1┃general

[hard cliff]

Crazy

[loud geyser]

wtf is that

[hard cliff]

never been into takis myself just a chips or pork skin guy

[loud geyser]

fuego is the only flavor

that should be consumed

[bronze falcon]

chicharons

[keen hornet]

Guy my binds for mouse are being unbinded every tp/map i take, is there any way to fix it? its getting so annoying to manually put spells each map xD

[loud geyser]

fuego and dorito dynamite

[hard cliff]

That's weird

[loud geyser]

now i wanna go get acai drink from booster juice

[bronze falcon]

Are you running a mouse software like razer synapse that might be overriding the in-game binds?

[fresh merlin]

Are you using X to weapon swap accidentally? If you have attacks socketed in your weapon that could mess you up.

[bronze falcon]

we need answers!

[hard cliff]

I am so tempted to get a hamburger after work 😩

Expensive tho and i have foood at home

[bronze falcon]

The food will still be there and it will be one less thing you need to buy next grocery trip.

Chinese food tonight, lads

[hard cliff]

ohhh crap I am totally out of milk

[loud geyser]

its like 10 bucks per drink...but im addicted

ive spent so much money on them

[hard cliff]

10 bucks per drink wtf

surely that's not american dollaroos

[loud geyser]

canadian monopoloonies

[bronze falcon]

timmy ho hos

[loud geyser]

(the irony being that a loonie is a real currency in canada)

($1)

[hard cliff]

$7 for a drink wtf that's like a nice drink at the bar over here

[loud geyser]

i mean

[hard cliff]

well a decent beer nothing very fancy

[loud geyser]

its a nice fruit drink

[bronze falcon]

Yah, nah. Last time I went out to dinner drinks were $14

That was.... tuesday

[loud geyser]

acai frozen yogurt and other berries

but yea extremely addicted

[hard cliff]

Are you talking about a fancy milkshake thing or a pre made drink

[loud geyser]

pre made drink

[hard cliff]

[loud geyser]

which is also a fancy milkshake i guess 🤔

OH

no its a juice stop

not premade lol

called booster juice

[sleek barn]

jamba juice noises

[bronze falcon]

boostah

orange julius vibes

[loud geyser]

ive seen the store almost as long as i can remember

but only recently started trying them 2-3 weeks ago

[bronze falcon]

20 minutes for chinese food?! Unheard of

[sleek barn]

i am the creator of chinese food

[bronze falcon]

I'm a fan of your work

[hard cliff]

I need to go to the local chinese buffet after a big ass gym session

Remind myself it's mid every few months

[bronze falcon]

Helps you lose some weight when you shit out your colon the next day

[keen hornet]

nothing like that, it just stopped working one day and since then i can't fix it XD

[hard cliff]

I have problem with the other direction

[keen hornet]

But it only doesn't work with His Scattering Calamity, other spells works fine

and this is being unbinded 24/7 each tp

[split maple]

#2┃general

[bronze falcon]

poe2 bomb

[hard cliff]

TWICE CORRUPTED

[ocean field]

My eyes

Btw

Can u recom cluster jewels

[keen hornet]

oh sorry i didn't know im on wrong channel!

so sorry guys, waiting for 3.28 btw!

(totally not a poe2 spy)

[split maple]

no

[ocean field]

Gng poe2 lowkey better than 3.27

[bronze falcon]

get out

[gritty epoch]

3.27 tourists smh

[ocean field]

Gng I am poe1 purist don't even have poe2 but this league so ass

[hard cliff]

This league is ok

it's weak but drama free and reddit all left weeks ago

so it's peaceful

[ocean field]

True that

But it is more like a abadoned wasteland

[livid quarry]

poe 2 loot all time high while poe 1 loot nerfed

concidence?

[keen hornet]

even if you don't like poe2 because of all the jackshit people say, try the endgame temple, i have 1.5k+ in poe1, 1k+ in poe2 and temple alone is most fun i ever had in any league so far, okay second to mercenary but still

didn't expected that because week1 i thought its dogshit but now im addicted xD

[sage falcon]

when loot yes game good

when loot no game bad

[keen hornet]

i have no loot yet, im still trying to setup this shit after like 3 days /played and still im not even at the 10% xD

[ocean field]

Imagine my dissappointment. My very First league being merc GOAT then the most shitted league in existance keepers

[keen hornet]

no loot = still fun

[ocean field]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[hybrid harness]

wonder if we'll ever get another endgame update on par with atlas tree

[hard cliff]

Zana lit the atlas tree on fire so ||No||

[ocean field]

Before gta 6

[ocean field]

😭

[silent leaf]

yea no idea why ppl cry about divines while i get 6 while in act 7

[hard cliff]

Fake but funny

[hard cliff]

Somethiing is wrong with your icons

[silent leaf]

legit

its not fake lmao

[hard cliff]

It's fake

[ocean field]

CI slayer possible?

[sage falcon]

everything possible

believe in yourself

[ocean field]

Practical?

[silent leaf]

lmao

[sleek barn]

how many from tree

[silent leaf]

1 from tree iirc

[sleek barn]

dang

[silent leaf]

it was on PL lmao

[sleek barn]

thats 1 more than my regular trade league

[silent leaf]

llike i got my first one in lvl 40 lmao

i got 6 by act 7

[ocean field]

What happens to brutal fenvor when ghost reaver

[livid quarry]

how? i would consider it lucky if i get 5c and 1d before maps

[sleek barn]

This effect does not work with Ghost Reaver, as leech effects are removed at full energy shield.[1] In the case of instant life leech effects, such as Bloodseeker or legacy versions of Atziri's Acuity, the leech will end immediately regardless of whether you are at full life or not, as Brutal Fervour does not preserve or store such effects.

