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silent leaf
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let it happen pls ggg

thick goblet
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triple es + life mastery is less life?

soft perch
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no its more

strong totem
soft perch
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especially cuz u have to click life mastery on life stackers

worldly bridge
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if you dont want to roll life mastery then this is the best outcome

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i thin i would go for life mastery personally

soft perch
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no u want to lol

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life stackers click all life masteries

worldly bridge
soft perch
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theres a 10% more life mastery

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if u have all of them

sacred bane
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would it not be better to get all the es mods cause mine is 1250 as straight es?
nvm

opaque sphinx
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on body armour that is wort h

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on others its worth doign the split

strong totem
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It's not a huge difference on other armour, like 60life if everything is maxed.

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but the life roll is the way on other pieces

empty ivy
steel light
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if u're getting all 6 isn't max life on twilight bad cause u lost 15% life?

strong totem
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yeah don't get life roll on twilight.

opaque sphinx
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on 30 qual warlock for example its 415 es
vs 343 es + 129 life

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like a 60 flat life dif

strong totem
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60-70

elfin shale
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hmmm

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think i might go Daughter of Oshabi

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Having to click the shrines tho VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

strong totem
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the hybrid es/life roll is worth approx 76life

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So crafted life works on a budget

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or if you have es/mana, you should vendor the item

sacred bane
strong totem
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and waste my precious dust and gold? marauderAnger

elfin shale
strong totem
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flying under the radar

elfin shale
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whats the wand called

strong totem
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solaris something

elfin shale
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Eclipse Solaris

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holy shit thats a lot of damage

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100 to 250

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Battlemage is wasted though

wooden elm
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@stuck phoenix congrats on mod btw ScuffParty

stuck phoenix
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Ty

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Not that I was aiming for it xddd

hard cliff
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@opaque sphinx

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I'mma cook

cosmic eagle
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finally the best event ever happened on this game is returning

candid moon
stuck phoenix
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Real

candid moon
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Manipulated in to the position

stuck phoenix
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Totally wasn't asked first

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Trueee

stuck phoenix
elfin shale
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Give us back krangled passives GGG

potent bramble
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So obviously I'm going to run a couple builds for this... the question is which builds. FRoSS was a great time in Keepers, and would have been even better had I been smarter about how to start it. Some sort of minion build is almost obligatory... and ???

cosmic eagle
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go big and play the proper flicker

potent bramble
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I dunno man, I value my sanity - what little of it I have left, anyway

final owl
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flicker is great, just not for bossing

elfin shale
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hmmmmm

cosmic eagle
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its either a slammer, flicker, minion madness or good ole scav gameplay

elfin shale
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we've gotten the runegraft since the last time we had this

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gotta check the delirium boots

potent bramble
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I do wonder if anyone's gonna try and mix Marauder/Antiquarian's "Kalguuran Armour" with the Olroth bloodline passive "Boon of the River" for crazy ward stuff

final owl
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hard to go past AC cyclone, but I try not to play builds i have played before so idk

cosmic eagle
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in b4 the best build is still gonna be surfcaster

elfin shale
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Unless they nerf it, probably gonna be it

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which i honestly hope they dont and they bring other things up towards it

cosmic eagle
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surfcaster LS in 2026 vaalkek

elfin shale
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hooooly shit Beacon of Madness might be kinda real with Scavenger + Runegraft of The Warp (and stasis prison lol)

hard cliff
crystal willow
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What happen to phrecia characters when the event end guys? Do we keep those ascendancies in standard?

hard cliff
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Should I get warcries ?

crystal willow
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Oh..

potent bramble
drowsy eagle
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what to build with scav

cosmic eagle
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was there a good build for cyclone during phrecia 1?

drowsy eagle
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last time I did hexblast but uhh

cosmic eagle
sage falcon
potent bramble
leaden mural
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chaos dot spiders gonna be a banger

cosmic eagle
drowsy eagle
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man have anyone made an alt ascendancies build index

sage falcon
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usually cores nowadays have more than that

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but sure

spice pecan
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harbinger ascendancy gets runegraft of the warp as a 2 pointer

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which means you can use the graft as well

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beacon of madness harbinger LOGIN

strong totem
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scavenger gets more reduced debuff

spice pecan
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i have a feeling scavenger will get the items shuffled around or otherwise nerfed in some way

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it was the top ascendancy

strong totem
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harbinger needs a buff as well

spice pecan
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yeah

granite nexus
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probs

elfin shale
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I hope Antiquarian gets big buffs

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Its my fav, theme wise

strong totem
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ngl, harb was garbo

spice pecan
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yes, it was not played like at all

elfin shale
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I still cant fucking believe they let Harbinger go live with a max of 1 Harbinger global

spice pecan
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besides some scuffed cursebot

elfin shale
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wait

cosmic eagle
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giving us phrecia because they are trying to test if scav will fit in the main poe league vaalkek

strong totem
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there's no harb guides either

elfin shale
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is that the right one

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yeah harbinger

spice pecan
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it sucks because it literally turns you into a harby once you ascend too

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none of the other ones do cool shit like that

stuck phoenix
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Lul

spice pecan
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you turn blue and start floating

stuck phoenix
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Tbf we don't really have any other such mechanics in the game

spice pecan
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exactly

stuck phoenix
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And Phrecia was always just supposed to be recycled stuff

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So they took the harb map mod and slapped it on for fun

spice pecan
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let us automate summoning the harby allies or something idk

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otherwise it's just a scuffed cursebot

strong totem
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I imagine with a little creativity we can be the harbs that buff our minions and allies

spice pecan
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in an age where groups dont use cursebots

hard cliff
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has anyone found a way to use runegraft of treachery to exclusively buff enemies to make a reverse aura bot?

