1┃general

[elfin shale]

Its really cool but its not good

Is it?

[pulsar dune]

6 per 100 vs 5 per 100

[elfin shale]

Damn okay

[pulsar dune]

Unless I'm doing my math wrong

[stuck phoenix]

Maffs

[pulsar dune]

Oh has no energy shield

That's unique phrasing

[stuck phoenix]

Not all that unique but it's often hidden like on Tabula

Though maybe that's just for the flavour

[pulsar dune]

Oh it's local, that makes sense

[stuck phoenix]

Lul

[pulsar dune]

I was confused since the global phrasing is not that

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

[elfin shale]

Honestly i thought Archmage was double that

Maybe ill PoB scales when i get home

[stuck phoenix]

PSotA is 24% at level 20

Dunno where he pulled 5% from

MotC is 6%

KBoC is 17% but phys

[elfin shale]

And Archmage support is 16% lol

I have been lied to

[stuck phoenix]

Where did you pull this

[elfin shale]

Being in the shield slot is reasonably unique though, normally its Manastorm but that has a couple of big asterisks

[pulsar dune]

Oh I looked at the mana cost line, my bad

[stuck phoenix]

Bwuh

[elfin shale]

Smh

[plush gulch]

crashing back to back

playing poe is tough

lowering graphic, renderer, updating driver

nothign work

even changed server

same issue on poe 2 big performance issue

my computer is good

idk how to fix it x)

[eternal hill]

You probably need to do some crash diagnostics

sounds like driver/win update related issue

if game has worked before

[whole bluff]

anyone know if there's a way to retrieve the filter I made before logging in that got scrubbed when I logged into filterblade?

what a shitshow, at least the technical aspect used to be good

[spice pecan]

try loading the quicksave?

at least whenever i have to log back into filterblade it always tells me to load the quicksave if i made any changes before relogging

[whole bluff]

how do I find the quicksave?

[spice pecan]

uhh, it should be at the bottom of the main filter select page when you load the website

[whole bluff]

it said there was some blue button, I refresh, no blue button and I'm in my merc league filter

[spice pecan]

like on the page where you choose which filter to load, it should have a popup at the bottom

[whole bluff]

I get automatically loaded into an old filter from merc league

[spice pecan]

hmm, weird

mine always defaults to whatever filter i last changed anything on

[tidal burrow]

hi

where is questions channel

[spice pecan]

just ask

[tidal burrow]

okay do warcry exertions stack

exerted attacks*

[spice pecan]

i believe so which is why overexertion support exists

[split maple]

well different warcries exert attack in different ways

do you mean if you have same warcry or smh?

[tidal burrow]

i have ancestral and seismic on rn with autoexertion

jus wondering if they stack

[nocturne saddle]

PoE2 performence were too shitty for me.
I am going to PoE1.
hoping to be able to play a proper flickerstike screen exloder 😄

[split maple]

these two wont stack

since ancestral only works on strikes

[tidal burrow]

oh i see

[brazen vector]

With investment, sure

[split maple]

and seismic only on slams

[tidal burrow]

oh i didnt know that ok

[nocturne saddle]

oh no...

[tidal burrow]

what warcries are good tgt

[split maple]

whats your main skill?

[tidal burrow]

can i just run enduring and seismix

oh uhm

[split maple]

enduring doesnt exert 😄

[tidal burrow]

erthshatter ground slam

[tidal burrow]

oh right

[split maple]

on earthshatter i was using that setup

general is only there to pop the spikes, it does nothing else

[tidal burrow]

oh shi wait

funny thing is i have blood magic on rn

[tawny aurora]

are these modifiers ever gonna change?

[spice pecan]

mods change when you change biomes

[sour karma]

mods are based on zone

[plush gulch]

@eternal hillthanks

[tawny aurora]

i see , thx

and if i change biom , when i go back does it change or stays the same?

[spice pecan]

it doesn't change if you leave and come back

[tawny aurora]

thx

[split maple]

yea get rid of that

with benching -mana cost on both rings and taking shitload of mana cost as life cost and recuded mana cost on tree you can get warcry mana cost to 0

and attack to single digits

[pseudo axle]

is there any functionality that Kaom's Roots lacks over the Unstoppable ascendency?

besides the movespeed

oh, kaom's doesn't prevent movespeed slows

thats so annoying

I want to drop my unstoppable forbidden flesh/flame setup, get roots, and free up my flesh/flame combo

[potent horizon]

What can I pair with winter orb I feel like I have a lot of open slots after 4 golem winter orb and frostblink

Some people do animate guardian but idk if it's worth it

[fluid harbor]

why is global chat now doing relationship advice

[spice pecan]

welcome to path of exile

[tawny aurora]

yeah, the guy is , how should i say this

wierd

[pseudo axle]

animate guardian can provide you with an incredible amount of survivability if you can do it properly

[potent horizon]

Ahhh that makes sense for what I was seeing then

Though the setups I saw were like 120 div just for the guardian

[pseudo axle]

animated guardians are indeed expensive to do the best setup possible

and remember, chris wilson personally executes your AG when it would be most financially ruinous for you

he's done it to me several times

[elfin shale]

You can no longer lose Guardian items tho

[pseudo axle]

oh

when did that happen

[elfin shale]

You just lose em for the map (which still sucks)

Last league

[pseudo axle]

oh so you can't re-summon an AG if it dies?

what if you portal out

[elfin shale]

Not in the same area no

[pseudo axle]

does it just respawn only in hideout?

