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cobalt estuary
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looks like max is x2.1, this is 2.05, hella lucky

hard cliff
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@opaque sphinx

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I overhauled the build

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we herald stackking now

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Found out I bought the wrong order cluster jewel

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gave up entirely on 2nd primordial bond

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😩😩😩😩

opaque sphinx
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F

meager ridge
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What does 'with this weapon' mean here exactly? the gems socketed into it?

opaque sphinx
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it means attack skills that use that weapon

spice pecan
hard cliff
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Cool dooger

meager ridge
normal hedge
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if it uses the weapon, sure

silent leaf
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^ spells can't

meager ridge
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Im trying to figure out whether a CWS build can use this dagger to do poison using elemental skills

silent leaf
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Isnt

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CWS all 3 are spells

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Pelting, wave, and DD

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4, bladefall

normal hedge
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they're not using the weapon to hit

meager ridge
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spells cant poison?

silent leaf
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Spells can poison

meager ridge
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the wiki says a hit is just anything that isnt DOT

normal hedge
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u're ignoring what 3 or 4 people told you

silent leaf
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Imma just let you fuck around and find out

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Yep

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Yea go ahead

silent leaf
normal hedge
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if you wanna play poison cws try searching fastering resentment setups

silent leaf
meager ridge
silent leaf
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Why not just use it

meager ridge
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not the easiest thing to get in ssf

normal hedge
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sure i'll give you one

silent leaf
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Oh

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Lmao

spice pecan
silent leaf
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Ssf gigachad

spice pecan
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casting a spell does not hit the target with your weapon

silent leaf
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PF

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CWS

spice pecan
silent leaf
normal hedge
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i would

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and i just did

meager ridge
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well I just learned spells with CWS cant poison

normal hedge
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they can

silent leaf
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It can

normal hedge
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jesus

silent leaf
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That's literally why

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Festering exist

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Lmao

meager ridge
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without the uber dagger

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is it possible

normal hedge
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even if you dont wanna inextricable, theres consuming dark

spice pecan
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chaos dot medium cluster

normal hedge
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dd of chain reaction `+ unearth + desecrate + despair + double consuming dark

silent leaf
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Guys

normal hedge
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pathfinder aswell

silent leaf
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GUYS

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Actually

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Can't the tattoo also do it

hard cliff
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call that the ass creed build

meager ridge
pseudo axle
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...huh, I wonder if ralakesh's impatience with frenzy charge mod might be a good temporary boot on this build

hard cliff
spice pecan
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you get giga reduced debuff duration

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so that you max out at like 2 stacks of any debuff

silent leaf
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Soul also has one

hard cliff
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I hope next league is a Risk of Rain 2 cross-over

silent leaf
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I hope it's league of legends crossover

ebon tendon
spice pecan
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give me summonable gups that split when they die

hard cliff
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Give me giant jellyfish boss

silent leaf
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AND GET FREE FAUSTUS PURCHASES

hard cliff
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Busted

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Better than scion

pseudo axle
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lmao, hit corrupted blood on an inspired learning, only 50c

hard cliff
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ebon tendon
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lucky guy

fickle glen
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Can poisonous concoction use hybrid flask to increase its effect?

gritty garnet
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yes but if anything you're decreasing its scaling

dusky urchin
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like

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like

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cls

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clrs

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clrscr

spice pecan
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what

elder marlin
junior kraken
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Can someone help confirm how blood barrier works with dissolution of flesh? Does that mean I can use life regen (well, blood barrier regen actually) to deal with dot, which is the biggest weakness of dissolution of flesh, as long as I stay full life?

gritty garnet
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you don't get blood barriers while reserving

elder marlin
junior kraken
fickle glen
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Is this a typo or is “all elemental resistance” include chaos resistance?

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I lose 23% chaos resistance when I take it off

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Sorry no it’s 20%

minor mantle
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It doesn't include chaos res?

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is something else

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maybe without the heup, u don't have enough attributes?

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for something else?

fickle glen
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Oh!

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🤦‍♂️ you’re right sorry

minor mantle
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lol :)

fickle glen
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Losing access to my gloves which gives the 20% when I take off the ring

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Derp

crimson spear
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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FOUND IT, LEVELED IT, AND GOT THE TEMPLE ALL BY MYSELF!

minor mantle
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gg

tawdry olive
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Always gamba

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Never stop gambling

crimson spear
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This is build defining for me.

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Previously I gave my Carrion Golems Minion Life so they wouldn't die. But now that I have a level 4 empower, I can use that instead of Minion Life as the +3 levels will still give them enough toughness to live, but also make them provide a larger buff to all my other minions.

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And this will get even better when I get an ideal convoking wand with an open prefix. I can bench craft "+2 level to socketed support gems" on it.

worldly wind
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just hit your current wand with an annul wx_smirk

crimson spear
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I have several nearly identical wands that I can alternate between, upgrading one while holding onto the other.