spice pecan
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it's used with rakiatas

elfin shale
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Or the superior wild strike of extremes kek

spice pecan
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the only aurabot type that uses it is one that wears hand of phrecia

strong totem
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speaking of rakiatas..

spice pecan
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so that only you and link target even get auras in the first place

strong totem
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gambler has a nice rakiata node

sacred bane
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Did they reveal a new league or sum?

spice pecan
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not exactly new

normal hedge
spice pecan
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but a rebalanced phrecia event is coming on the 29th

fickle glen
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How does this item have 4 prefixes? I thought 3 was the max for each mod

strong totem
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the p2 is hybrid

normal hedge
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its a hybrid prefix

spice pecan
fickle glen
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Ohh that says R at the bottom

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What the heck is R mean?

normal hedge
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thats a bench crafted suffix

spice pecan
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my favorite way to spell that word is Rcrafted

stuck phoenix
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Rank

normal hedge
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ruthless

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to remind they dont have it

stuck phoenix
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Xd

strong totem
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cRafted

stuck phoenix
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RRRRRRR

spice pecan
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Raft, the videogame mentioned

worldly bridge
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Recipe

fickle glen
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Got it ty

spice pecan
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joocy

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fucking elixir of the unbroken circle

normal hedge
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did you tried the foulborn weapon

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idk the name

spice pecan
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foulborn tulfall or whatever, the +4 cold one?

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yeah that's probs the play

normal hedge
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ya

spice pecan
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this pob is from owen back in 3.25 tho

normal hedge
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owen?

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is it a content creator?

spice pecan
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yes

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he does wintertide brand videos

normal hedge
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i see

fickle glen
worldly bridge
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What if molten strike of zenith on prophet

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The balls already go in random directions

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Then could go for abyss jewel staxking

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Do corrupted magic abyssal jewels count for adorned

elfin shale
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Only if they're in the passive tree

spice pecan
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msoz was probably just placed on ancestral commander instead with the runecraft for return proj

worldly bridge
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:o

normal hedge
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i dont think you want random direction on ms

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ah

spice pecan
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even without that anymore, i'd still wager you want AC for msoz

normal hedge
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nvm

elfin shale
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It doesnt really matter does it

normal hedge
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with less proj speed no

elfin shale
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wait can you give it giga projectile speed to send the projectiles the distance

normal hedge
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yes

worldly bridge
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Youre on right side so easy slow proj speed

spice pecan
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you want less proj speed

normal hedge
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but then you gonna have 0 single target

spice pecan
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to make the balls hit the same target

normal hedge
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the same issue with rolling magma mines

worldly bridge
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zenith is single target skill anyway

spice pecan
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^

solar smelt
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Lol guess people people can stop asking for phrecia league to come back now

elfin shale
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Does this work with Sandstorm Visage

solar smelt
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Not gonna lie that fracture armor set looks Hella dope, but ugh gacha

hard cliff
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What happens when you use these both at once


Removes all Energy Shield
Gain Maximum Life instead of Maximum Energy Shield from Equipped Armour Items
-3 Maximum Life per Level

Plus ->Your Maximum Energy Shield is Equal to 50% of Your Maximum Life

You just ignore energy shield on gear now and get armour or something cause the FB Ghostwrithe is just feeding you your life back onto itself once at 50% ?

elfin shale
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You have 0 ES

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And however much life

hard cliff
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Does the conversion work ?

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you gain 50% of your life back as more life once ?

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Note that this modifier does not affect conditional or global modifiers; for example,

The Ivory Tower
's +30 to maximum Energy Shield per 100 Reserved Life modifier does not convert the global maximum energy shield (which you cannot gain, as your maximum ES is 0) into life.

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So it doesn't work

elfin shale
fiery marsh
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No

elfin shale
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Its basically ignored

hard cliff
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Thank you

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so you wanna go bog witch apostate ?

fiery marsh
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You can test with CI

hard cliff
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Than get ES on boots and gloves

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that's gonna suck lol

fiery marsh
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Whisperer nerfed 100%

hard cliff
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What if I just get a fuckin

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Hnghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

fiery marsh
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Do they touch scion tho? That shit was strong af too

normal hedge
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i can imagine they're going to shuffle the uniques

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lol

fiery marsh
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We'll have foulborn uniques too

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The biggest issue tho, breach eating random mechanics

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And campaign potentially really hard

hard cliff
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What's the support gem that lets you only do melee elemental damage

fiery marsh
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Idk? There isint one

hard cliff
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Please help me @fiery marsh

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my children need this

worldly bridge
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That doesn’t exist

hard cliff
worldly bridge
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Brutality exists for phys

fiery marsh
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He's thinking of brutality reversed

hard cliff
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ok what's the support gem that boosts melee elemental damage

umbral crag
hard cliff
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🤔

worldly bridge
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Elemental damage with attacks support

fiery marsh
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Yeah

fiery marsh
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Can we roll reflect on maps tho?

worldly bridge
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Nope

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On zones no

fiery marsh
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T16.5s go brrrr

hard cliff
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What the hell is the point of stacking rage and fist of war at the same time

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I guess bosses 😩

fiery marsh
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Lvl 90 free with breach too

hard cliff
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Can I just not fuckin use fist of war

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Is that even legal on slam ?

