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tranquil sedge
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peeking brb

past mantle
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Still the same after all that time.

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Guide from 2022.

fickle glen
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Can’t I just get a unique bow that you guys can recommend? I don’t think I can afford to craft a weapon yet

tranquil sedge
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u buy a ready made one as close to what he described

crimson hearth
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Helllo

past mantle
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You can just buy it, they're not expensive.

whole bluff
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Most unique weapons are extremely undertuned atm

past mantle
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Because the only good unique bow is quillrain.

tranquil sedge
past mantle
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Or the 250% quiver effect one but that requires a good quiver.

hard cliff
crimson hearth
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I just got a ps5 now i had ps4 version if i download ps5 version would i have to so anything or would i be able to login right away (same psn obviously)

hard cliff
whole bluff
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They've been power crept for like 7 years with a few select buffs to items that became absurdly rare, and even those items usually are questionable

past mantle
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Wings is also good but very specific.

whole bluff
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Glad midsommar!

past mantle
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Unique bows are in a particularly bad state.

crimson hearth
fickle glen
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Dang 100% attack speed on that quill bow

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I might just get that…

past mantle
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30% less damage also.

crimson hearth
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I haven't played in months tho is it still the same

whole bluff
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It's funny how the most meta way to use the rarest weapons is an advanced form of vendoring in Kingsmarch

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Is doomfletch playable atm?

fickle glen
limpid prairie
whole bluff
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Weapons with a cool effect, like widowhail or quill rain or doomfletch for bows, or voidforge or ephemeral edge for melee, are usually more viable than run of the mill unique weapons

ocean field
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUj74HRxFRw @tranquil sedge and @split maple thoughts one this if I attempt to play a trickster version of this. How much dps would I lose if I have to make it tanky

This is my Kinetic Fusillade Elementalist Build Guide for PoE 3.27. This new Wand Skill that was introduced in the lastest Path of Exile Keepers of the Flame is a deeply overlooked and powerful Skill that excels not only at mapping, but also bossing. Links below:

► MUST WATCH VIDEO ON KINETIC FUSILLADE: https://youtu.be/uXnloZQPPdM

► Build...

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hard cliff
ocean field
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@hard cliff can u chip in too

hard cliff
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@sonicsailes
play melee ignite and I'll give you all my chaos

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@ocean field

tranquil sedge
ocean field
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but it is melee tho

ocean field
whole bluff
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Trickster got bonk

tranquil sedge
ocean field
whole bluff
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He is waiting for you 6 feet under

ocean field
whole bluff
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Eblade inquisitor is cool

hard cliff
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eblade heiro is disgustingly powerful

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inquis

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I am sober sorry

whole bluff
ocean field
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how do people play melee skills bruh

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u have to be this close to enemyy to kill him

whole bluff
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The handshake archetype

ocean field
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might as well blow them

whole bluff
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There's a skill called infernal blow

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It's melee

ocean field
whole bluff
rich hawk
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Is there really no new league until March?

whole bluff
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But maybe should keep it less depraved in here

hard cliff
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just pretend you are doom guy

ocean field
whole bluff
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I would expect chatters to leave and mods to replace them in the convo if it was too much

ocean field
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funny tho I don't like bow skills don't like melee

hard cliff
barren river
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hey chat!

hard cliff
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great gym music

fickle glen
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I am excited to try this quill bow now

barren river
hard cliff
barren river
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but as a main weapon, it's trash

tight plinth
fickle glen
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OMG this thing is devastating

barren river
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it has very low base damage

fickle glen
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I just cleared the hive born in less than 10 sec holyyy

tight plinth
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there are 2 builds where its decent, explosive arrow and toxic rain, other than that its pretty poop

ocean field
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btw how does cast when stunned or crit or channellling work

tight plinth
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you get stunned, you cast

fickle glen
tight plinth
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you crit, you cast

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youre channeling, you cast

fickle glen
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This is where all my damage been 🥹

ocean field
fickle glen
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Yo who ever mentioned that quill bow ily nohomo

tight plinth
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there are ways around it, you can have a butt ton of stun recovery

tight plinth
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theres a whole build around it

barren river
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look up cws chieftain

tight plinth
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quite popular nowadays

barren river
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bloodnotch immutable force

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and you have super low es and you use valyrium

ocean field
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how it better than self cast tho

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low cast times?

tight plinth
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most of the time, triggered is better than "hand cast"

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its a lot better now than it was before

past mantle
hard cliff
barren river
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for example, the best way to play fross is to play with your coc

stable hawk
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no cast time and trigger rate can typically get very high, atleast for coc. Not that familiar with cwc or cws

past mantle
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Bone shatter even more than most things.

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Sione's makes everything half screen wide.

barren river
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zenith does not count

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nor flicker

ocean field
past mantle
past mantle
ocean field
ocean field
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still pretty slow

barren river
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you play with your coc and you also use cwc lightning warp for mjolner

ocean field
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Not inherently less damage

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but feeling is slow

barren river
ocean field
tight plinth
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dahek is coiling?

whole bluff
ocean field
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music to my ears

stable hawk
barren river
stable hawk
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it's not

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poison fross is great

tight plinth
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hand caster

ocean field
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body coc better than hand coc

barren river
ocean field
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I am gonna play trickster fross coc

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rn in a coiling setup

stable hawk
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ya that version is pretty much dead

ocean field
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will switch to coc

tight plinth
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can someone explain to me what da hek is a coiling

barren river
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coiling whisper

ocean field
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coiling setup sucks me dry in seconds

barren river
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aka soul eater ring

barren river
stable hawk
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but I always preferred the poison fross versions anyways, I.e. akin to what exile played in 3.26. Which is very much alive still and didn't get nerfs aside from whispers nerf

barren river
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sold it

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i could have used fross gloves and added swift affliction

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and i could have also forfeited the +1 pc ring for a dusk ring

ocean field
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some good cast when channeling skills

barren river
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go check conner's setup

restive nova
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what is that thing in maps just pops up and blasts kamehameha ? so annoying

barren river
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idk

split maple
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shaper influenced rare mobs t17 map modifier?