[elfin shale]

Yeah, or when you enter a new map

[pseudo axle]

ah

idk if a t17 juiced boss is AG killing or not

I'd assume so

[potent horizon]

I feel like I'm lacking in winter orb damage and I wonder if it's just because I'm using winter orb over all

[elfin shale]

Very much so unless youre an actual minion build

[pseudo axle]

isnt' winter orb like...not the best cold damage spell anymore

I could be wrong

[elfin shale]

Its still solid afaik

[pseudo axle]

this tracks

[elfin shale]

Its not like the best but its still a 6/10 skill

[pseudo axle]

yeah if I'm gonna invest another 120 divs into this build though I'm just getting an axe

[potent horizon]

I just thought it would be fun and it is I just need more oomf

[pseudo axle]

also it feels weird but I think I liked headhunter more than mageblood?

jury's still out

[visual stream]

There few mods in t17 instant kill ur AG just put that in regex and u should be fine

[pseudo axle]

I think mageblood would feel better on a projectile character

meh

I'm just gonna keep farming until I feel like I have enough money for a fully kitted out new character with nimis shenanigans or something

[karmic gust]

one of the worst spells in the game that arent actual meme (so outside of stuff like conversion trap)

[potent horizon]

Winter orb slander

[spice pecan]

isn't the best cold spell like, ice spear or ice nova of frostbolts or wintertide brand

[karmic gust]

its not slander its just being realistic

[potent horizon]

I have to offset it with winter orb propaganda

[karmic gust]

you can make it work with a lot of money or sacrificing a lot of other aspects of your build

[visual stream]

Wintertude never in the top

[potent horizon]

Yeah I hit a cliff and I need to drop 100+ div to get a couple upgrades but man I have a skill issue and I spend div as fast as i make it lmao

[karmic gust]

but if you dont have some mirrors then generally winter orb will justbe 0dps

[pulsar dune]

Best cold spell is vortex of projection if we're being technical, but most setups can't do the trigger stuff it needs

I wonder how would just doing two button Necro projection work out

[spice pecan]

didnt they nerf vortex of proj this league too

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, it's just fully fair now

[spice pecan]

oh i guess cold snap of power technically exists, but that needs woke cascade to be playable iirc

[visual stream]

We need more cool skills ggg

[pulsar dune]

Pretty much just CWS or cocdd-style links feasible

[whole bluff]

If I wanna ignite, but don't wanna do impending doom cuz golem stacking helm, don't wanna do eviscerate cuz clunky as hell, and don't wanna do jiquani cuz clunky and weird, what skills are the most promising?

[visual stream]

Arc

[spice pecan]

selfcast hexblast is supposedly alright for ignite

[potent horizon]

They gotta add some oblivion style skill crafting for a league

[whole bluff]

Meh, low dmg

[pulsar dune]

EA, infernal blow, bodyswap of sacrifice, death wish.

[whole bluff]

Damn, all options are problematic it seems

[pulsar dune]

Flamewood if you cope

Armageddon brand on a budget

[whole bluff]

What effective DE is arc?

[visual stream]

DD

Cope

[whole bluff]

If arc DE is close to a decent 1 hit spell like soulrend of reaping or fireball, I will do it

[pulsar dune]

Fire trap of blasting, flame blast, slams.

[karmic gust]

0 :d

[whole bluff]

xD

[karmic gust]

cold snap of power isnt better cascade skill than reap pretty sure

[visual stream]

Flame blast probarly the only decent for ignite

But they are ass

[spice pecan]

people run cascade on reap?

[karmic gust]

yes since the skill was released?

[whole bluff]

I do get giga cast speed and AoE from elementalist

[spice pecan]

idk i dont play selfcast builds

[visual stream]

Not enought to feel comfortable

[karmic gust]

cold/fire reap was like the most popular caster build for quite a while

[visual stream]

Atleast that go for me

Reap u need to play in melee range

Just why

[whole bluff]

My safeguarding golem is at 78%, so that's 420% increased effect

Without full gear

[elfin shale]

Literally 4x damage with 0 AoE investment (or like 40% i forgor)

[visual stream]

Yeah agains "melee hit"

[whole bluff]

I know

[visual stream]

Good luck with alk the bull sht shot at u

[whole bluff]

It's 1 golem of many

I got 25k Eva and 9k ES so it's kinda fine

And some spell block

[visual stream]

That sound like bandage fix with 6 portal defence

[whole bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It's not finished

[visual stream]

At this point why dont play tornado of element ?

[potent horizon]

If yall had to choose only one would you do awakened cold pen or some other setup like increased crit damage

[whole bluff]

Why would I play a random hit skill with tons of dot multi, global dmg, cast speed

AoE

[karmic gust]

turbulence needs a lot of support from ascendancy to actually do damage

elementalist doesnt give enough

[visual stream]

Joke on u i have herald for aoe

[karmic gust]

especially when big part of elementalist is the cast speed you are wasitng anyway

[visual stream]

Yah

But its fun

[karmic gust]

i mean if you want phys spell for clear speed on ele there is shattershard

[spice pecan]

i think i've only seen tornado of elemental turbulence on like inquis

[karmic gust]

and shatterhsard is way better than turbulence

i would only play turbulence with mercs or on assa

[visual stream]

Try it before wouldnt recomment it

[karmic gust]

and mercs are gone

and assa sucks

[visual stream]

The tornado goo to sloww

[karmic gust]

so i would just not play turbulence

[visual stream]

Me need zoom zoom tornado

[whole bluff]

Maybe I do some poison thing

Like FRoSS

[karmic gust]

poison shattershard its time

[potent horizon]

I think I'll retire winter orb I only used it for one day but it's time to find a better cold spell

Might do vortex of proj like you suggested

[karmic gust]

can also do ice spear + ice spear of splitting for clear

if you want proj cold skill

just pretend you are bow build with 2 6 links

[potent horizon]

Well tbh I just want one that looks cool

And can do harvest rotation

[hard cliff]

you have a lot of options for better than winter orb

so that's good news

[potent horizon]

Hahaha yeah winter orb is funny but I swear my transmuted frostblink does more damage sometimes

[whole bluff]

Ignite is just in a bad place I guess

[pulsar dune]

In better place than most paradigms tbh

[whole bluff]

Maybe, game is kinda messed up for a long time

[nocturne saddle]

hi, so I need some absolute starter build. I'm a returning player coming from PoE2.

[whole bluff]

I could do ashes of the stars cuz it synergises with golems anyway (makes them tankier from the gem lvl, and increases their buff effect). Get a 21/20 arc for 9 base chains, 10 with ashes, 11 with a sufficiently lvl empower. Then it has a DE of 120%×(1+165%)

318%, so it's still not even good

[pulsar dune]

Arc is just awful

[whole bluff]

There's some slammer, elementalist golem stacking, wanders, idr more

Mamba poison

[pulsar dune]

Maybe there's something to be done if you shotgunned it with penance Mark, but at a baseline it's a bad spell.

[whole bluff]

Rip

[nocturne saddle]

hmm... back when I played spark and rightios fire was the shit

no idea what anyof these

[pulsar dune]

Spark is giganerfed

[gritty epoch]

Arc has been bad during enki's time

[pulsar dune]

RF is viable, see pohx.net

[nocturne saddle]

as an absolute starter?