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Right now I'm just getting the final upgrades before making the grand push to level 100

elder marlin
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how hard is it to craft this?

steel light
ebon tendon
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Just some guy HO I saw in std

crimson spear
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Either way, it deserves to be in a museum

fickle glen
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What’s the cheapest way to blind enemies consistently?

worldly wind
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plenty of currency cheap ways, but expensive to your dps

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if you wanna just set it and forget it, slap blind support onto your golem

fickle glen
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I’ll look it up ty

solar smelt
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Why would I want strength on a wand character?

thick goblet
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str stacking or just enough to equip your gear?

solar smelt
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No I'm saying why do you want to str stack on a wand character

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Should have been more specific

thick goblet
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replica alberons was a good way to stack plenty of flat on wanders

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it used to be pretty popular in previous leagues

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since wanders didnt scale that hard

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this league added a lot more options

solar smelt
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Like what specifically?

thick goblet
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kboc with foulborn choir on heiro is insane scaling for example

elder marlin
solar smelt
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Looks like I'm reworking my golem character

elder marlin
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like any atk with kinetic in its name

solar smelt
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I'm using kinetic rain and I was wanting more dmg

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Crown with iron will&grip, with advancing fortress should do me well

elder marlin
solar smelt
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I wonder if replica alberons is cheap hmm

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It's a hiest exclusive and popular soo

elder marlin
solar smelt
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The iron fortress isn't a rare unique, but it has a stupid inflated price because of console economy and the foulborns ughs

elder marlin
solar smelt
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Ah

elder marlin
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since kinetic rain does not scale with melee dmg

solar smelt
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The lowest rep alberons is 5 div

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I'd have an easier time spaming bps to get it than buying off the market

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I'm dirt poor

elder marlin
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my condolences for console players

solar smelt
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So I wasn't really trying to play a str stacker but I have a really good cluster jewel for a wander and it's currently not being put to it's full potential

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It's not the best in slot cluster but trying to get one of those with the stats I have on my cluster is would be like 100s of div

elder marlin
solar smelt
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The jewel I have is wand dmg, with a 35% fracture, +4 all att, +10 str, and +4% with 12 passives

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That's why I say getting a better jewel is kinda min maxing a lot

split maple
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Due to iron Will keystone

elder marlin
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yea its bis sry

split maple
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Crown tho is useless for most wand skills (except kbolt of frag), since they already scale from spell dmg

solar smelt
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I thought it was lol

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Man I wish temporing and tailoring orbs had a stabilized

split maple
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Well go hit heist shrugR

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These are common af

solar smelt
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No I have the orbs, but there's no one buying on the market

split maple
elder marlin
solar smelt
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Nope

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The crown specifically says it will only apply the highest of similar buffs

split maple
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You want elevated warlord helmet for crit chance per strength instead

split maple
solar smelt
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The ps market is borked to high hell. For some stupid reason it cost 100 exalt to get a single chaos, but if you swap it there's no conversion rate for the two currencies

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Why would someone intentionally screw up the market ugh

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I hate price gouging

split maple
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I mean there is like what 5 ps players still playing so late in league

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That's not much of a market

solar smelt
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I get that it's a market, but it would be amazing if there was a standardized conversion rate for stuff

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There's a decent amount of ps players still playing

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Still got a month and a half to go before 2.8

split maple
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Idk at least on PC vast majority of players who matter for economy stop playing after like week3

elder marlin
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almost bis str stack helm

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prob doable in ssf

split maple
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Yea helmet aint too bad

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Issue is simplex

solar smelt
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Well no one has a ready supply of simplexes regardless of what platform you're on

elder marlin
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bis is 3 more strength

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fun

split maple
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Idk there are currently 11 nonbricked noncrafted available rn at PC insta buyout

solar smelt
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You spoiled brats T^T

silent leaf
split maple
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And 33 already crafted strstack ones

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And that's for sure late enough in league that most heisters already burned out

elder marlin
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incredible

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all insta buy btw

solar smelt
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I just want to stop stupid things like buying a tailoring orb for 280 chaos, but reverse the trade and you only get 80 chaos if you're selling a tailoring orb

split maple
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Well set your sale price to 270

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Whos preventing you from that

silent leaf
solar smelt
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No I mean if I say I want a tailoring orb for chaos it costs 280 chaos, but if I saw I want chaos for a tailoring orb I only get 80 chaos

split maple
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Yes in Faustus you can specify your own ratio

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You can ignore buy orders if they are ridiculus

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That folks want to buy for 80c doesn't mean you cannot try to sell for 280c

solar smelt
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No one in their right mind would buy my price if it's above the average

split maple
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No one is actually selling for 80c

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Folks are selling for 280c

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Your would be cheapest if you listed at 270

solar smelt
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They're selling for 280 and buying for 80, who's spending an extra 200 chaos for no reason?

split maple
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Like when you want to buy something at Faustus he shows you price sellers want, when you want to sell smh he shows you price buyers want

split maple
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That order exists don't mean it Will get fulfiled

split maple
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Sell at sell price not at buy price lol

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Otherwise you are scaming yourself

worldly bridge
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noob question

solar smelt
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I'm also insuring that the orb never sells by having it at the sell price.

worldly bridge
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i just started ssf and killed brutus but theres no crafting recipe?

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are bench crafts account wide???

solar smelt
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Yes

worldly bridge
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oh good to know

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i got all of them in trade already

solar smelt
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Same with the lab progress

split maple
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No

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They are league wide

solar smelt
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I meant league yeah lol

split maple
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Not shared between ssf and trade

worldly bridge
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huh

solar smelt
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They're not?

worldly bridge
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then where was the recipe

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its in the room with the lore right

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directly after brutus

split maple
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I think upper prison doesn't have one

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The only prison one I see in poedb is resistances in lab trial in Lower prison

tight plinth
spice pecan
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if you refund all asc points and then zone into lab, you get this

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fun fact

split maple
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you ending your bleed bow career?

clear flint
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Sorry to ask if it already has been asked, when ggg releases a patch note, how long after they push it live ?

