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[plush gulch]

will you play phrecia ?

[split maple]

What the fuck there sounds like fulcrum

[fiery marsh]

Just walk around everywhere

[split maple]

Like there isn't even a guide for it

At least not a good one

[novel tinsel]

guys i haven't played poe1 since cospri malice coc ice nova was a thing. any suggestions on what to play for phrecia

[golden garden]

i wanna play right now haha but next week i surely will play aswell (unemployed rn lmao)

[novel tinsel]

i want something that plays itself if possible, but not rf

[fiery marsh]

There's an old fulcrum build from affliction

[plush gulch]

you are among the best one then

[split maple]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/reap-ignite-elementalist-league-starter

Check this one

[fiery marsh]

It's chieftain. Self ignite explodey

[limpid prairie]

Besides Light of Meaning and uh timeless jewels are there other circle jewels?

[split maple]

Lategame it has heraldstack pbod which explodes screens if you like game enough for hundred or so hours

[fiery marsh]

Don't play squishy witch

[plush gulch]

by the way if you want to argue more I advised many other bad build you can critisize

[split maple]

Attribute transforming corrupts, inspired learning

Healthy mind

Emm impossible escape

[plush gulch]

like volatile dead spellslinger

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/QP-0NOZWjvjK

i think this is the first time where a build has actually felt stronger than what pob shows lmao

[split maple]

Thread of hope too ig

[fiery marsh]

Necro

[plush gulch]

elementalist very good aswell

[split maple]

Elementalist rly isn't squish this league

[plush gulch]

actuially scaling the hit dmg

[limpid prairie]

Mmmh i have a dozen points on the area will see

[split maple]

Golem rework was crazy good

[plush gulch]

not the corpse part

the balls of fire

[spice pecan]

i would probably try to do ivory tower eblade in phrecia

if the campaign and early mapping didn't suck so much ass

[split maple]

If you talking scion area I would slap in unnatural instinct somewhere

There are also some funky options with temple jewels

Them tempered/transcendent stuff

[plush gulch]

would you advise people to try it

[golden garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXuJZFDP36o
what are you guys saying bout this? shit looks flashy and fun

[spice pecan]

i would not advise a new player to play ivory tower eblade, tbh

it's a lance build

it's pretty cool though, you can effectively use whatever spell you want

[plush gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-spit-vomit-gross-laugh-gif-12129945

[gritty epoch]

Tf is that aoe

[spice pecan]

but it's something to consider if you want a generally powerful caster that can play almost any spell

[plush gulch]

should be okay but you need to find a version adapted to phrecia

just on the Name sunder ignite elementalist

im sure it works

lol

[split maple]

Well he said he wants to play now, so no need for Phrecia yet 😄

[golden garden]

yeah yeah defently gonna play for at least 3h now

[plush gulch]

im sure he donna start this but start again from zero on phrecia

[split maple]

Who is that Master T dude tho? First time I hear of him

[plush gulch]

Mister T

respect on his name

[gritty epoch]

Foulborn Esh visage blood magic ivory tower

[spice pecan]

probably want to use rathpith at some point tho

[plush gulch]

why sunder and not ground slam ?

isn't ground slam better

I know ground slam is usable in endgame but I heard nobody talk about sunder

[split maple]

For ignite witch I would Cook leap slam of groundbreaking

[plush gulch]

past voidstone

[gritty epoch]

Sunder has bigger DE?

[plush gulch]

make sense

I don't know by heart

I guess it's a slower aoe

so bigger dmg

https://pobb.in/n5zuZW3jwVNW

how would you improve it

if it was your build

that's what I did last phrecia

I did my best

basically reverse chill

that's why i got the funny ring

but im curious what should I have done to make it better, everywhere I see people make insane build but I only make average stuff

[split maple]

Arkhon tools do anything for you maybe?

Idk

[plush gulch]

it probably can

but only for scorch

[fickle glen]

Hi, if I am able to craft 3 mods on a piece of gear, will I be able to place all 3 of those resistance mods or will it restrict me from having more than 1?

[split maple]

Each item can have one benchcraft by default

[spice pecan]

"can have up to 3 crafted mods" means you can craft 2 more mods, since that mod itself takes up one of the 3

[split maple]

Idk if these share a modgroup, but probably do

[fickle glen]

I know that part

[brazen vector]

Unless its an item with +1 crafted mod implicit

[spice pecan]

[fickle glen]

That’s stupid but ok

[split maple]

Oh they dont

You can have 2

[agile epoch]

So I got a bit of a question. Im a bit picky with my builds. I just made a scion, but I havent played the game for like a decade. I would really appreciate tips for builds. But perhaps most importantly I want an interactive build - so blowing up screens is out of the question. No auto farmers please.

[spice pecan]

yeah as long as you have the open affixes

but multimod is a suffix in itself so you'd need 3 open suffixes

[fickle glen]

I like that

[golden garden]

i just started as marauder and will go chieftain and ill see from there, something with fire is gonna happen we´ll see from here

[brazen vector]

Good luck

[fickle glen]

Awesome ty

[split maple]

Good luck 😄

[golden garden]

thank you guys for the comments

[plush gulch]

phrecia starts in 8 day

[spice pecan]

scion builds tend to be pretty expensive and/or hard to get going, you could play physical dot ascendant with reap + exsang + corrupting fever

but it's kind of just better on elementalist

[plush gulch]

nice good luck

[golden garden]

i will be there too 😄

[agile epoch]

i dont know what that is

[split maple]

The great issue of scion in general yeah, it's Just worse than smh else until you are a few mirr in

[plush gulch]

event league with alternative atlas tree and ascendancies

[spice pecan]

phrecia is literally peak path of exile

i still have no idea what build i want to play

[agile epoch]

I dont care too much. Wont be pushing too hard. I just want the gameplay to be as engaging as possible.

[plush gulch]

me something with tainted pact

so i don't die

[spice pecan]

i mean you can play it as like a 3 button build

if that's what you mean by engaging

[brazen vector]

ChoCo Puppeteer

[agile epoch]

Its hard not to fall into the many pits of making a build too strong

[spice pecan]

exsang for clear, reap for single target, keep corrupting fever up

[plush gulch]

he doesn't want to blow screen every second

i guess

blow up*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HrlMwiTJcI lightning trap my beloved

the poor guy spark

but more charismatic

how can people not like this skill

[spice pecan]

because traps are clunky

unless specifically played as bosskillers and nothing else

[plush gulch]

what's clunky about it ?

[spice pecan]

mines but they take an extra year to trigger

[agile epoch]

Seems rather automatic to me

[spice pecan]

ice trap of hollowness as a zhp uber farmer is probably the only trap i would consider playing

unless nesting totems within traps makes a comeback (it wont, ever)

[plush gulch]

it's up to personnal preference me i don't find it clunky at all

[agile epoch]

I think youre onto something. Do you think its preferable to cold snap?