[sage falcon]

if only a wiki existed so we could check these things ourselves

😔

[sleek barn]

you should hide everything on the wiki page on april fools

[silent leaf]

fucking people trust AI more

than wikij

[hard cliff]

Wiki jeeeki

A lot of people don't know ai exists tbh

I mean the wiki

I see so many questions that are literally answered in plain text on the wiki of the skill or item

I am def guilty of this too tho

https://tenor.com/view/hang-myself-noose-tying-noose-hanging-myself-hang-gif-20508872

[sleek barn]

this is not even

GLEARTH

why is glorp the only landmass

i've had enough of this emote

[hard cliff]

They're doing this to me tommorrow @sleek barn

[sleek barn]

does this mean you are going to be the king of Burger King

[hard cliff]

I'll make it good again

[plush gulch]

can I use fossil on fractured gear ?

i was trying to get a +1 minion wand with minion dmg/attack speed and empty suffix but I thought maybe I can just use one minion fossil on a wand

[split maple]

sure

[plush gulch]

👀

ohh

nvm then

[whole bluff]

meh, my breach crashed my game

false alarm, I just had to do half of it blindfolded

aim impending doom where?
<the entire screen> or <the entire screen> or <the entire screen>

[plush gulch]

sucks to spend 1 div just ti replace it so I can ge the trigger

all I have is one div

and 3 chaos

could have bought at least 3 jewel with this money

i guess convocation can wait

i suck at crafting anyway

that's how rich the pohx league is

all i asked is +1 minion and life roll

[normal hedge]

just migrate at this point

if you cant buy basic shitty gear

[plush gulch]

i had no idea I could

im starting to think about it

I mean i just saw i could at the same time I shared the photo

i logged off because of a bug and see the option to migrate to keeper was possible

[normal hedge]

yeah, you can

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[normal hedge]

at least in league you'll be able to buy basic stuff, and some farms are more profitable than in pohx league
also, you can buy scarabs

[plush gulch]

im kinda worried i migrate and everything is mega expensive because of inflation and stuff

i'll probably do it

like tomorrow or something

make some chaos so I can transfer with two div i guess

[livid quarry]

chisel might be worth 1c

so if theres a way to farm chisels its probably ez money

[plush gulch]

less than a div invested and i feel so tanky 🔥

so much health

and im far far from what i can get

[normal hedge]

that looks like every life based build looks right after campaign

🤔

[plush gulch]

oh

really

[normal hedge]

4k life, yeah

[plush gulch]

I expected minions build to be squishier

like

ranger

deadeye

and stuff

[normal hedge]

i was watching ziz playing praw and he had 7k life lol

[plush gulch]

im foillowing his guide about zoomancer

[steady otter]

With rf I get like 4k-5k hp after campaign, if you are running minion then it should be a breeze

[plush gulch]

yeah they tank a lot

I remember having miserable time on ranger

[normal hedge]

praw looks really nice, i'm considering playing it next league if they dont touch it

[plush gulch]

early endgame

[steady otter]

Zoomancer is probably the most all-round class for new players besides the goat RF chieftain

But again, just depends on fetish

[plush gulch]

i was trying to follow ghazzy guild

guide

but gave up

ziz seems more suited to me

[steady otter]

ziz has a mindset of a hcssf player so his build shifts towards defense

[plush gulch]

the start of yellow map medium budget version having insane gear

[steady otter]

Which is fine, less dying

[plush gulch]

i think we don't play the same game

lol

[steady otter]

Keep in mind that some of ziz stuffs are crafted

Looks expensive but could turn out cheap by crafting

[plush gulch]

yes ziz stuff seemed gear I can afford

so i went there

also the focus on defense

I like it

I hate dying

and I know I can remove some defense option for offense if i want

easy peasy

thats my gear right now

im steamrolling yellow mapsq

since I got the build in place correctly

I know it's because im over geared

as fuck compared to the content

[steady otter]

Have you got any spell suppress?

[plush gulch]

no

[steady otter]

Well you dont need them this soon anyway

But when you go further into the hell hole you will need it

[plush gulch]

even if I get some max res ?

like 79%

and almost 5K hp

what the hell are we tanking

xD

maybe that's because I feel too tanky and confident now

[steady otter]

Believe me, a juiced tt16-t17 map will blast you back to your hideout with nasty mods

[plush gulch]

I didn't play poe 1 in months

been a while

[steady otter]

Triple extra ele for exmaple

[plush gulch]

I feel sick looking at this ngl

so bad

one mod item

and 30 life

[steady otter]

Max res and 79% is not enough, you need spell suppress/block to run juiced contents

[plush gulch]

I still had to buy it for 10 chaos

[livid quarry]

i remembered gear is cheap cuz of tree

[steady otter]

For example a late game suppress gloves for zoomancer looks like this

[livid quarry]

1.1k pdps mace was 1d early in leag

dunno now

[golden moat]

yes we do

im rdy for 3.28 sanctum buffs

[limpid prairie]

what do you look for in harbinger maps?

[plush gulch]

🤔 lot of minion dmg and suppress

should be so expensive

@steady otterI need to try to set up the ag

buy an hungry loop and stuff

levelling up gems

[steady otter]

Not really, the chaos res and chance to suppress is what makes that expensive, minion dmg mods are crafted and exarch roll

[plush gulch]

i find it weird how you don't really go armour

you kinda do butr not really

10 000

k

10 000 armour*

[steady otter]

Basically you go armour + spell suppress

Then with svalin you also get cap block

[plush gulch]

fund it funny zoomancer is basically they took this node and made a build around it

I didn't even thought of pairing both together

[steady otter]

Raised Zombies and Skeles are always easy to build around, especially when they work a lot well together

[plush gulch]

since it's my first minion build where I follow a guide

and don't do my own stuff

it not obvious to me

they pair well together

for me it's like saying fireball and and firestorm go well together

im not used to minions

you would never put two spells in the same link

for 2 4 links

[steady otter]

The version I know is a bit different, it only does chaos dmg but it's zoomancer nontheless

[plush gulch]

zizaran go chaos dmg

so that's what I do

since I switch to this

with my fourth lab

way bigger dmg

this node seems really SUS

idk why ppl take it

[steady otter]

Wdym, all necromancers take this node

[plush gulch]

isn't this a bit weak ?

compared to

per example

i guess it's difficult to gear

it's weird having a ascendancy node just for gear pressure

im sure it's good though

since you say it

[steady otter]

This is when you are on high budget

[plush gulch]

this node seems insane

8% es

consume corpse with offering

and whatever else you try to set up

[steady otter]

People get plaguebringer with ff setup

Commander of Darkness is all-round and easy to use

[plush gulch]

plaguebringer seems so all compassing

damage and defense

and clear

it's my first time playing necromancer before I thought it was kinda weak

now I start to appreciate it

this node a bit sad and the last one idk what it does there

[steady otter]

Yes but commander of darkness gives you extra res, which is better during early and mid game

[tight plinth]

those 2 nodes are almost always taken for minion builds

[steady otter]

Most of the builds I know run plaguebringer as ff/ff setup, they dont spec into it

[tight plinth]

mistress of sacrifice especially

[plush gulch]

is it for block with bone offering ?