[gritty epoch]

Spark is just cope now yeah

[scarlet sonnet]

Yes

[nocturne saddle]

😄
\

[whole bluff]

RF is still functional. Idk if I'd call it good as of the last 8 years, but it's tanky, comfy, and has a good guide

[nocturne saddle]

glowy boi is back 😄

[pulsar dune]

Yup, act 2 to red maps

[gritty epoch]

Any preferred playstyles?

[pulsar dune]

And has a solid endgame transition these days

[nocturne saddle]

I love minions, but I don't think that's possible in PoE1?

[scarlet sonnet]

Definitely is

[gritty epoch]

Minions are viable for sure

[pulsar dune]

Oh minions are really good this league

[whole bluff]

Hroc login

[nocturne saddle]

again remember I got 0 currency, assume SSF basicly.

[scarlet sonnet]

Ngl, doesnt feel like a minion build xD

[whole bluff]

I guess

[scarlet sonnet]

Do you want permanent minions, or temp ones you keep summoning?

[pulsar dune]

I don't quite know the correct minion leaguestarters tbh

[nocturne saddle]

perma obv 😛

[whole bluff]

Same

[pulsar dune]

IIRC it's level with srs and move on from there

IG forged frostbearers it is

[scarlet sonnet]

Don't think zoomancer changed much

[whole bluff]

I heard someone praising SRS and was like, what is this 2023?!?

Maybe SRS is good though

[nocturne saddle]

oh.. also.. I will probably be going for whatever low hanging achivements there are if that matters.

[whole bluff]

They say that's 40/40 in 3.27

[gritty epoch]

Wrong channel

[pulsar dune]

That sounds like poe2

[ivory trail]

apologies.

[nocturne saddle]

how far could I work with RF?

[pulsar dune]

Red maps, pinnacles if you're skilled

[nocturne saddle]

skill is not on the menu 😛

[nocturne saddle]

can you link build?

[whole bluff]

And then with giga currency you can probably do ubers, if you like wasting time and being tanky

[pulsar dune]

Pohx.net has it all

The guy really loves RF

[whole bluff]

I just realised I wanna use ashes of the stars. Is there any skill where that makes sense on ignite (that's better than arc)?

[late lava]

anyone help me for viper napuatzi pls im in standard league

[whole bluff]

#2┃general

[pulsar dune]

Voltaxic burst, flame surge of combusting

[whole bluff]

I'll look at flame surge, I know the painful thing called VB and dont wanna do it

[pulsar dune]

Fair fair

[whole bluff]

combusting looks nice

not many skills have a use case for sadism

[pulsar dune]

Yea, it's neat

[grand stratus]

Yo guys, does anyone sell fragment for uber elder/shaper regular elder? On ps

[normal hedge]

asking here is useless

check faustus

if theres none selling put a bid and wait

thats console market for you

[grand stratus]

Ye i did almost a week ago rip

I need that voidstone but im unlucky af, always droppinf those fragments i already have

[split maple]

so harvest swap them to correct ones?

[grand stratus]

???

[split maple]

check your horticrafting bench

[normal hedge]

guy dmed me in reddit to ask a loan wtf

ah looks lik,e someone offered it to him but deffo not me

[tranquil sedge]

wave2:flash4:doubling gp for free trade me!!

[grand stratus]

Lol ty done, i didnt read it anywhere

[visual stream]

I dont understand why ppl begging for stuff isnt building up currency is the fun point of this game ?

Or is it just me

[tranquil sedge]

so they can play for 3 days then quit

[normal hedge]

people are bad at making money

if they beg they can buy gear and quit the day after

[pulsar dune]

Ehh, the early parts of making currency are a bit dull

[visual stream]

Its the best part

[split maple]

idk whats the problem, like if you need currency just go to faustus

dude got everything

[pulsar dune]

I definitely find myself having more fun around the two digit divine mark onwards

[split maple]

even alts

[tranquil sedge]

also its just incentivizing idiots to remain idiots

[pulsar dune]

It's where you can actually start crafting, investing into maps, getting good items and such

[tranquil sedge]

hey rilay gave me 1d this league i bet i can beg next league too

global 1: anyone got a spare tabula pls

[normal hedge]

idk every league theres a easy 20d/h strat, like betrayal you just need 1 scarab and you dont even need to setup a board. People just dont wanna play the game

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, it's what I usually do

[tranquil sedge]

20 would be a dream for people like that

they'd be happy at 5d/hr lmao

which is like literally just do anything and sell the loot, literally anything

[normal hedge]

and like every leaguestarter can farm betrayal

[pulsar dune]

But y'know, I wouldn't be upset if I ended up skipping it because of a lucky drop or whatever.

[tranquil sedge]

a lucky drop is fine lol

begging aint a lucky drop

[pulsar dune]

There is only so much betrayal Alva a man can take

[tranquil sedge]

ive enjoyed dropping exalts in campaign twice when they were the main currency

was great

but i didnt go asking for handouts for that

[pulsar dune]

I mean, it's the same thing, either way you skip the early progression.

[tranquil sedge]

its not the same thing at all

one is rng and one is being an annoying shit

(and it also just makes you more dependent on getting another handout again later)

[pulsar dune]

I was reacting to this

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[tranquil sedge]

like if it was a friend starting mid-league and i know they're not new to the game yea i'll happily load them up if they want even if they don't ask

doesn't ruin the experience and like you said they can skip some of the earlier progression coz sure why not lets get to the endgame build making faster

but ppl who go outta their way to ask for donations are cringe

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, it is annoying

[visual stream]

The only donations i ever make to ppl is 100 wisdom scrolls

[split maple]

here's your hollow palm and 50c, have fun

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[visual stream]

A large chunk of Wisdom scroll in early was actually nice ngl

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, it's kinda irrelevant now, you get enough for vendors now that you can id for free

But honestly act 1 is still a bit of an issue

[visual stream]

True

[tranquil sedge]

i vendor bubblegum in early acts for wisdoms

[pulsar dune]

Same same

[visual stream]

Probarly next tims i will hand out 50 trans orb then

[pulsar dune]

That'd be huge

Fixes your benchcrafting options

[brazen vector]

[frigid wedge]

groovin

swap poo2 to mc and u got me rn

[brazen vector]

🖥️

[normal hedge]

3.27 :glorpHop: 3.28

[brazen vector]

How do you get back to 3.27

[normal hedge]

in my dreams just like i do with 3.26

[brazen vector]

3.23 then

And 3.19

[normal hedge]

i dont remember what 3.23 was

[brazen vector]

And 2.8

[brazen vector]

Affliction

[normal hedge]

my pc couldnt handle affliction so i quit sadd

[brazen vector]

Awh ;(

My old shitbox handled it super well

On a cws chief

[normal hedge]

poison tornado shot + abyss was too much for it

[plush gulch]

i didn't try affliction

I was pissed about necropolis

needed a cooldown

[brazen vector]

Necropolis was super cool too

[plush gulch]

hated it

[normal hedge]

huh

[brazen vector]

I like the gravecrafting!