[spice pecan]

not sure about regular cold snap. vaal cold snap is like, just playing cold RF but with 20 extra steps

[hard cliff]

they're not

[plush gulch]

something like retaliate I would say it's clunky

[spice pecan]

and cold snap of power kind of wants awakened spell cascade

[plush gulch]

traps not clunky for me

[pulsar dune]

You can't do zHP hollowness unless you're really really good at dodging bosses

Or go tiny aoe

[plush gulch]

way cooler though

:p

[spice pecan]

my brother in Chris, i play zhp totem bossers

[hard cliff]

is cold rf actually good unlike fire rf

[spice pecan]

uhh, ask lance idk

[pulsar dune]

Totems are a lot better than hollowness sunblast at bossing at zhp

[split maple]

Just do hive rf this leg

[agile epoch]

It certainly is. Its very possible late poe gameplay isnt for me.

[hard cliff]

I loved my mapping hollowness sabo league starter

[split maple]

Like herald of hive rly feels like rf if it was good

[plush gulch]

what i don't understand you agree with me then with him im totally lost

lol

my brain

[tepid dagger]

Any good rf gloves?

[spice pecan]

lightning conduit + orb of storms is also a build

[elfin spire]

can i un-summon specifically one of spectres and only that one?

[pulsar dune]

Blow it up with bodyswap of sacrifice IG

[agile epoch]

Ill check it out

[fickle glen]

Does the “Focused” buff work like it’s on automation or only when you use skills attached to the item with focused modifiers?

[spice pecan]

it's another button

[thick goblet]

did u see that giving life costs to heralds grants them flat, if it works with bog shaman it's huge

might cook up hoag or hive something

[fickle glen]

Manual buff?

[golden phoenix]

Yes, you press a focus button.

[hard cliff]

@fickle glen @spice pecan
I got a skill idea

you get a long buff but to power it up you have to manually tap the button like a Mario party game

[split maple]

That nightblood node?

Are heralds even spells you cast yourself in that context 🤔

How does that work with reservations

[thick goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1qj3qqx/comment/o0wgk45/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

just can't reserve more than how much it cost to activate it

so if dissolution reserves too much you lose the flat

[split maple]

Oh fuck if that works 😄

Can you somehow fit in lycia bloodline too

[tepid dagger]

What does recomb do?

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ilian-tiganev-ilian-tiganev-dancing-apple-pen-gif-15614795

[sleek barn]

combine two items together

[tepid dagger]

Genius gif

[sleek barn]

its a little complicated so you may want to watch a video or read a guide on it before trying

[brazen vector]

Or just ask esm

[tepid dagger]

Can i switch the mods tho?

[sleek barn]

what do you mean

[brazen vector]

Wdym by switch

[normal hedge]

[sleek barn]

i what do you meaned first

[brazen vector]

And? I dont care

[tepid dagger]

Like transfer a mod from another item onto the original

[lone night]

[brazen vector]

Yes

[sleek barn]

yeah thats the point

[tepid dagger]

Alright

[normal hedge]

if its the only exclusive modifier in the pool, yes

[sleek barn]

there are some caveats

[tepid dagger]

Will it increase the level of the item?

[sleek barn]

item level is determined by taking the average and increasing it by 2

[tepid dagger]

Ok thanks

[sleek barn]

i think its capped by the highest item level in the recomb though

i forget

[hexed mountain]

yes

that's why you just gamble a level 84 helm to recomb with archdemon to up it from 83 to 84

[sleek barn]

indeed

[tepid dagger]

Lvl 54

[sleek barn]

what do you mean level 54

[hexed mountain]

84

[tepid dagger]

Thats my level

[sleek barn]

Kharjou is just giving an example

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[tepid dagger]

Oh ok

[hexed mountain]

because its the very common use

[sleek barn]

you definitely don't have to be using recomb at level 54 though

[tepid dagger]

Is it gonna remove all the other mods i dont select?

[sleek barn]

you don't select mods

its random*

[tepid dagger]

Oh.

Im cooked

Guess no recomb

[sleek barn]

i mean you can give it a go

if you want to give it a try

and have dust + gold to spare

[tepid dagger]

Why the fuck do i need 13k dust 😭

[lean urchin]

thats 1 unique bruv

[sleek barn]

thats like a t2 unique

[livid quarry]

@brazen vector i sold the 40d ring for 45d then bought a 22d ring

[tall belfry]

How much dust is t0 again

[sleek barn]

no idea haven't done it

lemme see

[tall belfry]

I did it once and then promptly forgot

[sleek barn]

im seeing 1.3-1.5mil dust

i think thats right

[silent leaf]

https://youtu.be/3ElpM7s4KA0 he is cooking

[sleek barn]

stable and gambler in one sentence

impossible

[normal hedge]

emiracles microphone is so shitty holy

[silent leaf]

eh

its kinda fine for me

[normal hedge]

sounds like hes inside of a milk box

[fickle glen]

Show me

[hard cliff]

you get a long buff but to power it up you have to manually tap the button like a Mario party game

[hard cliff]

What skill ?

[spice pecan]

we arent playing stormbind

[hard cliff]

PURIFYING FLAMES

ewww cws

lame

[plush gulch]

I don't understand people that complain when someone show a cool build idea they have

and they use awakened multistrike

and then they are like holol awakened multistrike

as if it break the build to use the regular one

😅

at least mageblood it make more sense you've got to adapt the build a bit more with resistances and make a version less strong and less fast, yet some build are impossible to do almost without mb

but awakened multistrike pfff

those small youtuber getting bullied

[hard cliff]

Their are some woke gems that make or break builds

stormcall 😩

[plush gulch]

yeah for sure

[onyx adder]

Tbf sometimes ppl stack their builds with gear because the build is inefficient and needs the gear to compete

And sometimes LUL WOKE MULTISTRIKE, while a stupid and reductive comment usually, is a way to express that thought

So sometimes i get it even if theres better ways to express urself

[plush gulch]

I feel like if I see somone with 30M dps and they have awakened multi strike all I think okay if I do it I can expect a bit less dmg

[onyx adder]

Well

I also think okay what else is padded

[spice pecan]

^

[hard cliff]

Play heavily padded builds with 90 billion dps

[onyx adder]

But yea sure on its own i agree

[hard cliff]

best case scenario you get like 90 mill dps

that's enough for everything

😎

[onyx adder]

Sometimes u get 90 dps

[plush gulch]

also sometimes not all video about are like look at the strongest build I made

best league start

sometimes it's just I had this cool idea

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/metalocalypse-gif-14958483065282322846

[plush gulch]

it works

[tall belfry]

This is why I never bother with build guides

I'd rather make my own shit than to dig through the pob and see what's padded or unrealistic

[onyx adder]

Yea i agree

But that also means im not gonna waste my time going LUL WOKE MULTISTRIKE

[plush gulch]

but you can play a worse version of it and work up to get a mageblood

like most of the build in the game

[onyx adder]

Im going to take the one good idea and throw out everything else

[plush gulch]

would be improve by it

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lewd-cat-dumb-gif-7213020066017231983

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820

[onyx adder]

Since i figure expecting internet randoms to have more than one good idea in the same build is way too much credit

