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tranquil sedge
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give it an actual interface

proud gorge
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and that's a good thing

eternal hill
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ah I thought you meant like swapping out gear on the go

proud gorge
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there's a reason why you don't see random AGs on every single build

pulsar dune
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AG is sort of mandatory in any build that doesn't do high end mapping

tranquil sedge
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AG could use mechanical changes honestly i mean

proud gorge
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because on a non-minion build they just die instantly

spice pecan
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can i just get waheed from d2

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and give him insight

proud gorge
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and then you just have a bunch of wasted gem sockets

split maple
tranquil sedge
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but UI is like a no-brainer its so annoying to use rn

pulsar dune
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But the game isn't really difficult enough to force it

split maple
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Like they universaly good if you can fit them in

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And why care bout survivability if gear isn't lost

tranquil sedge
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socket pressure is the biggest deterrent to universally using AG ye

pulsar dune
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You should put AG on your dedicated bossers for example

proud gorge
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with no minion investment, they just die instantly at the start of a map, and then you can't get them back for the rest of the map

pulsar dune
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Bosses don't really kill minions

split maple
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They survive better than you think wkz

pulsar dune
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And you can fit quite the chunk of power

split maple
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Like Just slap some mask of stitched demon or smh on

tranquil sedge
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ag is definitely weakboi

proud gorge
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sure, but the more defensive item investment you're doing the less "utility" it's actually giving you

tranquil sedge
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^

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plus you probably want a meatshield support or smth at least

split maple
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Yeah I am not saying they mercs, I am saying they usable even on nonminion builds if you can spare socks

proud gorge
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like yeah, if you get an AG with Minion Life + Meatshield Support, a highly defensive chest and helmet, etc, then yeah, you could probably make one that survives

split maple
proud gorge
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but that's at minimum three sockets in exchange for an AG that's providing maybe 3 items worth of support

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it's definitely still good

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but most people wouldn't bother

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and that's the same thing with aurabots, they're super powerful, but most people wouldn't bother because they can do just fine without

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
proud gorge
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the issue with mercs is that there wasn't any downside, or any real "friction" towards them just giving you insane damage multipliers

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with them being even mildly inconvenient to run and gear, you'd instantly see a massive drop off in the likelihood of people actually running them

spice pecan
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i mean 50% increased enemy life was a downside

tranquil sedge
proud gorge
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eh, a very minor one, especially compared to, even on a super basic level, one or two free auras

spice pecan
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like RF couldnt run a merc until some decent gear upgrades, but that's like the only example i can think of

tranquil sedge
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plus they also gave partial quant bonus

proud gorge
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even if the merc was literally using no custom gear, the one or two extra auras more than make up for the life increase

tranquil sedge
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anyone thinking twice about the 50% life (nobody) would already ignore it just for that alone

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yummy quant mmm

tranquil sedge
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aurabot player means splitting loot too kek

proud gorge
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But yeah, ways to introduce friction to Mercs:

  1. Make them cost ridiculous amounts of gold per map, far more than could reasonably be obtained in a single map, and also steal half the gold drops.
tranquil sedge
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also steal half the gold drops.
ooo

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salary payments

proud gorge
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I mean, the original idea was already to make them cost a salary per map

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probably scaling with the map tier and number of mods or something

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hmm
2. Make it so that mercs have a "cooldown" period, so after running them once you can't use them again for a bit, either a couple of maps or (in an extreme case) some amount of real time

tranquil sedge
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that sounds awful ngl

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and real time is an absolute no no

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that has no business being in this game

spice pecan
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agreed

proud gorge
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  1. Make it so that mercs are as squishy as a real player, and if they die you can't use them for the next several maps
tranquil sedge
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kingsmarch is already bullshit in that regard

spice pecan
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if my merc dies i'm not going to sit there for an hour plus before i can run another map

tranquil sedge
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they die you can't use them for the next several maps
also yuck

spice pecan
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also

proud gorge
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yes

spice pecan
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that would literally brick aurabots

tranquil sedge
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yea if they die and u can't use them for the rest of the current map thats already a downside

spice pecan
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until you get an unkillable merc

proud gorge
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I mean, the idea for "they require a rest period after every map" is that you'd be forced to gear three mercs

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and rotate between them

spice pecan
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aurabots already have to play 1 portal maps

tranquil sedge
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when u try to invent downsides you should be inventing ones that have an actual purpose to them not things that would just piss off players

tranquil sedge
spice pecan
pliant pendant
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Hey do i need to online when a guild invites me?

tranquil sedge
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like ppl exaggerate way too much

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only a couple of them are actually shit

potent horizon
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winter orb is fun

tranquil sedge
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and one of course stands out above all else kek

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-# deal no damage for 3 seconds my ass

spice pecan
pliant pendant
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even if i am offline?

tranquil sedge
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brb lunch

potent horizon
spice pecan
proud gorge
pliant pendant
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ohh oki.. thanks

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I am new here an i am looking for an active guild to join on PS5

proud gorge
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very few real teamplay players will gun maps at max speed for several hours

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that's the main real "gain" for solo play vs teamplay, being able to just log on and gun maps

spice pecan
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but you can try the console channels

pliant pendant
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indeed

ocean field
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Does every gem in poe have either an attack tag or a spell tag? Any gem that does not have either of them?

pulsar dune
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I believe warcries have neither

pliant pendant
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where do i find the console channels?

ocean field
pulsar dune
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Support gems

spice pecan
pulsar dune
ocean field
spice pecan
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you may have to go into the roles channel and pick poe1 to see them

pulsar dune
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No, that's it

proud gorge
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it's literally just the warcries

ocean field
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thanks

proud gorge
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there's also three gems that have both the Attack and Spell tags lmao

ocean field
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oh thanks for heads up

proud gorge
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which makes sense, Frozen Legion is a weird spell

tight plinth
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I never got to make a frozen legion build

spice pecan
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the coolest thing frozen legion ever did was being able to have infinite statues for infinite duration with the 0aps trypanon back in crucible

tight plinth
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If the life stacking axe doesnt get nerfed i might do one nect league

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
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like i like the balance of kingsmarch and i still think its objectively just wrong game design for poe

spice pecan
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literally havent touched km at all in the PL

tranquil sedge
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your time outside the game should not affect ur moment-to-moment gameplay in the game, kingsmarch violates that already and its probably the least offensive way to do it

spice pecan
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i cannot be fucked