[plush gulch]

nice

[normal hedge]

it was affliction > necropolis > settlers

so u're from the future?!

[plush gulch]

necropolis was before affliction

[normal hedge]

no

[brazen vector]

No

Affliction then necropolis

[nocturne saddle]

WE ARE SO BACK BOOOIIISSSSS

[normal hedge]

crucible > ancestor > affliction > necropolis > settlers > mercs > keepers

[brazen vector]

We are?

[tawdry olive]

back then i wasn't in the hyperoptimizing mindset so i just threw whatever into the grave and it was okay
i think the current me probably wouldn't enjoy it

[plush gulch]

oh

my brain

[tawdry olive]

ok then again async trade is a thing

[plush gulch]

how

[nocturne saddle]

yeeee just returned to the game 😄

[normal hedge]

yes, december 2023 > march 2024

[nocturne saddle]

it's so over guys we are so fucked...

[brazen vector]

Timetravel ezpz

https://tenor.com/view/tardis-doctor-who-gif-26828880

[normal hedge]

nice mob

[tawdry olive]

people speak of affliction like it was the height of ancient civilization so sometimes you get the impression it was like 5-10 years ago or something, then you remember it was 3.23

[brazen vector]

Tbf between that and now we had 4 leagues which one of them was settlers

[plush gulch]

my brain is fried

[brazen vector]

Feels like 5 years ago

[normal hedge]

boat league fucked up eveyrthing

[plush gulch]

I was sure necro was before affliction

[brazen vector]

Now youre sure that it wasn't:3

[normal hedge]

we could have 3 leagues instead of one

[plush gulch]

I remember i was pissed about necropolis and didn't come back for the next one then I heard people said it was insane with wildwood and insane loot

I guess im schizophrenic

happens

[brazen vector]

French

[tawdry olive]

what too much simus does to a mf

[plush gulch]

necropolis was grave crafting, lantern and every map having crazy mob

that you were screwed if you tried to wing it your own build

[brazen vector]

Divination scarab of completion my beloved

[normal hedge]

lantern wasnt a big deal

[brazen vector]

Being able to select your t17 mob times through all flames was super cool

Types*

[normal hedge]

transforming everything in toads was funny

[plush gulch]

it's been a few league I find the mecanics very tedious

all the time

[brazen vector]

I remember the chaos allflame with 809184 chaos orb monster and you have to pick up 5000 chaos one by one

[plush gulch]

like takes lot of time, forced to interact

[finite quail]

I really hope the league mechanic next league is better

[brazen vector]

[finite quail]

That was so bad

[normal hedge]

i really hope its not a crafting league or something outside maps

[finite quail]

And waiting for divine maps

[brazen vector]

Controller enjoyers had it easy

[tawdry olive]

https://pobb.in/9aHOtoCLJ7nI
i made this
its horrible dont laugh

[brazen vector]

32k ehp

[normal hedge]

the secret tech

[finite quail]

46.88% crit

[normal hedge]

dual claws

[finite quail]

[finite quail]

instant leech gamers

[tawdry olive]

i winged the whole thing

[normal hedge]

wait

[brazen vector]

I play coc dd inquisitor in 3.24

[normal hedge]

legacy taste of hate 😭

[plush gulch]

ngl claws are so ugly

as a weapon

why

😅

[finite quail]

wdym

[brazen vector]

They are cool af

[finite quail]

what do you mean they're ugly

they're weapons

[tawdry olive]

god that was my biggest jackpot of that league in SSF, from grav div card stack

[plush gulch]

this

I find it ugly

[finite quail]

beauty isnt a thing that matters

[normal hedge]

imperial claw is nice af

[finite quail]

for weapons

[normal hedge]

looks like a scarab head

[finite quail]

And tbh imperial claw looks cool

[brazen vector]

Just add influenence and petals

[plush gulch]

influence is goated

make stuff looks so good

the best is replica

so nice

[tawdry olive]

i miss legacy taste of hate

[normal hedge]

miss legacy phys taken as

[brazen vector]

I miss legacy zerphies flask

[normal hedge]

miss old schizo unique shield

forgot the name of it

[tawdry olive]

This was the "evolution" of that scuffed ass build in 3.26 https://pobb.in/sTR0GgcCfaJQ

i learned a lot more about the game, also got lucky with a mageblood in SSF

[normal hedge]

mahuxotl

[plush gulch]

https://pobb.in/TkghM54bfU91 my favorite build 🦆

[split maple]

Never mind the mageblood

[plush gulch]

phrecia

[split maple]

Is that ssf Nimis?

[tawdry olive]

yes

[split maple]

Gg

[tawdry olive]

i kid you not, the first ever uber eater i ever did

[normal hedge]

did you farmed it in act 8?

[tawdry olive]

it just dropped

that said this build is too paper so it still doesnt feel very good to play, my aim was just to get to 100m dps in SSF finally

i did most of the content with blue life Fross/trickster metaslaving

[plush gulch]

me when i make build is 23 ehp and 1M dmg

big talent

[normal hedge]

dunno

just slap block

and 5k hp

you'll never die in t16s

[whole bluff]

nothing like noting "Oh, my build is bricked. I need to fix my mana reservations cuz I cant rely on my skills working", then noticing that you have the toilet sound in the map

[split maple]

Well it's admiral

[tawdry olive]

yea complete ass chest piece

[brazen vector]

Toilet sound? XD

You mean drowning orbs?

