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[plush gulch]

i hope I can fix it

[unique silo]

xd ikr. i just hope the gear isnt too expensive. btw ive seen ppl change idk if its prefix or what but the stats are like +1 to socket level or something

[proud gorge]

I mean, it's a league mechanic lmao

[unique silo]

which currency do u use to change that

[ocean field]

I think my first league will forever be the best imo

[plush gulch]

btw guys there is so little gear on the pohx league idk why

[ocean field]

don't think anything will beat merc

[plush gulch]

it's supposed to be 20K ppl

[normal hedge]

no its not supposed to be 20k people

thats the amount of players who applied to join

not even 5% of them made it to maps id say

[plush gulch]

weird

[unique silo]

maybe tweak some nvidia settings. i think i had the same issue, changed to direct x11 and lowered a few things

[ocean field]

I only do like 20% of the damage I used to do 🙁

[normal hedge]

5% is actually too much

[proud gorge]

I mean, I definitely wouldn't leaguestart on that build

but the uniques it requires to function shouldn't be too expensive

[heady cliff]

when mercs come back, their minimal resistances would be 0% almost for sure

[unique silo]

spot on

[heady cliff]

and exile might not be a pinnable atlas boss anymore

[plush gulch]

what are people doing man

[proud gorge]

I highly doubt they're bringing mercs back lmao

[plush gulch]

did they took an arrow in the knee during the loading screen

[proud gorge]

mercs are just free generic power

[ocean field]

with 200% shred without 200% shred comparision

[normal hedge]

prolly playing trove or something

[plush gulch]

lol

[normal hedge]

oh not trove

hytale**

[proud gorge]

I complain a lot about Mageblood being just extra free power on your build for any build that can use it

[plush gulch]

merc are temporary

so whatever

[proud gorge]

but Mercs is just a whole bunch of extra free item slots for your build

[unique silo]

simulacrum is available on every league yes?

[ocean field]

merc making a cumback

iirc

[normal hedge]

yeah but not the way you know them

[ocean field]

ggg said they bring merc back

[normal hedge]

dont expect GGG letting doryani merc be a thing again

[plush gulch]

I dislike when they make mecanics impossible to ignore

I loved totaz

[ocean field]

😔

[proud gorge]

if mercs were ever added back to the game in any degree, it would just be mandatory on every single build no matter what

[plush gulch]

because everything else in the game is so cool too

[proud gorge]

if they add them back it'll probably just be as a single-map partner

[plush gulch]

so i don't need the mecanic bothering me at every map

[split maple]

only if they give quant

[normal hedge]

my merc was just a osin 350% malevolence bot

[split maple]

tho i sure miss wrath+zeal fallen reverend

its nice doing inquis without reservation pressure

[proud gorge]

even if they didn't give quant, they'd be used on every single build, because again it's just a bunch of free item slots for your build at zero cost

[ocean field]

still usefull as an aura bot

[split maple]

cws for example rly didnt like them

[ocean field]

so prolly every single build

[proud gorge]

CWS is one of the only builds where mercs had an actual downside

[normal hedge]

even if its only one aura you can still stack a lot of inc effect

[proud gorge]

because you wanted to take all the hits yourself

[ocean field]

CWS player have skill issue

[plush gulch]

still for me nothing is as bad as T17 and T16.5

[proud gorge]

so having a second body to absorb hits was an issue

[plush gulch]

😔

[normal hedge]

nah you could have a merc with cws no issues

[proud gorge]

it wasn't a huge downside, but it was sort of one

[ocean field]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[proud gorge]

but yeah, if they do bring mercs back, you know how it's going to be, right?

you encounter a merc at the start of a map, you can take their stuff or their money, and if you hire them they accompany you for that one map

and that's it

[ocean field]

ts lowkey ass

You need a merc

to have stuff

[proud gorge]

there's absolutely zero chance they bring back mercs as a permanent accompanying character, because again, that's an enormous amount of completely free and incredibly generic power

for every single build in the game

[plush gulch]

who was saying they will bring back merc

who is crazy

[tranquil sedge]

it was only free because of how tanky mercs are lol

[plush gulch]

i want name

[tranquil sedge]

like they survive most content with zero effort

so u can gear them to be giga support/dps

[brazen vector]

So is cluster jewels

[tranquil sedge]

and u dont give a shit about defences on them

even if u did one recover on block shield or a doppel's was like most of the effort required

[proud gorge]

even if they weren't squishy, they'd still be free power, you'd just have to put defenses on them. But nonetheless, every single build ever would be required to run them

[plush gulch]

i saw a zizaran short yesterday

[tranquil sedge]

that obviously doesn't address giga broken items like doryani's but they know those exist

[plush gulch]

he was saying you don't need res on them

[tranquil sedge]

yes but they're free to balance them as they please lol

[ocean field]

yeah balance and bring back mercs

ggg

[tranquil sedge]

if mercs needed the same resists you did or hp/es or recovery layers

[plush gulch]

but I also saw a youtube short

[tranquil sedge]

their 'power' drops a lot

[proud gorge]

it doesn't actually matter if they're squishier, or anything, the mere fact that it's completely free item slots with no downside means every single build would be forced to run them

[tranquil sedge]

i mean

[proud gorge]

even if you have to equip defensive items in every slot

[tranquil sedge]

it doesn't matter?

its not a compromise

like AG is

its free player power

[proud gorge]

they'd still be extra free power at no cost

[tranquil sedge]

thats like saying every build is forced to use a body armor

oh no the horror

[proud gorge]

I'm saying I don't think Mercs should be half your build

[plush gulch]

😅

[tranquil sedge]

i dont remember saying that either

[plush gulch]

but mercs are half your build

[proud gorge]

you compared building a merc to wearing body armour

[plush gulch]

in lot of cases

[livid quarry]

naw man merc was more than half my dps

[plush gulch]

they give you so much stuff you don't need to use yourself

[proud gorge]

yes, if mercs were added back into the game as permanent companions, they'd instantly become as required a part of a build as your armour

[plush gulch]

and everyone signed to put on a body armour but not merc

[proud gorge]

and I think that would be a bad thing

[tranquil sedge]

yea they're broken if they're brought back as-is
if the balance it then more players in this game can enjoy some coop mechanics even if they remove all the busted shit about them

make item mods weaker if they apply it, make them harder to actually live in maps, make them give no party quant buff but still give the +50% hp to all monsters in map, all that shit

basically what you're saying is YOU didn't like mercs

[proud gorge]

no I'm saying mercs were fine as borrowed power

[tranquil sedge]

because you don't like having to do one more thing in every build

[proud gorge]

they definitely shouldn't be in the game

[plush gulch]

adding so much balances issue

[proud gorge]

as a core mechanic

[livid quarry]

farming in poe makes me sad. there was loot in merc but it was abyss hordes

[tranquil sedge]

but this entire game is litreally just ticking boxes on every build

[livid quarry]

now theres no loot

[plush gulch]

so much work, they mess up once and everyone is doing merc again

[tranquil sedge]

i mean the expectation would be yes everyone would be using a merc

[plush gulch]

it's like the quantity problem but on steroid

[sleek barn]

i think we came up with an ok solution last time the merc debate was bought up

i forgot what it was

[proud gorge]

yeah, if mercs are in the game as permanent free companions, to any degree, it's just now a core part of your itemization, equivalent to flasks and body armour

regardless of any nerfs

[sleek barn]

theres no use for them being temporary companions though

[plush gulch]

everything is about opportunity cost, there isn't with merc it's free, idk how it can even work okfay