spice pecan
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since i finally got my ralakesh boots

tranquil sedge
# solar smelt They're selling for 280 and buying for 80, who's spending an extra 200 chaos for...

there is ALWAYS a price difference between lowest sell and highest buy offer, that is the natural state of any market like this

however the difference can get greatly exaggerated at times, such as when the trade volume is super low, supply vastly outstrips demand, or (as is usually the case) when the playerbase has dwindled down for the league and people are calling it quits

then those offers are people trying to take advantage of the few remaining sellers who are desperate to offload before stuff goes into standard

tranquil sedge
clear flint
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yes sorry, wrong chan :p

split maple
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is there any way to search for timeless jewel (either with pob or calculator) such that one node HAS to be used and there is a bunch of nodes that CAN be used? basically i have 2 desirable elegant hubris notables, one notable in radius which i have to take due to pathing and a bunch of notables i can take for the second node

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eh that divine doesnt bring joy

split maple
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i can swap elegant hubris from block one to just frenzy on hit one and compensate by 2 block tattos actually, tho thats still kinda nasty to get - just 2480ish seeds have frenzy on the right node

elder marlin
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wait every node needs 3 point to path to

split maple
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i am taking arcanist dominion pathing to life nodes on the right

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every other node needs either impossible escape if i luck into it or is 3 point travel yea

elder marlin
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do u have a thread of hope?

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massive

split maple
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for what socket?

elder marlin
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light of meaning

split maple
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oh it hits shaman dominion huh

elder marlin
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enduring bond

split maple
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oh enduring bond yeah, shaman isnt in range

elder marlin
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less restriction for elegant number

split maple
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okay the first option leaves 1 legit seed so 1 in 158000 * 4 divine kek good idea tho

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yeah i will just tattoo 2 strength nodes with 1% attack block (enough to stay caped without elegant hubris) and cope on divining frenzy on hit on arcanist dominion

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looks to be around 1% divine result that if i didnt miscount, close enough to sane

opaque sphinx
elder marlin
# split maple okay the first option leaves 1 legit seed so 1 in 158000 * 4 divine <:kek:104502...

https://pobb.in/kiNjmNIJirPB i did a bit of tweaking, loss 10% life and 8% es but can fit in 2nd notable for elegant hubris at lv96

tawdry olive
# opaque sphinx

Would do dirty things in a back alley for this map
(It drops 20 alts)

split maple
elder marlin
split maple
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For the MoM version there is 1 seed that has appropriate placement of frenzy and block for that thread of hope trick

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Didn't check for PA but doubt it's better

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Anyways getting one of ~80 seeds that has frenzy on hit on arcanist dominion and tattooing 2 strength nodes is Just as good and a bit more doable

fringe jetty
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i wonder how fast 3.28 is gonna die, 3.27 was like a month and 12 days or so kek

umbral crag
# opaque sphinx

GGG: ground loot is fine, lets nerf it again 3.28 coz obviously people still playing poe1 after 1 month kek

elder marlin
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yea not great

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actually how abt impossible escape?

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yea thats even more rng

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scrap that

split maple
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didnt do uber maven yet, but yeah if i luck into MoM/PA one its great

elder marlin
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even eternal youth

split maple
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agnostic also, there is kinda a lot of nice options for that build

elder marlin
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circles

spice pecan
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throwin that tree in a bircle

opaque sphinx
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pls

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im boutta give up on this harbi shit

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i heard swapping one harb for nemeses was better

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doesnt seem to be really

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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flask suffix would be cheapest

lean pivot
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is patch live?

tranquil sedge
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alternatively how much are stormshrouds with the cb corrupt

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
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how important is the topaz flask suffix

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or the quicksilver

elder marlin
split maple
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time to start dc-ing clusters templarthumbsup

elder marlin
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leech suffix is abt 200 leech lost

tranquil sedge
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if u put cb on a topaz flask it won't self-sustain uptime

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you'll have to kill things

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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no
i mean that if u were tryna design ur ele resist flask to always be up even in like solo boss fights with no adds

elder marlin
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15 mv spd

tranquil sedge
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this would brick that

drowsy basalt
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@radiant lintel how pist are you right now

elder marlin
split maple
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unironically i would dc medium clusters there for cb immunity

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they look affordable

barren river
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also, why not a 35 impending doom shako?

elder marlin
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and doedre is literally free

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its even better than a lv31

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also im scaling poison so not sure if the flat would help that much

tranquil sedge
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70d pog

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if u happen to have that lying around kek

split maple
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i wonder if mythic-ing cb jewels is profitable on avg rn

tranquil sedge
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50d for a bound with shaper cdr

split maple
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1 in 10 to hit any viridian, 1.4% for each

tranquil sedge
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but only 16%

split maple
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and gonna bet cb immune ancestrals and unnaturals are profit, so you have basically ~4% chance to hit smh profitable

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
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is that 1% even important for your build

elder marlin
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not sure, thats what i have lying around from campain rush

tranquil sedge
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u can see if it'll work for you

elder marlin
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good new, i reduce mine and it didnt brick

tawdry olive
tranquil sedge
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lol

ocean field
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guys I am planning to pick up poe2 in a week

tawdry olive
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It’s so over

ocean field
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yeah I know

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league so bad gotta play poe2

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anyway

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what is the closest class option to trickster sodj in poe2

spice pecan
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uh

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nothing

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are there even any lightning based attacks with melee weapons in that game lol

proud gorge
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it just keeps going

frigid wedge
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i seem to have overlooked the fact that the second i set up my cwdt and get second lab im just gonna start dying to myself