[split maple]

Still 4x the Max hits of my Merc build lol

[whole bluff]

nah, the deal no dmg 3 seconds every 10

I suppose it's a plumbing noise, not specifically a toilet noise

[tawdry olive]

oooooooohhh

[brazen vector]

how can we make poe2 even worse?
drowning orbs
Monsters that spawn drowning orbs!

[tawdry olive]

i was trying so hard to figure out wtf you meant with toilet sounds

[whole bluff]

the thing with drowning orbs is that life, defences, resistances, criticals, inc dmg taken, and drowning orbs make all of that irrelevant

it's like GGG gave themselves an opting out option in trying to kill players with their own systems

sometimes a player just has to die

[brazen vector]

What doesn't make it irrelevant is action speed slows because you get fucked of you are action speed slowed in a drowning orbs!

[whole bluff]

grumble grumble

[tawdry olive]

players got too good at solving their game, devs be like "fuggit, you just die"

i wonder if they bring mercs back in some way next league, they said they would

... but maybe it happens 10 years later

[brazen vector]

I assume they'll keep them as they are just make gear not changeable

[tawdry olive]

> Steps into T17
> mercenary dies

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-iv-dolph-lundgren-captain-ivan-drago-if-he-dies-he-dies-dies-gif-4956349

Also you still keep the quant bonus

[tawdry olive]

Based, free quant

[brazen vector]

Plus you get to decide if you want them or not that way, if its worth it to make monsters harder or nah

And if you spawn a merc with dod or something like that youre set

[plush gulch]

I thought those would be more valuable

seems like a big flop

even got a regal orb foulborn

same thing

[tawdry olive]

They’d be 100% worth it for things like T16 harvest rush, merc might even survive even with trash gear

[brazen vector]

Check foulborn ex

[plush gulch]

thats better 😮

[plain wadi]

is there any way to turn off merchant tab notifications? im getting spammed selling cheap tablets

[brazen vector]

30c?!

[plain wadi]

cant find it on settings

[whole bluff]

another day, another opportunity to learn the hard way that impending doom cant damage some enemies

unless by splash

[plush gulch]

I think it's people asking to buy it for 30c

and other people selling it at 80c and higher

[brazen vector]

Yea but they used to be multiple div x3

[plush gulch]

pohx league

[brazen vector]

Ah

[plush gulch]

[tawdry olive]

Damn I was buying these at 300c+ before I quit

[brazen vector]

Pohx league

[plain wadi]

yep sry, i just realized im in the wrong channel.

[plush gulch]

happens

[tawdry olive]

Oh right… I did 4 stones and bailed, didn’t check the economy for that

[plush gulch]

dnt worry

[brazen vector]

Merchant tabs also exist in poe, so you could also have the same option in poe (you do)

And tablets are just sextant/scarab hybrids

[tawdry olive]

Ok next league sexrabs confirmed

[normal hedge]

sexrabs

[brazen vector]

I thought we do, maybe im mistaken

[tawdry olive]

wtf that sounds wrong…

[grizzled lily]

avg connor comments

[normal hedge]

true

[tawdry olive]

Haven’t had mead in awhile

[grizzled lily]

honestly i dont know whats mead

is it watered down beer or

[normal hedge]

its fermented honey

[grizzled lily]

🤨

[brazen vector]

Honey wine, stuff vikings drank supposedly

[steel light]

i was wondering how come ff/ff aspect of carnage is so expensive, i didn't know other classes outside of marauder can use it too

[tawdry olive]

wait what?

[normal hedge]

they cant

[tawdry olive]

im very sure thats not true, and the jewel is just expensive because its literally 40% more damage

for any marauder builds, of which int/acc stack or str stackers looking for damage could use them

[steel light]

ok my bad, i mistook jugg/champion

[shrewd rock]

Its generally bc jugg and chief dont do dmg

So doing 40% more dmg helps

[zinc stump]

Jugg does dmg :(

[elfin shale]

Is it worth spellslinging DD of Chain Reaction for Corpse Pact?

[pulsar dune]

I think you do VD of seething with spell cascade

[elfin shale]

Ah yeah that does seem better

Should i use Spellslinger Desecrate or bite the bullet and use Corpsewalker

[hard cliff]

that's a real compliment

If someone said that to me I would be happy

[steady elk]

is flicker strike a thing this league?

[hard cliff]

I don't think anyone can stop flicker strike from being a thing

[hard cliff]

I don't know sorry

hope you're having a good weekend bird friend

[steady elk]

what am i looking at?

[steady elk]

oh word. well im pretty much brand new (even tho i have 80 hours following someone's league start up until t10 maps from last league). i can't find any guides for flicker strike

[grizzled lily]

well someone has low standards

[steel light]

2% of league are flicker strike?

[grizzled lily]

i wouldnt like being called amish

[hard cliff]

you sound useless then

[hard cliff]

raising a barn is hard af work and making mead is a deep and complex craft that makes a lot of people happy

[finite quail]

flicker strike is always a thing

[steady elk]

should i run some sunder league starter and then figure out myself how to run flicker strike once act end? or does anyone have a guide?

[hard cliff]

that's a great spread of skills

[steel light]

damn, 15% are kb/kboc, nerf gun inc

[hard cliff]

nobody said that's all he can do

[hard cliff]

I'm sure their are non bait guides for this league

[finite quail]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/category/build-guides?filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][value]=archive&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][operation]=!%3D&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][value]= &filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][operation]=NOT EXISTS&filter[misc][taxonomy]=taxonomies.misc&filter[misc][value]=poe-league-starter

[hard cliff]

I don't play flicker but it's got a pretty core niche following

[finite quail]

There's some guides there

and for a flicker strike guide

just look it up on google or youtube i guess

or go to poe.ninja and take a look at what people are building around it

[hard cliff]

I love using the gigantic af url version of maxroll

[steady elk]

i did and most of them are from 3.26 hence why i was asking here

[hard cliff]

A guide from one league ago isn't neccesarily unusable

I'm not trying to bust your balls but I'm pretty sure this is against tos

[finite quail]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=3.27+flicker+strike+guide&sp=EgIIBQ%253D%253D

[somber sundial]

my bad g

[hard cliff]

Yeah idk just letting you know

[finite quail]

thats against tos pretty sure

also like

just go and farm a bit bro

1 div is nothing

[somber sundial]

true

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kot-lock-in-lock-in-gif-14433487186457527318

I should go try a t17 with my build

[split maple]

i am slowly realizing there is a lot of shit synth mods in jewel pool

[solar smelt]

How much str do you generally want for wanders?