[sleek barn]

at the end of the day i don't think they're returning as companions

[muted sleet]

Merc makes ag redundant or irrelevant to some degree. It’s a busted ag essentially

[sleek barn]

or allies

[tranquil sedge]

would take AG update in lieu too

like mercs show you just how trash AG is

[proud gorge]

yeah, like I said, most likely case is they return as "talk to them at the start of a map, and you can steal their gear/money/hire them for that one map only"

[sleek barn]

at most mercs can return as allies without the ability to equip unique items

[sleek barn]

thats what i proposed but many said they would just skip them

[plush gulch]

i hate those mecanics they are fun at the start but forced to interact with it or knowing you probably lost a mageblood at some point but it never give anything good

[tranquil sedge]

so instead of getting to gear the merc deterministically u just hunt a mandatory great merc instead with rng

[proud gorge]

yeah, and that's... fine. It's meant to be a single league mechanic, not the entire game

[tranquil sedge]

the main reason mercs were broken:

• they can survive basically any content with basically any gear on them
• the party quant buff
• extra abusable uniques like doryani's and whatever dozen others were there

[sleek barn]

aha but make them have no skills either

useless ass mf

[tranquil sedge]

oh yea their overlevelled as shit skills too

like lvl 27 auras lmao

[proud gorge]

wrong, the main reason mercs were broken is that they're free extra player power with zero cost

[plush gulch]

i think they are broken even without all of that they are AG but without any cost

[sleek barn]

if you have a merc your frames should be divided in 2

[proud gorge]

it doesn't matter at all what sort of nerfs they catch, as long as it's free extra item slots with no cost they'd remain broken

[sleek barn]

60fps -> 30fps

[tranquil sedge]

if everyone did +10 fire damage (literally +10) on every skill from tomorrow in a new update

guess what that is free player power too

guess what that is also NOT broken

[sleek barn]

problem solved

[tranquil sedge]

free does not mean broken

mercs were broken because they were broken

[proud gorge]

If there were an orb you could keep in your inventory that gave everyone +10 fire damage, then yes, everyone would be forced to acquire and keep that orb in their inventory forever, permanently

and that sounds super annoying and stupid

[tranquil sedge]

nobody gives a shit about doing mandatory things if there's a reward for doing those things

and this entire game is about doing stupid annoying mandatory things hello

[proud gorge]

no it's not?

[sleek barn]

not if you take EE and need exposure of another type

[tranquil sedge]

yes it is lmfao

[sleek barn]

[tranquil sedge]

this entire game is a tick checkbox simulator

nothign more

get 135% all res

get life

get es

get recovery

get armor/evasion

[proud gorge]

Sounds like you're not enjoying the game my guy

maybe take a break from PoE

go do something else

[tranquil sedge]

no im just pointing out how you make some cringe disingenous arguments

[proud gorge]

it's a game to be enjoyed

[tranquil sedge]

this game is tick the boxes and kill mobs get loot and kill more mobs

if you have to tick more boxes but they give you more things to do, and you get rewarded for it, that's fine

[proud gorge]

again, if there were a set of orbs that gave you free extra stats, and the only downside was making the experience more annoying, then yes, everyone would be forced to use them. That's literally the case with Charms in D2

[tranquil sedge]

i do take breaks, why do you think im not playing 3.27, if the league's not fun i skip it

[proud gorge]

and you know what? They removed Charms when making PoE

because they were annoying yet mandatory on every build

[tranquil sedge]

making the experience more annoying
like i said all the way at the start
you don't think that having mercs permanently in the game, as one more thing on every build, would be fun

in other words you're basically arguging for all the reasons you would not enjoy it

'more annoying' is subjective

which is fine, ofc

can't tell u what is enjoyable or not

[potent horizon]

What's yalls plan for next league

[plush gulch]

forcing everyone to do the annoying thing is another issue bro

[tranquil sedge]

but all your arguments are just boiled down to 'i dont like mercs as permanent thing to do on every build'

[potent horizon]

Got any builds in mind

[pulsar dune]

Spiral mines or poison pf

[tranquil sedge]

and there's nothign wrong with having that take but he's trying to pretend he's not having pretty much exactly that take

[proud gorge]

yes, that's literally what I've been saying the whole time

[plush gulch]

people are planning this ahead lol

[tranquil sedge]

ye that's fine we can end it there ig

[potent horizon]

First player to mention mines that's exciting

[tranquil sedge]

slammer leaguestart if i play 3.28 i think

[plush gulch]

then that's just misscommunication

happens

[pulsar dune]

Spiral mines have miserable costs, but it's probably the second best/best mine skill other than that.

Rolling magma is really good, but you get fewer chains than you get proj

[potent horizon]

I have been considering a winter orb min max for my second league

[pulsar dune]

Oof

[proud gorge]

but yes, my point is that I don't think a single league mechanic should be this fundamental to the basic building of your character, especially one that's presumably not going to be accessible starting in Act 1. And on top of that, it would probably require a pretty fundamental changeup of the mechanics and gameplay of the entire game to compensate for the fact that the player is expected to be accompanied by a second character at all times.

[potent horizon]

I just don't know how rough it'll be seeing it to the end

[pulsar dune]

IDK if worb has any tools to rescue it from all the nerfs it got

[sleek barn]

i shall wait for patch notes

[potent horizon]

Oh i don't keep up with skill nerfs I had no idea

I should probably wait and read patch notes too

[pulsar dune]

It got those nerfs ages ago

[proud gorge]

like, it would be so fundamental of a change to basic character building that it would basically be a different game, one with "Go on an adventure through Wraeclast with your Companion by your side" on the Steam summary page

[pulsar dune]

Yeah patch nodes will obviously affect things

[potent horizon]

If not winter orb I was considering cold dot

[sleek barn]

my companion is my two wetas

[pulsar dune]

Cold dot is probably a stronger pick

[plush gulch]

i bought my first 6 link in pohx league

[sleek barn]

poidon pf what lak

[tranquil sedge]

did u buy that just for the 6 link?