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98% more damage is insane

cosmic reef
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They're probably not going to balance anything. Just fix totally broken stuff. Like interactions with runegrafts

hard cliff
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awww fuck I need endurance charges

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Goodbye fort

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👋

steel light
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join the cult (caspiro)

fiery marsh
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Whisperer is busted with current kboc

elfin shale
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Non-Aura Curses you inflict are not removed from Dying Enemies

Does this do anything in a vacuum

hard cliff
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Does Eye of Innocence self sustain ?

normal hedge
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wait i forgot about jolt graft

hard cliff
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ohh I can get leech on gloves @normal hedge

normal hedge
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Jolt
42% more Maximum Attack Damage
+56% to Critical Strike Multiplier
14% increased Damage Taken = +20m dps Pogott

stuck phoenix
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It's only relevant because you have something to make curses aura

opal ingot
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wohoo phrecia

normal hedge
stuck phoenix
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From corpses

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Or something

hard cliff
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chat help

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How do I run blood magic auto extert

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:weary

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😩

elfin shale
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dont

hard cliff
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I have too I'm playing a lifestacker

elfin shale
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press your buttons

hard cliff
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Too many buttons to press

elfin shale
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Or Eternal Apple if you can finagle that

hard cliff
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it's not possible

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That's insane

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I am not using this

drowsy eagle
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poeninja doesn't keep phrecia data?

opaque sphinx
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and make ur min 1 less than ur max

hard cliff
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I found a way through

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Stand back and stand by

elfin shale
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What was last league

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Im blanking

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Secrets

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wait no

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mercenary

rancid sluice
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itll be research time for me i missed the first phrecia league

elfin shale
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Do any of the Phrecia ascendancies have an arcane surge gimmick

hard cliff
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https://pobb.in/rkjPKbtqgu6L

I give up I can't find an attack skill to use

Lifestacker bog witch

vapid dirge
steady elk
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How fast do y'all finish the acts typically

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I'm on my second ever character in poe1 and it took me about 18 hours this time

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Firs time took 2 weeks kek

umbral crag
steady elk
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Shieeeet

vapid dirge
elfin shale
rancid sluice
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it all could change anyway so its all just kind of fun theorycrafting at this point

steady elk
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Fast as hell

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What does twink mean?

rancid sluice
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juiced leveling gear

gritty garnet
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2nd character, with currency from the first to make you go faster with levelling uniques

normal hedge
umbral crag
steady elk
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Oh that's dope

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So you can't league start with twinks right?

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Hell of a name too

umbral crag
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Yeah

gritty garnet
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and on your second character you should also skip league mechanisms and lab trials

elfin shale
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@hard cliff
I mightve found tech
Gambler gives you 50% chance to invert res. Foulborn Kiloava's Bluster gives 25%, and mastery gives 15% for 90% chance

rancid sluice
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tbh im boring even with phrecia + foul ill prolly just look if one of my standby skills has a build that works. maybe go crazy on the second

steady elk
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How come?

elfin shale
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They stay completed

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For all characters in a league

steady elk
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So you don't have to do it again in the league?

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Oh that's dope

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Well shit I guess I'm doing more than one character this time

fickle glen
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Whose corpse is this 🤣

hard cliff
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Herald of Agony Herald Witch looks fun

rancid sluice
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the goal is three characters in mirror gear each rocking tides/hh/mb. full on belt enjoyer

elfin shale
hard cliff
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If you play Herald of Agony minion build what would you use to poison ?

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Cobra lash requires a dagger that seems bad for minions

fickle glen
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Is there a way to use that corpse and how?

drowsy eagle
elfin shale
fickle glen
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Oh that’s some witch stuff

elfin shale
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Or Detonate Dead lmfao (dont do this)

rancid sluice
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you 'use' it in hideout and summon the corpse

compact bronze
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How can i make this area black like in some hideouts?

hard cliff
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Arakaali's Fang poisons on hit

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ARAKALI SPIDER HERALD HERALD LOG IN ?!

elfin shale
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Maybe Ethereal Knives

hard cliff
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Lancing steel is a great idea

stuck phoenix
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I forgot the name

hard cliff
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It needs a sword or axe

undone gazelle
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If I wanna run fusillade again but on phrecia what would be good, considering that my amulet and ring slot might be locked by timeclasp and timepiece

stuck phoenix
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but it's just a black cube

elfin shale
hard cliff
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What about this

-Cobra Lash (enables arakali) + GMP + Faster Attacks + ???????

compact bronze
hard cliff
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Can you play arkaali without a squire

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or is that illegal

drowsy eagle
stray sedge
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yeahhhhhhh might try some slammer duelist

stuck phoenix
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I turned blue

drowsy eagle
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I need to delete my message history

stuck phoenix
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xdddd

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I have only bonked bots so far

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and deleted some trade posts or so

hard cliff
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The Squire is like what

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50 divines ?

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75 ?

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1 mirror ?

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Damn I need to go minion poison for this I bet

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that sucks

fiery marsh
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Mainly your relics will be extremely expensive

drowsy eagle
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iirc phrecia people were farming rouge and pooped tons of uniques

hard cliff
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What the hell is a relic

drowsy eagle
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idol

hard cliff
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Ohhh ok

final owl
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the thing that made people actually like (or hate) phrecia league

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did you just not play it or something

fiery marsh
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Rogue nerfed tho. Idk if it still works. Ritual interaction was gutted

hard cliff
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No, I thought they were called idiols

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also yes I quit at maps lol

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After I got my box

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didn't wanna deal with idiols

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still don't

drowsy eagle
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but we have async trade now Pogott

hard cliff
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Yeah so true

That'll help

brazen vector
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Giga blight will poop uniques, dw