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and i know i have to recomb a fucking bow eventually

tranquil sedge
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like the only reason its tolerable is how little effort you need to keep kingsmarch running

pulsar dune
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Unscalable timers suck

proud gorge
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clearly mercs should reflect real group play by only being available for maybe 2-3 hours a day, and only on certain random days

pulsar dune
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Pretty universally tbh

spice pecan
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oh shit, my 4r 1g 1b divine shield skin of the lords just sold

tranquil sedge
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lol

proud gorge
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and sometimes they're not available until 11pm

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at which point you get maybe 20 minutes of gameplay

dawn laurel
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guys sorry fpr noob question, I have query about simplex amulet, which annoint is better for int stacker jugg with lightning strike ? sione's ambition or claws of the falcon ?
and can we change the annoint later on ?

spice pecan
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you can always change your anoint yes

proud gorge
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you can change the annoit at any time yeah, the only issue is that if it's corrupted you need a corrupted oil

pulsar dune
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You probably want siones

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And if it's mirrored you need a reflective oil

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Or well, siones if you aren't running woke ancestral call in links

dawn laurel
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thank you for the response.
why sione is better ?
from the description it seems claws of the falcon is more damage ?

spice pecan
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do you really need sione's ambition for LS?

pulsar dune
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You probably have enough damage, and not having to be melee is really good

spice pecan
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LS isnt even a melee skill anyway kek

pulsar dune
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Makes double hitting easier too, not that that's super relevant

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But IG true, on LS it doesn't really matter

dawn laurel
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got it
thank you guys

true falcon
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I vaguely remember something like this next league being the first league made by the dedicated poe1 team, but can't remembered if I just made that up

spare ore
proud gorge
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You know, it occurs to me that possibly the reason why this build is running PCoC on its Frostblink is because, at the level of investment its working at, PCoC Frostblink of Wintry Blast is just straight up their clear skill

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I thought they'd frostblink in and then hit Lightning Conduit

tranquil sedge
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strong enough builds can do that yh

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connor's incinerate of venting aurastacker did that too, as an example

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frostblink of wintry as clear, incinerate of venting as singletarget

proud gorge
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but according to PoB the DPS on Frostblink alone with max power charges is like 1.8m dps

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you'd still want to hit LC on most rares

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but it'll clear white packs just fine

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so yeah, I can see the vision with regards to PCoC on frostblink

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though I'm still not sure you'd need it, and if you're killing white packs with it then the kills should generate enough power charges to sustain

ocean field
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I did not intend for this

spice pecan
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lmao

ocean field
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How much can I seel this for in standard

spice pecan
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probably not much

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no overqual or super cool mods

tranquil sedge
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suffixes are very bad (the tiers are too low)

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and its only 20 quality

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implicits aren't elevated either

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but the easiest way to answer your own question is just go search for a body like that on standard lol

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my answer is biased because to me standard gear must be good to sell that is what i think

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i could be wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

tranquil sedge
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that should tell u what its worth

ocean field
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6 red is pretty rare

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so slightly above this I assume

radiant bridge
proud gorge
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6-red is rare, but at the same time isn't that rare. The six-socket craft is 350 jewelers, so 420 jewelers per attempt if using the jeweler method, and the odds of hitting red on a 173 dex/int chest is about 1/6

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so it'd cost an average of like 2500-3000 jewelers

umbral crag
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You're also looking at something with actual suffix and correct implicits. Though I'd still question if this is actually worth 20d in standard

proud gorge
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so the 6-red offcolor really only adds around... 18c of value in Keepers

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probably way less in Standard

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actually jewelers are more expensive relative to chaos in standard

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so it's more like 45c

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but point being, it's functionally just the cost of the base item

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the extra value generated by being 6-red is minimal

ocean field
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I see so better for me to just switch it and just keep the armor

proud gorge
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same reason why there's only like 5div difference between a 4-flask and 2-flask Mageblood

pulsar dune
proud gorge
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the extra value gained from a 4-flask mageblood compared to literally any mageblood is pretty minimal

pulsar dune
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Corrupted 2 flaskers are usually half a 4 flasker

proud gorge
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I generally buy the cheapest uncorrupted mageblood and then roll it to 4-flask myself

tranquil sedge
pulsar dune
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Ah, then it's literally just divine cost

tranquil sedge
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since the difference between 2 and 4 flask is just divining

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yea

proud gorge
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yeah

pulsar dune
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Not a question of value

tranquil sedge
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the prices does go up if you start filtering for high resist and dex rolls too

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but just for flasks, ye minor difference

pulsar dune
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They're sold on the assumption that someone will divine them to 4 flasks

ocean field
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lol my neighbor son is getting belt to ass. Can hear him screaming till here

proud gorge
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that's what I'm saying, the "added value" of the 4-flask is minimal because you can just divine it to 4 yourself

pulsar dune
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Ah, makes sense

proud gorge
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same with how the "added value" of 6-off color is entirely just the cost of offcoloring it yourself

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and the "added value" of a 6-link is the cost of 6-linking it yourself

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so in this case, extremely minimal by comparison to the cost of the actual base item

vocal perch
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hey guys, ive been playing POE 2 since release and gave POE 1 a shot last year and didnt really like it. I desperately want to like it because one of my friends SWEARS by it being the best ARPG OAT... would anyone be willing to play with me and show me the ropes? Maybe im just missing something?

tight plinth
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my advice, join a guild, preferably a casual one

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i think theres a guild recruitment channel here somewhere

vocal perch
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oh awesome

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thanksQ

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!*

spice pecan
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people are saying that to you in here? or in game?

tight plinth
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probably in game

vocal perch
spice pecan
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i was about to say

tight plinth
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the first guild i joined taught me a lot

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they were very casual, played through the full league

tawdry olive
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sometimes i forget guilds exist kek

spice pecan
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my guess is there's probably some big guilds out there that still use the forums

steel light
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@vocal perch are u playing on league or standard?

steel light
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what's ur ign? i can pass u a starter pack

tight plinth
elder marlin
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For the full starter pack

steel light
elder marlin
steel light
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lots of inscribes that need to do, mostly 20c

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@elder marlin does 4x monster types special attack ruins + 3 out of 10 secs deals no damage not screws cws glad in 2 unlucky blocks? or 90% reduce recovery

elder marlin
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Other than that, no i can run all

elder marlin
steel light
frigid wedge
elder marlin
steel light
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ruin iv + no damage 3/10 sec with that stupid range triangles nukes me in one wave when fire storm doesn't kill it early

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8 ruins in 2 hits

steel light
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i'm chieftain, i'm wondering how glad dealt with it

spice pecan
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17d in blue juice to hit this and ofc i couldnt exalt life and got aoe instead

elder marlin
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But i failed once bc of those combination

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Only once tho

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I could technically do reduce recovery 2(90%) if i unequip my rf and annihilation

steel light
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it's just these two ascendancy skills?

