have zero idea if it's even remotely viable, but I thought it was an interesting idea to look at

opaque sphinx
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🤣

tight plinth
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im still looking for ideas

rancid peak
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Just give us the Patch notes bro 😭

opaque sphinx
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just play ID harbi

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2c clap the game

tight plinth
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my idea with the strength node is, give AG strength, slap on replica alberons on him

rancid peak
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Als, can't wait for my 200 essence a map strat again 🔥

tight plinth
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let him go ham

opaque sphinx
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ok maybe like 40-80c depends vixen price

tight plinth
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ID?

hard cliff
tight plinth
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pardon me, im dumb with acronyms

opaque sphinx
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impending doom with foulborn doedre scorn

tight plinth
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oh that

opaque sphinx
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harbinger asc has giga CDR and aoe

opaque sphinx
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scales it hard

tight plinth
potent bramble
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Belt, Amulet, Helmet, ascendency and ~1/3rd of the skill points puts the total life pool for SRS of Enormity at a bit over 20k, with 4k ES (which doesn't really matter for the SRS)

hard cliff
# tight plinth hoag?

yeah minion herald

it's a thing in 3.27 or at least it exists played by a brave few

opaque sphinx
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my friend played it this league

potent bramble
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Which is... not really great, but also obviously not done. It's only at 73 STR right now, after all 😄

hard cliff
elfin shale
tight plinth
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i have a "deep" delver friend who played it this league

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i think he went down to 700ish depth

hard cliff
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I think

opaque sphinx
hard cliff
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maximum over herald

opaque sphinx
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he only played it at high budget tho

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so cant say how good it was on cheap

tight plinth
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oh its only 25% more, thats boring

thick goblet
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holy

hard cliff
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this looks awesome

tight plinth
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112 life Pogott

opaque sphinx
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im not sure if he virulence capped it in pob and fully configged

elfin shale
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hmm there's no way to cheat Removes All Energy Shield huh

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that sucks

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-5% max res

tight plinth
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whatchu cooking?

opaque sphinx
elfin shale
tight plinth
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ive cooked and scrapped a dozen builds since announcement

elfin shale
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Gonna play Siphoning Trap i need the regen Pogott

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Cluster Traps Support and Multiple Traps Support do not benefit Siphoning Trap as only one use of the skill is stored at a time. The reduced damage from the support gems is still inherited, however. Despite that, it is possible to have multiple instances of the skill active, as long as they don't tether to the same target. If that happens, the oldest skill instance will be immediately terminated.

?????? Why the fuck would they instantly explode

tight plinth
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i was pobing one last night lmao, then i put in vortex and its just a lot more damage kek

proud gorge
opaque sphinx
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mahuxotl

elfin shale
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Bog Shaman

proud gorge
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but you can sort of cheat removes all energy shield, by just having some sort of overshield that's not energy shield

elfin shale
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not mahuxotl

proud gorge
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ah yeah, bog shaman

elfin shale
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Thinking of doing Bog Shaman + Sacrifice of Blood but no Everlasting Sacrifice 😔

heady cliff
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some are still playable though

proud gorge
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but yeah, no way to use real energy shield for something while taking the energy shield to life node

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unsurprisingly

tight plinth
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remove energy shield wins over foulborn ghostwrithe mod?

proud gorge
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probably, but those are both "set max energy shield to x" effects

crimson spear
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If removing all energy shield is your goal, couldn't you just run Eldritch Battery?

tight plinth
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thats the downside

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he wants to have es

proud gorge
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nah the point is that Bog Shaman automatically removes all energy shield, their goal is to use Everlasting Sacrifice for max res

crimson spear
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o

heady cliff
proud gorge
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but everlasting sacrifice requires it to be possible to fill your energy shield

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and you can't fill 0 max energy shield

hard cliff
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just use ward

proud gorge
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hmm, it's probably a bad idea to try to do Lab1 at level 25 with 577 energy shield and like no life

elfin shale
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just lock in

tight plinth
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what phrecia ascendacy would be good for a cold dot? chrisThinking

proud gorge
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but let's do it anyways

elfin shale
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Its the only option that has anything that specifically buffs DoTs iirc

proud gorge
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nah just play the Vaal ascendancy with Vaal Cold Snap

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that's a cold DoT

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I think

tight plinth
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the dot node is locked behind a stupid node that does nothing for me 😭

hard cliff
elfin shale
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Chaos Bloodline + Architect is looking to be really good but i have a feeling theyre gonna change Architect a lot cuz they have a TON of overlap

proud gorge
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oh yeah, that's a good point, you should be able to take the vaal ascendancy and the vaal bloodline

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which seems, uh, silly

elfin shale
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70% reduced soul gain prevention duration lol

proud gorge
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in the same way, I wonder what'll happen with Bog Shaman plus Unlight Silhouette

tight plinth
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oh yeah munin, what happened with your TR?