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or t16.5

barren river
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you can get uppies from shaper or volatiles

restive nova
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t16

split maple
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is it shaper guardian map? it has same effect

barren river
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did you get the bad touch™ from the shaper?

ocean field
restive nova
ocean field
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be perfect cell

barren river
restive nova
split maple
barren river
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probably you got the bad touch™

restive nova
split maple
barren river
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for deadeye, everything is the bad touch™

hard cliff
ocean field
split maple
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@restive nova take screenshot of that dropdown

barren river
split maple
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it shows map mods

barren river
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trickster is ded

hard cliff
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Assassin needs a buff

ocean field
split maple
# restive nova

"Rare monsters in area are shaper-touched" thats your kamehame

ocean field
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crit banged

restive nova
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wew

barren river
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it's one of the tamer mods in t17

ocean field
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idk how shaper touch is an issue tbh

split maple
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what points do you even take on trickster nowadays tho

ocean field
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I have been banged by multiple from all sides

split maple
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like if you could invest 8 points into bloodline you would do so on tricky

normal hedge
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just play shadow instead of trickster, dont even have to ascend

ocean field
barren river
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polymath escape artist soul drinker spellbreaker?

split maple
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escape artist necrotic doesnt beat just taking twilight

ocean field
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that is pretty sig

barren river
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i got 18k es on trickster with that

split maple
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and for that you just need ghost dance and 1 less evasion than es

ocean field
whole bluff
barren river
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shadow is trash tho

normal hedge
barren river
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rip trickstertgirl

hard cliff
split maple
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thats your souldrinker for free

spare ore
hard cliff
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it's one of the best starting locations in the game

normal hedge
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lol

barren river
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just go elementalist

ocean field
split maple
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its not if you go for that

spare ore
ocean field
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Mine is like 34K evasion and 16k es

barren river
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witch is better

split maple
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and if your argument is trickster good coz overleech well just take shadow and manipulate eva a bit and you have trickster

ocean field
hard cliff
split maple
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like the only interesting shadow ascendancy rn is sabo and even that is carried by being able to slap 4 points into bloodline instead

ocean field
spare ore
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hes not god tier anymore but hes not trash

ocean field
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cause I have to have CI

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I hate witch

whole bluff
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"You want the EE? Take it, it's yours. But trickster, I will burn to the ground."

ocean field
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that only leaves trickster and inquis

split maple
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okay to be fair charge duration on tricky is interestign for reap and shit and spellbreaker is legit unique with wicked ward for recovery

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but thats kinda not a lot of stuff

barren river
ocean field
normal hedge
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thats just not true

ocean field
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get banged easily

split maple
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pretty sure you can build elementalist tankier than tricky this leg

barren river
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just stack es like an idiot

split maple
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golems do be strong

barren river
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or play penis brand

ocean field
tranquil sedge
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the witch kinetic fusilade pob u shared earlier, that wasn't even running all full es gear lol

ocean field
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penis brand trickster

tranquil sedge
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and not stacking much int

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and still almost like 9k es

ocean field
tranquil sedge
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you could have made that considerably tankier

split maple
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if you want tanky wands do kboc hiero - thats a lot of ES

tranquil sedge
barren river
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ivory tower?

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or ci?

whole bluff
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I have 8k ES with questionable life decisions and the oppressor on my elementalist

tranquil sedge
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like just a better helm at the expense of like 5% dps woulda added another almost 2k es

split maple
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CI

tranquil sedge
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add a bunch of int for another few k es

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etc.

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like u could make that tankier for sure

ocean field
barren river
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what about int acc jugg?

split maple
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for ultis max hit dont matter much

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like rly not

whole bluff
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25k evasion, capped spellblock, 75% of melee dmg taken from golems before me, CI

split maple
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recovery matters

barren river
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it's not like i'll make a 2nd char this league

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and i'll not log into poe1 till 3.28

hard cliff
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based

ocean field
ocean field
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then created trickster

split maple
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rf witch is a levelign setup

spare ore
split maple
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it aint a good build

ocean field
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push to 67 then stopped

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switched to standard

barren river
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WHY

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WHY STD?

ocean field
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too broke to switch

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so just quit to standard

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the issue was gold

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I had to gold to even make the dumbass purchases

barren river
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gold was the reason why i "donated" a mirror

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i asked someone in the standard global to break me a mirror and it got stolen

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i forgot to ask for collateral

normal hedge
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cant say its stolen since you gave it for free

split maple
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next time ask rilay or smh

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without colateral kek

normal hedge
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i prolly lost all my gold in standard

ocean field
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tf does that mean

barren river
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give me the equivalent amount of currency

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e.g 1.6k d

ocean field
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oh

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bruh

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bro got folded from scamming 101

split pagoda
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swapping EE out with eblade should still be a very strong build I just don't know if I'd still play it on trickster kek

barren river
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basically, this was sold for 1m

split maple
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just has that 12p clusters for es entry cost

elfin shale
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What attack has just the highest DE number, is it Vigilant Strike?

eternal hill
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ppl been using mamba a lot

split pagoda
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yeah only thing is then ur kinda locked into ms, smite for most gameplay feels way better

split maple
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yeah idk where to get dps outside of ms nowadays

eternal hill
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just play frostblade or LS at that point

split pagoda
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Smite eblade will have solid dmg still on trickster

barren river
earnest raven
elfin shale
stuck phoenix
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maybe

elfin shale
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wait there's probably a page on the wiki for this

stuck phoenix
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maybe maybe not

split pagoda
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It's just not smth u would take to crazy high-end anymore

stuck phoenix
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it's not actually as useful of a stat as you might think