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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just chill and afk with your block and recovery on block kek

steel light
tranquil sedge
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l0l

elder marlin
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Gratuitous is like budget temu hinakora

spice pecan
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how are you bleeding

steel light
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also can u stand in mid when it's totem heavy damage mod?

elder marlin
spice pecan
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is cws glad using an attack of some sort

elder marlin
spice pecan
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how is raise zombie of falling applying bleed

elder marlin
spice pecan
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it's still a spell?

frigid wedge
elder marlin
spice pecan
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ah right, so you need minion bleed chance

elder marlin
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Thats why i said gratuitous is budget temu hinakora

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U need 2 skill gems to achieve the same thing as hinakora

spice pecan
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i mean it's guaranteed explode if you have 100% bleed chance at least

elder marlin
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And i also cant

spice pecan
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ouch

elder marlin
proud gorge
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you can also socket an abyssal jewel with minion bleed chance on it

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if you really want to get the bleedsplosions

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I mean you could socket a bunch of those to get your bleed chance way up, but that's probably not worth it

elder marlin
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Even with 2 large

proud gorge
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fair yeah

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the PoB I pulled this from socketed that jewel here, and that's honestly probably not worth it lmao

spice pecan
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time for a 3p voices for abyss jewels

proud gorge
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4 passive points for 10% bleed, plus some armour and life and chaos res

elder marlin
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Thats 4 points also my pob is has quite alot of differences

proud gorge
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probably not worth yeah

elder marlin
iron cradle
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do we know when is the next league?

spice pecan
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early march is what its looking like

jagged raven
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guys is there a guide on how to complete all the steam achievements for poe?

spice pecan
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there's a mod called no stone unturned or something

iron cradle
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march really? wont that conflict with poe 2's league? wont that be around the same time?

spice pecan
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that basically gives you an ingame overlay for the two hardest achievements

jagged raven
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mod on an online game? wont that get me banned?

spice pecan
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nah, it's just a little overlay

stuck phoenix
jagged raven
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i mean is that safe?

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ok

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oh

proud gorge
stuck phoenix
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Overlays are specifically not mods in general

iron cradle
spice pecan
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yeah sorry it's not a mod

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it's just an overlay

stuck phoenix
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Because if they were mods they wouldn't be an overlay

jagged raven
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i see

spice pecan
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it's called all ears unturned iirc

frigid wedge
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god i gotta play smth with indigon

iron cradle
jagged raven
gritty epoch
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Poo2 bad

proud gorge
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the gist of it is that two of the "hardest" achievements, which aren't actually hard so much as difficult to keep track of, require you to see every piece of campaign dialogue and also every piece of lore text

stuck phoenix
proud gorge
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all ears is all dialogue, no stone unturned is all environmental lore

spice pecan
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and you do that thru the entire campaign

stuck phoenix
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Main issue with all ears is that you constantly get locked out of dialogue

spice pecan
stuck phoenix
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And no stone unturned just takes forever because you'd need to fully explore every zone if you don't have a guide for it

proud gorge
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for reference, though, neither is the rarest achievement in the game, though they are the 4th and 3rd rarest achievements

stuck phoenix
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But isn't nearly as bad as all ears

spice pecan
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the only achievement that's somewhat difficult is clearing hall of grandmasters tbh

proud gorge
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no stone unturned also has some fiddly things, like needing to see all the Vaal Side area dialogue, as well as all the library dialogue

spice pecan
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and finding enough ppl to do CTF, assuming it even works

stuck phoenix
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I tried to get as much dialogue as possible while playing normally once. By the end of acts I was 2/3rds of the way for all ears.

proud gorge
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and the library dialogue is weird since only some of them load in every time you go to the library

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so you have to repeatedly reload the library to get all the different environmental lores

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so it's unlikely anyone has gotten No Stone Unturned by accident, unless they were very specifically going for the achivement

jagged raven
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do u have the link for the overlay?

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i found one but its 7yrs old

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on github

proud gorge
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anyways, ironically even CTF isn't the rarest achievement

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the rarest achievement is, apparently, to equip every Maraketh weapon

stuck phoenix
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Well ctf isn't really hard

spice pecan
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i think esm did a run with it recently

stuck phoenix
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Equip every maraketh is another thing that's surprisingly hard to do by accident, but not hard enough to be the rarest

spice pecan
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i actually did the maraketh one by accident i'm pretty sure

stuck phoenix
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Is it less old? Probably

proud gorge
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that's probably why yeah

ocean field
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petition for exsanguinate to have a white skill effect skin

spice pecan
ocean field
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instead of red

proud gorge
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so a decent number of people who'd be recorded under global stats just haven't played since the Maraketh achievement was added

spice pecan
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and mathil did a video about exactly what you're thinking about

proud gorge
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but yeah, imo the actual "hardest" achievement is probably level 90 on a hardcore

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it's not too hard if you just play a good hardcore build

spice pecan
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nvm i havent done it

proud gorge
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and play it safe

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but it is quite punishing

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so it's probably the hardest of all the steam achievements for that reason alone

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it actually requires you to, you know, play the game well

proud gorge
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and I guess the "hardest" non-hardcore achivement is probably The Forsaken Masters

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since it requires you to beat Vaal Omnitect, Aul, Farrul, Catarina, and Uber Elder

ocean field
split maple
spice pecan
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yeah it's just annoying as fuck having to pray you don't get any of the four ggnoobs or putrefyrotspoilfester

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though maybe modern league builds can tank the latter, that character is quite old

ocean field
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gang have you guys tried them void maps

spice pecan
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not interested in losing my character

ocean field
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yeah but one has to at least be tempted

split maple
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If I got a good one ever

ocean field
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This is my second league and I am already tempted

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might save enough by the next 2 league to try in standard

split maple
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Like the best void I have is for fflesh

spice pecan
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nope, i see void and i chuck the map in the stash and never look at it again

split maple
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And cba for that

ocean field
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I lowky want to try it when I have an expendable char

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will prolly never try in league