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that seemed like a good idea for bog shaman

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just dont go sanguine power and go CI instead

proud gorge
#

Unlight Silhouette gives skills a base life cost equal to its mana cost, and added chaos damage equal to 20% of the life cost. Bog Shaman gives skills a base life cost equal to 25% of the mana cost, and added chaos damage equal to 80% of the life cost.

opaque sphinx
#

damnit i was thinking ward stack looper but the aul node downside kills it

proud gorge
#

This suggests that if you take both those nodes, you get a base life cost equal to 125% of the base mana cost, and added chaos damage equal to 100% of that life cost

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which seems, uh, busted

elfin shale
tight plinth
#

silly shit do be fun

steel light
#

1st map after i go out, every single fucking time

tight plinth
#

i swear those fckers are in on it

proud gorge
#

both Unlight Silhouette and Bog Shaman are designed to give added chaos damage equal to 20% of mana cost

opaque sphinx
#

wow neat

#

can i has the numbers pls

proud gorge
#

so what if instead you had over 6 times as much added flat chaos

opaque sphinx
#

nvm found it im a 4head

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👀

#

holup

steel light
#

x3

opaque sphinx
#

we can easily get like 25k ward too

#

godamnit

#

there goes my next few hours

tight plinth
#

pausechamp

hexed mountain
#

Unlight silhouette isnt worth taking even if you do bog shaman

#

Value is too low

proud gorge
#

the main value is giving you way higher base life cost

hexed mountain
#

Lifetap gem

stray sedge
#

do mine builds get better aoe or traps for spells?

opaque sphinx
stray sedge
#

thinking of trying something dumb lol

opaque sphinx
hexed mountain
#

You just convert entirely to life cost anyway

#

So its a node for 20%

proud gorge
#

plus the extra 20% life cost to damage isn't bad

#

it's 25% increased, starting from the 80% of bog shaman

hexed mountain
#

Not good enough for 2 points. Of asc imo

proud gorge
#

25% increased base damage isn't bad

hard cliff
proud gorge
#

but yeah, things are definitely going to get weird with regards to Phrecia Ascendancies interacting with the Bloodlines that are designed to replicate them

#

either there's going to be some significant changes, or things are going to get funky

heady cliff
#

PATCH NOTES WHEN

tight plinth
#

soon

#

TM

#

cant wait to make and scrap a hundred builds when patch comes

hexed mountain
#

They probably rework the phrecia nodes which were basically test runs for bloodlines

elfin shale
opaque sphinx
#

nightgrip would kill it

#

wait no

#

i misremembered it

#

its 100% de

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kinda mid

elfin shale
#

not worth then

opaque sphinx
#

u cant link supports to it either

#

hmmge

#

i wonder if 75k base dmg is even worth doing then

proud gorge
#

oh man, I forgot about the biggest issue with low life ES builds like this one

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not being able to see in indoor maps

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they should really give Coruscating Elixir the line "Light Radius is based on ES instead of Life"

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or something like that

tight plinth
opaque sphinx
hard cliff
tight plinth
opaque sphinx
#

did anybody play antiq last time

tall belfry
#

Wen notes

opaque sphinx
#

can u stack this with the ascend node

tall belfry
tall belfry
opaque sphinx
#

inc 30k ward

crisp plinth
#

Antiquarian flicker was fun

tall belfry
#

I had a great time with quintuple herald chaos convert bv

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Though I found out much later that I would have been better just stacking virulence to the moon

proud gorge
#

also apparently this build takes only one Energy Shield wheel

cosmic reef
#

going to farm oni-goroshi on scion, and then build a tainted pact looper

proud gorge
#

so I can only take one ES mastery, and apparently it's recommended to be 2% ES regen

heady cliff
proud gorge
#

though I guess that could theoretically be light radius instead

heady cliff
#

and 4 voices

proud gorge
#

side note, it is wild that somehow this build that takes all of two points into one ES wheel somehow is rocking 10-12k ES

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well I say "somehow" but it's because of intelligence

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but you'd think it'd spend the three points to get a second ES wheel

elfin shale
#

So if you have a mine detonation chain with an Aura, they slowly lose aura effect as they det chain goes off right?