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bc 200 attack speed is a lot of attack speed

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lmao

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"how cursed can we make our links"

spice pecan
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wtf is that lmao

frigid wedge
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which part is upsetting

spice pecan
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cwdt desecrate or the impale support

frigid wedge
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this is a necromancer

spice pecan
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O

frigid wedge
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second lab gets me corpse pact

spice pecan
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are you going to cwdt offering too

frigid wedge
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i just dont have the links to put in a second cwdt rn and automating desecrate gives way better uptime to generals cry

frigid wedge
spice pecan
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word, wasn't sure if ppl do cwdt or trigger gear for that type of stuff

frigid wedge
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the random impale support is for levelling it in case i dont wanna use boneshatter anymore

frigid wedge
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i hit myself anyway

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so cwdt triggers often

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its neat but im worried that trauma is just gonna kill me

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if i triple my as

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leech might be enough for now

ocean field
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not to mention they don't have harvest

spice pecan
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i mean maybe some lightning spear build idk

ocean field
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which is like the only league mechanic I do

frigid wedge
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lmao

spice pecan
frigid wedge
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u gotta suit the content u run to the build u play

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not make random builds and throw them at the same thing

ocean field
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sodj fits very well for harvest wdym

spice pecan
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there's like

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other mechanics in the game

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maybe not in poo2 but you know

ocean field
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yeah I don't play them tho

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the reason why I play harvest cause I don't want to collect like 50 different things and wait for days to sell it

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harvest lowkey the most easy one for me to farm and keep track of

frigid wedge
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smh

spice pecan
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i mean you do you i guess

frigid wedge
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i definitely dont run strats where i end up with 300 different items that i individually sell for chaos

ocean field
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yeah exactly

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I don't like that

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harvest very simple

spice pecan
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run expedition, sell logbooks, gamble with tujen

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ezpz

ocean field
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yeah I did want to do expedition

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but it seems it falls off value as league progresses

frigid wedge
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trickster glazer runs delve when

spice pecan
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nah delve has too many things to sell

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good fossils, good minion items, curse on hit rings early in leg

ocean field
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never tried delve so far

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is it the cart thing

spice pecan
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yeah

ocean field
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I did once I think

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too much time

barren river
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also, pls bring back self cast fross

spice pecan
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delve does become basically the hardest content in the game

ocean field
frigid wedge
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multiple times

ocean field
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yeah very ez

frigid wedge
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i literally explained node by node to berth how it is still doable

ocean field
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on another note what league mechanics do you guys suggest I try

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which does not have too many different things to collect

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and is simple and quick enough

barren river
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they ruined duration

bright viper
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Stuff like strongboxes and heist caches are just click button and click loot

zinc stump
frigid wedge
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.

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we had a big convo about it

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it is still doable

ocean field
frigid wedge
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it is slightly more effort than before

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and that's about it

umbral crag
barren river
ocean field
barren river
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but i heavily rely on soul eater and bladefall of smoker's teeth

frigid wedge
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u dont even need to get a 6l, 5l does the job fine

split maple
ocean field
barren river
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i sold that setup before i found out about hasty demise

ocean field
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6 link is better since u can put lightning warp in it

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to zoom around

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fast as fuck boi

frigid wedge
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hextouch lvl 1, curse lvl 1, 21 20 less dura, dusk ring, path to hasty demise, anoint window of opportunity swift affliction

frigid wedge
ocean field
barren river
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nvm i thought it was 6l fross

barren river
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i am not a fangirl of glove fross

frigid wedge
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u can use 6L u just then have to use an elevated less duration helmet

barren river
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and i used willclash

elder marlin
frigid wedge
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ew

elder marlin
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and turn the 6l into aura setup

frigid wedge
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ok either way

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it works

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if u want a 6l and willclash go put on a timeclasp as second ring or use the dura ammy

dusky urchin
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like

frigid wedge
elder marlin
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foul hh gives u 2 ring and a 6l, the offer is too good

frigid wedge
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foulborn hh requires there being tanky enough rare/unique mobs for it to ramp

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it doesnt give you souls on killing things

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its on hitting rare/unique and it decays FAST

elder marlin
frigid wedge
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it goes away

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it doesnt actually give soul eater

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u eat a soul

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so u dont sustain with random mobs

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u are required to hit rare or unique mobs

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i use norm and foulborn and on literally essence maps where every like 8 seconds im killing an essence i still lose like 15 stacks

barren river
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i ran discipline sublime

frigid wedge
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it isnt sustainable

frigid wedge
barren river
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i miss that type of setup

frigid wedge
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go play a power charge stacking slayer

spice pecan
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fucking cursed ass pathing

barren river
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it relied a bit too much on mercs

frigid wedge
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mythik

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would u like to see my pathing

elder marlin
spice pecan
spice pecan
barren river
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i want to see a different kind of pathing 👀

frigid wedge
spice pecan
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okay that one is really funny

frigid wedge
barren river
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wtf

spice pecan
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nice accuracy wheel Pogott

barren river
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this looks so scuffed

elder marlin
frigid wedge
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and melee splash bc dom blow has 0 clear before the bois

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the ironic thing is the dps isnt even bad

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but ig 9 minions and generals cry does that

barren river
frigid wedge
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its upsettingly effective

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
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in typical me fashion

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ok i be back later

worldly bridge
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i just realized that ailith dies every time you complete a breach hive

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i always thought she teleports at the last second...