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but will do in standard

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cause you bascially have nothing to lose

spice pecan
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i mean trickster is usually the go-to ascendancy for doing void maps

ocean field
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yeah

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good

spice pecan
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as long as it's not union of souls you sometimes don't need crazy gear

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just go slow and spend 30 minutes in the map

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and have logout macro ready

ocean field
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yeah I can do that

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I want to be at the edge

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gives me a high

elder marlin
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Like lucky shinadigans

split maple
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Rly depends on rest of the mods tho

spice pecan
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maybe, but no block is a mod

elder marlin
split maple
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Like there is hh valdo with only two mods being voided and frogs

spice pecan
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there's a mageblood valdo with 1 mod, increased character size

ocean field
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I will prolly try from the easiest mod to the hardest one

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don't really care too much about the rewards

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I just want to run the map

split maple
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Someone Got a 0mod valdo yday in ssf global

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For atziri disfavor

spice pecan
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huge

dusky urchin
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Have

spice pecan
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transfer that map to standard trade

split maple
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These are multimirr collector pieces yea

spare ore
ocean field
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Bro made this video just a year ago

elfin spire
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Testing it rn and it looks worse/similar than doing bane, huh.
And for bane I at least can see damage stats.
Can't see any stats for impending doom.

spice pecan
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he made the kboc whisperer league starter which i started in phrecia and it was so much fun

ocean field
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ah phreica

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I actually played like a month of poe at the start of settlers

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then quit

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then came back at the end

spice pecan
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settlers was a good time for the first 3 months

ocean field
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after like 9 months

spice pecan
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currency exchange was an absolute gamechanger

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holy shit

ocean field
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yeah

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thank god I didn't have to deal with old systems

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and now with async trade

spice pecan
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poe before currency exchange was.. something

ocean field
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I think I am in peak poe state (except 3.27)

spare ore
proud gorge
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nah we got asynch this league

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the QoL has never been higher

ocean field
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async is obviously very good

proud gorge
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I've made a lot of money this league just on the back of being able to easily liquidate things

ocean field
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I can now acutally buy stuff in mins rather than hours

proud gorge
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instead of having to put it up and then wait around in my hideout all day

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playing Trade of Exile instead of Path of Exile

elfin shale
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Starting to wonder how tf i make Kinetic Rain of Impact deal damage

dusky urchin
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Y

proud gorge
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and I'll be honest, I didn't really like the Mercenaries league as a league mechanic that much. Like, the mercenaries themselves, eh, did some powerful things but mostly just let you do things that were already good better instead of actually making for new and interesting builds

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but like

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that was basically the totality of the league mechanic

brazen vector
proud gorge
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no real actual "league content"

spice pecan
proud gorge
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even this league, for all that people complain about it, at least has real league content in it, enemies, mechanics, a boss fight

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a very underwhelming boss fight

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but at least it's there

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I suppose the new memory stuff was the "league content", kind of?

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except obviously we've still got that

spice pecan
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that was technically expansion content

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but yea

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im just wondering when we're gonna move on from eater and exarch tbh

spare ore
#

hope next league we get some cool endgame bosses

split pagoda
#

I dont think we’re getting any particularly interesting endgame bosses for awhile

proud gorge
#

it's getting long

split pagoda
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Most likely will be some league mechanic boss but they’re typically not that special

proud gorge
#

gotta get my other two auras on line

ancient sorrel
#

is there a PoB bug with The will of X ?
Looks like the light of meaning are not counted

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can someone check my PoB and tell me if im wrong ?

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i have 900ish % inc phys dmg with a 15% ring, and auras have 78% buff

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should be 900 x 0.15 = 135%

frigid wedge
#

that pob has 1 gear piece

steel light
frigid wedge
#

oh 2

proud gorge
ancient sorrel
#

yeah, its empty, just working on tree with will of tul @frigid wedge

frigid wedge
#

pride is phys damage taken not phys dmg dealt

ancient sorrel
#

yes but pride should have 135% buff

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so max stage, 40 x 2.35 = 95%

frigid wedge
#

pride has a max debuff

ocean field
#

does kinetic bolt shotgun?

frigid wedge
#

of 39

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at lvl 20

ocean field
#

not fragmentation

frigid wedge
#

then no

spice pecan
#

regular kbolt does not

ancient sorrel
#

so ring buff doesnt bypass it?

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
#

it will cap out at the max for pride

ocean field
#

oh ok

frigid wedge
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if anything says up to all modifiers will respect that max

spice pecan
#

it only exists to dilute the blue trans gem pool

frigid wedge
#

i hate that we have so many skills that can shotgun but the ones that are made with the intention of shotgunning are useless in generic builds

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so shrap ballista and kbof

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shrap ballistas are ok but u cant balance it around the shotgunning when so many skills already do without being balanced around it

ancient sorrel
#

but the 71% is wrong for me, its not the good calculation

spice pecan
#

shrap ballista is also only played on what, dex stack hiero?

frigid wedge
#

str

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siege ballistas are dex

spice pecan
#

ah yeah

frigid wedge
#

str stack balllista hiero isnt weak the skill just sucks without spamming totems with hiero dmg per totem

spice pecan
#

i feel like if you're gonna play a str stacker anyways there's better options

frigid wedge
#

honestly its not that bad

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its more chilled out

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and it can do ultis etc

spice pecan
#

i mean it has to be better than dex stack siege ballista

frigid wedge
#

well yeah

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massively

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poeguy starts dex one and swaps str as soon as he has current

dull osprey
#

is these any easy way to get to Lycia easy? i have barely done the Sanctum and wanted to know if i just have to do it alot to get to her

steel light
#

does it matter for the area of effect of my aura skills?

frigid wedge
#

wat

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aoe doesn't change

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just more space for reserving

steel light
#

like if i don't increase the aoe of zealotry range minions might be out of range etc

frigid wedge
steel light
#

oh, i typed better instead of matter

frigid wedge
#

yes the aoe affects it

steel light
#

i was thinking to not increase the quality before i double corrupt it

elder marlin
elfin shale
#

Aura

tight plinth
#

to flex

elder marlin
#

It would nerf u

proud gorge
#

Ultimatum builds like CWS glad usually just don't care about the Treachery runegraft, because there's an ultimatum mod that does that anyways

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so you kind of have to build around that anyways

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I also take it on FRoSS since it also doesn't matter at all