[tall belfry]

Also something build guides are bad at conveying, even sometime video guides? If the build is a jankfest of negative qol

[plush gulch]

i find it good when they are clear though about this is expensive annd you NEED this to make it work

but it's often rare it's this way

often it's just okay if you don't use this it's less dmg

that's about it

🤔

[hexed mountain]

count the skills and how many are automatic/trigger :^)

[plush gulch]

so I never get the big deal about it

[silent leaf]

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[hard cliff]

If you can't tell me a downside or three of your build you are not to be trusted

[plush gulch]

unless they really try to bait

[hexed mountain]

its the surprise

[tall belfry]

There was a jousis vid where he was explaining how to get a spellcast loop going, and he had to keep weapon swapping to start the fucking loop up and called it similar to starting a lawnmower

My eyes glazed over

I died a bit inside

[spice pecan]

yes, that's how lifeloopers generally work

you have to ramp the recoup

[onyx adder]

Its not just the button pressing

[plush gulch]

I looked a video assassin was very cool it was going 95% evasion, full block, acrobatics. poison reave

really neat stuff

[hexed mountain]

my warden kinetic fusillade is perfect (3500 hp , dies if it gets grazed without heart of flame up)

[silent leaf]

Wasn't it Wardloop

[onyx adder]

Its also ppl with like YO DOT DPS CAP ON 20C BUDGET

[spice pecan]

no

[silent leaf]

With the Uber exarch weapon

[spice pecan]

it was wardless wardloop

[hexed mountain]

(also mana issues when no mobs around)

[spice pecan]

aka lifeloop

[onyx adder]

And then u look and its some fucking assassin with 20 second ramp

[tall belfry]

I don't remember which one but I'm pretty sure that one was life based

[spice pecan]

it's forbidden build 10 on his channel

[silent leaf]

Ye I vaguely remember

Lmao

[plush gulch]

that's lame

[hexed mountain]

first thing of checking any poison build : check single poison dps and how many you realistically apply in a second

[tall belfry]

Ain't no way in hell I'm playing a build where I have to start it like a fucking lawnmower

[plush gulch]

you can already have big skeptic brain

[spice pecan]

real step #1 of poison pobs: check wither config

[plush gulch]

going into the vod

[plush gulch]

why do people do this

[normal hedge]

real step #1 of poison: check if count is set to 30

[hexed mountain]

wither depends on gear really

[spice pecan]

if i see you have 15 wither configged and your only source of wither is the pathfinder node

[hard cliff]

Nice

[hexed mountain]

mamba gets to like 13-14 instant wither with withering step

[spice pecan]

i will flame you for it

[onyx adder]

Random selfcast wither as 25th gem slot

[plush gulch]

if you make a cool ass build even if you don't have as much dmg you can still share it, people can like the idea and maybe share improvement

[onyx adder]

Occultist with no other wither support

[plush gulch]

no need to bait

[onyx adder]

My faves

[tall belfry]

Or worse, a manaforged arrow setup

[hexed mountain]

then again mamba is very rarely "bait" dps unless you count double damage proc

[plush gulch]

I remember snoobae with the headhunter stack

[normal hedge]

trips got so sad when she discovered she wasnt doing 120m poison dmg with fross

[onyx adder]

Na i do this, its reasonable on some builds

[normal hedge]

[plush gulch]

and still to this day im like a bit weird but you can't say you don't have hh while mapping

[spice pecan]

i am actively flaming you at this current moment

[onyx adder]

Lulw

[spice pecan]

hh is a bonus item to me

[onyx adder]

Its like 30 hits per sec or something

[onyx adder]

Some builds do that without issues

[spice pecan]

whatever you get from hh should just be a bonus, esp since the mods are random anyways

[silent leaf]

There's some builds that do 70

Melee hits

[spice pecan]

get onetapped in a legion? you aren't finishing that

[cosmic reef]

wither is easy just have an overwhelming malice cluster

[tall belfry]

If I get one tapped in legion I'm either turning it off or throwing out the build

[hexed mountain]

HH is pointless in pob anyway since you're not having buffs up on ubers

[silent leaf]

80 attributes total belt

[spice pecan]

nah sometimes you just get wasted by a random archnemesis mob or w/e

[silent leaf]

[onyx adder]

@spice pecan ok u gotta flame this guy too

[hexed mountain]

can't count the number of times i wanted to swap out of my HH for bossing and just kept it on because attributes are obnoxious

[plush gulch]

i don't think it's the problem, not everyone want to do uber with an hh but I think it's impossible to compare build if some people put hh buff and other not and some don'tg have hh

[onyx adder]

Fair is fair

[plush gulch]

it's a mess

[tall belfry]

Archnem has done irreparable damage to the game trutru

[spice pecan]

i hold you to a higher standard sadly

[onyx adder]

Oh ok

Reasonable

[spice pecan]

[onyx adder]

I am a god after all

[tall belfry]

Stasis prison mana siphon soul eater just bricking your whole fucking map randomly

[plush gulch]

i think people put such a big focus on uber for build while I really think uber bossing is such a niche content almost nobody does

it's a big slot machine

[onyx adder]

Well

[plush gulch]

with expensive ticket price

[normal hedge]

uber feared rotas are very profitable

[onyx adder]

Some people like their build to do challenges solo

[hexed mountain]

its because unless your build is insanely bad you're scaling enough for pinnacles anyway

[onyx adder]

Even if they only do it once

[hexed mountain]

its very hard to make a build that cant do pinnacles with half decent gear

[onyx adder]

An actual uber boss farmer doesnt look much like most builds anyway

[tall belfry]

Like yeah realistically you don't need to do Ubers but I like to do them at the end of a build just to prove I could anyways

[plush gulch]

yeah I get that but not a lot of people would actively try to farm them especially any mapper focused build

[hard cliff]

@sleek barn

good

[hexed mountain]

yeah its more like if you just want to do it a few times

[plush gulch]

and on a lot of them doing an uber once

I think it's okay

just not great

just you know your build is bad because on uber it doesn't work exactly like this

sometimes I think its a bit

dishonest

[tall belfry]

Measuring vs Ubers I think is a decent benchmark, since they have the highest DR and best defensive stats

[onyx adder]

Well

[tall belfry]

If on paper you can comfortably do Ubers you should be able to do anything else

[plush gulch]

when its build definitely not intended for it

[hexed mountain]

also having damage to do ubers means you have the damage to do rares who tend to get tankier than pinnacles once you juice

[plush gulch]

which most build are I think

everyone just does map

nobody want to do uber xD

[onyx adder]

I do think ppl are really bad in general at understanding how to not die in maps other than to just click a skill with huge coverage and hope u dont get hit

[hexed mountain]

like i just dont want to afk dps a rare for 5-10 seconds

[plush gulch]

I see

[hexed mountain]

once the build is geared

[onyx adder]

And thats partly because pob is bad at telling u how to not die in maps

[spice pecan]

bow builds be like

[onyx adder]