#

Or does it snapshot the auras

#

Is the only way to "reserve" ES to avoid getting to full Divine Shield/Ghost Dance?

gritty garnet
#

why would you want to do that

tight plinth
#

is the phrecia ascendancy jewels still in pob?

opaque sphinx
#

XD

#

20k ward 4 items

tight plinth
#

how are you planning on breaking and rebreaking the ward? exaltThink

umbral crag
#

Throwing budget out the window in this pob LOL

stuck brook
#

geez, leave some dps for the rest of us

opaque sphinx
umbral crag
#

You're right

opaque sphinx
#

thats disgusting tho

stuck brook
#

i'm fairly sure all the builds i made and played in the last 30 leagues wouldnt add up to that dps

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
opaque sphinx
#

if u use ynda does global def double dip for ward is that how that works

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

probably lmao

hard cliff
#

what's the point of playing a summoner in phrecia when necromancer exists

opaque sphinx
#

if u use faithguard then global def and max es are the same thing

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XDDD

wicked dragon
opaque sphinx
#

its mostly his

#

with some aspirational items

tall belfry
umbral crag
dark iris
#

Hello Boys and Girls, when start the new league ?

umbral crag
#

Was messing around and somehow got crazier and crazier

thick goblet
split maple
finite quail
#

terrible build

opaque sphinx
finite quail
#

rip ur ward

thick goblet
umbral crag
#

https://pobb.in/G8QecqfkY6_6

we're so close @opaque sphinx @split maple

opaque sphinx
#

120k base dmg spell pretty gud

thick goblet
opaque sphinx
umbral crag
opaque sphinx
gritty garnet
#

add in mercenaries

opaque sphinx
#

antiq has 100% faster restore thats about it kek

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

if we scale enough aoe ideally we just one shot the whole screen when we get hit

split maple
spice pecan
#

can i have 700 million more damage for free

umbral crag
#

Where am i gonna fit in 4 elder kek gonna have to be funny with mb or some shit

opaque sphinx
split maple
#

needs elder mageblood, boots, helmet and idk

#

chest?

opaque sphinx
#

u will lose half ur ehp

#

but if u want dmg u got it

umbral crag
split maple
#

okay your abyssal can have 3 more mods

opaque sphinx
#

i put on a shitty 1k es regalia for a sec and my es went from 17.6 to 24k 😂

split maple
#

slap some crit multi on it

spice pecan
#

sniped this for 3c tho

#

for coc 👀

elfin shale
#

Is poison Reap any good

tight plinth
elfin shale
#

I wanna play reap but i dont want to do phys DoT and ive already done impale

split maple
#

clusters are missing 4% crit multi and a bit of int each too @umbral crag

tight plinth
#

just ignite with it and use blackflame

spice pecan
#

poison takes less advantage of the fat hits that reap does

#

which is why ignite is probably more popular

#

and phys dot ofc

split maple
#

kek 30 mirr

elfin shale
#

Does it? Ignite cant benefit (nearly as much) from spell cascade overlaps

umbral crag
split maple
#

double corrupt your emperors at that rate

tight plinth
#

it dont, but you wont need need woke cascade

opaque sphinx
#

dont forget to dbl corrupt ur jewels

#

drop convo for sigil of power too

#

and ur lethal pride has rage right ?

umbral crag
umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

o7

#

there u go

#

sigil

#

also try swapping a sup for nightblade

#

if u have elusive ticked i swear its gotta be worth it

umbral crag
#

How much -lightning res u got

opaque sphinx
#

200

umbral crag
#

Sorry on the ring alone i mean

elfin shale
#

You have to let go of the button for Flameblast to detonate right

opaque sphinx
#

141

split maple
#

runegraft of gemcraft pushes you over 6bil

#

idk how the fuck to fit it in tho

umbral crag
#

Whats the theoretical max?