[tight plinth]

its to have 100% uptime on offerings, bone or otherwise

[plush gulch]

especially if you automate it it seems nice

you are right

such a pain to cap blowk

block*

[steady otter]

It's nasty for necromancer

[plush gulch]

funny when suppression is just you get one suppress wheel and a few suffix and youre good

even as a champion it's easy to get

a champion that goes to the left side*

[meager sedge]

You guys are having server issues too right now? I'm getting disconected a lot and I suddenly have lag spikes of 300ms - 15000 ms

[plush gulch]

me not serveur issue, my game crash all the time

[lean urchin]

change realm/server

[plush gulch]

poe 2 also

[lean urchin]

i crash very rarely in poe1, london realm

[steady otter]

I only crash when server has a problem

During keepers, there's a terrible bug with breach that makes your ping goes up nonstop till you crash

[plush gulch]

idk how people finish atlas in a day, I need at least two days for campaign I get to middle act 2 and im getting tired already

same for mapping I got to T7 maps

[brazen vector]

I dont crash so I created a random crash interval .exe on my PC that makes me crash at random times so I can experience the proper PoE experience

[steady otter]

Look at the streamers for example, they play a whole day straight with minimum rest

[plush gulch]

I can play a whole day but I find poe campaign to be exhausting

maybe im old

[brazen vector]

PoE campaign is getting faster the more you play it

[plush gulch]

28 old soon im dead

[brazen vector]

Im 29, deal with it

[plush gulch]

does it get better at 29

[brazen vector]

It never gets better

[plush gulch]

😂

[brazen vector]

This is your peak

[plush gulch]

during teen yearrs I had endless amount of energy

now I need to sleep

before it was a theorical concept

[finite quail]

Different people do it at different speeds

[steady otter]

The fact that I have been maintaining the habit of 8 hrs sleep everyday + sleep at 10 pm everyday since I was born makes me appreciate myself lol

[plush gulch]

i can't focus for so long, I always stop think about stuff, my build

what im gonna do

what im supposed to do

especially atlas progression

doesn't help I never plan anything

and get distracted easily

the good life

[meager sedge]

Just did, I think it fixed it, thanks!

[plush gulch]

I was going to sleep at 2 am everyday for school at 8am

[finite quail]

Tbh I don't really care about needing to do campaign or maps quickly

I just go at my own pace and have my fun

Otherwise, burn out easily seeps in

[plush gulch]

I kinda don't then I get spammed with X arrived to T1 maps and im in act 3

and i feel dumb

[finite quail]

I take my time with investigating theory builds and upgrades n stuff

[finite quail]

I see those and think

[plush gulch]

then I kinda do

[finite quail]

MAN they're quick

But I just keep going anyways

[plush gulch]

i would have prefered disabling those messages

but it is what it is

[brazen vector]

Don't compare yourself to people that progress in 6 man parties

[plush gulch]

they do that ?

I had no idea

[brazen vector]

Yea

[plush gulch]

for me I think it would be a mess

I tried playing BG3 at 4 you couldn't go anywhere

annoying as fuck

i guess they are all trained

they know what to do

they try hard

[bright viper]

They're dedicated teams with a specific plan for speedrunning the acts lol

[silent leaf]

Just play SSF

[tight plinth]

^

[brazen vector]

They practise act running

[bright viper]

You can definitely probably improve your acts time tho

[plush gulch]

bro I tasted a little bit of what you have

it's hell

[silent leaf]

Practice

[bright viper]

Like how long do acts take you rn

[brazen vector]

Hello (sorry for my bad english)

[silent leaf]

Eh I mean, just pick one out of 80ish builds that can run 2 stones within 12h

[plush gulch]

maybe 10 hours probably more

[bright viper]

Ok that's very cuttable

Regardless of what the 6 man groups are doing

If you wanna go faster, practice

[silent leaf]

If ur 10h, likely act 1-3 you visit too much towns

[brazen vector]

Town is lava

[silent leaf]

Or seek too much upgrades

[plush gulch]

sometilmes I try to figure out what im supposed to do

in my build

I always pick an ability that looks cool and wing it

[brazen vector]

Also i bet you dont have dedicated leveling regexes for vendors during campaign

[plush gulch]

last time I did scorching ray totem

[silent leaf]

I don't either

[plush gulch]

I don't

[silent leaf]

And my avg is 7h

[brazen vector]

Same

[silent leaf]

I'm 7h on avg for campaign and 12h for 2 stones avg on softcore

[brazen vector]

Well, kinda unfair since I duo league start but it's ~4h for acts

[plush gulch]

idk why I get to act 2

maybe middle aact 2

then I stop

no energy

xD

[brazen vector]

Thats fine

Play at your own pace

[plush gulch]

also for me league start is always late

[silent leaf]

@brazen vector

perpetual motion machine

[plush gulch]

but I try to quit and go to sleep

not staying too late

not ruining my schedule over the league start

best decision I took

[silent leaf]

League start is 3 am for me

[plush gulch]

me 10 pm

[silent leaf]

Being in asia

It's 7:12 for me atm

[brazen vector]

10pm til midnight for acts if we get in
If we crash 3 times we go sleep
Next day evening we are in red maps

[plush gulch]

1 am

[plush gulch]

do you think you have less fun if you take the game this seriously ?

im curious

[brazen vector]

I Iove it

[plush gulch]

good

[silent leaf]