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because skills are balanced based on it

split pagoda
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Slap some recomb gear on and do t17s/ubers on smite trickster eblade should still be chill

elfin shale
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I forgot about the retaliates but i was pretty close

stuck phoenix
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lel

elfin shale
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what the fuck are you doin here ol buddy ol pal

stuck phoenix
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divine ire is pretty high up there if you're not just looking at raw DE

stuck phoenix
spare ore
brazen vector
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I should check my 3.26 whispers

elfin shale
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Does Knockback make the Berserker strike node work consistently or is it still a flicker only node

brazen vector
spare ore
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damn

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das good

brazen vector
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1200d listed 2 months ago

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guess we match the price

spare ore
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undercut by 1div

sage falcon
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if it didnt sell for 2 months dont expect yours to sell either

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but ok

brazen vector
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I can wait, its std lmao

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like who cares

spare ore
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for the memes

whole bluff
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Did I get ghost pinged?

spare ore
whole bluff
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Npnp

spare ore
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(it wasn't me who pinged)

whole bluff
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I was confused, but it slowly loaded another chat

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And that chat gives notices every message. Maybe just out of sync loading notifications

barren river
brazen vector
whole bluff
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Yow, that ammy looks OP

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A couple 100 ES + the unique effect clearly doesn't seem like a horrible idea right? I didn't think of it as much cuz I played life based in 3.26

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Here, see my mana fixer. It also incidentally has the ES of a titanium spirit shield, on my ammy

spare ore
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the es on that amulet got nerfed

whole bluff
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Yeah

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I'm just talking about its state on release

elfin shale
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Also has reduced maximum mana for tinctures Pogott

spare ore
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yeah it was super busted

whole bluff
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Shavs really doesn't deserve to have lower ES than an amulet they would release in current state of the game imo. But /shrug

split maple
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funky one

whole bluff
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Hmmm. If I can find a glove and boot with no defence mods, and if bereks respite has no defence mods, I could go shako + fb utula, primordial chain/ashes, dw wands

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You just need to use a wagger

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Or is it for penance brand with block?

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Nvm. 1 mod is wand only, 1 mod is dagger/claw only

split maple
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yeah its at beast a 2mod megalo and prolly unusuable in general

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just looks very close to good 😄

brazen vector
whole bluff
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WHA megalos when

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And replica/foulborn megalo that gives masteries when

split maple
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prolly the only usable one i got today

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but idk i dont like having to think about fiting hatred into build

whole bluff
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I wish there was a support gem that added flat phys to spells so I could get that in shako, put spellslinger flame surge of combusting in shako, and dual wield grace of the goddess

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And WoC ignite in body

spice pecan
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flat phys to spells Pogott

whole bluff
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I suppose

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Might even be good to stack that with 200%+ phys as ele ignite

spice pecan
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replica shroud of the lightless spellcaster galaxyBrainSkill

whole bluff
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Nah, I need more defences

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Replica shroud might work for life based though?

past mantle
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Sick.

split maple
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not today ig

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back to simul farm

normal hedge
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sadge

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next one for sure

tranquil sedge
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hey new CW video

spare ore
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truee

split maple
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i need to fix dps on my cws tho, rn simuls take 15-20min each 💀

normal hedge
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sounds about right if you're afking it

somber sundial
somber sundial
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Do I gamble or just sell the voices

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Seeing as how you just did a gamba

spice pecan
split maple
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how much are unid ones anyways nowadays?

somber sundial
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22div

spice pecan
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looks like 6d/ea on TFT

split maple
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you teling me simul hits what 30-40div per hour?

spice pecan
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22d/ea is what i was selling them for on TFT back in merc league

split maple
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crazy ass

somber sundial
spice pecan
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are they actually selling at 22d/ea on async trade

somber sundial
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It’s how I got 135div in 2 days

spice pecan
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that's crazy that they're going for merc league prices lmaoo

split maple
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how much are simuls?

spice pecan
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but also they're like 1/4th the cost on tft chaosthinking

tranquil sedge
somber sundial
somber sundial
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On a sync trade

tranquil sedge
somber sundial
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Standard

tranquil sedge
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like
today
a week ago

somber sundial
split maple
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lol if i hear anyone complaining about making dough this league i am sending them to simul jail

tranquil sedge
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sir

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he's in league lol

spice pecan
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oh, standard????

tranquil sedge
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its 6d in league yes on tft

somber sundial
spice pecan
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bruh

somber sundial
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Tf I do

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I just trying upgrade my frost blades lol

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16429 Lethal pride is 750 Div in standard, it’s 1div in league

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Bananas

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And I need it

split maple
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so ask someone pretty pls to buy it for you in league

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and wait a month

somber sundial
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Nah I got it

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All good

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Just gotta wait for league to end

spice pecan
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time to go farm a div in league

somber sundial
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Hopefully in a month I’ll have farmed at least to level 100

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Need a big boy watchers eye, 80 Div

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PepeHmm mirror claw + squire is what I’m thinking

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But I know I cannot afford

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Maybe if I pull a fuckin 1p voices again I’ll just convert into LS

somber sundial
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And get settlers dagger with soul gain mod

split maple
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evvery league is cooking league

spice pecan
somber sundial
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Then I brick my puter

spice pecan
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those ambushers with soul gain mod were spendy as hell even during 3.25

