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[split maple]

Unless we get % crater chance idols ggg pls hire me

[finite quail]

https://pobb.in/WPrPDLZ9Ncu-

There might be a couple things fucked in it that I might have forgotten about

like that mom shit

I forgot to respec that

kek

[spice pecan]

5 gems in helm yeah

[finite quail]

temporary fix

Its just for lifetap on the chaos golem

[spice pecan]

word

[finite quail]

Not really necessary

[past mantle]

[stoic horizon]

[wispy comet]

are people going to be delving at all in phrecia? maybe i shouldn't plan around aul bloodline

[stoic horizon]

some will

[finite quail]

probably not

[finite quail]

yummy

[fickle glen]

Too busy dressing up as Batman and beating up thugs

[past mantle]

(The life cost is not real, just a pob issue but still funny.)

[finite quail]

wow holy fuck its 7 am

Ive been on pob theorycrafting for like 4 hours straight

[stone wing]

You might have the autism

[finite quail]

https://pobb.in/HHAvAlE0XZJe

Look at what I cooked up

[stone wing]

Noice

[finite quail]

On a semi affordable setup

Except maybe the ff combo? dunno if thats expensive but I doubt its much

And if it is, I have backup options

I forgot to include grafts oops

[tranquil sedge]

i think that's a safe default assumption of every poe player

[past mantle]

All F/Fs have higher value in phrecia so they might be a bit more expensive due to low supply.

Only 20 days for supply isn't thaaaaat much.

[tranquil sedge]

-# and many other games too

[tranquil sedge]

is that the best place to get shock avoid, on quiver?
coz ur getting way overcap coz of bow
is there not a better mod to use there instead

[storm fern]

is there some crafting service still ?

[tranquil sedge]

crafting services are not in this discord

but crafting help? sure

#1┃crafting-advice or #2┃crafting-advice depending on wat game ur playing

[storm fern]

i mean i have 4 link helmet need to change the colors

[tawdry olive]

you dont need "service" for that, you can just chrome it yourself

if you're trying to get red on an int base or something, use the benchcraft tech

[tranquil sedge]

can chrome orb or use your own crafting bench to change the colors yourself yea 😮
wats the issue

[storm fern]

oh ok ty

[tranquil sedge]

what helmet is it

wat colors do u need

[storm fern]

i did it xd

[tranquil sedge]

https://siveran.github.io/calc.html useful resource if ur ever wondering how many chromes it would take to do something

[storm fern]

gold rim

thx :))

[silent leaf]

ggg please make the event 30 - 60 days

i dont even give a shit if they push 3.28 for this

[umbral crag]

You know they wont coz it'll clash with their poe2 baby.

[hybrid harness]

60 is reaching lol but a month would be kewl

[umbral crag]

Unless they push to 90 days kekw

[silent leaf]

such as chayula

a man can dream

[tranquil sedge]

@opal ingot just fyi btw me and esm were talking about how the leaguestarting experience of mfa whisperer in phrecia

i think ur planning to play the build based on the chat yday but just fyi you may really want to think about starting kboc whisperer or something else and transition into mfa later as an option too btw

i know i told u the early leaguestart experience was rough but looking over some of my earlier chats it was really rough for the first 2-3 days at phrecia start (i was literally farming harvest in t10-12 maps for a day or two to get strong enough to indigon swap and push higher lol, after that it become smooth ye), and that wasn't an uncommon sentiment

so just keep that in mind ig

[spice pecan]

i never even saw the mfa build in phrecia, what skills does it play

[tranquil sedge]

lightning arrow spender
mfa storm rain of conduit main dps

[opal ingot]

i have a buddy too who league started mfa whisperer and he regretted it cuz it was so clunky until he went back to kboc

[spice pecan]

interesting

[tranquil sedge]

mfa rain of arrrows of saturation + scourge arrow of menace or frenzy, as extra 4 link for mana leech.

[spice pecan]

bow builds were are a mistake

[opal ingot]

dw though if i for some reason force to mfa whisperer instead of kbocing i wont blame you for the clunkiness

[tranquil sedge]

the ceiling on mfa is without a question insanely fucking high

[opal ingot]

hey dont slander bow builds

[tranquil sedge]

like, many mirrors

[opal ingot]

i started with bows

[tranquil sedge]

but early experience is rough ye

[opal ingot]

its my first love

[spice pecan]

i wonder if bleed bow is playable in phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

its not clunky tho tbh

like it was never about clunk

you just felt really weak

[finite quail]

There isn't afaik

[tranquil sedge]

for how much u spent on it, you felt weak as shit, compared to people who spent less

[tranquil sedge]

boots

essence mod

• implicit

u can cap shock off boots alone

or an abyss jewel for up to 40% or 50% idk

[spice pecan]

abyss jewel, flask suffix

[tranquil sedge]

or a flask suffix ^

[finite quail]

no slot for jewel sadly

Boots I could maybe do

I'd have t check later

I'm in bed now

[opal ingot]

ahh

[finite quail]

[tranquil sedge]

u had ppl spending way less than u on kboc and chilling

meanwhile u were struggling ur way up

so it definitely felt not great

i definitely thought about rerolling until day 3

[spice pecan]

indigon finna be pricy

i would recommend stealing one

[tranquil sedge]

i just sucked it up and farmed late yellows doing harvest every map until i could afford some better gear

after that it was smooth as fuck

no regrets that i stuck with it 😄

[opal ingot]

its a good thing you held on, i also felt the same way when i swapped way too early to CI early 3.27

[tranquil sedge]

but in hindsight
starting kboc woulda been smarter

[opal ingot]

keepers is 3.27 right?

[tranquil sedge]

ye

[spice pecan]

yes

[umbral crag]

Ahh the memories of managing ramp on mfa on my second league as a noob

[tranquil sedge]

i leaguestarted pconc of bouncing in 3.26 lol and it felt a bit off too i didn't build it very well

but a combination of being stubborn and grinding harvest can fix so many problems

stubbornness ftw

[umbral crag]

Fr

[finite quail]

aight stealing yours

[spice pecan]

i aint got one

[finite quail]

Whenever you get one

[umbral crag]

Idk what inspired me to do mfa build as my second league lmao. I think thats 3.24? And then it got nerfed in 3.25 iirc?

[finite quail]

I will be there to steal it

[ocean field]

guys any solutions to bladefall of trathus sucking you dry when using fross

[tranquil sedge]

when battlemage's cry got changed to no longer provide its spell damage buff to attacks

that's when mfa died tbh

that was 3.25 yea

[umbral crag]

Yeah i rmb that

[tranquil sedge]

im honestly sad that the whisperer spell damage to attacks node didn't come back as a bloodline ascendency ngl

like not even from aul or something

[umbral crag]

It was not a fun experience trying to make it work as a newbie rofl

[ocean field]

I lose 11% es per sec + 780 ES/s from the skill itself which will kill me within 7 secs.