But its rly good at telling u how to not die to and kill ubers

[plush gulch]

idk how to not die

[hexed mountain]

i click heart of flames and it avoids dying in maps :^)

[tall belfry]

And also padded like a mofo on top in most cases

[plush gulch]

I just do die

:

:p

[onyx adder]

So ppl gravitate towards that metric because pob tells u how to solve it

Like, if u post a pob thats got mapping settings on it

[plush gulch]

discord notif from LE I don't even want to check

[onyx adder]

Ppl will call u a moron and accuse u of padding

[tall belfry]

Huge pet peeve of mine is when people post ehp stats post guard skill

[onyx adder]

But if what u want to do is not die to shotguns or random ground dots or ritual mobs or whatever ur fsrming

[plush gulch]

not always on purpose

[hexed mountain]

that being said i'm more of a softcore enjoyer , if the build deals very good damage i'm fine with just capped suppress or 50-60 spellblock and decent life pool

[plush gulch]

though

[onyx adder]

Then u need to set up ur pob so that its giving u the answers u need

[tepid dagger]

Can shield charge be tranfigured by the divine font from the lab??

[plush gulch]

everytime I share a pob I forgot

[onyx adder]

Even if its not standard settings

[onyx adder]

Imo ehp post guard skill is fine stat for mapping if u have it on cwdt

Maxhit post guard skill is fine stat for bossing if u have it on manual

Neither is good as a default stat

They tell u specific things

[tall belfry]

It depends on if you can survive long enough to get cwdt trigger lmao

All that ehp means nothing if you got one shot

[onyx adder]

Well if ur mapping its very rare that u get true oneshot unless u have actual 0 defenses

[gritty epoch]

Padding is like certain maxroll guide with heatshiver and trinity, ticks frozen

[onyx adder]

And if u dont get true oneshot cwdt pretty much always goes off

Cwdt guard skill is super good vs shotguns

[gritty epoch]

5mil base DPS, put 60% chill effect

[tall belfry]

Im gonna disagree with this, players that know what they're doing rarely get truly one shot

[onyx adder]

Its just terrible vs like

Shaper slam

[onyx adder]

Huh

Ur agreeing with me

[tall belfry]

Kinda

People who use build guides every league are less likely to be the types that know what they're doing

Which makes that cwdt guard skill ehp useless

[onyx adder]

Eh what no

[spice pecan]

i disagree with that

i use guides because i'm unoriginal as fuck

[tall belfry]

Less likely

[onyx adder]

Cwdt guard skill is rly good if u dont know what ur doing and stand in shotguns

[spice pecan]

and i guarantee someone has done what i want to do, but better

[onyx adder]

Way better than other options for mapping if ur clueless

[plush gulch]

guys I hate the AI voice

[tall belfry]

I stand in shotguns because I like to feel alive

[plush gulch]

way more than any padding

[hard cliff]

Heart of Flames + Shaper of Storms + Pyroshock Clasp belt + Herald of Thunder

[onyx adder]

Automation guard skill is garbage and manual guard skill is terrible if u dont know when to press it

That just leaves cwdt

[hard cliff]

I call it the sharknado defense

[onyx adder]

Ive seen ppl use cws guard skill as well sometimes

[hexed mountain]

i may have gotten the name wrong isnt heart of flame the name of the graft

[onyx adder]

Thats not the worst

[tall belfry]

Cws ain't bad

[plush gulch]

piragon isn't my friend anymore

[hard cliff]

I am referring to the witch ascendascy

[plush gulch]

he ignore me 95% of the time

[hard cliff]

so who knows

[hexed mountain]

yeah that's shaper of flames

[plush gulch]

im goiing to sleep in sadness

[hard cliff]

Damn

I'M SORRY @hexed mountain

[hexed mountain]

i was talking about the guard graft giving the 4-5K shield

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-my-apolocheese-apollo-cat-orange-cat-gif-17118325968431760443

[hexed mountain]

when you lose hp + arrogance precision or clarity

[onyx adder]

That graft is so dumb

[night bone]

I still haven't found any mind-kaplodey combos of phrecia and bloodline ascendancies

[spice pecan]

herald with lycia

is the obvious one

[tall belfry]

And herald is already stupid dps for free

[hexed mountain]

yeah super strong , its solo carrying my KF warden's defenses into playable category

[night bone]

disables other auras, never using that one

[tall belfry]

Oh this guy doesn't know about virality stacking

[hexed mountain]

you dont have mana to reserve auras on herald builds anyway

you want them expensive to abuse the bloodline

[night bone]

I know, I'm just not interested

[hexed mountain]

i pray they buff the bad ascendancies when they nerf the good ones

[tall belfry]

I'm hoping behemoth keeps the spells deal no damage but removes the unable to use spells

[hexed mountain]

unlikely that would be way too big , but maybe they will make warcries usable at least

[onyx adder]

Spells deal no damage isnt even a drawback

[night bone]

I think it should be able to deal damage with spells and use spells, but not use auras. I wouldn't play it, but it would be more fair, imo

[onyx adder]

What damaging spells would any of those builds even use

[night bone]

beserk

[hexed mountain]

its not a damaging spell

its a buff

[night bone]

and i was being cheeky

[tall belfry]

It isn't, not really, but it opens the door to some actual interesting build choices

Shit didn't see any play last time

Built in hateforge is really strong but it's clearly not strong enough to convince people to play the damn thing

[onyx adder]

Warcries arent spells anyway

[hexed mountain]

they're disabled tho

[night bone]

I'm honestly not too big a fan of built-in uniques as ascendancies

[hexed mountain]

at least with gruthkul

unless they changed it

wait the wording seems to mean behemoth can actually use warcries rn yeah

[night bone]

like, the uniques still exist, and are usually better for multiple reasons (sockets, corruptions, whatever), so having ascendancies just do what uniques do is at best an early game buff and late game huge nerf

[tall belfry]

You just swap off the unique node if you get the item later and want to use it

[hexed mountain]

damn 10% base crit unarmed with the chest giving 7%

[fickle glen]

What’s allowing this item to have 4 prefix? I always thought 3 was the max

[tall belfry]

Plus not having a slot taken by the unique is actually pretty huge for buildcrafting

[night bone]

but the ascendancy does less, has fewer options

[hexed mountain]

hybrid mod its not 4

[spice pecan]

hybrid prefix on the %eva most likely

[onyx adder]

No, they worj

[night bone]

but, i will admit the bloodline stuff might save it, but again, I haven't found anything mind-kaplodey there yet

[onyx adder]

Work

Autoexertion is disable tho

[fickle glen]

What do you look for to know it’s hybrid?