Squire 1c

final owl
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i can assure you phrecia 2 will be idol boogaloo, if you don't like that aspect

fiery marsh
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Yeah but there still gonna be extremely expensive

hard cliff
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I like expedition and harvest well enough I guess

fiery marsh
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Every build cheap lol

opaque wing
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I mean, can always do the Deadly Prey idols+ Meticulous Appraiser idol+ Arid Lake strat for giga uniques if they're needed

fiery marsh
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Mageblood maybe hold value. Probably not cuz breach

fickle glen
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What to do when this event glitches? No more monster and it won’t finish

fickle glen
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😩

hard cliff
fiery marsh
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Indigon gonna be expensive af

final owl
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it is the same

fiery marsh
hard cliff
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sure but which one is better

final owl
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the only difference is which 4 flasks are affected

hard cliff
final owl
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neither

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as in it literally makes no difference at all whatsoever

fiery marsh
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Boss drops will be expensive cuz mostly ppl gonna be mapping

final owl
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when we're sayinf it'e the same thing, that is what is literally meant

brazen vector
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Just put your unique flask in the middle slot

jagged raven
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which build are u guys playing for the phrecia event

hard cliff
fiery marsh
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Whisperer dex stacker kboc

jagged raven
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oh when does patch notes drop

hard cliff
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I want to go minions if I can avoid spectres

hard cliff
brazen vector
final owl
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in the days before the new league starts typically

jagged raven
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ok

opaque wing
jagged raven
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xD

fiery marsh
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Jugg nerfed

hard cliff
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he needs it

brazen vector
jagged raven
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lol

fiery marsh
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And fishing shit gone

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Meme tier crit lol hopefully they extend like last event

opaque wing
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They have an actual league planned, so hopefully not

final owl
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they have been adhering to the 4 month cycle pretty closely. why would they extend

fiery marsh
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At least a month. They ain't gotta do no maintenance on phrexia

fickle glen
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This cool looking slayer popped out of nowhere and started slaying with me

final owl
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4 months is already longer than any league needs to last

opaque wing
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No, but they do have to give downtime for players to detach from one league of PoE, to get ready for the next without burnout.

fiery marsh
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Burnout lol

fickle glen
brazen vector
fiery marsh
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Fucking 4 month league bro.

hard cliff
normal hedge
fiery marsh
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Phrecia is the best event ever

fickle glen
normal hedge
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hes talking about phrecia -> 3 weeks -> 3.28

elfin shale
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@hard cliff Am i cooking with Oath of The Maji+Precursor's Release

fiery marsh
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No league or event touches phyrecia

brazen vector
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Nothing beats affliction

true falcon
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Worst part about PoE2 is having to remember all of the PoE1 mechanics. Like I forgot poison stacks infinitely

fiery marsh
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Phyrecia

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Phyrecia is 100x affliction.

brazen vector
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Phrecia

final owl
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where is the y coming from

drowsy eagle
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Phrecya

fiery marsh
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Phyrecia is the most loot you will ever see in the game period

hard cliff
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if everyone has loot it has no value

final owl
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phrecia was not totally unlike the current temple situation in PoE2.

brazen vector
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Poo2

fiery marsh
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This shit will be bonkers too with risk scarab every Mao

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Map

final owl
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in terms of those who locked in good idol setups early made so much bank the economy got wonky

fickle glen
elfin shale
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@hard cliff Ive cooked real and serious dogshit

ocean field
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gng do any of you know any skill or method that adds attack speed to cast speed or the other way around cause I distinctly remember someone in yt saying the ability to do to but I can't remember

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??

elfin shale
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Ill whip up a PoB in a bit

fiery marsh
elfin shale
true falcon
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Phrecia idols more loot than standard

hard cliff
elfin shale
leaden jacinth
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So are they adding the phrecia stuff to private leagues permanently to be turned on or just during the even?

fiery marsh
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Necro on crack

brazen vector
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Phrecia idols more loot than ruthless LETSFUCKINGGLORP

opaque wing
true falcon
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I wonder since we're have asybc trade, if we'll get idol crafting for SSF

fiery marsh
ocean field
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that is what I was looking for

fiery marsh
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If they buff drops of idols win win

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Said 50% off map boss

hard cliff
opaque wing
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Eh, idols were common enough last time, just clunky to trade, async will probably more than make them feel more abundant this time.

fiery marsh
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Recomb time

elfin shale
brazen vector
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Idr was there unleash tech in phrecia ascendancies?

fiery marsh
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Scion is a good start for noobs

opaque wing
fiery marsh
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Could be nutty with new foulborns too

true falcon
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2 leagues in a row rolling a Ward based build

brazen vector
true falcon
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But now I have Antiquarian

brazen vector
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Wait why am I even awake

ruby otter
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wait they're just doing another legacy of phrecia??? oh no, this is another one of those "all our devs are working on POE2 right now" things isn't it

true falcon
opaque wing
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They would have stated if there was a delay if there was one planned already.

fiery marsh
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It's dex stacking whisperer time

final owl
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it is definitely a "this was popular and people have been asking for phrecia back in some form for a while now" thing which also is less work for them

ruby otter
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oh... I guess that's fine then...

opaque wing
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If it was a delay they wouldn't be ending it just in time for the PoE1 teaser cycle.

ruby otter
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I did not know it was like a mini league

fiery marsh
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If it delays to March 13th?