[pulsar dune]

Strstack wander probably like 3k

[somber sundial]

wanna buy a frost blink of wintry blast for 110 chaos

👉 👈

[solar smelt]

Jesus, just getting to 1k is hard enough without catering all of your equipment towards boost strength ugh

[plush gulch]

what do you like to pick at league start ? i rushed the +20 pts, took lot of kirac missions, lot of extra maps then jun

im in yellow map

even if i miss quite a lot of white maps

that don't drop

[finite quail]

always essences

[finite quail]

2-3k

Being below 2k is manageable but feels bad

[plush gulch]

the tree is very strong 😮

[hard cliff]

their is no way that cost 110 c wtf

is this ruthless

[pulsar dune]

Fbowb is usually an expensive trans gem

[split maple]

so close yet so far 😢

[somber sundial]

uh

no

[livid quarry]

have u heard of the man who spent the entire league rerolling magic jewels for adorned

didnt finish his build

[pulsar dune]

2k should be pretty free, but all your gear should be strength or strength payoffs pretty much.

Rathpit globe is forgivable if you need the damage

[hard cliff]

@somber sundial

I can help

let me LOG IN

[whole bluff]

Attribute stackers usually use extremely specific gear and are relatively expensive

[split maple]

yo complaining always works

[hard cliff]

it's not a story the jedi will tell you

[somber sundial]

all g no worries

i have the jewel i needed

[hard cliff]

@somber sundial
I didn't ask ?

[somber sundial]

now i wait for keepers to end

[pulsar dune]

Can't you harvest swap res?

[somber sundial]

wat

nvm

[split maple]

yeah i can, thats why this part is done 😄

[pulsar dune]

Oh mana tier

I see I see

[split maple]

well 1/10 done...

[whole bluff]

Wait, SSF adorned?

[split maple]

yea got a lil toy

[whole bluff]

Wtf, damn

Gratz

[solar smelt]

Currently i have the iron fortress on and I guess i need to cater the other stuff too. Replica Alberons is the goal im working towards for boot

[whole bluff]

I capped my spellblock, still couldn't finish 175q t17

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, strstack without the boots is a bit ehh

[whole bluff]

The boots is usually the build, unless you use replica bow or synth weapon etc

[pulsar dune]

There's Brutus lead sprinkler

[whole bluff]

Ah, yup

Forgot about that one

But until boots, use something like sprinkler

Synth is usually a bit tricky to justify, bow is supposed to not feel good

[pulsar dune]

Synth exists on every base

[hard cliff]

@somber sundial
Add me

[whole bluff]

Yeah, synth is cool but kinda advanced imo

[pulsar dune]

I did strstack bows this league, main issue was kinda low attack speed (and generally just low investment), but pretty good otherwise

[hard cliff]

XxBoilingBloodxX

[split maple]

settle moment

[whole bluff]

I did str stack long ago. It was my highest dmg char when I made it

[pulsar dune]

I don't think anything is beating my exarch farmer for quite a while

[whole bluff]

My devouring totem usually one framed ushaper

[pulsar dune]

I had like half a bil prestack.

[whole bluff]

So that one is prolly highest I've done

[hard cliff]

Vendor gains let's gooooooooooo

[elfin shale]

Like, Flamewood?

[whole bluff]

I don't remember my dmg per totem. But I usually shocked for a decent amount, froze, chilled, heatshiver

[whole bluff]

Nah, back in crucible

[elfin shale]

Oh lol

[hard cliff]

Crucible looked crazy

was that the highest player power has ever gone in a main league ?

In terms of added temp power

[whole bluff]

The totem node might have been. Otherwise I'd have guessed affliction, but idk tbh

totem node was just insane

but maybe other stuff too, idr

I think I started late, saved up for a totem bow, did like 500 uber shaper, 100-200 uber sirus, maybe 50-100 uuelder, got my first mageblood, etc, but I didnt mess around that much

or I did some eye of winter poison of questionable efficiency, but it was fun

[elfin shale]

Are there any traps with an abnormally short duration

Most are 4s

[pulsar dune]

Just hollowness afaik

[elfin shale]

Dang idk if that would work

I want to do mine traps

I feel like the targeting wpuld fail

[hard cliff]

I can give you advice on a normal hollowness build

lol

[pulsar dune]

Yea that does sound problematic.

[elfin shale]

Is there any way to reduce the duration besides Sunblast

Iirc skill effect duration doesnt work

[pulsar dune]

No

[whole bluff]

a mastery to apply duration modifiers to trap duration would be cool

[hard cliff]

So true

[vague storm]

Just came back for new season, bro what happened to the market board?

[past mantle]

No.

[hard cliff]

What market board specifically

[vague storm]

The one in each town

[hard cliff]

we just got async trade so most people use that now and currency exchange is still the same as last league

[brazen vector]

[fickle glen]

Can quivers be enhanced with quality?

[split maple]

a console thing Piragon

[brazen vector]

No

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-chat-juju-juju-cat-gif-16905771

[vague storm]

Did they think console played would start trading on their phones? Is hard to read all that tiny text, I need to read the items on the big screen

[split maple]

there should be some way to access async ingame

dunno where in console

[fickle glen]

Hey is it easier to play on controller or m&k on this game?

[brazen vector]

Yes

(Personal preference matters)

[fickle glen]

What’s yours

[brazen vector]

Depends on who i am

[fickle glen]

Who are you!