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i wonder if you can do perma vaal stuff now without it tho and just use a crucible weapon instead

short prairie
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It’s not my birthday

spice pecan
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it is now

haughty ermine
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happy birthday

short prairie
normal hedge
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ofc it is

elfin shale
short prairie
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When’s poo leg start

hybrid harness
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like 6-7 weeks

normal hedge
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march 13

short prairie
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I’m traveling soon so prob not gonna leg start this time

normal hedge
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again?

somber sundial
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If I did mirror that weapon, I probably would just setup an alt or something, retain my Uber gear for my frost blades, since my chest is big and so is my shield

spice pecan
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i had to get a kikazaru and the es regen mastery to sustain mana rf

short prairie
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March 13 might work

spice pecan
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and i only have 1400 max mana

elfin shale
spice pecan
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i'm using it for eblade tho

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not mana rf: the build

elfin shale
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no i mean get lower lol

barren river
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i hate rf

spice pecan
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hard to when the build wants a shit ton of int

somber sundial
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Consecrated path of endurance

spice pecan
elfin shale
somber sundial
elfin shale
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Doryani's Fist 😔

spice pecan
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perforate kinda wants you to be in blood stance tho right

finite quail
spice pecan
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which is omega cringe

normal hedge
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NOT COOL

pulsar dune
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Crushing fist is nice IMO

spice pecan
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i kinda wish doryani's fist were good

elfin shale
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Blood for single target and sand for clear

spice pecan
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but i want to run sand on flesh and stone for not die :(

elfin shale
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but what about the % more phys damage Pogott

barren river
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unarmed is also very cringe

spice pecan
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no deal damage when leap slam into deth

pulsar dune
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Surely that's reliable

spice pecan
elfin shale
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huh. didnt this use to be 30% of leech

spice pecan
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oh it's been done

finite quail
spice pecan
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the second one in that vid is uber

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which is even more funny

past mantle
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Playing ele hit and randomly stunning uber bosses out of their big moves was crazy.

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Stun is silly, especially when you don't invest.

past mantle
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I don't remember how but it's gone now.

elfin shale
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Is there anything that gives Cannot Block

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Which isnt a shield

frigid wedge
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that you cant or mobs cant

spice pecan
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as in, you yourself cannot block?

elfin shale
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Myself yeah

frigid wedge
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oh

spice pecan
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uhhhh

frigid wedge
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whats wrong with just having 0 block

elfin shale
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im wondering if getting something with Cannot Block is less investment than just using Divine Flesh since im using Emp's anyway

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I think its just Saffel's and Apple though

past mantle
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I'm a bit lost, why would you want to be 0% block here?

frigid wedge
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he wants all to bypass

elfin shale
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I want damage to bypass my ES so recharge isnt interrupted

frigid wedge
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es

past mantle
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Is it for EB?

elfin shale
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Whispers

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so it still blocks my life by default

past mantle
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Right that makes sense.

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You do have to divine shield, yeah. Nothing that makes you unable to block.

split maple
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kinda funny detail from ssf global - folks are splitting synaptic rings

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thats how bad grasping mail situation is 😄

elfin shale
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da hell dey doin oer dere

spice pecan
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ssf armor stackers be tryin

normal hedge
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13yo old video, still lightning strike meta

elfin shale
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Was Shiversting just like bonkers flat back then or what

livid quarry
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looks like poe2 tree

normal hedge
spice pecan
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scion used to be able to take blood magic at level 4

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that's hilarious

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what a krangled ass passive tree

elfin shale
unique silo
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if anyone is not busy can they chk my dps on pob pls. zod_108#0981

finite quail
unique silo
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my pob doesnt work.ssl error

limpid prairie
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execute as admin

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maybe ?

elfin shale
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wait replica bitterdream kinda goated

ocean field
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is there any video that explains the mechanics of cast when stunned builds

finite quail
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spell comes out

pulsar dune
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The real magic is in the infinite ehp

normal hedge
pulsar dune
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I believe the bloodnotch wiki page has that

ocean field
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also before that the main question

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is it possible to make a cws trickster

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possible as in it actually can do hard content

pulsar dune
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Not really

normal hedge
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you can make it work but trickster would give you nothing

ocean field
pulsar dune
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CWS has heavy anti-synergy with ES, I've seen it on glad since it skips one dot in ultimatum.

ocean field
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?

normal hedge
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read the ring

pulsar dune
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But at a baseline it's 50% stun avoid to have es, and your recovery is way worse

#

And yea, you then have to fix your stun threshold some other way

#

Tho maybe just the small one you get from not having any life mods as CI is acceptable, idk

limpid prairie
#

Is CI with no stun threshold better than reserving your life if you want to get stunned

pulsar dune
#

Stun threshold is based on max life, not current or unreserved life

spare ore
pulsar dune
#

With CI it's based on your life if you didn't have CI

#

Which IG means you could use -life reflected rings

#

But there's still the 50% baseline avoid chance

hard cliff
#

so ci has a big stun problem

pulsar dune
#

yes

#

you can take a mastery to fix it

#

but mostly click brine king

hard cliff
#

very cool

signal hawk
#

is that john undertale?

brazen vector
#

thats glorps Skinsona

sour depot
#

there's a way in poe 1 to make armour apply to elemental dmg?

signal hawk
#

Some ways yes

sour depot
#

how it looks like?

signal hawk
split maple
#

doryani and take fire&cold as lightning kek

ancient sorrel
#

thats pretty hard: heist shield, PoL watcher and ?

split maple
#

pol sublime

#

maybe some talisman mod? greatwolf?

tight plinth
#

for hits theres the timless keystone

pulsar dune
#

Technically flawed refuge

#

If we care about armor it's just hits anyway

tight plinth
#

wait thats taken as fire nvm

ancient sorrel
#

30 sublime + 20 perfect watcher + shield is 40

#

10 missing somewhere, necklace seems pure waste but might be givenup for the archetype

split maple
#

now the real question is how much armor is needed for doryani taken as lightning to be playable

ancient sorrel
#

yes.

pulsar dune
#

200k should be fine

ancient sorrel
#

oh, avian talismans only convert one element: cold or fire

#

thats a big issue

#

(5–10)% of Elemental Damage taken as Chaos Damage if 4 Hunter Items are Equipped
this could fill the gap

#

full focus on armour and positive chaos res

#

dont care about any elemental resist, put the scepter in main hand an profit

rich matrix
#

is there like 1 method in poe1 that makes the most money or multiple different viable end game farming strats?