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It is probably the most popular event ever?

hard cliff
fiery marsh
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Like 327 nerfs don't even bother it

opaque wing
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Idols being divisive alone will make sure this isn't the most popular event. kek

hard cliff
brazen vector
fiery marsh
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90% of ppl don't even hit 90

strong totem
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Well .. no gems and untouched soul

fiery marsh
#

Kboc break my game

strong totem
#

Bruh how am I going to hit level 90 without hierophant

fiery marsh
#

+1 fork

fickle glen
strong totem
fiery marsh
#

I suspect early zones acts gonna be pretty hard tho

fickle glen
spice pecan
#

that ascendancy is incapable of dying

#

unless they nerf it

final owl
#

yeah AC makes leveling / endgame pretty cruisey

strong totem
#

Hiero best

spice pecan
#

hierophant doesn't exist in phrecia

#

and isn't even the tankiest asc in regular poe anyway

final owl
#

s'why it's gonna be hard to not just go with AC cyclone again.. which is what I did for last phrecia :I

strong totem
#

It's the best ascendancy in the game

gritty garnet
#

let's not address the hierophant in the pob

opaque wing
# heady cliff async trade

Some people still don't like having to fiddle with their idols instead of the tree. Its going to be better for sure, but some people will just get turned off completely because of idols.

fiery marsh
heady cliff
#

i thought of elementalist then i remembered that phrecia deletes it :(

hard cliff
spice pecan
#

as someone who plays multiple hiero builds every league, i will say it's not even close to the best ascendancy in base poe1 lol

hard cliff
#

maybe

heady cliff
#

what could you replace it with for harold stacker or just abandon the idea?

spice pecan
#

herald stacker probably plays either scavenger or ac

#

tbh

hard cliff
spice pecan
#

and it's bad

strong totem
hard cliff
#

it'll be fixed

trust @spice pecan

spice pecan
heady cliff
#

anyway best builds would be almost for sure abusing some obscure foulborn mod

strong totem
#

It's the whole pizza

heady cliff
#

and some phrecia gimmicks

#

in combination

spice pecan
#

most of my poe time has been playing longneck lefty kek

#

if you want to hit level 90 with literal zero effort, play RF scav, or play literally any slam on AC

#

assusming those aren't nerfed, which they probably will be

#

you can straight 2 stone on AC with like, act 3 gear

livid quarry
#

dont nerf ggg make everything op so ppl wanna play

strong totem
#

I tried to level rf today on hc. I nearly fell asleep without arcane surge

spice pecan
#

then play AC slams

strong totem
#

I only play spells nowadays

spice pecan
#

then play fuckin scav EK

#

lol

strong totem
#

Mana stack only

#

Hiero is the best

elfin shale
#

okay so this might not be the most realistic leaguestarter

spice pecan
#

then play dex stack whisperer

#

you get 1 mana per dex

#

and you get free awakened fork

strong totem
#

You know what.

spice pecan
#

you don't have to play kboc even tho it's the best skill for it

#

you can play selfcast power siphon of the archmage

#

or even selfcast ice spear of splitting

strong totem
#

Whisperer is missing a lot of qol

spice pecan
#

okay i'm not taking that bait lol

strong totem
#

Namely arcane surge

brazen vector
#

Why not play herald herald stacker

spice pecan
#

what if there was a support gem that gave you arcane surge

#

maybe even at like, level 2

#

that would be INSANE

elfin shale
#

or a cluster

normal hedge
spice pecan
#

or a passive node on the tree

strong totem
#

Hiero arcane surge gives 20% more spell damage

spice pecan
#

who cares

strong totem
#

I care

#

I scale effect

spice pecan
#

you can get far more than that by not being married to the concept of arcane surge

#

and by that, i mean you can get far more of everything that that buff grants

strong totem
#

There's a reason for this

brazen vector
strong totem
#

It's frostblink of wintry blast

normal hedge
#

eh

spice pecan
#

whisperer gives: awakened fork, mana scaling thru dex, 4% of mana as lightning damage, and crown of eyes

normal hedge
#

12% mastery, 20% presage, 12% enlighten

spice pecan
#

you can also drop crown of eyes node for 4 min power+frenzy charges

normal hedge
#

vs 200% from coming calamity

spice pecan
#

you can also drop crown of eyes for rage on mana spend

brazen vector
#

Yea okay, case closed

strong totem
#

I need speed

spice pecan
#

and rage will give you everything arcane surge is

opaque wing
#

I have to assume that whisper node will get chopped given there's an oshabi one that basically is the same the same effect.

normal hedge
#

herald ascendancy literally a downgrade for herald stacker (lycia+herald of hive) xD

strong totem
#

I wouldn't want to play an attack. I'd rather go spark or fireball whisper

spice pecan
#

spark blind prophet is a build iirc

#

but probably busted on whisperer too

strong totem
#

They go coc?

spice pecan
#

if you want coc, go surfcaster

brazen vector
#

What will berth do without fross occultist

spice pecan
#

free 10,000% inc crit chance

spice pecan
strong totem
#

Can't attack with a fishing pole sir

normal hedge
#

berth gonna do eviscerate

spice pecan
#

fr*ss bog shaman will probably be a thing tho

elfin shale
#

https://pobb.in/oei8EgFa_loA
Can anyone take this into a playable state i have no idea where to go from here

What fuckin skill do i use

brazen vector
spice pecan
#

maybe equip items

#

or a skill gem perhaps

strong totem
#

Blind prophet has base crit for coc. Surfcasting no coc

elfin shale
#

Whats the popular attack skills nowadays

#

Is it all smite

spice pecan
#

smite, molten strike, ehit, LS

#

mamba

opaque wing
#

Lightning strike is still decent and played.