[tranquil sedge]

i enjoyed the build tho like just staying semi ramped the entire map felt fun

[umbral crag]

Yeah, but took me a very long time to understand that kekw. Didnt help that i didnt know how to efficiently farm currency being new and all, somehow still scrapped by

[tranquil sedge]

connor's video was such a fucking godsend dude

the one where he explained exactly this thing

[umbral crag]

Bible ahahah

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mjQAD9oF5U

[spice pecan]

based

[umbral crag]

I was so ready to redo the build in 3.25 once i understood more but nop kekw

[tranquil sedge]

yea one day man

[umbral crag]

And then i missed the 3.25 phrecia

[tranquil sedge]

if battlemage's cry comes back first thing im doing is leaguestarting venom gyre

[umbral crag]

Guess its my calling this phrecia league

[tranquil sedge]

i played that in 3.23 and it was so fun

[umbral crag]

Tho tbh the herald hoag looks interesting too

[tranquil sedge]

i had the influenced warlord hunter helm at the time, str stacking jugg venom gyre

i wonder how you'd play it now with battlemage's cry nerf

crown of eyes maybe? idk

[umbral crag]

Thats rough

[tranquil sedge]

would also need a way to generate rage which was solved with the wildwood ascendency back then

[tranquil sedge]

yea

[umbral crag]

Trying to rmb what i did 3.25

[tranquil sedge]

his flappy bird explanation and the realization that you can just lower ur lightning arrow gem levels and ur dps literally does not change, that's wat made it click for me

[umbral crag]

Msoz defo, and im not sure if i did cocdd in 3.23 or 3.25

[tranquil sedge]

mm msoz

if foulborn goes core i think msoz will be even more fun in 3.28

[potent horizon]

Scavenger sounds interesting

[tranquil sedge]

coz you'll be able to get an extra couple thousand ish life

[potent horizon]

Wait I've decided

Archietech of chaos and ima go vaal cold snap

[umbral crag]

Ah shiet i can't play during phrecia league start

Sadge

[spice pecan]

i should maybe do a wintertide brand unascended witch practice run or some shidd

[past mantle]

How?

[tranquil sedge]

i can but im still skipping it :/

3 weeks is not enough to enjoy it properly

i dont wanna start smth and not be able to finish it to its fullest

[spice pecan]

i would be very surprised if they dont extend it

to be quite honest

[potent horizon]

I just finished this and its quite fun

[tranquil sedge]

even if they do its useless to me unless i know that now

before it starts

like i have to plan in advance if im playing lol

[spice pecan]

quit job sell house sell spouse grind 31 hours a day

its really just that simple

[tranquil sedge]

the least they coulda done is extend it to at least the end of 3.27 honestly like even an extra 1 or 2 weeks would be massive in phrecia

[spice pecan]

unascended witch? how was it

or rather were there any pain points

[past mantle]

Lawyer up, hit the gym.

[spice pecan]

im allergic to gyms/working out but pog

[tranquil sedge]

as it stands rn if they don't change their release schedule now
poe1 3.28 will be in late feb/early march
poe2 0.5 will be in april

extending phrecia would push 3.28 release date further, which will be a no-go

it's gonna be a joke lol

connor's video goes a bit more in depth about their release schedule fuckery rn

[spice pecan]

i mean they still have time to extend phrecia before march 13th or march 6th, whenever the league drops

[tranquil sedge]

idk at all man like are they worried people will get cannibalized from 3.27 into phrecia or something

[past mantle]

They confirmed 3.28 is early march.

[tranquil sedge]

or that ppl started making plans to migrate loot from phrecia into keepers? etc

[spice pecan]

i dont think they give a fuck about 3.27 to be honest

lol

[tranquil sedge]

ur right, i forgot that, but the rest of it is the same

[spice pecan]

or at least keepers

[tranquil sedge]

which is just all the more reason to push phrecia right up to 3.28 lol

[past mantle]

Also why would extending an event do anything to dig into when 3.28 releases?

And their point was about poe2, not 3.28.

[finite quail]

wintertide brand elementalist is actually very satisfying to play

[spice pecan]

yeah exactly, thats why im saying they'll more than likely extend it

[tranquil sedge]

if 3.28 launches too close to 0.5 then poe1 is competing with poe2 for player attention

as it is right now its barely looking like it'll be a bit over a month gap, not even the 2 months they originally wanted

[finite quail]

The dot clears through enemies like a hot knife through butter

you hover over tanky rares and their health goes down so smooth

[spice pecan]

the only thing that scares me about wtb is the single target damage

[finite quail]

I killed ubers on mine

The damage is fine

[past mantle]

What does extending the event have to do with that when we already have a confirmed date for 3.28 before the event was announced?

[tranquil sedge]

and if they only extend till 3.28 starts yea then it doesn't matter
i was thinking the 30-60 days the guy u had originally replied to said

mb i coulda been clearer about that

[spice pecan]

i really dont want to have to press cold snap and frost bomb for single target LUL

[finite quail]

But you have to do your konami code of buttons

(hydrosphere and frostbite)

that's literally

it

and recast wtb a few times many

[spice pecan]

how does hydrosphere interact with wtb

[past mantle]

I think it's more that the guy just wanted to whine about poe2.

[spice pecan]

does the aoe on the brand hit it?

[finite quail]

exposure

[spice pecan]

i see

[finite quail]

Hydrosphere makes enemies in its range drenched

aka 10% cold and lightning exposure

you use that will the +25% exposure from elementalist

[spice pecan]

i'm hoping owen does an update for the bog shaman wtb build

[finite quail]

and you also proc preserving stillness tulgraft that way

[finite quail]

bog shaman wtb?

Why

Sounds painge

[spice pecan]

owen played it as bog shaman in phrecia

[past mantle]

Oh right, I could play bog shaman for a dotcap build easily.

[finite quail]

How was it

[past mantle]

Hmmge...

[spice pecan]

no idea, I played kboc whisperer

[finite quail]

Was it with rathpith

[spice pecan]

but it does some weird shit with CI and needing life regen

[past mantle]

Dot rathpit didn't exist back then.

[finite quail]

Oh man now I wanna make another theorycraft pob...

[spice pecan]

and running cwdt setups

[finite quail]

bro

wintertide brand

[spice pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOQ7i75k_E

[past mantle]

Ah right, inc to damage scaling it's dot.

[finite quail]

I'll have to take a look at it later

[spice pecan]

it makes some funny things happen

[finite quail]

did I miss something or did he not take the recover es when taking phys dmg mastery

[spice pecan]

looks like he takes reduced effect of curses on the armor/es mastery

maybe you don't need it with all the weird recovery stuff that's going on tho

[whole bluff]

<1 life remaining

[frigid wedge]

i love low life ci

[spice pecan]

it actually is low life CI lmao

[frigid wedge]

is it forced via belt

[spice pecan]

ye, cowards legacy

[whole bluff]

Just a % degen will do that afaik

[whole bluff]

Ah

[spice pecan]

which is probs why it took reduced curse eff over recover es for the mastery

[spice pecan]

it runs a doryani's lesson cluster to leech ele damage as life lmaooo

[whole bluff]

Technically you don't go LL for degening % on CI afaik, but it will look like it

[spice pecan]

this build is so funny

[whole bluff]

What happens is eventually you just die if you don't recover life

[spice pecan]

it's like cws, cwdt, LL, CI, and brands all in one

[frigid wedge]

why

[spice pecan]

because it has life degen from bog shaman

[whole bluff]

I'm going spellslinger ignite soon

Flame Surge of Combusting + WoC or something

[frigid wedge]

cast when sob

[tawdry olive]

😭

[frigid wedge]

cast when death threat

[spice pecan]

CastWhilePukingSupport

ggg when

[leaden mural]

I’m confused about the grasping vines node. Do the vines go on the player?