#

temple being the only thing worth doing in poe2 was kinda boring for me

split maple
#

one came out of synther pre-vultured 😄

hard cliff
#

wow lol

hard cliff
#

Alwqays gonna be something that makes the most tho

#

I think it's super duper juiced blight right now not sure

#

@split maple
Did you get your build together yet ?

split maple
#

emm which one?

hard cliff
#

You know

#

that one

#

😏

dreamy charm
#

what is the fastest way to get the breach boss tokens? i dont seem to be getting many in t16 map breaches

split maple
#

for kbocer you can see i am working on jewels 😛

thick goblet
split maple
#

burn maps shrugR

split maple
dreamy charm
#

ah so fort is where it drops the most? i just do every breach type every map

split maple
#

unstable can only drop them if vruun spawns and rarely at that

#

the one with dots where you defend ailith canot drop them

#

you can also try burning mysterious wombgifts with less common drops speced, but thats also rather sadge

umbral saffron
#

Hello guys, so im a somewhat new player only have 70 hours in the game but i think its time for me to start getting some stash tabs im running out of space and sorting is becoming a nightmare, any tips on what is the most efficient thing to get/do? a friend told me buying poe 2 for the 300 coins and since the tabs are shared between games would be a good idea, but idk if there is any day of the month where we get deals or stuff like that, thanks in advance

split maple
#

next stash tab sale is in ~11 days

#

prolyl best to grab currency, fragment, maps and merchant stash tab

umbral saffron
#

Okay thanks i will keep it in mind and buy then 🙂

stuck phoenix
#

As a side note, there are other 30$ packs too

#

Which would give you cosmetics instead of an Early Access Key

#

But if your friend has poe2 EA I'd probably go for the poe2 EA key over cosmetics to play with them

heady cliff
sour karma
#

if you are farming essence you could use a quad tab..... or the essence tab

hard cliff
#

Welcome @umbral saffron

umbral saffron
#

and yeah i dont really care about cosmetics

#

at least not yet lol

sour karma
#

in-game its the h button i think

gaunt swift
#

you only get those cosmetics if you buy the premium track

#

oh nvm

#

I misunderstood

lean urchin
#

stupid crit CHANCE

sour karma
#

still decent just not amazing

gaunt swift
#

Does the fragment stash tab hold every single fragment in the game?

sour karma
gaunt swift
#

mkay ty

lean urchin
sour karma
livid quarry
whole bluff
#

Man, I got a tailoring orb. Thought I got a bit lucky in my single 4-wing heist. Then I see they're barely worth a divine

#

Blighted maps, essence, harvest, those actually seem profitable though

#

Alva is usually way more profitable than it currently is, when leagues have been around this long

#

Same with Einhar

hard cliff
whole bluff
#

It's like there's an iron blanket on most things atm

#

Or leaden blanket, idk

hard cliff
#

Wow

#

Maybe it's one of those weighted blankets for autistic people

#

GGG is trying to get us to take a nap and chill out

#

for a league

solar smelt
#

If you take a notable on the passive tree you can't double dip with somthing like an annoit right?

lean urchin
#

correct

hard cliff
#

That's illegal

solar smelt
#

Thought so just wanted to confirm lol

hard cliff
#

Why did ggg add anoints ?

lean urchin
#

??

hard cliff
#

Didn't always used to be a thing

#

it was added

#

presumably in blight league and kept

#

why ?

#

I have my theories

solar smelt
#

Why wouldn't they add annoits?

#

It's can be an extremely useful tool for allowing your builds to go further

lean urchin
#

we already had enchants on boots, helmet, gloves from lab

#

"what if we can enchant jewllery"

solar smelt
#

No one liked doing lab then and still to this day no one likes doing lab

hard cliff
#

I like finishing lab

solar smelt
#

Also enchants from lab weren't guranteed were they?

#

Either way I don't see why you would be against giving players more agency in the game

hard cliff
#

more choices cheapens all choices

#

Notables means the skill tree means less and thus class means less

#

takes away identity

#

is the counter argument

#

I don't agree tho I like annoints I think it's fine

#

Amulet being a heavy slot works anyways

#

Let that BITCH MADE ring slot know it's place

#

it needs TWO slots to match ONE amulet

#

Me spending divines

solar smelt
#

That is a counter argument, but the only annoint that matters is amulet one so each class and tree notable would still be valuable

hard cliff
#

everybody gets ONE

solar smelt
#

And that's fine

hard cliff
#

I've got extra curse on my current char 😎

solar smelt
#

Plus it gives blight value outside of being an alternative farm for loot

hard cliff
#

thank you blight

lean urchin
#

what would blight be without oils? just some boring TD

solar smelt
#

A lot of people like the tower defense aspect of blight

#

Personally I despise it, but to each their own

lean urchin
#

i think A LOT of "td enjoyment" is the loot explosion

solar smelt
#

I also hate ultimatum, but I'm not alone there

#

A lot of the enjoyment of this game is the loot explosion so it fits in perfectly

whole bluff
#

I like getting tangible amounts of something specific, much more than random drops

#

blight drops a fair amount of divines though in my experience

#

from the currency sacks

lean urchin
#

without oils this would just be compared time/efficiency to other mechanics. the oils are nice extra spice

whole bluff
#

I like that different content gives different rewards yeah

solar smelt
# lean urchin without oils this would just be compared time/efficiency to other mechanics. the...