[sleek barn]

<@&174997701513969665>

[pulsar dune]

Probably SA into spark, hopefully mamba but I'm not holding my breath

[proud gorge]

mods

[sleek barn]

waha srev slow

[tranquil sedge]

dunno what ur saying 😄

[plush gulch]

wow how mods are so fasdt

do they ban people with their thoughts

[stuck phoenix]

Well, when ur on and get pinged

[tranquil sedge]

dan tagged them lol

[stuck phoenix]

I was too slow btw

[sleek barn]

spark is ambitious for league start no?

[potent horizon]

They always lurkin

[pulsar dune]

That's why scourge arrow first

[sleek barn]

true

i just never liked how SA felt

[pulsar dune]

Tho with how my leaguestarts go spark would be fine

[sleek barn]

good luck

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I dunno if you were here when I talked about it, but one thing I do find funny is how the nature of the MTX transfer guarentee between PoE1 and PoE2 means that they can't actually change the item slots between the two games

no Pants slot for PoE2

[pulsar dune]

I can just do Alva betrayal for a while

[tranquil sedge]

pretty sure ggg pays the discord mods for their work lol ||bigly 0 dollars per hour||

[pulsar dune]

As I always do

Maybe I just play flicker

[sleek barn]

i remember when bido was just green name

[proud gorge]

and even if they wanted to, they couldn't remove the Belt slot in PoE2 either

[pulsar dune]

Click terminus est

[sleek barn]

[pulsar dune]

And win the video game in scoured T16s

[proud gorge]

because they have to have something to attach belt MTX to

[plush gulch]

guys i thought my absolution build sucked but i discovered I was on a two link all along

I thought it was 6 link

[proud gorge]

nice

[potent horizon]

I started flicker recently in keepers and it's so fun but I had to make sure I had a good portal MTX

[plush gulch]

i thought it was 6 link

[sleek barn]

BAH

classic

[proud gorge]

how do you not notice the lack of little letters on the skill icon

[sleek barn]

did you get scammed or no

[plush gulch]

that's why I saw it today

why the fuck is there 2 letter

[sleek barn]

hopefully not scammed

[pulsar dune]

Main thing I'll avoid is playing a stacker, it's really not fun

[plush gulch]

mana stacker sounds fun

never did it

[sleek barn]

pretty fun

depending on what you do with it

[plush gulch]

big healtpool

[sleek barn]

its also easy to do league start

[plush gulch]

int stacker looks like cbt

[proud gorge]

yeah, Foulborn Kikas are a fun new avenue for mana stacking

[sleek barn]

never touched that shit

[plush gulch]

do you want a +3 int ring, 2 mirror please

[potent horizon]

I was considering shrine stacker as guardian

[sleek barn]

i used dream fragments for a while lmao

[potent horizon]

Shrine stacking seems really fun

[plush gulch]

i think it's only one at a time no ?

unless I recall wrong

[proud gorge]

you know what else MTX transfers guarentee

[plush gulch]

in poe 2 it is

[proud gorge]

it guarentees that PoE2 needs to have charges in it

[potent horizon]

I might be wrong and there mightve been an update from 3.26 to now for the shrine stacker

[sleek barn]

oh lmao

this is still my ring for my manabond guy

[proud gorge]

even if the charges are incredibly extraneous and don't do anything, and are basically just weird skill interaction numbers

[split maple]

there is a new sword for it no?

[proud gorge]

PoE2 needs to have visible charges so that the PoE1 charge skins have something to attach to

[potent horizon]

I have no idea I might make the character now before reset to limit test it

[proud gorge]

their design space is being restricted by their own promise to allow all MTX to be transferrable to PoE2 and usable in PoE2

not, like, overmuch, but it is

[split maple]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Golden_Charlatan

[sleek barn]

i don't like the concept of shrine stacker

[potent horizon]

Wait this looks interesting

[sleek barn]

i get it though

its llike HH

[split maple]

its very hot build this league

[sleek barn]

i've always wanted to do a blunderbore build anyways

eh looking at the sword would it be used for CoC?

login CoC archmage

[split maple]

idk i only saw zeeboub version of EK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1oNxzEpquU

but i didnt dig into that build much, sword too rare

[sleek barn]

quite funny

HH + shrines + wine

i see the vision

[hard cliff]

what do you do on standalone bosses though

[sleek barn]

dunno

vaal breach maybe

even though its not supposed to exist

[split maple]

i will make wild guess that if zee wants to boss he logins into his inquis

[pulsar dune]

It's a dedicated farmer for some hard content that would be too hard to do honestly

[plush gulch]

it doesn't work with pohx league ? i cant price check anything

[ocean field]

gng I did some research and it seems wild strike of extremes is a good alternative to smite

helps with res pen and stuff

any thoughts

?

[stuck phoenix]

It's not a 1 for 1 swap

The cost is annoying

[heady cliff]

check skill costs

[stuck phoenix]

And you'll probably want to raise enemy res with aura runegraft

[heady cliff]

extremes is pretty unique

[ocean field]

could be addressed with whispers

[ocean field]

yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wc2i1P1bqQ say this vid seems decent

This vid was made in merc league but I think this applies now more than ever

[scarlet jacinth]

Finally hit something good..

Do not question my flasks.. i am aware

[tight plinth]

whats build is it for?

mines?

[scarlet jacinth]

Animate weapon. (minion) it has the duration tag

Currently using the basic non foulborn variant but seeing as this build uses bloodmagic. Using this + the additional levels (minion lvl scaling is amazing) i can save 6 points on my tree. and get more levels..

42%~ dmg increase according to pob

[lilac parcel]

i got a mirror from shipping look

[ocean field]

The shipment was delivered to you by mistake

the mirror was supposed to be mine

please return it

[tight plinth]

oh cool, i always wanted to make animate weapon build. but my pob skills are the worst with minions

[lilac parcel]

you justhave to learn paint skills

[ocean field]

whatever bro just return it

[lilac parcel]

its my second shippment of 50 mil to te onui and not even 1 mirror shard

while i got mirror shards from riben fell every time

[split maple]

That's a journey tattoo tho aint it?

[lilac parcel]

yes

its 75 divine one

but i dont think ill ever sell it in standard

i got like 90 divs out of the transport cause of that tattoo

so one mirror shard

[ocean field]

esm do I have to strike the enemy for wildstrike to hit unlike sodk or ls

is it similar to frost blades?