The euphoria of mapping

[steady otter]

Nah, I have more fun when I take it seriously

[silent leaf]

Is unparalleled

[plush gulch]

sometimes people skip the good part to be efficient

like D4

[brazen vector]

Eh, seeing my partner again is better x3

[silent leaf]

Smh imagine having a partner

[brazen vector]

Thats why you ssf

[hoary scarab]

sick burn

me personally, i wouldnt let that that slide

[brazen vector]

Funnily we both played ssf before we met but we want to play league starts together

LAN party style

[plush gulch]

lan with friends are the best

[elfin spire]

Game made me ssf by not having cross platform

[silent leaf]

That's more towards a compliment

[silent leaf]

[plush gulch]

i tried ssf in poe 2

got bored lvl 30

for some reason

but I could feel the peace

[silent leaf]

Poe2 dogshit dogshit

Dogshit

[plush gulch]

I could feel being free from mortal sins

[brazen vector]

What do you even need trade for at level 30

[plush gulch]

and fomo

[hoary scarab]

sounds like a skill issue

[silent leaf]

Nothing

P much

[plush gulch]

what about mirror trading

[brazen vector]

At level 30?

[plush gulch]

you don't believe i get mirror at lvl 30

😔

[silent leaf]

I really don't understand why they need to make sunder

[plush gulch]

me neither

[silent leaf]

FIVE. SECOND. SUNDER.

[plush gulch]

I don't get them later on too

[plush gulch]

I like it

the game doesn't suit this playstyle though

[finite quail]

FIVE. HUNDRED. INPUTS.

[plush gulch]

they need to slow it down if they want to do that

[eternal mango]

Someone please help I am unable to activate eternal rage even if I matched requirements and spirit i deactivated it a second ago and now I am unable to activate it or deactivate any other buffs

[brazen vector]

You are.... SUNDERSTRUCK (in 5 seconds)

[hoary scarab]

yknow that hasnt been the case since last league

[plush gulch]

he exagerrate sure

[brazen vector]

Hey, please check out #2┃general since this is the poe1 channel

[tight plinth]

pretty sure youre in the wrong channel bud

[eternal mango]

Guys so sorry my bad

[plush gulch]

no issue

[brazen vector]

No problem :3

[plush gulch]

happens

[silent leaf]

That's a thing in 0.1 btw lmao

If you even DARE touch Damage

You lose -5% AS

[plush gulch]

more like 2.5s tbh

2s

anyway

[silent leaf]

If you are touching the damaging suppports

[eternal mango]

I thought Poe 1 was a dead game as everyone says Poe 2 is a superior version

[silent leaf]

It's 5

[brazen vector]

Nobody says that

[plush gulch]

some people do

say that

[brazen vector]

They are wrong

And ragebaiting

[elfin spire]

PoE 2 has WASD movement, that's superior stuff right here
And cross platform

[eternal mango]

The fact that there are people here is just fascinating

[plush gulch]

complicated poe 1 is more complicated, more rough, less qol, less good graphics, more depth.

most people bounces between both

i think

and then other game

it's a seasonal game

[eternal mango]

You still play Poe 1

[plush gulch]

I do

and I played poe 2 each league

also

[hoary scarab]

lots of people play both games and swap every 2 months with the cycle

[eternal mango]

Nevertheless Poe 1 dudes are real OGs my respect to you guys

[steady otter]

Yeah, we basically never stop

[elfin spire]

Got bored by "3 map's - 1 temple" gameplay in Poe 2, so here we are: learning PoE 1 with no guide's.

[brazen vector]

[plush gulch]

you should try it one day, you can learn to appreciate both without putting down the other

[silent leaf]

You mean 3 months and 1 month

Lmao

[hoary scarab]

[silent leaf]

3.28 ended after a month of fixes

They didn't fucking fix shit like essences

[brazen vector]

3.27

[silent leaf]

Has been a thing since week 1

[silent leaf]

Typist

Yea 3.27

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-2008joker-gif-27447141

[silent leaf]

The 2 interns are alrd overworked

[elfin spire]

Are all essences in PoE 1 behave like orb of alchemy with 1 chosen modifier?

[lean urchin]

ye

or chaos orb

[plush gulch]

I play both game, i kinda feel poe 2 is mostly superior I feel that the only thing poe 1 has over the other one is time and depth with number of items, mecanics, ascendancy🤔 @brazen vector

[eternal mango]

If only they introduce WASD and make graphics and Ui modern

[plush gulch]

I still prefer poe 1 endgame

right now

btu I don't like where it's going

sadly

[eternal mango]

And that is?

[elfin spire]

Damn. So, they're pretty much unusable for crafting.

[plush gulch]

the big difference in poe 1 is that you have way more options and agency over what you want to do

[steady otter]

And you can pick whatever layout you want

[plush gulch]

in poe 2 you kinda do everything all the time, the tree it barely feel like you have any choice

[steady otter]

No map travel bs

[elfin spire]

New breach is peak

[plush gulch]

the only choice is really the tablets you run

[brazen vector]

Nah, poe2 campaign is way too long for a seasonal game
Endgame is still not flashed out at all
Ascendancies are mostly boring and also come with downsides

Crafting is also boring

[eternal mango]

Temple in Poe 2 is the best endgame mechanic that i personally experienced in any game so far

[plush gulch]

I really think the ascendancy are a letdown and endgame need more work. Campaign I love a lot act 1 and 4 and interlude

[elfin spire]

PoE 1 campaign is longer, though.

[brazen vector]

Its not

[plush gulch]

I think ascendancies point are less exciting than poe 1 often

[steady otter]

The temple is the first actual end-game juicing for poe 2

[silent leaf]

P much ye

[steady otter]

They said they gonna make a major end-game change in 0.5 so let's see how it goes

[plush gulch]

also the most annoying thing waiting endgame before finishing your third and fourth ascendancy point that you finish back to back

is annoying

[silent leaf]

Just means you aren't really fast enough

Since a seasoned veteran can just finish campaign in 4h

[elfin spire]

For veteran player's - maybe not.