Which I don't think any of the league mechanics should really be compared to each other because they all offer something unique that varies how players enjoy the game. The problem with this community imo is that too many players are pilled into doing things the most "efficiently" instead of just enjoying the game. A mechanic doesn't need to be the best thing for currency out there as long as it's sufficiently rewarding to the players who do like it.

whole bluff
#

I suppose the nice part about this half-dead economy is that I can heist enchant a body armour 2 months into the league without paying a fortune

solar smelt
#

Which is why I want them to bring tota back fully as I really don't see how adding it back into the game would unbalance everything

whole bluff
#

problem with tota wasnt the balance of the rest of the game as much as the balance of tota, imo

solar smelt
#

I didn't think it was unbalanced though?

whole bluff
#

the best builds had CI + EB, and were unhittable

solar smelt
#

What is EB?

whole bluff
#

and just vacuumed the entire enemy team to a void sphere

#

eldritch battery

solar smelt
#

Ah

whole bluff
#

the implementation didnt work

solar smelt
#

That could easily be changed with making certain mobs such as the leaders immune to the vacuum effect

whole bluff
#

tota was inspired by delve which just didnt work, if it had been inspired by only blight it might have worked

#

idk if their attempts at insane scaling putting players off too much was the sole reason they just scrapped it, or if they could implement it with blight/sanctum etc -like scaling then they still wouldnt cuz too samey or something? idk

#

someone made a build that should have one shot ubers in party most likely, and it took only a portion of a max scaled tota leaders hp

#

so players just vacuumed the enemies instead

#

in delve the scaling kinda works cuz you decide if you go deeper, in tota you automatically did if you won

gritty garnet
#

you'll have to wait to see how they balance it as the trial type in poe2

whole bluff
#

I think it can definitely work, mobs just need to be immune if there are any obscene CC skills in the players generic toolkit, titanic shells less absurd, scaling like a normal mechanic, maybe some extra tuning and options

#

I would probably even enjoy it if they added it like that to poe1

sour karma
#

i thought most people also abused minion armires to hit towers quick

whole bluff
#

nah, nothing the player did could deal any relevant dmg iirc

sour karma
#

so golems were the go to

#

just to delay enemies

whole bluff
#

early on, I had a nice time on SRS, but later on the enemies would kill you or your minions on hit unless it was chaos dmg and you had CI, and players could more or less not make a dent on anything, so you got evade cap, dodge cap, block caps, CI, EB for mana, and used void sphere

gritty garnet
#

it was taunts (minion/totems) that got nerfed, then stuns, then knockbacks

whole bluff
#

ah, fair enough

urban monolith
#

guys for necromancer, hydra spectre is better or frostbearer build ? fast all rounder

sour karma
#

just low base hp

gritty garnet
#

frostbearer has really good ear damage

urban monolith
#

that's what confusing me

#

area or projectiles

sour karma
#

t17 or nah?

urban monolith
#

i want t17 later yes

#

now i am on Summon Reaper build, time to switch

sour karma
#

the only problem with spectres is when they die they leave that zone

#

golems ignore that

#

otherwise i though both were solid unless they have changed

#

there was also a matron spider setup as well though i havent looked into it

urban monolith
#

i don't want them to die 🙁

sour karma
#

they dont really die

urban monolith
#

in ubers they will die

sour karma
#

they just turn specral until you roll ino a new map

normal hedge
#

praw is a really good allrounder

urban monolith
#

praw ?

#

never heart

#

heard*

normal hedge
#

poison ranged animate weapons

gaunt swift
#

Is it possible to get a level 21, 23% quality Vaal gem?

gaunt swift
#

triple corrupt when

normal hedge
#

next league when they rework alva

#

be ready to build your snake

heady cliff
gritty garnet
hard cliff
#

1 mirror holy crap

spare ore
crimson spear
#

There might not be an answer to this yet, but when the league ends what will happen to things Breachstones in Standard?

lean urchin
#

we dont have info about that, bet GGG doesnt know yet either

midnight escarp
#

does anyone buy stuff in person anymore? i havent sold a single thing in person this league

plush gulch
#

do you think it would be best in slot for zoomancer ?

lean urchin
#

no. all people i tried to buy from werent responding (mostly pricefixers)

midnight escarp
#

i do prefer the market for buying but not having any stash tabs just means i cant sell anything

normal hedge
#

i'll never check non instant trades ever again lol

#

also, its just 40 coins, and most people just converted premium stashes

#

(old players)

midnight escarp
#

yeah ofcourse theyre always cheaper and easier but now instead of premium tabs being ease of use it just feels like a straight necessity

spare ore
vast abyss
#

for resetting my atlas i need a crap load of orbs of unmaking in ssf... tujen the best way here?

vast abyss
#

oh no way

sour karma
#

also does full resets too

lean urchin
#

are you aware you got more than 1 atlas tree?

vast abyss
#

yah im trying to swap out the 3rd tree since im "done" with blight

#

i thought gold was only for passive skill points this is great news

#

only 220k gold! man yall just saved me so much time thank you!

steady elk
#

is it alright to run bleed slams on berzerker instead of slayer?