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shes been dying over and over for as long as the hiveborn have been invading

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brutal

split maple
worldly bridge
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i have

golden moat
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temu fortress

hushed fern
#

Is there any list or information regarding which uniques are available through the genesis tree, for example can it drop boss uniques, or does it only provide world drop uniques?

opaque sphinx
#

surely

split maple
#

Would be weird if it was able to shit out nimis

barren river
elder marlin
whole bluff
#

Before every exalt, tell Ailith the truth for luck

#

May Chayula make your dreams more than dreams cuz he doesn't want you to have to tell Ailith again

#

Not that this works, but it's funny and adds immersion

#

Am I crazy if I play ignite soulrend of reaping?

#

Or I can't really do anything about crazy. I suppose the answer is yes either way. But is soulrend of reaping ignite a bad idea?

tranquil sedge
whole bluff
#

I guess maybe I can kill 500 uber shaper

#

Back when I did something of the sort in crucible, I dropped several purity of fire sublimes. They just weren't worth mirrors at the time

opaque sphinx
whole bluff
#

Damn

#

I assume that even though it's awesome, it's still not worth hinekoras locks?

#

3x BiS

tranquil sedge
#

dam
big boi jewels

opaque sphinx
#

foulborn or no whats the vote

zinc stump
opaque sphinx
#

es

zinc stump
#

Foulborn

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
umbral crag
whole bluff
#

Makes sense

umbral crag
whole bluff
#

Foulborn exalt definitely should go core

opaque sphinx
#

smoking a bowl and playing gl song

split maple
#

I rly appreciate fbl augs

#

Make getting that t1 crit on flask less pain

whole bluff
#

Even if they took inspiration from it and culled low tiers or filler affixes, foulborn exalts should be a main draw of breach imo

whole bluff
opaque sphinx
whole bluff
#

Glgl

umbral crag
#

All three of my 12p clusters are t2 es sadge

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
#

:O

split maple
#

Poggers

whole bluff
#

Is that t1?

#

Then that is 🔥

umbral crag
#

Pogs

tranquil sedge
#

thats a juicy jewel exile

whole bluff
#

Giga

opaque sphinx
whole bluff
#

Daaaamn

#

Now divine to perfection?

opaque sphinx
#

i have 10d lets see

#

its a 1/9

whole bluff
#

Ye

opaque sphinx
#

7d

whole bluff
#

Neat partyblob

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

like 30d

tranquil sedge
#

excluding divining?

opaque sphinx
#

maybe 40

tranquil sedge
#

damn

whole bluff
#

OP

opaque sphinx
#

inc diving maybe 50 top end i didnt keep 100% track

tranquil sedge
#

wat was the method

#

after frac

#

alt/aug to 2 mods, imprint* to regal and exalt/annul?

opaque sphinx
#

reforge def till 35 or int, reforge more likely on wrong int tier/25 eff, annul + ex slam

tranquil sedge
#

i see 😮

#

thats nice

whole bluff
#

Blue juice is nice

opaque sphinx
#

yeh is about 1d per 8k

whole bluff
#

I consume copious amounts for essence

opaque sphinx
#

not much more exp than chaos it and gives better odds for es

whole bluff
#

I buy it mostly at 50-98 per chaos, but I sell essence in chaos

umbral crag
#

50d is kinda high tho unless you were forgoing t2 es?

opaque sphinx
#

we don't talk about the 3 60d clusters i rolled over cuz i was stubborn

whole bluff
#

xD

umbral crag
#

Thats why kekw

opaque sphinx
#

we replace this one right

umbral crag
#

100%

opaque sphinx
#

or this

umbral crag
#

Unless ur other ones were worse

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

the other is maxed but +3 att instead of 4

umbral crag
#

Int bigger better

opaque sphinx
#

+60 int pog

umbral crag
#

Exactly why

opaque sphinx
#

honestly tho might be worth selling and keeping the bad one

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

100d can buy the edmg per int graft

#

prob much bigger upgrade

umbral crag
#

Potentially sure

opaque sphinx
#

or a abyss helmet

#

and mine kinda shit

umbral crag
#

Self craft

whole bluff
#

This math should work right:

  • 20 types of deafening essence
  • 30 blue per harvest flip
  • 2 good outcomes (spite for 5-8c, scorn for 7-13c)
  • the good outcomes average price of: (5+8+7+13)/4=8.25c
  • essence can't reroll to same so 19 outcomes
  • 2/19 on harvest flip to make 8.25c essence out of any other essence
  • Good outcomes math: 2×8.25=17.5c which is at worst price (1c:50blue) 875blue
  • 19 rolls for 19 outcomes average 570 blue
    ?
tranquil sedge
#

(there are essence flip calculators online btw, you just have to do the effort of pricing them correctly)

whole bluff
#

Ah, damn

tranquil sedge
#

pricing them (settling prices in calculator) is the effort part

whole bluff
#

Yeah

#

I just wanna know I have a margin on scorn and spite, cuz they're stable, expensive, and in demand

tranquil sedge
#

but if it helps u just need a close-enough value if ur okay not knowing ur exact div/hr

opaque sphinx
#

how uch a simplex

tranquil sedge
#

maybe sub 400d for a ready-made one?

#

guessing

opaque sphinx
#

f

umbral crag
#

Yup

tranquil sedge
# opaque sphinx f

clean splits like 160d or smth from wat i remember reading earlier in discord

umbral crag
#

What im saving up for rn

tranquil sedge
#

but if u just making one amulet?