[plush gulch]

I find poe 1 campaign exhausting and I love poe 2 campaign (even if some part I hate)

but that's matter of taste

[eternal mango]

Yes very excited

[plush gulch]

@eternal mangoyou should really try poe 1 one day

you may like it

[eternal mango]

Why are Poe 1 players so welcoming, matured and kind while most Poe 2 players are absolute toxic bombs

[plush gulch]

you can play both

[brazen vector]

I've played both games campaign multiple times now, the maps in 2 are far larger than in 1

[plush gulch]

ola

calm down

[eternal mango]

Ok brother will give it a try

[plush gulch]

xD

[steady otter]

For another disaster

[plush gulch]

poe 2 player a lot of them come from poe 1

that's the sad part

[steady otter]

As far as I love the game, ggg sometimes shoot their own legs

0.2 was an example

A total disaster

[plush gulch]

I would love to be poe commu is amazing and all the toxic people came form outside

but it's not

[eternal mango]

Bro I am new and addicted

This is worse than any addiction

[plush gulch]

saving the world isn't an addiction

it's purpose

justice

[eternal mango]

Yes I meant in a positive way

[plush gulch]

:p

[eternal mango]

Like wtf what a game

[plush gulch]

yes

both are cool

[elfin spire]

I did campaign in PoE 2 in like 3-4 day's in my first playthrough. That's with no arpg experience at all.

I'm same amount of time in PoE 1, now with couple months of experience in PoE 2, and I'm only at start of act 7.

[steady otter]

Game-wise, when you reach end-game in poe 1, you are basically a god kills other gods

Not so sure but exile in poe 2

[silent leaf]

Yea just needs practice ig

[plush gulch]

it would be cool if when people want to be insulting to ggg and stuff they remember the competition and other companies

[silent leaf]

Cause actual season veterans

[plush gulch]

but it is what it is

[silent leaf]

Finish acts in 3 hours

On league start

On HCSSF

[brazen vector]

I run poe1 campaign withing 4-6 hours

I run poe2 campaign in 9 hours

Just to quantify my experience

[elfin spire]

Dying in pretty much any campaign map means you have to waste eternity to get back.
Especially not fun without movement speed boots.

There's checkpoints in Poe 2

[eternal mango]

This game is peak PC gaming and I don’t know how it feels on console

[plush gulch]

I felt this way but I find way more enjoyment out of the campaign in the second game than the first one. I hated when we had to redo the 3 acts

you remember

the cruel acts

what a horrible thing

I have nightmare

still

[brazen vector]

I hate that you cant have all your spells by level 38 in poe2, so thats a huge let down already for leveling

[plush gulch]

I mean right now I have way more fun than 0.1 and 0.2

since 0.2

0.3*

I enjoy campaign and endgame

way more

[silent leaf]

I still remember

When poe2 gets compared to d4 and in a bad way

[steady otter]

0.3 was my peak

[silent leaf]

Poe2 gets worse every update while d4 tries to be better

[steady otter]

0.4 is super inflation rn

[silent leaf]

[plush gulch]

what

who says that

[silent leaf]

Reddit ofc

[steady otter]

It's reddit, what do you expect

[silent leaf]

Can't access reddit login

[plush gulch]

D4 tries to be better

[silent leaf]

But I can still view it

[plush gulch]

????

I really wanted to believe in them

[eternal mango]

How is it worse?

[plush gulch]

but even with all the cope

I had to stop

[elfin spire]

All you need for leveling available from lvl 1 gem's, though

[steady otter]

Hey, if you are trying at 1%, it still counts as trying

[silent leaf]

One of the points is

You are harming yourself if you try to improve in some areas

[plush gulch]

some stuff got worse or got nerfed and so they get emotional and speak non sense

[silent leaf]

Also the devs speak of buffing

But nerfing smth else on the skill

[brazen vector]

Doesn't matter if I want to level with a specific build which i can then only pick up at level 69 with a level 39 uncircumcised spell gem

[silent leaf]

Like base AS 80 -> 90% but base action speed is 0.75 -> 1.25

[plush gulch]

also sometimes they look at a one specific thing that got worse even when the whole game as a whole got better

[silent leaf]

So it's a nothing burger buff

You just got actively worse

[plush gulch]

man I love sunder and stuff

you know

its so satysfying

big BOOM

[elfin spire]

My favorite is Doedre's undoing still doesn't get any influence by tree passives from half of his tag's

[plush gulch]

but the game

doesn' allow that

that's annoying

[eternal mango]

They should make bosses feel worth it I mean come on it will be fun to make boss farming good

[silent leaf]

In Poe1?

[plush gulch]

open your breach and be like okay I can remove sunder from my bar

[silent leaf]

You can use sunder till t17s

[plush gulch]

no poe 2

[silent leaf]

Yea gl on 2 lmao

[brazen vector]

Still waiting for exsanguinate in poe2...

[plush gulch]

in campaign it was so nice then you get to endgame, you can't use it at all

you get swarmed

dodging taking some distance, big sunder

one shotting the screen

you open your first breach in T1 map

you die in animation

[plush gulch]

so much stuff im excited to see coming

especially templar for me

im a left side enjoyer

[eternal mango]

In Poe 2

[brazen vector]

Exsanguinate has been teased for 0.1 but was never introduced

[plush gulch]

lot of stuff can be buffed

[eternal mango]

Idk if anyone here played outriders? In that maps had bosses which were fun farming here maps bosses are utter useless in Poe 2

[eternal mango]

In the future?

[plush gulch]

tbh even if sometimes im annoyed at stuff like I hate the new temple mecanic, I still feel grateful about ggg and stuff and quite confidant. But i feel like people always go from ggg are the best to they are the worst

every single patch almost

even in poe 1

so annoying

[steady otter]

I just hate poe 2 inflation

[plush gulch]

yeah

where are the divine black hole we need

[steady otter]

Poe 1 you have end-game sink so inflation hardly gets high

[silent leaf]

The fucking funniest thing is also

[plush gulch]

yes, I always find them too slow to buff

[silent leaf]

Poe2 they tried smth new

Failed

[steady otter]

But in poe 2 it's like an endless inflation hole

[silent leaf]

And use PoE1 mechanic to supplement it

[eternal mango]

Guys ?