elfin shale
livid quarry
#

2027

dim thistle
#

End of 2026

livid quarry
#

2028

dim thistle
#

Lol

steady elk
storm shell
lean urchin
#

its like a chain of 5 people, its called a rumour at this point

thick goblet
#

pinging a mod is crazy

split pagoda
#

To be clear no it’s not alright kek

#

You dont really have any nodes to click

worldly bridge
#

shav and brutus are just

#

frozen lmao

normal hedge
#

they taking a break

worldly bridge
#

i think im just gonna LOGOUT from poe for now idk

#

ive been wanting to finish this char but ughghghh

#

this weird bug does it for me lol

#

dont wanna rerun tower

hard cliff
#

@worldly bridge

#

league is kindea dead so it's ok

#

see you in 3 months

worldly bridge
#

well i played to 100 on a chieftan in trade

#

and wanted to give FB a go for once

hard cliff
#

I've never gotten a single charecter to 100

worldly bridge
#

so i rolled ssf

hard cliff
worldly bridge
#

and ju8st been nibbling away at it

hard cliff
#

Flameblast ?

worldly bridge
#

ah yes the flame blast with a blue icon and a sword :p

#

frost blades

hard cliff
#

🤔

#

on what ?

worldly bridge
#

warden

#

big damage

hard cliff
#

Neat

worldly bridge
#

but idk lmao, just kinda uninterested

#

but i dont have anything else to do

#

and last epoch is kinda in the shitter from what ive heard

hallow raptor
worldly bridge
#

i just cant stop winning ahh image

normal hedge
#

it wouild be funny if it had no players lol

worldly bridge
#

i dont know what LE is gonna end up doing, in my eyes they squandered their consumer base with paid classes

#

i was ok with the accquasition

#

but once i heard they promised no paid character classes then announced paid character classes?

#

i was just kind of out

#

among many other problems with the game balance as a whole

thick goblet
#

also the fact their content cycle is absurdly slow

proud gorge
#

They're adding paid classes to LE? Wild

worldly bridge
#

last that i knew yeah

normal hedge
#

yup

proud gorge
#

that sounds like a case of some producer deciding that the game isn't making enough money and demanding that they increase monetization

worldly bridge
#

im sure the community wouldve been fine with paid expansions instead of classes lmao

sleek barn
#

paid expansions feels kind of weird

worldly bridge
#

thats what most games, especially rpgs, have done for decades

#

so at the very least theres more precedent for it

sleek barn
#

the only one I'm aware of is d2

worldly bridge
#

but afaik its the standard for games as a whole

#

call of duty has had paid expansions, skyrim, WOW etc

#

all the big name games

sleek barn
#

hm how does WoW do it?

normal hedge
#

hero siege has a paid act, but it costs $1.50

sleek barn
#

inaccesible area?

worldly bridge
#

no clue how wow does it, never played

sleek barn
#

im only curious for live service games

candid moon
#

I dont think that the current gemeration of gamers would take paid expansions well ngl

proud gorge
#

a lot of MMOs do paid expansions yeah

candid moon
#

One of the reasons I never got in to WoW

candid moon
sleek barn
#

what does paying get you realistically

#

access to more dungeons or smth?

proud gorge
#

I think people would probably be okay with paid expansions in a free to play game, one of the issues with MMO expansions is that they're paid expansions in an already subscription-based game

sleek barn
#

similar to d2 ig

hard cliff
#

I ain't paying for anything

#

maybe a few stash tabs or a mystery box

#

bla as a treat

candid moon
#

Just put in a sub and call it a day shrug

proud gorge
#

but yeah, the way MMO style paid content expansions typically work is that paying for them unlocks new areas, new dungeons, a higher level cap, and any items that come from that new content.

hard cliff
proud gorge
#

So, as a Path of Exile example, a "paid expansion" version of PoE would maybe include an expansion that unlocks a set of missions and maps associated with the Maven, an endgame system associated with the Maven, as well as the Maven boss fight and all content that drops from Maven-related content (awakened gems, Maven boss drops, etc)

#

though presumably the map-based content would have to be a bit more significant than it is in PoE

worldly bridge
#

basically anything on the scale of secrets of the atlas, invasion of the atlas etc

#

where as seasonal leagues would likely stay free

hard cliff
#

Leagues cost $5 to play after campaign

#

boom

#

mic drop hogan gif

worldly bridge
#

40+ leagues

proud gorge
#

nah, I'm just giving an example of how this sort of "paid expansion" type thing typically goes in an MMO

#

very few would do the "pay $5 per league" thing

#

and they're mostly pretty bad MMOs

worldly bridge
#

so uh to ask, any suggestions while i wait for 3.28

candid moon
#

Sub even if it would be more expensive at least feels like youre in control of your playtime instead of "I gotta play this expansion fully or I wasted my money"

proud gorge
#

side note, PoE is definitely an MMO, so it does have some of that incentive structure that MMOs have to push players into buying expansions

#

that being the feeling of being "left behind" and needing to engage with the newest paid content to "keep up"

candid moon
#

Sure

proud gorge
#

I think a lot of people forget that PoE is an MMO, just not the traditional form of one

worldly bridge
#

i dont consider it one

#

doesnt feel like it to me

candid moon
#

It just doesn't have raids, that's about it

#

Not that I'd want them

proud gorge
#

again, that's the point. "MMORPG" has come to refer to a very specific genre of typically tab targeting open world quest-based RPG

#

but even instance-based party-based RPGs with shared MMO hubs on a main server are definitely undeniably MMOs

#

PoE just has more in common with something like Warframe

candid moon
#

People called where winds meet an mmo AH

lean urchin
#

wait how is poe a mmo

hard cliff
#

Massive Multiplayer Online

#

it's massive

#

it's multiplayer

#

and then finally

#

it's online

lean urchin
#

"massive" didnt know that was playercount

hard cliff
#

It has a world wide server and it's a top ten steam popularity game at league start

worldly bridge
#

i think of all games to call massive poe is one of them

hard cliff
#

(besides china)

worldly bridge
#

is it still niche? yeah probably lmao

#

i struggle to get my friends to even entertain the idea of poe1 when i show it to them

candid moon
#

Mmo's are niche to begin with

proud gorge
#

the "Massive" in massively multiplayer just means that it's played on a central server that hosts all players