[split maple]

Idk I never looked at that skill

[crisp plinth]

cute

[ocean field]

checked it is similar to frost blades so I guess gotta look for smt else

[elfin shale]

Is there an easy way to get 50 - 100% inc projectile speed on the top of the tree without the support

Are there good clusters maybe

[brazen vector]

Bow and quiver

Or quiver and widowhail

[kindred silo]

usually u path right side and tattoo dex nodes

the clusters kinda suck

[jagged raven]

so how do i kill Nightmare of Catarina boss? keep dying to him

[split maple]

burst her down, kill the add, burst her down, kill the add, ... do that 3x

dont walk on green lines around the area

[scarlet jacinth]

^And keep your health above 0

[split maple]

and if she summons skulls you have to walk over them before they summon skellies

they nasty

thats it pretty much

[opaque sphinx]

I was about to say, chaos res and high regen lmao but ur RF

[split maple]

if think enjoyer has a frosser too

[jagged raven]

she does a aoe blast thing i get 1shot

[scarlet jacinth]

Health.. high health helps allot

[jagged raven]

man i thought coc fross is tanky dying to t17 bosses :(

[split maple]

if you cannot tank the skull dont stand in skull

[opaque sphinx]

if u don’t have sustain that’s not leech the fight is absolutely abysmal

[jagged raven]

oh i might be doing that

too much stuff on screen

lol

[scarlet jacinth]

Petrified blood also somewhat helps if your issue is 1 shots

[opaque sphinx]

No it doesn’t

[elfin shale]

This is for a wand build so,

[opaque sphinx]

That’s the opposite of what PB does

[split maple]

like she is prolly one of most complex bosses

takes a few runs to get used to her

[scarlet jacinth]

Did i get my gems mixed up.. holdup

[split maple]

then she is a friendly lady with good frag bias

[elfin shale]

Only if you're a pathfinder lol

[opaque sphinx]

Unless ur a pathfinder with master surgeon PB doesn’t inc max hits

[scarlet jacinth]

Ow shit i forgot the only from flasks line.. yep mb

[split maple]

pb for usual builds helps with non-one shot scenarios at cost of lil bit of max hit yea

[scarlet jacinth]

I did it on cws. but thats recoup..

[split maple]

so nothing to help there, but also not with fross in general thats ci build

[elfin shale]

Rain skills dont benefit from far shot/point blank at all right?

Or do they trace their impact spot to where you fired

[opaque sphinx]

Ngl I always wondered and never got a real answer

[elfin shale]

Projectile attacks with AoE

Point blank bonuses are calculated based on the distance from where it was fired to the enemy hit

Looking positive?

[elfin shale]

And it works with Arrow Nova support though thats not a traditional rain skill

[elfin shale]

Sick and since theyre ground targeted no Fledgling downside right?

[opaque sphinx]

I assume not

Who knows tho tbh, could be some jank where if u stand on the target and shoot it does nothing

Nah looks like it ignores the downside

[scarlet jacinth]

Did not know these could be originator..

[blissful zodiac]

even tho bows arent considered popular

I wanna put my hh to use

[silent leaf]

ye its not popular cause everyone and their mother runs wander

bows are like melee prob

no one touches after day 3 lmao

[light sundial]

Hi guys, do you think its worth it to start this season or am I too late?

[sleek barn]

never too late

[grizzled lily]

if i have eblade, does it matter if i use ephemeral edge or not?

[split maple]

you want any onehander

probably one with abysal socket

[light sundial]

Any tips on how to farm currency this late into league? I wanna to do a LA Deadeye build

[split maple]

melee is meta sicne like settlers lol

[grizzled lily]

the stats on it wont matter huh

damn

[sleek barn]

dunno i haven't been playing much unfortunately

[silent leaf]

i mean yea

do the

3-7 day melee farming

[split pagoda]

did a bleed jugg run to 4stone on HC, this shit is strong tbh

no trading

[silent leaf]

and never ever touch marauder / duelist / non CI melee anymore

like theres no reason llmao

[split pagoda]

I ended up dying to extra proj blue altar mobs but im pretty sure if I had been locked in actually reading stuff this woulda have been a 22h uber shaper kill or smth

[split maple]

testing starters for next leg?

[split pagoda]

yep

[silent leaf]

the fucking saddest

thing that made melees meta is EE

3.25 - 3.26

3.27 melee is just 3-7 day until you get recombs

[split pagoda]

rn it seems quite likely hit based slams (earthshatter) gets nerfed and bleed boneshatter lives

so I wanted to try bleed sunder into boneshatter

[split maple]

you did cis or trans bleedshater?

[split pagoda]

trans boneshatter

[elfin shale]

Building Alva temples is easy profit and doable on scoured white maps

[split maple]

i think i was looking into that around necrosettlers or smh like that

didnt try it out then tho

[light sundial]

Will check that out, thank you!

[split pagoda]

its defo like even more hc oriented than zerker slams id say. But I mean if earthshatter zerker gets nerfed and ur goal is getting into t17s and farming ubers early I think bleed boneshatter jugg is gonna be a good choice even for sc

cuz it can do it day1 lol

[split maple]

i rly liked earthshatter this leg yea

strong enough to carry my zero-reflex ass to lvl90 hc achiviement

[split pagoda]

yeah earthshatter is so good. boneshatter is definitely even more divisive in terms of liking it or not

[grizzled lily]

wild strike of extremes eblade trickster

[split pagoda]

some people cant stand the strike gameplay it has

[grizzled lily]

kinda good

[elfin shale]

Its not super fast and mainly serves as a way to get 10 - 20d and break into better farms

[elfin shale]

Cold convert so you can use Brittle Unseen Hue

[light sundial]

Thats cool, any tips on what to transition into later down the line?

[elfin shale]

No clue i suck at this game

[light sundial]

Same LUL

[split pagoda]

What might happen is overexertion gets nerfed which would be a nerf to bleedshatter as well. But it doesnt rely on it nearly as much as hit based slams, atm you typically run max 3 and in some setups even just 2 warcries with it

at 2 warcries its only a 46% more dmg support, whereas earthshatter atm gets 100% more dmg from it

[split maple]

whats your 3rd choice in case es and bone unusable?

[split pagoda]

I havent gotten that far yet 😂 did a practice run with slams zerker then the boneshatter one now

[split maple]

fair enough 😄

[split pagoda]

Id probably consider some bleed slam slayer stuff first

Like if its a targetted earthshatter/boneshatter nerf + overexertion then bleed slams hasnt really been touched at all

Used other slams and no overexertion iirc

If all slams are gonezo and boneshatter bad then its gg

back to the drawing board

[split maple]

you will figure out something for sure even then and then i will shamelessly copy your homework

[normal hedge]

thats easy we go back to toxic rain

[split maple]

emm

i have to do that lightning res thingie now right?

[sleek barn]

holy balls

gz

[split pagoda]

damn wtf

[livid quarry]

is it good in ssf?