#

buy it

opaque sphinx
#

y

tranquil sedge
#

if ur making influenced simplexes like attribute stacking just buy em right now instead of making
they made it aids to make that u wanna make many if ur tryna profit craft at all

#

in 3.26 i would have said make ur own its fun and worth attempting

opaque sphinx
#

shit

tranquil sedge
#

i did that for my str stacking simplex

#

but they removed that particular method

#

now its a bit more rng and expensive

#

earlier was just repeatedly beastlock + hover woke orb donors till success

#

now its imprinting and woke orbing and reforging/annuling

opaque sphinx
#

madge i dont think im getting 4k without one

#

3.6 atm

tranquil sedge
#

can we see a pob with ur new jewels equipped?

fathom crown
#

Yo guys,D4 player here, I just bought the game 3 days ago and went into it blind. How mandatory is following a build in this game, for now I just got in act 4, but I'm missing a lot of the currencies needed to trade and stuff. It's not easy to gear up

pulsar dune
#

trade is only relevant after acts really

tranquil sedge
#

its not balanced around requiring it

umbral crag
fathom crown
#

got it, guess im just bad

tranquil sedge
#

you also won't be doing a ton of crafting in campaign but there's a lot of ways to upgrade gear

whole bluff
fathom crown
#

Omg! Sorry!

pulsar dune
#

If you can figure out which stats are relevant for your build and which aren't and don't pick a really bad skill, you should be able to get reasonably far blind

tranquil sedge
#

oh yea good point lol

whole bluff
#

Npnp

pulsar dune
#

oh poe2 idk

tranquil sedge
fathom crown
#

my bad cheers guys

opaque sphinx
#

how do u custom config lucky dmg

whole bluff
#

Cheers

pulsar dune
#

copy the toe line

worldly wind
#

path 2 exile

split maple
opaque sphinx
elder marlin
opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
#

thats one heck of an amulet

#

nice

opaque sphinx
#

tyty

tranquil sedge
#

but also like

#

dude

#

ur spending this much on a build and still running 20/20 gems???

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
#

wtf lmao

#

21/20 the important stuff asap

#

and woke multi is what, 120-130d? i think? that should be doable too im assuming ur using multistrike for a reason

#

(why do u use multistrike with mamba?)

opaque sphinx
#

yeh its on the list

whole bluff
#

It's hit cuz mamba is OP simply

pulsar dune
#

multistrike is a good dps gem

opaque sphinx
#

we dont poison with mamba

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

its just dummy thicc hit dmg

split maple
whole bluff
#

But before you buy multistrike, check your attack speed breakpoints

tranquil sedge
#

21/20 viper strike is a 5.3% dps upgrade with that ONE gem level

#

seriously please buy new gems lol

elder marlin
opaque sphinx
#

aiight fair

opaque sphinx
#

i have spent 350d total on this build

whole bluff
#

By how I understand it, if you have 2 attacks per frame woke multi should be GIGA improvement. If you have 3 attacks per frame it should be a downgrade

tranquil sedge
#

and if u upgrade the other 4 support gems to 21/20 also you're almost at 10.3% dps increase

#

just from fixing ur main 6-link gems.

split maple
#

i rly love how you lucked out on that ring kek 350d build with multimirr ring

whole bluff
#

If you have 4 attacks per frame then 33% more attack speed

pulsar dune
#

someone needs to invest a game engine that doesn't have frame-dependent breakpoints.

whole bluff
#

Ye

elder marlin
worldly wind
#

vaper strike 🚬

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

already inf

#

is dead

pulsar dune
#

crafting yourself is too high variance

tranquil sedge
#

also not worth crafting at this point in the game if u just make 1

spice pecan
#

ventrua voided in the PL on a nimis map to sirus die beam SADGE

pulsar dune
#

f

whole bluff
#

Rip

tranquil sedge
#

thats it

umbral crag
opaque sphinx
#

nightblade i swap for woke aoe/gmp

#

if i swap to reave or Ls

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

valid

tranquil sedge
#

its gonna be around 10% dps on the table give or take upgrading ur main 6 link

whole bluff
tranquil sedge
#

you can also buy a 21/20 flesh and stone because you gain an extra 1% less damage taken from enemies in aura.

whole bluff
#

Is it 2 frames per non-woke multistrike at 49-50 or something?

opaque sphinx
whole bluff
#

APS that is

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
#

oh right ur not poisoning so even a 21/0 works

#

that makes it a lot cheaper

elder marlin
opaque sphinx
#

yh was 300c

split maple
opaque sphinx
#

mamba big gud dmg

#

look the DE, also no atk speed penalty

proud gorge
#

what the heck is up with this guy's shop? He's got a bunch of maps in here, a couple priced correctly, and the rest randomly priced massively above price for some reason

opaque sphinx
#

landmine

whole bluff
#

Mamba has the broken OP line of "if dual wielding, you basically just sum weapon dmg and double non weapon specific dmg to attacks"

tranquil sedge
#

minesweeper ^

#

-# either that or its just a typo lol

umbral crag
#

Do we take t3 int. Kinda sad tho

opaque sphinx
#

huge

whole bluff
#

So since all the dmg is from accuracy, mambas DE is twice the listed

opaque sphinx
#

settle for sure

proud gorge
#

it's only like 2-3 in the tab that are accurately priced

umbral crag
tranquil sedge
#

weird then

opaque sphinx
split maple
tranquil sedge
#

i misread ur initial message as the other way around

proud gorge
#

and it's all really weird prices too, like 146c, 98c, 102c, etc

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

the thing i want to do most with merchant is copy the reddit post i saw a while ago with the 'tips' tab LOL

umbral crag
split maple
#

tradies smh my head

spice pecan
#

im finally #1 in something

opaque sphinx
#

yeah ok not that one

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
#

oh

proud gorge
#

what the heck, is this a bot or something? I didn't take a screenshot of the previous guy, but he also had this exact hideout, with an almost identical shop tab full of randomly priced maps, plus a random massively overpriced Inpulsa's

opaque sphinx
#

oh not that one either

proud gorge
#

I think this might genuinely be a bot

tranquil sedge
#

lmao

tranquil sedge
pulsar dune
#

do you need vaal reave?