elfin shale
#

hmmm fromst blades

spice pecan
#

LS blind prophet will still be good

hard cliff
#

@spice pecan

#

that's a great idea

spice pecan
#

idk i had a blast on kboc whisperer in phrecia 1, i'm almost definitely playing wintertide bog shaman this time

#

unless there's a league start perma vaal coldsnap build

strong totem
hard cliff
#

oh man you can do more than a freaking brand

normal hedge
spice pecan
kindred silo
normal hedge
#

still good

spice pecan
#

that node back in phrecia actually just gave like 10,000% inc crit chance

#

which made it not work with herald of thunder

strong totem
normal hedge
#

ah custom modifiers w8

spice pecan
#

but ye if you have any skill with more than 0% base crit then it works

drowsy eagle
normal hedge
spice pecan
strong totem
spice pecan
#

is it good? probably not

#

but you can absolutely proc coc with it

strong totem
opaque wing
kindred silo
spice pecan
#

till then, im out the kitchen

spice pecan
#

this is why i don't cook builds

elfin shale
#

You can with Cospri's

#

wait

spice pecan
#

oh wait

#

yeah you can

elfin shale
#

hrng and the CoC chest needs unarmed

hard cliff
#

coc chest

spice pecan
#

there's always coc shako

#

which i think actually works with default attack

#

but i'm not surgeongeneral/poopbutts2200-pilled enough to test that

#

but i know there is a way to trigger coc with default attack

true falcon
hard cliff
#

will antqiyitarian get buffed?

spice pecan
hard cliff
#

that was a cool class

#

just under powers

spice pecan
#

make behemoth able to use spells but at like a 175% cost multi or something

hard cliff
elfin shale
spice pecan
#

make gambler pendulum effects be good on both sides

true falcon
#

It wasn't that bad damage wise, it was just awful because I was Ward based and never got enough hits/second to refresh my ward fast enough to be my only defense

hard cliff
spice pecan
strong totem
#

I think we'd need a shaper fishing pole. Nah, I don't believe default attack can coc

spice pecan
#

one swing, delete uber

true falcon
spice pecan
#

there's a reason they orbital nuked it LMAOO

true falcon
#

0.1% builds LOGIN

spice pecan
#

it is still "playable", it just requires about as much investment as making fuckin Bear Trap your main skill

#

whereas you can just play regular kbolt on a dogshit gear str stacker at the same effectiveness

hard cliff
#

these plus a blood line

true falcon
#

It was better than flame surge of combusting when I read it wrong and thought ignite duration scaled the damage

spice pecan
#

wasn't that a mathil build or am i tripping

true falcon
#

No idea

spice pecan
#

flame surge in general is another skill i'd like to see them give some love to

true falcon
#

That one does keep getting stronger as they add more "ignites deal damage faster" things.

spice pecan
#

that and base LC are poo2-coded skills from far before poo2 was an idea

#

wait fuck, tristack TS miner aristocrat was a build

hard cliff
spice pecan
#

god dammit idk what to play anymore

hard cliff
spice pecan
#

no dude you dont understang

hard cliff
#

ok UHM

strong totem
#

Omni aristocrat

spice pecan
#

i need to get hyped for a build, only for it to get orbital nuked mere hours before the patch goes live

#

and then rip my hair out trying to find a diff build to play

#

(image of me wanting to play hexblast mines before stealth nerf in 3.26)

hard cliff
#

support link paladin

spice pecan
#

i think wtb bog shaman is like my fallback build tho, i'll play it as long as something cooler doesn't come around

#

i'll play paladin if i have friends that want to group play

#

but wtb shaman is probably very safe from nerfs and probably only gets buffs, so i think it's a solid fallback choice

strong totem
#

Play with 3 paladins for all 3 auras

final owl
#

I might just do AC cyclone again with the expectation i'll just bail at 90. if it manages to hook me proper maybe i try something else

spice pecan
#

AC is surely getting nerfed

#

it was literally the strongest ascendancy poe1 and poo2 have ever seen

final owl
normal hedge
#

all nodes could get nerfed and it would still be strong

final owl
#

yeah i don't really believe it's going to get gutted

spice pecan
#

AC and scav are likely the prime targets for nerfs

final owl
#

yeah that doesn't bother me because i don't actually care what i play. that's my plan and i'm sticking to it, until i'm not.

spice pecan
#

totally fair. hype up behemoth buffs instead tho

split maple
#

I wonder how much they nerfing whisperer

spice pecan
#

probably 1 mana per 2 dex

thick goblet
#

i wonder how much t hey'll change the vaal one cause of the vaal bloodline

spice pecan
#

they likely leave awakened fork in there

split maple
#

I am rolling ancom unless it's literaly nerfed to trickster level of mid

elfin shale
spice pecan
#

but nerfing the dex stack node by half wouldn't kill the build, but it would make it way less good

dusky urchin
#

Cls

#

Like

spice pecan
thick goblet
granite nexus
#

if they dont nerf Anc Comm too much ima do GC again. thats really good

thick goblet
#

i might go vaal bv cause i saw a post on the subreddit about it the otehr day

#

and that looked cool

split maple
#

So okay whats the likely nerfs, 3->1 Max endurances and some conditional on defiance kinda like defy pain?