#

On -lightning res ring

elfin shale
#

Is it possible to get 300% inc cast speed without obliterating the rest of my build ScuffThink

split maple
#

(okay ik how to fit it in, just swap eva/es mastery but you wont like it)

umbral crag
#

Bois we at 10b

opaque sphinx
#

160

elfin shale
opaque sphinx
umbral crag
#

Standard is different game HAHAH

opaque sphinx
#

cant wait for that to get passed when league ends

split maple
opaque sphinx
#

and new choir meets the bugged res chest

split maple
#

idk other sources are pretty much wands and jewels

elfin shale
#

Arcane Surge is pretty good right

opaque sphinx
#

300k ES for everybody

split maple
#

righteous fire of arcane is more cast speed too

elfin shale
#

I could go Surfcaster with rod, thats 50% More + reverse chill

elfin shale
#

This might not be as bad as i thought

#

Maybe i should do this on something but Flameblast of Contraction though kek

opaque sphinx
#

16bil dps and literally unkillable

split maple
#

ohh ffs @umbral crag just swap skill to mamba

#

lets see that 20biler

opaque sphinx
#

wait yeah wtf

#

u were doing this with REAVE LOL

#

mamba is double dps of reave

fiery marsh
#

Mfa

opaque sphinx
#

more than double

split maple
#

i should be pobing humble ehots wildspeaker today not fixing 100mirror accustackers 😄

opaque sphinx
#

i have 2.5b with mamba and if i use reave it goes to 1.2

fiery marsh
#

Standard gear mfa with whisperer?

umbral crag
#

Im missing something

opaque sphinx
#

use mamba

fiery marsh
#

Mamba is dot

opaque sphinx
#

no

#

it can be dot

#

its also the highest dps hit skill in the game

fiery marsh
#

Zenith called

proud gorge
#

wait, did they seriously put Adorned in PoE2

opaque sphinx
proud gorge
#

Adorned was one of the biggest mistakes of PoE1

opaque sphinx
#

do me a favour and put zenith in that pob

proud gorge
#

and they put it unchanged into PoE2

#

smh

split maple
#

zenith compensates by funny ball behaviour

opaque sphinx
#

nah

split maple
#

which you rly cannot get there due to invest

opaque sphinx
#

mamba is 900

#

cuz ur dual wielding

fiery marsh
#

Zenith is over 1200

opaque sphinx
#

no its not

split maple
#

now muph show me where we get in these pobs reduced proj speed

#

pls

opaque sphinx
#

maybe with nimis n shit

fiery marsh
#

I only played it once. Didn't like it. Worse than mjolner mana stacker imo

#

Lotta ramp time

split maple
#

so you played it without attack speed, thats allright

fiery marsh
#

Which you need giga attack speed that I didn't have

tall belfry
#

If you're using Mamba hit based, wouldn't it be more effective to run dual strike

opaque sphinx
#

zenith also has negative atk speed

#

and mamba doesnt

proud gorge
#

man, I need to get a Flask MTX or something

umbral crag
proud gorge
#

I keep forgetting to activate my Coruscating

split maple
fiery marsh
#

I had like 2.4 and it felt bad

opaque sphinx
#

as it should cuz thats really low

split maple
#

if you have less than 6aps zenith feels like ass and even at 6aps it feels like toilet paper

#

you went to it too soon

fiery marsh
#

Yeah. Didn't hit my reaver.

tall belfry
opaque sphinx
tall belfry
#

It is, in fact, the same effectiveness

opaque sphinx
#

mamba has double effectiveness when dual wielding

#

its not

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

mamba strikes with BOTH weapons at full DE

umbral crag
tall belfry
fiery marsh
#

Yes but mamba idk. Targeting feels off

tall belfry
#

Why are we saying things like they don't apply to the thing I brought up

opaque sphinx
#

oh it does, it also has 30% less atk speed

#

which is fuckin maassive

split maple
fiery marsh
#

Feels like a slam build. Insanely strong tho

tall belfry
#

Crit and damage is just better for mapping tho

onyx adder
#

Ambi is close to mamba dps but its honestly just easier to use mamba

opaque sphinx
#

u dont use mamba for mapping u use it for bosses

fiery marsh
#

I did the pa version. Dot build. Bonkers clear

onyx adder
#

Regular dual strike is rly unpleasant to play

#

70% base aspd can go fuck itself

fiery marsh
#

1 shot ubers

onyx adder
#

And it just does way less dmg than mamba

split maple
#

and @umbral crag pls 6mod abyssal and move cb immunity to emperor wit

onyx adder
#

Ambi is competitive tho

opaque sphinx
#

this is why

fiery marsh
split maple
#

divine your flasks too 😄 you missing 1% incr crit

onyx adder
#

Well the idea with dual strike is it does more damage if u literally oneshot everything

opaque sphinx
fiery marsh
#

Show config then

opaque sphinx
onyx adder
#

Yea thats normal

tall belfry
#

Fuck, instead of dealing 30x the hp of Ubers you're only doing 25x

opaque sphinx
#

the ONLY reason you use EITHER of those skills on this build is for bossing dmg

onyx adder
#

For every build if u dont have full life ticked mamba does 43% more dps than dual strike