[plush gulch]

wdym failed

[silent leaf]

SCARAB CRAFTING

[brazen vector]

Nah, i go from they are a company that likes profit efficiency to they are a company that likes profitability

[silent leaf]

Towers

They fucking scrapped that shit

Sees poe1

Hey guys this scarab thing is good

[plush gulch]

what's the problem

[silent leaf]

Why not make it Craftable

[plush gulch]

they tried

do u want them to stop trying ?

[silent leaf]

On 2 yes

[brazen vector]

I just hate that we cant run a map layout 600 times in a row

[silent leaf]

[opaque sphinx]

Since when is it not

[silent leaf]

Eh I don't rly mind that

I'm used to it in ssf

[finite quail]

poe 2 questions go in the poe 2 channel

[plush gulch]

idk where it's coming from

idk whats outrider

[opaque sphinx]

Boss farming is consistently one of the most profitable strats every league

[brazen vector]

I do, and im used to run the same map over and over in ssf too

[gritty epoch]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OmsEf_-kqwU

[plush gulch]

ngl poe 1 player are so mad

lol

[opaque sphinx]

Why wouldn’t we be

[plush gulch]

they talk shit about poe 2 all the time but he says this and then ppl are like why is there a need to do say this

😔

me I play both

[opaque sphinx]

The game we paid for is actively hindering progress and updates about the game we want to actually play

[brazen vector]

I play both so I can talk shit

[opaque sphinx]

Pretty fuckin reasonable to be upset

[gritty epoch]

Poo2 players be like 2000div mirror
Nah economy is fine

[plush gulch]

I kinda agree with what he think

if poe 2 keep getitng closer and closer to poe 1

I don't think poe 1 will have much future

[karmic gust]

isnt this guy clueless about both games pretty much

[plush gulch]

because if at least it's quite separate

then it's cool

[steady otter]

This guy has been shitting on stuffs since the dawn of humanity so best way is to ignore the over-dramatic guys like this

[hoary scarab]

yes

[thick goblet]

yeah giga casual

[gritty epoch]

5 ascendencies less played than guardian
Nah class balance is top this lwague

[plush gulch]

me I like him

🦆

[karmic gust]

if poe2 will end up as upgrade from poe1 that would be ideal scenario for poe1 players anyway

but poe2 isnt rly close to being upgrade from anything

[gritty epoch]

All of you are haters if u disagree with Tri smh
Go outside

[karmic gust]

just different game

[silent leaf]

Just SCARAB SYSTEMS GETTING STOLEN

[plush gulch]

being disrespectful is a no go tbh

[steady otter]

So far, it feels like a downgrade lol

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 fixed melee

[plush gulch]

you are so sarcastic lol

[silent leaf]

Fixed dex + int melee

Not str melee

[plush gulch]

but I prefer melee in poe 2 tbh

[steady otter]

Very meaningful combat

[amber pond]

Im like exclusivly a poe 2 player but am bored so I looked at the POE 1 ascendancies, why do they seem so much better and more meaningful on poe 1? Its kind of sad, like in poe 2 you have like 1 or 2 good ascendancy nodes 😭

[plush gulch]

i feel like melee isn't the problem in poe 2, mace is the problem

xD

[gritty epoch]

Imo it's both tbh but mace x melee x 2h handicap

[plush gulch]

yeah that's a problem

im rarely excited about picking a node in poe 2

I thought that since launch

[amber pond]

yea but even ascendancy nodes? Its so sad compared to poe 1

[gritty epoch]

Agree

[plush gulch]

but im confident they will change it one day

[amber pond]

the oracle is the only cool one ive seen i htink

[plush gulch]

most people agree with this

[karmic gust]

well that is what a lot of years of balancing and refinement of the ascendancies gives you

[plush gulch]

not really contentious

[karmic gust]

poe2 needs a lot of time to get to that state

[gritty epoch]

Smith get one (singular) AW that tickles white mob for 2 ascendency points

[plush gulch]

and yet we still have many ascendancies node that sucks, people oversell so much poe 1 fixed everything that's annoying

balance in poe 1 is also atrocious in lot of places

[silent leaf]

||Then we have this guy /s||

[amber pond]

yes but the essence of them is different not just the balance I feel like, they are like overly general in POE 2 whereas POE 1 seems to have more direction

[steady otter]

A fvcking tank that does shit ton of dmg

[silent leaf]

How to make jugg meta, just make it ranged

Fucking ironic

[gritty epoch]

Poe1 class seems balanced if u compare it with poe2 tbh

[amber pond]

I remember they said something about builds not being reliant on ascendancies but if its at the cost of like meaningful choices idk

[plush gulch]

you have warden that nobody wants to pick, dead eye that nobody want to pick, assassin that nobody want to pick, guardian that only work for niche minions builds

[amber pond]

because of how general they are there are like 2 distinct choices that are far and above the best for ascendancies and every other node sucks in poe 2

[plush gulch]

sciion

[gritty epoch]

Some Poe2 ascendency has lower playrate than guardian tbh

[karmic gust]

i mean there are basically no ascendancies left that are just straight up bad (maybe assassin and warden but i think that solves itslef if they rebalance bloodline ascendancies)

[plush gulch]

probably

[karmic gust]

deadeye is still very strong ascendancy, thats just meta issue

not the asc being weak

[plush gulch]

but overselling poe 1 as having fixed everything is irking to me

annoying*

[gritty epoch]

Also single AW, supporting fire, black hole on dodge roll I mean

[karmic gust]

nobody is saying poe1 fixed everything

[gritty epoch]

relatively

[karmic gust]

its more like poe2 unfixed bunch of stuff that was fixed in poe1

for no reason whatsoever

[plush gulch]

everytime time poe 2 does something different that some ppl don't like they say thisd

[karmic gust]

examples?

[plush gulch]

totem

[amber pond]

it feels like they are in the halfway state of making it more roguelike and poe 1 and they cant choose a direction or something idk

[plush gulch]

how totem were so good in poe 1 and it was fixed and im like no

[inner prawn]

9 percent of the playerbase on POE Ninja is playing deadeye.