[brazen vector]

Us

[fickle glen]

This is going no where

[hard cliff]

That's a known troll just ignore him @fickle glen

[split maple]

wait a sec jewelry deli orbs drop ilvl83 synth ghastly jewels 🤔

[brazen vector]

I told you the answer above

[split maple]

i dont need to farm sacred lifeforce 😄

[hard cliff]

M&K probably easier but I know a few pc players who use a controller for general gameplay

[vague storm]

Okay I found the trade market in the main menu, so far its terrible compared to the old market board. I gotta scroll down through every category one at a time x.x

[brazen vector]

Thats me

[hard cliff]

It looks awful for actually sorting items tho

[split maple]

use search

[fickle glen]

It really is

Especially when equipping skills

[brazen vector]

For crafting mkb, casual mapping controller, bossing mkb etc

[hard cliff]

What sucks about controller on pc is you have to go back to the main menu and switch back to keyboard you can't juse use both at the same time

I have no idea why

[fickle glen]

I wish they allowed console to use m&k

[hard cliff]

It'd be cool but might give you a big advantage if you don't have one

[fickle glen]

Probably due to older programming

[brazen vector]

Also wdym known troll >.< @hard cliff

[vague storm]

I don't want to, I want to browse through all the options for a category. I'm on HC league so there's not many sellers

[fickle glen]

Trolls live under bridges

[split maple]

🤔

[split maple]

i assume there is like 2 of you playing hc console so late in league

so maybe just ask the dude 😄

[vague storm]

And I can't figure out how to nose over to the list when I get one T.T

[brazen vector]

Dori merc ring, gg

[fickle glen]

Negative???

[elfin shale]

Kinda slick

[elfin shale]

Mirrored Items can have their stat ranges increased by up to 2x but can also turn negative

Er

[fickle glen]

I can’t tell if that’s good or bad

[elfin shale]

Jewellery mirrored via Reflective Mist

Items mirrored via Mirror of Kalandra arw just copied

[split maple]

its what one could use on doryani accustacker if one had even less budget than sense

[elfin shale]

Usually bad though negative lightning res has use

[brazen vector]

Negative lightning res is good for stuff like doryanis prototype

[elfin shale]

I mean its a good ass INT stack ring for SSF isnt it

[split maple]

i mean catalyzed basic ass ring with t1 int and all atrib is already almost 90 int

so you would only use that if you wanted to go doryani which in ssf is like fundamentally impossible

since you either need pof sublime or greatwolf

[hard cliff]

Quick send this back in time to yourself in Merc league

[split maple]

now if that was +int +mana +light res i would go buy a lottery ticket 😄

[vague storm]

Yeah this new market is buns

[elfin shale]

Fair ig, and if you're not doing misted you can use a heist ring

[fickle glen]

How do I get more missions from Kirac?

[split maple]

run maps

or use a beastcrafting recipe

there is few nodes on atlas that boost chance to get kirac mission on map completion too

[fickle glen]

Are there things like “dailies” in Poe?

[elfin shale]

Settlers content ig

[fickle glen]

Ok

[elfin shale]

Which is the stuff in Kingsmarch

[fickle glen]

Idk why at first I thought kirac missions were dailies

So I was going through them like nothing

[elfin shale]

Yeah nah

Save em as long as you can tbh

[fickle glen]

Will do ty

[hard cliff]

If they make a new league

I think I will play Slayer

what's good on him ? Slams ?

I kinda wanna try slams on a build that doesn't use ancestral call

sorry

that's not it

whatever the super slow attack slam support is

[split maple]

i mean leg is already announced

[hard cliff]

We'll see

[split maple]

there is some guide for bleed slams on slayer

prolly will still work next leg

[hard cliff]

ooof

Nothing for just slam slams ?

[split maple]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/pob/qk1260y5

[hard cliff]

Why would you play bleed off of glad ?

https://i.imgur.com/rb1p3iJ.png

Lategame Schizophrenic

[finite quail]

Market board?

Idk how it works for console but that was never a thing on pc

What happened this league is that asynchronous trade was added

So now you can list things for sale, go offline, and people can still buy it

No player interaction is needed anymore

There should be a button on your gamepad that opens up the ingame market now

[vague storm]

They had that for console already

[finite quail]

Or you might be able to open it from a menu

[finite quail]

Its not "in every town" now

You have access to it everywhere

by pushing a button

dunno which one it is for console

[vague storm]

It was here. And the new in menu trade menu is TERRIBLE to navigate compared to the old one.

Probably a lot easier on PC

[split maple]

time to get stranded

[vague storm]

But on console it's cancer

[finite quail]

The woes of playing on console

Shrimply get a pc

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jonklerv2-jonkler-joker-gif-17800025600586779753

[hard cliff]

Only $800 for ram

then you buy the rest

[finite quail]

bro thats not even a joke anymore

the 16gb ddr4 memory sticks I bought months ago 60$ a piece are now 165$ a piece

[hard cliff]

Basically the exact situation for the 32 I bought before last league

I got so lucky 😩

You really want 32 for poe 1 also

Massive performance gain from that but I also have a bajillion tabs open

[split maple]

can someone eli5 me how to actually get 300 deli splinters per map

40% pack size map with alvas and its 150 or so -.-

[split pagoda]

Glad damage is pretty bad, only really makes sense for stuff like retaliate imo that can still get solid dmg at the cost of clunkiness

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[finite quail]

forbidden flame jewels

[hard cliff]

unrealistic

unfortunately

[whole bluff]

glad is funny, it is so broken to use azadi, but at the same time it just doesnt really cut it

you run into boss abilities to make sure your block stays up, and youre sorta completely dmg immune the majority of the time, but sometimes you just die

then there are dots or unblockable though

but yeah

insanely good defence with a hole in it that cant be patched

[split maple]

okay turns out the trick is to not have hive fortress on map

[fickle glen]

Can volatile dead and detonate dead use the same corpse when triggered together through replica Maloney’s mechanism quiver?

[whole bluff]

[whole bluff]

99% sure they cannot

Sometimes stuff like that works, maybe in this case? Idk. @crystal talon

[fickle glen]

There is that 1 percent of uncertainty

[whole bluff]

Yeah

[fickle glen]

That 1 percent of curiousity

Gotta find out now

[whole bluff]

It would be unthematic, because you don't just consume a corpse as payment. The skill effect is to blow the corpse in question up

But on kill explosions generally stack

And there was a warcry helm build

That triggered warcries simultaneously for more dmg

[fickle glen]

I mean can’t volatile consume the bits of exploded corpse to still work after detonate?

[whole bluff]

I did that that in mercs. Was nice

[whole bluff]

As head canon, sure. But there's nothing left of a blown up corpse mechanically

[elfin shale]

My guess is the first skill in the links would take priority

[fickle glen]

Where would the beginning of the link be if the quiver itself is the trigger?

[whole bluff]

Triggering warcries same frame supposedly blows the same corpse up several times to be clear

So who knows tbh xD

[elfin shale]

The one in the top left same as everything else?