opaque sphinx
#

otherwise u use reave or LS cuz why the fuck wouldnt you

tall belfry
onyx adder
#

Uh every hit build

opaque sphinx
#

when u use a single target dmg skill, the literal only thing u care about is single target dmg

fiery marsh
#

Dori cheese. Fuck off lol

opaque sphinx
#

i dont give a shit about the QoL on a skill that i ONLY use vs ubers

onyx adder
#

Im choosing the one that attacks 43% faster

#

Lmao

opaque sphinx
#

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

tall belfry
onyx adder
#

I mean sure but thats not the argument lul

fiery marsh
#

Dori cheese pob warrior.

opaque sphinx
#

....?

tall belfry
#

It's funny

opaque sphinx
split maple
#

Is there some button to turn Muph off or smh

tall belfry
umbral crag
split maple
tall belfry
#

Other than kira saying a bunch of not true things about dual strike before going "well I just don't wanna"

opaque sphinx
#

its 8x

onyx adder
#

And the tldr is it isnt

#

But ambi can be

umbral crag
#

I went away to pob warrioring and came back to drama kekw

opaque sphinx
grim pivot
onyx adder
#

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

fiery marsh
#

Its dori cheese. I.e. dies to dot

onyx adder
#

Good day

split maple
opaque sphinx
#

u also said it has "slightly less attack speed" which is also true

tall belfry
umbral crag
fiery marsh
opaque sphinx
#

i never said dual strike didnt i said mamba did

split maple
#

this league be broken Muphet

opaque sphinx
#

forgive me for not remember the exact reason the shit skill that nobody uses does less dmg than the good one

fiery marsh
#

Dori build. Idc

tall belfry
#

You're literally just pretending for no reason

opaque sphinx
#

because most people forget it does and its the main reason mamba does dmg

#

why are u so mad that i cant remember wtf dual strike does

fiery marsh
#

Cuz ds trash. Nobody uses it

tall belfry
#

Says the dude who is very clearly upset

onyx adder
#

Dual strike is uncompetitive for anything compared to ambi anyway even if u ignore mamba

opaque sphinx
#

cuz ur still going on about it

onyx adder
#

Just forget it exists its for memes only

onyx adder
#

U will all be happier

#

Trust

tight plinth
#

whats that item that ignores curse limit?

opaque sphinx
#

yfelban?

#

trickery

#

or w/e

tight plinth
#

yeah yeah thanks

umbral crag
#

https://pobb.in/D3zFnmXobIvI @split maple literally no diff HAHAH. 100% crit is nice tho

split maple
#

@umbral crag i would skip on synths on abyssal, try to pob smh like 6 explicit one with 2x crit multi suffix and ig inteligence

#

there are drop only 6moders after all

#

its 26% crit multi with ideal divine

tight plinth
#

balls, enemies have to hit me

tall belfry
#

Simply get hit

grizzled lily
#

that pob is so fake i fear

#

20bil dmg

#

not even tft build sellers pad their pobs that hard xd

umbral crag
#

Its only at around 200mirr right now

elfin shale
opaque sphinx
#

just donate to me

#

i only need 1.5 mir to hit 5b

split maple
tight plinth
split maple
#

assuming you have targets that let you ramp a bit

opaque sphinx
grizzled lily
umbral crag
#

Your conditionals in the pob is tincture, radiant, and ig rage, as long as you have targets to ramp

opaque sphinx
#

tbf

split maple
#

charges too 😛 you need stuff to hit

opaque sphinx
#

the rage is pretty bait

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

cuz nothing in the game will live long enough for u to stack it

split maple
#

but yeah its reasonable dps to hit in lets say that one union of souls valdo

opaque sphinx
#

but in theory if u find an unkillable wall this is ur dps

opaque sphinx
#

i tried

split maple
#

3x empower range

grizzled lily
#

i pad my pobs also but i never post them as proof that im giga dmg, you wont ever get that dmg vs an uber

split maple
#

and further 10bil of dps prayge

opaque sphinx
#

evet at 1.2b (swapped mamba for reave) i couldn't make titan blights survive more than 3 secs

opaque sphinx
fiery marsh
umbral crag
umbral crag
#

If u scroll up you'd see us discussing how far can we push numbers in pob for shit and giggles

opaque sphinx
#

and this was before a lot of upgrades

fiery marsh
#

Why? It's mapping.