[spice pecan]

nature's patience?

from the unique cluster?

[leaden mural]

so the vines also effect you? or am I reading this wrong?

[spice pecan]

no that looks like you inflict them on enemies

[leaden mural]

yeah but it says 10 vines can grasp you

[crystal talon]

It is just explaining the effect of grasping vines. This specific source doesn't apply to the player

[spice pecan]

i think it's just weird wording in pob

[frigid wedge]

those go on enemy

[crystal talon]

So it would lower the enemies movement speed

[proud gorge]

that's because normally grasping vines is only something enemies inflict

but in this case you inflict it

[leaden mural]

5 vines kind of a lot though if you are clearing trash, won't it not get to 5 stacks?

[frigid wedge]

its just a streamlined version of vinespike cordial+inex fate

so yes

[proud gorge]

yes, it's not for trash

[frigid wedge]

it sucks for clear

[leaden mural]

yeah makes sense

so basically 5 hits poison happens

[frigid wedge]

unless ur spark in toxic sewer

[leaden mural]

damn really liked the plant build in poe 2, was thining maybe cook something similar

[frigid wedge]

theres toxic rain?

spore pods w chaos dot

[dapper fractal]

]

he said it for 100d

[leaden mural]

yeah but even path of evening said TR not really good this league and I love TR but if that dude says not to play it, I will listen he is kind of crazy for the amount of hours he has on it throughout all the metas

[spice pecan]

that's a bruh moment

[hybrid harness]

as long as he's unmuted before phrecia, worth

[spice pecan]

i have a screenshot of a dude with that word in his character name

he accidentally linked something in global

[frigid wedge]

tr hits 18m dps fully optimised and suddenly stops gaining dps

[dapper fractal]

can confirm

TR player here

but its lowkey fine

18m dot dps is lowkey not bad

considering ur pf ur super comfy and tanky

[leaden mural]

yeah

[dapper fractal]

31m is the dot dps

[frigid wedge]

yeah its not bad i just find it funny

[leaden mural]

for sure I have played it, I enjoy it

[spice pecan]

if im not dot capped on 100% deli 65000 depth aul with uber pinnacle DR, i dont want to play it

oh and also with 7400 div cards on the boss

[leaden mural]

but that being said, there is prob a lot of stuff I have not played, its ok if TR is not blasting for phrecia for me

[brazen vector]

Ghosted

[frigid wedge]

what r u actually lookin for

[brazen vector]

And essences

[frigid wedge]

titanic

[brazen vector]

And avoid poison map mod

[leaden mural]

we were just talking about plant stuff, idk honestly I am in pob trying to cook up something fun

[frigid wedge]

ah

plant

[leaden mural]

I really want a bosser honestly, I never really focus bosses thought with ascendancies could do something fun

[frigid wedge]

scourge arrow

plant

[spice pecan]

plant + rain alkLFG

[hybrid harness]

I'd love the plant and storm skill in poe1

[leaden mural]

also wildspeaker just gets 100% spell suppression? That seems kind of wild

[shadow socket]

reduced effect though

majorly reduced effect

[leaden mural]

hmm

[shadow socket]

its good for acrobatics

[brazen vector]

On top of nerfed suppression

[shadow socket]

yeah 40 to 25 is yikes

[leaden mural]

I just feel like that node saves a lot of passives

but idk

[frigid wedge]

it does

it also harms one of ur few available defensive layers in the ranger area tho

quite massively

[limpid prairie]

How much is a Rune graft of the warp? price ranges from 5C to 3Div also
only 30 in trade? and none instant trade?

whats going on

[leaden mural]

can also grab tailwind also

[spice pecan]

runegraft of the warp should be like 1c

[leaden mural]

seems like a solid ascendancy

[frigid wedge]

lack of supply and ppl tend to just dump em

[limpid prairie]

Mmmh mmh good news

[spice pecan]

they're on faustus

[frigid wedge]

also it's probably the most frequently used ones so

[spice pecan]

that and fortress yeah

[split maple]

i think i can into that MFA bait https://pobb.in/N-KXcOC2Z_Gt

[limpid prairie]

Oh! now that makse sense

[frigid wedge]

any joy w ur build

[frigid wedge]

why is la a 5 link

[crystal talon]

where foulborn choir

[split maple]

coz conner had it as 5l and i am too lazy to think

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[spice pecan]

where's your anomalous awakened divergent original sin of kalandra

[split maple]

in keepers and i cannot migrate stash to phrecia

[crystal talon]

What?

[graceful sable]

5L’s fine early.
Laziness is efficient sometimes.

[split maple]

i am not going to farm fbl choir in 20 days 😄

too much other stuff to do

[limpid prairie]

Mmmh... clear ability dmg kinda sucks

[frigid wedge]

what skill u pick for clear

[limpid prairie]

i try ice spear, and frost bomb neither of them reach 1M dmg

[graceful sable]

Clear with something wide and cheap.
Ice Spear is for single target only.

[spice pecan]

ice spear of splitting has decent clear

[frigid wedge]

yeah thats fair

freezing pulse clears well maybe?

[spice pecan]

freezing pulse is kinda mid for clear

doesn't work with return very well either sadly

[graceful sable]

Freezing Pulse works because it hits wide.
Damage numbers matter less for clear.

[limpid prairie]

It also has to be on a trap so i dont know how well itll work

[frigid wedge]

ice trap with aoe is p good

[spice pecan]

can you still nest totems inside of traps/mines?

hmm, nothing technically says you can't

[limpid prairie]

you can!

there is a note in the wiki

[spice pecan]

i figured they might have removed that after crucible

[frigid wedge]

u can ppl just don't bc u cant crucible bomb anymore

[spice pecan]

yeah

[limpid prairie]

Traps and Totems: When Trap is linked in combination with the
Blastchain Mine Support
and
Spell Totem Support
or
Ballista Totem Support
gems, the result is a skill that throws a mine. When the mine is detonated, it throws a trap. When the trap is triggered, it summons a totem, which then can cast the linked skill. Players cannot create traps that throw mines, or totems that throw mines or traps.

[graceful sable]

Trap/Mine replaces the cast.
Totem replaces the cast.
You only get one.

[frigid wedge]

the mod itself is gone and iirc totem life had some xhsnges

[spice pecan]

wait does nesting totems allow you to bypass totem limit?

or how did they get 30 totem limit back then

[frigid wedge]

congrats, u didnt read the skill

[graceful sable]

You’re right. I oversimplified.
Normally you only pick one delivery, but the mine→trap→totem chain is a special-case interaction.