[hexed mountain]

they will have to change architect of chaos too

there's overlap with the bloodline

[tall belfry]

Press in right stick

It'll show you mods grouped together if it's a hybrid mod

[onyx adder]

So ur manually fuckin clicking ur skills like chris intended

[night bone]

also possible a phrecian ascendancy + bloodline ascendancy + grafts might be damn cool... but I'm having trouble getting motivation to see walls that I have to walk up to to get rid of them

[hexed mountain]

unironically considering whisperer with MFA everywhere and the runegraft

[onyx adder]

Might be a BV league or similar

[fickle glen]

Ty

[onyx adder]

Where ur not clearing screens ahead

[tall belfry]

Does flicker melt walls yet

[night bone]

currently the only thing I'm thinking of maybe playing is a spark surfcaster

[onyx adder]

Ur just running at mobs and letting explosions clear

[tall belfry]

I remember that being a problem on league start

[onyx adder]

I mean spark clear versus infinite walls does not sound like my ideal matchup

Sure ur gonna delete everything that u hit

[tall belfry]

But you gotta hit

[night bone]

right, but that's the only phrecian ascendancy I'm even lukewarm on

so you see the problem

[tall belfry]

Not really tbh

If you aren't excited for the event, no one is forcing you to play it

[night bone]

I want to be...

[onyx adder]

Im at least 50% chance to skip

[night bone]

but yeah, I'm 50/50 right now

[onyx adder]

The other 50% is if i play BV and run at walls all day

[spice pecan]

im playing it, but i also have to play wow tbc when that launches like a week after

[tall belfry]

I'll probably play just because I really enjoyed last phrecia

[spice pecan]

what asc you thinking about playing BV on? I thought i heard some tech on bog shaman

[tall belfry]

I did quintuple herald chaos convert bv lmao

[onyx adder]

Rathpith bog prolly

Life stacker poison bv looks pretty giga

[spice pecan]

seems good, if wintertide bog shaman ends up way too janky i might play BV or EK

[onyx adder]

With foulborn rathpith

[oak lodge]

just got 10 maps, t16.5 map.. is there something wrong ? is this normal?

[spice pecan]

relatively interchangeable skills imo

-unleash, +chain

[hard cliff]

@spice pecan
I like it

[onyx adder]

The gear is similar

Ur just clicking foulborn rathpith and a pile of life

[spice pecan]

yeah, i looked at a poison EK build for 3.27 and it's almost 1 for 1 the same as poison BV

xdd

[tall belfry]

Something that looked really funny to me was null's inclination dex stack

I haven't pobbed it yet and have very low expectations but

It made me giggle when I thought of it

[hexed mountain]

dex stack wildspeaker was kinda fun

i played it half of phrecia

[tall belfry]

Realistically if I play wildspeaker I'll just play it like bootleg rage ramping melee

[hexed mountain]

i did dom blow of inspiring

[tall belfry]

Yeah fair

[hexed mountain]

300% minion damage to your damage gets real high quick

[tall belfry]

I just don't want to play a skill I would play in a normal league

[hexed mountain]

just had to switch out to LS for uber maven

melee strike vs her was just CBT

[tall belfry]

Cognitive behavioral therapy

[night bone]

what do you guys do for stun immunity on shadow, witch, or ranger builds?

[tall belfry]

Don't get hit

[hexed mountain]

pantheon

[tall belfry]

Stack 6 portals

[pseudo axle]

for budget, probably pantheon

[night bone]

that's stunlock immunity, not stun immunity

[pseudo axle]

after that, you have options such as flesh/flame combos (if they exist for a given class), etc.

flask affix?

[hexed mountain]

get stunned then dont get stunned , no problemo

[fickle glen]

As an evasion builder, how do I deal with spells that deal purely just physical damage? I know suppression is one but it didn’t feel like it’s enough

[pseudo axle]

stunlock immunity can be just as good as stun immunity if you have enough responsible defensive layers to mitigate that shortcoming

[hexed mountain]

1000% immutable force jewel :^)

[spice pecan]

physical taken as x

lightning coil, cloak of flame, doppelganger guise

stuff like that

[night bone]

I just hate any interruption to my movement or skill use

[pseudo axle]

endurance charges, phys taken as x, idk if there's a way to convert evasion to armour.

[pseudo axle]

mageblood

[hexed mountain]

iron reflex but meh

[pseudo axle]

its expensive but it exists

[spice pecan]

iron reflexes converts evasion to armor

[night bone]

so I've taken to always getting stun immunity somehow, usually stacking %chance to avoid being stunned on jewels

[pseudo axle]

I mean thats the uh, painful way to do it.

[night bone]

was just wondering if there was an easier way

[pseudo axle]

mageblood + flask affix

[fickle glen]

I tried it but it wasn’t that great against melee burst

[hexed mountain]

mageblood with stun affix is the "easiest"

[spice pecan]

no, armor is not great against burst damage

it's better at mitigating lots of small hits

[cosmic reef]

unwavering stance

[night bone]

mageblood is endgame for me, i don't plan for endgame

[pseudo axle]

kaom's roots

[spice pecan]

like getting bodyblocked after frostblinking into a shrine pack or something

[night bone]

witch, shadow, ranger was the question, they don't have easy access to that

[hexed mountain]

the good old divine shrine death

[thick goblet]

what's your life pool at now though? cause all of these defensive layers are multiplicative on top of your base ehp
so if your life is still like 3k, it's not going to feel great no matter what

[pseudo axle]

skin of the lords unwavering stance with the sockets you need ez

[cosmic reef]

I think they have good access to it

[spice pecan]

if you take unwavering stance you need to take iron reflexes fyi

if you're using eva bases

[cosmic reef]

that jewel node is efficient its only 3 passives, and its 2 passives away from that jewel node. it doesnt cost much to get it

[hexed mountain]

guys, kiloava buster + gambler for 90% chance to be considered as 90% resist when hit , with no res on gear. TRUE GAMBLER mode

[onyx adder]

Iron reflexes is almost always a misclick

[hexed mountain]

10% chance to die

[spice pecan]

the only time i ever use a large cluster slot for timeless jewels is in the corners

[onyx adder]

The times when it is not a misclick u will be 1000% sure it is not a misclick

[spice pecan]

because they hit the 30 attr nodes

[onyx adder]

Because u will be building around it

[pseudo axle]

Eye of Chayula @night bone

[onyx adder]

Its never something u just click randomly and hope to be more tanky

[pseudo axle]

that's the ancient int/dex class tech

for stun avoid

[night bone]

now that's a solid option, if kinda expensive

[spice pecan]

i think disabling your ability to evade thru unwavering stance constitutes clicking iron reflexes if you're wearing eva gear tbh

[onyx adder]

Thats very much not a random click tho

[spice pecan]

yea

[pseudo axle]

mark of elder/shaper is hilarious if taking up two slots

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Stun#Avoiding_stun

under the "stun immunity" section

there's some more options

[spice pecan]

are stun avoid tattoos even that expensive

what if you just -100 dex for it

[night bone]

my last character was cyclone and had a "cannot be stunned while using socketed skills" chest

[cosmic reef]

building evasion gear... what is this last epoch

[night bone]

in the very least that would reduce the amount needed on jewels... good idea

[pseudo axle]

this seems wildly inefficient but possible?