[tranquil sedge]

ur ssf luck is unethical

[split maple]

This league I fear I am burning my supply of luck out forever

[split maple]

Idk depends on if I get lucky with voices (then I go for it on kboc) otherwise idk for accustacker it's kinda interesting

I rly hope folks saying meatsacks shit out 5k alts instead of loot isnt overestimation now

Oh wait fuck I can even do relic of the pact now if I drop that

[tranquil sedge]

insert vince mcmahon meme of his mind progressively exploding

[cobalt blade]

holy

[worldly bridge]

i have a question about frost blades

ive seen people do claw setups

but its a sword only skill

unless im just horribly misremembering the builds, this shouldnt be possible

[cobalt blade]

p sure frost blades is any melee weapon

[worldly bridge]

ohhhh

close combat

i didnt realize it came from that support

interesting that support gems have weapon restrictions

[cobalt blade]

lol ye thatd do it

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-nodding-keep-it-up-john-cena-wwe-gif-17784112

[thick goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-ltg-mods-low-tier-god-mods-balls-gif-6304382572771063267

there's actually no way

[frigid wedge]

GG WTF

[eternal hill]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-cream-of-the-gif-23139839

[normal hedge]

<@&174997701513969665>

[elfin shale]

Phys wands are probably >>> tri-ele due to there being around 30% gain phys as extra lightning on the tree right?

[split maple]

phys wands are good bc headhunter

[elfin shale]

Im a megablood gamer i dont wanna deal with Shade Walker

[split maple]

then you can freely consider tri-eles too

like main diff is there is a lot of monster mods that are phys as extra

[serene abyss]

Shade Walker is great though, you get to cosplay as a flickserstrike build

[elfin shale]

On my Kinetic Rain build

[normal hedge]

hh is really good for kb, when you steal the ice wall mod it increases your single target in 99999%

(accurate numbers)

[craggy ibex]

Does the esclation scarab incease T17 map drops or regular map drops?

Anyone tested?

[split maple]

increasing regular map drops is good for t17 drops by default

[craggy ibex]

that would make sense since they upgrade a tier

[elfin shale]

Is there any use for Kineticism

[stuck phoenix]

I almost wanted to run that for KR

But I wanted knockback on both hits so went with the notable instead

[elfin shale]

Kinetic Rain?

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[elfin shale]

Guess knockback would be kinda handy

Im running trans KR and as far as i can tell you can only get 2 overlaps instead of 3 if the enemy is in your face

<@&174997701513969665>

[thick goblet]

pog logan paul

[stuck phoenix]

It's especially nice for actually doing some dps in melee range

Yes

[heady cliff]

Unexpected disconnection occured

usually during blights though

[pale rose]

In the atlas tree what should I go for if I want to farm chaos orbs/any currency

[chilly creek]

Would it be to late to start poe 1 im on console

[golden moat]

its branching exile! but seriously what is goign on with this portal lol

[unique silo]

why is it so hard to roll unspeakable gifts on cluster ffs

[uneven gust]

hmm

[plush gulch]

isn't this node insane ?

you need to find a way to generate lot of corpse and consume them often

that seem manageable for such a huge gain

even for your minions defense

[lean urchin]

body swap spam

[plush gulch]

why are skeletons so slow

what's up with these

[lean urchin]

no meat on them legs

[plush gulch]

feels unusable

[lean urchin]

many years ago i used feeding frenzy so they at least dash

[plush gulch]

i just got skeleton archers

horrible speed

i think it's the slowest Ive ever seen

so insane

still expensive, still can't afford them they don't even exist to a high enough number anyway

I need to build around other minions

[plush gulch]

i like the tiger they got insane clear, wave that feels the whole screen, they dash

do you know off meta minions as cool ?

not something like the meta one that are just either dull or obnoxious

[lean urchin]

nop. when i say "last time i played minions" it was blight league

[plush gulch]

i wasn't even born yet

[lean urchin]

i like the spectre changes, but im not sold on it yet

[plush gulch]

not even tried poe

I see

[stuck phoenix]

🤨

[plush gulch]

joking

im 28

[stuck phoenix]

You better be

[plush gulch]

I started in tota

[elfin shale]

Corpsewalker + Disciple of Kitava

[plush gulch]

right now im using absolution

but without living lightning it's not as cool

so meh

and living lightning sucks so unplaybale

[subtle forge]

yeah, frankly, they should have that dash of theirs as a baseline feature

[plush gulch]

because they seem off meta I would hav played them in a heartbeat

[subtle forge]

instead of something that only activates when they're made aggressive

[plush gulch]

getting aggressive is annoying

[subtle forge]

yeah

[plush gulch]

every minion should be aggressive

:p

[subtle forge]

I ran skeles back in Metamorph league, they were quite strong at the time

[plush gulch]

im not running an hospital here

[plush gulch]

oh metamorph it was such a bad mecanic but kinda interesting also

[subtle forge]

bit of a shame that barely anything was done with the Metamorph mechanism

just collect bosses to combine into one, and that's it

no bonus content or lore or story beyond that

could've been way more than what it was

[plush gulch]

i tried looking other minions but I don't find anything cool

you have strong stuff but not cool one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLwbeb8UM3A

look at the beauty

[craggy ibex]

Why are lvl 4 corrupted exceptional awakened gems much more expensive than lvl 4 exceptional gems? They give the same stats and cannot be corrupted again.

[plush gulch]

when you have 7 of them it's wonderful

[lean urchin]

the awakened version can get to level 5 with corruptino, instead of max 4 non awakened

[subtle forge]

if you're able to get the jewels for it, carrion golem of scavenging is really slept on

[plush gulch]

why scavenging ?N

[thick goblet]

because people are dumb

[craggy ibex]

I know that but both are these are corrupted

[lean urchin]

attempting to "scam" then

[plush gulch]

🤔

[cobalt blade]

they look fancier

[plush gulch]

it's 10 chaos on pohx league, i have 80 chaos

[subtle forge]

noice

[plush gulch]

the clear should be bad no

[craggy ibex]

Looks like it. Initially I thought Runegraft of Gemcraft might work on them but since they have the Exceptional tag it won’t

[plush gulch]

if you got only one

[lean urchin]

"exceptional" ones are empower, enlighten, enhance

the 3 E

[plush gulch]

i think people have so much money they don't even bother learning the gamer and spend the money on whatever they think make them more powerful

some rmt

so they buy your scam gems

[subtle forge]

"Golem Commander" notable adds 1
the Anima Stone plus 3 "Primordial" items adds another
Clayshaper mace adds 1, or 2 if you're using a pair of them
Elementalist (if you're using that) adds 2 more

[lean urchin]

i think there is an overlap of new players and rmters

[plush gulch]

oh I thought it was a special minion you could only have one of

[subtle forge]

1 is the default max, yeah, but you can add a whole bunch more lol

[plush gulch]

the evil server

[plush gulch]

no anima stone in the server

i think we are 5 to play on pohx server

[subtle forge]

ahhh, you're on a private server

[plush gulch]

I need to be careful with the build I choose

[subtle forge]

derp on my part lmao

[plush gulch]

i thought it was popular the pohx league

it's my first private league

I guess everyone hate poe 2 and yet they still all went to play it

i mean I play poe 2 too but im not two faced

[lean urchin]

i havent tried it yet. doesnt look like my game

[oak bluff]

when's the next league?