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giving enemies ES is irrelevant because I deal chaos damage, and giving enemies more chaos damage is irrelevant because I'm CI

elfin shale
#

Giving enemies ES is a damage buff Pogott

steel light
#

i'm derp, should just buy it than alva bla

proud gorge
#

but yeah, I might not on a Zealotry build, unless you happen to be crit immune

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since spell crits are potentially some of the most deadly things you can be hit by in the game

steel light
#

this works for spells right? if it does how much general % damage from spell crit i'll take

tight plinth
steel light
#

i was gonna double corrupt for +1lvl, but i could just buy 21 zealotry from trade for cheap with no risk of + quality

proud gorge
#

if you can get 100% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes then you're functionally crit immune

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to the extra damage portion anyways

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30% reduced extra damage from crits means that you still take 70% of the extra damage from the crit

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and if the enemy has a decent amount of crit multi (eg: from map explicits) then that's still quite a bit of damage

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just 30% less extra damage

ancient sorrel
#

well, increased phys dmg doesnt seem to work with the will of uun netol..
light of meaning and pride watcher dont add anything to the auras

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thats so fucking strange

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wording is the same than delirium clusters, and they work

tranquil sedge
#

Note that only modifiers to global physical damage apply (i.e. local physical damage modifiers on weapons, melee physical damage, and physical damage with attacks do not apply). Large cluster jewels and The Light of Meaning can provide large quantities of this stat.

spare ore
ancient sorrel
tranquil sedge
#

kk taking a peek

steel light
#

no, i mean with runecraft of treachery the aoe increase could be avoidable for range enemies with 0 quality, so i shouldn't get anything with quality
21/0 is ideal for me

ancient sorrel
#

and 'global physical damage' from crimson jewels are ok too

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im pretty sure at this level that its a PoB issue

tranquil sedge
#

why do you say its not working

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look at this lightning res node next to your current light of meaning

ancient sorrel
#

1000% inc phys dmg must be 150% buff on auras

tranquil sedge
#

nvm im dumb let me rethink

ancient sorrel
#

i dont get why i have 98% buff

tranquil sedge
#

that buff is from the ring

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it tells u right there

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most of those entries do not give aura effect by default

ancient sorrel
#

with 1000% inc phys dmg and a 15% ring, i should have 150% dont i ?

tranquil sedge
#

sec

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so ur currently getting 86% from the ring chrisThinking

tranquil sedge
#

because of this right?

ancient sorrel
#

yeah

tranquil sedge
#

okay so

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when i unequip this mastery, for example

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it doesn't change the aura effect

ancient sorrel
#

i remove all the node 'phys dmg with axe ' for example

tranquil sedge
#

i think some of that 1220% might not be getting counted towards the phys damage

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hmm

ancient sorrel
#

yeah, there is also melee phys due to str

#

when i check this

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if i remove melee phys bot, and bonus from str, every 'seems' ok to fit the ring conditions

tranquil sedge
#

its not just that

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the mastery i said for example, thats not being counted

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or 'wild savagery' 100% inc phys, not that either

ancient sorrel
#

thats so weird

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even watcher isnt counted

tranquil sedge
#

hmm

#

yea looks like it
dunno why

spice pecan
#

a fresh new bleed bow player came and bought one of my hemophilia glove bricks and i checked him out on poeninja, he's using melee phys support on split arrow UHM

ancient sorrel
#

i cant figure out if PoB issue, or intended

#

and for wild savagery, i dont understand

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wording is perfect for the ring

#

guess i have to try and figure it out.. if its PoB or the game

tranquil sedge
#

im just tryna think how to test this in-game

ancient sorrel
#

determination buff is a good check

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armour value

tranquil sedge
#

that makes sense

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check armor rating with and without the watcher's eye then

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normally with your mods it should not affect it at all, unless the stat counts for the ring, then it should

ancient sorrel
#

i 'think' it should

tranquil sedge
#

try 😄

ancient sorrel
#

yeah

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ty for your time checking with me

tranquil sedge
#

np its fun

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always learn smth new

ancient sorrel
#

yeah i thought it could be fun to max scale war banner / impresence vuln / deter / pride

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but im so confused on what works and doesnt 🙂

tranquil sedge
#

might be conditional stuff not being tracked properly in pob
or just legit doesn't work if its condition idk

#

test in game and find out is the only way i think rn

crisp plinth
#

ok swapped to soulwrest from aw and its way more comfy

tight plinth
#

whats aw?

spice pecan
#

animate weapon

crisp plinth
#

yeah ranged version in my case

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was annoying to bladefall manually in ssf

spice pecan
#

yeah, I couldn't get gem rooms to show up at all when i was trying to build RAW in ssf

crisp plinth
#

i tried all mechanics that could drop those gems and got 0 trathus so far

spice pecan
#

i'm kinda thinking about trying lance's eblade inquis setup

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though i wonder which is better between selfcast/coc/mines

crisp plinth
#

coc sounds most comfy out of these

spice pecan
#

what's the benefit of coc over selfcast? you technically lose two links

ancient sorrel
#

wild savagery doesnt work, i dont understand why @tranquil sedge 🙂

tranquil sedge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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no clue either man

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maybe make a reddit post if u wanna see if someone can give a good answer

ancient sorrel
#

global phys from grafts either

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thats bullshit

crisp plinth
spice pecan
crisp plinth
#

oh then bleh

elfin shale
tranquil sedge
elfin shale
#

Oh i see yall tested in game

crisp plinth
#

also i wish id get a leash of oblation to get all 3 offerings up

elfin shale
#

Rough

tranquil sedge
#

did you do the armor testing in game

pulsar dune
#

Coc gets more cast speed probably

ancient sorrel
#

i tried IG, and wild savagery doesnt pump my armour,while having determination

pulsar dune
#

You should be able to get to 10 trigger rate

spice pecan
#

because you scale attack speed instead of cast speed?

tranquil sedge
#

strange then

ancient sorrel
#

same for a graft

#

Item Class: Grafts
Rarity: Rare
Flesh Caress
Hardening Uulgraft

Quality: +13% (augmented)
Graftblood: 0/10454 (augmented)

Requirements:
Level: 80

Item Level: 85

2% additional Physical Damage Reduction (implicit)
Uses level 30 Tender Embrace (implicit)

39% increased Global Physical Damage
21% increased Graftblood gained
Buff granted by Tender Embrace used by this Graft grants 0.41% of Damage Leeched as Life

Graft items can only be modified by Implant currencies.