[frigid wedge]

ballistas probably

[spice pecan]

i dont think it used iron commander tho

[frigid wedge]

w iron commander

actually iirc they respected trap limits

https://pobb.in/lw5EqLJwnQ7P heres the one ziz had

looks like traps per throw counted

[spice pecan]

oh that's interesting

[graceful sable]

Ah, that’s the old Rejuv Totem Trap setup.
Yeah, that one abuses per-throw trap counting.
Not how delivery works anymore.

[spice pecan]

is the totem death because of the one totem limit, which is why all but one "die"?

or did they have tech to make all of them burn each other or something

[graceful sable]

Yes.
Extra totems get culled by the totem limit, so only one stays alive.

[spice pecan]

right, i figured that's how it works because selfcurse setups with soul mantle abuse resummoning to trigger totem deaths

[graceful sable]

Same principle, yeah.

[spice pecan]

what skill

[gritty epoch]

consecrated path of endurance

[spice pecan]

incredible, best slam skill

[gritty epoch]

no way i could farm the gears in 2 weeks tho

[ember gorge]

Is it worth it to double corrupt a HH?

[spice pecan]

that depends entirely on how much extra money you have to waste

[stoic horizon]

always

vaal or no baals

[ember gorge]

I have a normal one and a foulborn drop from tree. So im planning to double corrupt one of them

[crystal talon]

Double corrupt both

[ember gorge]

How much does the temple cost again to double corrupt?

[spice pecan]

search for locus of corruption tier 3 on trade

[split maple]

if you care about temple cost you shouldnt dc a hh

[spice pecan]

also that

[split maple]

its 50% to lose it after all

[ember gorge]

We gamble eventho we care about the cost

[magic tangle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3897345 Is the mystery box not out on POE 1 yet?

[limpid prairie]

How do you land a frost bomb of forthcoming with 10 seconds of duration? i think maven is not going to stay put xd

[crystal talon]

just make aoe size of arena

[split maple]

idk how much time maven needs to fuck off to other side of area, but feels quite long

maybe 10sec is doable 😄

[limpid prairie]

Right?

but awakened AOE is too expensive

and i kinda run out of points

to invest in AOE

[split maple]

how many jewels do you have empress?

[proud gorge]

I think the best way to generate AoE is through light radius stacking, right?

[split maple]

since each jewel is potentially 5% aoe

[ember gorge]

Rather than worrying about cost of temple. Im more worried that ill die

[proud gorge]

though that would probably require a significant change to the entire build

[spice pecan]

light radius stacking bad anyway

[limpid prairie]

2 slots maybe 2 more if i use a large cluster wich could also help the point situation

[proud gorge]

I was using double Foulborn Void Batteries on my LC Orb of Storms

but that's only like 3% per power charge

[limpid prairie]

here look https://pobb.in/HyFQboZWu5di

[proud gorge]

so with two Foulborn Void Batteries and 9 power charges, that's only like 54% AoE

66% if you had 11 power charges

but that gets very expensive

[split maple]

idk shit about that build but not slaping unnatural instinct somewhere in scion area feels wrong 😄

[proud gorge]

on the other hand Forbidden Power also gives 6% AoE per power charge

so if you combine double foulborn void battery with Forbidden Power you get like 108% AoE at 9 power charges

[limpid prairie]

i agree i have to keep playing with the tree its very awkard though cause like you get giga recoup from the scavenger but health costs a lot to scale in the shadow area

[spice pecan]

i wonder if this giga aoe could make cold snap of power playable without woke cascade

[limpid prairie]

whats the break point for small enemies again?

[spice pecan]

uhh

like 5.2m for overlaps on woke cascade i think?

4.7 or 4.8 for regular

at least that's what i remember from impending doom, could be wrong

[limpid prairie]

your right 4.7 its what someone who played it says

[proud gorge]

Frost Bomb of Forthcoming's base radius is 3.3 meters at level 21, and the Maven arena looks to be about 90 meters radius

so you would need around 2,627% increased Area of Effect to have it cover the entire arena lmao

no wait I don't think that's how Area of Effect works

[split maple]

is oshabi or wildspeaker gonna be comfier for bows for that awkward time between campaign and indigon? 🤔

[proud gorge]

okay yeah, they deliberately changed this a while back

[upper shell]

Qn: For the new league, is Herald getting the OG Damnation back, or did they make a mistake in referencing the OG damnation in the ascendency class preview??

[split maple]

its surely not 90 meters, its barely bigger than screen maybe screen and half

and screen vertical is what 6m?

[proud gorge]

so that Area of Effect affects the actual area covered by the skill, rather than modifiers to the radius

[proud gorge]

oh wait I was measuring by "units", not meters

[frigid wedge]

are we looking at csop or frost bomb

[proud gorge]

and one unit is, uh, 0.1 meters

apparently

[split maple]

yea

[limpid prairie]

csnap

[proud gorge]

so 90 units, aka 9 meters

[frigid wedge]

its 4.9

for max overlaps

with cascade

[proud gorge]

on the other hand, like I said, turns out they changed how AoE scales

increases to AoE now modify the amount of actual area covered, not the radius of the AoE

[spice pecan]

yeah i think 4.7 was the old number

that makes woke cascade need what like 5.5 for overlaps then?

[frigid wedge]

u need 384% increased area of effect on awakened cascade to get 4 overlaps for csop

[steel light]

feels like 90% so far for me, either poof or becomes a rare

[ember gorge]

what good can i get from this

[spice pecan]

what's the radius that that ends up being?

[frigid wedge]

4.9m

[proud gorge]

so a 3.3 meter base radius covers an area of... around 34 m^2

And the Maven arena, at a 9 meter radius, covers an area of around 254 m^2

So you'd need around 647% increased AoE for a single Frost Bomb to cover the entire Maven arena

[spice pecan]

theoretically if you know the radius you can apply it to anything that wants to overlap which is why i ask

[frigid wedge]

by like 0.3% aoe

[frigid wedge]

doesnt work

cascade itself also increases spread of circles with inc aoe

so unless both skills have same base aoe its diff every time

[spice pecan]

yeah i know that, still baffled as to why ggg made that choice

[frigid wedge]

unfort

[proud gorge]

647% is a lot lower than 2,700% increased AoE, but it's still pretty significant

[frigid wedge]

where is 647 coming from

[split maple]

emm movement speed during flask effect 😄

[proud gorge]

that's unrelated to what you guys are talking about

I've been trying to calculate how much Increased AoE you need for Frost Bomb of Forthcoming to cover the entire Maven arena

[frigid wedge]

ah

[spice pecan]

it's probably going to involve some conditional stuff

[proud gorge]

and turns out it's around 647% AoE

[spice pecan]

like fanaticism on inquis or the elementalist node

[split maple]

more practically random 2 of these assuming you hit 25% win chance

[proud gorge]

man, I just spent a bunch of div on my FRoSS build, so I feel like I need to make some money on it to justify that spending

but at the same time I do kind of want to play something else instead

[limpid prairie]

practically the Maven never stands on the edge and you can hit her in the edge of he hit box

that should reduce the requirements a bit

[frigid wedge]

wait no

its not 384

its 513

[proud gorge]

well let's see, apparently most boss type enemies in PoE have a radius of around 5 units, or 0.5 meters, so they're 1 meter across

[frigid wedge]

apparently

[brazen vector]

Rounds down

Or up on enemies

[frigid wedge]

thats the minimum required aoe, does it actually round down

[brazen vector]

Idk what youre talking about

[proud gorge]

assuming Maven never has her hitbox outside of the arena, that means that an 8 meter radius Frost Bomb should hit her at all times in her 9 meter radius arena

[tight plinth]

how can you select which minion to explode with bodyswap of sacrifice in pob?