[gritty epoch]

The well
3 to 1 vendor
No life nodes

Top of my head

[inner prawn]

deadeye is literally number 4 of the top played ascendacies

[steady otter]

So 9% of playerbase on poe ninhja is fubgoons, noted

[inner prawn]

nah only half of that 9 percent is playing kinetic blast.

[karmic gust]

totems in 0.1 were complete downgrade from poe1 totems for sure

[plush gulch]

totem are functionally broken so they are nerfed by being very very very hard to build (sustain dmg and defense) so nobody want to cast spell everyone would want to use totem instead but can you play a totem build having dmg without dying and being squishy

[inner prawn]

a good chunk of it is tornado shot and venom gyre.

[plush gulch]

no

[karmic gust]

idk if they did anything to make them less garbage since

[plush gulch]

so I don't think poe solved totem in any way

[amber pond]

totems arent great in poe 2 but the yarent like unplayable

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 totem sure does

[karmic gust]

0.1 totems were definitely very unplayable at least :d

[karmic gust]

well they kinda started with idea of making it more souls like which generally just do not goes together with arpg genre at all so yea

[inner prawn]

this league actually has had the most ascendancy diversity in a long time.

[silent leaf]

It is no?

Ziz uses it

[plush gulch]

so many people take poe 1 as a perfect game but a lot of what they try to do in poe 2 I likke it

[eternal mango]

Guys why is it just lonely sometimes….. though there are may around when in encampment

[silent leaf]

0.1 was slams that were unusable

They hit really hard but has 3-4 second charge tines

[gritty epoch]

Imo they don't even play much soulslike tbh it's all surface level copying

[silent leaf]

Ur mapping is so dogshit

But you can 3 tap bosses

[karmic gust]

well 0.1 had also ballistas on merc and those were completely useless

[amber pond]

i agree, the only reason i havent played poe 1 is it is daunting to me, but it looks a lot more enjoyable I think, the tree and ascendancies mainly

[silent leaf]

Ok yea no ideas on besides warrior

[plush gulch]

different vibes

[silent leaf]

Since i am those people who is str supremacy

[inner prawn]

POE 1 isn't really that daunting when it comes to the core features.

[plush gulch]

you may like it more or less

tree and ascendancy feels better

[inner prawn]

people just make it more difficult than it needs to be.

[silent leaf]

Pressing P for the first time

[plush gulch]

with years of iterations

[silent leaf]

/s meme

[opaque sphinx]

and u can honestly say that having to stack charges to be able to cast a totem is better design?

[inner prawn]

people overcomplicate the passive tree.

[opaque sphinx]

ur totem build being forced to not be a totem build?

u genuinely think thats better?

[karmic gust]

the endgame loop is somewhat similar poe1 is just pretty new player unfriendly, but if you played poe2 and you are bored then you can get over the start easily

[silent leaf]

I mean ye it's very simple once you actually see how the passive works

Whats ur current problem and what's ur shortest passive tree route

[karmic gust]

passive tree complexity is just fake when half of the trees are very similar :d

[plush gulch]

I never said that, but y'all say poe 1 solved X, that's not me saying crazy extreme statement that's you

[silent leaf]

Just ppl don't rly see that way

[inner prawn]

when your starting you just need to focus on the choices infront of you

and not the entire tree

[silent leaf]

Then again this is someone who plays only duelist or marauder since 3.14

[plush gulch]

if i don't agree poe 1 solved totem, I instantly think poe 2 totem are amazing.

[silent leaf]

So I'm very biased on how easy passive is

[opaque sphinx]

what? nobody is saying that except when its true

[plush gulch]

guys I don't like america do you think im a terrorist

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 solved totems

[amber pond]

endgame in poe 2 just gets boring very fast, you either juice abysses and run them or just swap out abysses for any other mechanic, or you do temples which is even more repetitive.

[karmic gust]

america certainly thinks so

[silent leaf]

PoE1 Solved Juicing

PoE2 used Towers and it failed, they copied PoE1 juicing method

[opaque sphinx]

ye solved the issue of it having a playerbase

[silent leaf]

[plush gulch]

you say this but having so many mobs on the screen at all the time, not everyone like it

it's likle people complain about visibility and im like no shit you have 300 mobs on the screen

what do you want to see exactly

[silent leaf]

Poe1's solution to that is to kill faster

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 solved visual clarity

[plush gulch]

mob 233 ability or 132th mob ability

[inner prawn]

when people complain about visibility they weren't talking about mob density.

[plush gulch]

m aybe one will kill you

[silent leaf]

It's the skills like Coc or CWS yea

[plush gulch]

maybe

[karmic gust]

i mean killing bunch of mobs and getting loot is like the 2 things that describe arpg genre :d

[silent leaf]

Or spells

Like manaman

[fickle glen]

Hi, I am wondering how damage reduction math works in this game, if I reduce damage taken from hits by 100% does that mean I am reducing it by half or completely to 0?

[inner prawn]

stuff like delirium fog had nothing to do with mob density.

literally nothing.

[plush gulch]

I think you have a video game arpg without having poe 1 level of craziness

you can*

[opaque sphinx]

u can

and they are infinitely less popular

[finite quail]

Its definitely more complicated than that

I'd just use pob to check

[plush gulch]

yes poe 1 is superior in everything kira

i know

[fickle glen]

I am talking about flat damage

[opaque sphinx]

brother u can stop putting words in my mouth and arguing against made up shit pls

[plush gulch]

you tried to do this earlier

ffs

[opaque sphinx]

i said poe was the most popular aaarpg i did not say it was the absolute best at everything perfect game

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 graphics and animations are better

[karmic gust]

they all end up there within game limitations anyway, even grim dawn and ppl consider that one slower than rest, yet look at some endgame grimdawn setups theres no visual clarity there anyway

[gritty epoch]

Imma at least give them that

[karmic gust]

yea poe2 looks much better

[inner prawn]

ya know what game had way worse visual clarity than POE?

[gritty epoch]

The rest is debatable

[inner prawn]

diablo 3.