tranquil sedge
ancient sorrel
#

this doesnt work

pulsar dune
ancient sorrel
#

yeah, gonna try reddit

pulsar dune
#

Unearth and flame surge can get to 10 cast rate pretty handily, but most spells don't have cast time that short

elfin shale
pulsar dune
#

Maybe

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Oh yip, 300

#

Mines are strong as well, but idk what skill you'd click with hexblast of contra gone

spice pecan
#

eye of winter supposedly good on mines

pulsar dune
#

EoW should work, yea

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Especially with the lower spread of curtain call

spice pecan
#

speaking of curtain call i just watched the old build of the week video about curtain call EA mines sabo

pulsar dune
#

Wow

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That's a cook and a half

spice pecan
#

looked like a neato budget build

#

prestack EA mines on a boss looked pretty funny

proud gorge
#

Man, playing with Lightning Conduit, I thought to myself, hey, it'd be cool if there were some sort of Arc of the Conduit, to give Arc some more good scaling potential

#

but thinking about it, that's basically what Lightning Conduit is already

#

like, what would some theoretical "Arc ot the Conduit" even look like? A chaining skill that deals more damage with shock effect, consumes shock, only targets/chains to enemies with shock, and can't shock itself? That'd just be Lightning Conduit

#

and honestly LC with Orb of Storms kind of looks like Arc anyways, mostly because of Orb of Storms chaining

#

alas, the biggest issue with Arc, like with most spells in the game, is just that it doesn't have anything really making it stand out compared to every other random hit-based spell skill in the game

ocean field
#

can u make an eblade contagion?

#

does that work

#

using spellblade

elfin shale
#

No

spice pecan
#

uh, you wouldnt gain anything from the flat

proud gorge
#

Contagion doesn't benefit from added damage

ocean field
#

oh

#

I see it is not a "hit"

elfin shale
#

Eblade Essence Drain Poison Pogott

ocean field
#

Eblade also does not work with essence drain tho

#

or does it?

elfin shale
#

Not on the DoT part but ED has a hit

#

So you can poison with it

#

(This would be fucking terrible dont do it)

ocean field
#

yeah duh

pulsar dune
#

What's the harm in some eblade poison fun

ocean field
#

Dihpression

elfin shale
#

Lightning Poison is always cringe

#

1/5th of your poisons deal 0 dps

pulsar dune
#

Just curtain call

#

It'll be fine

elfin shale
#

I do unironically wanna run ED of Wickedness Poison at some point even though i think itd suck

proud gorge
#

lightning poison is fine, just not on Essence Drain lmao

steel light
#

can someone help me with this idiot thread of hope removal? i've refund everything and i can't remove or replace with another massive ring thread of hope

elfin shale
spice pecan
#

yeah

elfin shale
#

Small node

proud gorge
#

ah yeah, in Explosive Impact

#

good eye

elfin shale
#

Maybe also the DEX and minion damage notables at templar start i cant tell on those

elfin shale
#

(It was so bad)

proud gorge
#

ah, I played EE mamba

#

it was pretty fun

#

but yeah I can imagine that eblade wouldn't exactly be a great weapon for it lmao

elfin shale
#

I also tested EE, iirc it ended up better but im an eblade believer

steel light
proud gorge
#

like, one of the benefits of mamba is it combining both main hand weapons into a single strike to apply poison with

elfin shale
#

If Mamba SOMEHOW escapes the nerf hammer again im gonna play hit-based Eblade Mamba

proud gorge
#

oh, do you? I thought eblade only consumed one weapon

elfin shale
#

Yeah you get two

pulsar dune
#

No, it takes all your weapons

proud gorge
#

I guess that's better than I thought then

pulsar dune
#

Otherwise you could nyctas

steel light
pulsar dune
#

Which would be too good IG

proud gorge
elfin shale
#

Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation is mid af right

proud gorge
elfin shale
#

Enhance image

spice pecan
proud gorge
steel light
whole bluff
#

Man, I wanna see more blade buffs everywhere

steel light
elfin shale
#

Enhance Image

pulsar dune
steel light
#

thanks 🔎 👓

spare ore
pulsar dune
#

And you get an okay phys spell as a payoff

whole bluff
#

Eblade but a dagger for dex/int archetype, that adds dmg to blade spells

proud gorge
#

clearly I should have gotten out the MS Paint to draw a Helpful Red Circle

#

with a big arrow pointing to it

#

and a youtuber gasping in the bottom left corner

spice pecan
#

needs temple run on the screen tbh

pulsar dune
#

Ritual of blood, eats your life to give you a weapon with fat phys flat

whole bluff
#

Buff that enhances an axe or mace based on int or life or mana or something

pulsar dune
#

And just delete bloodthirst.

whole bluff
#

Maybe some stuff for staff though idk what

spice pecan
#

remember when maces were a relevant weapon type

steel light
elfin shale
#

Yall rember Kaom's or Shavronne's being the only viable body armours

#

Idk how long that lasted

spice pecan
whole bluff
#

Vaguely

spare ore
steel light
#

for base jewels should i just vaal orb for chance of random implicit?

whole bluff
spice pecan
#

true

elfin shale
steel light
spice pecan
#

non-sceptre maces i meant

proud gorge
#

Bloodsoaked Blade: Gain a buff that gives extra flat physical damage to your melee weapon(s) based on your maximum unreserved life, as well as 50% chance to bleed, but in exchange you're inflicted with a strong physical degen similar to a really strong bleed, but that you can't be immune to

#

so you just need PDR

pulsar dune
#

Adding phys flat just makes you a voidforge tool

spare ore
spice pecan
#

isn't the current bloodsoaked blade what makes tinctures somewhat playable

proud gorge
#

oh, is that a real thing?

pulsar dune
#

Could make it spell phys flat and have it join hand of the fervent

proud gorge
#

I just made up a name

elfin shale
spice pecan
proud gorge
#

lmao, good to know

whole bluff
#
  • 0 mana cost persistent spell to buff your axe or mace based on life or int.
  • 0 mana cost spell to buff your staff based on str or mana.
  • 0 mana cost persistent spell to buff your dagger based on idk. Also either more EK of dagger detonation skills or this would specifically buff blade spells. Plus poison theme
proud gorge
#