#

rather than local multiplayer played by 4 guys on a couch

worldly bridge
lean urchin
#

so counter strike is a mmo?

candid moon
worldly bridge
#

ive always wondered how they arent MORE mainstream. Probably due to some shitty stereotypes of neet gamers or smt

proud gorge
#

or non-local match-based multiplayer played by like 10 guys on a match

worldly bridge
lean urchin
#

that makes more sense ye

proud gorge
#

all PoE players inhabit a shared server, which is why you can see random players in towns

hard cliff
worldly bridge
#

(except china, because asian gaming markets are HUGEEEE)

candid moon
proud gorge
#

and match up with random players at the party finder in town

candid moon
#

Delayed dopamine release

#

Younger ppl prefer faster dopamine

worldly bridge
#

poe has some of the most instant dopamine ive ever experienced lmao

candid moon
#

Well, poe is not a standard mmo

worldly bridge
#

fair

candid moon
#

Was talking about more traditional

proud gorge
#

PoE just lacks some of the features we'd commonly associate with instance-based multiplayer games, those being "raid" type content that is designed around full party play, as well as party queues to match up for said content

candid moon
#

WoW costs an arm and a leg to get in to, ff14 idk, gw2 is dated

proud gorge
#

imagine queueing for a map

candid moon
#

And most other mmo's are just trash

proud gorge
#

yeah, but not only does nobody really do it, PvP isn't really a feature highly associated with MMOs, just something that typically tends to be included anyways

candid moon
#

PvP being main focus in an mmo usually comes with a catch of being card swiping simulator

proud gorge
#

hmm, I suppose the question is if a Rust-like counts as an MMO

candid moon
#

Throne and Liberty, Blade nd Soul

proud gorge
#

a Tarkov-like definitely doesn't, that's just a match-based multiplayer game with a very large match size

candid moon
#

I mean if you want to really stretch the definition you could say rust is an mmo

proud gorge
#

Battle Royales in general are just very large match-based multiplayer

#

but Rust is played on a (semi-)persistent world

candid moon
#

But then mmo starts to lose meaning as a term

proud gorge
#

I mean, Rust is definitely a border case

#

because either it's a match-based multiplayer game with really long matches that anyone can join at any time during the match

#

or it's a server-based MMO with a lot of servers and very very short "seasons"

worldly bridge
#

its uh

#

survival strategy?

candid moon
#

I'd put Rust in a category of Rust xdd

worldly bridge
#

i think strategy fits rust kinda well, with it being large scale and kinda team based but not like persistent

#

yeah that why people call 'em "rust likes" lmao

proud gorge
#

I mean, genre has very little to do with if it's an MMO or not

#

MMO and RPG are the two halves of the term MMORPG, but you can have non-RPG MMOs

#

they're just a lot less common since pretty much everything has an RPG element crammed in these days

worldly bridge
#

people like the gamba

#

and the progression

hard cliff
#

If you have 12 players in one team it's an mmo

proud gorge
#

but I'd call Warframe primarily an MMO third person shooter, with RPG elements

#

rather than an MMORPG

hard cliff
#

I played that bit back in the day

#

realized it was just grinding to grind to grind and quit

#

don't like games like that

lean urchin
#

what do you think poe is

proud gorge
#

it's hard to think of any non-progression MMOs, though, since the progression element is pretty embedded into MMOs

hard cliff
proud gorge
worldly bridge
worldly bridge
#

rsi speedrun

proud gorge
#

PoE is an MMOARPG, to distinguish it from match-based ARPGs like V Rising

#

lmao

#

but also not lmao V Rising is straight up a Rust-like ARPG

hard cliff
#

I don't think rust invented survival crafting rpgs

proud gorge
#

nah V Rising is genuinely a rust-like, it's played on a semi-persistent rust-style server where you have to build a base but the server keeps going even when you log off and other players can raid your base and steal your stuff

candid moon
#

Doesnt matter who did it first, only who did it right first

proud gorge
#

and you have to keep your base fed with resources so that it doesn't degrade

candid moon
#

Fortnite/pubg were not the first BR games but they are both basically pioneers of the genre

lean urchin
#

who cares who was first lmao

worldly bridge
#

like.. most people?

#

its important who gets in the door first

#

no one is gonna remember the crappy mobile BR's because fortnite overshadows them so hard

#

even in its earliest days

proud gorge
#

the thing that distinguishes Rust-likes from the more generic survival crafting game is the persistent server that keeps running while you're asleep, so as a result other players can raid your base while you're asleep

worldly bridge
#

no matter how innovative older games are the more popular ones will always have a step up in some regards

worldly bridge
#

thats what im saying

hard cliff
#

Riot stole the Dota 1 gameplay and then invented a genre called "moba" to try to get people to stop calling league a dota ripoff (which it is)

Now people unironically think league of legend guys got to rename the entire genre off their theft

candid moon
#

Misinterpreted then

worldly bridge
#

oh well. yeah pubg

hard cliff
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My hot take since we're on this topic anyways Pogott

worldly bridge
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i assumed yall understood me

proud gorge
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there might have been some other games before rust, but I call it Rust-like just because that's the most well known example of the genre

worldly bridge
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pubg and fortnite did it both at the "same time" basically

proud gorge
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same reason why they're called Rogue-likes, because Rogue was the most well known example of the genre back in the day

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eh nah

hard cliff
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Fortnite would be better if it had more serious gunplay