[plush gulch]

sadly enough it become closer and closer to poe 1

so it is

look up snoobae twister build

you'll see stuff that belong in poe 1

it is what it is

[plush gulch]

I think early march

check the news

[elfin shale]

Poe2 is gonna be great in like 10 leagues

Right now though

[oak bluff]

oh word. didn't want to start if it was ending soon.

[subtle forge]

"Early access" amirite 😄

[plush gulch]

im not worried, game take times and at least we have stuff to play not like LE that is out but slowest content release

[elfin shale]

I hate that they only do balance changes every 4 months, it feels so bad when theyre still trying to figure out balance

[plush gulch]

not like we don't have content while it improve

[lean urchin]

looks cool

[plush gulch]

sucks they have to wait patches for it

I want them to be like you started twister you sad about the nerf, too bad another nerf

xD

[elfin shale]

I know itd drive people away but i really wish they did a monthly balance patch that actually did big changes

[plush gulch]

the dark soulesk experience is really just the first few acts of the campaign it gets off fast

[elfin shale]

Like how they obliterated Supercharged Slam midway through 0.1

Act 1 is like 50x better than the rest of PoE2 combined its really funny

Act 4 is also pretty good but some of the areas are a snooze

[plush gulch]

I love so much act 4

I hate act 3

act 2 alright

act 1 very good

but freythorn wtf is this

xD

[elfin shale]

Why is Deshar 3 areas

Every time i do it i cry in agony

[plush gulch]

😮 I don't have an issue in act 2 tbh

im trying to think

I hate so much act 3 I guess more half way in act 3

i don't think act 2 even register as problematic in any way

[thick goblet]

act 1 geonor was magical the first time i fought him

[plush gulch]

I hate act 3 starting from the moment you have to pick up soul core

everything onward (beside the flame tower area)

I really dislike it

[plush gulch]

yeah

so awesome

jamanra is a let down compared to it

Doryani is cool still

[subtle forge]

does "early access" last this long elsewhere lol

[plush gulch]

it's alright

yes it does alister

you have many game that never even get out of early access

did you hear about scam citizen

my bad I meant star citizen

or any survival zombie game

[plush gulch]

idk why it's a problem we provide feedbacks to them that is infinitely more valuable than 10 guy in a room trying out random stuff

[subtle forge]

heh

[plush gulch]

when you think about it we play a build from start to finish

while them do they have time to try out one build, one interaction from start to finish

seems quite time consuming and not efficient at all

when you got so many stuff to try

mostly because of the depth of the game

if it was D4 I wouldn't say the same thing

@subtle forgehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRtZDf83x4&list=PLCawpqTKEfCgCP2hqwKFotRWJQdHiQYBN&index=20

did you check that one

it's amazing too

[elfin shale]

Hey

7 Days To Die is officially out of Alpha

Too bad its still dogshit

[plush gulch]

how many years

[elfin shale]

13 i think

[plush gulch]

idk if we can count that high

scam citizen

let's not even talk about it

[elfin shale]

12 years

[plush gulch]

scam of creation got out

no ?

[elfin shale]

Project Zomboid is technically still in EA i think but it got a large update for the first time in 5 years or so

[plush gulch]

i remember my friend wanting me to play it

and me not wanting to spend 15 bucks for it

I tried it and didn't feel like i wanted to spend 15

or 20

[elfin shale]

Its great after you spend 300 hours on it

[plush gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7A68qMU00&list=PLCawpqTKEfCgCP2hqwKFotRWJQdHiQYBN&index=30

lmao I was like wait he is badass

then I saw him doing stuff

[potent horizon]

The perfect naval officer is so fun

[plush gulch]

are there other one you like ?N

im looking for something to build around

the meta one don't catch my fancy

and tiger are too expensive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_vjd-IKQX0&list=PLCawpqTKEfCgCP2hqwKFotRWJQdHiQYBN&index=57

this one seems good

cool attack

[potent horizon]

Hmmmm this was my first leaue and I started with minions the first specters were perfect cannibals but I honestly think I want to do floating perfect sword and also using animate weapon of self reflection or ranged weapon to combo

[dusky marsh]

Anyone plays poe 1 on ps5? Do you have problem with lagging too? If not do you play on 60 or 120hz?

[full sphinx]

💪🏽💪🏽

[pseudo axle]

I got a double foulborn skin of the loyal

[inland vessel]

hey quick question, what happens to merchants tabs from a league after a merge to standard?

[whole bluff]

man, it's nice to just put up 1500c of stuff back and forth on faustus, then go smoke

[elfin shale]

Theyre put into normal remove only tabs iirc

[finite quail]

there's like 3 people playing on playstation

you're one of them

[finite quail]

pretty sure they get added to standard in their own remove only tab

like expedition currencies or heist contracts when they're sent to standard where they have their own little remove only tab for it

[inland vessel]

that is good to know, thank you both

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-meme-when-the-gif-21470450

[fickle glen]

Never seen a judge with a six pack before dominus with the gains

[potent horizon]

This the real game

[brazen vector]

Bruh I thought for a second its the glorp discord chat and someone made a glorp edit of that at first glance

[fickle glen]

No it’s just picture taken by my iPhone 17 pro max’s 3 cameras ultra 4k fully paid

[dusky marsh]

@finite quail do you have problem playing poe 1 on ps5?

Laggy yk

[blissful zodiac]

hey chat

whats ur favorite melee weapon base to use

me personally

gotta give it to war staffs

[fickle glen]

Greatsword

[thick goblet]

claw cause lgoh

[finite quail]

i dont play on ps

[fickle glen]

I didn’t know that was a melee weapon

[blissful zodiac]

war staffs dont rolls caster mods

normal staffs do

[fickle glen]

Oh!

[blissful zodiac]

both can be used for melee

I like warstaffs for defense

swords are my second choice because

you cant go wrong with crit

[fickle glen]

Wait do daggers work like the staves too? Runic and normal?

[blissful zodiac]

no

runic can roll both attack and spell

normal roll only attack

[fickle glen]

Hmm ok

Do you think they should add crossbows?

[blissful zodiac]

idk

I honestly dont know

they'd have to make a bunch of new gems for it

since 90% of ranged attacks poe 1 use arrows

and not bolts

correct me if im wrong

[fickle glen]

You’re correct

What about spears?

These weapons I am mentioning I only seen on enemies

Punching exist in this game but no powerfist 😩

[blissful zodiac]

crushing fist

my freind

crushing fist

[fickle glen]

Oh yeah I forgot that retal

[blissful zodiac]

get u some facebreakers

and call it a day

[buoyant steppe]

what do u guys think

[golden moat]

i think we all kind of expect them to sunset poe 1 at some point

[buoyant steppe]

so you wouldn't mind if they stopped working on it this year?