I'm trying to figure out something along the lines of Elden Ring's Seppuku buff

proud gorge
#

but the problem is Elden Ring's seppuku literally just deals damage to yourself

#

and is balanced around a game where losing health is a real cost

#

because you have to chug one of your limited potions

elfin shale
#

I think whatever you do it has to actually replace the weapon otherwise it becomes Voidforge/Doomfletch fodder

proud gorge
#

fair yeah

elfin shale
#

Man i hope they add another method to get Sequential projectiles

proud gorge
#

oh, here's an idea

elfin shale
#

Barrage support is so ass

proud gorge
#

what if the buff grants Final physical damage

#

so it's added on at the end, after conversion

pulsar dune
#

Interesting

elfin shale
#

Really bad unless its like 800% of your life and then you end up with Brightbeak gamers

proud gorge
#

it still benefits from increased physical damage

elfin shale
#

I suppose

#

Thatd allow for some shenanigans

proud gorge
#

and other physical damage multipliers

elfin shale
proud gorge
#

actually, now that I think about it, you know what would work actually

#

Herald of Blood. It's a spell, its damage scales with your max life, it causes every melee attack to gain added physical damage scaling with its damage effectiveness, but it's technically a second unrelated spell hit

elfin shale
#

Cursed

proud gorge
#

actually, screw damage effectiveness lmao

pulsar dune
#

Without DE it's woespike 2

proud gorge
#

just make it deal a physical damage hit every time you hit with an attack lmao

pulsar dune
#

Which is probably fine

#

Oh with any attack is crazy

#

But I'm down for blast rain meta NGL

proud gorge
#

what's the fastest hitting attack

#

I guess I was assuming melee attack

pulsar dune
#

Lancing steel of spraying, from melee it's cyclone and blade storm

#

If you allow simultaneous hits probably blast rain.

proud gorge
#

honestly yeah it should probably scale with the DE of the inflicting hit

#

otherwise things get silly

#

and it's pretty much exclusive to only the fastest hitting attacks in the game

#

either that or pull a Prismatic Burst and give it an internal cooldown

pulsar dune
#

Maybe a minion that damages you and does damage based on that.

proud gorge
#

that could be fun

#

Summon Skeleton of Self Reflection

pulsar dune
#

Put that on reaper IMO

#

I think it'd work better for something big and slow hitting thematically

proud gorge
#

yeah Reaper probably makes more sense

#

I just find the idea of Summon Skeleton of Self Reflection funny

pulsar dune
#

That is true

proud gorge
#

sacrifice half of your max health

#

to summon a permanent skeleton minion

#

also you can't move anymore as you collapse into a pile of skin and muscle

pulsar dune
#

Lmao

whole bluff
#

they could probably do something like "get 40% of your physical damage as extra physical damage", or just make it "this grants you x% more melee physical damage with weapons"

proud gorge
#

40% phys as extra phys is very funny

whole bluff
#

ah, yup

#

just more melee phys dmg with axes and maces then maybe

proud gorge
#

I mean, iirc extra damage can't be further converted

#

or "gain as extra"d

whole bluff
#

or more phys dmg with axe and mace

whole bluff
#

maybe sword and staff, depends on what you wanna do with it

elfin shale
#

Not in 2 but it can in 1

whole bluff
#

or just added fire dmg

proud gorge
#

ah, I must be thinking of 2 then

#

but yeah, they already have something designed to specifically benefit physical damage

#

Brutality Support

elfin shale
proud gorge
#

which is one of the strongest damage supports in the game

#

in exchange for needing to be pure physical damage

whole bluff
#

but claw is dex/int, but I suppose

crisp plinth
#

lmao on the day i swap to soulwrest i get the missing worm ring

spice pecan
#

xdd

whole bluff
#

it's unfortunate, but PoEs design kinda makes bloodmage effects not suited for shadow area

proud gorge
#

squyrming ring

spice pecan
#

at least we have life on tree

whole bluff
#

true

brazen vector
#

The best ring, rip worm pooper mercs

proud gorge
#

but yeah, honestly, while thematically it makes sense for life payoff things to sacrifice life, like, it easily comes to mind with stuff like Blood Sacrifice, etc, in practice it's kind of annoying that every lifestack payoff needs you to constantly drain your life

#

most of the ES payoff effects just scale off your ES and that's it

#

give us a big 2h mace that gets extra flat damage scaling with your stun threshhold or something

#

or a buff that gives you free flat in exchange for mildly lowering your health recovery rate

#

oh no, 30% slower health recovery rate

whole bluff
#

I think flat fire based on max life would work, fire casters need some help too though, but theyre less life focused

proud gorge
#

could work yeah

whole bluff
#

literally just fire eblade except it doesnt remove your weapon, it scales of life, and it adds fire, all at lower values

limpid prairie
whole bluff
#

and works with like, axe, mace, staff

whole bluff
#

if that axe is ephemeral edge, then I want an eblade version

proud gorge
#

honestly, some unique weapons that gain damage based on various life-based stats could be fun. Stun threshhold 2h mace, claw that scales off your current life leech (which is a percentage of max life), axe that scales with your health regen

whole bluff
#

rain of chaos farming for challenges go brrr

proud gorge
#

maybe, just for fun, something that scales with missing unreserved life

#

though that would probably just become Rathpith Dissolution fodder

pulsar dune
#

Yea

proud gorge
#

so nvm

limpid prairie
#

Ephemeral edge at home

proud gorge
#

man they really wanted to be conservative with that one

dapper fractal
#

I love g1

spice pecan
#

bruh moment

proud gorge
#

though I guess 8-12% flat is theoretically better than EE's 10-15% to maximum, since EE comes out to like 5-7.5% on average

pulsar dune
#

Yea, life is just a bit harder to stack

proud gorge
#

yeah

pulsar dune
#

Is it good enough to just use for the flat?

proud gorge
#

then again, hmm...

pulsar dune
#

Or do you have to do some iblow zerker shenanigans

limpid prairie
pulsar dune
#

Maybe it's good enough for the other stats if you use the rage caster hat

#

And do like scorching ray totems

proud gorge
#

okay so Blood Sacrament builds build like 20k to 30k max life, but Dissolution does give a big boost to max life

spice pecan
#

rage on something like scorching ray totems would be like, impossible

tight plinth
pulsar dune
#

Totem mana cost is pretty steep

proud gorge
#

there's 30k max life RF chieftains out there

tight plinth
#

double rathpith apparently works if you take necromantic aegis

proud gorge
#

so 20k to 30k is a reasonable number for a lifestack build

#

even without Dissolution

pulsar dune
#

But I do believe it

proud gorge
#

with 22k life and a 12% axe, that's 2,640 flat fire damage

pulsar dune
#

That's pretty good

proud gorge
#

there's a Grey Wind Juggernaut out there rocking 45k max life lmao

#

but this seems to be just a pure PoB build

tight plinth
#

45k jeez

proud gorge
#

it's got Dissolution on it

ocean field
#

spell critical strike chance does not apply to kb or kinetic fusillade right?