[proud gorge]

8 meter radius is around 201 m^2, so for that you'd only need 491% increased AoE

On the other hand, if you assume Maven never occupies the outer 1 meter of the arena, that goes down to 7m radius needed, requiring only 353% increased AoE

[crystal talon]

you don't. You just set the minion's life as "enemy corpse life" in pob

[tight plinth]

this one?

[crystal talon]

yes

[past rain]

where do fishing rods drop

[tight plinth]

aight cool thanks

[past rain]

heyyyy mr spikey

[crystal talon]

Cabela's

[limpid prairie]

353 sounds almost doable

[spice pecan]

i think its anywhere as long as you wear fairgraves' tricorne

[limpid prairie]

i like that number

[past rain]

fairgraves' tricorne hmm

[split maple]

needs to be unique mob kill too

[proud gorge]

Fishing Rods drop from any unique enemy while wearing Fairgraves' Tricorne

[spice pecan]

oh its only unique mobs

[past rain]

hmmmmmmmm

[split maple]

there are other sources too tho

[past rain]

sooo where to farm

[split maple]

like divcards and inscribed ultis

idk spam some campaign area

[stoic horizon]

ppl did the campaign zone in a8

[normal hedge]

farm ultimatum

you'll farm 500 rods

[stoic horizon]

with lots of unique enemies

[past rain]

aaah

[stoic horizon]

grain gate iirc

[proud gorge]

if you're in campaign, the Grain Gate, since there's a cluster of 6 unique Gemling Legionares

enter from the back of Grain Gate

[past rain]

ilvl doesnt matter aslong as u can get t1 cast speed ye?

[proud gorge]

and then just get really good at parsing the three different layouts

outside of campaign, there's probably a few decent mapping strategies

[spice pecan]

probably the map with the 3 soul linked bosses or w/e

[proud gorge]

to get a map full of rogue exiles and tormented spirits, since those are unique

[spice pecan]

and yeah, put some exiles and ghosts in that bihh

[normal hedge]

bugged ghosted legion then

[spice pecan]

that shit is apparently giga rippy

[proud gorge]

it's got to be the ghosts outside of a guy though

since if they're in a guy they don't drop seperate loot

[normal hedge]

yes you kill lots of them

[proud gorge]

but yeah

that's probably the best way

it just also requires a very good build

and decent investment

whereas Grain Gate requires any build and essentially zero investment

though obviously maximizing movement speed helps a lot

[timid scroll]

have you guys already started thinking what to specialize your idols on?

[frigid wedge]

something i dont run

[past rain]

i specialize in obstetrics

[final kestrel]

what is this 3rd ring slot called

[normal hedge]

yes

[frigid wedge]

friend tried one of my fav atlas strats in last phrecia and he cant get himself to run it anymore bc its sm worse

so ill probably run boxes

[normal hedge]

30 rewards delirium login

[frigid wedge]

bc i don't like them much anyway

[spice pecan]

i'll run tormented spirits

free idols sounds nice

[timid scroll]

i cant decide but im thinking of starting boxes and swapping to scarab farm when i get hh, scarab farm should be insane with additional random map mods

[spice pecan]

maybe play some mf setup

[normal hedge]

you could get 2 ~ 3 invs of scarabs

[sinful warren]

Man I hope they extend phrecia league

[normal hedge]

also scarab flipping is braindead af

[spice pecan]

they absolutely will

[frigid wedge]

either boxes or im running legion with worse spark

and propagation

[timid scroll]

why cant i go to sleep and wake up week later

[frigid wedge]

you can

its called substance abuse problems with melatonin pills

[limpid prairie]

How many stacks of Glorious Madness
do you get on average with 152% debuff rate?

[stoic horizon]

2

but its rng

you can still randomly go to max on one stacks if you unlucky

[frigid wedge]

i feel like there is a better alternative for explode than debuffs

[fathom plinth]

Make Hexblast great again 🥲

[limpid prairie]

I will craft strength on the shield or something so i can swap weapons and remove the boots

[stoic horizon]

witchbane?

expensive thou

and needs cursed

[frigid wedge]

my point was mostly shes going thru the effort to get beacon for explode without using the poison part

so its just boots for explode

[stoic horizon]

yeah no

[frigid wedge]

and a lot of debuffs

[stoic horizon]

if you go beacon go poison

just explode not worth

thats literally the only good beacon for phrecia

cuz no champion for forti stack

[frigid wedge]

honestly beacon on champ was never worth it

best way to use beacon will always be for ward tho

[limpid prairie]

ugh fine but its soooooo boring to use cloak of flame

[grave vine]

How early did they release Phrecia Info Last event?

[tight plinth]

anyone made a decent build yet i can copy?

[frigid wedge]

arent u taking obliteration anyway

[stoic horizon]

slowly over the couse of last week

[split maple]

just ctrl-f guides from last phrecia and pray to gods ascend you picked isnt nerfed 2days before release

[stoic horizon]

but now we know all ascendacies so all they need to send is patch notes

[limpid prairie]

i could use void battery for extra dmg if i use the boots

[frigid wedge]

why not just go asenaths or smth

on glove

[stoic horizon]

which will be at earliest tomorrow if we follow standard patch note release schedule but tbh i doubt

[grave vine]

I actually meant the Balance changes, is it a 2hours ahead of time angle?

[stoic horizon]

nah should be earlier

[grave vine]

Hopefully we at least get the asc updates in a few days

[steady elk]

@tranquil sedge so thanks to your advice im easily clearing t8-9 maps

[frigid wedge]

also if ur scaling cold maybe u could just go herald of ice to add bonus

[steady elk]

how do i keep progressing my gear as i go higher?

[frigid wedge]

by knowing what the problems are and finding the things that fix em

[normal hedge]

cannot wait to play kb again for the 3rd time

kb is the new 3.25 LS

[frigid wedge]

my issue with making builds w just pob is always the lack of feel

if i dont know how my mapping etc feels i wont know what actually causes problems

so i wont know what needs extra care

also im weird and give 0 shits about the actual numbers my build is achieving

if it feels good it feels good

[normal hedge]

[steel light]

how else are people gonna spend mirrors just to fuck up? 👀

[past mantle]

Thats illegal, sorry.