[fickle glen]

The skills aren’t linked tho, because the sockets aren’t connected

[whole bluff]

It's still some order that always goes afaik. Though idr it

[elfin shale]

Doesnt matter

[elfin shale]

It follows the direction the links go

So, left right right left left right

[whole bluff]

Items go in an order, and gems in the sockets of an item also go in an order

[fickle glen]

Zigzag

[whole bluff]

To make an easy rule for myself, always descending vertically?

In the link order

[elfin shale]

Ye

[whole bluff]

Always start top left

[elfin shale]

Mines throw sequentially when you have multiple right

[whole bluff]

Afaik yeah. Got a vague memory even locus mine does

[fickle glen]

Never used mines

[elfin shale]

Nah Locus is an arc

I want to try some bullshit

[whole bluff]

Like a barrage usually, but locus aims at X specific separate locations

[elfin shale]

Mine supported traps

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but they shoot sequentially still iirc? Just to fix points

[elfin shale]

Odd if so

[whole bluff]

Yup

[fickle glen]

Hehe this is the only game where I’ve seen mines used actively instead of passively

[whole bluff]

But locus is giga odd

[elfin shale]

In theory i think mine traps would be good?

[fickle glen]

Mines and traps In this game are used like grenades

Wondering why they didn’t add grenades instead

[elfin shale]

You basically double your throwing time but multiply your traps thrown by your mines thrown

[whole bluff]

Grenades are nice

[elfin shale]

PoE2:

Grenades are a third secret unrelated thing

[whole bluff]

There's been this lightning trap mine floating around

[fickle glen]

Speaking of mines, is there a way to drop them as you move like under your feet instead of throwing them?

[elfin shale]

No

[whole bluff]

Mines are very limited in how you create them unfortunately

Same as traps

[fickle glen]

So strange

Would have loved to passively drop mines as I kite monsters

[split maple]

i mean is there anything in game that works this way

ignoring obvious stuff like rf

and frostblink of wintry if you can slap some damage on it

and herald of hive 😛

[elfin shale]

On console iirc you throw in the direction you move so if you stop moving before throwing theyd drop on you?

Or stop holding right stick

[whole bluff]

Mines used to be planted at feet iirc

But rework made you throw them

[fickle glen]

There is a toggle that lets you throw the mine or trap on you instead of enemies

But it’s still throwing

[elfin shale]

Could you IMAGINE

[elfin shale]

Yeah no way to do this

[elfin shale]

Imagine doing fucking Feared with that shit lol

[whole bluff]

Maybe we get some way to add supplementary damage from creating volatile things on the ground. But I don't see how it would be useful tbh

Like the wands support

[fickle glen]

What does the alt behavior do for blink arrow?

I think I figured it out, it makes you ignore terrain if you can go around it

Could be wrong tho

[whole bluff]

Alt versions of blink/mirror arrow used to be played as a summoner but they giga nerfed the minions this league

I don't really know why they just stomped that so hard

[fickle glen]

This is what I am asking about

[whole bluff]

Ah, idk

[fickle glen]

That alt behavior for mines makes it throw on enemies or yourself

But idk what it does for blink arrow

[whole bluff]

BAMA was cool anyway. A bit sad they just seemed to nuke it. Maybe it was as OP as on release but just not popular

It's some console/controller thing, on PC you can choose click to move on or off

[fickle glen]

Ok google says it change from targeting enemies to go as far as possible

I didn’t even know the default targets enemies

[whole bluff]

Console is a strange land

Maybe one day we get cross progression, but atm console is limited in playerbase

[bright viper]

Its the same with leap slam

I think if you don't have alt behaviour on and you're stuck in a massive pack of mobs you'll just leap slam up and down on the spot

[vague storm]

Is windburst support meta fur cyclone builds?

[brazen vector]

Is blazar here

[normal hedge]

yes

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[plush gulch]

do people use the focus mod ?

is it valuable

[stuck phoenix]

Some do

Dunno if it's more or less valuable with it

[finite quail]

rarely used

Not much value to it

[split maple]

was very popular on ee trickster in 3.25

for curses

3.26 doryani merc made that useless, 3.27 trickster is useless in general :/

[plush gulch]

[split maple]

dunno if any other build uses that mod

[plush gulch]

those item

they look decent and are probably worthless

nice life, some armour, rarity, T1 int, focus mod

probably worth 1c

[livid quarry]

i called trickster nerf too hard before league started

[split maple]

i dont want to jinx myself but going better than expected

#3 ready

[thick goblet]

how many beast locks do you have

[split maple]

like 4, was burning too many on pboder :/ gonna need a week or two of beastjail after i finish these

gonna lock just for not erasing implicit, i am not coping on all of them hitting smh on gilded

[tawny aurora]

HI
How do i get points for the bloodline?

[split maple]

unspec them from your ascendancy

[tawny aurora]

i see , thx

[steel light]

8 points to be used between ur normal asc and bloodline

[tawny aurora]

it aint much ,but honest work

[plush gulch]

it never happened to me to have only two choices

first time in 3K hours

[split maple]

means all other options are blocked off

[plush gulch]

yeah i figured out

still first time it happened

and the item only has three mod

👀 decent items, worthless sadly

[steel light]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/5tolen-2437/sososstolen?i=6&search=class%3DChieftain%26allskills%3DCast%2Bwhen%2BStunned%2BSupport%26sort%3Ddps&timemachine=week-11 before

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/5tolen-2437/sososstolen?i=6&search=class%3DChieftain%26allskills%3DCast%2Bwhen%2BStunned%2BSupport%26sort%3Ddps after
cost me 32D to upgrade (sold a mirror shard), worth?

[plush gulch]

this breach tree is so powerful to get gear

ssf people should be eating good

for the first time

im in pohx league but thats still the same

maybe I should aim for other item but im a minion build

nothing useful

each item require insane stuff like recomb delve mod

or hitting +1

minion

which i can't get with the tree

[strong totem]

i've never noticed this little bird before..

[plush gulch]

ssf minions are not eating good

lol

with my big naivety i thought it was a lot

[normal hedge]

10k is crazy

its not even 500

[split maple]

and 300 of them is just hanging in global

further 198 just fucking around for an hour after job

[plush gulch]

following zizaran guide im really a fan of goijnng there for the necromancer

fix all the problem

more life, block, more endurance charge, endurance charge generation

more charisma

I would have never thought of like going so far there

maybe it's more a hardcore thing

but i like it