#

only spell damage

tight plinth
#

nein

proud gorge
#

then again, maybe not

proud gorge
ocean field
#

thanks

spice pecan
#

regular volcanic fissure

#

holy shit

#

what year is it

proud gorge
#

very interesting build, Rathpith for spell damage, Crown of Eyes to turn that into melee damage

elfin shale
proud gorge
#

though I'm not particularly sure about the 5x Blood of the Karui alongside Dissolution lmao

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then again, it's not actually, like, triggering Rathpith

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it doesn't have any spells

tight plinth
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i think he has flasks disabled with ascendancy

proud gorge
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the Rathpith is there purely for the spell damage per 100 max life

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he does yeah

spice pecan
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-170% rarity has to hurt surely

proud gorge
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I just mean that with Dissolution, life flasks don't really matter

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since you're not using real health

elfin shale
spice pecan
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also mapping with disso and without blood shield seems like insanity

proud gorge
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but yeah, as much as Dissolution gives the largest numbers, I gotta reject any Dissolution lifestack build

spice pecan
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its apparently fine with blood shield

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but even then, still a bit sus imo

tight plinth
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45k life, 3.4m dps kek

elfin shale
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Just get triple lucky block ez

proud gorge
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yeah, that's the big issue

pulsar dune
proud gorge
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this build is rocking 45k life, getting 5,400 flat fire damage on every attack, and PoB is in fact calculating things correctly

elfin shale
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Man i hope next patch has a ton of trans gems

proud gorge
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and yet it's sub-4m dps

elfin shale
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I want Reap of Soul Sacrifice or such

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Fuck i should PoB Scales of Justice at some point

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I think its shit but its cool

proud gorge
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there's a few things that PoB isn't accounting for, but it's pretty minor

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plus this build doesn't have any way to exert attacks anyways

tight plinth
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this is probably just to see how much life he can get

proud gorge
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yeah

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oh yeah these are also Apostate builds

tight plinth
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nope, went back in time, its the actual build

proud gorge
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I do not like Apostate + Dissolution

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it's like the only way to lifestack

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but I don't like the build

elfin shale
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Apostate cool af tho

proud gorge
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anyways, seems like the highest DPS variant is an Elementalist build running Foulborn Rathpith

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and igniting with Sunder

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these non-ignite variants have to have more damage, right?

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there's no way all this work is for, like, 4-7m dps

elfin shale
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We stack life for the love of the game

brazen vector
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I love apostate and dissolution

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Who doesn't like having 28k life

proud gorge
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okay it's a bit better, since PoB isn't accounting for Rage

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hmm, seems like, despite the Juggernaut at the first spot, most of these Dissolution builds are running 99% block Gladiator

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and no blood barrier

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and oh no

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they have War of Attrition

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any build taking War of Attrition is cooked

elfin shale
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DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF WAR OF ATTRITION

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Its all we had before Bloodlines and its all we'll have after Bloodlines

proud gorge
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What will you have after 500 years

elfin shale
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100% more damage

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Are there any modern skills that benefit from proxy nesting

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Or was that like, only Crucible league bullshit

proud gorge
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man, incredibly sad though

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that apparently somehow the best way to get lifestack payout for attacks

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is to run the lifestack payout for spell damage and wear Crown of Eyes

pulsar dune
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Rathpit do be broken as fuck

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It's probably the strongest unique in the game on numbers alone.

proud gorge
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anyways, if you remove Dissolution builds from the pool

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this guy knows what's up

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Leap Slam of Groundbreaking gaming

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easily my favorite attack skill

elfin shale
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And overall additional mines are easier to get

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Feels like youd rapidly end up hitting trap cap though

visual stream
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2 more months till 3.28

tight plinth
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without the giga weapon its still 60 m lol

pulsar dune
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Garb on Bob huh

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Oh and hallowed monarch let's gooo

spice pecan
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ag chieftain huh

pulsar dune
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60m POB DPS with HH hat on a minion build looks good NGL

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Lmao literally just taking chieftain res

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Didn't have budget for POF sublime IG

granite bloom
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anyone remember the price of ilv83 blueprint raw from map at the start of league? 7c or 10c?

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DivineOrbSad i need that info for planing farming 3.28

steel light
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are u planning to heist or just to sell bp?

granite bloom
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i planing to get the strand map (memory's one). Then use infinite map + heist craft (5c) to farm and sell bp

steel light
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i forgot when's the start, this was from tft

spice pecan
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league started on oct 31

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so if that's dd/mm/yy then that's like week 2 yeah

steel light
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so 1st or 2nd week, good reference point?

spice pecan
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<@&174997701513969665>

steel light
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would u spend 9D to buy a lvl 4 enlighten support, or buy 10 lvl 1 support for 9D, level them and then alva them all?

granite bloom
tight plinth
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that is not dd/mm/yy

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slash is mm/dd/yy no?

steel light
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i'm not a murican 👀

pulsar dune
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Leveling them takes way too long

granite bloom
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we need time to farm and get map point too

spice pecan
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use wild bramblebacks to level them

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tbh

pulsar dune
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Those work on non-exceptional woke gems

spice pecan
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oh you're right

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it's 7:30am and i should go to bed but no

granite bloom
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just found out the memory infinite map's cursed doesn't affect heist

pulsar dune
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Enlighten is an exceptional sleepge gem

steel light
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i'm doing gold farm with alva, i could level them off slots

split maple
pulsar dune
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Alva gold farm would be decent.

granite bloom
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so i can save 2c for each strand map

split maple
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then use facetor on exceptional templarthumbsup

pulsar dune
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Ah, facetors makes sense

spice pecan
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yeah i knew bramblebacks were used for enlighten/empower somehow

elfin shale
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200 - 400 flat is really bad stonks for a manastacker right

spice pecan
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i just forgor how xdd

pulsar dune
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Or use the fucked up omen and die at 99 multiple times

elfin shale
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What if Mind of The Council + Whispers of Infinity + The Scales of Justice + one of the archmage wand attacks

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Or is this trying too hard

stuck phoenix
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Trying too hard

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How much dps is even motc there

elfin shale
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Probably none lol

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Scales is also dogshit

pulsar dune
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Oh I just read scales of justice, that's a crazy item

granite bloom
pulsar dune
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IG it's more flat than archmage