[steady elk]

right now it seems to be movement speed and keeping my tincture on

[stoic horizon]

yes you need to rotate 5 warcries manually or you arent playing the game

true Poe players dont use instilling orbs

[spice pecan]

ok, roofless enjoyer

[stoic horizon]

[proud gorge]

man, this is a ridiculously expensive build for 14m Arc DPS lmao

[stoic horizon]

sounds like arc

[proud gorge]

it's running Crusader influenced Ralakesh's Impatience for Bound by Destiny lmao

[fathom plinth]

Its funny how streamers were like "they should do a phrecia event to fix the release schedule" and here we are a week or 2 later :)

[spice pecan]

well as far as we know, this doesn't seem like it's going to be fixing the release schedule

[fathom plinth]

Ohh

[spice pecan]

they'd have to release 3.28 earlier than planned for that to happen

or delay 0.5, which literally will never happen

[fathom plinth]

Im stoopid lol

I figured they were doing it to push 3.28 back a month

[spice pecan]

nah, this is supposed to end around feb 19, whereas 3.28 is either march 6 or 13th

[fathom plinth]

Yeh wait im confused lol sorry

Was confused*

[split maple]

so either 15 days or 22 days of keepers after phrecia

prolly they gonna prolong it for week or two

[stoic horizon]

man patch notes arent even out yet and im changing my build idea for the 4th time now

[split maple]

well - 2-3 days of standard 😄

[spice pecan]

yeah, i don't know if im 100% set on wintertide brand bog shaman

the build has so many fucking janky moving parts

[stoic horizon]

rn im cooking some surfer bl of orbit mines

[spice pecan]

maybe i make a bosser, but spell totems aren't really very good in phrecia

[split maple]

i didnt leaguestart bows yet ever so i am kinda excited bout this

numbers do look way better than i thought

[spice pecan]

play bleed bow

[stoic horizon]

what you planning?

[spice pecan]

drop a ryslatha from tree on day 3 like I did

[stoic horizon]

mfa?

[split maple]

ehots until indigon then mfa

[normal hedge]

didnt you played mfa last phrecia?

[spice pecan]

conner said he isn't swapping to mfa till like week 2

[split maple]

nah i was doing zenith ancom then

[normal hedge]

oh then maybe it was srev

[barren river]

https://youtu.be/2S0RY2kQ3GM

Chris mirrors a map :(

[split maple]

yea was srev, was pestering him for his early pobs earlier

[normal hedge]

was it a leaguestarter mfa?

[barren river]

I will probably skip Phrecia

[normal hedge]

or kboc

[split maple]

he got stuck in yellows for a tad

[normal hedge]

a

[spice pecan]

mfa was a rough start

[stoic horizon]

yeah mfa isnt an early build

[split maple]

kboc looks like it has ok early story, while mfa without indigon feels pain, even with mind of council

without it barely playable

[normal hedge]

pal said kboc was very smooth in 1st phrecia

[stoic horizon]

even though whisperer helps you set up it earlier

[spice pecan]

kboc takes off hard once you get the toiletbrush wand and fractal thoughts

[split maple]

surely you slap indigon on kboc

[spice pecan]

the latter was like 1-2d on legstart last time

[fathom plinth]

Oo I was just asking about cold dot phrecia builds lol

[spice pecan]

oh yeah

[stoic horizon]

ye but fractal cheaper

[spice pecan]

but you'd go fractal before indigon

[normal hedge]

hopefully patch notes today

[barren river]

what is the toiletbrush wand?

[spice pecan]

piscator's vigil

[stoic horizon]

[normal hedge]

😭 why hit chance with wands is so shitty

[limpid prairie]

Will this work if i use traps?

[spice pecan]

owen's video on WTB bog shaman is really cool, but man, it has a lot of problems to solve and it does it in weird ways

[split maple]

i was both thinking why would you call grace toiletbrush and where were you planing to get it early

[barren river]

wtf is this mod?

[spice pecan]

that would be the toothbrush wand

[fathom plinth]

Ah really? Probably not for me then coz i only have 1500 hours played and completely clueless 😂

[spice pecan]

it's a runescape reference

and a pretty deep one at that

[normal hedge]

its pretty good for fishing meta

ez 99 fishing with inc effect of wishes

[stoic horizon]

yeah ancient fish prints divines

[haughty ermine]

nuh uh, it's a tibia reference

[spice pecan]

piscator's vigil is the name of the wand
piscatoris is the only place in runescape where you can fish up monkfish
the monastery in poe has monks

[barren river]

what about the cooked fish meta?

[stoic horizon]

cant make vaal sushi is you cook

[normal hedge]

need the cooking gauntlets

[storm fern]

is there someway i give some pro player item to make specific socket colors on it and pay him

[barren river]

the way is that you don't ask here

[stoic horizon]

tft discord prob

[spice pecan]

or just ask in global chat ingame

someone will probably help

[storm fern]

couldnt find any . most are 1 month old pm

[normal hedge]

why dont you ask how to fix your item and learn instead

[stoic horizon]

google vorici calculator

[storm fern]

i know how to change the colors but i dont have the orbs

[covert swan]

Socket colour crafting calculator: http://siveran.github.io/calc.html

[storm fern]

but i have a dev orb

[spice pecan]

in the video he says it's probably not a build for newer players, obv that depends on how new you personally feel, but yeah lmao

[normal hedge]

click faustus

[split maple]

so use currency exchange?

[normal hedge]

change divines into chromatic

🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

[storm fern]

hmm how can i make that

[split maple]

or well divine into chaos then a bit of chaos into chromas

[normal hedge]

well

not with 💳

[spice pecan]

yeah, go divine into chaos and then chaos into chromatics

[split maple]

you click i have divine and i want chaos, then i have hcaos and i want chroma

[fathom plinth]

Yee I might just use whatever meta starter is to get currency and stuff then just "wing it" on a witch

[storm fern]

ill try thx 🙂

[barren river]

i want to do fishing meta

[fathom plinth]

So sad I missed out on Hexblast before they killed it

[spice pecan]

hexblast was so sick

[fathom plinth]

:(

[stoic horizon]

played it back in tota

[normal hedge]

is regular fork support bad without this?

[stoic horizon]

awesome build but squishy af

[split maple]

for what skill?

[normal hedge]

kb

[spice pecan]

i assume pbod is still going to be expensive as fuck

because herald stackers and surfcasters

[normal hedge]

crafting gear for it is expensive so

but the juice is real in phrecia

[spice pecan]

hmm

[proud gorge]

man, I was trying to figure out how the fuck this Triggerbots Jiquani Foulborn Kitava's Thirst build is able to sustain its life costs

[spice pecan]

how expensive are perfect crime jewels

[split maple]

idk fubie isnt using fork until woke one and then he isnt using split shot

[stoic horizon]

unless you eblade it, then tree just prints high es bases

[proud gorge]

I think this might genuinely be the thing holding the entire build together lmao

[normal hedge]

oh really?? i thought it was mandatory for legion

[proud gorge]

truly a wild build when you need T1 life gain per enemy killed

in order for the build to function

[split maple]

yea he has in notes that you must not have pierce and fork at same time for some reason and that while fork is better clear pierce is better dmg for some other reason

[steady elk]

i don't understand the logic behind taking battlemage's cry when you have resolute technique? isn't that warcry for critical strikes and the latter makes it that you can't do crit strikes?