kindred silo
granite nexus
kindred silo
#

no need to gut the ascendancy

normal hedge
#

wish spider ascendancy was better

spice pecan
#

dont rly care about nerfs, i just hope they make the unplayable ascendancies better

gritty garnet
#

yeah cats > spiders

spice pecan
#

behemoth, gambler, etc

kindred silo
#

behemoth playable

spice pecan
#

go play it and tell me how playable it is

hard cliff
spice pecan
#

i dare you

kindred silo
#

i did

#

and it was good

split maple
#

Gambler could have some funny memes with treachery graft and invert reses chance stack

normal hedge
#

bruh

spice pecan
#

do you also think dex stack vgyre is good

kindred silo
#

no

gritty garnet
#

would be funny if rampager also disabled grafts

ionic folio
#

Will you guys play phrecia

kindred silo
#

it was like 100m ls w/ good max hits

spice pecan
split maple
#

Gonna farm me a milion morigans and jucie then go back to keepers

kindred silo
#

although that setup probably got half the dps now

split maple
#

Tho I am kinda worried about idols changes

thick goblet
sacred bane
#

whats all this about phrecia?
new event league?

empty ivy
#

a short-term event league of 3 weeks, based on Keepers
replaced the Ascendancy into a completely different one
replaced Atlas Tree into Idols

opaque sphinx
split maple
#

I keep forgetting how broken they were compared to current state of game

opaque sphinx
#

poof first click

umbral crag
#

Nice

#

Quit league

blazing ore
#

are toxic sewer and wastepool the exact layout except the boss room?

split maple
barren river
#

I will probably play MFA

opaque sphinx
#

holy

#

bought 2 more hom

#

both went poof

#

spent last 43d on unrequited

#

upped it to 5

#

sold and bought 2 hom

hybrid harness
#

so ur -1 tot?

#

or was that 1 -> 4

opaque sphinx
#

+1

#

i started with 3 poofing

hybrid harness
#

ah right the unreq counts as 2 too

#

big then

opaque sphinx
#

do i click again or just stop and buy simplex

hybrid harness
#

if what u have rn can get u that upgrade sell lol

#

or u go big cuz not like ur playing next week anyway

barren river
#

TBH I really hate idols

opaque sphinx
junior otter
#

I'll go for the level 50 box maybe but I won't bother with endgame

#

Just treat it like leaguestart act practice

#

But like hard mode I guess because of buffed areas and bosses

thick goblet
opaque sphinx
#

so close PepeHands

hoary scarab
#

big smart

steel light
opaque sphinx
barren river
opaque sphinx
#

wait no i ditched sigil for clarity

tranquil sedge
#

most of that headache is now gone 😄

opaque sphinx
#

wait this old helm too

neon orbit
#

anyone want an ingenuity belt?

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

ok this should be actual pob

#

idk why says 97 its 99

umbral crag
thick goblet
opaque sphinx
#

if they were 4% int ones, prob 3.5 ye

opaque sphinx
foggy jasper
#

anyone know what they gonna play for phrecia yet

barren river
opaque sphinx
#

if i use other watcher we could get it to like 3.75

tranquil sedge
barren river
#

I like the wonky ascendancies tho

tranquil sedge
#

like it's not gonna be actively impeding your enjoyment anymore

#

just coz players are too stupid to price idols properly

neon orbit
tranquil sedge
#

this is for poe1

#

use that channel for poe2

neon orbit
#

ohhh ty

#

lol mybad bro

split maple
#

eh annoying, there is no 3.27 [alternate] tree in pob

#

i wish ascendancy and tree dropdowns were separate

opaque wing
#

I mean, its all one compiled thing, ascendancy data is the same as the standard tree data. (They're in the same JSON file)

thick goblet
silent leaf
#

Ancestral Commander buffs please

#

+5 max endu

foggy jasper
#

i might do herald of agony shiz

#

idk yet

silent leaf
#

oh right

#

time to search up smth for phrecia

foggy jasper
#

shhh

split maple
#

like ancom with 6l and 900 pdps axe in like what act 7 😄

silent leaf
#

nah

#

you get only 600 pdps or smth in act 10 no?

#

since you need ilvl on the axe

#

im going HCSSF on phrecia

#

no banners is kinda rough though

foggy jasper
silent leaf
#

CWS ancestral commander

#

im waiting for it

#

HCSSF VStrike is kinda hard to get going

foggy jasper
#

i mean i would assume hes going to do same thing as last time

#

with arakaali

silent leaf
#

shit

#

fml also why is all duelist kinda dogshit

#

for ssf

foggy jasper
#

go gambler

#

trust

silent leaf
#

like this is the only one i consider "good"

#

bottom one is ok ig you have petrified blood and if you dont fuck around with lori's

#

maybe some olroth schnenigans later

gilded cairn
#

how do you add support gems to this?

opaque wing
silent leaf
#

you cant lmao

gilded cairn
#

so arakaali's fang + squire still mandatory?

opaque wing
#

Indeed if that's the build you're trying to play

#

That node is more for the fact that the spiders give the player
"Each Spider grants 2% increased Attack Speed
Each Spider grants 15% increased Damage with Poison"
as a buff

gilded cairn
#

doesn't that mean it's worthless for minion-focused builds?

opaque wing
#

That is correct, imo that node should be attached to the center, not to a minion poison chance node.

grizzled lily
#

minions do poison also

whole bluff
#

Yoooowwww sick partyblob

silent leaf
#

yknow what, i hope they extend 3.28 timeline so they can extend phrecia to 30 days

gilded cairn
#

is there some sort of perfect agony effect I can apply to minions? If i wanna play crit poison minions UHM

silent leaf
#

i REALLY dont mind if its 60

#

90 i do mind

#

by 60 im already fucking bored kekw

tranquil sedge
#

oh its only ~21 days right now

#

i see wym i thought it was 30 lol

silent leaf
#

yea

#

21 days is

#

not much

tranquil sedge
#

im not playing it coz to me its like a new league, may as well be

#

21 days aint enough to zero to hero a new build

opaque wing
silent leaf
#

no lyfe

tranquil sedge
#

even 30 would be too little to farm multiple mirrors worth of stuff if i wanted to