[spice pecan]

you don't lose passives pathing to unwavering stance

[pseudo axle]

I feel like there are actual tattoos you can put there instead

[spice pecan]

and you can still evade

if you're right side, you might as well

[tall belfry]

Who needs dex anyways

[spice pecan]

since you certainly won't need suppress tattoos

and yeah, dex is useless outside of attr reqs imo

yea i said it

[onyx adder]

How do u all feel about nerfed suppression now we got a chance to play with it

[tall belfry]

Smfh

[spice pecan]

wish they would have just removed suppress

tbh

[tall belfry]

Feels half assed

[lean urchin]

50% looks much better than 40%

[spice pecan]

always feel bad when i die to clearly spell damage because i decided to not play a supp build

and the nerf makes me feel that way even when i do play it

[thick goblet]

eh, they needed to add something else to right side
or at least more life as a basic option

[spice pecan]

no hybrid life/eva nodes on right side is brazy

tbh

[tall belfry]

All the nerf did was make it more likely I click acrobatics

Which is an insane thing to say

[thick goblet]

holy

[night bone]

I would like to see more recovery on the right side, something like flat or % life gain on evade

[thick goblet]

yeah acro is such ass cheeks

[spice pecan]

clicking acrobatics is the correct play in exactly one case

[hexed mountain]

acrobatics looks kinda nice if you're a wildspeaker tho

[spice pecan]

and that case is: "im using a timeless to overwrite it"

[onyx adder]

Insert 2x0 meme

[hexed mountain]

so cheap you can actually stack spellblock and 75% spelldodge

[pseudo axle]

I get that making defenses too good is like, antithetical to the game, but also jesus GGG please let us have fun if we want to stack non-ES defenses.

[spice pecan]

also isn't spell dodge just mathematically worse than suppress cap

[onyx adder]

No

[hexed mountain]

not anymore

[spice pecan]

or is that not true anymore yeah

[hexed mountain]

it was already technically better at cap

in pure maths

[onyx adder]

It was never strictly true but usually practically true

[tall belfry]

It's not true which is why I actually have a temptation to click acro

[hexed mountain]

but taking full damage that 25% of time can outright kill you

so people prefer suppress

[tall belfry]

Acro for sure feels worse

[onyx adder]

Yer

[tall belfry]

Mathematically it's strictly better

[onyx adder]

No

Only if ur damage function has damage in infinitely small increments

Since the mathematics isnt how much damage u take over time but how much damage u take before ur recovery kicks in

[hexed mountain]

it probably feels good if you can afford spellblock on top

makes it very rare for anything to go through

[onyx adder]

The more layers u have

The better acro is

[onyx adder]

But mostly i dont make builds with SO much defenses that acro is better

[hexed mountain]

why is lethal rares under do not take

[tall belfry]

Surely f&s and fort is good enough

[golden moat]

reasonable phercia budget build https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/GhostRMT-1637/GhostSixPortalDefense?i=4&search=allskills%3DHatred%26class%3DSurfcaster%26sort%3Dehp

[onyx adder]

FnS is the biggest bait in current poe i stg

U can thank pob for that

[tall belfry]

Tbf if looks good in game too

Functionally tho...

[spice pecan]

we're all desperate for phys mit when we have other unique chests we have to use

[onyx adder]

Ppl all out here clicking it and being like YO 20% MORE MAXHIT then they die from some effect at range 30 where the mob is technically in the radius but fns is barely doing anything

I only click fns if im playing some actual 0 range melee clunker

[tall belfry]

Be fast and have 0 strike range

[onyx adder]

Where its legit

[tall belfry]

That's what I'm gonna play in phrecia lel

[thick goblet]

do you think the bog shaman nightblood node (base life cost) is gonna work with heralds? apparently the king of the mists node works but that wording is different
cause if it does, hoag or hive might be juicy

[spice pecan]

i have a feeling that gets prenerfed

[tall belfry]

Hoag kinda looks juicy on bog either way

[spice pecan]

like snapow's tainted pact tech from phrecia 1

tbh

[past rain]

9k phy hit

🥀

[hexed mountain]

it should work just like pathfinder's flask node worked on heralds

[thick goblet]

what was his tech

[thick goblet]

i've only seen herald pobs with the max virulence, is bog better?

[tall belfry]

Oh no absolutely not compared to stacking with hearld

[hexed mountain]

bog looks insanely strong with foulborn rathpith tbh

that shit goes to 15-20K life no?

[past rain]

bog is op ye

[spice pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMD-16MTfe8

it was gluttony rather than tainted pact

but i think in the phrecia vid after this he mentions that it got pre-nerfed

[fickle glen]

Does this location refer to maps or low lvl campaign?

[hexed mountain]

i just dont really like any dot spells sadly

[hard cliff]

Glacial Cascade bog witch

[lean urchin]

that one is in campaing, act 6 iirc

[hexed mountain]

soulrend is kinda cool but eh doesnt really align with life stack

[tall belfry]

Exsang so fun

[fickle glen]

Ty

[thick goblet]

interesting ill take a look, thanks

[tall belfry]

And there's some synergy there with lifestack

[thick goblet]

also is hoag actually that bad in shitty layouts, ive never played it

[hexed mountain]

yeah i guess , with like 1000-2000% spell damage on essence drain it could actually be playable

[hard cliff]

Why is herald of agony Herald a bad idea ?

You can stack lone messenger and use Cobra Lash to stack poisons

[hexed mountain]

ED also uses all 3 stats of toad pact i guess

[past rain]

Grey Wind + Foulborn Rathpit + Bog

lock in

[tall belfry]

It can be really unfortunate in tight cramped hallways with lots of doors

[hexed mountain]

someone knows if harbinger skills CD start when they cast their buff of after the buff ends, they're casting so the buff being on you shouldnt delay the next cast right?

because harbinger with its 30% slower expiry rate of buffs + the same mod on runegraft looks like some GIGA buff duration maybe you could have the buff perma up (and enjoy HH)

[steel light]

ilvl 83

[hexed mountain]

harbi just kinda lacks a damage node

unless you can use the 40% cdr

[spice pecan]

clarification: snap (and probably jungle ryan) got sap of the seasons pre-nerfed in 3.25, i could have sworn he did a video talking about some gluttony of elements nerf for phrecia because of what happened in delve league

so i might have gotten them mixed up

[hard cliff]

sexy

[thick goblet]

they need to hurry up and drop patch notes

[hexed mountain]

i take ele harbinger bows are still not very sought after right?

people still use mainly the faster bases

[spice pecan]

bow builds in 2026

i almost typed 2025

[sleek barn]

holy shit profits 📈

[hard cliff]

You getting old boy

[spice pecan]

i'll be 31 on friday

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/put-out-the-candle-put-it-out-birthday-cat-candles-out-neatdad-gif-1415352204436496093

[sleek barn]

oh thats pretty funny

i remember this

[spice pecan]

thats 32 fucking hours from now god dammit

[native abyss]

[thick goblet]

happy early birthday

[spice pecan]

tyty

[hard cliff]

Friday we're getting a severe ice storm

[sleek barn]

joever

take out your snow shovels

[hard cliff]