tranquil sedge
#

^

split maple
#

huh them odds do be better than i would guess

#

t5 int to unravel later kek

opaque sphinx
#

yes

tranquil sedge
#

ur prices are high coz of vaal part

opaque sphinx
#

vaal reave adds 4 max stages

#

200% more aoe

umbral crag
tranquil sedge
#

i see

proud gorge
#

literally exactly identical hideout, very similar shop tab but with different randomly massively overpriced maps, and I can hear them just running maps in the background while I hang around

opaque sphinx
#

u can prob drop vaal reave and use pulverize with woke aoe

proud gorge
#

also Tane in the hideout for some reason

opaque sphinx
#

but i didnt build all this atk speed to lower it

tranquil sedge
#

u can always snag the reave and ls gems later if u have to but at least the support gems & flesh&stone can be upgraded for now

split maple
tranquil sedge
#

u can beeline for simplex and woke multi next

opaque sphinx
#

think i do helm before them

#

maybe boots

umbral crag
#

Make t1 int% and it's 5 attempts

#

HAHA

split maple
#

removing sanctified is 1 in 16?

#

its t2+

umbral crag
#

Wait

#

How

#

R u simulating on double influenced base

split maple
#

idk feels bugged, droping int to any tier lowers odds to 13

proud gorge
#

like, what is this? They have three random kind of useful body armours, uncorrupted, but priced for tens of divines for seemingly no reason

umbral crag
#

Wait no im the dunb one kek

split maple
#

oh lol coz i changed %int to t1

proud gorge
#

and then a single correctly priced Kaom's Heart

opaque sphinx
#

do i just drop fortify and get a tattoo or two

split maple
#

1 in 7 for any tier of flat and %

opaque sphinx
#

i kinda like having it for feared n shit, feels weird to sack fort for dps when i have 1b

proud gorge
#

it's like, for every one correctly priced item they have, they have three massively overpriced items in the tab as well

#

for some reason

opaque sphinx
#

fuckit we keep

umbral crag
#

Yeye im the dumb one

tranquil sedge
#

unless ur playing for page1 rankings on poe ninja or smth

opaque sphinx
#

nah thats many mirrors off

#

we upgraded mamba/fortify/volatility/multi to 21/20

#

now flesh

tranquil sedge
#

o7

opaque sphinx
#

ngl thought it'd cost more

whole bluff
#
  • Frame time = 0.033s
  • Attack speed = ~ 40 APS
  • Attack time = ~ 0.025s
  • Normal multistrike: 3×0.025s=0.075s->0.099s
  • Woke multistrike: 4×0.025=0.1s -> get tiny bit higher APS ->0.099s
    ?
opaque sphinx
#

about 1000d

whole bluff
#

So on your specific gear lvl, get it ASAP?

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

1000c sorry

#

for the gems

tranquil sedge
#

yea its easy to overlook em

proud gorge
#

hitting page 1 of poe.ninja is really easy actually, just play a build that less than 100 people are playing

#

thus allowing you to hit page 1 of that build by default

tranquil sedge
#

in 3.26 i think i spent 15d on a 21/23 msoz and it was a 3% upgrade over a 21/20 once i was at endgame lol

tranquil sedge
split maple
bright viper
#

Just put annihilating light on yourself

#

Fight bad build with bad build

whole bluff
#

I wanna use the rule of "when you're intentionally wrong on the internet" to make someone confirm woke multi is absurdly big upgrade here

#

But idk how animations and frames work

steel light
#

by the time u're done, it's a standard character kek

scarlet jacinth
#

Post a question, swap accounts and post the wrong answer. watch someone correct it (very effective on github)

steel light
#

don't reveal hack please UHM

split maple
scarlet jacinth
#

Sounds familiar

opaque sphinx
#

tks tree

umbral crag
#

Pogging

opaque sphinx
#

surely +4 level

#

could be worse

steel light
#

grafts are such a shit mech, can't be easily modded, can't be easily crafted as you want it to be, have to rely on trade hoping someone have a combination that you want UHM

#

<@&174997701513969665>

winter kelp
#

ty

proud gorge
#

wack, I just spawned an in-map Blight encounter in a T16 containing two lanes and one tower build spot

steel light
#

server doesn't do price check UHM

proud gorge
#

the rare "no tower challenge" Blight encounter I guess

hallow scroll
#

ohh any crafting people i can talk to?