[brazen vector]

We would mind

But its inevitable

[stuck phoenix]

Wdym no. It's literally the same

[brazen vector]

Just not feasible to keep 2 carbon copies of the same game running at the same time

[stuck phoenix]

Is it really punching if you make something else punch for you

[blissful zodiac]

huh

did they change it so rune daggers only roll caster mods

[stuck phoenix]

No

[brazen vector]

There is doryanis fist thingy that let's you punch

[stuck phoenix]

And they also didn't change what a staff can roll

Although of course staff is the same as rune dagger, warstaff is the same as dagger

So if you meant it as in, rune dagger is not the same as warstaff, sure

[buoyant steppe]

what would they need to add to poe 2 to get poe 1 players to stop hating on it

[fickle glen]

You can punch with default attack if you don’t have a weapon equipped

[stuck phoenix]

In a sense, all skills that can be used unarmed are punching

[brazen vector]

Quicksilver flask and an endgame

[stuck phoenix]

Or in other words, staff can roll both attack and spell

[fickle glen]

If the fist connects that’s all that matters 😎

[stuck phoenix]

Warstaff only rolls attack

[blissful zodiac]

I mixed it up then

big oof on my part

[stuck phoenix]

Mixed it up with what

Is the question

There's no such thing as a caster-only weapon base

[fickle glen]

Wand?

[stuck phoenix]

Of course not

[blissful zodiac]

negative

[brazen vector]

Scepter?

[stuck phoenix]

Wand literally only just now got its only pseudo attack-only base

Before this league, attack wanders cried because they suffered more than all other weapon types when rolling

[blissful zodiac]

sceptres can roll attack mods

[fickle glen]

I think scepter is just a magic hammer

[stuck phoenix]

More like a magic mace, but sure

[blissful zodiac]

its considered a melee weapon

[stuck phoenix]

All weapons except wands and bows just are melee weapons

I don't like the word "considered" being used unnecessarily

[fickle glen]

What about shields?

[stuck phoenix]

They are Armour

[fickle glen]

I know there is a shield throw skill

I SEEN IT!

[blissful zodiac]

sst

its a fun skill

[brazen vector]

All 3 Xbox players united

[blissful zodiac]

you play on pc with a controller

[stuck phoenix]

Which explicitly has to specify that its damage is derived from the shield's defensive stats instead of being the shield's damage values since the shield doesn't have damage values

[blissful zodiac]

we are not the same

[brazen vector]

Same thing

[fickle glen]

Imposter

[stuck phoenix]

Xddd

[blissful zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

@brazen vector

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/gnarp-gif-17674531964713888266

[stuck phoenix]

You just called yourself an imposter

[brazen vector]

I just like having not a dead economy for 2 weeks

[blissful zodiac]

I DID NOT

[stuck phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/zatoufly-zatou-moderator-among-us-gif-22806136

This wasn't what I was looking for

[blissful zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/doc-jerry-cua-this-is-gif-19178982

[stuck phoenix]

But it was funny

[stuck phoenix]

Yes you did :p

[blissful zodiac]

nu uh

[stuck phoenix]

Because only if you're imposter do you get that screen

[blissful zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[brazen vector]

[elder marlin]

urs is so smol

[elder marlin]

How do i guarantee transfer a suffix from i base to another

I have that mod isolated on a bad base

[umbral crag]

Depends on the base its on and what base u wanna transfer to

[elder marlin]

Its on a tornado wand, i want to transfer to a profane wand

[umbral crag]

I dont think there is anyway to guarantee a wand transfer? Someone might chime in

[finite quail]

No we dont

[pseudo axle]

oh now you drop after I get curse immunity

oh apparently this is worthless, rip

[silent leaf]

That's pretty good jewel ngl

[candid moon]

Yh youd normally want curse on implicit rather than affix

[silent leaf]

I want every stat of that

[pseudo axle]

two identical ones up for less than 20 c

well, more or less identical

[hard cliff]

@silent leaf

hey

[silent leaf]

wat

[hard cliff]

Playing team fortress 2 and I realized something

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/a/a1/SoldierBuff.png/250px-SoldierBuff.png

they got banners just like poe

lol

[silent leaf]

yea i use blackbox conch

[hard cliff]

Beast

I run cow mangler stock shotgun

[thick goblet]

cow mangler holy

[silent leaf]

2fort battlement spammer

[hard cliff]

It's not very good but when you get them big charged shots on a payload defense

[haughty ermine]

yes certainly

[rancid sluice]

foulborn quill rain might be the best twink bow ever. like its bananas

[thick goblet]

what's your pyro loadout

[hard cliff]

Backburner/Vanilla Shotgun/Homewrecker

never changed it and never will

(well aside from occasionally using flares)

I carry homewrecker just to make spy players sad

[silent leaf]

im more of a stock flamethrower enjoyer myself

[fickle glen]

Dang it, I lost all my map entries because game keeps disconnecting 💔

[silent leaf]

with scorchshot + powerjacking

[lean urchin]

change realm in login screen, see if it helps

[silent leaf]

then again i only swap to pyro when i see an enemy soldier abuser

[fickle glen]

It’s set on auto

[lean urchin]

then you pick whatever u didnt log into

on PC you hit tab to see which realm youre on, top right

[fickle glen]

By realm you mean gateway?

[lean urchin]

yes

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393762031546532010/1456964114051109042/PZRZXJVPXEEA8OUI3.gif

[pseudo axle]

getting armour is annoying

[spice pecan]

power-what now

[umbral crag]

Jacking

[proud gorge]

I know I was planning to build this silly Power Charge/Shock/AoE stacking LC Elementalist

but the utter jankitude of Cast on Portal has drawn me in

[limpid prairie]

Temples are not selling in Keepers, does that mean league is officially dead

[hard cliff]

yes

[hard cliff]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hard cliff]

Nooo he's playing the reddit build

[proud gorge]

the thing I play PoE for is jank-ass bullshit lmao

and this appears to be the pure epitome of jank-ass bullshit

[tight plinth]

jank ass bullshit is where the funs at

[solar smelt]

So i always have trouble with certain bosses in maps regardless of league and my two biggest nemesis are kardis and the hag from the burial mounds with soul eater. How do I effectively neuter their mechanics?

[silent leaf]

ngl

i dont even know what those 2 are

[tawdry olive]

You get more dps

[silent leaf]

soul eater you just fuck off with portal scroll

and go back 1 min

soul eater will be gone by then

[solar smelt]

Crimson township boss and rhe burial mounds boss

[silent leaf]

yea crimson township is just

[solar smelt]

Also the burial mounds boss infinitely spawns enemies to power her soul eater

[silent leaf]

"get more dps" lmao

[silent leaf]

^

[solar smelt]

And the burial mounds one?