[split maple]

i cannot wrap my head around proj mechanics

[split maple]

it triggers linked spell

usually a curse or smh

[steady elk]

ah i see

[normal hedge]

dont you always fork with spellslinger tornado?

[stoic horizon]

if its on autoexert you dont get the crit

[barren river]

throwback to my phrecia build

[normal hedge]

i wonder how long gonna take to the first visage appear

gotta be nuts to farm sanctum instead of maps in phrecia

[proud gorge]

oh hey, fun, this build is running double Circle of Nostalgia despite not having Herald of Agony

[split maple]

wtf hyri bite has vendor recipe

why didnt i know that

[proud gorge]

entirely for the chaos res, attributes, and synth prefixes

[barren river]

it's ded

[proud gorge]

turns out it's a lot easier to find +1 power charge rings when you're fine with equipping just random synth unique rings

I really have no idea how this build sustains its life costs though

[barren river]

i miss you trafficconethief

[barren river]

the joke was that I stole a traffic cone at school, and when I had to name it, someone suggested this

[fathom plinth]

So how do you guys cook without patch notes and pob

[barren river]

mspaint

[split maple]

copy paste phrecia ascendancy into custom config in pob and prayge it dont get killed

[barren river]

or pen and paper

[fathom plinth]

Fire

[proud gorge]

oh wait, this build has a Life on Hit watcher's eye

that'd do it

[fathom plinth]

Is cast on freeze a thing in poe1

Or any trigger stuff

[proud gorge]

No cast on freeze

[fathom plinth]

Oo

Interesting

[split maple]

that new uber bow has smh like cast on freeze i think? but not rly good

[proud gorge]

but we do have Cast on Crit, Cast when Stunned, Cast while Channeling, etc

[fathom plinth]

Oo okay

Oh id love to get a deaths oath build

[split maple]

i think the issue is you cannot freeze frozen enemy or smh like that

so its worse than just cast on crit and similiar

[proud gorge]

makes sense

[fathom plinth]

Interestingg

[barren river]

the bow is shit though

[fathom plinth]

Im drunk af so might hop in to poe1 soon lol

[elder marlin]

glorified stat stick

[fathom plinth]

Ah okay

[proud gorge]

it's also worse than Cast on Crit since CoC has a faster base trigger rate

[fathom plinth]

I just love my sorceress comet cold coc build in poe2 so wondering if I can do smth similar

[proud gorge]

what's CoC's base trigger rate, actually? I think it's like 6 casts a second by default

[split maple]

Just do some mfa + coc thingie instead of that bow yeah

[elder marlin]

technically yes

[barren river]

i can't wait to see the equivalent in phrecia

[proud gorge]

yeah CoC's base trigger rate is 0.15 seconds

compared to that bow having 0.25

and being a more inconvenient trigger condition

[fathom plinth]

You have my attention lol

[proud gorge]

the point of the Phrecia ascendancies is to explore alternative ascendancy options, not to be OP

some of them were OP, but that's more because they weren't particularly balanced, as would be expected from them bringing out like 19 new ascendancies at once

[elder marlin]

cast on crit firestorm is the closest

[proud gorge]

though presumably for Phrecia2 they'll be balancing the ascendancies a bit more

[fathom plinth]

Ah okay I wonder if theres any fire>cold shenanigans lol

Purely fun dont really care about being strong

[eternal hill]

Just play whisperer and have 8k+ hp pool, ez

Dark blue ORB

[elder marlin]

no, also the color wont change

[proud gorge]

in PoE1, damage conversion is directional, so you can convert Phys > Lightning > Cold > Fire > Chaos, but not the other way around

but if you want Icestorm, that also exists

it's just a very different build

[fathom plinth]

Ahh okay, is that why I see original sin builds with melee?

[normal hedge]

is that enough to trigger trinity or fub is lying to me unxdd

[proud gorge]

Icestorm is usually played Cast While Channeling instead of Cast On Crit

[fathom plinth]

Oh like cyclone?

[proud gorge]

yeah, anything can be converted into chaos

[frigid wedge]

go on then

[fathom plinth]

Wait so a cyclone ice storm with original sin maybe lmao?

[proud gorge]

depends yeah, but Cyclone is the typical choice for anything that needs a channel yeah

[pulsar dune]

nah, you wouldn't want osin

[proud gorge]

Original Sin is very expensive lmao

[fathom plinth]

Yee figured

[proud gorge]

I wouldn't pick a build that requires OSin

[frigid wedge]

just get foulborn red dream

[proud gorge]

and on top of that it's probably not a good way to run it lmao

[frigid wedge]

trust me osin had never been less valuable than rn

[pulsar dune]

IDT there are even any osin builds these days

[fathom plinth]

Ahh my main goal in poe1 is to one day farm enough for an original sin lol

[pulsar dune]

the golden charlatan peeps use it

[frigid wedge]

everyone that WOULD be using osin are instead using a 20c jewel

[pulsar dune]

but MSoZ either doesn't use it, or gets the conversion from the jewel

tho it's pretty rough to fit it

[fathom plinth]

But I always wanna try too many builds and end up broke the whole league

[frigid wedge]

osin isnt needed for ur typical osin setup rn

[proud gorge]

I mean, OSin has its uses, but its main functionality these days is the "enemy chaos res is 0" part, not the all elemental converted to chaos part

[frigid wedge]

its part of why im comfortable starting a str stacker for the event

[elder marlin]

also, the ring slot has become more competitive nowadays

[proud gorge]

since there's myriad ways to get all your damage converted to chaos this leauge especially

[frigid wedge]

just get another

[opal ingot]

i cannot wrap my head in any build mechanic

just follow build guide and win

[pulsar dune]

yea, losing a misted helical on a stacker is probably a higher dps loss osin is a gain

[elder marlin]

ah yes, 3 ring on a pathfinder

[frigid wedge]

yeah?

obv

[proud gorge]

welp, time to play this stupid-looking Jiquani Triggerbots Saboteur build

[pulsar dune]

gl

[frigid wedge]

i dont know why tf they thought jiquanis was a good idea

[pulsar dune]

it's fun tbh

[frigid wedge]

at least eblade had a defensive trade off

[pulsar dune]

and not really OP

[fathom plinth]

Yeh i figured its best to choose whatever is "meta" then once I get currency I can play around with stuff, just hope witch gets different ascendancies coz I didnt like any of them last time 🥲

[proud gorge]

I do find it hilarious that the build has a single 6-linked "main" skill on it, CoC Soulrend of the Spiral

and that's not at all the main damage

[pulsar dune]

whispers?