You can't snow shovel ice

[potent bramble]

Can we trade? Friday it's supposed to be a high of -3 degrees (in freedom units)

[sleek barn]

take out your flamethrowers

[thick goblet]

get the salt out

[hard cliff]

Why would we trade that's not much better lol

[hexed mountain]

that's not old in this community tbh

[hard cliff]

Yes I got some kind of environemnetally friendly salt with the roadrunner on it for some reason

[potent bramble]

Yeah but a severe ice storm - as long as it's in the morning - would be really useful for me/my family lol

[hard cliff]

and just bought drugs,food and hand waremrs

[heady cliff]

sunday -13/-22 in sane units

[sleek barn]

drugs being the important part

[hard cliff]

Roomate is gonna be gone It's time for the Christmas Wine

[heady cliff]

meanwhile communal workers created a ~2.5m high snow mountain nearby

[sleek barn]

alr im locking in

[native abyss]

looking forward to 22 inches of snow

[spice pecan]

i probably have organ failure in every vital organ, brain damage, and i also have the Omega Gay

[hexed mountain]

ew

[grizzled lily]

omg #poe1-news !!!

[spice pecan]

so you could say i'm about 271 years old

[potent bramble]

While that does suck... on my weather widget, from yesterday to next week on Tuesday, the highest temperature anywhere in the forecast is the high of 30 and snowing from yesterday/today lol

Which is to say, in an 8 day stretch we're still not getting above freezing

[earnest raven]

Time to snowboard

[heady cliff]

that still beats some other regions here

[spice pecan]

my mom's supposed to be doing the 5 hour drive up to me for my bday assuming the weather's good

[heady cliff]

they have snowfalls that cover whole houses lul

[spice pecan]

she does not know how to pump her own gas and is terrified of it

bc we grew up in like the one state where it's illegal to pump your own gas

(actually there's two)

[potent bramble]

Believe it or not, you said she doesn't know how and I immediately knew where you were from

[normal hedge]

i'm sure you can send her a tutorial

[spice pecan]

i swear to god you better hit the 50/50

[spice pecan]

a few years ago she wanted me to meet her halfway and do it for her and i was like "uh..."

now she settled on letting me talk her thru it on the phone lmao

[potent bramble]

I mean I just knew the regional name, not the specific state. Though my gut says Washington, I'm not sure anyone actually lives in Oregon they just go there to hike and/or pretend they're locals

[normal hedge]

sounds a great idea!

[spice pecan]

yeah, I grew up in oregon with my mom

where it's illegal to pump your own gas

[potent bramble]

50/50 failed

[spice pecan]

but i moved to WA when I was 18, so it's second nature to me now

don't worry, no one knows anything about oregon outside of portland or eugene xdd

[potent bramble]

Wait Washington does self-service? I thought both states were weird like that

[spice pecan]

nah, it's OR and NJ

and i've never been to joisey so i can't 100% confirm that

but yeah in OR you straight up can't self-serve at all, unless you roll up in some legacy ass car

[potent bramble]

Oh. I've been there... once? But we weren't in the state long enough to need gas - just in, visit the Turtle Back Zoo outside of Orange, NJ (highly reccomended, btw), then left again

[normal hedge]

its kinda weird not having someone to pump your gas for you, i'm so used to it

[spice pecan]

yeah, that's how i felt when i first moved away

[hexed mountain]

kinda want to start whisperer ... but the awakened fork node is getting nuked isnt it

[normal hedge]

i'm pretty sure ggg dont know how op it is

they're nerfing like

[spice pecan]

woke fork doesn't get the nuke

[normal hedge]

scav

and ac

[hexed mountain]

prophet 100% gets the axe

[spice pecan]

they nerf 1dex = 1mana to 2dex = 1mana

100%

[normal hedge]

i think blind prophet is fair and balanced

[spice pecan]

bp is still nuts

[hexed mountain]

hum

[spice pecan]

even on LS

[hexed mountain]

its still ridiculously strong

[spice pecan]

and it'll be like a valdo bot farm machine with molten strike

[normal hedge]

( i'm in copium mode because i wanna play it )

[spice pecan]

wait nvm it has no defenses

it wont farm valdos without dod or some shit

[hexed mountain]

svalynn

[normal hedge]

eh

[spice pecan]

lemme just cop a svalinn in 3 weeks yeah

or in 1 week

[potent bramble]

I need to decide on a good tanky build... I'm thinkin' either RF or Bleed Cyclone. Gonna want to do FRoSS again though, so maybe not BC. Could leaguestart with zombies and then pivot, maybe?

[normal hedge]

farming the divines is easier than dropping svallin

[spice pecan]

bleed cyclone? that has to be gen cry right?

[heady cliff]

life stack RF scavenger

[spice pecan]

no way you're going crimson dance bleed chadclone

[potent bramble]

I'm sure there's another way to do it, but I havent' actually looked

[spice pecan]

you'd ideally want something to proc a massive phys hit for a good bleed

[normal hedge]

people really wait phrecia to play rf?

[spice pecan]

idk if shockwave or gen cry would be better in that regard

[normal hedge]

[spice pecan]

rf scav is sick

[native abyss]

[spice pecan]

you get 100% phys to fire AND 100% explode

[normal hedge]

yeah but you can play it in every league

[spice pecan]

not 100% phys to fire

[normal hedge]

you can just not for so cheap

[spice pecan]

they nuked phys taken as in 3.25

[normal hedge]

you can still reach 100% phys taken as fire

[spice pecan]

how?

[normal hedge]

just need a mirror sublime

[spice pecan]

lol

[hexed mountain]

scav gets 80% phys to fire with cloak and 100% with dawnbreaker

[spice pecan]

yeah lemme just play poison kbolt rq

[thick goblet]

svallinn might be available cause settlers will be on idols now
might get some stupid starfall crater chance or something

[spice pecan]

just lemme get uhhhh

this osin rq

[potent bramble]

I probably wouldn't do RF to endgame, just to early/mid-tier maps to get some currency and work on getting gear for the builds that I'm more excited about. RF is like the safety net - it's nearly impossible to make it bad, so you just keep it as the fallback buid if something bricks on accident

[spice pecan]

from what i see ppl complain about, it doesnt seem to be crater chance, it just seems to be the knight drops like 3 gold 97% of the time

but yeah

[normal hedge]

i'm not saying its not fun, 100% explode is sick, especially for breach

[spice pecan]

you're going to make me open a fourth pob window huh

why do you treat me so poorly

[surreal musk]

converting ele to chaos isnt hard without osin nowadays, 50% from lycia and 50% from a foulborn blue/red/green nightmare

[spice pecan]

that isn't the only thing osin does but sure yeah

[potent bramble]

I was thinkin' about doing a 100% strength-to-minions build with Baron and Puppeteer's Rotting Might

[spice pecan]

assuming you're playing an asc that can take a bloodline

(i aint taking a bloodline on jugg that's for sure)

wait which jewelry node do you take on rf scav lmao

there's like three that are decent

[potent bramble]

Wait wait wait, dumb question. SRS - they can't be targeted by enemies, right? Their 'health' is just a timer and they despawn when they run out? Does that count as dying?