tranquil sedge
umbral crag
opaque sphinx
split maple
opaque sphinx
#

f

umbral crag
#

LOL

umbral crag
hallow scroll
opaque sphinx
split maple
# umbral crag ^

The 4 hollows in my stash are now looking at me kinda scared 😄

umbral crag
#

Slammed the t1 int% HAHA

split maple
#

holy luck

scarlet jacinth
#

Soo 4 fossils = 2 of em.. yes yes

umbral crag
barren river
scarlet jacinth
#

3.28 patchnotes

Nerfed kb by 80% reason: Spite

hoary scarab
#

the best reason

frigid wedge
#

icl the most ggg way to nerf kb would be to just make all the mtx more aggressively bright

gritty epoch
#

Kb of the sun mtx

scarlet jacinth
#

Kb mtx's updated, all instances of explosions split into 50 different renders for better graphics

grizzled lily
#

kb isnt even that good dawg

#

its good at the end of your investment but if you just go in blind

#

kb is slightly better than bows

karmic gust
#

basically all wand builds are still 0dps except maybe like kboc sometimes (and fussilade but that one is too awkward to build and doesnt rly scale because of that)

hoary scarab
#

KB no longer bounces of walls

#

ez fix

scarlet jacinth
#

I'm meanwhile dreading an animate weapon nerf

spice pecan
#

what an odd one to want nerfed

scarlet jacinth
#

No, i do NOT want it nerfed

spice pecan
#

oh lmao

grizzled lily
#

they got some nice changes tho

spice pecan
#

i read that as "dreaming"

#

i should go to bed

scarlet jacinth
#

Yea

grizzled lily
#

animate and spectres

#

next league ill make a pbrand

#

with both

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
#

considering u can summon self reflected eblades and then just

#

go back to ur normal weapon

scarlet jacinth
#

Yea.. that might see changes

frigid wedge
#

how is ur build actually going btw

#

i saw it sorta yesterday

hallow egret
#

guys question, why some builds have that green arrow and some that red one

spice pecan
#

green arrow means the play rate is going up

#

red arrow means the play rate is going down

hallow egret
#

oh oh

#

also big dumb quetion, i asked this before on poe2 but
im planning to play standard, say, for example if i take too much time playing and they nerf a skill or something, that wont affect me on standard right? unless the league goes core?

#

idk what to play and reap seems a lil fun

pulsar dune
#

It will affect you immediately

hallow egret
#

rip

spice pecan
#

specifically if it's a skill change, yes, it will affect you immediately

#

if it's an item change, you will keep the version of the item you had

#

which is why "legacy" items exist

spice pecan
#

okay well, most of the time but yeah

split maple
#

thats why the change in usage

hallow egret
#

i just wanna play standard bc i play many other games and i always run out of time on leagues, i just play when i feel like to and im a slow player

pulsar dune
#

Yea, POE doesn't lend itself too well to that sort of playstyle

#

It's more of a 2 week phase kinda game.

hallow egret
#

sadge

#

i wanted to explore the endgame bosses which i barely did before

spice pecan
#

i mean you can still just make your character in the league, and continue to play it after it gets migrated to standard

#

its just hard to get items in standard

split maple
#

if nothing else for elementalist standard is a bit sadge until early march

#

since no herald of hive

spice pecan
#

yeah, defs want to start in league if you want any of the foulborn items/new breach uniques like the herald of the hive ring

hallow egret
#

hmmm

spice pecan
#

they might get very pricy in standard after the league ends

#

depending on whether they go core or not

hallow egret
#

any fun build recomendations? i like traps but i played it 2 or 3 times already
i like ice builds

hoary scarab
#

play ice trap assassin

spice pecan
#

zero hp bosser, that one

split maple
#

you prolly want some generalist build that can be ok at most content right?

hallow egret
#

ig so yea, and i dont like just having 1 skill ig, i like pressing many buttons

hallow egret
pulsar dune
#

Cold dot

spice pecan
pulsar dune
#

It's not the best at bossing, but it should be fine enough

#

Exsang does have the annoying gem swap on low budget

spice pecan
#

yeah, exsang mines typically goes 100% cold

hallow egret
#

hmm hm

pulsar dune
#

Could go like EoW mines, if you lock in on positioning it should blow up endgame bosses well

#

And it's a projectile spam build so it's not like it'll be too weak in maps

spice pecan
#

they do want a multi button build tho

hallow egret
pulsar dune
#

On low budget you definitely have to swap for pinnacles

pulsar dune
spice pecan
#

and some juiced map bosses too

split maple
#

equipment slots look sane

#

that phys cluster is a tad scary but shouldnt be issue in trade

pulsar dune
#

Doctrine could be pricey, RF gamers use it

split maple
#

oh its allright, just 2div in league

#

ig enough people spaming uber cortex

pulsar dune
#

It's not too rare even

split maple
#

5% its common enough in trade yea

#

just rare enough to make me feel traumatized 😄

#

funny how you can see at what point most rf players swaped to it on price graph

barren river
#

1%

tawdry olive
split maple
#

wiki says 5

tawdry olive
#

in trade at least

barren river
#

And uber cortex is trash

tawdry olive
#

in SSF you cry

split maple
#

or did they mess with drops again?

barren river
#

I remembered it being 1%

split maple
#

3.26 messed up boss and uber drops a tad

#

its 20% of es on build

#

but yeah prolly skipable, just gonna make it a tad more squish, not functionally crucial

pulsar dune
#

oh lethe shade with arkhon's tools is clever

#

oh nvm it's not even running winterweave

tawdry olive
#

aight i just realized i have a question...
how the fuck do you make a campaign loot filter

#

like.. i know technically how to do it through filterblade

#

but like... the considerations are so alien compared to end game tweaking uber stritc

split maple
#

show axe, show belt, show whetstone templarthumbsup done

gritty epoch
#

I just pick regular or none

tawdry olive
split maple
#

very strict already has campaign section

#

so i just grab a fresh copy of it on legstart

grizzled lily