[proud gorge]

it's honestly mostly just there because it can be easily made to cost 200 or more life lmao

[pulsar dune]

Oh

[frigid wedge]

did u see the old double trigger bog shaman

the cwc fr cyclone with cwdt spiral

on tpact

[proud gorge]

I did not, but sounds very silly

[frigid wedge]

it was very effective

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I'm probably not going to be Phreciaing this time

hmm, all my characters this league have been named, like, [Firstname]_[something]blood

Iliana Mistblood, the whispers FRoSS occultist

Dorian Ironblood, the lucky block CWS glad

Verania Sparkblood, the Lightning Conduit power charge elementalist

also briefly Diana Warpblood, the Cast On Portal pathfinder lmao

but it occurs me that, somehow, given that I'm about to build a Foulborn Kitava's Thirst blood magic build that centers around spending enormous amounts of life

[past mantle]

Is that right? I thought freezing reset when you refroze.

[proud gorge]

the most appropriate surname here would probably be something like Bloodblood lmao

or Lifeblood

Lifeblood could work actually, a lot better than Bloodblood

would be more appropriate for a lifestack build though

[split maple]

dunno really its what i was told when i was considering it

[split pagoda]

i wonder what youd play fross on with phrecia ascendancies

has to be scav right

[proud gorge]

anything that's good for stacking ES or chaos DoT

[past mantle]

Will hop on to test it later on then.

[steel light]

just saw Phrecia announcement, it's a separate new league with different classes?

[proud gorge]

it's an event league

similar to the first phrecia

[split pagoda]

yeah scav is pretty good for it tbh

[proud gorge]

so it'll technically be a sub-league of Keepers, in that it'll have all the Keepers league stuff

[split pagoda]

foxshade is rlly nice

[steel light]

i wasn't around, hence trying to understand

[proud gorge]

but with alternate ascendancies and idols yeah

ah

[split pagoda]

then it gives explode and adrenaline ontop of that

[proud gorge]

yeah, the gist of Phrecia is that all the ascendancy classes are replaced with alternate ones

[elder marlin]

maybe they completely rework scav and give her completely different items

[proud gorge]

you can look up the ascendancies from last time

though presumably there'll be some changes

since they did say they'll be doing some rebalancing

[steel light]

it's not link with ur current keeper inventory right? so everything have to start afresh?

[proud gorge]

yeah

I mean, you should be able to earn Keepers challenges though

if that's something you care about

[steel light]

does ur Phrecia currency get carry over to league/standard when it ends?

[proud gorge]

yeah

[split maple]

it goes to keepers first

then when keepers ends to standard

[proud gorge]

it's an event sub-league yeah, so technically it is to Keepers as Keepers is to Standard

[steel light]

redoing campaign

[elder marlin]

🫂

[steel light]

refarming megablood

[proud gorge]

3 week event league

[elder marlin]

no leveling gear too

[split maple]

i kinda wish i had access to stash this one time

cba to farm jewels and shit again 😄

[proud gorge]

I'm gonna go with Ichorblood lmao

[steel light]

if it follows last Phrecia event, it's level to 80 to get all rewards?

[proud gorge]

which is still just bloodblood

but at least it sounds less dumb

[elder marlin]

90

[split maple]

you get one mystery box each at lvl50 and lvl90 first time you do these

[proud gorge]

oh yeah, I guess I should level a character to get the rewards at least

[elder marlin]

im just gonna be a b*tch and play cws

[proud gorge]

even if I don't play the entire league

shouldn't be too difficult to just power level a character

[steel light]

tell me what Phrecia for cws, i don't want to figure it out myself

[split maple]

emiracles already made a video

with ancom

[proud gorge]

Ancestral Commander innit?

Ancestral Commander is a busted ass class

if it's unnerfed from last time

it gets free Defiance

and a bunch of free endurance charges

[elder marlin]

ancestral commander

[steel light]

cws is so comfy

[past mantle]

Anarcho communists????

[steel light]

i think i'll reach 100 after 15 more maps doing gold farming

[elder marlin]

🤝

[past mantle]

Just want them to move death rattle to be 2 points instead of 4 tbh.

[split maple]

i was making that pun now for a year

you are the first one to get it 😄

[past mantle]

Lmao.

[proud gorge]

also it occurs to me that every single build I've played this league has been a spellcaster

even the Duelist

good old Spellcaster league

lmao

[elder marlin]

#makebowergreatagain

[steel light]

vfos is slam not strike right?

[proud gorge]

yeah

[barren river]

what is bower?

[past mantle]

Bows are still good.

[steel light]

i saw the commander asc i thought doesn't those just revert vfos back to pre-nerf if it's a strike

[barren river]

bow builds?

[elder marlin]

squishy af

[past mantle]

You can build those tanky.

Being squishy is a personal and monetary choice.

[steel light]

how many asc points? 8?

[elder marlin]

shield make a huge difference

[elder marlin]

ye

but this phrecia also have bloodline

[proud gorge]

it's a play on the term "Wander" for wand attacking builds

the joke being that this league Wander has been so strong, that bows have lost relevance by comparison

so thus the bow build becomes Bower

[elder marlin]

quivers need buffs, like shields r too strong

[gritty epoch]

ppl who bow

make bows 1-handed

[elder marlin]

true

[proud gorge]

give us Crossbow in PoE1

I want the ability to spray and also pray

[past mantle]

Quivers exist.

[elder marlin]

glorified dmg stat stick

[proud gorge]

I've also said it before, clearly they need to give us a unique Wand that gives a buff on equip that empowers the next six wand attacks, but after using up the six attacks it inflicts "cannot attack" for a second before setting the buff back up to 6

[gritty epoch]

Give offhand to 2h melee weapon

[past mantle]

You can get good defence on quivers too, but why would you when you can use it as a stat stick.

Real.

[proud gorge]

give us the Revolving Wand

[past mantle]

Daggers in the offhand.

[past mantle]

Sounds awful.

[proud gorge]

Revolving Wand smh

[past mantle]

Warcry empowers but bad is probably not the play.

[proud gorge]

just gotta make the buff strong enough

[fathom plinth]

How likely do you think it is for ggg to change the ascendancy nodes for some stuff entirely

[gritty epoch]

Imagine not scaling attack speed on wanders

[proud gorge]

then you get to have two different builds for it, a high attack speed version that "fans the hammer" and then has to reload, and thus is affected the most by the "reload time"

[gritty epoch]

No coz fk behemoth or something

[proud gorge]

and a low attack speed version that gets the most out of every shot

thus being affected the last by the reload time

[fathom plinth]

Ded

[proud gorge]

but in exchange you're playing low attack speed wander

[past mantle]

1s of not attacking sounds miserable. What if an item with the built in t17 mod for not doing damage.

Cannot attack also means no shield charge.

[proud gorge]

oh I guess I did say "a second"

[fathom plinth]

I wanna hop on but idk what to even do lool

[proud gorge]

I meant "a sec" as in an undefined short period of time

lmao

a half second would probably be an appropriate length of time

[gritty epoch]

Unleash support but with attacks

[proud gorge]

hmm, I was about to say "maybe whatever Jhin from League takes to reload"

but apparently Jhin's reload in league takes 2.5 seconds

wack