#

and try enough strats

gilded cairn
opaque wing
silent leaf
#

hmm

#

how hard would it to make CWS scion

#

we got stasis prison

fickle glen
#

If I use skills that reserve my health by 50% does that mean I am on low life status or will that become my new 100% health?

minor mantle
#

You're low life

#

u haven't lowered ur max hp u just reserved it i geuss

rancid peak
#

So literally just Phrecia with a few balances and the League Mechanic?

rancid peak
#
  • Necropolis mods
#

So Necro-Phrecia Breach league

final owl
#

painful it doesn't come with ability to block defense breach

opaque wing
#

No, necropolis mods are different, these are just map mods applied to areas

rancid peak
#

Ohh

#

15 mod maps 💀

#

Lets see it

fickle glen
opaque wing
rancid peak
#

Dont need the quant if Idols still work the same. Juice was insane

final owl
#

that ring is already great for light radius leveling

fickle glen
rancid peak
umbral crag
rancid peak
#

Like how much of the minimap is revealed

fickle glen
opaque wing
#

There are uniques that grant benefits from light radius scaling so that'd be the main driver to do so

umbral crag
final owl
gilded cairn
tawdry olive
#

At league start people were talking about light radius stacking wander before transition, but I don’t think it’s worth scaling beyond that

fickle glen
#

Doesn’t that mean miss?

tawdry olive
#

Wait that’s not evasion

gilded cairn
#

that refers to the damage range

rancid peak
#

Ill be doing Arm Brand into PBOD

split maple
final owl
#

no it means their damage takes it's lowest of 2 rolls

split maple
#

It's Just smaller hits not less hits

gilded cairn
#

so you'll maybe survive 10% better against lightning enemies or something

final owl
#

if they happen to max hit twice in a row it does nussink

umbral crag
fickle glen
#

I am tired of these devs not explaining how their stats work

gilded cairn
split maple
#

Whens the last time you opened wiki habibi UHM

final owl
#

lightning just has the largest range from min to max. it doesn't do nothing Bfor other damage types. it just does.. less

umbral crag
fickle glen
thick goblet
final owl
#

my dude, if you are here to moan about needing external sources to play a game, you have chosen poorly.

split maple
umbral crag
#

That you should know how to by now?

#

Like pressing alt while hovering the item

fickle glen
#

Sorry I’m done bitching.

split maple
#

Whatever alt is on xbox

final owl
#

Like, I don't disagree in spirit. But this is genuinely the game that literally leans into being complex and inscrutable, even IF you read everything comprehensively.

umbral crag
gilded cairn
#

to be fair, that ring was BiS for most shavronne builds in 2014 kek

split maple
#

i get that game is kinda overwhelming when you are fresh and thats okay

#

its just the complexity is what that makes it fun longterm

#

wiki is a good habit to develop 😄

fickle glen
umbral crag
fickle glen
split maple
#

(damage is what makes you hurt)

#

(life is red)

final owl
#

well, the issue is the difference between unlucky hit and unlucky damage right

final owl
#

if it's an unlucky damage by definition it has hit, so there must be some damage

split maple
#

or well idk whats exact phrasing there probably not enemies hitting you

umbral crag
#

Idk

#

English ig

final owl
#

the devil is always in the details

#

PoE has a lot of devils in a lot of details.

fickle glen
#

English is not my first language I am sorry.

split maple
#

now whats exciting was when unexciting was introduced to the game

umbral crag
#

Fair

fickle glen
#

I speak Arabic as main

stuck phoenix
final owl
stuck phoenix
#

Also ngl I do think it is explained in-game

umbral crag
#

I speak chinese as main, cool

stuck phoenix
#

Enemy damage works the same as your own

#

It has a range

#

Damage roll twice take worse result is logically comprehensible

#

English also isn't my first language

split maple
#

i am starting to kinda like idea of bleedshatter commander - thats without any passives allocated

umbral crag
#

Anyways, whats fun in phrecia that ppl are theorising? Ig we don't fully know the changes yet right to the phrecia ascendency?

golden phoenix
#

Words hard. Haha numbers go brrr. Number go up good except when not.

golden phoenix
#

If dying: don't

stuck phoenix
#

And like, it can't be explained better in-game on the item without being significantly more wordy

final owl
#

idk, i feel like there have to be some new builds that would come out of foulborn uniques + phrecia but if anyone is cooking anything wild they're keeping it under wraps

gilded cairn
#

I hate how the best use for these 2 nodes is to not play poison-focused minions DivineOrbSad

stuck phoenix
#

And it also can't be approximated properly because its value varies

opaque wing
split maple
#

and datamine the day after it

stuck phoenix
#

And it's behind the first one

#

I feel like the first one gives you a choice

#

Commit to poison or crit

gilded cairn
#

i guess... but using withered stacks as just a form of crit scaling chrisThinking
unless you also scale chaos hit dmg with 4white triad grip or smth

gilded cairn
opaque wing
clear lodge
#

This will sound like a very noobie question, but i am so oh well lol. Why are most kinetic blast elementalist builds i see on poe ninja primarily doing lightning damage? I know most of the bands have added lightning to attacks but is that it or is there other stuff im missing ok why pretty much all are doing for the most part all lightning damage when KB isn't inherently a lightning damage spell

gilded cairn
#

i might try that too... thing about unique-based skills like phantasms and spiders is that gem level scaling is off the table. I'm not that good at finding damage sources

opaque wing
pulsar dune