[silent leaf]

isnt

isnt burial mounds the soul eater

like legit i never heard of burial mounds

[tawdry olive]

Burial chamber boss is the soul eater boss

Crimson township is the haha dot fuck you boss

[silent leaf]

yea

crimson township is just get more dps lmao

[tawdry olive]

Yes they are notorious if you build is not quite there yet

[silent leaf]

you need dps to kill the clones

or just enough dps to burst it down

[tawdry olive]

The solution is really to finish the fight in 1 second

[silent leaf]

or just play sunder / aoe

and burst down the clones

[solar smelt]

Another issue im facing is that I can't see enemy attacks half the time because while the enemy atk animation plays the attack itself is invisible

Basically makes all of the pinnacle bossess impossible unless I have absurd levels of dmg

[silent leaf]

yea no idea on that one lmao

[solar smelt]

It's been a consistent issue for me all league and my internet is good

[tight plinth]

its the console nerf

i feel you brother/sister

[elder marlin]

U can tank almost everything the boss throw at u

[silent leaf]

league start balls of exach tank

[tight plinth]

i didnt see my attack/spell till i came back to pc

[solar smelt]

Trust me, poe is the one game I would happily play on computer if I could bring all of my stuff from ps over, but because Sony is a but about crossplay for some insane reason that's not feasible

[rancid sluice]

clearly the answer is just more dps and aoe and let the monsters sort themselves out under the cloud of mtx. thats the poe way

[tight plinth]

good thing i never bought anything on the ps account

i was playing with 4 tabs for a year

[proud gorge]

Crimson Township boss throws out a bunch of really high physical DoTs on you, and the clones are spawned at certain health threshholds and also inflict really strong physical DoTs

so if you burst down the boss, it spawns all the clones at once and then kills you with really strong physical DoTs

technically speaking the "correct" way to do it is to hit it down until it spawns a clone, kill the clone, then keep fighting the boss until the next clone threshhold

but in practice it usually just boils down to "kill the boss instantly"

because there's almost no way to mitigate that level of physical DoT

as for the Soul Eater boss, once again, the "correct" way to do the boss is to carefully attack just the boss, while not killing the adds, to prevent it from getting Soul Eater

but in practice usually just becomes muscling through the Soul Eater with really high DPS instead

[tight plinth]

i think intended might be more appropriate than correct

[solar smelt]

I hate gameplay design that leans towards "screw the player"

When it's not implemented well

[silent leaf]

its

more towards knowledge based

more than anything

[eternal hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/153573935013822464/1363109140594954360/FunDetected.webp

[rancid sluice]

soul eater screws minion builds good. but theres a bunch of mods out there that can be tough for specific builds. at least we arent crying ourselves to sleep from dealing with archnemesis mods

[silent leaf]

oh right

mods

[tawdry olive]

Random reflect mob go!

[eternal hill]

Soul eater screws everyone over

Cus haha funny 90% Dr if you didnt kill it in first hit

[silent leaf]

you can just portal out and fuck off

[gritty garnet]

you can even screw yourself over if you need to use vaal skills

[silent leaf]

and go back in a minute

[eternal hill]

You just open up a map at that point

[rancid sluice]

yeah thats the annoying thing really is they arent particualrly difficult a lot of the time just time consuming to kill

[proud gorge]

it's more just that our builds in PoE trend towards extremely wide reaching and unambiguous builds, that just hit everything on screen at the same time

and that's fine for most things, but in a game like PoE at least theoretically "kill this enemy first" would be a good mechanic

[crisp plinth]

Why

[rancid sluice]

theyve got the protection totems too. they play around with it a bit

[crisp plinth]

These games were always god simulators later on

And in the early game you have to focus anyway

[proud gorge]

mainly because it's a mechanic that can exist and is largely build-agnostic

if there's one thing PoE lacks, it's build-agnostic ways to build gameplay mechanics, due to how broad the scope of possible player abilities is

so pretty much every gameplay mechanic has to boil down to some variant of "stand here" or "don't stand here"

or "move from here to here"

theoretically things like "don't attack at this time" or "don't attack this enemy while attacking a different enemy" would be valid forms of gameplay mechanics

but in practice even that's too much for a lot of builds

if you put in a boss mechanic that required you to not attack while the enemy puts a highly telegraphed counter-stance up, the Wardloopers wouldn't be able to do it

[silent leaf]

slammers day 3 - 7:

you cant do certain map mods

by the day 3-7 you swap to CI and ignore every map mod in existance

[proud gorge]

if you put in a boss mechanic that required you to attack target A but not target B, then builds with full-screen AoEs wouldn't be able to do it

so unfortunately all the "don't attack x" mechanics just don't work in PoE, because way too many builds are just ridiculously broad and unambiguous

[tight plinth]

price you pay for killing stuff full screen vs tapping them 1by1

[ocean field]

gng is it worth running t16.5 instead of t16 for harvest

[proud gorge]

it would theoretically be an interesting gameplay mechanic, but in practice it just doesn't work with the game PoE is these days

[crisp plinth]

Map mods provide that for a reroll price though. Get immunity to X, ignore reflect or reroll, play with about xcom 99% hit levels of poison chance reductions etc

We had more of that on single mobs with reflect but that just felt like ass to play

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393762031546532010/1456964114051109042/PZRZXJVPXEEA8OUI3.gif

[elder marlin]

what r the odds of me being happy here?

[finite quail]

50/50

[elder marlin]

[proud gorge]

I mean, at the time, I think the biggest issue was just that it would pop up unexpectedly on random mobs

and the only way to figure that out was to stop and read the mods on every single rare enemy

[elder marlin]

i lost

[finite quail]

do it again

[elder marlin]

Lost the chaos dot, they r 1/1700

[finite quail]

do. it. again.

[split maple]

1 in 3

[fickle glen]

Focal Point or Wind Ward for my Dead Eye Ascendency?

[thick goblet]

focal point is pretty good usually

[fickle glen]

I trust you

[thick goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-lie-when-i-lie-i-lie-lie-dog-sunshine-gif-634915078327530593

[fickle glen]

WE NEED TRUST TO SURVIVE!

[split maple]

Synthing a jewel with gilded implicit is going to lose gilded right?

[jagged raven]

wow this has to be the easiest uber boss ever

fear something

[silent leaf]

you havent tried uber cortex

fucking pushover

[jagged raven]

ok ill test my build on him

[sacred bane]

Random question but why did they remove metamorph mechanics? Was there just too much and they wanted ultimatum to exist?

[zinc stump]

Reflect burrower appears you wake up on the beach at hillock

[jagged raven]

cortex is the most boring and ez as well

keeps spawning and spawning omg

[silent leaf]

yea its not even a boss