split maple
opaque sphinx
#

think i only had 700m mamba dps in that clip

opaque sphinx
#

we may need 2 or 3 or maybe 5 more benefactors

thick goblet
#

this is like a chad level pob

split maple
#

nah chado would surely go adorned there

opaque sphinx
#

oh shit yeah why didn't we think of this

#

@timid sapphire wake up fucko

#

chaddify the pob

#

im not good at picturing 20m builds

opaque sphinx
#

just picture that but 4x faster

whole bluff
#

It's funneh, my build suddenly has dmg on spellslinger ignite, but now its ultra glass

opaque sphinx
#

that was the pob at the time yeh, literally 4x more dmg now

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

if u swap ur bound to mine, and the watcher, u can drop AA for PoI

#

and run precision again

split maple
opaque sphinx
#

i didn't realize that going this setup over sublime actually gets u more dmg overall

#

but yeh u get to use precision and crit multi prec watcher eye

#

if u dont care about ehp that's a decent push

split maple
#

Okay I want to somehow force another abysal socket there

#

Boots?

umbral crag
#

Wew maybe?

#

Can abyss sockets exist on infl?

split maple
#

Sure

umbral crag
#

Unfortunately i have to go off from my pc so cant pob further 🥲

fiery marsh
grizzled lily
#

can you omen of fortune shapers touch

fiery marsh
grizzled lily
#

okay

fiery marsh
#

Most common drop I think too

grizzled lily
#

idk why i thought you could omen of fortune it

umbral crag
fiery marsh
#

Boss drops can't be chanced

grizzled lily
#

isnt there a method to make an abyssal socket rare omen of fortune tech into cool uniue

#

with a socket

umbral crag
#

That first time dopamine hit pushing numbers is pob

umbral crag
whole bluff
fiery marsh
finite quail
#

Its a boss drop

finite quail
#

abyssal sockets from hollow fossils are granted by the item modifier from that fossil

#

If the unique doesnt have that modifier, the socket wont be there

whole bluff
finite quail
#

There used to be an exploit that would let you circumvent this

#

But I think it was for vendor recipes

#

Not sure about uniques

split maple
#

shouldnt work anymore

umbral crag
#

Yeah thats what i was remembering

fickle glen
#

What’s the highest item lvl in the game?

umbral crag
#

100?

split maple
#

there was a bunch of rly fancy double influenced abyssal socket ephemeral edges made 😄 i think sushi did attack speed corrupted one on stream burning hinekoras

#

100 yea

finite quail
umbral crag
stoic horizon
#

you dont get any benefit above 86 (or 7 dont remember) tho

split maple
#

86 should be max needed for all mods yea

finite quail
#

Item level doesnt mean much for power past a certain level though though

inner prawn
#

end of league yolo double corrupt.

split maple
#

higher is circumstantially useful for recomb upgrading ilvl of lower ilvl stufff

finite quail
#

ilvl 86 is where the highest level modifiers are

tall belfry
finite quail
stoic horizon
umbral crag
#

@split maple @opaque sphinx im starting to see why some people like to pob more than the time spent playing kek

inner prawn
split maple
#

you know whats the hardest part Lacro

#

making the pob realistic after you finish pobing

tall belfry
#

Poe is just executing on your spreadsheets anyways

fickle glen
#

I can’t find anything in the shop above 88

umbral crag
#

What do you think that pob actually costs to make

split maple
#

idk if all corrupts you want even exist in league, that abyssal almost sure doesnt 😄

stoic horizon
split maple
#

config stays padded

umbral crag
stoic horizon
split maple
#

watch the day 1 mb

#

i refuse to pob legstart without balbalas anymore

fickle glen
#

Anyone know where in the filter I can set item lvl?

fiery marsh
split maple
#

i dont do ivory tower

#

i just slap it on pob to fix reses with bismuth

fiery marsh
#

No coc

split maple
#

cba to craft

fiery marsh
#

Chains of command

#

Double coc brother

split maple
#

i want to do chains at some point actually i just dont have a good enough reason to actually do them

#

like i never run that much ravageds for that to make sense

fiery marsh
#

Comfy league start if you get a coc early tbh.

#

Bad mapper but it will map

split maple
#

idk i want my legstarter to hit t17 on ground crapo

#

and chains is t3

fiery marsh
#

Yeah it's typically cheap af on league start. Like 40c ish

split maple
#

yeah i really idc what something costs on legstart kek

finite quail
#

what are you trying to accomplish by doing that

fiery marsh
#

Starforge tho. Pretty penny

#

Paradoxia kinda expensive early too