[karmic gust]

but also i play games for gameplay not to watch a movie

[fickle glen]

I remember this game used to advertise 9 years ago but I wasn’t interested in it back then

[plush gulch]

for me if poe 2 could be like the campaign all the time

[karmic gust]

so gameplay is #1 most important thing for me everything else secondary

[plush gulch]

i would have liked it even more

than copying poe 1 craziness

before poe 1 still exist for this

anyway

matter of taste

[silent leaf]

Like cyclone or flicker league starters on 2-3k life and stuck on T6 maps and dying 1-2 times a map and calls it fun

[gritty epoch]

U cant really use examples like totems then say it's subjective imo

[plush gulch]

🤔 what do you mean

by this

[silent leaf]

Fun is relative

[gritty epoch]

If u like ruthless yeah sure I could accept that

[silent leaf]

We have

[plush gulch]

I mean wtf i am doing in poe 1 chat defending poe 2 anyway

[silent leaf]

People playing proper league starters and finishing 2 stones in 12h

[plush gulch]

what am i expecting

[silent leaf]

Then there's people who runs cyclone or flicker and gets stuck in t6 maps after 2 days

And running on 40% resistance

[karmic gust]

did you not expected subjective responses to your subjective opinions

no way

[silent leaf]

2-3k life

And called it fun

[gritty epoch]

It's our fault for arguing with you and using examples sorry

[plush gulch]

im not mad at you

i just think it's pointless

not like im accomplishing anything

[silent leaf]

Like this one

[plush gulch]

you weren't mean to me

[gritty epoch]

Pointless but do it anyway /s

[silent leaf]

#1461854037015134328

[plush gulch]

or anything

[silent leaf]

He runs tricker

Trickster

On 5k ES

And uncapped res

No RT and 70% accuracy

[plush gulch]

basically we will never agree i feel like and im kinda 1v9 like a breach in poe 2 where i don't have the time to cast sunder before dying

im still traumatised

by my first warrior

[gritty epoch]

Well it's in poe1 channel

[karmic gust]

ah yes the i click es and click trickster then make garbage build and pretend im tanky setups

[plush gulch]

yup

[karmic gust]

are there even any trickster builds this league that arent 0dps

[silent leaf]

I'm not sure why ppl even pick trickster if you don't even have 10k ES+

[gritty epoch]

I leaugestarted warrior too many times in a row too

[plush gulch]

which game

[karmic gust]

any ES build < 10k es is just worse than life build

[inner prawn]

wdym which game

[silent leaf]

And 100% suppress

[gritty epoch]

Warrior

[plush gulch]

im tired

2 am i should have wxent to sleep two hours ago

[plush gulch]

sometimes im like did he mean to say warrior or should have said marauder

x)

[elfin shale]

How much was the Suppress craft again? 7%?

[elfin spire]

So, I started my journey in Poe 1 as occultist on bane shenanigans.
How bad are curse build's atm? (I'm guessing Poe 2 isn't only one making unnecessary nerfs to curse-spam gameplay )

[karmic gust]

if you want to play curse build play impending doom

[elfin shale]

Impending Doom is niche but playable afaik

[karmic gust]

bane was only good pretty much on release

then giga nerfed

[gritty epoch]

I guess there's still impending doom or something

[elfin shale]

And yeah at best you use Bane as a bit of extra damage on EDC

[plush gulch]

without shaco idk if you can make it good

which is a specific unique

[karmic gust]

well there is foulborn

this league

so its very accessible

foulborn doedres helmet i think

[split pagoda]

decided to do just oooone more migrate all fresh start hcssf run

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

[split pagoda]

pretty happy with that time for 4stone

[opaque sphinx]

doedre scorn

[gritty epoch]

Godgamer

[karmic gust]

maybe with foulborn ratpith its possible to make bane alone do damage this league as well

[plush gulch]

soon I have 3K hours in poe 1

[karmic gust]

even corrupting fever manages to do damage with foulborn ratpith so surely bane can too

[plush gulch]

maybe I can upgrade to a lvl 2 noob

[elfin shale]

There's also Will of The Lords new this league, though idk if thats what they want

[elfin spire]

I mean, it's alright with what I do atm: bane then hexblast, with hexblast doing most of damage.
But it feels like I'm doing something wrong

[opaque sphinx]

ur clicking bane

[gritty epoch]

Hexblast

[elfin shale]

Hexblast is good (as ignite cuz they killed the skill for anything else)

[plush gulch]

are you on pohx league

[karmic gust]

yea bane isnt doing much for you there, you would be self casting or automating the curse on hexblast build normally

[opaque sphinx]

no im playing regular league

[karmic gust]

as the dot damage from bane itself is meaningless

[plush gulch]

I try and it's barren land

[karmic gust]

well its fine in acts probably

[elfin spire]

I was thinking about that, yep

[split pagoda]

i went from 20hours to 13h over the span of 3 runs lol, practice helps alot. And this was on bleed boneshatter jugg aswell, I’m pretty sure on zerker slams this same run would’ve been a comfortable 11-something hours

[karmic gust]

but will not scale for long

[opaque sphinx]

dont really see a point in playing a private league of the regular league

[plush gulch]

no grass on a 100 kilometer radius

[opaque sphinx]

same shit less players

[plush gulch]

i skipped keeper

so I wanted to start like others

and I saw 20K people

joined

it really didn't feel like 20 000k

lol

i feel like we are five

[opaque sphinx]

nah 20k signed up im pretty sure 5k actually played

[karmic gust]

well thats all peple in the league right and not actively playing ones

[plush gulch]

like im checking +1 minion shield and life or str roll and only two on the market

[elfin spire]

Fine for regular acts content, but not good for breach stuff.
Not fast enough most of time.

[plush gulch]

barren land

[opaque sphinx]

yeah just play regular

async means u have options

[plush gulch]

i may switch

back

I saw I can migrate

[karmic gust]

oh right we have breaches in acts this league. yea. well try impending doom + cursed ground, that should be pretty good

idr whats the most basic ass setupon impending

cursed ground curse impending cascade?

something likethat idk

[opaque sphinx]

u just do regular impending doom