[spice pecan]

tainted pact + golden rule; zerphis heart for ignite prolif off of obliteration pops; death rush obviously

[hexed mountain]

zerphi's heart and do the forbidden rashkaldor tec

[spice pecan]

yeah i was thinking that too

[hexed mountain]

just keep a bossing amulet for pinnacles to quick swap

[spice pecan]

or run penance mark i guess right

[spice pecan]

i know that with enemies that spawn SRS, you can't target nor damage them

so i would maybe assume it's the same for player SRS?

[potent bramble]

I wonder. B/c Puppeteer (unless they change it) gets 50% strength to minions, 20% life as extra max ES for you and minions, and minions spread Caustic Ground on death, for 30% of max life as chaos damage per second.

Taking literally just the ascendency nodes and putting a Baron on, lvl 20 SRS of Enormity has 9k life and 1800 ES. Zombies would have 11.5k life and 2300 ES (or 'of Slamming' for 8.3k/1600)

[hard cliff]

yes it would

[potent bramble]

Which means I'm guessing that it'd be very possible to build out a slightly twisted version of a normal STR stacker

[hard cliff]

spiritual aid to cycle over flow

[potent bramble]

Might just be a thing. I'll have to dig further and see if someone already made one/if I can put something together that'll be fun to play

[elfin shale]

How tanky are Penance Mark guys

Can they take multiple hits or are they gonna crumple like a white mob

[finite quail]

god I need some fucking patchnotes for phrecia already

https://tenor.com/view/dude-cat-haircut-hair-cut-gif-2602970634850568274

[nocturne maple]

they have like 20k hp iirc

[tall belfry]

White mob yeah

[elfin shale]

lame

Man Crucible sounds fuckin sick

[tall belfry]

No mods or rarity multis so they are basically white skeletons of your map tier

[tall belfry]

Huh why?

[elfin shale]

Means i need to go Low Tolerance poison for this

I mean in general im sure its fine

[tall belfry]

Oh lame for jankshit

Understood

[elfin shale]

Yeah

[golden moat]

the real question, what mods does GGG considers as brick mods.. cuz if 60% reduced recovery rate makes it thru, bye bye RF builds unless ur absolutely kitted

[heady cliff]

60% might be survivable for RF

they are not scaled

[golden moat]

charge steal has to be a brick mod

otherwise ud need to walk into maps with ralakesh

[heady cliff]

why would it be?

[golden moat]

why is charge steal a brick mod?

[heady cliff]

yep

[golden moat]

why isnt it?

[heady cliff]

why it is?

[golden moat]

not rly

[heady cliff]

if you have 90% max fire res and that fire res mastery, it might be

[golden moat]

not rly unless ur very kitted

like i said

[heady cliff]

granted, i have not used RF on a real RF build, but on a normal 90% res build it was roughly neutral with slightly scaled 60%

think about it - 90% res means that you take 10% damage, and if you have only 40% recovery left - that is equal to 10/0.4 = 25% damage, and this is exactly the normal 75% res RF

if you can run 75% res RF, you can run 90% res 60% recovery RF

same thing

[hard cliff]

fuck it I'mma cook

[heady cliff]

....what hunger does to the people...

[hard cliff]

What can I run if my auras are disabled ?

Blood and Sand

[heady cliff]

harolds

[hard cliff]

I have that on deck brother don't you worry

[thick goblet]

arctic armour, tempest shield

[elfin shale]

Is it worth using any of the Fenumus uniques on Servant

Im kinda eyeing Weave for the flat

Or Spinnerets for the ES on hit since im pretty sure thats really good

Though 25% move speed kinda cring

[pseudo axle]

why did no one TELL ME THERE'S A BLOODY MONSTERS CAN'T BLOCK MASTERY

[hard cliff]

how do I scale minions if I ran out of minion increased damage nodes

[pseudo axle]

oh my god I am going to make so much money off big bomb expeditions now

I'm also tempted to get stranglegrasp now

ughhhhhhh but new league

[spice pecan]

league mechanic was F tier, the items it produced were certainly S tier in some cases

[true falcon]

Expedition friends :)

[pseudo axle]

crucible made some absurdly wild GG things

[spice pecan]

imagine channeling verisium, still getting oneshot, but then having to go run thru a silo with no mobs to finish it

that was crucible

[true falcon]

Ward needs more love

[spice pecan]

yeah there's a reason the majority of mirror tier weapons in std are crucible

and why no one gives a fuk about haunted wands

or return proj reaver swords

[pseudo axle]

I want them to bring back crucible

[spice pecan]

make the process of doing the mechanic not absolute ass, and sure

[pseudo axle]

oh yeah I mean I'm not an animal

[true falcon]

Crucible bases for Uber/endgame+ like synth bases?

[pseudo axle]

I want mechanics that feel good to run

crucible bases have mini skill trees attached

[spice pecan]

what do you mean

crucible weapons blow everything else out of the water

[pseudo axle]

some of the bases get wild

we're talking mods that synth bases can't even come close to replicating

imagine if uniques had an additional ascendency

its that good

[hard cliff]

My build is Armor/ES and I need a 4g wtf 😩

[pseudo axle]

don't get me wrong I think that is absurdly cool and I wish more games gave us that kind of power

meanwhile this league we got reworked breach no one asked for

and foulborn uniques are like, okay

solid

[pseudo axle]

but they're not crucible-tier

[spice pecan]

this costs 1200d to mirror in std btw

<@&174997701513969665>

[true falcon]

I wish maps breaches stayed the same and they added everything else

[spice pecan]

nvm ty

[heady cliff]

go new league and run instakill expedition strat

[pseudo axle]

oh you can make crucible bases synth too lol

[heady cliff]

no build needed

[pseudo axle]

oh I will yeah

I'm just talking about right now, i'm doing Tzar Bomba Expedition

[spice pecan]

but yeah these crucible weapons that managed to get triple synth

[heady cliff]

i wish ggg deletes walled breach on normal maps for phrecia

[spice pecan]

just absolutely blow everything else out of the water

[pseudo axle]

walled breaches are so annoying

hate them

[spice pecan]

i also fucking hate the walls in all new breaches

[pseudo axle]

the 'new' old breach is like, fine, and I enjoy it over old ones

[spice pecan]

having to make sure i clear every little wall just so i can get the most kills during a wave enc

is dogshit

[heady cliff]

yeah, new old one is nice

[spice pecan]

i love the new old one 100%

getting fat rares or a pseudo pinnacle at the end is gucci

[pseudo axle]

I avoid doing walled breaches

[spice pecan]

but i really have to force myself to do the other ones

[pseudo axle]

hive fortress is annoying but like

it drops enough loot to where I don't feel like its a complete waste

[true falcon]

Worst part about phrecia is going to be getting a breach block idol

[pseudo axle]

especially in scarab/harby strats

breach idols were removed

[elfin shale]

Clusters

[true falcon]

Well fuck